Finally an accurate description of how much above the avengers Thor actually is. This guy eventually becomes stronger than Odin yet is treated like a run-of-the-mill superhero, finally doin my boy justice
He’s like Superman I swear. Superman is stronger than a majority of the JL and is always treated like a normal dude. Thor should be more than able to mob the floor with the entire avengers crew easily.
People don’t remember just how despised Iron Man was in the comic community at this time in the aftermath of Civil War. Quite a few writers who disagreed with Civil War were having Iron Man get brutally beat down in various issues. It wasn’t until the Iron Man film and RDJ’s amazing performance that people started liking Iron Man again.
I read somewhere that during the making of Civil War. There wasn't a lot of communication between writers, in the Iron Man Tie In's which were pretty well written. So while the writers of the tie ins where going one way, Mark Millar made the characters go the total opposite.
Iron Man was not despised. There was a division regarding his stance. As it was with any other major Marvel character who took a side in the political side of things. And everyone was getting beat up during Civil War. It's why it's called war and not Civil Debate. And Iron Man movie had nothing to do with anything, Jesus. The comics themselves did it with the fantastic run on IM by Knauf's. Also, it's funny how you mention MCU when MCU's very own so-called Civil War made Stark objectively on the wrong side the argument and a hypocrite when he blames The Avengers for something he is to blame while then contradicting his own motivation when forcing a 15-year-old teenager to do something against his will.
@@antona.1327 On that point Tony is really hard to like in the comic run of civil war. Mainly cause his side both made the crazy Thor clone and hired supervillains that were just murdering people when no one was looking. Tony makes a very good argument, but I tend to not trust the guy actively employing and enabling supervillains. Like both sides make very good points, but it's hard to just look at the arguments both sides present when one side clearly cares less about morals.
This is true. Everyone in the Illuminate were on my sh!t list for what they did to Hulk. I started liking Iron Man after I read Iron Wars. And I later realized I didn’t read a Tony Stark story, it was a Copy of Iron Man’s mind in a suit of Armor. Amazing twist!
especially with the trouble the thor clone is still causing. still pissed with the characters who stood on the other side of the matter when Goliath was killed.
The only reason I don't is because Thor is a god. Thor has to have people he doesn't care about. Thor isn't a hero, he's a god. And even I have to keep that in mind.
Gotta give Thor respect He what tony did was jacked up not only to Him but also others and when he showed his full power he made it clear He was giving Tony the same fear he gave to others showing even if you screw someone over or ruin their lifes the victim or the person you hurt won't hold anything back or will make it clear they are angry with you
3:14 Notice his throat. It’s part purple. He gripped Tony’s suit so tight, it even bruised his throat. *That* is righteous fury. That was absolute power.
He could’ve crushed through easily but didn’t. Yeah ik its not the most powerful version of the two characters, but generally most iterations of Thor should beat Iron Man. He’s literally a demi god.
I like how Thor, even after Tony FULLY disrespects him twice over with hunting his friends AND the genetic bullshit....is willing to let the compromise happen. That says how much the friendship meant.
Whats sad about this is that thor probably was hurt not because of some random copycat doing things he wouldn't even do but the fact that one of his friends that he treats as a brother would put a dirt to his name and to everything he stand for, but he still lets him live.
0:41 This is why I love Thor with his helmet, it gives him a powerful impression of a serious individual but I mostly love how it accentuates his furious expression in this moment. The helmet casting shadow over his eyes makes Thor much more menacing. Truly the calm before the storm.
@@april1st183 Context is everything. Cap saw the collateral damage and realized the war had spilled over to the public harming the very people they swore to protect. Sounds exactly like Cap.
Yes. Shame Disney kept downgrading him in each subsequent movie. I’m scared to see what they next do to Thro. Wouldn’t be surprised if he walked around in a diaper so they make him a literal grown baby
Agreed. I feel like MCU Thor lacks that mystical feeling. I personally don’t see him as a god, but as an alien. I feel like Moon Knight did better in how they portrayed magic and the gods.
the original thor movie directed by Kenneth Branaugh was trying to make him and all of asgard more godly. People will blame thor 3 for changing his character which it did, but I have always thought that however flawed his first solo movie was it got the spirit of a literal norse god right.
This was back when Iron Man was not a popular character and started becoming more of an anti-hero. Then just a year later the Iron Man movie came out, and everything changed.
Iron Man was at his height of popularity during Civil War. And yeah, a big movie came out and normies saw it, big deal. It's irrelevant to bring up, MCU fanboy.
I feel like people (Or at least writers) forget Thor was introduced to 1 up The Hulk, and Gods aren't just some long living humans with magic beams or natural Super Soldier serum.
That's crazy I didn't know that it's funny because layer in hulk comics he shakes Thor to his core by knocking a tooth out his mouth that makes it all the more terrifying
@@MrVaiza yeah except the second thor got a hit of gamma, the hulk at his peak was getting fodderized. They're supposed to be even or Thor stronger. Imaginary Axis did every fight and Thor was winning by at least 2.
@@theauthor6669 The Hulk has no limit to his strength as he gets angrier. His strength would at some point surpass Thor's as the fight progresses, if it even gets to that point. It wouldn't matter. Thor still would win because he is still phenomenally strong and has literally many centuries of combat training and experience, battle savvy, and more intelligence.
1:14 The norse-like font when Thor finally speaks is one of the minor details I've always loved about Marvel comics (probably not exclusive to Marvel, but still)!
I really like the idea that thor who can control some weather is shown with his outside perspective to see the things he could stop and question the other heroes. If thor was shown as more intelligent in the MCU I think that would be really cool. He can still be prideful and dumb, but a more proper showing of his good nature
Thor used to be more intelligent in the MCU. Then Taika Waititi came in and said ''brains are overrated'' and made him a single-celled surfer bro dipsh1t.
