"Because so many people have created airtight ideological frameworks into which every new set of facts must be somehow stuffed, the Russia-Ukraine war is cast as simply another aspect of the New World Order, or the World Economic Forum, or some other internationalist scheme. Thus, this cannot simply be an expansionist war by Russian invaders seeking to occupy parts of Ukraine that they feel entitled to for political and historical reasons. It must primarily be about whatever we have already been talking about." - Jonathon Van Maren, europeanconservative.com/articles/essay/russia-ukraine-and-the-fogs-of-culture-war/
Yeah, basically. For us, it can only be that because those are the stakes for us. Its different for the Ukrainians. I would support them more overtly, but I cannot because of how the situation plays back home. This makes me as uncomfortable like most of our wars because we will support child predators and secular progressives to stop Islamic Jihad, but then we will spin it the other way to support Jihadis when they attack communists/authoritarians. The worse case of this for me is how we basically support the genocides of the Armenians now because we want to support Ukraine and Turkey against Russian, even though their values are really opposite aligned to ours where as Armenian isn't.
@@chervon5773 Hey, thanks for this. I will give it a deeper read. I think Okiophobia is not the right term. I've always hated this framing game where I'm supposed to be labelled as fearful or hateful of some group because their ideology stinks. I don't think the Right hates the West. They hate the one's in the West who hate the West. Ie. Any support of Putin is an enemy of my enemy and not out of actual disdain for their country's values. I suppose it is then apt I guess to struggle over what one's country means. In terms of the Ukraine conflict it feels like I'm being called unpatriotic for liking freedom. That's not what the Left is proposing. It's anti-freedom, a forced agenda against the nature of the concept itself. I think something that maybe shows differently across generation is that in my zoomer/millennial background I was constantly told in school that what America did was wrong. ei in WW2 to imprison Japanese people, that it was wrong to kill the Native Americans and so on. Not out of wokism, but because it is wrong to unjustly kill or imprison people. Now we are being asked by a distant, corporate, governmental, elite conglomerate, claiming to be the small victim of every problem, that the rules must be broken, again, for the billionth time, to be the one's who makes the rules. This troubles me greatly because if this war was to be true and actually just as is proposed then it would mean all of our values are wrong and do not actually exist in reality. What really exists then is the horror of the mere power struggle between forces who do not do things on principles, but only for material gain.
This seems to be the more relevant line from the article: "The fundamental tragedy of progressive and media malfeasance is that the very real plight of millions of Ukrainians is being lost in the social media roar." Part of that media malfeasance is the repetition of false claims (mobile crematoriums) and the portrayal of the Russian people as cartoonishly evil and simple (Russians invaded because they are jealous). It's also not helped by defending apparently odious behavior like closing churches and by straw manning people's positions when you're supposed to be "steel manning" them.
Thanks! Друкую ! I really appreciated this one ☝️ . This is my church and my family and this is my favorite church father so to speak. Metropolitan archbishop Borys Gudziak is an inspiration to his fellow American 🇺🇸 born Ukrainian catholic priests, clergymen, laymen, members of the church and beyond into the Ukrainian Catholic University and I internationally. I love that you had him on the show. God Bless .
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much fir this video!!! I m Ukrainian and it gives me pain how many of western world now doesn't understand the historical issues between Ukraine and Russia, this video gives a lot of truth about the situation in the churches of Ukraine.
I want to thank his Eminence for this opportunity to hear his perspective about what’s going on. I appreciate this and am praying for the war to end. Amen
This was amazing ! He’s the leader of my Ukrainian Catholic Church ! I could never have imagined he would make it on to your podcast which I love and listen to! Too bad it took such a crisis. But never the less huge respect for getting Metropolitan Gudziak !! Wow bravo!
For everybody who ever asks the question "How does this war end", Bishop Gudziak has the right, and only correct, answer @50:57 "It ends with the defeat of Evil". Amen.
I’ve actually helped as an altar boy for one of his liturgies at Holy Family Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Shrine in Washington DC where I grew up ! This is such a surprise and pleasure to see and hear him on one of my favorite niche RUclips podcasts.
There is so much more going on in Ukraine than just a holy war. I can understand the religious focus they are taking but on an economic global scale there is so much more. What is sad is that people are caught in the crossfire. It’s tragic.
I can’t believe I missed this 5 months ago, what a treasure I’m downloading it . Thank you 🙏! Христос воскрес ! Воїстино воскрес ! Christ has risen ! Indeed he has risen !
That was a great question towards the end about what happens with Ukrainians after the war. Where do we gravitate I also wonder about this. I love my country so much, it's so unique. I thought before the war, listening to a lot of people like Tucker, how lucky we are here not to be woke, but not to be Russia as well. We are just the golden middle. I like our mainstream, I like what my sons are thought at school - to be patriots, to now our tradition, our Christian traditions as well. We still say Merry Christmas! and Christ is born! And Christ has risen for Easter to everyone in the street. And mostly get the proper answer. People know nothing about the languages in Ukraine and I'm tired of all the selfjustification. What Russia was doing for decades to create this problem, to come "saving" Russian speakers later. It was a long-playing plan to destroy Ukrainians or other people's and create homosoveticus. With no language, no culture, no language, no mother tongue. I can understand that outsiders can be just over, or indifferent or whatever. But they also want to feel right and holy.
I know that I, for one, will keep giving to aid Ukraine through United24 even after victory. Ukraine needs friends after the war as well as during it. Someday, I want to visit a beautiful and rebuilt Ukraine, thriving and filled with spirit.
A thing people don't understand as well is that our regions of Central and Eastern Europe have always been rife with forced movements of population to make people assimilate into the Russian Empire. My mother was born in Belarus, both of my grandparents were born in Ukraine, and some of my great-grandparents were born in current Lithuania. But, they are all Polish ethnically, linguistically and culturally. By forcing people out of their territories, planting native Russians in those regions, Russia can claim it was theirs all along. It's a very effective tactic to strip people away from their national unity and grow the empire.
@@nellyf.3153 exactly. And still some foreigner hears a glimpse of something, decides now they know really how it is, how they understand all the history...
I think you can be unequivocally and morally sure in your support of Ukraine while also not cartoonizing Russia and their reasons for invading. A "steel man" argument should not be only a sentence long.
Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep. And yes, the West is obviously using Ukrainian to hurt Russia because Russia is the last Christian superpower that defends children from perverts and pedophiles by law. Anyone who isn’t completely biased or blind can see that
@@fireballgarcia1281 They didn’t prepare good reasons for invading because they thought it would be over in 3 days. When the strong Ukrainian resistance made it impossible, they started coming up with all kinds of wild reasons after the fact and pushing them with vigor across their media and russian-influenced media personalities around the world.
@@peroercegovac1973 that is the point, unfortunately, the Church shouldn't be getting involved in a political war, they should be the neutral on both sides. Really sad.
I understand the argument regarding Russia's negative actions. However, even the bishop acknowledges that Ukraine does not have citizens sleeping on the streets. Therefore, why is it incorrect to suggest providing shelter and support for the 500,000 homeless Americans and the 37 million individuals living in poverty instead of allocating hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine? In my opinion, this is the strongest argument that the father should consider. The bishop is only using emotional appeals and even resorts to using the example of the priest's family, who are present right beside him, in a crude way.
Agreed! I personally cannot speak for, or against this war. I will admit that I do not understand the politics behind it. Though I am not so nieve as to say, Ukraine good...Russia bad. One more little thing I will add... I respect Tucker Carlson...I think he is a good and decent man...I guarantee that he doesnt want to see anyone die in this war, from either side...and I would never personally attack him and call him a lier! He absolutely could be wrong about something, just as well as the next guy...but to call a man a lier...that's pretty serious! I am now suspicious of the initial argument!
@@rosiegirl2485 I don't know. I think the Trump Russia thing made Conservatives think Russia was good because they were so mad about the false allegations against Trump. At the end of the day, Putin does want power. Tucker should be able to separate his views some. That is sloppy journalism. When you have millions tuning in every night, you can't afford to make mistakes.
None of what these men on here have explained is why Ukraine’s President silenced opposition media and jailed his political opponents way prior to Russia’s invasion…. I say a tyrant will do tyrannical things always and only take advantage of developing politics to justify it. Pope Francis says many things in direct opposition to US policy and US sovereignty/security… should we arrest, ban, silence all Catholics???? What Zolensky is doing is wrong even if these priests in question report to a Russian patriarch..in my opinion
@@HoldYourBreat4 I think Zelensky is a puppet for American money laundering so he is likely just following orders. That still doesn't change the fact that the churches should be staying out of it and encouraging an end to the war. When the church(any church) lowers itself to the level of a politician it is a problem. That being said, Putin has prophecies of taking over the old holy Roman empire. Even many Orthodox monks etc are saying he is the one from St Paisios prophecy. So he isn't stopping anytime soon. There are other prophecies as well. Not good to.mix prophecy and politics...leads to world wars...
@@crunchycousin5986 agreed on the puppet point… I’m new to the other statements… what would you recommend I read up on to get more knowledge on these prophesies and Putins involvement in fulfilling them?
I've always seen a great deal of respect for Poland among Catholics. It is often viewed as one of the most faithful Catholic countries in the world and, of course, it was the birthplace of Pope Saint John-Paul II. That doesn't make the Poles infallible, of course, but I do find it very interesting that the Poles are among the staunchest supporters of Ukraine in the current war. It is instructive because the Poles, far more than those of us in the United States, know very well both the Ukrainians and the Russians, having seen some of the best and worst of each nation. It seems to me that the opinion of the Poles in this matter has some weight for fellow Catholics.
@@Markusctfldl That's a vile libel to make against the Polish people. There is no evidence of anything like a widespread ethnic hatred of Russians. Animosity for the governments of the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation does not translate to hatred of Russian people. Is it offensive to you that the Poles resent the decades of oppression, torture, and murder they suffered under the USSR? Is it a problem, in your mind, that the Poles look with with suspicion and disdain upon Putin's belligerent, expansionist nationalism? And the Poles are not alone in Eastern and Central Europe when it comes to how they view the Russian state of past and present. Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, and others have no fondness for what the Soviet Union did in the past nor for what Russia is doing in the present.
@@steelytemplar Not really libel, just a fact. However you want to justify it is fine, but it is an ethnic hatred. You'll find they are common in Eastern Europe. Just visit the Balkans.
@@Markusctfldl It is not a fact simply by your stating it to be so. You haven't proven your claim at all. And please note that you had best be able to prove a widespread ethnic hatred which rises to the level of murder. That is what you claim and that is what you must prove.
Wow! I learned so many new facts and interesting things about the war! Thanks Borys! And Matt, another great interview as always; keep up the effort my man! Amen!
The Ukrainian catholic theology is fascinating having grown up in it I always preferred it to roman Catholicism of my schooling . I u der stand the politics are important to discuss at this time but please consider having more Ukrainian catholic byzantines on to speak about the theology and faith how it survived ww2 Polinization, Austria empire and Russification but mostly the faith and theology thanks !!!!
Matt, I have so appreciated your recent podcasts (new to the show). Would it be possible for you to post some of the "reliable sources" about Ukrainian current events that the Archbishop alluded to at timestamp 1:02:35. Maybe this is for your locals supporters? I get that. My wife and I will pray about that, as well as praying for Ukraine (and for your family). By the way, we have a Ukrainian emigree where I work. I can confirm one of the Archbishop's comments that no Ukrainian says to abandon ANY of the Ukrainian territorial integrity. That is what my colleague told me months ago. She too told me to be careful about the information coming out of Carlson's show...such a shame .
