Narcissistic Baiting: How to Defend Yourself
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this video, I'm talking about how and why a narcissist baits you and how to handle narcissistic baiting.
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0:00-0:30: Introduction
0:30-2:09: What is narcissistic baiting?
2:09-4:25: How does it all start?
4:25-4:45: Why does a narcissist bait you?
4:45-8:47: 10 reasons a narcissist baits you
8:47-11:20: HOW to respond to narcissistic baiting
11:20-12:05: My number 1 piece of advice
#NPD #covertnarcissist #narcissism #narcissist #npd
Treat the narcissist like a wild animal. Avoid eye contact, don't move unnecessarily and keep quiet. This applies to strangers as well.
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Use a tranq dart if they need a vet 😂
No. Many of them will see it as submission. You look away or in the eye. Eye and look away so its like "i see and dont care"
@@evilzinabyssranger5695 I concur.
I used practices from horse whispering to achieve intimacy with my bpd partner
I think the “fishing bait” analogy is perfect.
Here are the 10 reasons why the narcissist baits us:
1: They're restless and in need of stimulation (4:44)
2: They're emotionally dysregulated so they create conflicts and chaos (5:00)
3: They're creating a smoke screen to make you look like the abuser (5:10)
4: They make you look bad in front of others as grounds for future smear campaign (5:31)
5: They set up a fight for their escape (5:55)
6: They need supply (e.g. attention, energy...) (6:11)
7: They need to provoke you to join their temper tantrum (6:43)
8: when they need resources, they provoke your feelings of guilt and obligation (7:10)
9: They bait to gain power, control and dominance (7:27)
10: They bait you to keep you confused (7:56)
Most often, they bait you for sex.
Using a sick cat to get contact with your emotional response , empathy for support of pet.
Once I learned about NPD in a boss, I could predict her actions, and baiting me was one common one. I didn't fall for it. She wanted to point out a reaction to others that I wouldn't give her. Going no contact in my job wasn't an option. It was an awful few years but I almost think it was so important for me to have that experience because now I recognize the tactics much sooner, and I stay well away from narcs. I try to educate others, too, about their tactics, to show how predictable their behavior is, and how others can avoid becoming a victim of these bullies with thin skin.
I wish a friend like you
I agree with that, I think it was important to go through. I feel grateful to the evil people who have hurt me, because their abuses taught me a lot about themselves, others & myself. I know I have to change my gullible trusting nature, ring-fence myself & impose boundaries, as they will never change their abusive behaviour. I knew, for a very long time, that my "father" is a selfish, dictatorial, egotistic, superior & dominant t*at, but I didn't realise how pathological his need for power & control is until I googled "why does my father see my sticking up for myself as disrespectful behaviour"? I found out that it's because he is a grade-A narcissist. Everything I read made sense about him & made sense finally out of my childhood. That also led me to finally understand an ex who abused me in every way you can imagine bar thumping me. I knew, that how he had treated me for 7 years was wrong, but I'd put it solely down to "mummy issues". I was wrong. He is a narc, because of his equally self-absorbed narc mother's base behaviour. But my "father" was not abused, he was spoiled. He was by his parents loved, adored, worshipped even, he was praised, encouraged, supported - he needed & wanted for naught. He was privately educated on my Grandpa's pensions. Somebody showed him how to be an entitled bigot. Someone showed him the benefits of being so nasty to those he perceives as weak, fair game. This terminology & the details of the motives behind narcissistic abuse also explained the behaviour & motives of a former manager. The only difference in that is, I had the last laugh - when I left having been unable to take any more of being played assorted games with (the last straw was her, in winter, having facilities put the air-con on, above my desk every day). Soon, all of the project managers & the ops director, the compliance officer too, discovered how much of the output of the department came from & was supported by me. They found her to be a manager that couldn't manage, that wasn't managing. My old shift buddy rang me & in whispering giggles (his cubicle was the other side of hers) told me of her ineptitude, which not to me or he, but to many in our department had come as a surprise. He told me also of her inability to grasp a single function that I had diligently performed. While she had taken credit for all my work, she had paid no attention to how I did it, she couldn't even make sense of the process & procedure manuals I had built & used to implement departmental training with. I had to put my hand over the mouthpiece, because I didn't want to deafen Dave with my uproarious cackling. Her first day I had to show her how to attach an Excel spreadsheet to an email. It didn't get much better, she had to be shown multiple times how to do things, after which she couldn't retain it & had to ask me again. With my "father", I have no hope of having the last laugh. I've not seen/ spoken to him in nearly a year, but he's still of course laughing at my expense. Every rude, disrespectful, gaslighting/ manipulative text he sends, he knows, without even witnessing a reaction, how it has affected me. He's been using my own vulnerable mind against me all my life. I say again, I am though grateful to these monsters for their cruelty, it has wiped my eyes & I can spot one at 10 paces now, so, like you, I stay well away. If I fall victim again, it will be my own stupid fault.