@@antona.1327 Current MCU Thor isn't a dipshit. He's a dude who lost a lot and overcompensates with humor. He hasn't actually taken the time to grieve and deal with his pain. He's just bottling it all up and pretending he's fine. It's *really* gonna suck for the face of the villain he's fighting when all that bottled up everything finally spills out. Because whoever it is will have the worst day in film or comic history.
Thor has already said that in all fights with mortals, he has to hold back lest he instagib everyone by accident. Thor is literally one of 3 heroes to make it to the end of time. The other 2 being Wolverine who merges with the Phoenix Force and Franklin Richards who is destine to be the lone survivor of the 616 universe when it finally collapses and becoming the "Galactus" of the one born after. That's it, 1 god and 2 mutant heroes make it to the end of the finish line.
And also Omnipotent Doom, Gorr the Necroverse and some other people. But the most impressive thing is, at the end, Thor came out on top on all of them.
@mellowmoonlight9771 to be fair, Omni Doom and Gorr are villains lol. But as you said Thor bested them all and fights back the end of the universe at the end of time.
I really like this portrayal of Thor, i mean, he's a full on god of this universe i like it when they acknowledge that he's on a whole different level to the mortals.
Stark seriously tried to demand that Thor submit to his own Yankee overlords .The KING who can destroy Washington D.C. and almost every U.S. military base in seconds .And tried to do this after violently persecuting , opressing and ruining the Life of all of said King's friends for the crime of risking their Lives to save those of others and stealing his Genes to make a robotic abomination that defiled his image and murdered one of his friends .Oof , that was not going to go well .
@@selfimprovement5873I’d mockingly say “I’ll get right in that.” Never to do such an arrogant thing after the crimes I (Tony, never once would I lol,) committed against my friends.
*This* is Thor. Badass and righteous with control over his rage even when he’s willing to show, *especially* when he’s willing to show it. Meanwhile, in the MCU, Civil War happens because Cap is trying to save Bucky from Hydra’s grasp and the government wants to absorb the Avengers while Thor and Hulk have a romcom adventure on top of what’s supposed to be the foundations for the Planet Hulk story, one of Marvel’s most successful comic stories.
"As for your masters...since power is all they understand, tell them that Thor says this: if any man comes uninvited to Asgard on behalf of those who presume to be powers...within the hour they will understand what true power is." Got chills when I first read that line.
@@SoyDrinker So often I get people asking me questions like that. Its strange to me, because they know exactly what I mean, but ask anyways. As though the answer would at all change anything.
@@rugtub3744 I mean I could potentially guess what you mean but it doesn't really make sense when you look at 80% of the heroes in this franchise that are shown as strong and valorous, so the only thing I can assume is that you are really dumb, or I'm misunderstanding.
What I like most about this scene is that Thor isn't even threatening anyone. He's just telling them the straight up reality of what standing against a literal god will bring.
MMC 2:17 And so the thundergod grabbed the defenseless human by the throat and ripped off his mask. He then drew the fearful warrior close to his face, and in a cool, calm voice he said to him: NERD
I got into marvel comics right when the first civil war was going down. First time actively collecting Spider-Man comics was picking up the issue where he fights Captain America. First time actively picking up DC was infinite crisis on infinite earths when Conner Kent super boy got killed by Super Boy Prime. I had read some comics when I was a kid but it was just a few random comics. Civil war was the first time using my own money to buy comics. But on to this topic I remember being so excited to finally read Thor comics and man did I chose an excellent time with this run
This is what makes superman different from Thor. He sees himself no different from humanity since he grew up with us. As Batman always said: "You're not brave, men are brave. You say that you want to help people, but you can't feel their pain their mortality. It's time you learn what it means to be a man."
Superman doesn't want to be a god. Thor accepts that he is, but does his damnest to be a good one without being a pushover. They both learned the price of wielding such power
thor also respects the common folk and poor people both in mythology and in marvel, just before this fight, a random person blamed thor for something, and thor humbly accepted his failures and didn't lash out at that guy, he only lashed out at tony and the us government
@@gabrielluzlopes5674 Batman *never* underestimates the fact that he's a mortal even without plot armor to protect him. Tony doesn't like to think about being mortal
While reading civil war when I got this part it was immensely satisfying. While I know that their were outside forces that pushed tony to sign/enact the registration act he was still a d**k seeing thor just walk up and show the sheer difference between a man and a god was beyond satisfying 😏
linkara once mention how writers express their satisfaction with civil war by having other character beat the crap out of tony.. and he was right... its so satisfying every time it happened XD
As a casual who read like 2 comics but played lots of video games. This is how I always viewed the Avengers pre MCU. Hulk, Thor then a bunch of humans who can and will get CLAPPED
Because insted of writte a good story where both sides had a point Civil War character assassinated Tony to be the bad guy for the event and most people agree that It was a stupid decision and just try to ignore or fix It.
@@Gabe600Oh, both sides had a point, in fact, those points wouldn’t have crossed as bad had one (Tony) not been such a bitch about the biggest issue the other side had. Secret identities are important. F^ck, we have the f^cking witness protection program *BECAUSE* it is a well known fact that when criminals know the details of ether a law enforcement agent’s life, or a key witness to a horrific or big crime goes to testify, the criminals will use their connections to have that person killed or worse, have their family ether slaughtered or tortured. All so they can ‘set an example’ for anyone who tries to stop them, or to destroy important evidence that could have shut them in the slammer for decades/life. So we know that for f^cking witsec, yet the same f^cking mercy wasn’t being extended to the heroes who put their lives on the line DAILY?!? That’s where Tony crossed the line. Had he conceded on that simple point, I bet a massive amount more of the heroes would have signed up then. That was their only concern, and Tony proved their point valid when he allowed Spider Man’s life to be destroyed.
