Thor holding Tony by the throat and telling him straight up if he or anyone from the government or shield try anything he will quite literally bring biblical end days on them is such a cool moment
Dude I read that when I was a kid and just loved it. Tony: Don't make me have the government remove you from the property. Thor: I will flood you your fucking capitol and shoot down your planes if you try to escape. Tony: .....
It automatically put Thor in the wrong for me, and made him seem like a hypocrite. At first he was upset at New Orleans and the flood, the pain and suffering it caused. Only to turn around and threaten the entire planet and all of humanity with the same fate.
As for your masters. Since power is all they understand tell them that Thor says this “ any mortal comes uninvited to asgard of behalf of those who suppose themselves to be powers … within the hour they will know what TRUE POWER IS “
Well, he did rip the face plate off like it was tin foil - and that's not the first time he did that. When Rhodey was playing Iron Man when Stark was at the bottom of a booze bottle, Rhodey collapsed and they rushed over to save Tony... Thor casually ripped off the helmet's face plate like it was made of wrapping paper - and the reveal that it was no longer Tony wearing the suit was made.
Let’s not forget, before this beat down he laid to Tony he asked Cap’s ghost if he wanted revenge. Meaning if he wanted him to kill Tony and the others who was responsible. He respected Cap, more so than Tony, and if cap’s ghost had said yes he would have done it without question. People forget Thor was a warrior before he was a hero, killing for a just cause is what he did.
No, him meeting Cap's ghost was AFTER, since Iron Man's beatdown was only 3 issues in In which he simply caused an EMP reaction to all Earth's satellites to stop people from capitalizing in Cap's name, as a minute of silence Edit: Cap's ghost doesnt make sense to me since he was never really dead, more like stuck jumping through time
@@retardidris1070 I highly doubt batman would be afraid as Tony was here, Bruce has never really been afraid to die especially by the hands of superman. Plus Bruce doesn't flaunt his own power around like Tony does, they're like night and day (heh see what I did there).
@@bgill6623 batman counts on superman's mental restraint when facing him, what i mean is, superman needs to temporarily suspend it to show batman there is a limit to how much he can take. Thor was friends with Ironman yet he created a countermeasure for Thor (understandable), Batman is Superman's friend, sometimes friends fight and lessons have to be learned. am not hating its just a lesson or 2 might help the capped crusader tread carefully
@@retardidris1070 if its understandable why iron man creates countermeasures against thor then it would be equally understandable why batman needs to keep supes in check
@@alexguyson129 Loki mind controlled Professor!Hulk in the A-2 Avengers/Mayday Parker Spider-Girl future. The point was to provoke Thor into killing an innocent man, which Hulk -being released from Loki's power in the instant before being incinerated- would be. Mayday and the A-2 managed to make Thor miss, but even Banner said that he wouldn't have survived otherwise.
During the invasion of the God of Fear, Thor fought against the Hulk and the Thing, which had been empowered by hammers that boosted their powers. He opened a hole at the chest of Ben Grimm and sent the Hulk flying all the way across the Atlantic from New York city to Romenia, where the Hulk started fighting Dracula.
The civilian went through a rough patch along with the rest of the folks around. They were understandably upset, Tony was an ass pretending to be civil.
Tony did not understand that even though Thor was dead in the afterlife he watched the world of man. He saw friends and allies hunted down and imprisoned , his trust violated by Tony by creating his own version of him and the death of a mortal that Thor has the highest respect and admiration for in Captain America. Tony hadn't realized that the few bouts he had with Thor that Thor was merciful but without such mercy he has about as much chance as a nail beating a hammer. Tony's lucky that Thor didn't kill him.
This. Now this is what Thor is. And Tony just had to rile him up in the worst way possible. That day, Tony was reminded that Thor is a god and you do NOT mess with one. . . . Dang it, this is the Thor that I love.
A riposte you could see coming a mile away and it only stings worse because of it. The big guy can give a rousing speech or cut you down with a single word.
Tony threatened to have the government move Asgard by force if necessary... So Thor threatened to flood the capital and shoot down any escaping planes. 😳😳
Thor was rather scary here. Of course his anger was justified. His promise of showing Tony's superiors the true definition of power was very well done.
Yeah, I remember reading this. It was satisfying. I got the distinct impression that at least a few of Marvel's staff on hand at the time hated Civil War as much as a chunk of the readership did.
Civil War was a crowning achievement for Marvel, but also had lasting repercussions to this day, and not all of them good. Tony basically had to be retconned for anyone to even engage him as a friend again, Spider-Man is STILL screwed up to this point I think because of One More Day. A lot of Civil War was basically swept under the rug, though nowhere near as bad as Civil War 2, where some of that was forgiven in one panel's worth of dialogue.
“Give your orders and ultimatums to those who choose to obey, or too cowardly to fight, not me” I lost my shit when Thor said that because that is unyielding, unflinching, uncompromising badassery in your face! And you can’t check it so you’re forced to respect it!
Tony wasn't written that way because he's the Marvel equivalent of DC'S Batman. He's supposed to represent intelligence, which in the comic world is the ultimate power. He wasn't as strongly written as Bats though....
@@Repented008 He just massive assh*le. Tony tries to be a hero, but he becomes more of a tyrant along the way, and the reason for that is just some stupid lady who blames her son's death on him. Dude, so a lady that is not in her right mind apparently makes you decide to betray your friend and ruin everything you have built up over the year? He does improve by Civil War II, but at this point, I don't know if that is due to retcon or what, I mean there is this whole secret war thing going on.
@@antoniusevan3722 ik its just a comic but from a realistic emotional standpoint if you were tony and all u have been doing is trying to save and keep people alive but find out that your just causing more death and destruction from collateral
Back in the old days, when Marvel knew how to write something. This is actually one of the best comics Thor has had in a long time. Most of that run was.
It’s clear that after Civil War Tony was used to being on top and giving the orders. The power went to his head and he got cocky enough to think he could boss Thor around. Thor humbled him. Put Tony in his place, which was well deserved.
@@kanyerahming thor is not more powerful than the tier of "planet buster". thor is not powerful enough to be put into the tier of "planet buster". he has displayed no feats to prove you true.
Idk what Tony thought he could do to reason with Thor, you can’t make a clone of a god, have that clone kill Goliath, and then pin that on the original Thor.
@@janm3781 You're giving Tony way too much credit. This is the guy who catapulted the Hulk into space. Then had the nerve to actually be surprised that both Bruce Banner & the Hulk were actually angry about Tony's betrayal when Banner came back to Earth.
@@warcraftlegends1329Tony has always been a massive Dick they literally ruined Spider-Man in the MCU by making tony his mentor although Tom Holland ruined Spider-Man peter Parker as a whole but meh.... Disney
People often forget that most of the time thor is half trying in a very real sense hes playing with the kids, hes a god and his true wrath is a literal biblical judgement.
