Super Charging Europe with Michiel Langezaal | The Fully Charged Podcast
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This week Robert speaks with Fastned co-founder Michiel Langezaal about their growing roll out of premium charging stations across Europe.
With the aim to provide electric vehicle drivers with “the most welcoming charging experience”, Michiel shares his insights and perspective on this fast growing and constantly developing essential piece of the electrification of transportation puzzle.
Fastned is a Dutch company that owns and operates a network of over 200 EV charging stations in the Netherlands, Germany, the United Kingdom, Belgium, and Switzerland. Fastned was co-founded back in 2012 by Michiel Langezaal and Bart Lubbers. The first British location was in Sunderland, Fastned now has stations in Oxford, Newcastle, London, Glasgow and more.
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FastNed is one of my go to chargers. They just work. Plug the charger into the vehicle and the charge starts without the need for an app or contactless payment (once set up). Effortless, fast, reliable and plentiful.
When you consider that other suppliers are using the same chargers and they don’t work as well/consistently, then clearly FasNed have got the whole system right.
We really need more NACS chargers! That is by far the best way to go.
Being able to charge the car without unhooking the caravan is a good selling point.
caravan should have batteries as well, that could be hooked into house system when not in use.
@@dailyrider2975 I saw some caravan that had batteries and motors to do regen-braking and to help with stability.
As a Tesla owner with a hitch, this is one area where Musk was - and still is - extremely short-sighted. It's fairly clear that Musk doesn't want EVs towing anything. One day I was guilty of taking up 4 Supercharger stalls because there was no other way to plug in. And no, it's not reasonable for a plethora of reasons to expect people who are towing to unhook the trailer every single time you need to charge.
Meanwhile, Tesla still refuses to install Superchargers in a way that allows drivers to pull through charging stalls. There are a handfull of such Tesla charging stalls in the world, and a number of ones that allow you to pull nose-in instead of backing in, but that is sheer idiocy because forcing you to leave the trailer sticking out in the traffic lane is even worse than taking multiple charging stalls.
It's as though everybody is TRYING to prevent people from replacing ICE with EVs , even the EV manufacturers and charging networks.
@@zapfanzapfan saw a promo from Airstream about a caravan with batteries and motors that can help reduce the load on the tow car and regen for brakng, not production models yet but I think it needs to go that way.
@@Walczaktowers Yeah, I mentioned it in one of the comments above. I really like that idea which I guess also means the caravan can have an induction cook top instead of gas. Same idea of a motorized trailer might work for heavy trucks too so they can regen-brake without jackknifing and have a charge port in the rear so they can charge from a warehouse while loading/unloading.
How timely! I live in the Netherlands and often drive along our lovely country roads here in North Brabant (not highways). I was just wondering aloud if we had chanrging stations like Telsa put up in New Jersey in the US when I lived there. And behold! Bobbie Llew hears me and does an episode with a Dutch company! As someone who doesn't own my house, public chargers are very important to me. Now to get chargers at the rural gas stations and not just on the A roads! Bravo!
Excellent and positive interview, Robert. I just came back to London after my 2nd return trip to southern Spain with my iPace. It was noticable in both France and Spain how the charging infrastructure development is gathering pace fast, with new charging hubs under construction at many Services ("Aires"). On both trips - with the help of apps that show the real time status of chargers along my route (ABRP)- I did not have to queue for charging ONCE, total distance of the two trips over 6 000 mile, until I returned and found 2 of the 4 Ionity chargers at Folkstone offline.
Driving an EV through France and Spain is no longer difficult, even in a non-Tesla with some forward planning.
Looking forward to Fastned also going to the southwest of France and Spain?
I'm watching in Sydney and have already bought tickets. looking forward to it!
I'm stuck in Tasmania, or I'd find a way to hitch hike there, LOL.
@@PathosBedlam hitch a lift with a Sydney-Hobart returnee!
I'll be driving down from Brisbane for it. Polestar 2 with camper trailer in tow!
An Australian PM said ev's cant tow. However recent article in an Australian motoring association magazine showed how Polestar2 could tow. We need some initiative for charging stations on Australian highways. Great interview Robert.