I am currently in no contact at work with top 2 managers.
I gave the powers that be a quick lesson on cluster B.
Life can get very surreal on the job, in romance, friendship...; name it!
Ironically, I always respond in paraphrased lyrics...
My favorite response to narcissistic attacks is.... don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining...
Last narco I dated I called, "Slick "
When she asked why I replied, "cuz I keep falling for you..."
I guess what I am saying as the only son of a violent narco mom is.... Absurdity directed at a narc really throws em for a loop.
I once asked my mom in 76, "why you always look like you sucking lemons 🍋?"
It was worth the ruckus ...
YMMV
@@cosmicstargazer10
Shine on star gazer ❤
Bullies with thin skin
The person I was talking to never got a reaction from me because I never fully trusted that person. I have had good relationships and this one seemed controlling. He has tried many baiting techniques that did not work. I am a peaceful person who enjoys the things I do.
Change yourself, as you cannot change the Narcissist. In a certain way "Be a lamp unto yourself".
They bait you.. and when you tell someone, they look at YOU, like your crazy. This is the problem when you go see a therapist. Oh no.. People aren't like that. That's only your perception and we can drug you for that. You just need to take these pills and calm down.
That's how you know the hook is set.
The solution is to make friends with the One Who has eternally never told a lie... God. Let me know if you want to know more
So true, its scary.
This is so true. Part of the pleasure they receive is from the chaos they create, and how they can manipulate others against you. Makes them feel so powerful.
@@jellybean6778 I hate the youtube messaging system... I don't know what message you're responding too...
@@Jess-kn8vl because of the youtube messaging system, I don't know what message you're responding too. I need you to fill me in if theres to be an actual association or connection. thumbs up
These videos changed my friggin' life. It has helped me with others and given me the tools to make sure i keep myself functional and healthy too. Its unbelievable how useful these insights are. Remember to look inward as well, because if you are a part of the problem you have to know how to keep your side clean.
I'm simply devouring your content. I've seen plenty of content or narcissism in general, but female covert narcissists are RARELY covered. It took me 4 years and a very toxic discard phase to realize what was happening in my life. Thank you, seriously. It really does help to be seen in some way.
Edit: Oh, yeah, of course I felt like I was the narc in the end. And of course she made me feel like it.
Same. Going through the split up now.
Same
same. it was 10 years ago and watching these videos are making me understand so much about the relationship
I hate to admit that while I find this content so fascinating and resonant in that it helps me clearly identify that I did in fact date a narcissist for years, it also makes me feel a great deal of shame that I was such a sucker. It’s kind of embarrassing that everyone was so right and I simply could not see the reality of who I was with.he broke me down so utterly and completely I really thought he had my best interest at heart. Ha!
I feel the same, I have been trying to forgive myself for about four years now.
I can’t believe how well you know my gf. I’m in shock.
And my husband. I’m not. He got it from his Father.
Yes. I took every bait that was dangling before my face. It was the most confusing and draining relationship I ever had. I wish I had known that much about narcissistic behaviour back then.
Love Lisa's clear simple thinking that rings so true to those of us that are vulnerable to being hooked by narcissists. The clarity she espouses is a key step to reconnecting with our authentic and more contented selves. Thanks again.
This is one of Lise's videos that helps me plan how to deal with crazy making & infuriating behavior. Stay calm and make notes observing the baiting strategies from an outsider pov. My power will be in staying calm....proving her wrong that I need anger management.
Hey Lisa, Thanks for another Video ❤
Thank you so much Lise for this illuminating guidance.
Thank you for this ❤
Spot on with these examples! Thank you
Great analysis and I love the fishing analogy.
Thanks Lise for great advice as always from you
That was great advice lisa thank you!!❤✌️👍
Great video, thanks!