Tony had this coming for a long time. He has always had a supreme arrogance to him, regardless of if hes an international weapons dealer or a super hero, he always has that arrogance, that hubris to him, that only his way is better. Tony is a futurist, believing in advancing everything forward with technology is the best way forward, but his hubris prevents him from living in the here and now. Characters like him and Reed Richard's are so supremely intelligent, but that comes with a price of a more lack of empathy. When they are so set in their ideals, they look at emotional bonds and caring for others as a secondary aspect, something that's very important in making the right decisions
the fact writers tend to focus on his take on the characters these days as appose to say the pre Civil War comics when Tony was one of the more moral Avengers or the Marvel Knights FF where Reed came across as so human it was breath of fresh air I didn't know I needed
Bro he is beyond livid lol during the first Civil War, tony and reed richards and others helped create a clone of Thor. The clone killed an og avenger Goliath. It was pinned on Thor, all while the real Thor was dead at this time smh. This made me dislike tony alot for a bit lol
I can’t lie - there are times when watching Iron Man get humbled is one of the greatest feelings, and this comic is one of the reasons Thor is and very likely always will be a top 5 comic book character for me.
I think there's something beautiful in how humble Thor is to the regular Joe right before he demonstrates his superiority to Tony. He doesn't condescend, or defend himself or in any way demean the man. He takes everything he says seriously, and you can see the empathy in his eyes for the pain of the man's existence. Sure, I loved watching Thor beat the tar out of Iron Man as much as the next guy, but I'm glad you included the proceeding scene, because it gives it so much more weight. Thor doesn't respect Iron Man despite his incredible power... for a mortal at least, because of his delusions of godhead and superiority and godhood, but he respects an ordinary man because DESPITE his complete lack of power and knowledge of that fact, he will clearly even stand up to a God of Thunder to protect what's important to him. It shows that while Thor is a God and deserves to be called such, he never lost sight of the plight of mortality, or respect for those who struggle to fight it well.
i love how thor uses 1% more of his actual power than normal (he usually just messes around and its a bit of a game for him) just to scare the pants of stark. he knew starks suit can take a beating and he made it hurt.
Steve was always the one that stopped Thor from ruining Tony out of respect. Tony getting Steve killed, well there’s no one to calm Thor and that’s what happens.
Tony won the Civil War, Became director of shield, And was able to make his own Government sanctioned Avengers teams, But not without losing some things. The respect, trust, and deep friendships that he made with other heroes that weren't on his side.
@@rodimusriderv2368 Yeah but on the bright side it gave Tony the opportunity to start regaining the trust of his hero friends, Not to mention Steve came back which was the main reason people held the grudge for so long. Despite not being the one that pulled the trigger they held him responsible for Captain America's death.
One reason I love this is the way Thor's dialog is written. With a single exception, he doesn't raise his voice. This isn't a rage moment, even his attacks on Iron Man seem cold and economical. It is focused and tranquil fury. I chose to believe that Thor spoke barely above a whisper and with no emotion.
Tony created an Android that impersonated Thor and fooled many of the heroes into thinking it was actually him. It ended up killing another Superhero in cold blood and wounding others. That's why Thor was so angry at Tony when he got back to Earth.
I mean I get iron man has done some cool things in his suit but he acts like he walks around with odin's armor, like he's some unstoppable force bro you stay getting stomped
Everytime he makes a new armor He stays invincible for a while And then someome comes and wrecks his shit to the next dimentiom So he makes a new armor And the cycle repeats
When I was reading comics in the '60s Thor defeated the living planet Ego and then saved Ego by driving Galactus away. This was a little more like that cosmic level Thor.
I remember reading this in the aftermath of Civil War. I had no idea if the context of him 'being dead' was Canon calling out the Ragnarok Storyline or something else (Thor has a track record of courting death as often as Deadpool sometimes) but *man* it was refreshing to have Iron Man finally get his comeuppance. His character was assassinated worse than Cap's in the Civil War event, and this story rightfully called them out on how far he crossed a line.
MCU Ironman was a cashcow so Disney wouldn't do that even if their power levels dictates so. Hell, MCU IM fanboys still think MCU IM can go toe to toe with MCU Thanos because he made him "bleed" when it was just a minor scratch and it wasn't bleeding.
@@johnbianchi9401 not all of them, the first avengers movie and infinity war were fuckin' awesome, Ultron was meh and the rest of them were fun to watch one time. It's completely subjective and I'm not sure what the avengers has to do with him saying they should bring back the warrior in Thor.
@@noranradmusic Umm, yeah he was. Hacking into S.H.I.E.L.D. which gave Loki all he needed to escape, creating Ultron because of paranoia, throwing his friends under the bus because of PR, and oh yes, trying to kill one of his friends and his friend out of revenge.
@@jordanschruder2260 No, it wasn't. For one thing, Hydra was who made Bucky kill his parents, and nothing justifies ruining Earth's main line of defense against the unknown for revenge. To quote Rocket: "Everybody's got dead people! It's no excuse to get everyone else dead along the way!"
@@thegeneral4943 few little details left out. Like cap knowing it was Bucky all along who did the assassination and not letting tony know. This coupled with the line in age of ultron: sometimes my teammates don’t tell me things make Steve the biggest hypocrite out of everyone.
I remember this Thor fondly it was a peak of respect for the character. He wasnt sitting in Beta Ray Bills shadow as a worse version of Thor than Bill. They seemed equals as Odin intended. And ten minutes later he was back to getting his ass kicked by everyone. Thor has had a lengthy run of good days since Ragnarok before Civil War. Thor in the early 2000s had a few years of just fantastic stories and strong portrayals. Ah the good old days.
Thor also in this run was showing his powers inherited as the Son Of Gaea. This guy can legit create earthquakes and storms that could decimate the whole planet. Tony and his "Government threats" 😂
Me as Thor at about the 7:00 while Tony is realizing that he was about a hair's breath from dying: So...now that you're no longer a bully, in full control, NOW you want to offer an alternative? You rolled up all 'With the government, for the government...' when you could have LED with 'compromise.' This showed what a jerk Tony is lately.
And recently Tony mistook wielding Thor's hammer for wielding his power and was reminded through calm rage why Mjolnir or not Thor is still a God... and left thinking that hitting Thor with his own weapon mattered. Ha !!
It did matter; it was funny and he got it memed, which was his goal. That one was more about getting a whack and tactfully surrendering in than winning a fight, and he accomplished both.
Cloning Thor was probably the biggest mistake done by Tony and Reed or anyway top 3 mistakes. Not only for their God complex of inferiority they cloned Thor just to see if it would work, they created an abomination that killed fellow heroes and couldn't be controlled. Iron Man is the typical example of rich people who in real life try to get condoned for the wrong shit they do by making amends with charity and such. This reality check from Thor was long overdue. Plus in the end, he still gave Tony a chance to make amends by wanting to hear his words.
The cool part is it shows how Thor want to make amends to since if he was there when the hurricane hit he could have stopped it but he couldn’t bc he died
Not the biggest mistake but close. Biggest was shooting Hulk into space and instead of going to peaceful world, wound up in gladiator world where he was able to lead a rebellion and raise an army. One that would go on a quest for vengeance after the ship they designed went nuclear from sabotage killing Hulk's pregnant wife and the families of those warriors. Even more frightening was the persona of the Hulk they would face, not some dumb brute or wishy washy nerdy professor but the utterly ruthless, remorseless Conqueror Hulk.
Tony felt all big and bad while Thor was away and thought he could walk up on the god of thunder and make threats. He forgot what a fucking power house Thor actually is. Thor put Tony in his place. One of my favorite moments in Marvel.
