As a Roman Catholic from Indonesia, I wish all Eastern Catholicism flourish just as Latin Catholicism. That would be awesome seeing the whole world being saved through all rites.
A Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic here from the Washington community. Watching this I was happy to see quite a few priests that I know. I am very blessed to be a part of the beautiful Byzantine world.
I was on Facebook today and came across Saint George’s Facebook page. Just by seeing the pictures, I get a strong sense of a Christian community becoming a family. I might be visiting this summer.
it's sad, very sad. catholicism is a deception and only when one understands Scripture can they see this. i've asked a Bible question or 2 to 'V of R' and just like Steve Ray, just like Keith Nestor, just like Mike Schmits, just like all the other catholics -- they have no answers. how can you sincerely consider this Christianity when it doesn't meet His criteria -- 1 Tim 3:15 ?? how can you say these are Christians when they simply do not love Jesus Christ -- John 14:15 ??
We just went to Holy Spirit in Parma this past weekend. Very nice to see Bishop Pipta here. We're Romans, but we greatly respect the Byzantine Church. I am very fortunate to be surrounded by Byzantine Churches here in NE Ohio!
Beautiful video. I’m Byzantine Catholic in the Eparchy of Phoenix. My wife was raised in an FSSP parish and she said she honestly did not know there were Eastern Rites in communion with Rome when she was a child. Now she and our children are all Byzantine.
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Byzantine Catholicism will save Catholicism! When I was an altar boy my favorite priest ever was from the Byzantine rite.
I feel such a strong connection to Byzantine, however, I have been a Latin rite for over 1000 years in my family, and I know I am needed here and have so much work to do. God Bless x And Fr. Simeon we are in the South Bronx, I love our Franciscan Friars they are the most charitable I have EVER seen.
Father Loya is one of the greatest. I attend the Tridentine Mass (Traditional Latin Mass), and I love the personal philosophy of Fr Loya. He wants all of us Catholics to practice together in all of the Holy Mass' forms that we have, about how the Catholic Church is the most diverse Church of all, as we are Universal. God Bless. Ave Maria. Ave Christus Rex.
@handel1111 yeah...he seems to want priests who do unspeakable crimes to nuns to be given special treatment and punishment anybody who criticizes him...as well as not stop the Schismatic German Heretics, but go after people who disagree with him or hold traditional views.
@handel1111 I try my best to defend him, but he makes it extremely hard for me. He seemingly despises Americans, and he despises traditionalist Catholics...so I'm a double-whammy. I pray for him as much as I can. I don't want him to be remembered in my life in negativity...
@handel1111 if we had a Fr Loya become pope...the Church would be in an incredibly healthy state, and possibly have the reunion of the Orthodox Christians.
This is great. I would give a bit of caution though to Roman Catholics. My caution is this: there is nothing wrong with switching rites, but it should be done for organic reasons. Don't switch rites because you perceive a refuge that you think does not exist in your local parish. The grass is never greener on the other side. Every parish, diocese, and rite has issues to deal with. One thing we have to remember is that there is a personal sanctity that we are called to in working with God to sanctify our souls in whatever situation we find ourselves in. It is fallen human nature to think that our own problems are a result of our community - but those individual problems follow us wherever we go. We want to blame our pastor, our bishop, our fellow parishioners. And this habit of blaming others doesn't go away by changing parishes. Likewise, if you like Byzantine devotions you are free to practice those as a Roman rite Catholic - just the same as many Byzantine Catholics love the Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and other Roman rite devotions. God bless.
There are Byzantine Catholics in Singapore. I helped organize a Divine Liturgy back in September. Let me know if you want to be connected to the community there
I've been pondering about transferring rites from Latin to Byzantine for a little while now, cause there's some traditions I like that the East does that I wish the West does and vice versa. Unfortunately in Iowa there's only one Byzantine Catholic outreach center and its almost a two hours drive for me and they only offer the Divine Liturgy once a month, God willing more Eastern Catholics will pop up in Iowa.
Have you looked to see if there's another church utilizing the byzantine rite? Obviously there are many churches that do but in the United States the Byzantine name is Synonymous with the Ruthenian Church a.k.a the Byzantine Catholic Church or the Byzantine Ruthenian Church. It's possible you may have a melkite church near you, they are byzantine as well, or a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.
Same with me I live in Minnesota and there is only one Byzantine Catholic Church which is the only eastern Catholic Church and the time they have mass won’t work with my schedule and they don’t have daily mass
@@johnkehoe1067if you go to the traditional Latin mass it’s all in Latin except the homily. Novus Ordo mass is valid but not as reverent (not the people just the mass) I’d say. But God bless our brothers and sisters in the Catholic faith.
Happy weekend brother Alex....thx for this amazing video and all the priest 🙏....much Love from Roman Catholic 💛🤍💛🤍💛... We love you all. God bless .... Keep going the good work .
Blessed to have had Bishop (Father) Robert as my parish priest and as a Father figure growing up. I pray for his ministry and know that he will help the Eparchy of Parma grow and flourish.
Really blessed interview. I enjoyed listening more than I hoped.. God bless all Catholic rites to grow in faith in Him, our shepard, teacher, and above all Saviour Jesus Christ ! :) Amen
@@junicornplays980 Well that's good. I'm Catholic also but when I visited a Russian Orthodox Church they seemed a bit uncomfortable with me, though at the same time I can't blame them. Still appreciated them for having me celebrate Divine Liturgy with them.
@@artdanks4846 , I am a UGCC member and feel Eastern Catholicism is Holy Orthodoxy. The only difference is I believe that Canon 3 of the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople give Old Rome prerogative of honor over New Rome. Compile this with the Donatist heresy which attacked the legitimacy of the succession of those bishops, who gave over the treasures of the Church and led some to martyrdom during the Emperor Diocletian's persecution, who were reinstated. Donatism was condemned and the legitimacy of those bishops apostolic authority in the sacraments were valid. There are plenty of Eastern Orthodox bishops that supported the Arian Heresy; I believe the apostolic succession of the lineage of bishops is unbroken in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Ergo, the same applies to the Western Apostolic succession even if there might be legitimate errors.
I love your content, but I would like to point out the Byzantine Tradition is not the only Eastern Christian Tradition. I am from the Western Antiochene Tradition (I am a member of the Maronite Church): there is also the Eastern Antiochene Tradition; Alexandria Tradition et al. A number of us Eastern Catholic Churches are growing. Let us pray that the fullness of the Church is shared with the WORLD!
Maybe one of the reasons why a lot of Catholics are going to the eastern rite is because of pope Francis’ attack on the TLM. I have certainly contemplated going to the Eastern rite if my parish were to die. It would take the pope’s hand for that to happen because it’s anything but dying just like many other parishes which died at his command. There’s still lots of reverence,beauty and orthodoxy in the East. But you probably won’t accept this answer since you blindly defend everything the pope does. How do you explain his recent move of getting rid of the Faithful bishop Strickland? While in the past he (Francis) not only forgave MCkarick but gave him a high position in the church after having been demoted by Benedict for the abuse scandals. Please explain that.
This was very interesting and informative. Thank you for producing it. But I hope there is a "part 2" or even a "part 3" where we hear from the good majority of the Assembly delegates who are laypersons. The greatest beauty, I think, of this Assembly was the highly engaged and uplifting participation and leadership of so many lay people.
I've been stifled in the Western Catholic Church for red tape I'm not speaking about here, but the Eastern Orthodox church accepts me despite it. So I am going to Vespers this Saturday!