Holy, this was badass. Yes, We need more of this Thor. He humbled Ironman's ass XD And looking at the comic public date, is this before Disney bought Marvel? If so, no wonder this writing is good.
@@MrHenhen5 he wasn't a dick. And movies have nothing to do with liking him in his comics, which are objectively better written than his movies ever were.
Exactly! Thor is not some alien. He is a LITERAL God! The Norse God of storms, lightning, thunder, battle frenzy, oak trees, healing... and frogs, for some reason. He is all the power of the wild storms of the North Sea given physical form! His power makes giants tremble, renders other deities powerless, and could destroy entire civilizations if he so chose. The only reason he didn't reduce Tony to a bloody smear on the ground was because Cap wouldn't want it.
Sentry is even more unstable than the Hulk. His mental illness often makes him a huge liability. He's only brought in when there's absolutely no other choice. It's like having Superman on your team but he's a severe Schizophrenic.
Thor could accidentally break a planet if he doesn't hold back. Robert Reynolds can accidentally shatter the universe. Bringing him to fight Thor would like bringing a nuke that explodes whenever it feels like it to a knife fight.
Love the channel, even as someone who doesn't read a lot of super hero comics at all, but for some reason like 8 years ago I nabbed the first threw volumes of this series and it is one of my favorites.
Some Feats of Thor: 1. Showed infinite strength on at least 3 occasions (one of them was Thor as a child) 2. His lightning is so incredibly powerful that it can hurt the Chaos King (which destroyed over 98% of the multiverse) 3. Survived the Godbomb which was designed to destroy and kill all godly pantheons in all the universe. 4. He is incredibly fast that he can react faster than the "speed of thought". 5. Thor has defeated a creature called "Demogorge, the God-Eater" which consumes gods and takes their powers. By the end, the Demogorge was as powerful as Eternity and Thor still managed to defeat him. 6. one Shotted Fully Feed Galactus and black winter back to back ( Black winter was entity who used to eat Marvel and DC universe for lunch ) And Galactus was his servant 7. Erased Existence of Mangog during fight even Odin used to fear mangog (Mangog possesses the strength, stamina, durability and endurance of a "billion billion beings", and has the ability to manipulate magic for energy projection and shapeshifting. The character appears to be indestructible, and has stated it will always exist so long as there is hatred) 8.Base Thor killed Void -Most Powerful form of Sentry on his command ( Even At base sentry Holds powers of million exploding suns ) 9. Knocked out Phoenix Force not once but twice (cosmic entity, one of the oldest known, with all the power of life in the universe, past, present and future. It exists simultaneously ) 10. Defeated 5 shadow Gods with a single blow ( Shadow Gods are Gods of Asgardian Gods who exist beyond the Multiverse even cosmic beings like infinity, eternity couldn't step foot where they exist ) 11.Killed Glory who had powers of 10000 Gods including Powers of Gods like Zeus, Odin , Hercules, Etc
Thor: i see that in my absence, you have been busy...how do you mortals put it? "fornicating around?" well i think it is time that you finally "found out"... tony: ...oh shi- *full power thunder crash*
@@30.06onaGrassyKnoll Probs cus we didn’t get the pleasure of seeing that arrogant bastard get put in his place. We only saw the aftermath of Thanos humbling him
@30.06 on a Grassy Knoll nah search up Superior Iron man its when he has that werid liquid sliver suit I just wonder how that fight would go because that Tony seemed a little more manic and had a really hard core God complex I don't want to give to much away because the comics he's in are really good definitely when daredevil gets involved.
I wonder what would've happened if Tony simply said, "I fucked up, and I'll face wathever punishment you believe I deserve" Thor knows how prideful Tony is, I haven't seen a single soul on Marvel getting shocked when Tony says "sorry, I was wrong" not "we" not "close to being right" but just "I was wrong"
Tony did say he fucked up after civil war but also tony wasn’t himself during this event extremis was affecting his mind which is why he went off the rails
Marvel comic book writers: What if [Insert Superhero Name]... stopped holding back??? Marvel comic book nerds: *hngngggh* oops i need to change my pants again
Tony’s mind was being affected by extremis that’s why he was doing villainous shit during civil war I guess that means every hero who’s been mind controlled doesn’t deserve forgiveness
Civil War was harsh to read for me. I’m a huge hulk fan and they did him dirty way early on. I was not a fan of Thor because I thought he was silly or an insult to actual Norse Myth… but when I saw this issue, I was floored by Thor’s righteous anger and amazed that he put the fear of Gods into Tony Stark. I’ve been a Hulk and Thor fan ever since.
imagine while you're dead one of your "friends" clones you and has that clone kill another one of your friends, the whole Ragnarök clone killing black goliath thing has to be one of the worst things tony ever did
@@30.06onaGrassyKnoll another comic book narrator channel, I've just been noticing that mullet man has been following the same comics zero does but a day later and find that weird
this one has the exact same title as the zero video as well. coincidence is a possible cause, but idk. i can the difficulty of making comic related content, as there are a lot of books out there that aren't interesting enough to make a whole video about, and the sheer volume of books makes it difficult to sift through and find ones that actually are worth making a video about. that being said, it's not cool to farm views by copying someone else's content. i think this has been happening a lot in the realm of comic-related content on youtube. the same like 15 stories get circlejerked by every channel until the story becomes stale. there's obviously a limited amount of good stories out there, so to some extent there's going to be overlap, but it's not honorable to just see what other channels that are like yours are doing and then copying them. i'm saying this with good faith, as i believe mullet man has good intentions and is a decent guy, i just want him to take a step back and look away from the numbers for a while. people love bite sized stories that are super off-the-wall and defy average expectations, but the well will eventually run dry.