Thor here is like superman and iron man is like batman in this situation, if he wanted to, thor could kill tony almost instantly and with no effort at all just like superman can kill batman easily if he wanted, only difference is that thor is a literal god while Superman is an alien with godlike powers and strength
Second difference. Batman always has a plan to fight superman. Be it kryptonite, red solar energy, magic, or kryptonian technology. Meanwhile Iron man has to make a type of "enemy" buster and even then they can fail
@@smasher3261 Batman's plans only matter as long as Superman doesn't get serious about trying to kill him. If that ever happened, there are so many ways Superman could instakill Batman that I can't even count them, and then just go on about his day like nothing significant happened.
@@JakkFrost1 Yeah I never really understood the Batman vs Superman argument. Not even a fan of DC but there’s no way Batman gets within an inch of Superman if he just decides “okay you’re dead now”. The comics give way too much plot armor imo.
I have a theory on this “version” of Thor. In the “DISASSEMBLE” story line for Thor; He reset the Ragnarok cycle that was put in place by “those that live in shadow” or the “gods” of the gods. Since each cycle made the Asgardians and the Aesar weaker with each revolution the Thor we grew up with was the weakest of Thors. Now since the cycle has been removed everyone in the Asgardian mythos returned to their original power scale. Which would dwarf any previous iterations of any of those characters. So THIS Thor is not only more powerful but also has the OdinForce on top of his world busting power. Is to equate him to any of the higher end celestial power houses. In truth Thor showed an enormous amount of restraint.
After civil war most writers were really pissed off with what Iron Man had become, so they protested the editorial mandates by just wailing on him whenever they got the chance.
Tony Stark is portrayed quite differently in the movies by RDJ than he was in the comics. Many don't realize that. Now they've changed him a bit, but he was very arrogant, a complete a-hole and almost bordering on villainous sometimes. He'd always showcase his "power" by using the ones who were truly powerful, Sentry, Thor, Hulk, etc. Remember when he ordered Sentry to just rip off Doctor Doom's mask? And Sentry just went through the shields of Dr. Doom and man-handled him? Tony then asked Doom "Do you acknowledge my authority now?". No, he acknowledged Sentry's authority, you egomaniac! Not many can break through Doom's shields BTW. That's why Iron Man was never the face of Marvel. Hulk, Spider-Man, Thor were, until RDJ showed up. This little segment proves that Stark will never understand true power and yet he has always toyed with it, without having it. Same goes for Fury and the whole SHIELD too. BTW, doesn't Siege happen after this? Or does it happen before?
After, I think. Norman Osborn isn’t in charge of Shield yet, and he was the one who tried to do what Tony threatened to do here; invade New Asgard, along with his dark Avengers.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 I see. Funnily enough Osborne was the same as Stark. Using the likes of Sentry, manipulating him. We all know how that ended, until Bob just decided to get himself killed and stay dead.
what an epic smackdown. it wasn't even a fight but Iron Man didn't know that ... yet. he found out the hard way. the look on his face .. er mask after he hits Thor with full replusor rays and it had no effect at all is .. PRICELESS!!!
I understand if tony felt guilty. He however was wrong on everything he did to cap and his army, thor, and spidey. He became a cocky power hungry tyrant. Thankfully Thor came to sort him out and open his eyes.
My all-time favorite Thor comic book moment. EVER ! And, started reading the comic in the 60s 😊. Marvel consistently finds a way to make this character less than what he is. The issue this fight is from, is full of instances where Thor is truly the God of Thunder. As I read it, I said, " About damned time."
Always loved that scene, Rich Rider calling Tony's BS for what it was. Plus Nova had the worldmind at that point and would have beat the brakes off Stark, lol.
I don't know why people forget that Thor is the God of Thunder. He doesn't even need to be on Earth to destroy it. All it takes is a very bad thunderstorm for few weeks and humanity will go back to stone age.
I love this Thor, he didn't show arrogance to that guy earlier cuz he understood how they felt. But to stark it's a whole different story. Simply saying that just know your place in front of your big brother. All this time he was holding back.
i love the threat to the US about flooding them or using thunder an lightning to take out anything airborne. basically Thor saying im sick of your shit, heres what happens when you "annoy" a god
Civil War started out as an interesting philosophical exploration of two reasonable but contrasting positions, but Marvel's stable of writers almost immediately chucked all nuance and character out the window to make Tony and Reed cartoonishly evil
I did not read the entire comic run. Did Thor pay reed a visit? He was also involved in the creation of the clone not just tony so I’m assuming thor provides equal ass whoppings to those involved in degrading his image
If Tony instead said "That's tough, for everything that you've done for them, they spit on your efforts and cry foul." "But, it's not their fault. After all, for all of our power, we can't console their trama." "It pains me to say this, but this past few months has been hard for everyone, someone died, the people in their grief used the power of Uncle Sam to pigeonhole us heroes into a governmental hellhole, and... Someone we both know isn't with us anymore." "And this hurts worse, but... It's my duty. But I promise, after this is done-" Thor: WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF DUTY!!!!!!! *Thor's godly hissy fit over clone Thor ensues. Tony: Yes... I know... ugh. That I betrayed your trust, but I was trying to stop a war of immeasurable magnitude... so that whatevers left of us could survive. Thor: A war for mortals is no place for a God!!!!!!! Tony: And that's exactly why we needed someONE who was strong enough to take them. *After the beatdown Tony: But you'll start a world war!!!! Thor: That is of no concern of mine, mortal!!! Tony: But the billions of innocents Thor: SILENCE!!!!!!!! *Lightning strikes and thunder roars Tony: I've seen you in your heyday. You've had plenty of opportunities to either destroy the earth or let someone or someTHING else kill us or enslave us. *Thor angrily raises his legendary mythological weapon, charged with deadly intent Tony: If the Thor who helped us despite our flaws is within you right now... *Tony closes his eyes. Possibly for the final time Tony: Then I hope he comes back. *Thor lowers mjolnir to the chest plate and charges it to full power, wasting his attack *Thor strolls away from his punished former brother in arms Thor: Wise words mortal, though I thought you had lost them long ago *Tony gets back up, coughing and wheezing Tony: At... At least take a page from the old days and lift it in the air. *Thor begrudgingly obeys this request by launching Asgard several miles into the air and levitating it in Earth's skyline, making Asgard (for a time at least) the crown jewel of America Thor: I suggest you follow in the actions of an OLD friend of mine. And FLEE. Thor: And be forewarned mortal, if I find out you did something as vexing as this again!!!!! I will not be as courteous as I am right now. *Tony nods in agreement and flies off *Thor jolted to see if his former adversary was going to counterattack *Nothing is there and Thor smirks Thor: Well done mortal. *Thor flies up to his mythological wonder in the sky END
it's funny how Tony despite his genius doesn't know that they are beings way for powerful than him. Tony is just a human who could die instantly unlike other godly beings.
Tony needs to understand that his armor can't solve all his problems. This is a man that pretty much said f*ck friendships, if you're not with us, you're against us, he broke something Thor valued more then anything *family* that sense of belonging and he was violated.
Tony forgot that ONLY the armor that Odin gifted, then took back is the one armor that could go toe-to-toe with Thor. Any that Tony could make with the resources he has all FAIL against an angry GOD OF THUNDER and STORMS.