The in-relationship advice (besides end it, which may already have been accepted) is so great.
Omg, the best bait and narcissist abuse description i have encountered on youtube ❤
This was extremely informative. I appreciate your insight and advice.
God bless you Lise
I wish i had seen this a while ago.
You are wonderful, amazing and beautiful. Keep up all the good work. From Adam in UK.
Some amazing points here Lise, thank you very much. Coming from a 19 year old that really understands the power of psychological manipulation. Please keep up the good work!
Thank you… I sure wish I’d had such understanding and insights about psychological manipulation at the age of 19!
The one quality I learned to develop over the past four years was to control my emotions when dealing with my the one whom is on the narcissistic spectrum. I listen as they act immature, laugh inside, and acknowledge their crazy emotional rant with a calm response of "thanks for expressing yourself, now I know how you feel, now that I listen to you let me finish my thought", knowing they aren't listening but probably frustrated that I didn't take the bait, hahahaha.
Living this. But not playing into it. 💪🏽👍🏽
narcissism is totally acceptable, and even encourage in todays society. me me me me mine, and what i can get from you, you owe me, is the basis of all relationships today. narcs, and non narcs alike. "us" anything is a thing of the past.
First off I have to thank Lisa for supporting men in these matters, there’s not enough resources for men being abused by a female Narcissist. Second, I’d like to say I’ve been using AI GPT to filter all my communications with my ex regarding co parenting all communications go through email, for record, due to the excessive manipulation, shaming, guilting, gaslighting, baiting, minimizing. I have to say it’s been a complete game changer for me. Hopefully this can help someone else.
Thank you Lisa for everything you’re doing, your truly appreciated!
Hi there, you're so right, generally you only find resources for dealing with a male narc. There are male empaths too, just as vulnerable to being abused, narc abuse is just as damaging to men. There are a lot of people that don't understand how there could be men that are being abused by narc women, but I know it goes on because of my ex-friend. I now think that all the behaviour she was smearing her ex for, was designed & instigated by her, to discredit, destabilise, dement & destroy him. She controlled, guilt-tripped & manipulated me for 3 lost years, so I know she is more than capable of it. You're doing the best you can, having an audit trail of any/ all communication. I'm doing the same with my narc "father" & his 2nd wife. Lise & her videos are such a valuable resource for men, as much as for us women & that can only be a good thing. I'm really sad to think of how hard it is for you to co-parent with her. My mother had a job on her hands dealing with her monstrous ex/ my "father". It was tough on us kids. I think you already remind yours that you will always be there for them & how much you love them. One day they'll be all grown up & it will be easier. I hope that you are having a good day today, feeling strong & happy, I hope that the sun shines on you perpetually. One:LOVE.
Gpt is not ai
@@soberanisfam1323
ChatGPT stands for Chat Generative Pre-trained Transformer. It's an artificial intelligence (AI) chatbot that can process natural human language and generate a response.
@@soberanisfam1323 simple google search.
When someone is constantly gaslighting, belittling, shaming, and always looking for a toxic response, chat gpt will deliver without emotion and if you make the appropriate prompts for example, write out your response and then ask chat gpt to reword appropriately. It’s absolutely amazing taking the stress out dealing with type of personality.
It’s saving me from heartache and stress.
These arent only catered for men!! i am a female with covert narc mom and friendships. I attract jealous women all the time that will lovebomb and put me on pedestal at first 😂
They should teach this in counter-intelligence training ❤
Thank God for these videos. My office narcissist is pissed off now. Always angry now. He was so desperate he sent out a bizarre email with everyone copied in??? He lost control and we watched his behavior like an experiment. I monitor him as a doctor monitors a psych. patient.
A female covert narcissist orchestrates the conditions that will ensure her prophecies to be self-fulfilling of her partner. That has been some of my experience anyway.
I suspect I have been doing this in my relationships with women. Self-fulfilling prophecy of women being horrible by falling into toxic relationships out of desperation. It’s easy to irrationally generalize from our limited life experience. I guess I just need to make a real effort at finding quality women, or better yet, being well enough myself to attract healthy, quality women.
Wow this rings so true for my last g/f.
Your videos have helped me immensely thank you. But can you please post some videos about narcissistic parent child relationships. As that's what I and I'm sure many others are trying to recover from. Thanks again
Thank you
Moi , j'aime bien vos analogies de pêche , Mademoiselle Leblanc !
j'sui en taco, seignuer
I like the, “step back, breathe & broaden your field of vision,” bit.
