Differences between Religious or Diocesan Priests?
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I went through this dilemma in my discernment. In the end, I chose to remain with the Augustinian friars (OSA), and thanks be to God, I was just ordained priest last Saturday. Please pray for me 🙏
Thank you so much, Father.
Prayers for you, Father. 🙏
Thank you for heeding His call, Father. And may God's Light always shine on your path and keep you safe from the darkness.
I live in a community where the parish is run under the Augustinian Order and there's also a monastery near the church for the Augustinian Nuns of St. Rita of Cascia
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Pray for our diocese. Our bishop died in February. As a teenager, I only met him a few times. But he was the bishop who confirmed me. He had a huge impact on me, though! Rest in peace, Bishop Peter.
Praying for him.
Praying for him. You seem like a very thoughtful person, our world needs more people like you.
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Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him.
Ive never met ny Bishop.😮
This video came at the perfect time. Father, im currently discerning the Diocesan pristhood. Thank you very much, very informative.
I’m currently discerning the priesthood! Wanting to be a religious one🙏 God bless
Will keep you in my prayers. God bless!
God bless you on your decision!
@@opencurtin Thank you so much🙏 may His blessings also pour upon you ❤️
I think that’s wonderful! 🥰
May God bless you in your Discernment and open your heart to whatever God has prepared for your Vocation!!
Pray for vocations across the world. Our diocese has 1 priest for every thousand parishioners, and most priests are centered in one city.
And please pray for our Bishop, Stephen D Parkes. He’s relatively young for a bishop and I think he’s got a very good future ahead of him!
Bishop Parkes used to be a priest in our diocese, the Diocese of Orlando. His brother is also a bishop, the Diocese of St. Petersburg. There are several young Bishops in the US, I think the youngest is in his late 40's. You have a wonderful Bishop!
My Dad's oldest brother was a Franciscan Priest, served here in NM after Second World War.
His name was Father Fray Angelico Chávez and along with his priestly duties , he was also a historian. Having worked on Church history and Genealogy of NM. My uncle was remarkable and he loved serving God, Country and all the folks that he crossed paths with.
I absolutely enjoy the knowledge and wisdom that you share with us. Thank you Father Casey.
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That’s so incredible! May God bless you and your family❤️🙏
Thank you Father Casey!! As a recent convert, I had a hard time understanding this concept. You were clear and concise and answered all my questions in under 7 minutes. I’m writing a novel and my third book will have a pious but poor Catholic community and now I understand how to write Father Manuel’s character accurately. Blessings from North Carolina, USA
This is why I like your channel. You explain facts about our faith and religion. Preaching is important of course but history and background of our faith are important and interesting as well.
God bless you Fr and all the religious men and women in our church.
I have been a Catholic all my life, and I wasn't even aware of the distinction in the priesthood, between diocesan and religious priests. Thank you, Father Casey, for this informative look into the priesthood. Please do more of these types of videos, covering various structural aspects of our Church. This is so fascinating.
I love how beautiful our church is!
Well said, Fr, Casey. Blessings on you and your priestly life. (from a diocesan priest brother)
I'm a Catholic since birth and this is a question i always have in my mind. Thank you for making this video! Praying for all those called in the vocation of Holy Orders
Me too. God bless all the clergymen and missionaries.
Got that long time ago. It is good to hear it again. Long live the Church and it will. Amen.
Thank you Fr Casey for the great content as alway. I just made my Profession in March as a 3rd order Franciscan. I feel my spiritual life has improved on this journey.
I live in a town under a diocesan priest with the church in the town center, however the neighborhood that I belong is under the parish of a religious order (Order of St. Augustine). Our town has 42 neighborhoods called "barangay". Parishioners living within and near the town center usually attends the mass at the diocesan church. As from the barangay where I belong, I attend the mass at the parish run by the OSA since I live just about 10-15 mins walk from the church. Parishioners of both churches can attend mass either of the two parishes. The OSA Priests can also celebrate mass at the diocesan church when the diocesan priests were not available.
I grow up with Religious Priests and when I was discerning Priesthood I was immediately inclined towards Religious and yes I am considering Religious Life but not as a priest anymore but as a Lay Religious! Keep praying for me 🙏🏽🙏🏽
We were very blessed to have Fr. Joachim Giermek with us after his time as the Minister General of the Conventual Franciscans. He brought great wisdom and had such a gentle spirit. He is sorely missed.
This was excellent.