Knowing all the lives that were lost in Katrina along with the Superhero Civil war and no one doing anything Thor was rageful with every right with the clone of him being an insult on point
I didn't like how they made civil war, both the comics and the MCU missed out on many things. It could have been an amazing discussion on security vs freedom. They hit upon the subject a few times in the comic run, but it always got swept aside in favour of personal things to do with the characters. It's an important debate to have and in the context of the Marvel universe, it could have been done very well.
This got me so hyped. I lost the love a thrill of reading comics as a kid and your channel with videos like this brought back memories of reading comics with my late father. Keep up the great work.
The Ironman suit is one of the most versatile pieces of technology in the Marvel universe. Yet Tony is forced to climb a chain link fence after angering Thor.
When i talk to my friends about how thor was extremely depowered for the mcu i always show them this. They have a better understandings of what power is between the two.
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I would love to know what music started playing at around the 3:50 mark if anyone knows
That's called "Conquer" by Shane Ivers
Thanks man, love your work!
@@FernandoComicsOfficial bruh would u like to say what are the songs at knull vs sentry s too? I Will appreciate🤣
@@lorenzocarrari8636 i sure will ! I'll go back to that video
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Thor holding Tony by the throat and telling him straight up if he or anyone from the government or shield try anything he will quite literally bring biblical end days on them is such a cool moment
Dude I read that when I was a kid and just loved it.
Tony: Don't make me have the government remove you from the property.
Thor: I will flood you your fucking capitol and shoot down your planes if you try to escape.
Tony: .....
More ragnarok given the pantheon god involved.
That was some Old Testatment talk he had to put in Tony's ear to help him understand. 😂
It automatically put Thor in the wrong for me, and made him seem like a hypocrite. At first he was upset at New Orleans and the flood, the pain and suffering it caused. Only to turn around and threaten the entire planet and all of humanity with the same fate.
And it's nothing less than what Stark deserved for the betrayal he committed during Civil War.
Can we talk about how badass Thor’s dialogue is? That shit turned me into a Thor fanboy
Good man ! This was my first true exposure to a Thor comic so I agree lol :)
Asgardian prince speech. Nothing like the tongue of mortal men
As for your masters. Since power is all they understand tell them that Thor says this “ any mortal comes uninvited to asgard of behalf of those who suppose themselves to be powers … within the hour they will know what TRUE POWER IS “
Same
Bruh every time Thor speaks in this video it makes me love him even more
I never noticed it before, but Tony's neck is actually bruised where Thor was holding him, meaning Thor was by all means choking him through his suit
Imagine of he squeezed just a tiny bit harder
Well, he did rip the face plate off like it was tin foil - and that's not the first time he did that. When Rhodey was playing Iron Man when Stark was at the bottom of a booze bottle, Rhodey collapsed and they rushed over to save Tony... Thor casually ripped off the helmet's face plate like it was made of wrapping paper - and the reveal that it was no longer Tony wearing the suit was made.
"Choked through your battlesuit...." 🤔
Let’s not forget, before this beat down he laid to Tony he asked Cap’s ghost if he wanted revenge. Meaning if he wanted him to kill Tony and the others who was responsible. He respected Cap, more so than Tony, and if cap’s ghost had said yes he would have done it without question. People forget Thor was a warrior before he was a hero, killing for a just cause is what he did.
Yes he was casually killing stuff before he met the avengers
No, him meeting Cap's ghost was AFTER, since Iron Man's beatdown was only 3 issues in
In which he simply caused an EMP reaction to all Earth's satellites to stop people from capitalizing in Cap's name, as a minute of silence
Edit: Cap's ghost doesnt make sense to me since he was never really dead, more like stuck jumping through time
@ivancerecer5758 maybe thor saw some flicker of Steve through the tinelines?
He wouldn’t have said yes. He was gaging caps cause
Bro people do know bout that side of Thor tho… and I do be had caps ghost said yes to him he’d have killed Tony no hesitation
Thor: "I was dead."
Random guy: "Oh no! Anyway."
Lol 🤣
lol, even though that random guy is actually Heimdall.
@@levesd3722 oh shite
@@levesd3722 he lost his memories ?
@@akchayakumar2071 Everyone but Thor did.
"You been working out?"
"No, the only difference is I'm not holding back anymore."
Tony was suddenly glad he could pee in his armour.
Yeah, batman also needs that lesson from superman.
@@retardidris1070 I highly doubt batman would be afraid as Tony was here, Bruce has never really been afraid to die especially by the hands of superman. Plus Bruce doesn't flaunt his own power around like Tony does, they're like night and day (heh see what I did there).
@@bgill6623 batman counts on superman's mental restraint when facing him, what i mean is, superman needs to temporarily suspend it to show batman there is a limit to how much he can take. Thor was friends with Ironman yet he created a countermeasure for Thor (understandable), Batman is Superman's friend, sometimes friends fight and lessons have to be learned. am not hating its just a lesson or 2 might help the capped crusader tread carefully
@@retardidris1070 batman is just lucky that sups wasn't raise as warrior unlike Thor was. that's why Thor's patients is thinner than sups
@@retardidris1070 if its understandable why iron man creates countermeasures against thor then it would be equally understandable why batman needs to keep supes in check
"There is only one difference. In this time and this place, I am no longer holding back"
A full power Thor would be scary af
It's canon that a full strength attack from Thor could kill Hulk in one hit.
And that was before he became King of Asgard.
@@TheLastGarou what world breaker?
@@b2wshadow012 his statement is wrong but he said the hulk and all father thor beats hulk world breaker 👍just too much power
@@alexguyson129 Loki mind controlled Professor!Hulk in the A-2 Avengers/Mayday Parker Spider-Girl future. The point was to provoke Thor into killing an innocent man, which Hulk -being released from Loki's power in the instant before being incinerated- would be.
Mayday and the A-2 managed to make Thor miss, but even Banner said that he wouldn't have survived otherwise.
During the invasion of the God of Fear, Thor fought against the Hulk and the Thing, which had been empowered by hammers that boosted their powers.
He opened a hole at the chest of Ben Grimm and sent the Hulk flying all the way across the Atlantic from New York city to Romenia, where the Hulk started fighting Dracula.
Showed more respect for the threats of the drunk angry civilian than for those of Stark. Props to that.
That threat was actually more dangerous than anything iron man showed. That was heimdall in mortal form. That fight would have been way more even.
The civilian went through a rough patch along with the rest of the folks around. They were understandably upset, Tony was an ass pretending to be civil.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I think Tony was actually happy to see Thor again but yeah he did go in with the whole “my way or you get the repulsers.”
@@BCC-cc8lz wait fr that was heimdall???
@@leanbean5550 yes, that was hiemdall in mortal form
Tony did not understand that even though Thor was dead in the afterlife he watched the world of man. He saw friends and allies hunted down and imprisoned , his trust violated by Tony by creating his own version of him and the death of a mortal that Thor has the highest respect and admiration for in Captain America. Tony hadn't realized that the few bouts he had with Thor that Thor was merciful but without such mercy he has about as much chance as a nail beating a hammer. Tony's lucky that Thor didn't kill him.
I wish this thor was in movies, but then again, thor wouldnt be that popular and funny plus handsome
They made Thor look OP in Infinity War but they nerfed him in Endgame since he got out of shape.
@@noobnub7305 funny or handsome maybe not. But badass? Absolutely
@@noobnub7305 mcu characters are all trash
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 you smoking
Tony Stark: “fine we’ll do this old school” *proceeds to get pimp slapped to New York*
"Thor can't be THAT strong right?"