That means enter the, “here and now” which is the path to oneness with the universe.
Dealing with narcos is heinous but if you use it as a catalyst to develop the will to live in harmony with the world 🌎 you can, like the lotus blossom, find beauty in the bog of eternal stench.
This is sad true 😢.
Narcissistic bait ; now it’s described I recognize it (didn’t fall for it 😅)
It's like you were taking notes on my ex flatmate. Fortunately no contact now.
Very helpful information. How do you cope with a very demanding narcissistic daughter?
Reminds me of Billy Joel's song "Stiletto".
When I sense what's going on, I simply reply with "Know what you're doing and I'm not taking your bait". This usually ends it pretty quickly and I don't hear from them again for a while. It's actually pretty funny when I do this to one person in particular.
After you discard one It’s crazy how they bait you with trigger lines or words like ‘son’ just to get you to argue back or react. Smh. Demonic spirits. Take away the energy grid ! No contact or grey rock ! It’s the only revenge we can give them and the only peace your gonna get
I spent Thanksgiving with a narcissistic family member, who was passive-aggressive, cold, gave me the silent treatment, and found offense in everything that was said/spoken that evening. I already knew she was going to be this way because I had refused a suggestion of hers prior, at a prior event. She was also behaving this way because my husband had just received a job promotion, whereas she spent 15 years at one company and didn't get the job promotion she'd been boasting would be hers. As much as I was raging inside, I didn't take her bait. And afterwards, I said "Bye Falicia" to future events that include her.
Breadcrumming, smoke screening and baiting I never tell anyone weaknesses until they r vetted it drives them nuts not knowing where the chink in the armour is
hold up... where them bread crumbs, muh fuckah? I got a salad to eat..
@@boblikeschickennuggets661 hhhhhhha
That's something I've always been unaware of, been knowing only of my own weaknesses, I guess because these narc ***** have me so dragged down I can't see the wood for the trees until they take their cruelty too far & it wipes my eyes, that wakes me up to their games. Since finding resources like Lise's videos, I can spot a narc at 10 paces now, it's easier to protect myself, so, thank you Lise!
@@cosmicstargazer10 I'm sorry. I don't see the message you are responding to. so i don't understand
@@zandig666 because of the youtube messaging system, I don't know what message you're responding too. I need you to fill me in if theres to be an actual association or connection. thumbs up
@Lise Leblanc what's an emotion? Thanks
I really love all your videos Lise. However, I'm deeply concerned about my own psychology too. What if I'm a narcissist but I'm not aware? What if I hurt people unconsciously? I wish there is a self-assessment guide to know if I'm a narcissist.
Well It is healthy to self reflect, however I think you would not be that much concerned about hurting others if you were one! ;)
Can you provide a video on narcissism in ecclesiastical/spiritual leadership? I suffered from this for years and many communities are still victimised and mislead because of the entitlement of the narcissistic leader
super normal ! they are always the "son of god " or has some magical key to the universe
0:47 I like them Miss Leblanc. :)
They don't always want a response and this can spark them off - if they're prodding at me i just leave, or if its a partner just listen and replay what they're saying in pure logical form but always grant them validation and respect even in a row, otherwise we're just as bad in effect. Make a game of it but don't condescend - show them step by step, over and over and over again. If they remember the outcome the next day, they will never forget it.
You got time on your hands to be playing games with any narc.
@@r2023rr you think everyone has a choice?
There are many tricks in their bag. Disdroid is right to observe and use ways to disarm them, validation and respect is what they seek. It is very difficult but avoiding blow ups is a good outcome. This is a very difficult situation. The person making this video is speaking to all who are victims of this and this is a very important topic.
@@disdroid Everyone should have a choice! My father is a narc... He will always be one, but I chose not to be around him...
My ex was a narc. I recognized and left in great pain.
I have CPTSD. I have to recover from people pleasing for example...
So I started to fend off people. I started to say no. And I started to say I am bussy... I'm building up boundries. I struggle with this at the age of 38... CPTSD made me voulnereable to abuse!
@@laszloiso777 actually I chose to be in a relationship with a bpd person who went on to make a full recovery - but before this I was told by therapists that in this case they would advise not to use no contact unless I completely left my home town, because of the increased risk of violence. I had agreed to all the risks at the outset, because i also discussed with the therapists the signs that a remedy might be found, which we did find eventually.