Characters like Thor and another all powerful example of Celestial grade Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII (no matter which timeline but especially the newer stuff) are so woefully nerfed when in true raw power this would be the real end result.
Could call it a self nerf so they don't AOE their allies to death along with their enemies. XD The sucky thing about being that powerful is you have a really big hammer and many nails, some of which you don't want to hammer accidentally.
One of these days all the writers should get together and make a comic run with all the heroes fighting each other to the death. Some bs item will bring them back of course, but no holding back and a definitive answer of their level. This yo-yo of power levels aggravates me
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Iron Man getting his ass whooped made me laugh. Bro really said “the us goverment will take Asgard”🤣🤣
Thor more or less said "You're welcome to try, but it would end badly."
Tony Stark a🤡Thor Would Definitely Whoop His Ass Maybe Even Kill Him He’s a Scrub😂😂
Finally an accurate description of how much above the avengers Thor actually is. This guy eventually becomes stronger than Odin yet is treated like a run-of-the-mill superhero, finally doin my boy justice
Again this is pre-MCU Thor
Right? Thor is a fricking GOD, of course he should be strong as heck.
He’s like Superman I swear. Superman is stronger than a majority of the JL and is always treated like a normal dude.
Thor should be more than able to mob the floor with the entire avengers crew easily.
@@sun332s7 Well save for Hulk. At the top of their respective power they are both planetbusterlevel.
Pretty much lol
Thor has always been Marvel's Superman, not Blue Marvel, not The Sentry, not Hyperion, but Thor and Thor alone.
People don’t remember just how despised Iron Man was in the comic community at this time in the aftermath of Civil War. Quite a few writers who disagreed with Civil War were having Iron Man get brutally beat down in various issues. It wasn’t until the Iron Man film and RDJ’s amazing performance that people started liking Iron Man again.
I read somewhere that during the making of Civil War. There wasn't a lot of communication between writers, in the Iron Man Tie In's which were pretty well written. So while the writers of the tie ins where going one way, Mark Millar made the characters go the total opposite.
Iron Man was not despised. There was a division regarding his stance. As it was with any other major Marvel character who took a side in the political side of things. And everyone was getting beat up during Civil War. It's why it's called war and not Civil Debate. And Iron Man movie had nothing to do with anything, Jesus. The comics themselves did it with the fantastic run on IM by Knauf's. Also, it's funny how you mention MCU when MCU's very own so-called Civil War made Stark objectively on the wrong side the argument and a hypocrite when he blames The Avengers for something he is to blame while then contradicting his own motivation when forcing a 15-year-old teenager to do something against his will.
@@antona.1327 On that point Tony is really hard to like in the comic run of civil war. Mainly cause his side both made the crazy Thor clone and hired supervillains that were just murdering people when no one was looking. Tony makes a very good argument, but I tend to not trust the guy actively employing and enabling supervillains. Like both sides make very good points, but it's hard to just look at the arguments both sides present when one side clearly cares less about morals.
This is true. Everyone in the Illuminate were on my sh!t list for what they did to Hulk.
I started liking Iron Man after I read Iron Wars. And I later realized I didn’t read a Tony Stark story, it was a Copy of Iron Man’s mind in a suit of Armor. Amazing twist!
@@antona.1327 I certainly despised him at the time. For all the reasons Thor listed out in this video.
I love Thor telling Tony to just "Walk", and given what Tony did during Civil War, I FULLY agree with the punishment dealt out here.
especially with the trouble the thor clone is still causing. still pissed with the characters who stood on the other side of the matter when Goliath was killed.
The only reason I don't is because Thor is a god. Thor has to have people he doesn't care about. Thor isn't a hero, he's a god. And even I have to keep that in mind.
@@MamaMOBbro what? 😂
Gotta give Thor respect He what tony did was jacked up not only to Him but also others and when he showed his full power he made it clear He was giving Tony the same fear he gave to others showing even if you screw someone over or ruin their lifes the victim or the person you hurt won't hold anything back or will make it clear they are angry with you
3:14 Notice his throat. It’s part purple.
He gripped Tony’s suit so tight, it even bruised his throat.
*That* is righteous fury. That was absolute power.
good catch, knowing Tony he'll probably play it off as a hickey lol
Somebody is very excited...
He could’ve crushed through easily but didn’t. Yeah ik its not the most powerful version of the two characters, but generally most iterations of Thor should beat Iron Man. He’s literally a demi god.
@@Zzzodiackillerrrdemi-god means half god and half human, or a minor deity. Thor neither minor nor half anything less than a god. So he's just god.
That mean Thor fingers bent the metal of the suit like skin
I like how Thor, even after Tony FULLY disrespects him twice over with hunting his friends AND the genetic bullshit....is willing to let the compromise happen. That says how much the friendship meant.
What i liked is how FAST Stark backed off when Thor reminded him WHAT he was. But. It is canon that Iron man's armor cannot be overloaded.
@@xhagast It's canon that my underwear hasn't been overloaded, but I'm sure someday, somewhere, it'll happen.
Whats sad about this is that thor probably was hurt not because of some random copycat doing things he wouldn't even do but the fact that one of his friends that he treats as a brother would put a dirt to his name and to everything he stand for, but he still lets him live.
@@the_joe_reynolds_foundationBro 💀
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That made me chuckle
0:41 This is why I love Thor with his helmet, it gives him a powerful impression of a serious individual but I mostly love how it accentuates his furious expression in this moment. The helmet casting shadow over his eyes makes Thor much more menacing. Truly the calm before the storm.