"Ukraine" was enlarged by Communists. It includes almost 50% ethnic Russian people. 51% of the ppl of Ukraine voted for Yanukovych. The crazy ultra-nationalists overthrew the rightful president, using FOREIGN FUNDS (Victoria Nuland bragged of $5 Billion) to remove the choice of the majority. Kiev is not representative of the whole country. In fact, the majority of the GDP is in the east, the lands taken from Russia and given to the crazies in Kiev under Communism to keep them quiet. All Ukraine had to do was be reasonably fair and equitable. For 7 years Kiev faked going along with a peaceful end to the hostilities. Kiev has EARNED the loss of half of its territory. They squandered their own precious human resources to dominate their cousins in the south and east. 100,000 to 200,000 ethnic Ukrainian soldiers are dead and roughly equivalent are maimed as a result of the crazies that took over after the EuroMaidan coup.
I am more than sure that the good Archbishop is a very honorable and trustworthy man, and it is clear that he loves the Church and its people. However, the situation in Ukraine is simply not this one sided. He cited mobile crematoriums which are not confirmed, and those allegations are even looked at with skepticism from Ukraine's more ardent defenders. He may be totally correct when he judges the Russian patriarch; but the geopolitical situation between Russia and Ukraine, and between Russia and NATO at large, is certainly not as simple as the one sentence steel man argument that was presented in Russia's favor. Obviously this is not a political show, however this topic requires a well rounded and nuanced view regardless of whatever side one may be on.
@kalashnik3 As horrific as that sounds, that's certainly not proof of a military unit of mobile crematoriums. We shouldn't exaggerate claims. It only discredits the truth.
The crematorium question is a complete red herring. We're digging up huge mass graves and burned civilians! This is holocaust level stuff! What nuance? Do we need to nuance Hitler and the Nazi party? Do we need to nuance the invasion, rape, and massacre of innocent civilians belonging to a sovereign nation? How thick do you have to be?
@evolutionist79 Your emotional response is exactly why we need a more nuanced approach. Half of the reports from the region are out right false, and the other half are propaganda for either side.
I’m certainly against the war in Ukraine, but the presentation of most topics here were pretty simplistic and one-sided: the circumstances of the creation of the Ukrainian Catholic Church, the relationship between the ROC and the KGB, the history of Ukraine over the last 20 years and the USA’s heavy involvement in shaping recent events to name a few. It’s one of the most complicated global situations going on right now and none of us are getting the full picture presented to us.
@@miken2604 You need to use better logic and better reasoning. Brits voted to be in the EU, then they voted to leave. 1991 was a long time ago. Ukraine elected Yanukovych in 2010 but the foreign run nutjobs didn't want to wait for the next election cycle to 'vote him out'. I bet they knew they didn't have the votes to vote him out. The votes in Crimea and Donbas reflect the change in the thoughts of the people of these regions after the violent overthrow of the legally elected president. Victoria Nuland CHOSE the interim president for the Kiev junta. Forces loyal to the junta in Kiev have been bombing Donbass for 6 years since they refused to go with the leaders of the coup in Kiev. Those folks were far more like our founding fathers than the late night torch paraders in Kiev.
Not to mention the fact that while Patriarch Kirill is being demonized (and rightly so it would seem), Patriarch Bartholomew, who is buddy-buddy with Joe Biden, gets a free pass despite his meddling in Ukraine, and legitimizing a band of largely defrocked and excommunicated "clergy" who form the Orthodox Church of Ukraine. Most Orthodox autocephalous and autonomous churches still do not recognize OCU as canonical.
Something about this interview doesn’t sit right with me. I’m going to have to watch it again because I was listening to it while working on the computer.
@@hodapp512 I think the attack on Tucker by the Archbishop made me suspicious of his argument. This war has nothing to do with Tucker. His job is to report on it, and he gives his honest opinion on how he views it. Calling a man a lier is serious business. Hearing the Archbishop attacking Tucker over and over, lowered my trust, and my opinion of this Archbishop. Which affected this entire interview, because I sadly didn't want to hear what he had to say!
@@rosiegirl2485 Yeah, His Excellency basically justified outlawing the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine w/o any sort of due process, and Matt called the view "reasonable."
Please list the alternative media links the Metropolitan mentioned he would give you. thank you. and where to purchase the Archbishop's book on the history of the catholic church in Ukraine.
I'm not completely sure the steel man was the best it could have been. I believe Ukraine was even seeking nukes right before the invasion. No mention was made of the govt coup in Ukraine in 2014. While Ukraine certainly is the victim, it is not so simple from a matter of prudence.
@@peroercegovac1973 What did I say that was a lie or falsehood? It's pretty presumptuous to call a random stranger on RUclips a "liar." Charity would have demanded you at least say I was misinformed. At best, you could've just pointed out what was false or misleading about something I said, without attacking me personally. If you knew me personally or had to talk to me face-to-face, would you be making personal accusations? I already admitted that Ukraine was the victim. But was it prudent for Ukraine to seek NATO membership? Understandable, but prudent? Was it prudent for Ukraine to talk about acquiring nukes? Did anyone stop to think how Russia would react to that? Hardly anyone mentions that Russia invaded in 2014 in reaction to a coup that installed a Ukraine govt. less friendly to Russia. I'm NOT saying Russia is justified in its actions; I'm saying that PRUDENT people take into account the likely reactions of others, whether those reactions are justified or not. I don't know all the details, and obviously, as an American, I don't have the same interests as a Ukrainian, but it's worth asking if the actions taken by Ukraine and NATO before 2014 and 2022 were worth the price of the present war and threat of nuclear warfare. I ask the question because I am not an ideologue pushing one side or the other, and I've learned that foreign policy is almost always more complicated than it appears to many.
@@peroercegovac1973 btw, I do get the point that you made (before attacking me personally). Your point seems to be that Ukraine has every right to seek nuclear weapons since Russia broke the Accord first. I have no desire to dispute that. But there is a difference between what one has a right to do and what is most prudent to do. And I'm not even claiming that I know for certain what the most prudent course of action was. Possession of nuclear weapons seems to be a good deterrent to invasion, so it makes sense for Ukraine to have wanted them to avoid further invasion. But it also makes sense for Russia to perceive, rightly or wrongly, that possession as a threat and choose to invade before that happens. We can decry Russian paranoia all we want, but it still remains a fact that needs to be handled with thoughtfulness and prudence, not ideological characterizations (as practical as those can for a country at war).
So was Russia supposed to just sit by and watch children and the elderly be dismembered forever? Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep.
I don't doubt that these men are trying to do good, but they're doing more harm than good. When you try to explain away things that should be criticized (the forced shuttering of churches) or resort to overly simplistic explanations (russia invaded because they're envious of how awesome ukraine is) it just destroys your credibility and leads people to embrace the opposite view. Why can't you just say that yes, forcing churches closed without trials or evidence is bad but that doesn't put them on the same level as russia. Why can't you just admit that russia does have some legitimate grievances against ukraine (the shelling of civilian populations in the donbass to name one) but nothing that could justify an invasion. Why can't you say that ukraine is not perfect and its government suffers from corruption but your country doesn't have to be perfect to have a right to self determination? The constant obliteration of nuance just makes people think you're lying and from covid to ukraine, that's destroying people's ability to trust any authority even those within the church.
So was Russia supposed to just sit by and watch children and the elderly be dismembered forever? Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep.
You are repeating russian lies, which makes your comment highly questionable. First, there have been no churches shuttered in Ukraine. The russian-controlled church is merely being investigated for collaboration with Moscow in this war. Russia invaded because they want to rebuild the Russian Empire. They openly say so. Russia started the war in Donbas and has been prosecuting it for 8 years. And in recent months they have pressed every able-bodied man in that area into their survice and sent them to fight against Ukraine under threat of execution. And what does Ukraine have to do with COVID? Ukraine had the lowest rate of Covid vaccination in Europe because Ukrainians were also highly skeptical of the narrative.
If a government doesn’t stand for religious freedom and respect then I’m at a position of protest against that government. Rome, the author of intolerance, the biggest organized killer in history, and the greatest opponent to mankind having the Word of God in their own language is all of the sudden interested in human rights 🧐…. Well, how amazing is that?
What perspective do you want to get about invading a country, killing mostly people you yourself consider the same people & then persecuting Ukrainian patriots, with your man strategy during winters to make people freeze to death?
1:03-- Your Excellency, aid is good to internally displaced Ukrainians. But encouraging them to leave permanently is to turn their backs on Ukraine. Aid to the Church in Need are committed to supporting Christians to stay in their homelands. You should be too
With respect to the Archbishop, why is it Catholic Social Doctrine for the rest of the world to risk nuclear war so Ukraine can continue to pursue antagonistic foreign policy against Russia?
@@p_7ero so should Catholics across the world support that right to self determination even if it means nuclear war? Is that Catholic Social Doctrine as these guests suggest?
@@volusian95 If you had russia as your neighbor, the desire to become part of NATO is completely understandable -- perhaps you should also ask why Poland and all of the formerly Soviet Republics of the Baltic states, actually joined.
@@brettmccaw5581 Finland was fine not being part of NATO for many decades even though they share a long border with Russia. They had a neutral foreign policy, however. Same goes for Ukraine, which only started having problems once they had a coup in order to end their policy of neutrality
What he is saying is that Ukrainians are not afraid of russians using nuclear weapons against them. They would rather go through that than go back into russian slavery.
@@hodapp512 However you notice that he was talking to tens of thousands of refugees in other countries? If the people really did believe that, they would in their country fighting, not hiding out in a neighboring country waiting for the dust to settle. Also dying to defend Christ is not the same as dying to oppose Russia. Not even a close comparison.
@@davidb9639 You missed the point. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian men are not resisting. They are fleeing and hiding, and waiting for others to fight. Where are you getting your opinion from? Can you show me where in the word your opinion is reflected?
I respect the Bishop here for his office, but the "Ukraine all good, Russia all bad" trope is just goofy. He is making the fundamental mistake of not differentiating between the Ukrainian/Russian people and their governments. I feel for the innocent people affected but both governments are evil.
Well maybe because only 300 of the 40,000 of Kirill's clergy members had objected against the war, and 77% of Russians still support the war of Putin. A US general estimates 100,000 Ukrainian and 100,000 Russian soldiers and been killed with 40,000 Ukrainian civilians. - from the NYT and The Guardian. This is a lot of death for our time in 2022, its like the 1930's to 50's, when Stalin and Mao ruled.
Yes, and the Bucha massacre of civil Ukrainian population - which would make some scenes in former Yugoslavia look like kids playing - was false too, right? As a Latin American it makes me want to vomit when I see Americans falling for the Russian-KGB ideology.
@@masterchief8179 you mean the people on the street killed by artillery? Anyway, whatever happened there, you are probably not so concerned about the shelling of Donetsk, whicb serves no military purpose. I have yet to see Russians intentionally shelling civilians.
@@spmcg_ it's interesting that you have to make up something that no one has said. It's actually ~14,000 civilians since 2014. Which is true, unlike the ghost of Kiev, snake island, Zelensky asking for ammo instead of fleeing, Russian jets being shot down by rifles & yes even the crematoriums. It's all war time propoganda.