Regenerative braking actually makes an electric vehicle, better for towing. The problem is range loss. Adding more DC fast chargers will help. But battery swapping, would be a better solution.
I have a Model S with a towbar and have a little utility "box" trailer. I also have a bike rack that I'm using constantly. (In Australia.)
Pulling a 1300kg camper behind my Polestar 2 I get about 28kWh/100k consumption, which would get me about 280km per charge.
280km per charge, is believable for towing, if it's all downhill....
@@nc3826 believe what you like. I have the facts.
We need this in Oahu, Hawaii! Electricity prices are high, EV adoption is high, and many ppl don’t have home charging options! Public charging is abysmal. Also for lvl 2…
I wasn’t looking forward to charging an electric motorcycle in the rain; but if FastNed covered bays become more widespread they would be my go-to. Something secure to lock the bike to would be great too! Not a single electric charging point in a motorcycle parking space in the country!
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
10:53 I wonder if anyone who ever asked the question "where does you power come from and what are your stations made of?" ever ONCE asked that question of the Gasoline Refueling stations?
@@zlmdragon. Are they all the same? Do the tanks leak, who checks them, what do you do with them afterwards? How are they supplied? By truck, then how much have those trucks leaked? How many people have died from accidents with gas trucks? What's all the environmental impact of this? These just a tiny fraction of questions you can come up with. But based on questions similar to these people, without finding answers (or really don't care) determine EV charging is terrible and so are EVs
I like the sound of the big yellow signs. I've been thinking this in the UK where there is the very occasional Gridserve logo on the motorway services signs alongside the McDonalds and M&S but no Tesla logo or others at those that have them. That visibility of infrastructure and subtle cues to people thinking of going EV does matter, as does the simplification and reliability of use. Even the obvious advantage of drive through charging not requiring any reversing. Like a motorway toll booth, this requires more space so not always possible when EV charging providers are searching for low cost land but I like that FastNed thought of this when it's something Tesla doesn't get right even in the few places where it's possible. Hopefully they set the standard to beat in this exploding field of business.
I look forward these podcast
I've used one fastned charger, it was the best charging experience I've had so far by a good margin. (That said havnt had a chance to try a Tesla supercharger yet)
Regarding the Electricity price debate.
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I would suggest investigating the "merit order" pricing system.
(Without posting a link... "Goodenergy" 😉)
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Basically
"Everything is priced at the level of the last generation source turned off"
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(The cheap method is charged to the consumer at the "going rate" of the expensive method)
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Historically, "the last source turned off" has been gas.
🤔
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That could (possibly) be justified when Gas was the predominant source....
But, for example,
In the UK last week, 52% of our energy came from *renewables* (almost all wind)
(32% Gas, 15% Nuclear)
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Reports indicate that
*Generating electricity from existing UK fossil gas power plants is THREE TIMES more expensive than from new onshore wind and almost twice that from new solar*
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For arguments sake, let's say double.
Let's assume nuclear and gas were at parity and the split with renewables was 50:50.
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*If priced proportionately at generation cost, that's a 25% reduction on the UK energy bill for the week*
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"Ah but that's an anomaly, there's normally much more gas used!!!"
so what?
We are essentially paying the *100% gas* price now.
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Insert data for your own country, you'll find a similar con job.
con job is a trolling wannabe RUclips expert pretending to understand the basics of grade school economics....
Electricity is fungible, so the only thing that matters is its marginal price.... anything that deviates from that price will cause an imbalance in the market and the grid....
@@nc3826
But if the marginal price is dictated by a source decreasing in proportion but relatively expensive, those paying for the commodity are being..... Screwed.
It's a con.
It is simple, you're screwed, because of a "lack of supply",.... due to short-sighted government policies.... a "merit order" pricing scheme, to keep the price down.... would result in Europe, becoming The next Venezuela....
So please try it and see how it turns out ;)
FastNed is awesome.
Thank you
If car parks like Tesco Cover their car parks with solar panels with cars parked under them with some batteries. instead of selling to the grid how many cars a day could they charge. my point is they have all that space car park and the shop roof. inset of selling fuel they can sell electricity to cars and make it from the sun at the same time.