I deeply respect the Eastern Catholics. I think they followed the example set out by Jesus, and I really believe, that if Rome or Constantinople ever to soften their hearts & join communion, it will be because of them. They are the nexus of unity.
Which one? Greek? Russian? Serbian? Ukrainian? Syrian? Coptic? Because none of them can seem to agree with eachother on anything and many of them are even in schism with themselves. So which one is true?
Actually the church is not indestinguishable from an Orthodox one. The style of Iconostas is more screen-like (see through) And the table before the Holy Doors is not typical of Orthodox temples.
Substance and style are separate and distinct. This temple, though of its era, is exquisite in its appointments. Here, and elsewhere within the Eparchy, patrimony has been reclaimed such that the substance is almost indistinguishable.
There are many different styles for iconostases in Orthodox churches and Byzantine Catholic ones. Some mission churches don't even really have one, just some icons on stands. You can't tell which is which by looking at the design of the church.
Nothing to stop any Latin Catholic from setting up an icon corner at home. It’s worth knowing the difference between lithographs and the more expensive serigraphs.
I’m a catechumen in the Roman rite of the church, although eastern Catholicism is something I’m drawn toward my closets Byzantine church is an hour away and I’m 14 and can’t drive
So you don't transfer rites in Catholicism, you transfer canonical churches. We do not belong to a rite, we belong to a canonical sui iuris church. You can be a Latin Catholic who belongs to the Latin Church and attend a Byzantine Ruthenian Church for example with no issues. Technically speaking, you are bound to the calendar of your canonical church and its celebrations and fasting regulations regardless of where you normally attend. To switch canonical churches you would first need to attend a church for a portion of time and then speak to the father there. God bless!
Any Catholic in the state of sanctifying grace can receive the Holy Eucharist in any Catholic church. In the Byzantine Tradition, leavened bread is used, in contrast to the RCC, which uses unleavened bread. Also, the Particles are placed in the Chalice and immersed in the Precious Blood so we receive both Sacred Species at the same time. So every communicant receives the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ under both Sacred Species. God bless you in your spiritual journey !
I know a lot of the people in my area are coming back to the Eastern Catholic because like myself they discovered that their family was part of the Eastern Catholic Church but was removed from it due to problems beyond their family's controle
Can you get a married priest on to talk about how they discerned their dual vocations? I feel like I might be being called to serve in some ordained capacity, and I feel the pull towards the priesthood, but i am already married as a Latin Rite catholic, so I dont even know if it be allowed for me to switch rites in order to be able to be a married priest. There is virtually no information out there about discerning married priesthood, especially because it seems so seldom that God calls one to married priesthood, so it would be awesome to put a video out there on that. I imagine it would be helpful to catholics of all rites, not just to me. If anyone has anywhere I could turn to in order to get more info on this, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks and God bless!
As stated above, wanting to be a married priest is not a valid reason for changing rites. You need to be drawn to Eastern Catholicism for Eastern Catholicisms sake, not as a useful tool for getting something you want.
In addition to the fact that you can't switch particular Churches in order to become a married priest, even if you *did* switch, you would not only have to be Byzantine Catholic for 1-5 years, you would have to obtain the permission of your wife before you could even apply to the seminary. If your wife *freely* gave her permission, then you could apply to the seminary. Remember: "What God hath joined together, let no man put asunder." There are a lot of sacrifices that married priests, their wives and children make. Many wives of priests help teach catechism, participate in the choir etc. If your wife is not on board, the seminary will not accept you. It has to be both of you agreeing to your entering the seminary. Since you are Latin Catholic, learn to appreciate your own Tradition. The Latin Church needs to rediscover its own liturgica and spiritual patrimony. I am a lifelong Ukrainian Greek Catholic and occasionally attended the TLM as well as the regular RC Mass. It helped me to really appreciate my own Byzantine Tradition. We need to learn about and appreciate each other's Tradition. Hopefully I can attend an Armenian or Melkite Catholic Church one day.
Hello so I want to be an eastern Catholic but I also want to honor our mother Mary and also the saints (HONOR not worship) is it ok if I own a statue of like Mary or someone Ik icons work to but I really like statues (Ik byzentines honor them to but still just wondering) god bless ❤☦️
Love your video and wanted to leave a question on an unrelated topic what is your take on the palmarian church and there pontiff Joseph odermatt AKA Pedro the lll
Thank you man ❤️ I’ve been trying to weigh if I’d like to become a member of the Orthodox Church or become a Catholic of the eastern rite (I’m Protestant currently). I truly want to be unified with my brothers in Christ and y’all show that to the fullest. God Bless
@@MMonika3Please follow the church Fathers. Consider why the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church split. Catholic means universal and Orthodox means right believe. I pray God will lead you to the Apostolic Church. The church that Christ started.🇨🇦☦️🙏
By following the Fathers of the Church thru history, and tracing back historically and theologically, the differences between the East and West regarding the Papacy is clear. The Pope was never originally considered the "Head of the Church"! That title belongs only to Christ. Originally, the Pope was considered to be "The First Among EQUALS", and therefore not the "head" of the other Patriarchs.
Become Orthodox! The Roman Church has created many innovations in the Christian faith! They, have put a man in the place of Christ - Christ is the Bishop of His Church; not the pope! Moreover, there cannot be two versions of the Nicene Creed this was revealed as the true statement representing right belief at the first Ecumenical council of Nicaea! Later, the western Church added the Filioque clause to the Nicene Creed - Leo III had silver tablets engraved with the Creed engraved on it without the Filioque clause to show that this innovation was heretical! If you become Eastern Catholic, you will become an Eastern Christian trying to pretend to be Orthodox - trying to profess Orthodox beliefs whilst at the same time being trying to put a square into a circle! Meaning, professing to believe what the Orthodox Church believes whilst trying to also support Roman Catholic dogma, which diverges from Orthodox theology on many issues!
Save yourself sometime, become Orthodox. I went the Catholic way first only to find out down the road that the Orthodox Church is truly the true church. I’m a catechumen now.
The Eastern Catholic Churches are lifeboats. In the Northern Part of Houston, the 3 Byzantine based Catholic parishes are getting people from the LR. And one has gained from the nearby TLM parish.
I have a question brother im roman catholic waht is the difference between roman catholic and eastern catholic and waht do you think about roman catholic christianity? God bless you all🙏🏽
The difference is the liturgy. So when you attend a Byzantine Catholic church, it will go a little differently than a Roman Catholic service. It's Greek based instead of Latin, and the icons are in the Byzantine style instead of the Renaissance European art of a Roman Catholic church That being said: both churches are united under the same Pope, so it's not like you need to convert or do anything special, just show up!
Actually it won't. Bc although they still have the orthodox theology, they are in communion with rome, which is something the orthodox will refer to it as the ecumenism heresy (which is a heresy of being in communion with a church that doesn't have the same belief as urs) Although as orthodox Christians we are happy that they hold on to the true theology, its sad that by being in communion with rome they broke their communion with constantinople, antioch, Jerusalem and alexandria.
@@ionictheist349 That isn't exactly accurate. Byzantine Catholics are in communion with the Roman, Syriac, Armenian, and Alexandrian rites. The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in communion with anybody, they are pretty much exclusively a Byzantine family, have no magisterium, and are divided amongst nationalistic lines.