Thank you for this video. Matt. And thank you, Archbishop Gudziak and Fr. Charron for your excellent representation of the situation in Ukraine. Ukraine has a great many friends in the world and we will not let Ukraine fall to Russian aggression. The heroism and spirit of the Ukrainians as well as those who fight beside them has inspired people of countless nationalities to become invested in this fight for freedom. This is indeed a time for ordinary men and women to become heroes. God bless and protect them all. Slava Ukraini! Heroyam slava!
FORGOT ABOUT WOLYN AND SLAUGHTERING OF POLISH PEOPLE BY THE BANDERAS????? SURE YOU DID. CONVIEBIENTLY........... POLISH PEOPLE SUFFERED GREATLY FROM BOTH RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS! SLAVA TO UKRAINE????? FOR WHAT???????????? FOR MURDERING US AND TAKING OUR SOIL???????? FORGOT THAT WEST UKRAINE WAS POLAND AND YOU FORCED US FROM OUR HOMES, TOOK OUR SOIL, ANIMALS, BURNED PEOPLE AND ANIMALS ALIVE, CUTTING PEOPLE ALIVE AND MORE????? FORGOT ABOUT WOLYN??.......? YOU HORRIBLE PEOPLE! SOME ARE INNOCENT THATS TRUE BUT WHY DO YOU SAY YOU ARE ALL GREAT PEOPLE IF YOU ARE NOT AND YOU LIEING TO THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERHAPS THIS WAR WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF YOU WERE INNOCENT. AND NOW YOU RECEIVED HELP FROM POLAND, PRIORITY TO EVERYTHNIG AND ARE HARDLY EXPRESSING ANY GRATITUDE ( SOME ARE BUT...). NO, I DON'T SUPPORT PUTIN OR KILLING OF ANYONE BUT TO SAY THAT UKRAINIANS ARE TOTALY WITHOUT FAULT IS A LIE!
@@marzena3396815 I did not forget it, nor should it be forgotten. At the same time, those were the crimes of people now dead and it is for the current generations of Poland and Ukraine to reconcile with one another. And that reconciliation seems to have gone forward significantly. Now we can clearly see how the Poles are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine in their war against Russian invasion. It would be difficult to imagine a more potent image of reconciliation between two peoples than this friendship in a time of Ukraine's great need.
That is a matter of private revelation and thus does not merit such consideration. Private Revelation and devotionalism are not the faith and should not supplant the genuine practice of the faith.
It is necessary to talk about what the Poles did in these territories for 20 years, and then what they did with the Ukrainians east of Lublin! And let the Jews also tell how the Poles behaved towards them!
Gudziak is such a staunch opponent of "Russian imperialism" but he has only been able to flourish under "American imperialism". Hardly can you get a straight story from him.
33:26 "Ukraine has no interest in keeping Russians from speaking Russian". Not true! As a Romanian, I know for a fact that in 1991, in Ukraine, there were 120 schools teaching in Romanian. Now in 2022, there are at most 8 schools teaching Romanian.
I think what this shows is the epitome of why our Western values and way of thinking is basically going to die and we will have to invent new values based on our religion. Every value says that we need to support Ukraine and that also invalidates them. Russia’s crusade is the same problem we had during the crusades against the Muslim caliphates. We cannot say theologically killing heretics is wrong. We cannot say we ought not defend our national interests. We ought not colonize and spread western values. We’ve had two decades of war to show that we fail at spreading those values. I have no idea what we are supposed to do because either option means I’m condemning those who are my brothers.
@@peroercegovac1973 No. No. It's in the video. It's what the Patriarch said. He said that the Russian Patriarch declared the war a holy war. That is what the crusades of the latins were and rightly so! Done horribly, complete failures, sure! Heck, I don't even know what to think about the flag flying. Both sides fly Nazi flags, the Russian fly the Soviet flag and I don't know how I'm supposed to believe both sides are Christian when they do overtly things against it.
@@Alex.Kalashnik I did not know that. I've just seen a lot of videos of people tying people to trees and peeing on them because they are ethnic Russian. I've also heard of the war crimes committed against the Donbass region. I'm also very upset at what seems like Zelensky (I never can spell his name correctly.) or at least his military commanders, seem content to drag us in by firing missiles at Poland. Heck, I'm willing to excuse these things as they driven to base survival and to them it seems like they will and must do anything to keep Western support coming. I guess what I'm trying to also say is that we've conducted torture, made up operations and done evil stuff with our past two wars. Everyone only just barely clings to the rules and abandons them when convenient. I want the war to end, but I cannot see either manifesting peace essentially because its a civil war.
@@jimcampbell7675 You are thoroughly mistaken. I don't think we should kill heretics either. I don't like Taylor Marshall new stuff either, he was much better when he was the theology guy and did shows with Tim Gordon on TNT. I'm also not going to justify the bombing of maternity hospitals. That is obviously evil. When the USA, Russia, China, Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, etc does it. Crusades were just in their inception, but were conducted poorly and many commanders committed mortal sins in giving their orders to do evil acts. If Pope Francis called a crusade like the Patriarch of Moscow has done then it would be just as well. I don't think in either case this gives the crusaders, true or false, any justification for extrajudicial killing, rapes, looting, etc. I'm also not blind to the fact that this is how pretty much every war plays out in some sense where people involved either do or do not follow the gospel to the word. To your question on heresy though. If we did however execute heretics, I mean in our political expression, I could not say it is intrinsically evil to sentence a heretic to death. Heresy, Murder, Rape, are all crimes that by their nature are which would merit death. Of course it has been the opinion of our pope to not execute anyone on the grounds these things are no longer necessary or prudent. However, they are not intrinsically wrong and he has not said they are, nor can he. Otherwise if we taught that then the Protestants/Orthodox are correct and we have contradicted Church teaching or thousands of years.
@@jimcampbell7675 Hey, Jim. I forgive you. Forgive me, my name is Kevin. I too have been posting out of emotion on this topic. I admit some part of it is being I'm afraid of being drafted to fight a war that could have been avoided and that I'm to be branded a traitor despite my sincere passion for our nation and our people. I'm in my late twenties and I'm just going to get married and start a family. I have a family with at least some military experience. It's been truly disheartening, demoralizing for us to see how the USA has changed. It's one of the reason that almost all of my family are functionality, practically or explicitly have left the faith. We largely distrust every institution, police, fire, medical, military, government in general. Thus, every action, whether real or fake, true or false, is viewed with suspicion and doubt. Think of the boy who cried wolf or of an unfaithful spouse, we can't believe everything we see or hear because there COULD not IS a secondary motive behind everything. Thank you for being charitable. We need to talk about these things even its in a messy, inarticulate, spiteful discussion. These are important issues.
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 No need! I may not agree with 100% of his claims in this interview, but he doesn't bend to the Kremlin as many here would have him do (opposite of the current thing and all).
I was following and interested in what the Archbishop was saying until he said "Tucker Carlson is a big problem for this country". What country exactly? Ukraine, the United States - who? My heart hurts for the innocent victims of this war in Ukraine, as it does for any war anywhere, but why is the United States being viewed by Ukraine and the proponents of aid within the US as the savior and sole defender of Ukraine's soverignty? (While at the same time they are not exercising contol and defense of the United States southern border?) Even if it is as simple as Ukraine good Russia bad - we do not have the money to continue to majorly support Ukraine. (Unless you are an advocate of Modern Monetary Theory which promotes the "printing of money" with abandon.) Where is Europe? Where is Australia? Where is Canada? Why are we footing the bill for the lion's share - yet we are not standing openly and without reserve against China's aggressions in Taiwan? Not to mention that China is standing with Russia - and we are kowtowing to China at every turn? The political entanglements between the Democrat Party in the US and Ukraine should not be flippantly ignored, nor the use of Zelensky in his speech before Congress as a means to morally strongarm the Republicans into capitulating to a 7.1 Trillion Omnibus Spending package that we can't afford and which is filled with left-wing goodies (in addition to the 50 billion for Ukraine). Ukraine aid should have been a stand-alone bill - yet it wasn't because the Democrats wouldn't allow it. If it is really about the plight of the Ukraine people and the common good, this wouldn't have been an issue. There are more questions than there are answers - including oversight of the funds that are sent to Ukraine. Prudential judgment does not overlook all of this and just look the other way while handing over carte blanche.
Totally agree, Lynne! Zelenskyy has become a sacred cow to the left. Holding the Ukrainian government accountable for how it spends our tax dollars has somehow also been confused by the left as some kind of Russian talking point. In all honestly, this isn’t our fight. If the left would like to strap on some boots and fight for Ukraine have at it!! But America is a sovereign country, and I’m still not entirely sure why it’s our responsibility to arm every country in Europe with bullets, guns and missile defense systems. Especially when our schools need repair, our veterans are homeless and suicidal, and our southern border has millions of pounds of fentanyl flooding though it every day that our own people are addicted to and dying from.
Tucker carlson is a problem for both. He parrots Putins talking points constantly. I RESPECT MANY conservatives, but Tucker is either gravely confused or on the Fsb payroll.
@@volusian95 Russia wasn't fighting there at that time. But other than that, both sides broke it and we ex Ukrainian president said that they were just buying time with it, so there was no real intention of upholding it.
@@Wlof25 In a recent interview Angele Merkel stated that the 2014 Minsk agreement was just a tactic to prepare Ukraine for war. They never had any intentions of upholding it. Let’s be honest, the USA, NATO simply shifted their money making enterprise from Iraq and Afghanistan to Ukraine. And the Ukranian people be damned. The profits being made in Ukraine will dwarf the billions from the middle east, And the Ukranian people be damned ! Europe is in a right state because of these backfiring sanctions agaisnt Russia It's Amazing how Europe, especially Germany, has simply succumbed to all these psychopathic war mongoring Neocons. Mind Boggling really, when you consider what they always leave behind!.
"Observe good faith and justice tow[ar]ds. all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all.... in the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated.... [F]oreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government…. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”
Living as a slave is probably morally better than letting the world burn in a nuclear holocaust. Certainly the Jews survived its share of slavery, and Gods word has come out the other end of that far stronger. Christians were persecuted under pagan Rome for a very long time too. Life is not the be all and end all, but sacrificing all life for the freedom of a few seems to be giving in to worldly pleasures more than Godly righteousness. There is a question of what would life be for the Ukrainians if it were completely or partially annexed. Certainly there is some peace already within the Russian Federation for minorities. Muslims in Bashkortostan or Dagestan, the native Uralic peoples of Siberia and the north. Less than ethnic Russians? Sure, but better than an irradiated fallout winter.
Ukrainians will not accept slavery. 90% of all rebellions in the Russian Empire were in Ukraine. So, it’s more of a “liberty or death” attitude among Ukrainians. Besides, russians openly said that at least 2 million pro-Ukrainian Ukrainians would need to be killed to pacify Ukraine. I hope you realize the kind of genocide you are asking Ukrainians to accept.
@@Alex.Kalashnik Im not comparing slavery vs an attitude to keep fighting, for which Id recommend the latter. But specifically US involvement in a war they have no obligation to participate in, which may easily lead to nuclear war and the deaths of far more than 2 million Ukrainians. In the end, its not up to Europe or America to save Ukraine. Ukraine needs to fight for its own right to exist, and thus far has been doing pretty good.
Yes, we shouldn't stand up to evil because the consequences would be too great- like death. We should have told all our martyrs years ago to give it up...
This is a very compelling interview with both our Metropolitan Fr Jason Charron. It saddens me to see so many of our Conservative leaders here in the U.S. shy away from supporting Ukraine against Putin and his Kremlin Kraken army.