Fr Casey, I don’t mind you doing a breakdown on every Hersey known to the church. It should be fun!
i'd like to have that too, so i can share it concisely
Every denomination and the hersey
@@anthonysafo473I recommend “usefulcharts” family tree of Christian denominations video. It provides an overview of every major Christian denomination and their fundamental beliefs, as well as: the great schism, Eastern, Oriental, and Catholic communions, and the Development of Protestantism. Very interesting stuff!
It is not always clear what is or isn't a Heresy. Heresy is opposing the Church doctrine. However, some issues typically predicated on conscious maybe judged by some as Heresy when many of us say that is on the individuals conscious and not on our judgement of their actions or their conscious. For example I do not thing Euthanasia is a violation of sanctity of life. And I not so sure sanctity of life is doctrine as much as it is a teaching designed to achieve doctrine. If one practiced euthanasia did they take an innocent life, or did they aid themselves in ending needless suffering. Note also the action is not a teaching and thus is not leading others which is also and important issue. Before anyone retorts please consider a large group claimed to be scholars and Priests signed a letter acclaiming Pope Francis of Heresy.
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The difference is,
The church magisterium Affirms it as a grave evil. So we are obliged to accept it
I know I'm not your intended audience, but I can't thank you more from the bottom of my heart! You've made someone who is confused by these elements, much happier and more confident to engage with my Catholic peers. Intended or not, you've made it easier for people across the glode to be friends. All my love dude.
In Austria, many religious priests - especially of the old monasterian orders like the Benedictines - have to combine both, since many monasteries are responsible for a great number of parishes, either incorporated by the order or entrusted to them by the bishops.
It is often hard for these priests to balance their vocation to be a monk with the needs of their parishes.
Thank you Father, been waiting for something like this.
This was a wonderful video! I had no idea of the differences between diocesan and religious priests - now I know!
Many thanks, and may God bless you!
Thank you for this video Fr. Casey 🙏🙏
Thank you for this Father Casey, this was a question I had recently as I have been discerning the priesthood
May the Holy Spirit guide you through your discernment 🙏
Same.
Thank you Father awesome video.
Fantastic explanation, Father. Loved the ending.☺
Thank you for this explanation!
Thank you Father Casey! Love how you explain everything so clearly.
Always enjoy your educating videos, thank you love from Canada 🇨🇦
I recognize the priest in the photo at 4:22 - he was a parochial vicar in my parish growing up!
My uncle is a diocesan priest, while I do communications work for a Franciscan order of Friars. I've learned the differences over the past couple of years, but this is a great explainer video, Fr. Casey!
Thank you, Father. I've been a Catholic for all of my life (except for the months before my baptism) and this is the first time I've heard this explained so clearly. God bless you!
The Franciscans left our St. Francis parish in Sacramento CA. I miss them but the two diocesan priests that we have had since have been good men. Franciscans were special but the community remains.
Finally, an explanation I can wrap my head around! Thank you!
Here in Mexico there is a sort of friendly "rivalry" between the Legionaries of Christ and the Crusaders of Christ the King, two different priestly congregations. Both the legionaries and the crusaders are very active in religious universities, as well as in organising peregrinations, missions, and other activities.
Very interesting! Thank you for explaining that :-)
I attended a High School run by a Benedictine monastery. While the monks would usually be in habits during the regular school day, it wasn’t uncommon to see them in a collar on occasion as well, especially if they were filling in at a parish. It was also pretty common to see them in regular street clothes depending on what their jobs at the monastery or school were.
This was very informative Father! I always wondered how we got our priests, our current priest is from Nigeria and before Fr Maurice, we had Fr Shoby from India! Both amazing!!! ❤ your channel and content, Kristy from Missouri 😃🙏🙏🙏
Beautiful explained ❤💯
Thank you for this wonderful video. You explain difficult concepts very clearly.
Thank you father casey for the great content.
This was such a good video Farther, well done . And greetings from Southern California 😊.
Thank you for explaining this so clearly! Greetings from St. Marys Kentucky
Fascinating discussion, Father. Your tackling questions like this is my favorite of your content!
excellent video, clear, precise and exciting. Congrats brother.
Very informative Fr 😊
great insight Fr Kaycy
Gracias por la información fraile Casey. Saludos desde México :)
Father Casey , please make videos on eastern Catholic priests ! And the differences and history
Interesting, Fr Casey 👍🏻.