It depends what you mean by "conservative". Are they still upset over the exoneration of Capt. Dreyfuss? No. They have married priests but because that is the older (more conservative?) tradition. The laity have a strong role in the Byzantine Church (you don't see in the Latin Church an Assembly of mostly lay people like this). The Byzantine liturgy has many practices which the Latin Church adopted after VCII - vernacular language, communion in both forms, standing to receive communion, free standing altar, varying canons (anaphora) , evening worship, etc.
I’m Roman Catholic and I’ve read the Gospels had trouble understanding a lot of it however doesn’t it say in Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters.He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” I thought that’s why priest cannot marry they marry the church or am I misunderstanding
If you’re ordained first then you cannot marry. If you are married the decide to become a priest it’s permissible. Once your spouse passes, you cannot marry. This is eastern tradition. Roman tradition (western) priest cannot be married regardless but deacons follow the same as eastern tradition priest,
I totally appreciate eastern Catholicism and even EO (though they like us less than we like them haha). But I have to say that I like Latin art and architecture more (particularly Renaissance and Baroque). But that's just personal opinion.
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME; This is God's gift to humanity. The death, burial and resurrection of his son. ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES......... For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Sacrifice and offerings were not good enough . THAT'S WHY JESUS CAME. Jesus is truly God and truly man. first of all, the Pharisees and sadducees said in john 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy,( BECAUSE YOU, A MERE MAN, CLAIM TO BE GOD.”)When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, (Matthew 16:13) Who do people say the Son of Man is?” They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah OR ONE OF THE PROPHETS.” “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. According to Peter, Jesus is the son of God the MESSIAH not just a prophet. Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: john 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! And looking at Jesus as He walked, he said, “Behold the Lamb of God" (John 1:35)! John may not have completely understood the ministry of Jesus because John expressed some doubts (Luke 7:20) but he understood enough to know that Jesus was that promised Messiah and that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood…and ultimately, the blood of the Lamb of God would be required for the complete forgiveness of sins. HE TOOK THE PUNISHMENT THAT WE DESERVED FOR BREAKING GOD'S LAW 2nd corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. 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The question is who do you say HE is. In Hebrews 1:8 God the father calls Jesus God. JESUS SAID I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE, collasians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, collasians 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, john 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jesus is eternal HE made everything He even shares the glory with the Father that He has aways shared with him. AS A MATTER OF A FACT JESUS SAYS In john 16:15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT BUT GOD HIMSELF. JESUS ALSO SAYS Many will say (TO ME)on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then( I WILL) TELL THEM PLAINLY, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ JESUS IS GOD, and He WILL JUDGE. BELIEVE. If you believe in Jesus, his death burial and resurrection according to the scriptures, YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN YOU.
Hi, as a latin rite catholic was curious to know why the eastern rite allows priests to marry... i was under the impression that the priests are celebate as they represent Jesus and the church is his bride.. so effectively a priest marries the church just like christ married his bride the church and gave His life for her.. being a married priest, how does one reconcile with this thought? If this thinking is not correct, then why dont we have women priests? I asking this question in all humility and not pointing fingers at our eastern rite brothers and sisters..
Analogies are not perfect. Yes, priests can be seen as "married" to the Church, but Jesus is also the Bridegroom of every soul, married, unmarried, man or woman, priests and laity, because we are all part of the Church, the bride of Christ. If you take it literally though it sounds like polygamy or contradictory with priests being both the bride and bridegroom. But really marriage is meant to illustrate the love and close relationship Jesus has for His Church. We don't have female priests because priests are fathers!
Lol at people talking about the Latin Rite. The Norvus Ordo is about as Latin Rite as McDonalds is a gourmet hamburger, but ok. Eastern Rite Catholicism is just a cheap knock off of Orthodoxy; so it’s not really any better. If Rome repents of her heresies and returns to Orthodox theology and reestablishes the Extraordinary form of the Mass (in vernacular or Latin) then I’ll gladly be Catholic. Until then I’ll remain Orthodox.
Exactly! Doesnt matter what type of liturgy you chose go to within the Cathoic church, you are still loyal to the papacy and the papacy as defined by their own faith you must submit to Rome. Regardless.
I'm genuinely happy Orthodoxy is taking many of the prideful, arrogant, historically illiterate, toxic young men drawn to Apostalic Christianity in the USA. I'm turned off but not surprised you abound in this video about Eastern Catholics for Catholics, it seems like you all go looking for every opportunity to sneer and showcase your sense of superiority. Your bishops must be very proud of your behavior. Now I just feel bad for the cradle Orthodox who have to put up with you. Oh and I hate to bring this up bc I do have respect for the Western rite Orthodox and want to send them love. But if anything is a knock off it's that church within your communion. It was just sort of made up from scratch in the 19th century. The Ukrainian/Ruthenian Church has an actual tradition behind it, they just switched to Catholicism in the 16th century.
"Eastern Rite Catholicism is just a cheap knock off of Orthodoxy" - Doesn't seem so cheap when you consider all the heroic martyrs who refused to renounce their faith when persecuted by the communists, including refusing to renounce their communion with the successors of St. Peter. All the holy Eastern Rite saints, pray for us!
This so called Byzantine rite could save the Roman-Catholic Church in general, if it manages to take the Vatican from the Latin rite, but ultimately even the Byzantine rite is doomed, if it doesn't manage to bring the Roman-Catholic Church back to its roots, or at least to a state before the Vatican Councils, and what's more important, the Byzantine rite is the only chance for reunification of the Roman-Catholic Church, or the Western-Roman Patriarchate with the Orthodox Church.
The Vatican is Roman. It is not meant to be the seat of "Byzantine" Christianity. That certainly would not go over well. Latin Christianity is the largest expression by far and the Vatican can serve that and all other liturgical rites very well. There are things throughout the entire church that need to be addressed.
@@caseycardenas1668 Obviously, the Vatican is the seat of Western-Roman Patriarchate, which is dominated by the Latin tradition, but since the Roman-Catholic Church have adopted the eastern tradition, the Byzantine rite is allowed to compete with the Latin rite over influence on the Vatican.
@@ivanos_95 not quite sure what you're getting at, the Byzantine Church couldn't wholesale move in and take control of the Vatican or the Papacy. Just because they're in communion with Rome doesn't mean they will inherit the see of Peter. Secondly it would make absolutely no sense, the majority of the world are Latin Catholics. Byzantine Catholics make up next to nothing numerically. It would be a disservice for the minority to have that type of jurisdiction over the largest portion of the Church. Ideally, an eastern catholic pope would be interesting. He would have to be bi-ritual and he could service both lungs of the church in a new and extraordinary way coming from an eastern background looking westward rather than westward looking eastward.
@@caseycardenas1668 I mean, having the Byzantine rite as leader of the Roman-Catholic Church, would be a solution to many problems, especially when it comes to reunification with the Orthodox Church, while considering that the Byzantine rite does have a position to compete with the Latin rite, it should aim for dominance over the Vatican, or at leas the Papacy, like you've suggested.
@@ivanos_95 in reality it won't happen though and I'm not sure that it should anyways. The pope is meant to be the bishop of Rome. The bishop of Rome is the head of the Latin Church as well as universal pastor. The EO disregard the EC. The EO disregard the Oriental Churches as well. It's not just the west that has disregarded the east but the east has also disregarded the west.
@@3ggshe11s i saw the video of the byzantine catholic church, and then when the priest part came in that he was married, i was in shock, i was raised roman catholic and my mom said it was a sin for preist to marry so, why are they married if it’s a sin?
As long as one's yoke is tied to the "vicar of Christ" one can only be pulled in the direction of the world. Byzantine Catholicism is but a step away from Orthodoxy which maintains the true faith of the apostles passed throughout the ages. Come home brethren, the Holy Mother Church is waiting to embrace you.