Looking beautiful by the way, just had to say it.
Lise, is there some way you could diagnose my wife? She says I'm the narcissist but she seems to check every box. Like I'm so game to pay for a consultation and diagnosis.
Here is a really tough one.
He triesvto be finny and if I don't laugh at it, then he gets a supply of feeling superior and a victim because I'm being negative for not laughing.
I try to respond to it as if he's not trying to be funny. And then he says in a very superior condensing way "That was a joke".
What should I do?
You have to realise that you cannot win with these people. Even if they 'lose' they will still say they have won anyway. You have to see how pathetic and pitiful they really are as life is just a game of survival for them and they never experience love, trust, faith or any deep human emotions, they can only do surface and survival and that is it. Be grateful that you are not like them and let them 'win' their silly little game for babies and get on with your life. Winning over narcissists is basically ignoring them and getting on with your life, they are not worth it.
Do you give personal 1-on-1 advice services?
I agree to my relationship with my fiance narcissistic demon was heads on I'm the type of person that doesn't that take lightly to disrespect or abuse so every time she would hit me with one of these bait traps love bombs or whatever else I would confront her and this would really shock her she would stand back and just listen a lot of time she would argue with me trying to defend herself but I called her out this created a lot of dissension and disrespect for her and what was going on with our relationship again why call toxic relationships it eventually dissolve even though when it was good it was amazing when it was bad it was horrible
Do not back down from demons do not back down do not walk away unless it gets ridiculously violence are out of hand then you should just get in your car and split and when she's gone or he's gone pack your s*** and get out or pack her s*** and get her out change the locks on the doors throw the clothes in the driveway and leave there's nothing she or he can do
To the contrary I find these demons to be pretty stupid they think they're smarter than we are but I've outsmarted mine on several occasions to her amazement I must say that was very gratifying LOL
Amen
Is there such a thing as someone having narcissist behaviors but they are not necessarily a narcissist in the traditional sense, in that they have empathy and a lot of emotion but they do things like the baiting, blaming, arguing, etc?
These videos talk about narcissists where it is a known fact, but how can someone tell an actual narcissist from someone who might just have some issues or narcissistic-like styles? Don't some people falsely accuse others of being narcissistic, creating a feedback loop, i.e. making someone take on avoidant attachment tactics?
There is healthy narcissism and unhealthy when a person has an actual disorder. We all possess a healthy dose of narcissism for our self-esteem, I think that should be clear to all listeners who maybe lack self-esteem and self-worth and don't have their personal boundaries aligned. People with no boundaries will be taken advantage of by those who may or may not be on the spectrum, that happens because we live in an individualistic society where everyone is only concerned with themselves. However, you can protect yourself by establishing healthy boundaries and not allowing others to use you, no matter who they are. Learn to say no and stop being a people pleaser.
Lise, do you know of any research that has been done of beating (inflicting physical pain and injury upon) the narcissist ?
I've not seen any & I would be interested too. I had to bang my head off a tree, twice, because the first one wasn't enough, to stop myself punching my "father" in the throat. He had been baiting me all day with nasty comments, about me, other family members & complete strangers all day, making racist comments, insulting & infantilising me personally. I'm not a violent person, I just wanted him to shut up. I knew if I punched him in the mouth he would just keep verbally abusing me. When he still wouldn't stop attacking me with his nasty mouth, I pulled the hair out from the sides of my head in temper & frustration - he laughed in my face. That's the last time I laid eyes on him nearly a year ago. I know now, that if I had have hurt him back physically for his mental & emotional torture, if he survived it, he would have taken great pleasure in smearing me to literally everybody & assassinating my usually calm & peaceful character as vicious. If he had died, his narc 2nd wife would have been delighted to do the same. It's too easy to say & very difficult to practice, but reacting to them is just what they want; don't give them any more of your heart, mind & soul, they will bleed it dry then laugh in your face. One:LOVE.
Its just about feeling validated, like giving blood to a vampire
Did you ever do narcissistic siblings like a sister video ?Because i have one right now she is 23 acting like a child not taking any accountability and blaming others and instigating abusing me mentally and physically and i just dont know how to defend myself all i do is ignore her but she lives with my mom and treats her so horrible and never pays rent
gas lighting and baiting
what about ass lighting and vaping?
