Traditional Catholicism on the rise?

[@thefrancotv]

Before you read the cancer of some of the comments below, please make sure to read this article from catholic.com or any other question you have can be searched in that same website. Make sure to be educated before talking:
www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility

[@UltriLeginaXI]

Technically I'm a lutheran, but I don't really find myself in conflict with anything the Catholic Church teaches apart from the intercessory of the saints/Mary, as well as Papal infallibility. The Pope may be head of the Catholic institution but at the end of the day he's a man, and any man can make errors. I believe Christ is the head of the church and man's intercessor to God the Father.

[@bradykenny5485]

A council just makes so much more sense than a single pope in matters of doctrine

[@G-MIP]

You need a single authority to rule when there’s disagreements.

[@eldermillennial8330]

@@G-MIP
No, you simply don’t finalize the council. All valid ecumenical councils had supermajorities who came to their decision without any coercion.

[@robertluechtefeld5017]

Why? Truth is not decided by consensus, or a simple majority, or a 2/3 majority or even a unanimous vote. Truth is truth if everyone denies it, and a lie is a lie if everyone accepts it as truth. There has to be an authority in matters of faith and morals. If there is no single authority, then we end up with 40000 different congregations.

[@Oprinca_Alexandru]

​@G-MIP you don't what? Where does it say we need a pope in the Biblie? The pope didn't exist till the skism of 1054 why add the papalism?

[@nionashborn7626]

Good news, we have councils too

[@SalveRegina8]

Amen! God bless you!

[@AnOpinionatedMan]

Too bad theres a lot of "traditional" Catholics who also choose themselves

[@childofGod717]

Wow I’ve never looked at it this way! Thank you so much and God bless you 🙏

[@sethw7399]

Thanks for the content!

[@williamstein5125]

Either submit to God, or submit to the pope. I chose God. Blaming protestants much make you feel better but it won’t fix what’s happening in the catholic church.

[@dubndrapwilwork]

cope. the Romans schismed from the real Orthodox Catholic Church

[@d1burns]

Amen, amen I say to you.

[@IMicah94]

Hogwash you are morally obligated to disagree with the pope on matters of conscience

[@larrycraig9221]

There is so much wrong with this speech! Lovingly, I pray you will find the truth before it's too late.

[@davyrantucci]

Yes we need to weigh what the Pope says carefully, and give it consideration. Unless something is proclaimed Ex Cathedra, we do have a choice in many matters. We are not in a cult with a leader that we must obey any and everything. With that being said, I also like to look at what the Pope actually states before I go and click on commentaries from others. Things may be taken out of context or exaggerated at times. This Pope does seem to have some views or statements that are on the border line of our beliefs…it’s a fine line to walk.

[@onlyicedcrybaby7297]

Its not borderline anything. It's completely different. I can read. No where does it say in 2024 you can bless gay marriage in the church. Which book ? Chapter ? Verse? Where. Which version ? Catholics aren't Christians. You are a Catholic.

[@davyrantucci]

@@onlyicedcrybaby7297 technically he is trying to get around it by saying blessings are for individuals and not blessing the couple…that’s what borderline means. Priests have always been able to bless anyone, even Non Catholics. The Document for the blessings state that its blessing the individuals and not the union, however, when two come up together outwardly it will cause scandal as it looks like it’s blessing the Union. So he definitely is walking that fine line. But the gates of Hell won’t prevail against us. I just pray for him and that others are not swayed by his decisions into sin, however the ultimate judgment lies with God. I fear the next Pope will be worse. We don’t deserve a good one.

[@IMicah94]

@@onlyicedcrybaby7297 I'm not. Just saying there is some freedom of conscience in Catholic theology.

[@godzilla2052]

The heretic

[@jazrel21]

I submit to God through relationship with Jesus Christ, not to religion.

[@eldermillennial8330]

Why do you take for granted the false post-enlightenment definition of “religion”?
I prefer Chesterton’s, “Religion is the process in how man relates to the universe & politics is how we relate to one another”.
Now, the Triune God is beyond the universe, but His Will & Angels do keep it in order, so it is not wrong to relate to God through the universe, in a balanced way. To reject that is to fall into a soft Gnosticism .