@@jrtoler69 orthodoxy is indeed beautiful but it is not the “full meal” I am open to it but I’m not convinced on two major things. 1. Eastern Orthodoxy is not universal. It is sectioned by nationality for example the Greek orthodox and Russian they share the name “Orthodox” but are basically two different churches and thus does not fulfill the characteristics of the church of Christ, (Universal) you all keep anathematizing everyone including yourselfs lol 2. Say what you want but the Orthodox Church did not bring Christ to the world. Let’s be real. Catholic missionaries went all over the world that is why you will find cities named after Catholic saints all over. There is catholic martyr blood spilled in every part of the world. That’s a historical fact. So the orthodox did not fulfill the commandment of Jesus Christ when he said to go and make disciples of every nation. The Catholic church built western civilization.
@@DR-nw3jn actually you’re wrong, they are universal. It’s different languages for different areas but they all carry the same belief. There is even a western rite Orthodox Church now aswell. And you’re right the west to did start evangelizing first in America. I think you forget the split caused a lot of issues for Orthodoxy, then there was the Roman sack of Constantinople where the crusaders killed men and children and raped the nuns on the alters. Then the ottomans took over Constantinople. The Orthodox Church did bounce back though, and now you see ALOT of converts in America. Just because the Catholics have more doesn’t make them the “true” church. And you say the Catholic Church is universal, it really wasn’t. When the Catholic Church got to America is was also segregated by language as well. Not to mention now you have pre Vatican 2 Catholics, Trad Catholics, Eastern Catholics who thinks that the Niceness Creed should be restored to the original. So where exactly is the unity? There are much more differences I could mention.
@@jrtoler69Vatican 2 Catholics are same as traditional Catholics. Traditional just prefer traditional latin rite while most prefer novus ordo. Not a big deal. I sometimes attened byzantine rite and nobody thinks that they need to change the creed to original. Everything is bound by council of Florence. Unity is present only in Catholic church you have had multiple schism amongst urself and frankly still are (Moscow-Consantinopol 2018).
I wanted to be nice as I am hopeful of church union one day. But this is straight up cultural appropriation and ecumenism. The culture, heritage and aesthetic of the Byzantine Empire is tied to the Eastern Orthodox church and not something you can just use because it looks cool. Unless you are an historic church community that was intimidated and pressured into communion with Rome during the Crusades and are historically a Byzantine remnant community like the Melkite church, then you have no business to utilise Byzantine aesthetic and culture if it is not for a purpose that is in agreement with the authority of the Byzantine legacy and Byzantine rite worship which is the Eastern Orthodox Church. Even here in Greece where we are descendants of the Byzantines, we don't have any such thing as Byzantine rite Catholicism that is in communion with Rome. The areas of Greece which were under colonial Venetian rule have Catholic communities of Greeks who are Roman Catholic in their church aesthetic and culture. Even though they were originally Byzantine Orthodox Christians, they don't even carry over Byzantine cultural aesthetic into their Catholicism. So who is anyone else to do so? Byzantine rite Catholicism is straight up an affront on the Eastern Orthodox Church.
I have an ucranian catholic church 20 minutes from home and a byzantine catholic church around 45 from home. I feel a bit intimidated going to the ucranian church as a hispanic. Might choose the byzantine church instead.
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As a Roman Catholic from Indonesia, I wish all Eastern Catholicism flourish just as Latin Catholicism. That would be awesome seeing the whole world being saved through all rites.
How can they when roman Catholics spread throughout the east during colonization era??
Hi, I'm a Roman Catholic from Indonesia, too. Have you ever attended eastern rites in where you live?
@@randomcommenterphd893 i haven't
That would be horrible eastern Catholics have beautiful valid and glorious ways of celebrating the sacraments
@@josephjacob3274There is only Catholicism. All are Catholics.
I love my brothers & sisters of the Byzantine Catholics! In full union with such a beautiful expression of our faith. God bless!
I respect you for what you are doing as a Roman Catholic from Poland!
A Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic here from the Washington community. Watching this I was happy to see quite a few priests that I know. I am very blessed to be a part of the beautiful Byzantine world.
I was on Facebook today and came across Saint George’s Facebook page. Just by seeing the pictures, I get a strong sense of a Christian community becoming a family. I might be visiting this summer.
so much fruit in this video ❤️Thank you, Alex and all priests and brothers for their service to the Lord and to all people 🙏God bless you ❤️🙏
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This was excellent. Thank you
Thank you, Father! 🙏🏽
it's sad, very sad. catholicism is a deception and only when one understands Scripture can they see this.
i've asked a Bible question or 2 to 'V of R' and just like Steve Ray, just like Keith Nestor, just like Mike Schmits, just like all the other catholics -- they have no answers.
how can you sincerely consider this Christianity when it doesn't meet His criteria -- 1 Tim 3:15 ??
how can you say these are Christians when they simply do not love Jesus Christ -- John 14:15 ??
We just went to Holy Spirit in Parma this past weekend. Very nice to see Bishop Pipta here. We're Romans, but we greatly respect the Byzantine Church. I am very fortunate to be surrounded by Byzantine Churches here in NE Ohio!
Beautiful video. I’m Byzantine Catholic in the Eparchy of Phoenix. My wife was raised in an FSSP parish and she said she honestly did not know there were Eastern Rites in communion with Rome when she was a child. Now she and our children are all Byzantine.
Byzantine Catholicism will save Catholicism! When I was an altar boy my favorite priest ever was from the Byzantine rite.
1% will save the majority?? I don't think so.
I feel such a strong connection to Byzantine, however, I have been a Latin rite for over 1000 years in my family, and I know I am needed here and have so much work to do. God Bless x
And Fr. Simeon we are in the South Bronx, I love our Franciscan Friars they are the most charitable I have EVER seen.
Father Loya is one of the greatest. I attend the Tridentine Mass (Traditional Latin Mass), and I love the personal philosophy of Fr Loya. He wants all of us Catholics to practice together in all of the Holy Mass' forms that we have, about how the Catholic Church is the most diverse Church of all, as we are Universal.
God Bless. Ave Maria. Ave Christus Rex.
But the current pope doesn't want that
@handel1111 yeah...he seems to want priests who do unspeakable crimes to nuns to be given special treatment and punishment anybody who criticizes him...as well as not stop the Schismatic German Heretics, but go after people who disagree with him or hold traditional views.
@handel1111 I try my best to defend him, but he makes it extremely hard for me. He seemingly despises Americans, and he despises traditionalist Catholics...so I'm a double-whammy.
I pray for him as much as I can. I don't want him to be remembered in my life in negativity...
@handel1111 if we had a Fr Loya become pope...the Church would be in an incredibly healthy state, and possibly have the reunion of the Orthodox Christians.
I am a roman catholic, but going to join Byzantine church soon.
I did that myself
100% do it
I wanna do it too but there’s none in my country
Yes, do it! We have no easter catholic churches in Spain...
Why???
Why?
Philippines also need them! Our Catholic Church and its leaders are more of liberal than what they should be. Byzantines can teach us a lot!
visit eastern orthodox church at yp united paranaque subd. paranaque,manila
This is a very important contribution to the renewal of the Church. Very much indebted to your work here, Alex! Thank you brother!!!