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Can you do a video on covert naricissitic females who try to lure you from your spouse please?
Yes I will create this video asap and post it in July. Thanks for your request!
@LiseLeblanc my covert husband tried to bring up my past and I didn't react he said there's no emotions...I said because I don't need it!
Do they give the impression that they actually forget their behaviors, or is that just a ploy of denial. Lies of course.
I always knew that fishermen were narcisistic.
no, you got it wrong... all fishermen are narcissists..
lol... I mean, all narcissists are fisherman... and I'm a retard, lol
So Jesus was a narcissist???
@@DPage1991 The Disciples, some of them, were fishermen, Jesus was a carpenter, like His pop Joseph. I don't believe for a solitary moment my Lord & Saviour was a narcissist!
@@boblikeschickennuggets661 my narc ex loves fishing, go figure!
just listening to her speak about one is draining.
One of the last things my co-vert Narasissist EX-girlfriend said ; when she disrespected my friends, " What - you don't want to talk to me because you know I'm smarter than you "" What " W T F !?
Swim away quickly!
"dont get angry " hahahah
I'm glad you gave the heads up on the fishing analogy. I don't like it. I like your advise though
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Yeah "trust me", one moment you think this can't be real!..😅
Your riding chemicals in your brain 🧠 that you "Never", knew you could, possess (it was an"amazing") very short, trip!..)😢
Next moment, you feel like you had a "narcoleptic", attack 🤔👀 wtf just happened?
Your on your knees, crying, wondering, how, did you hurt him.
😧?? When all you, wanted to do was protect, him and let him know that he, is loved! ❤️
But then you start to think "how does he have "So much, "Hatred" in that beautiful heart? 💔 Of his?.
That he is, tongue-lashing your heart with?💔 And "Why"??🧐
"Causing you"So much, pain you feel like you would be better off??
But then you Stop, and think, he's must be, cracking up, or something and 😱 you know it's something "he has to work on!!...🤔 🎭 God willing 🙏 May he find peace, love and contentment, in his journey home!!..🕊️🏞️🗺️ God bless you!..
Narcs do have love receptors but degraded to weakness receptors !
Like a jaguar receptors for a limping monkey yum 😛
Your facial expression in your thumbnails is exactly the same facial expression my Ex-narc would make.
I think everybody should fall for the trap with the mindset of short term. Narcissist are useful, especially when you’re going through a time in your life where he really don’t wanna partner you know what they are you can see the signs everything happens fast in the beginning, the sex is great in the beginning Take a vantage of it
The problem with that is you're wasting time, energy, and passion you should be using elsewhere in the right places.
Narc ex was the most unimaginative & selfish "lover" I ever had the misfortune to be in the orbit of. He was all about himself & his own pleasure. Anything I wanted was set in the margin. So I don't agree it's great in the beginning, it was most awful towards the end & the triangulated bint (I only know about her, had been going on from a year after I was in the 7-year relationship with him until past the end, there could be others), she has agreed to marry & is SO welcome to him. He knows the difference between sex & love-making, but when you are incapable of love, it can only be called sex. He will only ever be a selfish narc sex-pest. I had to submit whenever he demanded, yet, if I attempted to initiate, I was being clingy.
I had a fm narc college tear a strip off me, I came back to reason with her and she said "you sure get worked up, is that all you do is worry what I say"? 😆😆
She was a tragic waste of your time, energy & care, you didn't deserve that. I hope you are well-rid of her & living your best life with decent human beings! One:LOVE.
I reacted to the baiting. Dont do it. Bullies bait you because they know thst once you react they win and can play the victim.
They gaslight and manipulate you. They know everyone is looking st you and judging you for your reaction so they can do more. They use whst you tell them to hurt you in the future
Hi Lisa,
I have a hypothetical question. The scenario is: a person watching NPD videos determines their partner NPD, BPD, etc. Once reviewed they build an arsenal survive, manage, or control the partner. When in reality the partner is not any of the attached disorders. The subject individual has misdiagnosed their partner and treating them under the falsehood. Furthermore the individual is not suffering from any of the disorders themselves. Do you have an answer for the scenario? Thank you for any input.
I am a narcissist and i believe you're not a good therapist. You seem extremely biased against those kind of people so why be a therapist if you don't want to help them? What are you doing this for?