Demon 170 Owners Mad At Cheaply Made 200k Car.
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- In today's video we talk about demon 170 Owners having buyers remorse over their massive purchases on the demon 170.
lf you have a demon 170 do you regret the purchase? What issues have you had? 
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It’s not a 200k car. It’s a 40k with 40k of performance goodies. And that is being generous.
Exactly
$200k for a dodge is crazy and unbelievable gullible
Yikes, sounds like the Demons are living up to their name and not in a good way. Now I know why the Demon badge looks so happy, he's laughing his ass off to anyone that bought one.
Selling a 80k car for almost 200k is straight robbery.
No, you're wrong. It falls on the Idiot's that pays that much no one else. People blame the dealers. No one forced these people's to buy it. Dealerships asked for the price fools paid it. Just like anyone sells a house for more, what's it's worth, fools will buy.
They're as mad as Demons 👿
Hidden gem- the length of your video is the advertised HP of a 2018 Hellcat. Well done
Don’t know if coincidence or not, but that is funny
Dodge
Sounds more like advice than a car brand 😅
I feel for the Demon owners. I really do. This should have been a better experience for them.
I bought a new Charger R/T last year. Got it for about 10% below msrp. No buyers remorse here.
It ain't no Demon 170, but its fun to drive and I love it.
I don’t. Most of them are flippers
Between this and the CyberTruck…
used cars for under $12,000 aren’t looking bad.
You just explained the very reason I never bought any Dodge product, and today, I feel the same way I felt for 68 years. They couldn't give me one or pay me to drive one.
Over the last 50 Years, Dodge developed and sold some of the finest vehicles in the world.
I bought an 18 buyback charger taking a gamble and didn't notice any squeaking on the test drive. After rolling around in it I noticed squeaking. Then I saw your videos about these body issues and it immediately became apparent to me why the car was bought back. Dodge turned it around and resold without fixing the body squeak at all. And to make matters worse the trans started acting up before it was even due for its first fluid change. Doesn't want to shift, slipping on take off and between gears while rolling down the road. Changed the fluid thinking it was acting up because it was getting close to 50k miles when the fluid is due to change. Nope, does it even worse now. Smh.
How did Stellantis screw up this car that bad? Nobody should buy this car.
Because it’s Stellantis
Engine Block Porosity, What Is It? The definition of porosity is: any void or hole found in a casting. These voids can be caused by gases and contaminants present during the casting process and typically occur near the outer parts, or at the top of a casting.
My Northstar seemed to be porous too, it oozed oil from every gasket. Two cans of bar leaks slightly helped. The solution was simple. bum cardboard boxes from Publix [already flattened for you!] and slide them under the engine.
Yes, ignoring it seems vastly preferable, but engine oil dissolves asphalt driveways very quickly.
Too bad these engines pulled strong like a big block and sipped fuel like a six, it's a shame GM didn't build them right...
My 22 RE and 17 Scat have been mostly trouble free. Never understood folks jumping on the last call bandwagon knowing (or should have known) the quality would be garbage. If Dodge goes under there won't be any parts nor service for the Demons and the other Special Edition Cars. You'll be on your own. Why are folks still paying over MSRP for this albatross? Keep it coming TK - eventually these folks will get the message.
Racer X loves his Demon, BLOWN ENGINE and all. He's looking forward to racing his new motor.
Carvana sent me info on a Tesla Model S Plaid, 11k miles for UNDER 70k. Way before the Dodge guy figures out how to launch, the Plaid will be through the lights. 😊
If you paid 100k for a DODGE, you deserve buyers remorse!
I’m a OG 2018 Demon owner. The car was built right and lived up to all my expectations.
The D170 was bad from the get go!
I went to the unveiling in Vegas and “something didn’t feel right” about the car, 1000s of dealers and the entire purchasing process of the D170.
I’m soooooo glad I passed on the 2023.
Your Demon 170 videos are the best videos on youtube. Keep'em comin
Whoever pays 180,000 for a dodge if it’s not Viper has lost there damn minds.
Stellantis probably doesn't care. Stellantis is just going to dump the US auto market. Once you buy a Stellantis product then it is your headache.
yes, my friend had his 6.2 Ram engine replaced at 2000 miles because of a porous engine block because it kept dripping oil out of the rear of the block where there were plugs in it. First, they replaced the plugs, no fix. Then they put a sealant on the plugs and tried again, no fix and then replaced the engine. Can't say what is happening now as he got rid of it after the new engine was put in. The oil leak showed it self like a bad rear main seal. Oil drops on the rear bellhousing where it was connected to the transmission and on the exhaust pipe running next to the engine. He was told by the service department for Dodge that there was a bad run of 6.2 blocks from the foundry. He did not question it too much, he just wanted a truck to pull his very large and heavy camper.