This is great. I would give a bit of caution though to Roman Catholics. My caution is this: there is nothing wrong with switching rites, but it should be done for organic reasons. Don't switch rites because you perceive a refuge that you think does not exist in your local parish. The grass is never greener on the other side. Every parish, diocese, and rite has issues to deal with. One thing we have to remember is that there is a personal sanctity that we are called to in working with God to sanctify our souls in whatever situation we find ourselves in. It is fallen human nature to think that our own problems are a result of our community - but those individual problems follow us wherever we go. We want to blame our pastor, our bishop, our fellow parishioners. And this habit of blaming others doesn't go away by changing parishes.
Likewise, if you like Byzantine devotions you are free to practice those as a Roman rite Catholic - just the same as many Byzantine Catholics love the Rosary, the Divine Mercy chaplet, and other Roman rite devotions. God bless.
Well said.
Come & see ☦️
Indonesian Catholic here 🇮🇩 So attracted to the Byzantine Catholicism, too bad we don’t have one here in my country
There are Byzantine Catholics in Singapore. I helped organize a Divine Liturgy back in September. Let me know if you want to be connected to the community there
Oh I am an Indonesian catholic too, I just spent a lot of time in Singapore for business and educational reasons
I've been pondering about transferring rites from Latin to Byzantine for a little while now, cause there's some traditions I like that the East does that I wish the West does and vice versa. Unfortunately in Iowa there's only one Byzantine Catholic outreach center and its almost a two hours drive for me and they only offer the Divine Liturgy once a month, God willing more Eastern Catholics will pop up in Iowa.
Have you looked to see if there's another church utilizing the byzantine rite? Obviously there are many churches that do but in the United States the Byzantine name is Synonymous with the Ruthenian Church a.k.a the Byzantine Catholic Church or the Byzantine Ruthenian Church.
It's possible you may have a melkite church near you, they are byzantine as well, or a Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.
Try Syro Malabar.Taste the Syrian/Aramaic heritage.
Same with me I live in Minnesota and there is only one Byzantine Catholic Church which is the only eastern Catholic Church and the time they have mass won’t work with my schedule and they don’t have daily mass
Indeed. Is the Latin rite truly Latin anymore? Any Latin in it seems to be denigrated these days, and millions of souls have left...
@@johnkehoe1067if you go to the traditional Latin mass it’s all in Latin except the homily.
Novus Ordo mass is valid but not as reverent (not the people just the mass) I’d say. But God bless our brothers and sisters in the Catholic faith.
Happy weekend brother Alex....thx for this amazing video and all the priest 🙏....much Love from Roman Catholic 💛🤍💛🤍💛... We love you all. God bless .... Keep going the good work .
Bishop Robert Pipta God Bless you!🙏🏽
Blessed to have had Bishop (Father) Robert as my parish priest and as a Father figure growing up. I pray for his ministry and know that he will help the Eparchy of Parma grow and flourish.
Really blessed interview. I enjoyed listening more than I hoped..
God bless all Catholic rites to grow in faith in Him, our shepard, teacher, and above all Saviour Jesus Christ ! :)
Amen
I wish I had a Byzantine Church in my area, but sadly, we don't. If we did, I'd attend it in a heartbeat!
It took me a while to get used to the voice of the host. 😊I love the video though. Very informative.
I’m Antiochian Orthodox…. I love my Byzantine Catholic brothers and sisters ❤
Same here! And I pray that God will lead them to Holy Orthodoxy, that they may become united to the True Church.
I'm a Catholic and visited an Antiochian Orthodox church this weekend and was overwhelmed by the love and hospitality I was shown.
@@junicornplays980 Thank you for sharing this with us! Glory to God! 🙏☦️
@@junicornplays980 Well that's good. I'm Catholic also but when I visited a Russian Orthodox Church they seemed a bit uncomfortable with me, though at the same time I can't blame them. Still appreciated them for having me celebrate Divine Liturgy with them.
@@artdanks4846 , I am a UGCC member and feel Eastern Catholicism is Holy Orthodoxy. The only difference is I believe that Canon 3 of the Ecumenical Council of Constantinople give Old Rome prerogative of honor over New Rome. Compile this with the Donatist heresy which attacked the legitimacy of the succession of those bishops, who gave over the treasures of the Church and led some to martyrdom during the Emperor Diocletian's persecution, who were reinstated. Donatism was condemned and the legitimacy of those bishops apostolic authority in the sacraments were valid. There are plenty of Eastern Orthodox bishops that supported the Arian Heresy; I believe the apostolic succession of the lineage of bishops is unbroken in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Ergo, the same applies to the Western Apostolic succession even if there might be legitimate errors.
I did not know that there are other churches in communion with the pope. Roman Catholic from the Philippines. ❤
I love your content, but I would like to point out the Byzantine Tradition is not the only Eastern Christian Tradition. I am from the Western Antiochene Tradition (I am a member of the Maronite Church): there is also the Eastern Antiochene Tradition; Alexandria Tradition et al. A number of us Eastern Catholic Churches are growing. Let us pray that the fullness of the Church is shared with the WORLD!
Maybe one of the reasons why a lot of Catholics are going to the eastern rite is because of pope Francis’ attack on the TLM. I have certainly contemplated going to the Eastern rite if my parish were to die. It would take the pope’s hand for that to happen because it’s anything but dying just like many other parishes which died at his command. There’s still lots of reverence,beauty and orthodoxy in the East. But you probably won’t accept this answer since you blindly defend everything the pope does. How do you explain his recent move of getting rid of the Faithful bishop Strickland? While in the past he (Francis) not only forgave MCkarick but gave him a high position in the church after having been demoted by Benedict for the abuse scandals. Please explain that.
Hey Voice of Reason when did you became a Catholic or did you grew up Catholic Question? 🙏🏻✝️
This was very interesting and informative. Thank you for producing it. But I hope there is a "part 2" or even a "part 3" where we hear from the good majority of the Assembly delegates who are laypersons. The greatest beauty, I think, of this Assembly was the highly engaged and uplifting participation and leadership of so many lay people.
I've been stifled in the Western Catholic Church for red tape I'm not speaking about here, but the Eastern Orthodox church accepts me despite it. So I am going to Vespers this Saturday!
Glory to God, brother! Home is in the east. ☦️
Welcome, Orthodox Church has scissors lol.☦️. ❤for our Catholic friends too!
It beutiful that he kissed something holy like the hands that consecrate the bread and wine.
This is a really beautiful video. Well Made. Beautiful art in the Church...🍞🍷⛪️🙌🏻✝️🕊📖🙏🏻🫶🏻😇
I deeply respect the Eastern Catholics. I think they followed the example set out by Jesus, and I really believe, that if Rome or Constantinople ever to soften their hearts & join communion, it will be because of them. They are the nexus of unity.
that’s amazing!!
Love from a Syro malabar Catholic
I’ll take Orthodox Christianity please
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Which one? Greek? Russian? Serbian? Ukrainian? Syrian? Coptic? Because none of them can seem to agree with eachother on anything and many of them are even in schism with themselves. So which one is true?
Why?
@@SanctusPaulus1962Coptic falls under Oriental Orthodox.
We have eastern church here in woodland Park NJ never been there but planing too
Is that a Melkite church?
Amen! Thank God for the growth we are seeing in our Church!
Actually the church is not indestinguishable from an Orthodox one. The style of Iconostas is more screen-like (see through) And the table before the Holy Doors is not typical of Orthodox temples.
Substance and style are separate and distinct. This temple, though of its era, is exquisite in its appointments. Here, and elsewhere within the Eparchy, patrimony has been reclaimed such that the substance is almost indistinguishable.