Was that his point? “It is pretty clear that Zelensky has no interest in freedom and democracy…He is a dictator.” He grossly oversimplified the whole situation without giving any background information regarding Zelensky’s justification for these actions.
Yes it is our problem, because the US forced Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, third largest in the world, and in exchange gave Ukraine security assurance and promised to defend Ukrainian territory against encroachment.
@@hodapp512 Tucker is correct. I am not going to die for Ukraine. You can if you want, I suppose. But you won't go over there either because you recognize that it isn't our problem.
He mentioned 20+ ethnic groups, that is the literal definition of diversity. I know the modern political landscape has made diversity a dirty word, but it isn't. The purpose of the church is to be Catholic(universal/diverse).
Why is it that this is the one issue where civil conversation is impossible? War is a high-stakes topic and we should be able to discuss different viewpoints level-headedly or lose our heads to the wills of the powerful on any side. "Servants of the Kremlin" is not a good faith comment.
@@IrvingNestorRandom I don't think those spamming all the defamation that they think now justifies Russians killing people are worth defining in any other way.
I hear the views here and Bottom line we as a country should have NEVER interfered. 2nd/3rd week in zel and putin were going to the table and then zelinski got the golden eggs. Now so many senseless since then. This would have been OVER. Donbask wanted their own sovereignty they VOTED on it beginning of Feb. And invited Russia in to protect them from aslof neo nazi army of Ukraine but zelinski and USA refused to recognize the sovereignty of that state . Anyway. Neither here nor there. Bottom line this would have dissolved by end of Feb. Now USA and other nations have this continued war on their hands.
I am Ukrainian-American and I voted for Trump. I believe russians were scared of Trump and wouldn’t start a full-scale invasion of Ukraine if he was in power.
With all due respect if this man is actually a Christian, but his presentation is simply assertion of the jewish + US State Dept + CIA view of the world. Opposition media and parties are suppressed in the Ukraine. It is not "democracy." BTW the famine orchestrated in the 30s was also jewish, not "Russian."
@@volusian95 Then you were misinformed. The Ukraine was never sovereign before 1990. Ever. Read the first chapter of Solzhenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together to get your first intro history.
Let's say for the sake of argument that its true: Ukraine isn't a democracy. But neither is Russia, correct? But Russia invaded a sovereign country, Ukraine didn't. They are not moral equivalents. My 1st grader can understand that.
It's time eastern catholic and byzantine catholic should be mainstream and existing Roman catholic should change the ideology to these traditions. Subscriber from india Matt pls have someone from kerala state india in your interview . BTW they are present in usa as well
I don't get you, the Latin Catholics constitute around 98% of the catholic Church , all the other 23 churches combine to form the rest 2% . All these churches are very diffrent from each other that we cannot consider them as one church. Btw, I'm also from Kerala and a syro Malabar catholic.
Every Pope of Rome from Our Holy Father Leo XIII has had to assert and re-assert the fact that Eastern Catholics not only have a right but a duty to maintain their unique and exclusive practices and expressions of the faith tradition. These Popes have had to do this because they realize that such demands for assimilation would result in the elimination of who they are and what they stand for . Roman Catholic Bishop John Ireland sought to impose upon Eastern Catholics in such a way and caused a grave scandal which led many of those people out of communion with Rome and in effect led to the creation of the Orthodox Church of America, in fact many in the OCA consider him to be the founding Bishop of the OCA I know he was a Roman Catholic Bishop. So to sum it up anyone who suggests such a thing is extraordinarily ignorant of History and is actually going against the mandates of multiple papacies for over a century. I get it though, there are many fundamentalist Roman Catholics that espouse this nonsense due to some semblance of Roman Catholic triumphalism that they have chosen to believe in.
It is a shame the Carlson has drunk the Putin Koolaid. I otherwise have enjoyed his show, but his uncritical acceptance of vatnik propaganda is just sad.
Tucker Carlson lost any credibility as a source on Ukraine after constantly having Colonel MacGregor on who had his predictions proven wrong every week. It's one thing to have him on once and he was wrong, it's another thing to cling onto him as some sort of enlightened geopolitical commentator who is proven wrong every time he speaks.
@@cbrad-eo6nt the video. While i'd want to keep an open mind to me it seems likely that this video is going to have a very western slant. Obviously, as suggested by the person above that makes me some russian bot, and there is no possible way that i just want a more neutral case for the war, as no side is entirely innocent here.
@AUSTRALOPITHECUS AFARENSIS I find it hard to trust any government affiliated entity from the US, UK, RUSSIA, OR UKRAINE. I am on the side of the Ukrainian people because they, for the most part, are the innocents suffering due to forced circumstances out of their control.
🧷 the two world vessel in full sail deposits peace time ground troopers as guards for the walking observer. They collect the uncertainty as navigation markers toward a turning into the world that knows peace 🕊️ The journalist's have done their work ... it is time to see the smog (worm) from the fog (intimacy).
I’m sorry but this archbishop can only speak in propaganda. Like his cadence is like an MKULTRA victim. I’m pro russian and this only made me morso. I pray for his flock and for peace in the ukraine, and for the Russians now being persecuted by zelensky.
@@chorzta are you equally sad at the pro Ukraine comments? Neither side deserves praise. Ukraine needs to respect agreements and stop being a NATO stooge. Russia wouldn't feel obligated to invade if Ukraine wasn't run by actually terrorists installed by NATO
This is the worst interview I have ever seen on this channel. I couldn't finish it. These men don't know what they don't know. They really do not. I'm sorry to see this misrepresentation aired on this channel.
This has to be the most biased and propagandistic speaker you’ve had on. Can you please interview somebody who will challenge his ideas? We need balance!
I respect the office of the Archbishop, but he showed his political cards hard as soon as he brought up Tucker Carlson. Why is the archbishop so obsessed with bashing Tucker? Tucker and other conservatives simply question the billions of tax payer dollars being sent to Ukraine and why no other country comes close to “donating” the same; not to mention the issues stateside that money could be going towards. The archbishop only mentions the name “Zelensky” once…in passing. He also never touches the involvement of Biden (or any other American politician) in Ukraine money laundering schemes. This has absolutely nothing to do with “supporting” Russia, but his leftist politics choose to polarize themselves with assuming so. If America helps pull Ukraine in with NATO, there is a very real possibility of nuclear war…is the archbishop really willing to hinge nuclear war on his leftist distaste of Tucker Carlson?? Let’s not forget many Ukrainians also wanted Russia to invade, so this “war” is not so easy to comprehend. No one wants Russia to “win”, Tucker/conservatives simply don’t want America to provoke a nuclear war for the sake of political money laundering in a foreign country, far be it from being “pro-Russia”…
"Because so many people have created airtight ideological frameworks into which every new set of facts must be somehow stuffed, the Russia-Ukraine war is cast as simply another aspect of the New World Order, or the World Economic Forum, or some other internationalist scheme. Thus, this cannot simply be an expansionist war by Russian invaders seeking to occupy parts of Ukraine that they feel entitled to for political and historical reasons. It must primarily be about whatever we have already been talking about." - Jonathon Van Maren, europeanconservative.com/articles/essay/russia-ukraine-and-the-fogs-of-culture-war/
Yeah, basically. For us, it can only be that because those are the stakes for us. Its different for the Ukrainians. I would support them more overtly, but I cannot because of how the situation plays back home. This makes me as uncomfortable like most of our wars because we will support child predators and secular progressives to stop Islamic Jihad, but then we will spin it the other way to support Jihadis when they attack communists/authoritarians.
The worse case of this for me is how we basically support the genocides of the Armenians now because we want to support Ukraine and Turkey against Russian, even though their values are really opposite aligned to ours where as Armenian isn't.
This was all foretold in Fatima. Our Lady came in 1914 to Ukraine, before she came to Fatima in 1917 and in 1987 she came back to Ukraine.
Great article. I'd also recommend Ed West's article, "The Oikophobia of the Right."
@@chervon5773 Hey, thanks for this. I will give it a deeper read. I think Okiophobia is not the right term. I've always hated this framing game where I'm supposed to be labelled as fearful or hateful of some group because their ideology stinks. I don't think the Right hates the West. They hate the one's in the West who hate the West. Ie. Any support of Putin is an enemy of my enemy and not out of actual disdain for their country's values. I suppose it is then apt I guess to struggle over what one's country means. In terms of the Ukraine conflict it feels like I'm being called unpatriotic for liking freedom. That's not what the Left is proposing. It's anti-freedom, a forced agenda against the nature of the concept itself.
I think something that maybe shows differently across generation is that in my zoomer/millennial background I was constantly told in school that what America did was wrong. ei in WW2 to imprison Japanese people, that it was wrong to kill the Native Americans and so on. Not out of wokism, but because it is wrong to unjustly kill or imprison people. Now we are being asked by a distant, corporate, governmental, elite conglomerate, claiming to be the small victim of every problem, that the rules must be broken, again, for the billionth time, to be the one's who makes the rules. This troubles me greatly because if this war was to be true and actually just as is proposed then it would mean all of our values are wrong and do not actually exist in reality. What really exists then is the horror of the mere power struggle between forces who do not do things on principles, but only for material gain.
This seems to be the more relevant line from the article:
"The fundamental tragedy of progressive and media malfeasance is that the very real plight of millions of Ukrainians is being lost in the social media roar."
Part of that media malfeasance is the repetition of false claims (mobile crematoriums) and the portrayal of the Russian people as cartoonishly evil and simple (Russians invaded because they are jealous). It's also not helped by defending apparently odious behavior like closing churches and by straw manning people's positions when you're supposed to be "steel manning" them.
Thanks! Друкую ! I really appreciated this one ☝️ . This is my church and my family and this is my favorite church father so to speak. Metropolitan archbishop Borys Gudziak is an inspiration to his fellow American 🇺🇸 born Ukrainian catholic priests, clergymen, laymen, members of the church and beyond into the Ukrainian Catholic University and I internationally. I love that you had him on the show. God Bless .
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much fir this video!!! I m Ukrainian and it gives me pain how many of western world now doesn't understand the historical issues between Ukraine and Russia, this video gives a lot of truth about the situation in the churches of Ukraine.
Many Western people do not understand because they never experienced living under a communist , totalitarian, regime.
I want to thank his Eminence for this opportunity to hear his perspective about what’s going on. I appreciate this and am praying for the war to end. Amen
This was amazing ! He’s the leader of my Ukrainian Catholic Church ! I could never have imagined he would make it on to your podcast which I love and listen to! Too bad it took such a crisis. But never the less huge respect for getting Metropolitan Gudziak !! Wow bravo!
For everybody who ever asks the question "How does this war end", Bishop Gudziak has the right, and only correct, answer @50:57 "It ends with the defeat of Evil". Amen.
I’ve actually helped as an altar boy for one of his liturgies at Holy Family Ukrainian Catholic Byzantine Shrine in Washington DC where I grew up ! This is such a surprise and pleasure to see and hear him on one of my favorite niche RUclips podcasts.
There is so much more going on in Ukraine than just a holy war. I can understand the religious focus they are taking but on an economic global scale there is so much more. What is sad is that people are caught in the crossfire. It’s tragic.
I can’t believe I missed this 5 months ago, what a treasure I’m downloading it . Thank you 🙏! Христос воскрес ! Воїстино воскрес ! Christ has risen ! Indeed he has risen !
That was a great question towards the end about what happens with Ukrainians after the war. Where do we gravitate I also wonder about this.