That steering wheel turn "pop" is something I've had on my 2018 Charger GT plus AWD. Intermittent, but nothing has come from it. (knock on wood) lol
The whole "Last Call" and other marketing 'Red eye', 'Scatpack', 'Demon' versions all stinks of 1000 ways to milk a buyer. Add in Stellantis' reputation for junk quality and it was a blatant cash grab from the start. I am just stunned at the lack of financial education where people paid 200k over sticker for a depreciating asset. TK should do a "Fundamentals of Finance" channel or free course for Service personnel.
Per the weeping engines it is possible that the mix for the cast iron pour was not up to specs, considering that cast iron and cast aluminum have been used for a over a century .
Maybe the machining of the sealing areas for gaskets might be suspect or bad gaskets. It never ends!😎
And the porosity problem isn’t fixed with a replacement if the same process was used to make the replacement. Yikes…
Its like in that movie Gung Ho when they were try to produce cars as fast as possible and they didn't put in windshields and engines n shit. That's the cars they have 😂.
My uncle who is Master mechanic and had certs for most every brand back in 80s and 90s. He could do warranty work on almost anything out their. One was Rolls Royce. He had one come in the was needing oil regularly. He called the factory over seas to find out what he could do for the customer. He was told when the car needs oil every 500 miles they would warranty it. Now he was a Master Mechanic for like 15 or 20 brands and none had that kind of usage. In fact s car using s quart of oil every thousand miles was considered a bad motor. Not for Rolls, they called it controlled seepage. You got to he kidding. But they said it was called controlled seepage and it had to be a quart every 500 miles.
So are these Dodge like Rolls and have Controlled Seepage??? My butt!!!
Just thought you might need a good laugh.
That's why the 2018 demon will always hold their value. They did 5000 passes to prove durability before releasing it to the public. They took their time designing and building it. It is some machine!
Buy the nicest Viper you can find and put a whole bunch of money back in your pocket. You'll have a car that actually may develop real collector value too.
People have to realize that Dodge is not making the build quality better on these cars. They are simply upping the horsepower on these cars and pushing them off the assembly line. They don’t care about making a better interior or ensuring they all operate correctly before sending them out. All they want is your money at the end of the day.
The only time I heard about porous engine blocks was from Volvo back in the early nineties. Actually after a few years Volvo found the cause of the coolant leaks in their 2.9 liter aluminum Inline six blocks. Funny thing it only happened after a number of years, and Volvo determined that the owners were using a non approved coolant. This coolant was actually eating away the aluminum around the thinner area of the water jacket. They ended up replacing a number of engines before realizing what was causing the issue. Dealer maintained cars didn't have any issues only those that had their coolant replaced by the owner or a local shop.
Hello TK - I live in Henderson and own two Demons. I drive one and store one. I enjoy your channel and would be happy to share fist hand experiences - Cheers.
That's awesome. I'm always around town
We are too blame. We are the ones paying these prizes. Don't buy them . They offered me a hellcat from another "slow dealership" came there at 70000. They told me they were throwing another 10 on it. I didn't like it, guess what I didn't buy it. I've had 4 challengers. 1 scat pack wb,1 scat pack shaker, 1 rt, 1sxt. I've had zero issues with any. These are all 21 and 23 models. Who needs a 1000+ hp anyway. If you race build a car.
I’ve owned 2 Scat Packs, 2 HCs, 1 Redeye and now a Demon….All have been well built unlike the Mustangs I’ve owned. I have a 24 GT that has numerous rattles, paint issues and squeaky front seats. Guess I should feel lucky the Dodges I’ve bought have had only minor problems.
I'm sorry but don't feel bad for any demon 170 owner that paid over msrp....it just shows what type of people will pay this amount for any vehicle especially a dodge product that was rushed in the build.....yes I've actually seen a block that would seap oil through the block on a vw model many years ago.
2023's are under warranty. For a 100-200K car, some dealerships should be catching hell.
All other defects aside, the windshield crack is a sign of a defect of the highest magnitude. If I were Stellantis I’d be looking into the cause of that 24/7/365 until it is discovered, I wouldn’t replace one windshield until it’s found. Gotta be a welding or structural deficiency of some sort, and that is some serious, potentially litigious stuff, if not addressed.
Feel sorry for anyone who’s into a 2023 car at a retail price. They should be drastically, drastically reduced to wholesale levels at this point. With a disclaimer in addition to the warranty: buy at your own risk, use caution during operation. What other shortcuts have NOT been discovered yet?
The issues are fairly typical of vehicles built by Peugeot and Fiat. Which is why I’ve never bought a car from either company.
These issues aren’t acceptable on a $40k car. Certainly not on an $80k car. That anybody would expect the quality to magically improve just because the price increased, is just crazy.
The Dodge Brothers are laughing all the way to the bank...
But they’re dead and have been for years and years and years and years. did I say years?
They’re Pissed
I’m glad I put the brakes on buying one of these cars.
Back in 2006 I bought a brand new Honda Civic. It had a porous engine block but it was. The coolant was seeping into the oil. They extended the warranty
I’m renaming your channel “TK says Fuck Demon” 😅 keep it coming baby!