There are many different styles for iconostases in Orthodox churches and Byzantine Catholic ones. Some mission churches don't even really have one, just some icons on stands. You can't tell which is which by looking at the design of the church.
Thank you for Brother Simeon's testimony. I love the CFRs as well as the spiritual and liturgical life of Eastern Catholicism.
Nothing to stop any Latin Catholic from setting up an icon corner at home. It’s worth knowing the difference between lithographs and the more expensive serigraphs.
Magnificent church!!!
The Church is essential 📿♥️🇻🇦✝️
I’m a catechumen in the Roman rite of the church, although eastern Catholicism is something I’m drawn toward my closets Byzantine church is an hour away and I’m 14 and can’t drive
May God bless you and your journey.
Underrated video
Here in St John Ogilvie church Blantyre Scotland each Sunday Syro Malabar rite is celebrated .❤
Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever! Thank you for sharing this. I wanted to
Attend but was unable to.
Do you have to formally transfer rites as a Catholic, or can you not just attend any rite freely depending on where you are?
So you don't transfer rites in Catholicism, you transfer canonical churches. We do not belong to a rite, we belong to a canonical sui iuris church.
You can be a Latin Catholic who belongs to the Latin Church and attend a Byzantine Ruthenian Church for example with no issues. Technically speaking, you are bound to the calendar of your canonical church and its celebrations and fasting regulations regardless of where you normally attend.
To switch canonical churches you would first need to attend a church for a portion of time and then speak to the father there. God bless!
I’m a Roman Catholic catechumen, when I’m able to receive the Eucharist can I receive it at an Eastern Catholic Church?
Become Orthodox instead. It's the true Church of Jesus Christ!
Western catholics and eastern catholics might have the eucharist, but may difference from their culture
@@Maharlikan_Federal_Empire well of course there gonna have different culture I’ve visited eastern Catholic Churches many times
100% you can
Any Catholic in the state of sanctifying grace can receive the Holy Eucharist in any Catholic church. In the Byzantine Tradition, leavened bread is used, in contrast to the RCC, which uses unleavened bread. Also, the Particles are placed in the Chalice and immersed in the Precious Blood so we receive both Sacred Species at the same time. So every communicant receives the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ under both Sacred Species.
God bless you in your spiritual journey !
All the good information aside, your voice is amazing.
I know a lot of the people in my area are coming back to the Eastern Catholic because like myself they discovered that their family was part of the Eastern Catholic Church but was removed from it due to problems beyond their family's controle
can Paul be contacted? I have been willing to talk to a married Priest. Thank you
Thanks so much for this
I just started going regularly to a Byzantine Catholic parish. I’m scared to be in a new parish, but may the most Sacred Heart of Jesus guide me
Can you get a married priest on to talk about how they discerned their dual vocations? I feel like I might be being called to serve in some ordained capacity, and I feel the pull towards the priesthood, but i am already married as a Latin Rite catholic, so I dont even know if it be allowed for me to switch rites in order to be able to be a married priest. There is virtually no information out there about discerning married priesthood, especially because it seems so seldom that God calls one to married priesthood, so it would be awesome to put a video out there on that. I imagine it would be helpful to catholics of all rites, not just to me. If anyone has anywhere I could turn to in order to get more info on this, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks and God bless!
As stated above, wanting to be a married priest is not a valid reason for changing rites. You need to be drawn to Eastern Catholicism for Eastern Catholicisms sake, not as a useful tool for getting something you want.
In addition to the fact that you can't switch particular Churches in order to become a married priest, even if you *did* switch, you would not only have to be Byzantine Catholic for 1-5 years, you would have to obtain the permission of your wife before you could even apply to the seminary. If your wife *freely* gave her permission, then you could apply to the seminary. Remember: "What God hath joined together, let no man put asunder."
There are a lot of sacrifices that married priests, their wives and children make. Many wives of priests help teach catechism, participate in the choir etc. If your wife is not on board, the seminary will not accept you. It has to be both of you agreeing to your entering the seminary.
Since you are Latin Catholic, learn to appreciate your own Tradition. The Latin Church needs to rediscover its own liturgica and spiritual patrimony. I am a lifelong Ukrainian Greek Catholic and occasionally attended the TLM as well as the regular RC Mass. It helped me to really appreciate my own Byzantine Tradition.
We need to learn about and appreciate each other's Tradition. Hopefully I can attend an Armenian or Melkite Catholic Church one day.
Please make a video showing your book collection! I need more great books to read. Please consider this! God bless you!
Hello so I want to be an eastern Catholic but I also want to honor our mother Mary and also the saints (HONOR not worship) is it ok if I own a statue of like Mary or someone Ik icons work to but I really like statues (Ik byzentines honor them to but still just wondering) god bless ❤☦️
I feel so blessed to live in Parma because I get to live in a hub of different Catholic traditions.
Love your video and wanted to leave a question on an unrelated topic what is your take on the palmarian church and there pontiff Joseph odermatt AKA Pedro the lll
5:20 It's Southside Joe... OH WAIT! It's Father Tom.
He said there’s a Byzantine church opening in Santa Paula CA? Dude that’s so close to me! I’m hyped what will the name be or location?
If you want eternal life and peace, then you need to be delivered from the religious chains of sin, the law, your flesh, and the world.
Thank you man ❤️ I’ve been trying to weigh if I’d like to become a member of the Orthodox Church or become a Catholic of the eastern rite (I’m Protestant currently). I truly want to be unified with my brothers in Christ and y’all show that to the fullest. God Bless
Become Catholic to join the fullness of the truth 💛
@@MMonika3Please follow the church Fathers. Consider why the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church split. Catholic means universal and Orthodox means right believe. I pray God will lead you to the Apostolic Church. The church that Christ started.🇨🇦☦️🙏
By following the Fathers of the Church thru history, and tracing back historically and theologically, the differences between the East and West regarding the Papacy is clear. The Pope was never originally considered the "Head of the Church"! That title belongs only to Christ. Originally, the Pope was considered to be "The First Among EQUALS", and therefore not the "head" of the other Patriarchs.
Become Orthodox! The Roman Church has created many innovations in the Christian faith! They, have put a man in the place of Christ - Christ is the Bishop of His Church; not the pope! Moreover, there cannot be two versions of the Nicene Creed this was revealed as the true statement representing right belief at the first Ecumenical council of Nicaea!
Later, the western Church added the Filioque clause to the Nicene Creed - Leo III had silver tablets engraved with the Creed engraved on it without the Filioque clause to show that this innovation was heretical! If you become Eastern Catholic, you will become an Eastern Christian trying to pretend to be Orthodox - trying to profess Orthodox beliefs whilst at the same time being trying to put a square into a circle! Meaning, professing to believe what the Orthodox Church believes whilst trying to also support Roman Catholic dogma, which diverges from Orthodox theology on many issues!
Save yourself sometime, become Orthodox. I went the Catholic way first only to find out down the road that the Orthodox Church is truly the true church. I’m a catechumen now.
What do I do if I don’t have a Byzantine Church near me?
Sadly there are no Byzantine rite churches anywhere near me. Such beautiful traditions.
+ IC XC NIKA ☦️
The Eastern Catholic Churches are lifeboats. In the Northern Part of Houston, the 3 Byzantine based Catholic parishes are getting people from the LR. And one has gained from the nearby TLM parish.