I love my country so much, it's so unique. I thought before the war, listening to a lot of people like Tucker, how lucky we are here not to be woke, but not to be Russia as well. We are just the golden middle. I like our mainstream, I like what my sons are thought at school - to be patriots, to now our tradition, our Christian traditions as well. We still say Merry Christmas! and Christ is born! And Christ has risen for Easter to everyone in the street. And mostly get the proper answer.
People know nothing about the languages in Ukraine and I'm tired of all the selfjustification. What Russia was doing for decades to create this problem, to come "saving" Russian speakers later. It was a long-playing plan to destroy Ukrainians or other people's and create homosoveticus. With no language, no culture, no language, no mother tongue.
I can understand that outsiders can be just over, or indifferent or whatever. But they also want to feel right and holy.
Unfortunately a lot of people in the west buy into russian propaganda. But this won’t help the russian imperialists win.
I know that I, for one, will keep giving to aid Ukraine through United24 even after victory. Ukraine needs friends after the war as well as during it. Someday, I want to visit a beautiful and rebuilt Ukraine, thriving and filled with spirit.
@@steelytemplar thank you so much!
A thing people don't understand as well is that our regions of Central and Eastern Europe have always been rife with forced movements of population to make people assimilate into the Russian Empire. My mother was born in Belarus, both of my grandparents were born in Ukraine, and some of my great-grandparents were born in current Lithuania. But, they are all Polish ethnically, linguistically and culturally. By forcing people out of their territories, planting native Russians in those regions, Russia can claim it was theirs all along. It's a very effective tactic to strip people away from their national unity and grow the empire.
@@nellyf.3153 exactly. And still some foreigner hears a glimpse of something, decides now they know really how it is, how they understand all the history...
I think you can be unequivocally and morally sure in your support of Ukraine while also not cartoonizing Russia and their reasons for invading. A "steel man" argument should not be only a sentence long.
Would you ask jewish person to 'steel man' argument for Hitler ?
Wrong
That is understandable but in all fairness their stated reasons have been so flimsy I also don’t blame people for not taking them seriously
Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep.
And yes, the West is obviously using Ukrainian to hurt Russia because Russia is the last Christian superpower that defends children from perverts and pedophiles by law. Anyone who isn’t completely biased or blind can see that
@@fireballgarcia1281 They didn’t prepare good reasons for invading because they thought it would be over in 3 days. When the strong Ukrainian resistance made it impossible, they started coming up with all kinds of wild reasons after the fact and pushing them with vigor across their media and russian-influenced media personalities around the world.
This interview was helpful to me - thank you. 🙏
Would Fr Charron be willing to debate a pro Russian cleric on the issue
Or even a neutral
@@MikeyJMJ Yeah that's what I was going to say. I'm not sure if a reasonable cleric would go all the way to actively cheering on Putin.
@@TheWhitePine5 I don't think a reasonable cleric would actively be cheering for Zelensky
@@peroercegovac1973 ok Russians are not fighting for Putin they are fighting for the Russian nation
@@peroercegovac1973 that is the point, unfortunately, the Church shouldn't be getting involved in a political war, they should be the neutral on both sides. Really sad.
Thanks!
I understand the argument regarding Russia's negative actions. However, even the bishop acknowledges that Ukraine does not have citizens sleeping on the streets. Therefore, why is it incorrect to suggest providing shelter and support for the 500,000 homeless Americans and the 37 million individuals living in poverty instead of allocating hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine? In my opinion, this is the strongest argument that the father should consider. The bishop is only using emotional appeals and even resorts to using the example of the priest's family, who are present right beside him, in a crude way.
in the US these ppl already have a way of getting help, they just don't want to take it because the life is already great even like that
@@AndrD1406and that speaks to a deep cultural rot in America that does not make us suitable to be world leaders.
I would love to see Tucker have him on his show...
Agreed!
I personally cannot speak for, or against this war. I will admit that I do not understand the politics behind it.
Though I am not so nieve as to say, Ukraine good...Russia bad.
One more little thing I will add...
I respect Tucker Carlson...I think he is a good and decent man...I guarantee that he doesnt want to see anyone die in this war, from either side...and I would never personally attack him and call him a lier! He absolutely could be wrong about something, just as well as the next guy...but to call a man a lier...that's pretty serious!
I am now suspicious of the initial argument!
@@rosiegirl2485 I don't know. I think the Trump Russia thing made Conservatives think Russia was good because they were so mad about the false allegations against Trump. At the end of the day, Putin does want power. Tucker should be able to separate his views some. That is sloppy journalism. When you have millions tuning in every night, you can't afford to make mistakes.
None of what these men on here have explained is why Ukraine’s President silenced opposition media and jailed his political opponents way prior to Russia’s invasion…. I say a tyrant will do tyrannical things always and only take advantage of developing politics to justify it.
Pope Francis says many things in direct opposition to US policy and US sovereignty/security… should we arrest, ban, silence all Catholics???? What Zolensky is doing is wrong even if these priests in question report to a Russian patriarch..in my opinion
@@HoldYourBreat4 I think Zelensky is a puppet for American money laundering so he is likely just following orders. That still doesn't change the fact that the churches should be staying out of it and encouraging an end to the war. When the church(any church) lowers itself to the level of a politician it is a problem. That being said, Putin has prophecies of taking over the old holy Roman empire. Even many Orthodox monks etc are saying he is the one from St Paisios prophecy. So he isn't stopping anytime soon. There are other prophecies as well. Not good to.mix prophecy and politics...leads to world wars...
@@crunchycousin5986 agreed on the puppet point… I’m new to the other statements… what would you recommend I read up on to get more knowledge on these prophesies and Putins involvement in fulfilling them?
God Bless Ukraine
I've always seen a great deal of respect for Poland among Catholics. It is often viewed as one of the most faithful Catholic countries in the world and, of course, it was the birthplace of Pope Saint John-Paul II.
That doesn't make the Poles infallible, of course, but I do find it very interesting that the Poles are among the staunchest supporters of Ukraine in the current war. It is instructive because the Poles, far more than those of us in the United States, know very well both the Ukrainians and the Russians, having seen some of the best and worst of each nation. It seems to me that the opinion of the Poles in this matter has some weight for fellow Catholics.
Why? Their dislike of Russia has become an ethnic animus not really distinct from how Hutus feel about Tutsis.
@@Markusctfldl That's a vile libel to make against the Polish people.
There is no evidence of anything like a widespread ethnic hatred of Russians. Animosity for the governments of the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation does not translate to hatred of Russian people.
Is it offensive to you that the Poles resent the decades of oppression, torture, and murder they suffered under the USSR? Is it a problem, in your mind, that the Poles look with with suspicion and disdain upon Putin's belligerent, expansionist nationalism?
And the Poles are not alone in Eastern and Central Europe when it comes to how they view the Russian state of past and present. Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, and others have no fondness for what the Soviet Union did in the past nor for what Russia is doing in the present.
@@steelytemplar Not really libel, just a fact. However you want to justify it is fine, but it is an ethnic hatred. You'll find they are common in Eastern Europe. Just visit the Balkans.
@@Markusctfldl It is not a fact simply by your stating it to be so. You haven't proven your claim at all.
And please note that you had best be able to prove a widespread ethnic hatred which rises to the level of murder. That is what you claim and that is what you must prove.
@@Markusctfldl dont call youself a Dr... you have no brain and you make no sense
Thanks for releasing this video to the public!
Wow! I learned so many new facts and interesting things about the war! Thanks Borys! And Matt, another great interview as always; keep up the effort my man! Amen!
The Ukrainian catholic theology is fascinating having grown up in it I always preferred it to roman Catholicism of my schooling . I u der stand the politics are important to discuss at this time but please consider having more Ukrainian catholic byzantines on to speak about the theology and faith how it survived ww2 Polinization, Austria empire and Russification but mostly the faith and theology thanks !!!!
Matt, I have so appreciated your recent podcasts (new to the show). Would it be possible for you to post some of the "reliable sources" about Ukrainian current events that the Archbishop alluded to at timestamp 1:02:35. Maybe this is for your locals supporters? I get that. My wife and I will pray about that, as well as praying for Ukraine (and for your family). By the way, we have a Ukrainian emigree where I work. I can confirm one of the Archbishop's comments that no Ukrainian says to abandon ANY of the Ukrainian territorial integrity. That is what my colleague told me months ago. She too told me to be careful about the information coming out of Carlson's show...such a shame .
"Ukraine" was enlarged by Communists. It includes almost 50% ethnic Russian people. 51% of the ppl of Ukraine voted for Yanukovych. The crazy ultra-nationalists overthrew the rightful president, using FOREIGN FUNDS (Victoria Nuland bragged of $5 Billion) to remove the choice of the majority. Kiev is not representative of the whole country. In fact, the majority of the GDP is in the east, the lands taken from Russia and given to the crazies in Kiev under Communism to keep them quiet. All Ukraine had to do was be reasonably fair and equitable. For 7 years Kiev faked going along with a peaceful end to the hostilities. Kiev has EARNED the loss of half of its territory. They squandered their own precious human resources to dominate their cousins in the south and east. 100,000 to 200,000 ethnic Ukrainian soldiers are dead and roughly equivalent are maimed as a result of the crazies that took over after the EuroMaidan coup.
This was just incredible. Thank you so much.
I am more than sure that the good Archbishop is a very honorable and trustworthy man, and it is clear that he loves the Church and its people. However, the situation in Ukraine is simply not this one sided. He cited mobile crematoriums which are not confirmed, and those allegations are even looked at with skepticism from Ukraine's more ardent defenders. He may be totally correct when he judges the Russian patriarch; but the geopolitical situation between Russia and Ukraine, and between Russia and NATO at large, is certainly not as simple as the one sentence steel man argument that was presented in Russia's favor. Obviously this is not a political show, however this topic requires a well rounded and nuanced view regardless of whatever side one may be on.
Ukrainian citizens in occupied areas regularly report the stench of burning bodies from russian-occupied facilities.
@kalashnik3 As horrific as that sounds, that's certainly not proof of a military unit of mobile crematoriums. We shouldn't exaggerate claims. It only discredits the truth.
The crematorium question is a complete red herring. We're digging up huge mass graves and burned civilians! This is holocaust level stuff! What nuance? Do we need to nuance Hitler and the Nazi party? Do we need to nuance the invasion, rape, and massacre of innocent civilians belonging to a sovereign nation? How thick do you have to be?
@evolutionist79 Your emotional response is exactly why we need a more nuanced approach. Half of the reports from the region are out right false, and the other half are propaganda for either side.
Zac, even the Russia media reported in the lead up to the war about mobile crematoria.
I’m certainly against the war in Ukraine, but the presentation of most topics here were pretty simplistic and one-sided: the circumstances of the creation of the Ukrainian Catholic Church, the relationship between the ROC and the KGB, the history of Ukraine over the last 20 years and the USA’s heavy involvement in shaping recent events to name a few. It’s one of the most complicated global situations going on right now and none of us are getting the full picture presented to us.
explain to me how 90% of ukraineians voted for indpendence in 1991 and yet Putin will not honor that
@@miken2604 Well what about Crimea voting for independence from Ukraine and wanting to join Russia....shouldn't Ukraine honor that?