@@FernandoComicsOfficial well he wouldn’t be much of a god if he wasn’t
@@FernandoComicsOfficial very . I believe he can go a step further .somthing to do with his belt of power I believe .
@@FernandoComicsOfficial ik that's sarcasm but thor could punch Tony to the end of the universe with his bare fist he's literally stronger than supes
@@alx7492 - Lol. For a second there, I thought you said he was stronger than Superman.
This.
Now this is what Thor is.
And Tony just had to rile him up in the worst way possible.
That day, Tony was reminded that Thor is a god and you do NOT mess with one.
. . .
Dang it, this is the Thor that I love.
Thor needs to be taken down a peg.
@@davegawel3944 *Tony*
@@davegawel3944 um, why? Tony was in the wrong here. Can you explain what you mean
@@anatoldenevers237 Yeah agreed, I mean just in general a little dose of humility would do him good.
@@davegawel3944 well, Thor is a God. He can’t be expected to answer to mortals
"My armor is fried how am I supposed to get back to base?"
"Walk"
Damn that's some cold shit😂
A riposte you could see coming a mile away and it only stings worse because of it.
The big guy can give a rousing speech or cut you down with a single word.
Spiderman homecoming vibes
Cold? He got off easy. Tony deserved much, MUCH worse for all the crap he did.
Tony needed this humbling.
@@michealnelsonauthor if only it stuck
Tony threatened to have the government move Asgard by force if necessary...
So Thor threatened to flood the capital and shoot down any escaping planes. 😳😳
@Pervy Sage Have people like Sentry, Wonder Man, Red Hulk and Captain Marvel attack, I guess.
@@xTESTimonyx Captain Marvel is nothing compared to Thor.
@@xTESTimonyx with Thor having the Odin force at this time none of them would stand a chance lol
Michael Cooper Red Hulk would
@@TheMightOfGeburah nope, we caught red hulk getting smashed by ant man
Thor was rather scary here. Of course his anger was justified. His promise of showing Tony's superiors the true definition of power was very well done.
He was gonna put out the powers from the bible
Gotta love Thor he gave Tony what he had coming. Civil War almost single handle ruin the character.
Yes, that was well deserved !
@@confusingzark Don't forget he caused the Phoenix Five and tarnish the X Men's legacy.
Yeah, I remember reading this. It was satisfying. I got the distinct impression that at least a few of Marvel's staff on hand at the time hated Civil War as much as a chunk of the readership did.
Civil War was a crowning achievement for Marvel, but also had lasting repercussions to this day, and not all of them good. Tony basically had to be retconned for anyone to even engage him as a friend again, Spider-Man is STILL screwed up to this point I think because of One More Day. A lot of Civil War was basically swept under the rug, though nowhere near as bad as Civil War 2, where some of that was forgiven in one panel's worth of dialogue.
Civil War caused me to quit reading Marvel's non-cosmic comics. Everyone in it acted out of character, it was horrible.
“Give your orders and ultimatums to those who choose to obey, or too cowardly to fight, not me”
I lost my shit when Thor said that because that is unyielding, unflinching, uncompromising badassery in your face! And you can’t check it so you’re forced to respect it!
Tolerate it
@@EWOODJ thanks
At last... a proper THOR! Not a nerfed shadow to get banged up used to show how powerful other characters are.
No sir, this is how Thor was when I started reading him!
The term is Jobber
Yes, we're looking at you, MCU Thor
@@Popdaddy88
They only nerfed him in Endgame because he was way too beefy in IW.
Well even this thor is considerably (ludicrously) nerfed but I get what you mean. Attitude and tone of Thor’s power counts for a lot
This is a Thor I can respect, Tony needs to learn that certain heroes are above him and his laws.
Tony wasn't written that way because he's the Marvel equivalent of DC'S Batman. He's supposed to represent intelligence, which in the comic world is the ultimate power. He wasn't as strongly written as Bats though....
@@Repented008 He just massive assh*le.
Tony tries to be a hero, but he becomes more of a tyrant along the way, and the reason for that is just some stupid lady who blames her son's death on him. Dude, so a lady that is not in her right mind apparently makes you decide to betray your friend and ruin everything you have built up over the year?
He does improve by Civil War II, but at this point, I don't know if that is due to retcon or what, I mean there is this whole secret war thing going on.
@Truth's Knight_0777
I would disagree.
Tony is closer to marvel lex Luthor but with marvel lower moral standards he is represented as a hero.
@@Repented008 "Intelligence is the ultimate power", then gets destroyed by something that actually has power.
@@antoniusevan3722 ik its just a comic but from a realistic emotional standpoint if you were tony and all u have been doing is trying to save and keep people alive but find out that your just causing more death and destruction from collateral
Superman: Won't start the fight, but he'll end it.
Thor: Will start *AND* end the fight.
Back in the old days, when Marvel knew how to write something.
This is actually one of the best comics Thor has had in a long time. Most of that run was.
Yes everything about this run was great! Leading into Dark Reign and then Siege of Asgard, just great writing all around.
Check the current run, Thor just straight up slaughtered Galactus.
@@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 Meh they've turned Galactus into a joke at this stage.
@@katarhall3047 not with the Black Winter, man.
@@arturodejesuscruzcasab9502 Yes they have, period. Galactus used to be such a threat, now anyone and their grandmother spanks him.
It’s clear that after Civil War Tony was used to being on top and giving the orders. The power went to his head and he got cocky enough to think he could boss Thor around.
Thor humbled him. Put Tony in his place, which was well deserved.
I guess Tony forgot that his former teammate is a casual planet buster
Far more than that when he isn’t in “I’m fighting a mortal being” mode. Thor has some scary ass feats
And he had the Odin Force
lmfao thor is not a planet buster
@@ccshumshum8104 he's way above
@@kanyerahming thor is not more powerful than the tier of "planet buster". thor is not powerful enough to be put into the tier of "planet buster". he has displayed no feats to prove you true.
Idk what Tony thought he could do to reason with Thor, you can’t make a clone of a god, have that clone kill Goliath, and then pin that on the original Thor.
Wait, I knew the first two, but did he actually pin Goliath's murder on Thor? 😧
@@janm3781 He told everyone that the clone was the real Thor. So technically yes.
@@warcraftlegends1329 I always just assumed he somehow put things right in the public eye after Goliath's death.
@@janm3781 You're giving Tony way too much credit. This is the guy who catapulted the Hulk into space. Then had the nerve to actually be surprised that both Bruce Banner & the Hulk were actually angry about Tony's betrayal when Banner came back to Earth.
@@warcraftlegends1329Tony has always been a massive Dick they literally ruined Spider-Man in the MCU by making tony his mentor although Tom Holland ruined Spider-Man peter Parker as a whole but meh.... Disney
People often forget that most of the time thor is half trying in a very real sense hes playing with the kids, hes a god and his true wrath is a literal biblical judgement.
Yep!
Not in front of Wanda she can *F**** him anyday
@@nexusbeing6403 ha ha no she can't she's a low tier reality warper, he's a god.
@@nexusbeing6403 LMAO
@@nexusbeing6403 Lmfao
Tony had this coming for a long time. He has always had a supreme arrogance to him, regardless of if hes an international weapons dealer or a super hero, he always has that arrogance, that hubris to him, that only his way is better.