[@jazrel21]

@@eldermillennial8330 did I say I reject religion? No, right? I know it is a system of belief and it is how we run things through the lens of faith. My point is, I don't find my identity in religion, it's in Christ alone, and that is through a genuine relationship with Him. A lot of of people put pride within their religion and obliviously neglect a true relationship with the Lord. Which is why Christ had more issues with the Pharisees(which by the way are the teachers of the Law and are supposed to be closer to God and to be His representatives to His people) than the common people which were sinners, and most are even despised by the people esp the religious ones.

[@henrylimnyuy3195]

Who is teaching you about religion ? He needs to refund your money

[@jazrel21]

@@henrylimnyuy3195 I read the bible for myself with the revelation and guidance of the Holy Spirit. I weigh every other teaching that I hear regarding the bible and let the bible interpret itself. Y'all really showing to be religious aren't you? Lol

[@fatimav441]

You meant tailored beliefs

[@Julian96760]

I'm having a lot of trouble as a Catholic reading the council of Nicea. Canon 4 seems to indicate orthodoxy, and certainly not the papacy. Can anyone help me?

[@G-MIP]

Matthew 16:18

[@Julian96760]

@@G-MIP yeah but I need an interpretation of the council, not that Bible verse.

[@vaderkurt7848]

What about Canon 4 specifically?

[@eldermillennial8330]

@@Julian96760
Comparing such as that and Orthodox consistency, as compared to the contradictions between V1 & V2’s Liturgical Time Bombs, helped me swim UP the Tiber, that is, to its clean source, Western Orthodoxy.

[@Julian96760]

@@vaderkurt7848 It says that a Bishop is to be ordained by a multitude of other bishops in the area, not by the bishop of Rome.

[@Salve_Regina8]

TRAD LIFE BRO!! 💯

[@xSAINTPERKx]

Ahh Catholics some of the first protestants. ☦️

[@reverendcoffinsotherson5807]

Nah.

[@aldoschiavone4167]

God bless the Pope:

[@elias8141]

Or accept that noman is infallible except Jesus Christ and rather support democracy in the church

[@reverendcoffinsotherson5807]

Where did Jesus say let democracy reign in the church?

[@elias8141]

@@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 where did he say "don't t let democracy reign in the church"?
Jesus also didn't say "boiling cats is bad" does that make it okay???!
Democracy (or at least anti-dictatorship) follows logically from verses like Romans 3:23 because if all are sinners then you can't trust one person to make the right decision

[@jeanjeanty3122]

I am sorry but are we talking about the same same Pope that now allowing priests to bless same sex couple a sin so we could be more loving. No thank you. As a Christian I strive to submit to My high priest Jesus Christ in the Holy Spirit and in the word of God (bible). I wish you the best in walking with God even if I disagree. God bless you.

[@reverendcoffinsotherson5807]

No, the Pope did not say that. He never said bless same sex unions or couples.

[@Wanda4849]

This Pope is no man of God! No one should be looking to him for spiritual advice. No one on earth is infallible! That was only Jesus Christ! Never submit to any man!

[@G-MIP]

Your comment shows you are ignorant and uneducated about the 2,000 yr old Catholic Church established by Christ (Matthew 16:18).

[@G-MIP]

Matthew 16:18

[@Wanda4849]

@G-MIP The Church is built on Peter's confession that Jesus is the Christ. He is the head of the Church and no one else. Compare our Lord's earthly ministry. He was humble and walked among the people. A totally different scenario than what lives and enjoys the luxurious life of the Vatican.

[@vaderkurt7848]

​@@Wanda4849 The vatican ain't all that luxurious.

[@Wanda4849]

@@vaderkurt7848 Blinded by the might!

[@sleeperino3054]

Facts

[@jaimeazcarate7292]

I submit to Jesus Christ

[@Orthodox-Against-UTTP]

Neither Catholics nor Protestants are the OG church of Christ Orthodoxy is Truth!

[@thomasjefferson5727]

What is a vicker?

[@reverendcoffinsotherson5807]

Victor*

[@thomasjefferson5727]

@@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 No. Vicar.