I like how this is Thor's way of saying, "Chill lil bro. You only won Civil War because I wasn't there, you are *not* him."
Tony only won because Cap gave up.
Technically, they didn't win cap team surrender
@@tahan9323 Never. That doesnt even sound like Cap.
@@april1st183 Context is everything. Cap saw the collateral damage and realized the war had spilled over to the public harming the very people they swore to protect. Sounds exactly like Cap.
@@tahan9323 Ok yeah that sounds more like Cap.
This is the Thor we need in the MCU, so he can show the other heroes what kind od a god he really is.
Real
The mcu is always gonna hardcore nerf the strong heroes cause they need to stretch out movies arbitrarily
The movies show Thor so pathetically, his hammer can destroy worlds but in the movies captain America just stops it with his shield
Yes. Shame Disney kept downgrading him in each subsequent movie. I’m scared to see what they next do to Thro. Wouldn’t be surprised if he walked around in a diaper so they make him a literal grown baby
@@venomshot2815 i mean he does that in the comics too
Thor in the comics has always been more Godly than his MCU counterpart. I wish we had this Thor.
Agreed. I feel like MCU Thor lacks that mystical feeling. I personally don’t see him as a god, but as an alien. I feel like Moon Knight did better in how they portrayed magic and the gods.
Ever since ragnarok, Thor is little more than a joke in his own story in regards to the MCU. He's a pathetic shell of what the comics version is.
the original thor movie directed by Kenneth Branaugh was trying to make him and all of asgard more godly. People will blame thor 3 for changing his character which it did, but I have always thought that however flawed his first solo movie was it got the spirit of a literal norse god right.
This was back when Iron Man was not a popular character and started becoming more of an anti-hero. Then just a year later the Iron Man movie came out, and everything changed.
Yeah when they literally wiped his mind just to reset him
That sort of explains it?
Iron Man was at his height of popularity during Civil War. And yeah, a big movie came out and normies saw it, big deal. It's irrelevant to bring up, MCU fanboy.
@@antona.1327really off in your own little world, aren’t you?
@@antona.1327Bro is downright delusional 💀
Craziest part is even then Thor was still holding back out of the little respect for Tony he had left.
I feel like people (Or at least writers) forget Thor was introduced to 1 up The Hulk, and Gods aren't just some long living humans with magic beams or natural Super Soldier serum.
That's crazy I didn't know that it's funny because layer in hulk comics he shakes Thor to his core by knocking a tooth out his mouth that makes it all the more terrifying
@@MrVaiza yeah except the second thor got a hit of gamma, the hulk at his peak was getting fodderized. They're supposed to be even or Thor stronger. Imaginary Axis did every fight and Thor was winning by at least 2.
@@theauthor6669 The Hulk has no limit to his strength as he gets angrier. His strength would at some point surpass Thor's as the fight progresses, if it even gets to that point. It wouldn't matter. Thor still would win because he is still phenomenally strong and has literally many centuries of combat training and experience, battle savvy, and more intelligence.
@@thullraven1 Yea agree here. Thor has beaten Zeus before and Zeus was shitting on an intelligent right after World War Hulk level hulk.
@@theauthor6669 lol idk what i just read so
1:14 The norse-like font when Thor finally speaks is one of the minor details I've always loved about Marvel comics (probably not exclusive to Marvel, but still)!
I really like the idea that thor who can control some weather is shown with his outside perspective to see the things he could stop and question the other heroes.
If thor was shown as more intelligent in the MCU I think that would be really cool. He can still be prideful and dumb, but a more proper showing of his good nature
Like in Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes.
Im guessing you didn't listen to the part that said he was dead when this all happened.
To be fair, he just recently resurrected. You know, back from the dead.
Thor used to be more intelligent in the MCU. Then Taika Waititi came in and said ''brains are overrated'' and made him a single-celled surfer bro dipsh1t.
@@antona.1327 Current MCU Thor isn't a dipshit. He's a dude who lost a lot and overcompensates with humor. He hasn't actually taken the time to grieve and deal with his pain. He's just bottling it all up and pretending he's fine.
It's *really* gonna suck for the face of the villain he's fighting when all that bottled up everything finally spills out. Because whoever it is will have the worst day in film or comic history.
I've always love it when characters who usually holds back their full power, unleashes it just to make a statement.
Kingpin: "Tell me about it." 🤕
2:17 "Knoweth my name, motherf_____er."
good one 😂
The greatest humbling in comic history
Thor was very justified in his anger.
Thor has already said that in all fights with mortals, he has to hold back lest he instagib everyone by accident. Thor is literally one of 3 heroes to make it to the end of time. The other 2 being Wolverine who merges with the Phoenix Force and Franklin Richards who is destine to be the lone survivor of the 616 universe when it finally collapses and becoming the "Galactus" of the one born after. That's it, 1 god and 2 mutant heroes make it to the end of the finish line.
WOw...cool info
Hulk does as well...although he isn't a "hero" at that time persay
You forgot about Mr. Immortal, who is the destined backup for Franklin Richards.
And also Omnipotent Doom, Gorr the Necroverse and some other people. But the most impressive thing is, at the end, Thor came out on top on all of them.
@mellowmoonlight9771 to be fair, Omni Doom and Gorr are villains lol. But as you said Thor bested them all and fights back the end of the universe at the end of time.