Tony is a futurist, believing in advancing everything forward with technology is the best way forward, but his hubris prevents him from living in the here and now.
Characters like him and Reed Richard's are so supremely intelligent, but that comes with a price of a more lack of empathy. When they are so set in their ideals, they look at emotional bonds and caring for others as a secondary aspect, something that's very important in making the right decisions
the fact writers tend to focus on his take on the characters these days as appose to say the pre Civil War comics when Tony was one of the more moral Avengers or the Marvel Knights FF where Reed came across as so human it was breath of fresh air I didn't know I needed
Tony: "My armor's fried. How am I supposed to get back to base?"
Thor: "....Walk."
Damn, never seen Thor so pissed. Looks like I am going to have to check out the full story.
Bro he is beyond livid lol during the first Civil War, tony and reed richards and others helped create a clone of Thor. The clone killed an og avenger Goliath. It was pinned on Thor, all while the real Thor was dead at this time smh. This made me dislike tony alot for a bit lol
Please do man ! Its worth it !
@@bumbasi89 yeah, if Thor had killed Tony right there it would have been understandable. Btw, did Thor ever confront Reed about this
@@anatoldenevers237 nah, idk if they ever made amends personally, they are more like associates than friends
When he goes up against up against his brother balder in the destroyer armor it’s awesome. This was a really good story arc.
I can’t lie - there are times when watching Iron Man get humbled is one of the greatest feelings, and this comic is one of the reasons Thor is and very likely always will be a top 5 comic book character for me.
I think there's something beautiful in how humble Thor is to the regular Joe right before he demonstrates his superiority to Tony.
He doesn't condescend, or defend himself or in any way demean the man. He takes everything he says seriously, and you can see the empathy in his eyes for the pain of the man's existence.
Sure, I loved watching Thor beat the tar out of Iron Man as much as the next guy, but I'm glad you included the proceeding scene, because it gives it so much more weight.
Thor doesn't respect Iron Man despite his incredible power... for a mortal at least, because of his delusions of godhead and superiority and godhood, but he respects an ordinary man because DESPITE his complete lack of power and knowledge of that fact, he will clearly even stand up to a God of Thunder to protect what's important to him.
It shows that while Thor is a God and deserves to be called such, he never lost sight of the plight of mortality, or respect for those who struggle to fight it well.
Very well written bro
And then he proceeded to destroy his town in his fight with Tony.
@@saqibsheikh2790 Don't worry, I'm pretty sure he bitchslapped Tony out of the town before he fried his armour.
Mark 85: How does it feel to be looked down by a mere mortal?
@@FilthyFrankenjoyer Was knocked out by a single throw from Mjolnir.
Ironman: “my suit’s fried , how am I supposed to get back to base?”
Thor:”Walk “
Coldest line 🥶
i love how thor uses 1% more of his actual power than normal (he usually just messes around and its a bit of a game for him) just to scare the pants of stark. he knew starks suit can take a beating and he made it hurt.
I do love it when Thor reminds Tony of the massive difference between them. That he’s The God of Thunder, and Tony’s a man in a tin suit.
Holy shit is it ever so fucking satisfying to see Stark get pimp slapped back into his place without being able to do a damn thing to stop it.
Steve was always the one that stopped Thor from ruining Tony out of respect. Tony getting Steve killed, well there’s no one to calm Thor and that’s what happens.
Tony's like "How do I get home?"
Thor "Walk....bitch!"
Tony won the Civil War, Became director of shield, And was able to make his own Government sanctioned Avengers teams, But not without losing some things. The respect, trust, and deep friendships that he made with other heroes that weren't on his side.
And then Green Goblin got put in charge and turned the system Tony made against him and created the Dark Avengers
@@rodimusriderv2368 Yeah but on the bright side it gave Tony the opportunity to start regaining the trust of his hero friends, Not to mention Steve came back which was the main reason people held the grudge for so long. Despite not being the one that pulled the trigger they held him responsible for Captain America's death.
One of the most richly satisfying (and well deserved) curb-stomps in Marvel history.
i loved this scene when i first ran across. Pity that so many writers can't manage this level.
Bring back JMS.
Yeah, this was truly an example of excellent writing.
*most
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 who is JMS?
One reason I love this is the way Thor's dialog is written. With a single exception, he doesn't raise his voice. This isn't a rage moment, even his attacks on Iron Man seem cold and economical.
It is focused and tranquil fury.
I chose to believe that Thor spoke barely above a whisper and with no emotion.
4:04
"...that Thor spoke barely above a whisper and with no emotion."
He spoke with PLENTY of emotion. The storms were his voice. 😉
I read this comic when I was young. I hadn't read civil war or knew what was happening. But even still I knew Thor was in the right. Such a good comic
Tony created an Android that impersonated Thor and fooled many of the heroes into thinking it was actually him. It ended up killing another Superhero in cold blood and wounding others. That's why Thor was so angry at Tony when he got back to Earth.
I mean I get iron man has done some cool things in his suit but he acts like he walks around with odin's armor, like he's some unstoppable force bro you stay getting stomped
Well he made a armor for Odin once
That’s what very high intelligence does, makes people feel like a god until they actually go toe to toe with one lmao
I mean...he kinda is an unstoppable force
@@punkzx2608 no, youre confused with the hulk
Everytime he makes a new armor
He stays invincible for a while
And then someome comes and wrecks his shit to the next dimentiom
So he makes a new armor
And the cycle repeats
This is my THOR! Anything less has been disingenuous and fraudulent. Thor & The Black Panther are my favorite Avengers. Love Cap and Iron man also.
Agreed my friend
When I was reading comics in the '60s Thor defeated the living planet Ego and then saved Ego by driving Galactus away. This was a little more like that cosmic level Thor.
@@jeffthompson9622 he borrowed his father's power on top of being pissed in this it was already a wrap before it began lol
I remember reading this in the aftermath of Civil War. I had no idea if the context of him 'being dead' was Canon calling out the Ragnarok Storyline or something else (Thor has a track record of courting death as often as Deadpool sometimes) but *man* it was refreshing to have Iron Man finally get his comeuppance. His character was assassinated worse than Cap's in the Civil War event, and this story rightfully called them out on how far he crossed a line.
This is what we should’ve gotten in The Avengers (2012)
Yup, I was waiting for it in Age of Ultron too lol
@Bradyn Kerr Even though Thor left the earth before Civil War?
MCU Ironman was a cashcow so Disney wouldn't do that even if their power levels dictates so. Hell, MCU IM fanboys still think MCU IM can go toe to toe with MCU Thanos because he made him "bleed" when it was just a minor scratch and it wasn't bleeding.
We did. His name was the all powerful and unstoppable captain Marvel.
@@lemuellala2 I will not surprised if MCU iron Man fanboys tell that iron Man with prep can beat living tribunal.
Lol these fanboys sucks
I freaking love this Thor, so badass and imposing. The closest we get to him in the movies was the one from Infinity War
I love that taika added some humor to him but I do miss the warrior thor
@@MrTREEHUNTER22 ....WORST MOVIE EVER MADE....WALKED OUT AFTER THE THANOS BATTLE WITH HULK..! GTFOH!!
@@johnbianchi9401 what are you on about
@@theauthor6669 I'm not on about anything.All the Marvel Avengers movies are absolute garbage!
