I have both. I'm a developer and I've had the MX Keys for almost 3 years. If feels good to type on. To be honest, I don't care about all the extra features too much, including backlight, because I never use my computer in the dark. I'm disappointed with the longevity of MX Keys: at this price point, I expect a product to be durable, while a key broke after only 2/2.5 years and no replacement is possible. It's also very easy to break stuff when you disassemble the keys. Another cons was that it suffered from a bug for which sometimes the "volume up/down" functions got stuck and I had to turn the keybord off. So, why did I buy another MX Keys? First, familiarity: changing keyboard can be frustrating and require a period of adaptation. Second, I like the low-profile and couldn't find any decent alternative. Coming to MX keys S, honestly it feels like a cheaper version of old MX keys, even though it costs more. Typing feels better on the old one. The back plastic is better quality and more "refined" on old. Without backlight, the characters are more visible on the old one. Backlight is much less homogeneous on new version. My MX Keys S also arrived with the "Enter" key defective (higher on one side). I expect this keyboard to last even less than the old one. I'm going to return it because of the defect and I'm not sure if I'm going to rebuy it.
it‘s been awhile since i used it. My recall is that the keys backlight is OS independent. I just tested. Tap once or twice, F6 key to turn it off. To turn it back on, tap F7. The two keys have icons: a half sun‘s rays on top of a horizon line. Smaller icon on F6. Paired or not, backlighting activity works as described. Mine is the MX Keys, all black, PC but works with my M1 Mac mini, my iPad pro M2 and my Android or ChromeOS. I’m surprised that any work because i could be more careful. - WARN 😢 I have read that the software was quirky with the M1 devices. Not an issue if you’re not on an Apple device and doing ubuntu etc -. A second warn 😢: be certain that Ubuntu doesn’t force a firmware on the keyboard. I had that headache when i tried Linux and soured me on learning it. The MX Keys i have still often sells for full price after years! Shop around for a reliable reseller.
The original MX Keys' 5sec backlight is increibly frustrating!! Logitech won't do a simple software update on it because they want you to buy the S model. I personally won't be buying from Logitech again as a result of this incident. ... Great review, by the way.
I got universal dongle. My keys is YR0073., All Black. After a year, it still has power. I‘d forgotten its keys had backlight. Love that it can work with 3 devices, the main reason I purchased. Your video was concise and to the point. I‘m always how some talk hands-on but never specific as you.
Thank you so much for the really good info!!! Just a question: do you know if the height of the the keycap of "MX Keys Mini" is the same as "MX Keys" or "MX Keys S"? Just looking for an answer for this question before buying, but nowhere with this info. Many thanks
Just picked up the S for my work set up. It’s great to type on once you get used to the layout, the F Keys are shifted right a bit for that beefy escape 😂.
So basically the function keys on the mx keys s is taken from the mx keys mini. Back then the regular mx keys and mx keys mini are different based on the keycaps and the key function
In Logi Options, the percentage is only shown for devices that connect with Bolt receiver. BUT, you can see the percentage of the MX Keys in the Logi Bolt app, which is the tool to pair Logi Bolt compatible devices with the Logi Bolt receiver. What an irony!
Gibt es denn bei deiner Tastatur keinen Unterschied bei den Farben der Buchstaben auf den Tasten? Bei mir sind auf der neuen MX Keys S durchsichtige Buchstaben und auf der alten eher milchige Buchstaben. Das führt dazu, dass die Beleuchtung der Buchstaben sehr unregelmäßig aussieht. Ist das bei dir nicht so?! VG Markus
Can you tell if there is any difference between both when it comes to the "quietness"? Because that is the real reason, that I am looking towards those two keyboards... And as well battery life, thas is SUPPER important, when you move from wire to wireless technology... Thanks in advance.
How is that possible that you have long left shift in both keyboards? Every picture at shops shows that they sell only with short shift. How can I be sure which one to get to have long shift?
Deal breaker for me was the mission control. I spam that bad boy on a daily basis. If the new S for mac had the mission control, it would have been a done deal.
It took to logitech almoust 4 YEARS to make backlight last longer than 5 sec. There were hundred complains about it and they just released new keyboard for same price instead of releasing software update🤣 Bravo Logitech!
the catch is that with 30 seconds backlight on set your battery will last only a few days. Disappointing. I'm actually considering to return the S and buy the old model because of that.