The fact Tony actually thinks he could stand a chance with Thor is a joke. So happy to see Thor show Tony just a glimpse of his power😂
Tony has stood a chance against thor before but regular iron man is obviously gonna lose against regular thor
Tony started making god killing armour . Then Thor will be 💀💀
@@Xyz04 he destroyed that one as well lol
@@rexyedits08_ Thor can't even destroy that one also 😂
@@Xyz04Pretty sure Thor already demolished Tony's destroyer armors lol
3:10 crazy how Thor’s hand left marks through the suit shows how much stronger he is
I really like this portrayal of Thor, i mean, he's a full on god of this universe i like it when they acknowledge that he's on a whole different level to the mortals.
Stark seriously tried to demand that Thor submit to his own Yankee overlords .The KING who can destroy Washington D.C. and almost every U.S. military base in seconds .And tried to do this after violently persecuting , opressing and ruining the Life of all of said King's friends for the crime of risking their Lives to save those of others and stealing his Genes to make a robotic abomination that defiled his image and murdered one of his friends .Oof , that was not going to go well .
If the president asks you to recruit Thor to our side, what would you do?
@@selfimprovement5873 tell him to go do it himself...fvck that
@@selfimprovement5873 tell him I'll send a letter
@@selfimprovement5873I’d mockingly say “I’ll get right in that.” Never to do such an arrogant thing after the crimes I (Tony, never once would I lol,) committed against my friends.
@@selfimprovement5873 tell him captain puppet you keep quiet and let me do what needs to be done.
I love how iron man actually learned his lesson
Picture if Thor was on Earth at the time of the Civil War.
Iron Man and the Pro-Registration faction never would have had a chance.
"Thor decided to hit a home run with Ironman...." MANNNNNN! 💀💀💀💀
Tony needed to catch this fade.
really wanna read this storyline now, Thor gave me shivers just then
It’s Civil War and Ragnarok, I think, I remembers owning the Civil War comic, but I forgot where tf I put it lol.
*This* is Thor. Badass and righteous with control over his rage even when he’s willing to show, *especially* when he’s willing to show it.
Meanwhile, in the MCU, Civil War happens because Cap is trying to save Bucky from Hydra’s grasp and the government wants to absorb the Avengers while Thor and Hulk have a romcom adventure on top of what’s supposed to be the foundations for the Planet Hulk story, one of Marvel’s most successful comic stories.
naw he really humbled tony, disrespectfully too.
Thor was like "Bitch I am a god, know your place."
Tony deserved it tbh
Bro really tried to stand up against a literal god
@@alexmercer5414My dude literally threatened to bring Ragnarok level end days on the US government. 💀
Gave me rdc vibes lol@@alexmercer5414
"As for your masters...since power is all they understand, tell them that Thor says this: if any man comes uninvited to Asgard on behalf of those who presume to be powers...within the hour they will understand what true power is."
Got chills when I first read that line.
i love these “___ stops holding back” videos! this is the reason why i watch you.
Thor comics: King of asgard and Gigachads
Thor movies: King of hipsters and being a joke
On purpose. Cant have a hero of strength and valor in that flavor.
They had to nerf him. Thor would’ve just soloed all the villains with ease.
@@rugtub3744 What do you mean by "in that flavor"
@@SoyDrinker So often I get people asking me questions like that. Its strange to me, because they know exactly what I mean, but ask anyways.
As though the answer would at all change anything.
@@rugtub3744 I mean I could potentially guess what you mean but it doesn't really make sense when you look at 80% of the heroes in this franchise that are shown as strong and valorous, so the only thing I can assume is that you are really dumb, or I'm misunderstanding.
Norman Osborn: "Well...if you want something done right, do it yourself."
What I like most about this scene is that Thor isn't even threatening anyone. He's just telling them the straight up reality of what standing against a literal god will bring.
I like this Thor a lot. He is not an earthling. He is a GOD!
Seeing this version of Thor makes me realize how the MCU did him dirty
Loved when Thor was like, it’s thorbin time and thorbed tony
Jail 🤣
If only Thor can do that to the writers
LOL the blind hubris in thinking they can threaten asgard, let alone “take it”🤣😂
Tony especially forgot that Thor is used to dealing with other people's hubris. After all, he grew up with Loki
This is the Thor I want from mcu
MMC 2:17
And so the thundergod grabbed the defenseless human by the throat and ripped off his mask. He then drew the fearful warrior close to his face, and in a cool, calm voice he said to him:
NERD
I got into marvel comics right when the first civil war was going down. First time actively collecting Spider-Man comics was picking up the issue where he fights Captain America. First time actively picking up DC was infinite crisis on infinite earths when Conner Kent super boy got killed by Super Boy Prime.
I had read some comics when I was a kid but it was just a few random comics. Civil war was the first time using my own money to buy comics.
But on to this topic I remember being so excited to finally read Thor comics and man did I chose an excellent time with this run
This is what makes superman different from Thor. He sees himself no different from humanity since he grew up with us. As Batman always said: "You're not brave, men are brave. You say that you want to help people, but you can't feel their pain their mortality. It's time you learn what it means to be a man."
Superman doesn't want to be a god. Thor accepts that he is, but does his damnest to be a good one without being a pushover.
They both learned the price of wielding such power
thor also respects the common folk and poor people both in mythology and in marvel, just before this fight, a random person blamed thor for something, and thor humbly accepted his failures and didn't lash out at that guy, he only lashed out at tony and the us government
This is the real Thor, that would demolish Captain Marvel and EVERYONE else, Hulk included. Fuck the M-She-U
Superman vs Batman no holding back + prep time be like:
More like all-out Superman vs Batman without plot armor
@@gabrielluzlopes5674 Batman *never* underestimates the fact that he's a mortal even without plot armor to protect him.