Thx for info
Let's be honest, the outfit looks so cool
I saw the Parish I grew up in in your video! Immaculate Conception in Amenia, NY.
Hello Fr. Casey! I see our Bishop at the beginning of your video! Bishop Noonan from the Diocese of Orlando.🙂
May Holy Spirit be with all of you, God Bless ! 🎉❤🎉
Thanks for this informative video, I had a group of alter servers who wanted to know the difference between diocesan and religious priests. Am happy that I answered correctly depending on ur presentation. Pray for me....shall be a priest in July 2024
Thank you for explaining this, Father. As a neophyte, I didn't get why different priests wore different "uniforms" and didn't get a clear answer online.
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This is awesome. The only thing I'd add is the history of the priesthood. The offices of Episkopos (Bishop), Presbuteros (Priest), and Diakonos (Decon) goes back to the time of the Apostles. The Apostles were the first Episkopos, which in the bible usually gets translated as "overseer" As we see on the beginning of Acts chapter 6 this is how Bishops were Ordained. And we see through documented history that this is how all Bishops have been Ordained for over 2000 years by another Bishop. So every Bishop in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are successors of the Apostles. As far as the history of the Franciscan Order, Fr. Casey in this video would be a much better person to explain. As much as I'd like to be a Secular Franciscan, I'm currently not available on Tuesday evenings to attend the Franciscan meetings.
2:02 I remember, Johnston, once bishop of Springfield-Cape Girardeau. More of a Bishop Rice fan myself
this is great explanation, in my country, the religious priests are called "Monk priests" and they live in monasteries and report to their monastery "president" (for a lack of a better word)
while Diocesan priests are called "Parish priests", when they are ordained, they are immediately assigned an altar (parish) to server, they usually live in the parish that they are currently serving and they remain within the boundaries of their Bishop's authority.
I had no idea wow .!
But in reality, the relationship is often not as ideal as shown here. In my home parish, the Diocesan and religious orders play tug of war to control "richer" parishes, in order to fulfill their respective income. Not as bad as in Medjugorje, but I really hope and pray that they can resolve it amicably...
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Priests of a religious order are also called Regular Clergy meaning they live according to a Rule such as the Rule of St Benedict the rule of St Agustine etc.
The title is seldom used in the US Church.
Great video! I was called to the stability of the secular priesthood. BTW, I've never worn a clergy shirt and suit. I've always worn a cassock in my 34 years of priesthood.
In my simple understanding, the religious priest is the one whom design and build the house. While the diocese priest is the one whom keep maintaining the house. Both have different roles, but both are needed to keep the house is still in good condition.
I respect both and we need both. They both are our an example of being a right followers of the Jesus Christ for us. We pray for both and thanks for your faithfulness to our Lord Jesus Christ. Please pray for us as a Christian’s.🙏
❤ From the holy land is was very good video
4:54 OMG FATHER JOHN SHOUTOUT
Hi Father Casey, can you make a video on the early church fathers?
Excellent video I have shared this on social media
I have asked to consider the priesthood but feel afraid why me I am not good enough what if I mess it up
Have you read Saint Anthony's "Sermons for Sundays and Festivals"?
i always thought the black white collar was just modern, like ties or dress suilts lol learnt something today
Thanks for this Fr Casey! The photo in 0:03 might be confusing as Jesuits, which is a religious order, wear that attire as well. :)
Fr. Casey, I’ve been told that an abbot has the same ecclesiastical position as a bishop and may administer certain sacraments reserved for a bishop, such as confirmation outside of giving a new convert the sacraments of initiation at the Easter Vigil in a parish and ordination of priests and deacons. He may also wear the miter and carry the shepherd’s crook at church ceremonies or Mass. do provincials of orders also have this ecclesiastical position?
I like your explanation, can you do the difference between a Catholic Church and Catholic Mission Church?
one important thing to note is that not all white collar priests are catholic. so be careful out there. the church of England is one example although I've seen grey attire with white collar as well.
Also, most Lutheran ministers wear a collar, as do many unitarian ministers.
Many secular wedding officiants wear a collar. My daughter married a protestant boy, where they live in Vegas,and they went to one of those chapels. Their wedding officiants was a lady who wore a collar.