@@theStashSmash if that is true that the vast majority of Crimeans prefer to be part of Russia then I suppose that should be respected
@@miken2604 You need to use better logic and better reasoning. Brits voted to be in the EU, then they voted to leave. 1991 was a long time ago. Ukraine elected Yanukovych in 2010 but the foreign run nutjobs didn't want to wait for the next election cycle to 'vote him out'. I bet they knew they didn't have the votes to vote him out. The votes in Crimea and Donbas reflect the change in the thoughts of the people of these regions after the violent overthrow of the legally elected president. Victoria Nuland CHOSE the interim president for the Kiev junta. Forces loyal to the junta in Kiev have been bombing Donbass for 6 years since they refused to go with the leaders of the coup in Kiev. Those folks were far more like our founding fathers than the late night torch paraders in Kiev.
Not to mention the fact that while Patriarch Kirill is being demonized (and rightly so it would seem), Patriarch Bartholomew, who is buddy-buddy with Joe Biden, gets a free pass despite his meddling in Ukraine, and legitimizing a band of largely defrocked and excommunicated "clergy" who form the Orthodox Church of Ukraine. Most Orthodox autocephalous and autonomous churches still do not recognize OCU as canonical.
Something about this interview doesn’t sit right with me. I’m going to have to watch it again because I was listening to it while working on the computer.
I had the same feeling.
Well... I guess we'll just wait in suspense until you watch it then? Lol
My guess is that Matt Fradd is not mentioning that he's a fan of Tucker Carlson while the Metropolitan rails against him. A bit awkward.
@@hodapp512
I think the attack on Tucker by the Archbishop made me suspicious of his argument.
This war has nothing to do with Tucker.
His job is to report on it, and he gives his honest opinion on how he views it.
Calling a man a lier is serious business.
Hearing the Archbishop attacking Tucker over and over, lowered my trust, and my opinion of this Archbishop.
Which affected this entire interview, because I sadly didn't want to hear what he had to say!
@@rosiegirl2485 Yeah, His Excellency basically justified outlawing the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine w/o any sort of due process, and Matt called the view "reasonable."
Please list the alternative media links the Metropolitan mentioned he would give you. thank you. and where to purchase the Archbishop's book on the history of the catholic church in Ukraine.
I'm not completely sure the steel man was the best it could have been. I believe Ukraine was even seeking nukes right before the invasion. No mention was made of the govt coup in Ukraine in 2014. While Ukraine certainly is the victim, it is not so simple from a matter of prudence.
@@peroercegovac1973 What did I say that was a lie or falsehood? It's pretty presumptuous to call a random stranger on RUclips a "liar." Charity would have demanded you at least say I was misinformed. At best, you could've just pointed out what was false or misleading about something I said, without attacking me personally. If you knew me personally or had to talk to me face-to-face, would you be making personal accusations? I already admitted that Ukraine was the victim. But was it prudent for Ukraine to seek NATO membership? Understandable, but prudent? Was it prudent for Ukraine to talk about acquiring nukes? Did anyone stop to think how Russia would react to that? Hardly anyone mentions that Russia invaded in 2014 in reaction to a coup that installed a Ukraine govt. less friendly to Russia. I'm NOT saying Russia is justified in its actions; I'm saying that PRUDENT people take into account the likely reactions of others, whether those reactions are justified or not. I don't know all the details, and obviously, as an American, I don't have the same interests as a Ukrainian, but it's worth asking if the actions taken by Ukraine and NATO before 2014 and 2022 were worth the price of the present war and threat of nuclear warfare. I ask the question because I am not an ideologue pushing one side or the other, and I've learned that foreign policy is almost always more complicated than it appears to many.
@@peroercegovac1973 btw, I do get the point that you made (before attacking me personally). Your point seems to be that Ukraine has every right to seek nuclear weapons since Russia broke the Accord first. I have no desire to dispute that. But there is a difference between what one has a right to do and what is most prudent to do. And I'm not even claiming that I know for certain what the most prudent course of action was. Possession of nuclear weapons seems to be a good deterrent to invasion, so it makes sense for Ukraine to have wanted them to avoid further invasion. But it also makes sense for Russia to perceive, rightly or wrongly, that possession as a threat and choose to invade before that happens. We can decry Russian paranoia all we want, but it still remains a fact that needs to be handled with thoughtfulness and prudence, not ideological characterizations (as practical as those can for a country at war).
So was Russia supposed to just sit by and watch children and the elderly be dismembered forever?
Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep.
@@peroercegovac1973 Yes, and how glad do you think Russia is that Ukraine doesn’t have Nukes right now?
You are lying by repeating russian propaganda that Ukraine was somehow seeking nuclear weapons before the war.
I don't doubt that these men are trying to do good, but they're doing more harm than good. When you try to explain away things that should be criticized (the forced shuttering of churches) or resort to overly simplistic explanations (russia invaded because they're envious of how awesome ukraine is) it just destroys your credibility and leads people to embrace the opposite view. Why can't you just say that yes, forcing churches closed without trials or evidence is bad but that doesn't put them on the same level as russia. Why can't you just admit that russia does have some legitimate grievances against ukraine (the shelling of civilian populations in the donbass to name one) but nothing that could justify an invasion. Why can't you say that ukraine is not perfect and its government suffers from corruption but your country doesn't have to be perfect to have a right to self determination?
The constant obliteration of nuance just makes people think you're lying and from covid to ukraine, that's destroying people's ability to trust any authority even those within the church.
Exactly.
Excellent Comment. I had to roll my eyes at the mobile crematoriums they mentioned, that's a bit unhinged.
So was Russia supposed to just sit by and watch children and the elderly be dismembered forever?
Anyone who defends the right of Ukrainians to defend themselves by force cannot consistently condemn Russia for stepping in to defend Russian speakers in Eastern Ukraine after 8 years of bombing and murder. Anyone who thinks Kennedy did the right thing in the Cuban missile crisis cannot condemn Russia for preventing an extremely hostile Western puppet regime, brought to power by a Western funded and instigated coup, from following through with threats to develop nuclear weapons on their doorstep.
@@Alex.Kalashnik Maybe maybe not but I know for a fact that a majority of the armed forces of Ukraine would at this point
You are repeating russian lies, which makes your comment highly questionable. First, there have been no churches shuttered in Ukraine. The russian-controlled church is merely being investigated for collaboration with Moscow in this war. Russia invaded because they want to rebuild the Russian Empire. They openly say so. Russia started the war in Donbas and has been prosecuting it for 8 years. And in recent months they have pressed every able-bodied man in that area into their survice and sent them to fight against Ukraine under threat of execution. And what does Ukraine have to do with COVID? Ukraine had the lowest rate of Covid vaccination in Europe because Ukrainians were also highly skeptical of the narrative.
I just heard that some family folks do.not talk to each other.That's me my children do not speak to me anymore. It 's a fight of good & evil.
If a government doesn’t stand for religious freedom and respect then I’m at a position of protest against that government. Rome, the author of intolerance, the biggest organized killer in history, and the greatest opponent to mankind having the Word of God in their own language is all of the sudden interested in human rights 🧐…. Well, how amazing is that?
Matt Fradd would do well to get some differing perspectives for balance. Debate is needed, not another full show for one sided PR
Yes. The children of Donbass deserve a voice.
What perspective do you want to get about invading a country, killing mostly people you yourself consider the same people & then persecuting Ukrainian patriots, with your man strategy during winters to make people freeze to death?
Thanks for a great interview!
1:03-- Your Excellency, aid is good to internally displaced Ukrainians. But encouraging them to leave permanently is to turn their backs on Ukraine. Aid to the Church in Need are committed to supporting Christians to stay in their homelands. You should be too
With respect to the Archbishop, why is it Catholic Social Doctrine for the rest of the world to risk nuclear war so Ukraine can continue to pursue antagonistic foreign policy against Russia?
sovereign countries have the right to self determine
@@p_7ero so should Catholics across the world support that right to self determination even if it means nuclear war? Is that Catholic Social Doctrine as these guests suggest?
'I wonder why Ukraine would so antagonistically buddy up with NATO?'
@@volusian95 If you had russia as your neighbor, the desire to become part of NATO is completely understandable -- perhaps you should also ask why Poland and all of the formerly Soviet Republics of the Baltic states, actually joined.
@@brettmccaw5581 Finland was fine not being part of NATO for many decades even though they share a long border with Russia. They had a neutral foreign policy, however. Same goes for Ukraine, which only started having problems once they had a coup in order to end their policy of neutrality
Thank you Matt!
Please, keep us in your prayers.
I was interested in hearing him talk about the Church, not go on a long screed against Russia
They are connected, the history of the church in Ukraine and in Russia.
11:25, 27:00, 40:00, 53:15
This priest likes politics that he doesn't even fully comprehend
“We fear Russian occupation more than we fear nuclear war.”
This is where I’m going to have to check out…you’re losing the moral high ground here.
What he is saying is that Ukrainians are not afraid of russians using nuclear weapons against them. They would rather go through that than go back into russian slavery.
"Better to die free than live as slaves" - Frederick Douglass (as well as countless Christian martyr over the centuries)
@@hodapp512
However you notice that he was talking to tens of thousands of refugees in other countries?
If the people really did believe that, they would in their country fighting, not hiding out in a neighboring country waiting for the dust to settle.
Also dying to defend Christ is not the same as dying to oppose Russia. Not even a close comparison.
@@pcola4594 Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
@@davidb9639
You missed the point. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian men are not resisting. They are fleeing and hiding, and waiting for others to fight.
Where are you getting your opinion from? Can you show me where in the word your opinion is reflected?
I respect the Bishop here for his office, but the "Ukraine all good, Russia all bad" trope is just goofy. He is making the fundamental mistake of not differentiating between the Ukrainian/Russian people and their governments. I feel for the innocent people affected but both governments are evil.
Russia invaded the Ukraine without cause. The two are not moral equivalents.
Well maybe because only 300 of the 40,000 of Kirill's clergy members had objected against the war, and 77% of Russians still support the war of Putin.
A US general estimates 100,000 Ukrainian and 100,000 Russian soldiers and been killed with 40,000 Ukrainian civilians. - from the NYT and The Guardian.
This is a lot of death for our time in 2022, its like the 1930's to 50's, when Stalin and Mao ruled.
@@pslobodnik simply not true. Look at the history of the region the past few decades. To say it is wholly one sided is just ignorant of basic history.
@@hamie7624 Did the Ukraine invade Russia the past few decades?
Do you also feel that the “Jews all good, Nazis all evil” trope is also goofy?
The mobile crematoriums are as real as the Ghost of Kiev
Add the six million Donbass children shelled by the Azov Battalion, Ruzzoid 😂
Yes, and the Bucha massacre of civil Ukrainian population - which would make some scenes in former Yugoslavia look like kids playing - was false too, right? As a Latin American it makes me want to vomit when I see Americans falling for the Russian-KGB ideology.
@@spmcg_ Wait, you're familiar. I know I've seen you before.
@@masterchief8179 you mean the people on the street killed by artillery?
Anyway, whatever happened there, you are probably not so concerned about the shelling of Donetsk, whicb serves no military purpose. I have yet to see Russians intentionally shelling civilians.
@@spmcg_ it's interesting that you have to make up something that no one has said. It's actually ~14,000 civilians since 2014. Which is true, unlike the ghost of Kiev, snake island, Zelensky asking for ammo instead of fleeing, Russian jets being shot down by rifles & yes even the crematoriums. It's all war time propoganda.
Thank you for this video. Matt. And thank you, Archbishop Gudziak and Fr. Charron for your excellent representation of the situation in Ukraine.
Ukraine has a great many friends in the world and we will not let Ukraine fall to Russian aggression. The heroism and spirit of the Ukrainians as well as those who fight beside them has inspired people of countless nationalities to become invested in this fight for freedom. This is indeed a time for ordinary men and women to become heroes. God bless and protect them all. Slava Ukraini! Heroyam slava!