I have a question brother im roman catholic waht is the difference between roman catholic and eastern catholic and waht do you think about roman catholic christianity? God bless you all🙏🏽
The difference is the liturgy. So when you attend a Byzantine Catholic church, it will go a little differently than a Roman Catholic service. It's Greek based instead of Latin, and the icons are in the Byzantine style instead of the Renaissance European art of a Roman Catholic church
That being said: both churches are united under the same Pope, so it's not like you need to convert or do anything special, just show up!
The Eastern Rite can be the bridge to bring unity back to the Church
Actually it won't. Bc although they still have the orthodox theology, they are in communion with rome, which is something the orthodox will refer to it as the ecumenism heresy (which is a heresy of being in communion with a church that doesn't have the same belief as urs)
Although as orthodox Christians we are happy that they hold on to the true theology, its sad that by being in communion with rome they broke their communion with constantinople, antioch, Jerusalem and alexandria.
@@ionictheist349 That isn't exactly accurate. Byzantine Catholics are in communion with the Roman, Syriac, Armenian, and Alexandrian rites. The Eastern Orthodox Church is not in communion with anybody, they are pretty much exclusively a Byzantine family, have no magisterium, and are divided amongst nationalistic lines.
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The catholics are also in communion with the clown mass guys, obviously they're doing something right.
If in Edinburgh Scotland ,Our Lady of Pocheav and St Andrew has Divine Liturgy each Sunday .Praise be to GOD .❤
Honest question. Is the Byzantine rite more conservative compared to the Roman counterpart?
LOL heck no
In what sense?
@@calebadcock363 Like woke
What athanasius at the bottom is saying is don’t go to the Novus Ordo, and I’d have to agree
It depends what you mean by "conservative". Are they still upset over the exoneration of Capt. Dreyfuss? No. They have married priests but because that is the older (more conservative?) tradition. The laity have a strong role in the Byzantine Church (you don't see in the Latin Church an Assembly of mostly lay people like this). The Byzantine liturgy has many practices which the Latin Church adopted after VCII - vernacular language, communion in both forms, standing to receive communion, free standing altar, varying canons (anaphora) , evening worship, etc.
How do you change rites?
For what it's worth, you don't have to change rites to attend, or even to join an EC parish.
Latin Mass and the Divine Liturgy of St John Chrysostom are angelic
I’m Roman Catholic and I’ve read the Gospels had trouble understanding a lot of it however doesn’t it say in Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters.He will either hate one and love the other, or be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.”
I thought that’s why priest cannot marry they marry the church or am I misunderstanding
If you’re ordained first then you cannot marry. If you are married the decide to become a priest it’s permissible. Once your spouse passes, you cannot marry. This is eastern tradition.
Roman tradition (western) priest cannot be married regardless but deacons follow the same as eastern tradition priest,
God is not in the business of helping America. He sent Christ to save souls from hell and eternal separation from Him.
What do Byzantine Catholics do with the Filioque?
Saint Gregory Palamas intercede for us
I thought he was a heretic?
Wait, byzantine catholic Priests can marry? Or must they be married before hand? Are they still allowed to have children?
Married men can be ordained, but ordained men cannot get married. Yes, they can have children.
The Holy Father was certainly *not* appointing bishops throughout the world in the early church. That's a fact!
I totally appreciate eastern Catholicism and even EO (though they like us less than we like them haha). But I have to say that I like Latin art and architecture more (particularly Renaissance and Baroque). But that's just personal opinion.
You are a human being i strive to be like brother.
And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, BUT A BODY YOU PREPARED FOR ME;
This is God's gift to humanity.
The death, burial and resurrection of his son.
ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.........
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Sacrifice and offerings were not good enough .
THAT'S WHY JESUS CAME.
Jesus is truly God and truly man. first of all, the Pharisees and sadducees said in john 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy,( BECAUSE YOU, A MERE MAN, CLAIM TO BE GOD.”)When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, (Matthew 16:13) Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah OR ONE OF THE PROPHETS.”
“But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. According to Peter, Jesus is the son of God the MESSIAH not just a prophet. Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: john 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! And looking at Jesus as He walked, he said, “Behold the Lamb of God" (John 1:35)! John may not have completely understood the ministry of Jesus because John expressed some doubts (Luke 7:20) but he understood enough to know that Jesus was that promised Messiah and that there is no forgiveness without the shedding of blood…and ultimately, the blood of the Lamb of God would be required for the complete forgiveness of sins. HE TOOK THE PUNISHMENT THAT WE DESERVED
FOR BREAKING GOD'S LAW 2nd corinthians 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are-yet he did not sin. The bible says that when Jesus rose from the dead While they were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”
When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet. And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?” They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence.
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that IS WRITTEN ABOUT ME in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.” JESUS ATE JUST TO PROVE TO HIS DISCIPLES THAT IT WAS REALLY HIM( HE WAS DEAD BUT NOW HE IS ALIVE) JESUS DIED IN THE FLESH NOT IN THE SPIRIT. ALL OF US ARE GOING TO DIE ONE DAY IN THE FLESH BUT OUR SPIRIT WILL LIVE FOREVER IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS OR IN THE LAKE OF FIRE. JESUS SAID I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE no one comes unto the father except through me.
The question is who do you say HE is. In Hebrews 1:8 God the father calls Jesus God. JESUS SAID I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE, collasians 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, collasians 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, john 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jesus is eternal HE made everything He even shares the glory with the Father that He has aways shared with him. AS A MATTER OF A FACT JESUS SAYS
In john 16:15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. WHO CAN MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT BUT GOD HIMSELF. JESUS ALSO SAYS Many will say (TO ME)on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then( I WILL) TELL THEM PLAINLY, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ JESUS IS GOD, and He WILL JUDGE. BELIEVE.
If you believe in Jesus, his death burial and resurrection according to the scriptures, YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD LIVES IN YOU.
Hi, as a latin rite catholic was curious to know why the eastern rite allows priests to marry... i was under the impression that the priests are celebate as they represent Jesus and the church is his bride.. so effectively a priest marries the church just like christ married his bride the church and gave His life for her.. being a married priest, how does one reconcile with this thought?
If this thinking is not correct, then why dont we have women priests?
I asking this question in all humility and not pointing fingers at our eastern rite brothers and sisters..
Analogies are not perfect. Yes, priests can be seen as "married" to the Church, but Jesus is also the Bridegroom of every soul, married, unmarried, man or woman, priests and laity, because we are all part of the Church, the bride of Christ. If you take it literally though it sounds like polygamy or contradictory with priests being both the bride and bridegroom. But really marriage is meant to illustrate the love and close relationship Jesus has for His Church.
We don't have female priests because priests are fathers!
TLM has potential
Lol at people talking about the Latin Rite. The Norvus Ordo is about as Latin Rite as McDonalds is a gourmet hamburger, but ok. Eastern Rite Catholicism is just a cheap knock off of Orthodoxy; so it’s not really any better. If Rome repents of her heresies and returns to Orthodox theology and reestablishes the Extraordinary form of the Mass (in vernacular or Latin) then I’ll gladly be Catholic. Until then I’ll remain Orthodox.
Exactly! Doesnt matter what type of liturgy you chose go to within the Cathoic church, you are still loyal to the papacy and the papacy as defined by their own faith you must submit to Rome. Regardless.
Orthodoxy > Catholicism
The secret that most don't know is the Ordinariate is the superior Latin Rite mass.
I'm genuinely happy Orthodoxy is taking many of the prideful, arrogant, historically illiterate, toxic young men drawn to Apostalic Christianity in the USA. I'm turned off but not surprised you abound in this video about Eastern Catholics for Catholics, it seems like you all go looking for every opportunity to sneer and showcase your sense of superiority. Your bishops must be very proud of your behavior. Now I just feel bad for the cradle Orthodox who have to put up with you.