The Dodge Demon is a $70,000 car TOPS.
Being limited edition doesn't change the fact that it's a 10 year+ old Challenger with LESS in it than a Challenger Hellcat.
It will NEVER age like a classic car. It's dealer dependent and can't be easily repaired later down the road.
I would NEVER pay $200,000 for one of these things.
The death of dodge is entertaining.
Didn't the CEO just get a raise? Somebody's got to pay for it
That is cast porosity. When too high oil and engine compression will leak out into water jackets etc.
Demon owners are angry that they overpaid for the cars the crap part is an excuse afterall even Toyota&Honda have issues too.
I guess I feel as bad for the demon 170 "investors" as I did for the video card scalpers that lost money when that bubble burst.
These things are cars, they're meant to be driven... despite the crap build quality of these dodges. They're not baseball cards.
Like the original Viper. Cheap plastic interior. It was all about the engine, nothing else. But anyone paying 200 or even 100 for an American car is insane and deserves misery.
+1 on the windshield crack from the A pillar
Do you know why the late 60s and early 70s MOPARS especially with hemis and 340s are so valuable now? Because they barely made it off the assembly line. They were built horribly and did not last and were junked at a high rate which took rare cares and made them even rare which is why they approach $1 million so frequently. This is PAR for the course with Chrysler Dodge or whatever you want to call them today.
That's not true.
My '70 RT Chally was poorly built, but it had a lifetime rust warranty. No matter how many panels you replace, the rust will be with you forever. My long gone uncle's mid 50's Plymouth Savoy rusted so badly that one side of the body completely separated from the frame. Back then, they built reliable powertrains though.
So the guy spends 150-200K on a Demon w/ a ton of problems, sells it and then rewards the same company by purchasing another one of their cars? Holy short bus Batman!
Like paying $1000 for a $200 shoe and then mad because it’s not real leather.😊
Back in 1999/2000, I declined the chance to buy a very limited 1999 Excelsior-Henderson motorcycle. Within 30 days, someone pulled in front of me and destroyed my old college car. I used the insurance money to buy a SENSIBLE car (00-02 plastic Saturn) and I never regretted my practical choice.
Which one is worth more today?
Im just glad I am too stuborn and cheap to pay over msrp...otherwise I would have bought one.....
I am now looking at buying a used 21 or older widebody redeye...and just use it for a weekend race car........
Porous engine block?? Sounds like a problem the Ford Mustang ii had. Dealers were giving out thicker oil to customers to combat the problem.;LOL Bad casting of block was the culprit. LOL
They knew what they were buying.😊
So much for being collectible. You want a quality interior don't look to the big 3. Ford probably has the best interior but I just can't deal with all that underhood plastic which is becoming commonplace for all manufacturers. These cars were overpriced and speculated into crazy by the dealers. 200k for a Dodge is nuts. Their trucks are way overpriced too and that is why they are not selling.
Rather have a red eye and 10k in mods and reliable parts
I dont feel bad for fools who gladly paid over sticker, sometimes double for a 170 and act mad because quality is bad. They could even build a dart and you expect greatness for 200k?😂
Never pay over MSRP folks😆
For 200k you are better off buying a viper. Those will at least appreciate over time than a 170 Demon
I saw exactly what was coming when they started selling ramdom sticker packages for 30K. If i owned that car id tear the whole thing down to the frame and panel bond it myself, i stare at panel bonded chassis 10 hrs a day id have no problem spotting if something wasn't done right.
I am racing the piss out of mine. See you on HRPT.
RacerX had his engine blow up almost immediately so0o0o0o... the car is pos..
It’s dodge challenger what did they expect 😝 dodge got their money
Charger is a piece of crap as well. Not like a charger is any better than a demon when it comes to quality. All of the products dodge males are sub-par. Don’t be shocked just because you stupidly pay a lot for them. If you want quality spend that money on a Porsche.
Anyone paid that much for a 170 I got swamp land for sale cheap
Hondas are highly overrated, grossly overpriced junk. But, at least the ones made in Ohio have much , much better quality than cpdr.
both, however, used takata grenades, err, air bags.🙄😤👎
Demon 170 owners should not feel bad because all Dodge vehicles always been made poor, cheap in quality. For god’s sake it’s a Dodge worst than Ford and Chevy.
Lol! Overpay for a Dodge and complain about build.😂
a demon is just narrow body rt or scatpack with upgraded engine lol the real flag-ship engine is hellephant 2.0 1200 hp mopar lol at demon 170 with govner and 149mph lol 220 mph and 1200 hp a demon is trash. i have 2 hellephants beat any demon any day.
200k for a Dodge, you get what you deserve. Dodge has always sucked.
except when they sold rebadged Mitsubishi....92 Colt sedan was way better than any domestic, uaw made, Cheysler corp. car..💯🤔🤫
Demons made by gremlins
Hahaha demon owners made a boo boo.
The Demon 170 is overrated!!
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