FORGOT ABOUT WOLYN AND SLAUGHTERING OF POLISH PEOPLE BY THE BANDERAS?????
SURE YOU DID.
CONVIEBIENTLY...........
POLISH PEOPLE SUFFERED GREATLY FROM BOTH RUSSIANS AND UKRAINIANS!
SLAVA TO UKRAINE????? FOR WHAT????????????
FOR MURDERING US AND TAKING OUR SOIL????????
FORGOT THAT WEST UKRAINE WAS POLAND AND YOU FORCED US FROM OUR HOMES, TOOK OUR SOIL, ANIMALS, BURNED PEOPLE AND ANIMALS ALIVE, CUTTING PEOPLE ALIVE AND MORE?????
FORGOT ABOUT WOLYN??.......?
YOU HORRIBLE PEOPLE!
SOME ARE INNOCENT THATS TRUE BUT WHY DO YOU SAY YOU ARE ALL GREAT PEOPLE IF YOU ARE NOT AND YOU LIEING TO THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PERHAPS THIS WAR WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF YOU WERE INNOCENT.
AND NOW YOU RECEIVED HELP FROM POLAND, PRIORITY TO EVERYTHNIG AND ARE HARDLY EXPRESSING ANY GRATITUDE ( SOME ARE BUT...).
NO, I DON'T SUPPORT PUTIN OR KILLING OF ANYONE BUT TO SAY THAT UKRAINIANS ARE TOTALY WITHOUT FAULT IS A LIE!
@@marzena3396815 I did not forget it, nor should it be forgotten.
At the same time, those were the crimes of people now dead and it is for the current generations of Poland and Ukraine to reconcile with one another. And that reconciliation seems to have gone forward significantly.
Now we can clearly see how the Poles are the most ardent supporters of Ukraine in their war against Russian invasion. It would be difficult to imagine a more potent image of reconciliation between two peoples than this friendship in a time of Ukraine's great need.
It'd be great if you could invite Bp Milan Lach, SJ on the show to talk about his upbringing as a Catholic under Communist occupation
Please list the alternative media links the Metropolitan mentioned he would give you.
Does anything, ever, confirm the proper consecration of Russia, as our lady asked?
That is a matter of private revelation and thus does not merit such consideration. Private Revelation and devotionalism are not the faith and should not supplant the genuine practice of the faith.
Nice unbiased video, completely fair coverage of the topic tbh.
Nope
Lol?
Okay Russian troll. Besides, Catholics aren't trying to cover things from all sides: we slant from the view of the Righteous one, Jesus Christ!
Ukraine stood up to totalitarianism in the World War? Wołyń says different. People should read what happened there.
v*tniks love to bring it up but they never mention who was their ally between 1939 and 1941
Yes, and Moscow was allied with Hitler before he turned on them. What does that prove?
Yes.
It is necessary to talk about what the Poles did in these territories for 20 years, and then what they did with the Ukrainians east of Lublin! And let the Jews also tell how the Poles behaved towards them!
@@СергійТерещук-о5в you will have to do serious mental gymnastics to try to justify killing tens of thousands of civilians
Gudziak is such a staunch opponent of "Russian imperialism" but he has only been able to flourish under "American imperialism". Hardly can you get a straight story from him.
33:26 "Ukraine has no interest in keeping Russians from speaking Russian". Not true! As a Romanian, I know for a fact that in 1991, in Ukraine, there were 120 schools teaching in Romanian. Now in 2022, there are at most 8 schools teaching Romanian.
This man is a snake, don't let him ensnare you, Matt!
I think what this shows is the epitome of why our Western values and way of thinking is basically going to die and we will have to invent new values based on our religion.
Every value says that we need to support Ukraine and that also invalidates them. Russia’s crusade is the same problem we had during the crusades against the Muslim caliphates. We cannot say theologically killing heretics is wrong. We cannot say we ought not defend our national interests. We ought not colonize and spread western values. We’ve had two decades of war to show that we fail at spreading those values. I have no idea what we are supposed to do because either option means I’m condemning those who are my brothers.
@@peroercegovac1973 No. No. It's in the video. It's what the Patriarch said. He said that the Russian Patriarch declared the war a holy war. That is what the crusades of the latins were and rightly so! Done horribly, complete failures, sure! Heck, I don't even know what to think about the flag flying. Both sides fly Nazi flags, the Russian fly the Soviet flag and I don't know how I'm supposed to believe both sides are Christian when they do overtly things against it.
@@TheWorldBroadcast Ukraine has had the highest degree of religious liberty in Europe for the last 30 years. What exactly did it do against faith?
@@Alex.Kalashnik I did not know that. I've just seen a lot of videos of people tying people to trees and peeing on them because they are ethnic Russian. I've also heard of the war crimes committed against the Donbass region. I'm also very upset at what seems like Zelensky (I never can spell his name correctly.) or at least his military commanders, seem content to drag us in by firing missiles at Poland.
Heck, I'm willing to excuse these things as they driven to base survival and to them it seems like they will and must do anything to keep Western support coming. I guess what I'm trying to also say is that we've conducted torture, made up operations and done evil stuff with our past two wars. Everyone only just barely clings to the rules and abandons them when convenient.
I want the war to end, but I cannot see either manifesting peace essentially because its a civil war.
@@jimcampbell7675 You are thoroughly mistaken. I don't think we should kill heretics either. I don't like Taylor Marshall new stuff either, he was much better when he was the theology guy and did shows with Tim Gordon on TNT. I'm also not going to justify the bombing of maternity hospitals. That is obviously evil. When the USA, Russia, China, Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, etc does it. Crusades were just in their inception, but were conducted poorly and many commanders committed mortal sins in giving their orders to do evil acts. If Pope Francis called a crusade like the Patriarch of Moscow has done then it would be just as well. I don't think in either case this gives the crusaders, true or false, any justification for extrajudicial killing, rapes, looting, etc. I'm also not blind to the fact that this is how pretty much every war plays out in some sense where people involved either do or do not follow the gospel to the word.
To your question on heresy though.
If we did however execute heretics, I mean in our political expression, I could not say it is intrinsically evil to sentence a heretic to death. Heresy, Murder, Rape, are all crimes that by their nature are which would merit death. Of course it has been the opinion of our pope to not execute anyone on the grounds these things are no longer necessary or prudent. However, they are not intrinsically wrong and he has not said they are, nor can he. Otherwise if we taught that then the Protestants/Orthodox are correct and we have contradicted Church teaching or thousands of years.
@@jimcampbell7675 Hey, Jim. I forgive you. Forgive me, my name is Kevin. I too have been posting out of emotion on this topic. I admit some part of it is being I'm afraid of being drafted to fight a war that could have been avoided and that I'm to be branded a traitor despite my sincere passion for our nation and our people. I'm in my late twenties and I'm just going to get married and start a family. I have a family with at least some military experience. It's been truly disheartening, demoralizing for us to see how the USA has changed. It's one of the reason that almost all of my family are functionality, practically or explicitly have left the faith. We largely distrust every institution, police, fire, medical, military, government in general. Thus, every action, whether real or fake, true or false, is viewed with suspicion and doubt. Think of the boy who cried wolf or of an unfaithful spouse, we can't believe everything we see or hear because there COULD not IS a secondary motive behind everything.
Thank you for being charitable. We need to talk about these things even its in a messy, inarticulate, spiteful discussion. These are important issues.
Can somebody please forward this to Tucker Carlson? He needs to know what is behind the propaganda of Putin.
Blessed Bishop Theodore intercede for the persecuted priests!
Good interview
Ay, that's my archbishop
I'm so sorry.
What a great blessing :)
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 No need! I may not agree with 100% of his claims in this interview, but he doesn't bend to the Kremlin as many here would have him do (opposite of the current thing and all).
I was following and interested in what the Archbishop was saying until he said "Tucker Carlson is a big problem for this country". What country exactly? Ukraine, the United States - who? My heart hurts for the innocent victims of this war in Ukraine, as it does for any war anywhere, but why is the United States being viewed by Ukraine and the proponents of aid within the US as the savior and sole defender of Ukraine's soverignty? (While at the same time they are not exercising contol and defense of the United States southern border?) Even if it is as simple as Ukraine good Russia bad - we do not have the money to continue to majorly support Ukraine. (Unless you are an advocate of Modern Monetary Theory which promotes the "printing of money" with abandon.) Where is Europe? Where is Australia? Where is Canada? Why are we footing the bill for the lion's share - yet we are not standing openly and without reserve against China's aggressions in Taiwan? Not to mention that China is standing with Russia - and we are kowtowing to China at every turn? The political entanglements between the Democrat Party in the US and Ukraine should not be flippantly ignored, nor the use of Zelensky in his speech before Congress as a means to morally strongarm the Republicans into capitulating to a 7.1 Trillion Omnibus Spending package that we can't afford and which is filled with left-wing goodies (in addition to the 50 billion for Ukraine). Ukraine aid should have been a stand-alone bill - yet it wasn't because the Democrats wouldn't allow it. If it is really about the plight of the Ukraine people and the common good, this wouldn't have been an issue. There are more questions than there are answers - including oversight of the funds that are sent to Ukraine. Prudential judgment does not overlook all of this and just look the other way while handing over carte blanche.
Totally agree, Lynne! Zelenskyy has become a sacred cow to the left. Holding the Ukrainian government accountable for how it spends our tax dollars has somehow also been confused by the left as some kind of Russian talking point. In all honestly, this isn’t our fight. If the left would like to strap on some boots and fight for Ukraine have at it!! But America is a sovereign country, and I’m still not entirely sure why it’s our responsibility to arm every country in Europe with bullets, guns and missile defense systems. Especially when our schools need repair, our veterans are homeless and suicidal, and our southern border has millions of pounds of fentanyl flooding though it every day that our own people are addicted to and dying from.
Tucker carlson is a problem for both. He parrots Putins talking points constantly. I RESPECT MANY conservatives, but Tucker is either gravely confused or on the Fsb payroll.
Croatia is western catolic not is ten
Ja Sam grko katolik iz hrvatske
What about the Minsk Accord?
Broken by Russia long ago
@@volusian95 Russia wasn't fighting there at that time.
But other than that, both sides broke it and we ex Ukrainian president said that they were just buying time with it, so there was no real intention of upholding it.
@@volusian95 Russia is not a party to it
@@Wlof25 In a recent interview Angele Merkel stated that the 2014 Minsk agreement was just a tactic to prepare Ukraine for war. They never had any intentions of upholding it.
Let’s be honest, the USA, NATO simply shifted their money making enterprise from Iraq and Afghanistan to Ukraine.
And the Ukranian people be damned. The profits being made in Ukraine will dwarf the billions from the middle east, And the Ukranian people be damned !
Europe is in a right state because of these backfiring sanctions agaisnt Russia
It's Amazing how Europe, especially Germany, has simply succumbed to all these psychopathic war mongoring Neocons. Mind Boggling really, when you consider what they always leave behind!.
@@Wlof25 russian sof was in ukraine since 2014, so yes russian soldiers were there already
"Observe good faith and justice tow[ar]ds. all Nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all.... in the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated.... [F]oreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government…. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”
Living as a slave is probably morally better than letting the world burn in a nuclear holocaust. Certainly the Jews survived its share of slavery, and Gods word has come out the other end of that far stronger. Christians were persecuted under pagan Rome for a very long time too. Life is not the be all and end all, but sacrificing all life for the freedom of a few seems to be giving in to worldly pleasures more than Godly righteousness.
