When You Hurt Aunt May - Spider-Man Fights For Real
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The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #542
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This isn't a fight.
That implies Kingpin even stood a chance.
Aunt May:"My god ,you killed him ,son !"
Exactly, Kingpin is a regular guy, I mean yeah he's big and stronger than most of the non-super powered people, but that's it. He has no powers, so even if he's strongman contest level of peak human strength that's still nothing compared to Spider-Man.
Well kingpin folds spidey 99% of the time they fight lmao,This is one of the few times spidey has won
@@Mephiles343 You do realize Spidey is constantly watching how hard he hits right? If he didn't he would have several body counts and most of them would be from a single punch.
@@craigpearcey8644 yes,While i get that,There's also been multiple times kingpin and spidey have gone at it,And spiderman stated himself he was going all out,And Kingpin still fuckin floored him,Kingpin wins way more than he loses against spidey
Daredevil's description of Spiderman: "I can hear his muscles tighten, coiled with incredible strength and control. He's pure power and doesn't even know it. The best of us."
Problem is, I think Daredevil got it wrong. Peter knows, and every day he has to keep the kiddy gloves on so he doesn't 86 a thug by accident.
@@1Synner i think he means he doesn't know his full power still
Man, that really makes me want to see a moment where Spiderman literally doesn't HAVE to hold back. like at all. like that superman moment in justice league 'what we have here is a rare moment for me to cut loose' I feel like that would be a huge wakeup call to pretty much everyone in the marvel universe.
@@DBfan106 he did against morlun and died
@@ebygz4755 to be fair, Morlun is near immortal god made to kill spider people. Kind of not fair.
A key word of advice to any aspiring supervillains out there.
If Spider-Man ever shows up to fight you and he’s not making any jokes, _RUN FOR YOUR F!CKING LIFE._
You won't escape, you'll only be tired
Unless you are Quicksilver you can't runout him, Spidey goes to the speed of 100km/h and maybe even more
@@justdem1490 peter slapped quicksilver in the face when quicksilver was bloodlusted. He ran at peter full speed and peter just slapped him
@@darrylisaac9400 .....Spider-sense *Slap!* That people, is what we call in this marvelous universe a bitchslap at Mach 3.
There was a joke comic strip about this actually! 😂
When he showed to stop a bit of his villains, his new ones were like "what's wrong? No quips? No jokes?", and Mysterio, the only classic villain there, just said "OH GOD NO" and handed himself in, shaking in fear. And the funny part is, Spidey wasn't even serious or angry, he just couldn't talk because he had laryngitis 😂🤣
The guy can lift a building, a plane, and a cruise ship.
People underestimate him because he prefers jumping around and being tactical, but he’s definitely no pushover.
By building you mean a public toilet.
By plane you mean a dodo plane.
By cruise ship you mean a bass boat.
@@alissa6 he can lift 10 tons...
@@pix3188 He can lift more than that. But his shifty fanboys exaggerate him into overdrive.
@@pix3188 He can lift about 20-25. Sometimes he lifts above that but only when he is full of adrenaline or plot juice.
He's not Superman he can only lift a certain amount of things he can't lift everything
It’s like how that quote went,
*”There are three things all men fear, the sea in a storm, a night with no moon, and the wrath of a gentle man…”*
Powerful words. Clearly some dont understand them sadly.
Demons run when a good man goes to war that’s one too
@@quinnbaygo2112 you lack wisdom.
Patrick rothfuss, name of the wind
Amen.
People tend to forget how much Spiderman holds back. The few versions of him that don't are absolute threats and the version of him that became an assassin is feared.
My favorite of which is Punisher Spider man
I thoroughly enjoy the assassin Spiderman that trained with Logan and honed his Spider sense to the point of him just "knowing things"
@@turdferguson5932 yeah i also love that one, sadly that version die in the spiderggedon and that is something i just dont undertand ;;__;; he was supose to be one of the strongest spiderman but those fucking vampires kill him ;;__;;
Superior spider-man is a prime example
Why?Guy literally punches Scorpions jaw off
He beats bkack cat without hesitation
Beats all the sinister 6bin less than 5 minutes
Doesn't hold back and always is the superior spidey
Oh and he always beat up logan(the wolverine)
He kicked FireLord's (Galactus' herald's) ass.
2:42. Not going to lie, that part actually gave me goosebumps.