Tony doesn't like to think about being mortal
While reading civil war when I got this part it was immensely satisfying. While I know that their were outside forces that pushed tony to sign/enact the registration act he was still a d**k seeing thor just walk up and show the sheer difference between a man and a god was beyond satisfying 😏
I loved this era of comics
You should cover taskmaster and constictors ark going through avengers academy and siege
Great channel btw
linkara once mention how writers express their satisfaction with civil war by having other character beat the crap out of tony..
and he was right... its so satisfying every time it happened XD
As a casual who read like 2 comics but played lots of video games. This is how I always viewed the Avengers pre MCU. Hulk, Thor then a bunch of humans who can and will get CLAPPED
Most satisfying moment on Marvel comics
i'm still surprised that iron man is still friends with spiderman, thor, hulk etc after all the civil war bullshit that happened.
Yeah this is a problem I have with that storyline
@@Galvatronover I guess after secret wars 2015 everyone turned over a new leaf
Because insted of writte a good story where both sides had a point Civil War character assassinated Tony to be the bad guy for the event and most people agree that It was a stupid decision and just try to ignore or fix It.
@@Gabe600Oh, both sides had a point, in fact, those points wouldn’t have crossed as bad had one (Tony) not been such a bitch about the biggest issue the other side had.
Secret identities are important. F^ck, we have the f^cking witness protection program *BECAUSE* it is a well known fact that when criminals know the details of ether a law enforcement agent’s life, or a key witness to a horrific or big crime goes to testify, the criminals will use their connections to have that person killed or worse, have their family ether slaughtered or tortured. All so they can ‘set an example’ for anyone who tries to stop them, or to destroy important evidence that could have shut them in the slammer for decades/life.
So we know that for f^cking witsec, yet the same f^cking mercy wasn’t being extended to the heroes who put their lives on the line DAILY?!?
That’s where Tony crossed the line. Had he conceded on that simple point, I bet a massive amount more of the heroes would have signed up then. That was their only concern, and Tony proved their point valid when he allowed Spider Man’s life to be destroyed.
@@Noriniatony was terribly out of character during civil war so that the heroes could fight
Holy, this was badass. Yes, We need more of this Thor. He humbled Ironman's ass XD And looking at the comic public date, is this before Disney bought Marvel? If so, no wonder this writing is good.
This was before the first iron man movie I think. So iron man was a dick and noone really liked him
@@MrHenhen5 he wasn't a dick. And movies have nothing to do with liking him in his comics, which are objectively better written than his movies ever were.
We sometimes forget that Thor is a God. Not what Disney/Marvel made him out to be.
Exactly! Thor is not some alien. He is a LITERAL God! The Norse God of storms, lightning, thunder, battle frenzy, oak trees, healing... and frogs, for some reason. He is all the power of the wild storms of the North Sea given physical form! His power makes giants tremble, renders other deities powerless, and could destroy entire civilizations if he so chose. The only reason he didn't reduce Tony to a bloody smear on the ground was because Cap wouldn't want it.
@@Gunganfan Thor even evoked Cap's spirit in order to make sure he wasn't doing anything Cap wouldn't want him to in his name. Didn't even argue
Awh MAN I'm so glad you covered this.
It fascinates me that Tony had Robert Reynolds on his payroll, but decided to not bring him.
It's pretty simple if Sentry participated in Civil War for any side he would fuck shit up real quicky he's simply to OP
Sentry is even more unstable than the Hulk. His mental illness often makes him a huge liability. He's only brought in when there's absolutely no other choice. It's like having Superman on your team but he's a severe Schizophrenic.
seriously??? just gunna forget about the void?
@@jakedonoghue3386 TRUE
Thor could accidentally break a planet if he doesn't hold back. Robert Reynolds can accidentally shatter the universe. Bringing him to fight Thor would like bringing a nuke that explodes whenever it feels like it to a knife fight.
Love the channel, even as someone who doesn't read a lot of super hero comics at all, but for some reason like 8 years ago I nabbed the first threw volumes of this series and it is one of my favorites.
That is the Thor we needed in mcu
I love how Thor put tony in his place.
Last frame was poetic justice because you can see the hand grip from Thor on Tony’s neck……
Some Feats of Thor:
1. Showed infinite strength on at least 3 occasions (one of them was Thor as a child)
2. His lightning is so incredibly powerful that it can hurt the Chaos King (which destroyed over 98% of the multiverse)
3. Survived the Godbomb which was designed to destroy and kill all godly pantheons in all the universe.
4. He is incredibly fast that he can react faster than the "speed of thought".
5. Thor has defeated a creature called "Demogorge, the God-Eater" which consumes gods and takes their powers. By the end, the Demogorge was as powerful as Eternity and Thor still managed to defeat him.
6. one Shotted Fully Feed Galactus and black winter back to back ( Black winter was entity who used to eat Marvel and DC universe for lunch ) And Galactus was his servant
7. Erased Existence of Mangog during fight even Odin used to fear mangog (Mangog possesses the strength, stamina, durability and endurance of a "billion billion beings", and has the ability to manipulate magic for energy projection and shapeshifting. The character appears to be indestructible, and has stated it will always exist so long as there is hatred)
8.Base Thor killed Void -Most Powerful form of Sentry on his command ( Even At base sentry Holds powers of million exploding suns )
9. Knocked out Phoenix Force not once but twice (cosmic entity, one of the oldest known, with all the power of life in the universe, past, present and future. It exists simultaneously )
10. Defeated 5 shadow Gods with a single blow ( Shadow Gods are Gods of Asgardian Gods who exist beyond the Multiverse even cosmic beings like infinity, eternity couldn't step foot where they exist )
11.Killed Glory who had powers of 10000 Gods including Powers of Gods like Zeus, Odin , Hercules, Etc
(I know this is an old video)
It is good to see Thor putting the arrogant Tony Stark in his place.