There is a question of what would life be for the Ukrainians if it were completely or partially annexed. Certainly there is some peace already within the Russian Federation for minorities. Muslims in Bashkortostan or Dagestan, the native Uralic peoples of Siberia and the north. Less than ethnic Russians? Sure, but better than an irradiated fallout winter.
Ukrainians will not accept slavery. 90% of all rebellions in the Russian Empire were in Ukraine. So, it’s more of a “liberty or death” attitude among Ukrainians. Besides, russians openly said that at least 2 million pro-Ukrainian Ukrainians would need to be killed to pacify Ukraine. I hope you realize the kind of genocide you are asking Ukrainians to accept.
@@Alex.Kalashnik Your politicians openly talk about conducting ethnic cleansing in Crimea. You really thought this would be accepted?
@@Alex.Kalashnik Im not comparing slavery vs an attitude to keep fighting, for which Id recommend the latter. But specifically US involvement in a war they have no obligation to participate in, which may easily lead to nuclear war and the deaths of far more than 2 million Ukrainians. In the end, its not up to Europe or America to save Ukraine. Ukraine needs to fight for its own right to exist, and thus far has been doing pretty good.
Yes, we shouldn't stand up to evil because the consequences would be too great- like death. We should have told all our martyrs years ago to give it up...
@@hodapp512 Getting martyred to keep Russian ethnolinguistic territories is probably not a ticket to heaven. Sorry.
All this is so sad and very confusing- as an American catholic idk where to stand- so how about we just stay out of other country’s wars 🤷🏻♂️
This is a very compelling interview with both our Metropolitan Fr Jason Charron. It saddens me to see so many of our Conservative leaders here in the U.S. shy away from supporting Ukraine against Putin and his Kremlin Kraken army.
Very unfair to Tucker too here. Tucker's main point with the Ukrainian war stuff is basically "this isn't our problem." And it's not.
Was that his point? “It is pretty clear that Zelensky has no interest in freedom and democracy…He is a dictator.” He grossly oversimplified the whole situation without giving any background information regarding Zelensky’s justification for these actions.
Yes it is our problem, because the US forced Ukraine to give up its nuclear arsenal, third largest in the world, and in exchange gave Ukraine security assurance and promised to defend Ukrainian territory against encroachment.
Yeah no, Tucker has been peddling much more than that.
@@Alex.Kalashnik ok neocon
@@hodapp512 Tucker is correct. I am not going to die for Ukraine. You can if you want, I suppose. But you won't go over there either because you recognize that it isn't our problem.
Those old nun pictures, are just so creepy!
He should go on Tucker's show. I don't doubt Ukrainians are suffering but even he said Z is a dictator.
Subsidiarity - that’s when your country wants to join NATO and the European Common Market.
THANK YOU for coming here and speaking the truth that the GOP and FOX suppress.
And is Metropolitan Borys your Metropolitan? Are you part of the UGCC or the Ruthenian Church?-I forget.
UGCC
I knew this archbishop was off his rocker when he praised diversity 18 times in the first 5 minutes.
And so is the person providing a platform and defending this stuff. Completely disgusting. Yuck.
He mentioned 20+ ethnic groups, that is the literal definition of diversity. I know the modern political landscape has made diversity a dirty word, but it isn't. The purpose of the church is to be Catholic(universal/diverse).
@@crunchycousin5986 Exactly, the Catholic Church is famous for its diversity. Protestants divide when they disagree.
Then God should just take Putin away
Good luck to this comments section. Expect the servants of the Kremlin to appear like the devil whose name is spoken.
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Servants of the Kremlin = People That Disagree With Me
@@neilmcdonough4898 😒
Why is it that this is the one issue where civil conversation is impossible? War is a high-stakes topic and we should be able to discuss different viewpoints level-headedly or lose our heads to the wills of the powerful on any side. "Servants of the Kremlin" is not a good faith comment.
@@IrvingNestorRandom I don't think those spamming all the defamation that they think now justifies Russians killing people are worth defining in any other way.
I hear the views here and Bottom line we as a country should have NEVER interfered. 2nd/3rd week in zel and putin were going to the table and then zelinski got the golden eggs.
Now so many senseless since then. This would have been OVER. Donbask wanted their own sovereignty they VOTED on it beginning of Feb. And invited Russia in to protect them from aslof neo nazi army of Ukraine but zelinski and USA refused to recognize the sovereignty of that state .
Anyway. Neither here nor there. Bottom line this would have dissolved by end of Feb. Now USA and other nations have this continued war on their hands.
This is a bad take and you are just parroting Putin talking points.
Seem to be a lot of Russianbtrolls here. Sad.
You means people that understand that Ukraine isn't any bet than Russia? Get off CNN. It's bad for you.
Yes, it’s the unfortunate reality of russian-sponsored propaganda.
I am Ukrainian-American and I voted for Trump. I believe russians were scared of Trump and wouldn’t start a full-scale invasion of Ukraine if he was in power.
That priest with the white beard looks like a living icon
bishop*
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He looks like a living Propagandist
@@E.D.B oh?
With all due respect if this man is actually a Christian, but his presentation is simply assertion of the jewish + US State Dept + CIA view of the world. Opposition media and parties are suppressed in the Ukraine. It is not "democracy." BTW the famine orchestrated in the 30s was also jewish, not "Russian."
what a bunch of lies lol
"I believe in the sovereignty of my Ukrainian homeland, as my ancestors did for centuries"
"WOW UH OKAY CIA"
@@volusian95 Then you were misinformed. The Ukraine was never sovereign before 1990. Ever. Read the first chapter of Solzhenitsyn's Two Hundred Years Together to get your first intro history.
Let's say for the sake of argument that its true: Ukraine isn't a democracy. But neither is Russia, correct? But Russia invaded a sovereign country, Ukraine didn't. They are not moral equivalents. My 1st grader can understand that.
@@timharris2291 Ukrainian People’s Republic existed between 1917 and 1920 to look at the closest example. What you are claiming are simply lies.
It's time eastern catholic and byzantine catholic should be mainstream and existing Roman catholic should change the ideology to these traditions. Subscriber from india
Matt pls have someone from kerala state india in your interview . BTW they are present in usa as well
Um ….nope
I don't get you, the Latin Catholics constitute around 98% of the catholic Church , all the other 23 churches combine to form the rest 2% . All these churches are very diffrent from each other that we cannot consider them as one church. Btw, I'm also from Kerala and a syro Malabar catholic.
Uh, why?
Every Pope of Rome from Our Holy Father Leo XIII has had to assert and re-assert the fact that Eastern Catholics not only have a right but a duty to maintain their unique and exclusive practices and expressions of the faith tradition. These Popes have had to do this because they realize that such demands for assimilation would result in the elimination of who they are and what they stand for .
Roman Catholic Bishop John Ireland sought to impose upon Eastern Catholics in such a way and caused a grave scandal which led many of those people out of communion with Rome and in effect led to the creation of the Orthodox Church of America, in fact many in the OCA consider him to be the founding Bishop of the OCA I know he was a Roman Catholic Bishop.
So to sum it up anyone who suggests such a thing is extraordinarily ignorant of History and is actually going against the mandates of multiple papacies for over a century. I get it though, there are many fundamentalist Roman Catholics that espouse this nonsense due to some semblance of Roman Catholic triumphalism that they have chosen to believe in.
It is a shame the Carlson has drunk the Putin Koolaid. I otherwise have enjoyed his show, but his uncritical acceptance of vatnik propaganda is just sad.
Using an ethnic slur? How Christian. lol
@@Markusctfldl boo hoo
Do you believe that pro Ukraine propaganda also exists?
@@MikeyJMJ yes so what?
Do you believe that a city like kherson (77% ethnic ukrainians before the war) would vote 87,5% for joining russia?
@@MikeyJMJ Sure it does. What’s your point?
This is embarrassing propaganda
Matt, you need to backtrack on Carlson. Aquinas? If you truly believe in Aquinas. Anyone driven by reason, should see through him.
Tucker Carlson lost any credibility as a source on Ukraine after constantly having Colonel MacGregor on who had his predictions proven wrong every week. It's one thing to have him on once and he was wrong, it's another thing to cling onto him as some sort of enlightened geopolitical commentator who is proven wrong every time he speaks.
One too many pints.
......i expect it to be a little inaccurate
Well there is the first one.
What is "it?"
@@cbrad-eo6nt the video. While i'd want to keep an open mind to me it seems likely that this video is going to have a very western slant. Obviously, as suggested by the person above that makes me some russian bot, and there is no possible way that i just want a more neutral case for the war, as no side is entirely innocent here.
There was never a “coup” in Ukraine. You’re repeating russian propaganda.
@AUSTRALOPITHECUS AFARENSIS
@AUSTRALOPITHECUS AFARENSIS I find it hard to trust any government affiliated entity from the US, UK, RUSSIA, OR UKRAINE. I am on the side of the Ukrainian people because they, for the most part, are the innocents suffering due to forced circumstances out of their control.
That was a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Worse a wolf in shepherd’s clothing.
🧷 the two world vessel in full sail deposits peace time ground troopers as guards for the walking observer. They collect the uncertainty as navigation markers toward a turning into the world that knows peace 🕊️ The journalist's have done their work ... it is time to see the smog (worm) from the fog (intimacy).
@@peroercegovac1973 we only know peace and the cause of smog.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
I’m sorry but this archbishop can only speak in propaganda. Like his cadence is like an MKULTRA victim. I’m pro russian and this only made me morso. I pray for his flock and for peace in the ukraine, and for the Russians now being persecuted by zelensky.
@@chorzta are you equally sad at the pro Ukraine comments? Neither side deserves praise.
Ukraine needs to respect agreements and stop being a NATO stooge. Russia wouldn't feel obligated to invade if Ukraine wasn't run by actually terrorists installed by NATO
He is merely presenting the view from the ground on Ukraine. How is that propaganda?
This is the worst interview I have ever seen on this channel.
I couldn't finish it. These men don't know what they don't know. They really do not.
I'm sorry to see this misrepresentation aired on this channel.
Ugayine propaganda
Please invite Tucker Carlson on your show . We all need to understand the truth. I know their are three truths: yours, mine and the real truth.
This has to be the most biased and propagandistic speaker you’ve had on. Can you please interview somebody who will challenge his ideas? We need balance!
I respect the office of the Archbishop, but he showed his political cards hard as soon as he brought up Tucker Carlson. Why is the archbishop so obsessed with bashing Tucker? Tucker and other conservatives simply question the billions of tax payer dollars being sent to Ukraine and why no other country comes close to “donating” the same; not to mention the issues stateside that money could be going towards. The archbishop only mentions the name “Zelensky” once…in passing. He also never touches the involvement of Biden (or any other American politician) in Ukraine money laundering schemes. This has absolutely nothing to do with “supporting” Russia, but his leftist politics choose to polarize themselves with assuming so. If America helps pull Ukraine in with NATO, there is a very real possibility of nuclear war…is the archbishop really willing to hinge nuclear war on his leftist distaste of Tucker Carlson?? Let’s not forget many Ukrainians also wanted Russia to invade, so this “war” is not so easy to comprehend. No one wants Russia to “win”, Tucker/conservatives simply don’t want America to provoke a nuclear war for the sake of political money laundering in a foreign country, far be it from being “pro-Russia”…
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Not one word about the Maidan Coup and the Nazi murderer about men women and children in Donbas!!! Let’s pray for peace!!!