@@johnbianchi9401 not all of them, the first avengers movie and infinity war were fuckin' awesome, Ultron was meh and the rest of them were fun to watch one time. It's completely subjective and I'm not sure what the avengers has to do with him saying they should bring back the warrior in Thor.
This. Will. Never. Get. Old.
This might be my all-time favorite Thor moment of all time. Just pure awesomeness of the highest level.
"Walk." Ice cold.
Anyone else wish we saw this in the MCU?
Nope Tony wasnt a dick in the MCU
@@noranradmusic Umm, yeah he was. Hacking into S.H.I.E.L.D. which gave Loki all he needed to escape, creating Ultron because of paranoia, throwing his friends under the bus because of PR, and oh yes, trying to kill one of his friends and his friend out of revenge.
@@thegeneral4943that last little bit was justified
@@jordanschruder2260 No, it wasn't. For one thing, Hydra was who made Bucky kill his parents, and nothing justifies ruining Earth's main line of defense against the unknown for revenge. To quote Rocket: "Everybody's got dead people! It's no excuse to get everyone else dead along the way!"
@@thegeneral4943 few little details left out. Like cap knowing it was Bucky all along who did the assassination and not letting tony know. This coupled with the line in age of ultron: sometimes my teammates don’t tell me things make Steve the biggest hypocrite out of everyone.
I remember this Thor fondly it was a peak of respect for the character. He wasnt sitting in Beta Ray Bills shadow as a worse version of Thor than Bill. They seemed equals as Odin intended. And ten minutes later he was back to getting his ass kicked by everyone. Thor has had a lengthy run of good days since Ragnarok before Civil War. Thor in the early 2000s had a few years of just fantastic stories and strong portrayals. Ah the good old days.
Thor also in this run was showing his powers inherited as the Son Of Gaea. This guy can legit create earthquakes and storms that could decimate the whole planet. Tony and his "Government threats" 😂
Me as Thor at about the 7:00 while Tony is realizing that he was about a hair's breath from dying: So...now that you're no longer a bully, in full control, NOW you want to offer an alternative? You rolled up all 'With the government, for the government...' when you could have LED with 'compromise.' This showed what a jerk Tony is lately.
lately?...
@@ghuff31 yeah,I think he has been like that from the beginning lol
And recently Tony mistook wielding Thor's hammer for wielding his power and was reminded through calm rage why Mjolnir or not Thor is still a God... and left thinking that hitting Thor with his own weapon mattered. Ha !!
It did matter; it was funny and he got it memed, which was his goal. That one was more about getting a whack and tactfully surrendering in than winning a fight, and he accomplished both.
@@cr820 Even so, they can just have Thor remove that imagery from existence without using much magic and no reader would question it.
@@GuardianGrarl Asgardians have magic for destroying memes? Y'know, why not. Careful kids, Thor will steal your Pepes!
Cloning Thor was probably the biggest mistake done by Tony and Reed or anyway top 3 mistakes. Not only for their God complex of inferiority they cloned Thor just to see if it would work, they created an abomination that killed fellow heroes and couldn't be controlled. Iron Man is the typical example of rich people who in real life try to get condoned for the wrong shit they do by making amends with charity and such. This reality check from Thor was long overdue.
Plus in the end, he still gave Tony a chance to make amends by wanting to hear his words.
The cool part is it shows how Thor want to make amends to since if he was there when the hurricane hit he could have stopped it but he couldn’t bc he died
Y'know I completely forgot about Reed in this cloning thing, did Thor ever confront him ?
@@goasupreme4804
He left the chat when Thor entered. 😁
Not the biggest mistake but close. Biggest was shooting Hulk into space and instead of going to peaceful world, wound up in gladiator world where he was able to lead a rebellion and raise an army. One that would go on a quest for vengeance after the ship they designed went nuclear from sabotage killing Hulk's pregnant wife and the families of those warriors. Even more frightening was the persona of the Hulk they would face, not some dumb brute or wishy washy nerdy professor but the utterly ruthless, remorseless Conqueror Hulk.
It was stated the ship exploded by the hands of one of hulk' followers; in this matter, Tony and Reed don't have guilt
Tony felt all big and bad while Thor was away and thought he could walk up on the god of thunder and make threats. He forgot what a fucking power house Thor actually is. Thor put Tony in his place. One of my favorite moments in Marvel.
I swear the dialogue for Thor in the comics is miles beyond the MCU.
"Thor, you don't know the whole story"
... maybe start with that next time lol.
How arrogant of Tony to believe Thor would just come with him quietly. Or that he could even defeat Thor.
This is the same Tony that told Peter to reveal himself and after that gave the kid the F*** you treatment.
So well done. The barely contained rage/tension was handled well.
Thor here is like superman and iron man is like batman in this situation, if he wanted to, thor could kill tony almost instantly and with no effort at all just like superman can kill batman easily if he wanted, only difference is that thor is a literal god while Superman is an alien with godlike powers and strength
Second difference. Batman always has a plan to fight superman. Be it kryptonite, red solar energy, magic, or kryptonian technology. Meanwhile Iron man has to make a type of "enemy" buster and even then they can fail
@@smasher3261 Batman's plans only matter as long as Superman doesn't get serious about trying to kill him.
If that ever happened, there are so many ways Superman could instakill Batman that I can't even count them, and then just go on about his day like nothing significant happened.
@@JakkFrost1 well this is cap
@@martel8936 how so?
@@JakkFrost1 Yeah I never really understood the Batman vs Superman argument. Not even a fan of DC but there’s no way Batman gets within an inch of Superman if he just decides “okay you’re dead now”. The comics give way too much plot armor imo.
Now this is a Thor worthy of both Fear and Respect and is Definitely what I’d like to see more of
I have a theory on this “version” of Thor.
In the “DISASSEMBLE” story line for Thor; He reset the Ragnarok cycle that was put in place by “those that live in shadow” or the “gods” of the gods. Since each cycle made the Asgardians and the Aesar weaker with each revolution the Thor we grew up with was the weakest of Thors. Now since the cycle has been removed everyone in the Asgardian mythos returned to their original power scale. Which would dwarf any previous iterations of any of those characters. So THIS Thor is not only more powerful but also has the OdinForce on top of his world busting power. Is to equate him to any of the higher end celestial power houses. In truth Thor showed an enormous amount of restraint.
Back when Marvel actually wrote good stories
I miss the early 2000 comics!!!
After civil war most writers were really pissed off with what Iron Man had become, so they protested the editorial mandates by just wailing on him whenever they got the chance.
Thor: Be assured, we will finish...discussing...your violation of my genetic code.
Tony: *Craps his armor-pants.*
Tony Stark is portrayed quite differently in the movies by RDJ than he was in the comics. Many don't realize that. Now they've changed him a bit, but he was very arrogant, a complete a-hole and almost bordering on villainous sometimes.
He'd always showcase his "power" by using the ones who were truly powerful, Sentry, Thor, Hulk, etc.
Remember when he ordered Sentry to just rip off Doctor Doom's mask? And Sentry just went through the shields of Dr. Doom and man-handled him?
Tony then asked Doom "Do you acknowledge my authority now?". No, he acknowledged Sentry's authority, you egomaniac! Not many can break through Doom's shields BTW.