Stop buying planned e-waste products. They could easily have opted for 2x rechargeable AAs and a latch but went through the trouble of almost non-serviceable access and special, soon dead LiIon battery. There must be better options for most (low profile Keychron or similar)
Am I wrong or the older model has letters being more visible without any backlight as they're white in comparison to the S model where letters are grey and so not very visible unless you turn backlight on?
I appreciate your review on the Logitech MX S Keyboard. I just bought it and I really like it. It has great functionality and is comfortable to type. The only issue I am having is sometimes when I’m typing a letter decides to go rough and runs thru - RRRRRRRRRR. Any letter. It doesn’t seem like the key is stuck on the keyboard. I use the logic bolt and not the bluetooth. I use it for work and so I’m not able to download the APP on the company computer. What would you recommend? Am I able to download the software without the APP? I would appreciate your advice
omg i sooo envy you managed to get a proper us layout 🤩 those fucks (yes, i am that angry) at Logi think Europe all want that dorky tall Enter and narrow left Shift
My misread. One thing to remember, make it forgotten under any previous device. Turn bluetooth off and only turn it back on until you get the quick flashing slot on you PC or Mac. Lots of tech, some seem knowledgeable.
I have both. I'm a developer and I've had the MX Keys for almost 3 years. If feels good to type on. To be honest, I don't care about all the extra features too much, including backlight, because I never use my computer in the dark. I'm disappointed with the longevity of MX Keys: at this price point, I expect a product to be durable, while a key broke after only 2/2.5 years and no replacement is possible. It's also very easy to break stuff when you disassemble the keys. Another cons was that it suffered from a bug for which sometimes the "volume up/down" functions got stuck and I had to turn the keybord off.
So, why did I buy another MX Keys? First, familiarity: changing keyboard can be frustrating and require a period of adaptation. Second, I like the low-profile and couldn't find any decent alternative.
Coming to MX keys S, honestly it feels like a cheaper version of old MX keys, even though it costs more. Typing feels better on the old one. The back plastic is better quality and more "refined" on old. Without backlight, the characters are more visible on the old one. Backlight is much less homogeneous on new version. My MX Keys S also arrived with the "Enter" key defective (higher on one side). I expect this keyboard to last even less than the old one. I'm going to return it because of the defect and I'm not sure if I'm going to rebuy it.
Can the backlight be turned off on the MX Keys (original)? I want to use it on Ubuntu.
it‘s been awhile since i used it. My recall is that the keys backlight is OS independent. I just tested. Tap once or twice, F6 key to turn it off. To turn it back on, tap F7. The two keys have icons: a half sun‘s rays on top of a horizon line. Smaller icon on F6. Paired or not, backlighting activity works as described.
Mine is the MX Keys, all black, PC but works with my M1 Mac mini, my iPad pro M2 and my Android or ChromeOS. I’m surprised that any work because i could be more careful.
- WARN 😢 I have read that the software was quirky with the M1 devices. Not an issue if you’re not on an Apple device and doing ubuntu etc
-. A second warn 😢: be certain that Ubuntu doesn’t force a firmware on the keyboard. I had that headache when i tried Linux and soured me on learning it.
The MX Keys i have still often sells for full price after years! Shop around for a reliable reseller.
Thanks for the review man. Saved me lots of time agonizing.
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The backlighting customization being only in the S version is totally a joke!
especially considering the price we paid for it!
the original MX Keys can report battery percentage as well but i think it's limited to the macOS and Windows settings menus, not the Logitech app.
The original MX Keys' 5sec backlight is increibly frustrating!! Logitech won't do a simple software update on it because they want you to buy the S model. I personally won't be buying from Logitech again as a result of this incident. ... Great review, by the way.
Did they solve the backlight iusse with this new model? On the original one I had to remove the proximity sensor as it was very distracting.
I have the new version (S) and I had to set backlight to 5 seconds anyway or the battery will only last a few days. Very disappointing.
I got universal dongle. My keys is YR0073., All Black. After a year, it still has power. I‘d forgotten its keys had backlight. Love that it can work with 3 devices, the main reason I purchased. Your video was concise and to the point. I‘m always how some talk hands-on but never specific as you.
Hope it can have typing sound test.
Thank you so much!! Very useful and in detail video
Thank you so much for the really good info!!! Just a question: do you know if the height of the the keycap of "MX Keys Mini" is the same as "MX Keys" or "MX Keys S"?
Just looking for an answer for this question before buying, but nowhere with this info. Many thanks
Just picked up the S for my work set up. It’s great to type on once you get used to the layout, the F Keys are shifted right a bit for that beefy escape 😂.