Oh and I hate to bring this up bc I do have respect for the Western rite Orthodox and want to send them love. But if anything is a knock off it's that church within your communion. It was just sort of made up from scratch in the 19th century. The Ukrainian/Ruthenian Church has an actual tradition behind it, they just switched to Catholicism in the 16th century.
"Eastern Rite Catholicism is just a cheap knock off of Orthodoxy" - Doesn't seem so cheap when you consider all the heroic martyrs who refused to renounce their faith when persecuted by the communists, including refusing to renounce their communion with the successors of St. Peter. All the holy Eastern Rite saints, pray for us!
What language is a Byzantine Catholic Divine Liturgy in?
Almost always in the vernacular.
This so called Byzantine rite could save the Roman-Catholic Church in general, if it manages to take the Vatican from the Latin rite, but ultimately even the Byzantine rite is doomed, if it doesn't manage to bring the Roman-Catholic Church back to its roots, or at least to a state before the Vatican Councils, and what's more important, the Byzantine rite is the only chance for reunification of the Roman-Catholic Church, or the Western-Roman Patriarchate with the Orthodox Church.
The Vatican is Roman. It is not meant to be the seat of "Byzantine" Christianity. That certainly would not go over well. Latin Christianity is the largest expression by far and the Vatican can serve that and all other liturgical rites very well.
There are things throughout the entire church that need to be addressed.
@@caseycardenas1668 Obviously, the Vatican is the seat of Western-Roman Patriarchate, which is dominated by the Latin tradition, but since the Roman-Catholic Church have adopted the eastern tradition, the Byzantine rite is allowed to compete with the Latin rite over influence on the Vatican.
@@ivanos_95 not quite sure what you're getting at, the Byzantine Church couldn't wholesale move in and take control of the Vatican or the Papacy. Just because they're in communion with Rome doesn't mean they will inherit the see of Peter.
Secondly it would make absolutely no sense, the majority of the world are Latin Catholics. Byzantine Catholics make up next to nothing numerically. It would be a disservice for the minority to have that type of jurisdiction over the largest portion of the Church.
Ideally, an eastern catholic pope would be interesting. He would have to be bi-ritual and he could service both lungs of the church in a new and extraordinary way coming from an eastern background looking westward rather than westward looking eastward.
@@caseycardenas1668 I mean, having the Byzantine rite as leader of the Roman-Catholic Church, would be a solution to many problems, especially when it comes to reunification with the Orthodox Church, while considering that the Byzantine rite does have a position to compete with the Latin rite, it should aim for dominance over the Vatican, or at leas the Papacy, like you've suggested.
@@ivanos_95 in reality it won't happen though and I'm not sure that it should anyways. The pope is meant to be the bishop of Rome. The bishop of Rome is the head of the Latin Church as well as universal pastor.
The EO disregard the EC. The EO disregard the Oriental Churches as well. It's not just the west that has disregarded the east but the east has also disregarded the west.
Im not catholic but after hearing father Tom speak i can see why he’s a FB sensation 😂
And the Voice of Reason needs some Kleenex 😂 God bless you sir!
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can a Byzantine Catholic pray to the Virgin Mary?(especially La Virgen De Guadalupe)
Of course. It's still a Catholic church, after all.
@@3ggshe11s i saw the video of the byzantine catholic church, and then when the priest part came in that he was married, i was in shock, i was raised roman catholic and my mom said it was a sin for preist to marry so, why are they married if it’s a sin?
@@xcell6459 Depends on the rite. Simple as that.
Yes they can. The Byzantine Catholic church near me has a Lady of Gudalupe image outside in the front
As long as one's yoke is tied to the "vicar of Christ" one can only be pulled in the direction of the world. Byzantine Catholicism is but a step away from Orthodoxy which maintains the true faith of the apostles passed throughout the ages. Come home brethren, the Holy Mother Church is waiting to embrace you.
come home to rome. Get on the bark of peter. Matthew 16:18-19
You took the words right out of my mouth, why have an appetizer of the true church when you can have the meal. Orthodoxy is beautiful.
@@jrtoler69 orthodoxy is indeed beautiful but it is not the “full meal” I am open to it but I’m not convinced on two major things. 1. Eastern Orthodoxy is not universal. It is sectioned by nationality for example the Greek orthodox and Russian they share the name “Orthodox” but are basically two different churches and thus does not fulfill the characteristics of the church of Christ, (Universal) you all keep anathematizing everyone including yourselfs lol 2. Say what you want but the Orthodox Church did not bring Christ to the world. Let’s be real. Catholic missionaries went all over the world that is why you will find cities named after Catholic saints all over. There is catholic martyr blood spilled in every part of the world. That’s a historical fact. So the orthodox did not fulfill the commandment of Jesus Christ when he said to go and make disciples of every nation. The Catholic church built western civilization.
@@DR-nw3jn actually you’re wrong, they are universal. It’s different languages for different areas but they all carry the same belief. There is even a western rite Orthodox Church now aswell. And you’re right the west to did start evangelizing first in America. I think you forget the split caused a lot of issues for Orthodoxy, then there was the Roman sack of Constantinople where the crusaders killed men and children and raped the nuns on the alters. Then the ottomans took over Constantinople. The Orthodox Church did bounce back though, and now you see ALOT of converts in America. Just because the Catholics have more doesn’t make them the “true” church. And you say the Catholic Church is universal, it really wasn’t. When the Catholic Church got to America is was also segregated by language as well. Not to mention now you have pre Vatican 2 Catholics, Trad Catholics, Eastern Catholics who thinks that the Niceness Creed should be restored to the original. So where exactly is the unity? There are much more differences I could mention.
@@jrtoler69Vatican 2 Catholics are same as traditional Catholics. Traditional just prefer traditional latin rite while most prefer novus ordo. Not a big deal. I sometimes attened byzantine rite and nobody thinks that they need to change the creed to original. Everything is bound by council of Florence. Unity is present only in Catholic church you have had multiple schism amongst urself and frankly still are (Moscow-Consantinopol 2018).
I wanted to be nice as I am hopeful of church union one day. But this is straight up cultural appropriation and ecumenism.
The culture, heritage and aesthetic of the Byzantine Empire is tied to the Eastern Orthodox church and not something you can just use because it looks cool. Unless you are an historic church community that was intimidated and pressured into communion with Rome during the Crusades and are historically a Byzantine remnant community like the Melkite church, then you have no business to utilise Byzantine aesthetic and culture if it is not for a purpose that is in agreement with the authority of the Byzantine legacy and Byzantine rite worship which is the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Even here in Greece where we are descendants of the Byzantines, we don't have any such thing as Byzantine rite Catholicism that is in communion with Rome. The areas of Greece which were under colonial Venetian rule have Catholic communities of Greeks who are Roman Catholic in their church aesthetic and culture. Even though they were originally Byzantine Orthodox Christians, they don't even carry over Byzantine cultural aesthetic into their Catholicism. So who is anyone else to do so?
Byzantine rite Catholicism is straight up an affront on the Eastern Orthodox Church.
“Yes, Lord, I know, but even the dogs live on the scraps that fall from their master's table”
I have an ucranian catholic church 20 minutes from home and a byzantine catholic church around 45 from home. I feel a bit intimidated going to the ucranian church as a hispanic. Might choose the byzantine church instead.