That's why Iron Man was never the face of Marvel. Hulk, Spider-Man, Thor were, until RDJ showed up. This little segment proves that Stark will never understand true power and yet he has always toyed with it, without having it. Same goes for Fury and the whole SHIELD too.
BTW, doesn't Siege happen after this? Or does it happen before?
After, I think. Norman Osborn isn’t in charge of Shield yet, and he was the one who tried to do what Tony threatened to do here; invade New Asgard, along with his dark Avengers.
@@wesleygriffiths8748 I see. Funnily enough Osborne was the same as Stark. Using the likes of Sentry, manipulating him. We all know how that ended, until Bob just decided to get himself killed and stay dead.
what an epic smackdown. it wasn't even a fight but Iron Man didn't know that ... yet. he found out the hard way. the look on his face .. er mask after he hits Thor with full replusor rays and it had no effect at all is .. PRICELESS!!!
Lets be real tony had this and more coming for a long time
I miss those comics. Nice storytelling, good writing. Characters are at their best.
I understand if tony felt guilty. He however was wrong on everything he did to cap and his army, thor, and spidey. He became a cocky power hungry tyrant. Thankfully Thor came to sort him out and open his eyes.
This was the truly badass Thor, looking like a god not a superhero in a costume.
My all-time favorite Thor comic book moment. EVER ! And, started reading the comic in the 60s 😊. Marvel consistently finds a way to make this character less than what he is. The issue this fight is from, is full of instances where Thor is truly the God of Thunder. As I read it, I said, " About damned time."
''I pulled him inside out and saved the universe! What have you done lately Tony?''
-Nova
Always loved that scene, Rich Rider calling Tony's BS for what it was. Plus Nova had the worldmind at that point and would have beat the brakes off Stark, lol.
What comic is the from?
I don't know why people forget that Thor is the God of Thunder. He doesn't even need to be on Earth to destroy it. All it takes is a very bad thunderstorm for few weeks and humanity will go back to stone age.
His Thunder storm can easily destroy entire Galaxy. One tiny planet is nothing to a God.
Now THIS IS THOR!!!! Damn that was badass!
I love this Thor, he didn't show arrogance to that guy earlier cuz he understood how they felt. But to stark it's a whole different story. Simply saying that just know your place in front of your big brother. All this time he was holding back.
Makes me wonder how would Thor react if he found out that Stark made Spider-Man reveal his identity to the rest of the world.
i love the threat to the US about flooding them or using thunder an lightning to take out anything airborne. basically Thor saying im sick of your shit, heres what happens when you "annoy" a god
Always a treat to re-read the classics.
“Walk”like the mortal you are.
Now reading comics without epic music will never be the same.
Wonderful editing, good music choice. I don't normally "like" videos uploading the work of others, but you did your work here.
Civil War started out as an interesting philosophical exploration of two reasonable but contrasting positions, but Marvel's stable of writers almost immediately chucked all nuance and character out the window to make Tony and Reed cartoonishly evil
I did not read the entire comic run. Did Thor pay reed a visit? He was also involved in the creation of the clone not just tony so I’m assuming thor provides equal ass whoppings to those involved in degrading his image
If Tony instead said "That's tough, for everything that you've done for them, they spit on your efforts and cry foul." "But, it's not their fault. After all, for all of our power, we can't console their trama." "It pains me to say this, but this past few months has been hard for everyone, someone died, the people in their grief used the power of Uncle Sam to pigeonhole us heroes into a governmental hellhole, and... Someone we both know isn't with us anymore." "And this hurts worse, but... It's my duty. But I promise, after this is done-"
Thor: WHAT DO YOU KNOW OF DUTY!!!!!!!
*Thor's godly hissy fit over clone Thor ensues.
Tony: Yes... I know... ugh. That I betrayed your trust, but I was trying to stop a war of immeasurable magnitude... so that whatevers left of us could survive.
Thor: A war for mortals is no place for a God!!!!!!!
Tony: And that's exactly why we needed someONE who was strong enough to take them.
*After the beatdown
Tony: But you'll start a world war!!!!
Thor: That is of no concern of mine, mortal!!!
Tony: But the billions of innocents
Thor: SILENCE!!!!!!!!
*Lightning strikes and thunder roars
Tony: I've seen you in your heyday. You've had plenty of opportunities to either destroy the earth or let someone or someTHING else kill us or enslave us.
*Thor angrily raises his legendary mythological weapon, charged with deadly intent
Tony: If the Thor who helped us despite our flaws is within you right now...
*Tony closes his eyes. Possibly for the final time
Tony: Then I hope he comes back.
*Thor lowers mjolnir to the chest plate and charges it to full power, wasting his attack
*Thor strolls away from his punished former brother in arms
Thor: Wise words mortal, though I thought you had lost them long ago
*Tony gets back up, coughing and wheezing
Tony: At... At least take a page from the old days and lift it in the air.
*Thor begrudgingly obeys this request by launching Asgard several miles into the air and levitating it in Earth's skyline, making Asgard (for a time at least) the crown jewel of America
Thor: I suggest you follow in the actions of an OLD friend of mine. And FLEE.
Thor: And be forewarned mortal, if I find out you did something as vexing as this again!!!!! I will not be as courteous as I am right now.
*Tony nods in agreement and flies off
*Thor jolted to see if his former adversary was going to counterattack
*Nothing is there and Thor smirks
Thor: Well done mortal.
*Thor flies up to his mythological wonder in the sky
END
When it took a literal god to bring Tony back in his place. Shows that Tony became absolutely deluded and needs to bring him down a peg.
Thank you for mentioning the source comic in the description!
it's funny how Tony despite his genius doesn't know that they are beings way for powerful than him. Tony is just a human who could die instantly unlike other godly beings.
Tony needs to understand that his armor can't solve all his problems. This is a man that pretty much said f*ck friendships, if you're not with us, you're against us, he broke something Thor valued more then anything *family* that sense of belonging and he was violated.
Not just that. Tony stole Thor's DNA and created a clone of him in which went rogue and killed a Superhero in cold blood.
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Is that how you define friendship?
Is it?
*I S I T ?*
Tony forgot that ONLY the armor that Odin gifted, then took back is the one armor that could go toe-to-toe with Thor. Any that Tony could make with the resources he has all FAIL against an angry GOD OF THUNDER and STORMS.
Knowing all the lives that were lost in Katrina along with the Superhero Civil war and no one doing anything Thor was rageful with every right with the clone of him being an insult on point
I didn't like how they made civil war, both the comics and the MCU missed out on many things. It could have been an amazing discussion on security vs freedom. They hit upon the subject a few times in the comic run, but it always got swept aside in favour of personal things to do with the characters.
It's an important debate to have and in the context of the Marvel universe, it could have been done very well.
This got me so hyped. I lost the love a thrill of reading comics as a kid and your channel with videos like this brought back memories of reading comics with my late father. Keep up the great work.
This exactly why Thor and hulk wouldn’t have worked in civil war, not cuz of their strength but they legit didn’t give af about it
He thought he could bully the God of Thunder into following the governments laws like some sort of lap dog? Fat chance
The Ironman suit is one of the most versatile pieces of technology in the Marvel universe. Yet Tony is forced to climb a chain link fence after angering Thor.
When i talk to my friends about how thor was extremely depowered for the mcu i always show them this. They have a better understandings of what power is between the two.
DAMN! Thor literally humbled Tony here
This is the story I've been waiting all my life for