There's a lot more than 2 Fastned in the uk.. 11 ☺️🙌 most.. bizarrely! are around Newcastle.
Love using them in NL.
Minor point of order: the other British Fastened chargers at Sandwich are excellent, of course, but they are *not* drive through. Just in case anyone with a trailer is thinking of using them..... Oh dear, I'm going to "do a Robert" now...because we just popped down there to try them out in our car I wasn't thinking of drive through at the time. However I definitely reversed in to park and so did someone on the charger next to me. If there were others I didn't notice...🤯
We are one of the people using only rapid charging as our landlord refuses to install even a 230V socket intomour garage - we have one there, but are not allowed to use it. The costs are quite high, but we will move in 6 months and that will be yhe end of it.
Look at “David Cebon “ University of Cambridge reports on future transport for commercial vehicles. Overhead in motion charging running down the inside of the main road network.
Please Fastned, come to Canada...
As a Yankee surrounded by fossil burgers these episodes give me hope, TY!
Yanks had heat pumps decades ago.....
It became obvious to me that when connecting to a fastNed the price of connection between my car and the pump was a very hefty price of £40.00. Is there a reason for such a large amount to clear the bank account for just a £5.00 charge. It wasn’t that I didn’t have it in my account, but if I had not would they have let me charge, I wonder.?
Used the Fastned chargers in Oxford recently, excellent experience, we just need more like them, especially in the “charging desert” that is south Devon once you’re past Exeter……
Sounds like South Western Victoria in Oz!! 😂
Yeah...Yeah, I was at FastNed Oxford the other day and guess what.... they weren't working! Yet the guy who came after me got free charging and me... nothing. This electric stuff is great, but all of the suppliers need to stop blowing their own trumpets and make stuff work. Oh yes and stop burning stuff by the way!
I don't see the fast charging network expanding as quickly in the USA. However we would benefit enormously if we did. Our electrical infrastructure has been ignored for far to long, many wild fires are caused by poor maintenance. So with charge stations will come upgrades to infrastructure. America will then be dragged kicking and screaming into the future.
North America needs to finalize the NACS as the charging standard before they can accelerate their charging infrastructure.
And on a different note: in my experience the customer service of FastNed is just excellent! And search for their advertisements on RUclips!
FastNed are in Sandwich and near the O2 in Raimac way as well.
BP is also doing EV chargers called BP Pulse I've just got my ev last week and I got 6 months free with BP pulse chargers not sure how many they are and the cost when the 6 months runs out is going to cost. I am the first person to get an EV a Vauxhall Mokka Ultimate in green it defiantly attracts attention I am lucky I have my own off-road 7kw charger by easee from Norway so far it's faultless and reliable I only charge at of peek times as I am with Scottish power so from 23.30 till 7.30 but it always charges fully way before that time usually about 3.30 hours to charge it fully as I charge it at about 40 per cent the car is awesome I love it as I am a gizmo person it has it all it parks itself keeps itself in the lanes so far I have got zero to sixty in 7.2 seconds in sports mode so why they put 8 seconds is beyond me maybe Reginald nole husband was driving it I do think this is the newer one with a different battery so that might be why anyway I love it and I love not paying through the nose for fuel as long as I use off-peak electricity so sofar so good.
27:00 Refineries produce a good portion of electricity themselves. So you shut one down, you don't gain the electricity from that to use elsewhere. Goggle quote: "Where do refineries get their electricity?
Nearly one-half the energy consumed by refineries is obtained from by-product refinery gas and coke, and about one-third is supplied by natural gas."
Exactly. Burning stuff. 🤔🙄
Shell is working on electric mobility already since 2016 and has accelerated the buildup of the network mainly by acquiring newmotion, but in the last few years by placing fast chargers at existing sites, in many cases in NL and Norway giving up pumps under the parapet and replace them with chargers.
28:13 best be asking and not looking back
Now I understand why Robert never mentions one of FastNed’s special features - Autocharge. It seems he normally travels around Europe in a Tesla so I suspect missed this great feature. Also they seem to have 5 UK locations with 150 + kW charging not two. Is the North East and Scotland too far north to count? 😮
Hi Robert, Could you cover the inverters and batteries from solax? The specs and price of the hybrid inverter and the tripple power batteries seems to be unbeatable... I was excited about myenergi, but from the spec, i think solax is still in the lead...