If you look closely, you’ll notice Tony had bruises around his neck, meaning Thor was strangling him *through* his suit.
We not gonna talk about the framed photo of Paul in the background, huh?
thor giving tony a reality check
I want this thor in the mcu
Thor: i see that in my absence, you have been busy...how do you mortals put it? "fornicating around?" well i think it is time that you finally "found out"...
tony: ...oh shi-
*full power thunder crash*
It's always good to see the evil versions of Tony get their shit kicked in.
Ayeeee that was Hurricane Katrina 🤟🏾 former New Orleans resident 😭
This is good but an important part you skipped was Thor telling Iron Man that while he was busy right then, they would "discuss" Tony's actions later.
This was one of my favorite comics.
I want to see this thor fight Superior iron man lmfao
“They say thou art a man of the future Stark... Thou have already constructed your metal coffin”
why? same result...a man, no matter how much armor he has on, vs a god.
@@30.06onaGrassyKnoll Probs cus we didn’t get the pleasure of seeing that arrogant bastard get put in his place. We only saw the aftermath of Thanos humbling him
@30.06 on a Grassy Knoll nah search up Superior Iron man its when he has that werid liquid sliver suit I just wonder how that fight would go because that Tony seemed a little more manic and had a really hard core God complex I don't want to give to much away because the comics he's in are really good definitely when daredevil gets involved.
I wonder what would've happened if Tony simply said, "I fucked up, and I'll face wathever punishment you believe I deserve"
Thor knows how prideful Tony is, I haven't seen a single soul on Marvel getting shocked when Tony says "sorry, I was wrong" not "we" not "close to being right" but just "I was wrong"
Tony did say he fucked up after civil war but also tony wasn’t himself during this event extremis was affecting his mind which is why he went off the rails
Thank you for telling this story i never new thor was dead and come back to life
An unequivocally bussing example of the fuck around and find out principle
Must be quite a shock, to realize your friend was actively allowing you to live every time you were together.
man thor should of been in civil war and do something like this too tony
I love this version of thor
Love it man!
The real Thor 💯💯💯 not the jackass MCU portraying Thor. THIS is a God-Tier being.
Marvel comic book writers: What if [Insert Superhero Name]... stopped holding back???
Marvel comic book nerds: *hngngggh* oops i need to change my pants again
This is awful lot like that abridged JLA skit where superman calls batman a bitch.
Why is it that like every superhero has a “when *blank* doesn’t hold back” storyline?
and this is why Thor wasn't around during civil war. only a handful of people can stand toe to toe with a serious fully powered Thor.
It still pisses me off that Tony got forgiven for all of his heinous bullshit by mind wiping himself.
Tony’s mind was being affected by extremis that’s why he was doing villainous shit during civil war I guess that means every hero who’s been mind controlled doesn’t deserve forgiveness
Anymore Thor going ham videos?
After the fight Tony’s suit was destroyed and asked Thor how he was to suppose to get home, Thor just said “Walk.”
Can’t believe writers would even have Tony challenge Thor as if he were ever a match
Civil War was harsh to read for me. I’m a huge hulk fan and they did him dirty way early on. I was not a fan of Thor because I thought he was silly or an insult to actual Norse Myth… but when I saw this issue, I was floored by Thor’s righteous anger and amazed that he put the fear of Gods into Tony Stark.
I’ve been a Hulk and Thor fan ever since.
I like how his neck is brused where Thor grabbed him through the armor.
imagine while you're dead one of your "friends" clones you and has that clone kill another one of your friends,
the whole Ragnarök clone killing black goliath thing has to be one of the worst things tony ever did
When Tony Stark and Reed Richards put their heads together I guess it's hell on Earth when they create an indestructible Android
“You’re a tin man in a lightning storm.”
Why do I keep seeing Zero put out a video on a comic and then you put one out on the same comic almost right after
who?
@@30.06onaGrassyKnoll another comic book narrator channel, I've just been noticing that mullet man has been following the same comics zero does but a day later and find that weird
this one has the exact same title as the zero video as well. coincidence is a possible cause, but idk. i can the difficulty of making comic related content, as there are a lot of books out there that aren't interesting enough to make a whole video about, and the sheer volume of books makes it difficult to sift through and find ones that actually are worth making a video about. that being said, it's not cool to farm views by copying someone else's content. i think this has been happening a lot in the realm of comic-related content on youtube. the same like 15 stories get circlejerked by every channel until the story becomes stale. there's obviously a limited amount of good stories out there, so to some extent there's going to be overlap, but it's not honorable to just see what other channels that are like yours are doing and then copying them. i'm saying this with good faith, as i believe mullet man has good intentions and is a decent guy, i just want him to take a step back and look away from the numbers for a while. people love bite sized stories that are super off-the-wall and defy average expectations, but the well will eventually run dry.
Characters like Thor and another all powerful example of Celestial grade Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII (no matter which timeline but especially the newer stuff) are so woefully nerfed when in true raw power this would be the real end result.
Could call it a self nerf so they don't AOE their allies to death along with their enemies. XD The sucky thing about being that powerful is you have a really big hammer and many nails, some of which you don't want to hammer accidentally.
1:49 Iron Man did a Kamehameha against Thor. 😮😮
And just like Z Broly, he tanked it without a scratch.
tony a mere mortal in fancy suit of armor, thinks he can actually fight a god.
"laser blast that has infinitely more power in than a human does nothing. superhero: well punching it is then"
One of these days all the writers should get together and make a comic run with all the heroes fighting each other to the death. Some bs item will bring them back of course, but no holding back and a definitive answer of their level. This yo-yo of power levels aggravates me
Not Texas, Oklahoma. Seriously, did you just read the sparks notes and assume all the "fly over" middle states are Texas?