I'm also a wedding officiant, but in Alabama. I don't wear a collar as I can't be ordained in my own religion (I am Catholic and a lady) but I am a notary, which is what is required in Alabama. I did get "ordained" by the Universal Life Church,by filling out a form online, before the notary requirement, so I could marry someone I know who wanted a secular wedding. I wore a pretty pink skirt suit, and I never try to look like a religious official, because I'm not. That lady in Vegas wasn't either, she was "ordained" from the same online form as me. I guess she just thought of it differently, but she wore a suit just like every parish priest I've ever seen (except Fr Brennan who wore a cassock )
Edit: Calvin, on The Lotus Eaters podcast, is a priest in the Old Catholic Church in England and wears a white tan collar like regular Catholic priests.
@@maryhildreth754 If you're Catholic you should know that the only wedding officiant in the eyes of God is a priest...
@@mph1ish but in the eyes of the state of Alabama, it's a notary. I haven't married any Catholics anyway. There aren't any in my small town, other than us. Plus, even Catholics have to have the marriage license notarized nowadays.
@@mph1ish Actually, in the Sacrament of Matrimony it is the partners themselves who confer the sacrament. The priest is the official church witness.
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Thanks for this, Father Casey! Could you also please talk about how much say religious priests and diocesan priests have in where they’re assigned? Particularly in terms of someone who’s maybe being called to religious life, but wants to stay nearby their elderly parents. Also, if you’re immune compromised, can you ask to be assigned somewhere lower risk, germ-wise? And can any type of priest bring their pet, like a cat, with them (to where they’d be living)? I hope those aren’t stupid questions 😅
From Religious Life (Salesians) to Diocesan way of Life.
during the Spanish rule in the Philippines, friars made sure to seize power over the parishes/dioceses against secular/diocesan priests, even having some of them executed. :) they also made sure the locals know they were not to be messed with and that the they know their place as second-rate citizens and peasants. even the Spanish government cannot do anything about them.
Thank you so much. Could you explain the difference between the "order" (like Franciscans) and the "Company", the Jesuits, to be specific? Thanks again and God bless!
Thank you for this video Father.
Quick question, why are there religious priests who are Bishops?
I know of a priest of the OFM Cap. Who is a Bishop.
Would be interested about the lives of contemplative religious. Do they move about as you describe?
Also what are the lines of authority for sisters who serve in a parish?
wow thank you for that... i am not a Catholic.. but i am a Christian from the outside... its informative.. of things such as these... Why did you go the route you did? The easy answer was "called" but ... how do you know a calling if there kind of is a structure to it? how would you be called to a structure?
It's rare for a priest to be in his church for decades anymore. The present church I attend has had 3 different pastors!and I have only been here 8 years
From these comments, I feel like I am the only one who doesn't understand. Where do religious priests get their authority from? How do you become an ordained priest, if not from a bishop?
I never knew there was a difference. Interesting.
I've always wondered why one of our more... (in)famous professor-priests at the Ateneo de Manila, the Jesuit's flagship uni in the Philippines, could be so open about butting heads with the Provincial.
I always thought Provincials were, like, top of the heap kind of thing. As Fr. Casey said, it's kind of like the guy got, er... well, not exactly voluntold, I guess, to be the overseer for their brothers for a time, haha, but something like that?
Thank you for the clear-up, Fr. Casey.
I definitely feel a calling to be a religious..... I believe in absolute simplicity, I don't matter as much as the well being of all matters..... Jesus is Lord , ..... I wish I could ... But my past mistakes are unforgivable, even to the church...
Father Casey,I have been a devout Catholic ALL my life and I am so very confused now. So,hierarchy wise,there is a Bishop,who is an ordained priest,and on the other,there is Provincial who you say,may or may not be ordained? So,may or may not be a priest? The picture you showed (which I took to be the Provincial,wore a collar). Please, please help me understand. Will wait for your reply and thank you Father Casey.
Diocesan priests are in difficult situations today in places where the bishop is off the rails and they have to obey. There are priests without assignments because they do not agree with what is coming out of Rome, and hence their dioceses today. We must pray for them not to lose heart.
I am a member of a Diocese that is in he middle of going away. The Diocese of Stubenville is to be merged back into the Columbus Diocese it came from in 1944.
Even with Franciscan University there?
Time stamp 2:03 that was our Bishop!!!!
Father, could you please explain our views on Trinitarian-ism vs other denominations?
Did Father Casey mention that secular priests now called diocesan priests take vows of obedience and chastity but not poverty while religious priests take all three vows, obedience, chastity and poverty?
A video on nuns would be great. I am not quite sure what their exact role is.
What happened to quote upon friar review?