Two charging stations, one built with 24hr accessible toilets, one without. From experience, the one without is not only ‘not as convenient’; but will play its very own, and not insignificant, active role in dissuading/reversing electric vehicle adoption.
🧐Electric car prices are still way to high at the moment 💷
Yes, though ICE cars are cheap in the same sense that printers are cheap: it's a device you buy so you have to keep buying ink/fuel. obviously it will be be way better when EV prices come down - which they will.
So they are not. I now lease a Peugeot e208 for 20,000Km/year for the same money as a SEAT Ibiza that stood in front of my door. (tax, insurance, maintenance) Compared to the diesel price until November last year, it saved me an average of €40 per month in "fuel" costs.
Please don't think I'm anti EV or the whole transition business or something, but you'd better get moving to catch the Sydney show in March. The fastest trip the Cutty Sark ever did in the wool trade was 73 days and that was a return run. You can do it faster nowadays if you get a lift with Francois Gabart but he might shout at you if you get in his way while you're tucking into a tin of cold beans with a fork. Luxury.
Ifirstclassy ticket to Oz a la Quanty prob uses double the fuel of the Backpacker class. Just saying, the whole business is going to take a while - not in my remainers.
KBO on the transition front, but watch out for the private jets to COP27 factor. Our guy flew in a RAF Voyager, but they're a bit reluctant to tell us how many important necessaries were on board. I suppose the security folk would count and all the RAF peeps are inc.
Lovely cop27 quote from The Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit, "If you want emissions to come down, you want leaders in the room and media, scientists and stakeholders asking the important questions." One altered word suggestion could be farseholeders.
AutoCharge is great but will they support the Plug&Charge standard?
The NACS port is by far the best standard. The petition so standardize it as the North American Standard really needs to take off.
Question for Michiel
Why not FastNed at supermarkets?
Charge while you shop.
Try listening to the podcast.
Tesco are now charging for Pod point , i charged for 2 hrs the day before, Now no one is using them .
when you see most big supermarkets have lots of empty parking spaces it makes sense to turn some of them into charging points. Even if they are right over in the corner. The supermarkets could even subsedize the cost to attract customers.
ofc it is, but its not Fastned market
Some day it would be nice to do a Fully Charged Live on the East coast of the US. San Diego is 4500km from where we are.
They only go to Sunny locations.... East coast of the US, is too much like home....
@@nc3826 I would have thought Oregon would be more like home for them.
@@JackRussell021sure. but with all due respect, you are "missing the forest for (from) the trees" ;)
Ok I will say the elephant in the room: "in ten years time we will say, thank god that lunatic Putin forced us to accelerate everything, we won't build him a statue, but he does deserve some credit, for the sense of urgency people are feeling now" 😓
We need more people to talk about the NACS and how to transition over to getting the NACS as an EV charging standard!!! There are more NACS chargers than CCS and the NACS has a much higher peak charge rate at over 900kW, while CCS can only output a maximum of 360kW! There is a petition to congress to finalize a standard later this year, we need it to be NACS not CCS.
It lacks three phase. It’s a non starter.
@@RDowson that’s not a problem
@@declanphelan3485 It’s used everywhere…
@@RDowson No its not, there are more NACS chargers in North America than there are CCS chargers.
Sick of the plugs for Fully Charged Live. Glad I can skip them.
I try to exclusively use Fastned (when fast charging) and ignore the chargers of the fossil dinosaurs. What I'm still baffled by is that there is no unity in the road signs inidicating that there are fast chargers at high-way stop (I refuse to call it a petrol station). Who is responsible for those road signs along the Dutch highways?
Please cover electricity over Ethernet
That's for a different demographic. PoE is for low power devices even PoE++ can do about 60W max
Still can cover lights and smart home appliances
PoE is more for an investigation into "how can we reduce general energy *use* "?
@@johnnymonsters9717 My mistake, didn't realise that's what you meant. There's a hotel where that is done. It was covered in "Undecided with Matt Ferrell", titled "How Big Can You Make a Passive House?". They do it for the lights blinds... pretty much everything.