So basically the function keys on the mx keys s is taken from the mx keys mini. Back then the regular mx keys and mx keys mini are different based on the keycaps and the key function
Good review. I'm using the MX Keys, and the battery percentage is shown in the "Logi Tune" App
In Logi Options, the percentage is only shown for devices that connect with Bolt receiver.
BUT, you can see the percentage of the MX Keys in the Logi Bolt app, which is the tool to pair Logi Bolt compatible devices with the Logi Bolt receiver.
What an irony!
how long does a full charged battery will last to you with backlight on?
Gibt es denn bei deiner Tastatur keinen Unterschied bei den Farben der Buchstaben auf den Tasten? Bei mir sind auf der neuen MX Keys S durchsichtige Buchstaben und auf der alten eher milchige Buchstaben. Das führt dazu, dass die Beleuchtung der Buchstaben sehr unregelmäßig aussieht. Ist das bei dir nicht so?! VG Markus
0:30 Does it works without recover?
Can you tell if there is any difference between both when it comes to the "quietness"? Because that is the real reason, that I am looking towards those two keyboards... And as well battery life, thas is SUPPER important, when you move from wire to wireless technology...
Thanks in advance.
I don't get it, watched this video and separately about the MX Key S, you show different receivers but don't mention anything about it...
How is that possible that you have long left shift in both keyboards? Every picture at shops shows that they sell only with short shift. How can I be sure which one to get to have long shift?
Deal breaker for me was the mission control. I spam that bad boy on a daily basis. If the new S for mac had the mission control, it would have been a done deal.
Receiver is kind of a big deal if you have or plan using other accessories with the same receiver.
It took to logitech almoust 4 YEARS to make backlight last longer than 5 sec. There were hundred complains about it and they just released new keyboard for same price instead of releasing software update🤣 Bravo Logitech!
the catch is that with 30 seconds backlight on set your battery will last only a few days. Disappointing. I'm actually considering to return the S and buy the old model because of that.
Stop buying planned e-waste products. They could easily have opted for 2x rechargeable AAs and a latch but went through the trouble of almost non-serviceable access and special, soon dead LiIon battery. There must be better options for most (low profile Keychron or similar)
Am I wrong or the older model has letters being more visible without any backlight as they're white in comparison to the S model where letters are grey and so not very visible unless you turn backlight on?
He confirms that on the video.
nice, helpful review!
I appreciate your review on the Logitech MX S Keyboard. I just bought it and I really like it. It has great functionality and is comfortable to type. The only issue I am having is sometimes when I’m typing a letter decides to go rough and runs thru - RRRRRRRRRR. Any letter. It doesn’t seem like the key is stuck on the keyboard. I use the logic bolt and not the bluetooth. I use it for work and so I’m not able to download the APP on the company computer. What would you recommend? Am I able to download the software without the APP? I would appreciate your advice
Had the same problem, but it seemed to resolved itself with a driver update... Just didn't noticed it anymore
Very nice and unique review. Thanks alot!
What about switching the keyboard together with the mouse through keys between computers, is there any progress?
This I would like to know too
You kinda look like the neardy guy from the movie "Road Trip".
omg i sooo envy you managed to get a proper us layout 🤩 those fucks (yes, i am that angry) at Logi think Europe all want that dorky tall Enter and narrow left Shift
Anyone knows where to buy the ansi layout? Logitech sells only ISO in EU…
only from US - ex. ebay :(
+1
Today I learned that there is a black version of the MX Keys. Never seen it before - apparently not available in my country.
Thank you for the video
Is S Version also comes in Logitech Keys Mini?
No need since the mini already has the features of the S.
I can't conect my keys s. It was easy connecting with mobile or ipad but on pc it just doesn't connect. Do you have any advice?
My misread. One thing to remember, make it forgotten under any previous device. Turn bluetooth off and only turn it back on until you get the quick flashing slot on you PC or Mac.
Lots of tech, some seem knowledgeable.
Okay, staying with my Keychron.
is the new one still painted plastic to look like metal.
Keychron q6 is the phantom. Asus strix 96 is the wraith. Best of 2023. The Keychron (with brown switches) is like, theraputic to type on.
Are they keys interchangeable between them?
You said it wrong. When it's bright the keys are brighter, and when it's dark the keys are darker.
Thank you
thanks
I will dislike and report every video of yours until you take that preaching video off your descriptions
This has to be the most disappointing upgrade since the last every iPhone ever.