"Spiderman isn’t here to kill you. Spiderman doesn't kill. But right now... at this moment... spiderman isn’t here... I AM..."
Peter Parker is here to kill
Bond with bully Maguire
He was showing Fisk that he didn't want people to see Spider-Man kill anyone. But Peter Parker?
Step right up and get your ticket to see the show.
Why put that in quotation marks if that's not exactly what he said? 🤔🤔
@@joescwayze8876 to imply that it's not me speaking
@@ericknudsen98 But those aren't his exact words. Therefore there's no need the quotations, good sir. 😂😂😂
When Spiderman stops laughing
When Superman snarls
When Batman laughs
When Hulk doesn't roar
It means the humanity in the saviors has left the building
when the wolverine aka "weapon X" is unleashed
If I ever see Batman laughing even if he’s not fighting me I’m boutta become the next Quicksilver bro
When flash stops smiling that's your que to start praying
@@arturocastroverde3349 you're missing the point here dude, he meant "when the heroes do something they wouldn't do/stop doing what they do" aka Batman laughing or Spiderman getting serious, what you said it's like saying "Ohh I get, it's like when the Martian Manhunter enters the building B)" no you dummy, it's like when, idk, Captain America doesn't care about the laws or what cross said here about flash
@@lmn_godie2598 dummy you
Spider-Man: "I'm not here to kill you"
Peter Parker: "I am"
Kingpin: *endless amount of fear starts running in veins*
Ooooh that makes sense.. okay I was confused for a second.
I think this was basically him saying that if he ever has to show his actual face to Kingpin ever again, it would be the last thing that Kingpin ever sees.
I know kingpin was shook by Peter being so angry he was willing to show his face in front of hundreds
@@Tallzom it was also a warning.
More like "shock and terror!"
Kingpin: "Say something damn you!"
Peter basically: "Your life is a privilege that I've allowed, and I wish to remind you that it is one I can revoke."
Kingpin: "Did I fuck up? I think I might've fucked up."
basically this whole scene
Maybe go back to not talking lol 😰
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣 well done!
i am stealing this commet for a book XD it's perfict.
"At the end of the day, you're just a fat man with an attitude... a balloon just waiting for someone to stick a needle in it. And me?
*I'm the needle* "
Damn that goes deep
That gave me dark Knight returns vibes
When batman beats the shit out of the mutant gang leader
"This isn't a mudhole"
"It's an operating table"
"And I'm the surgeon"
Just like a needle!
Rape time
Damn!
That gave me goosebumps legit. That is about the ice coldest shit I'll hear for a month. Bobby Drake's powers are NOTHING next to that absolute Black Air Force oration.
Funny part is, he's STILL holding back
Just not as much, especially to make a point. It was enough for Fisk to indirectly ask peter to kill him to end the relatively brutal beating.
Only to be denied that swift death, killing somebody is giving them a cheap way out.
Thus the saying “fate worse than death”
Lol no he’s not. He’s out to Kill this time but the comic doesn’t portray his true strength here completely!
@@Gadget-Walkmen nope, he's not killing him yet, Peter said that himself. In one of "what if" comics Fisk's sniper shots mary jane dead instead of injuring aunt may. Peter goes and immediately kills that sniper. Then he goes after kingpin and oneshots him with a single punch through his chest. Oh, and before that he defeated iron man is seconds. Bloodlusted spiderman is a menace
@@morganf.1562 lol him defeating iron man is pure nonsense as their not even close to the same power and age range at all.
You can’t believe something just because it was written down, it’s nonsensical completely if you think he could actually “defeat iron man in seconds”.
Obviously Spider-Man is ultimately stronger than kingpin since he can lift up a whole building on top of him and other feats of strength but for some of the others like that iron man feat, lol just no.
@@Gadget-Walkmen true but it happened.
Love the look on the inmates, the reality set in, they hate Pete for putting them away, but after this they’re just relieved he showed mercy.
ikr. They think that if they know a superhero's identity that can control, threaten, or kill them. I'm like bruh. Knowing their secret identity is going to be more dangerous for the criminal.
It like the bad guy that know superman i identity knowing it doesn't many won't kill them if they hurt his family
@@orlandobritt1460 Like it's funny that they think knowing their secret is supposed to scare them. Superman can locate you 5 lightyears away before you can blink and you think it is a good idea to hurt his family
@@cgamejewels Not marvel but it can relate to this. I remember in Young Justice the super villains actually know most of the hero’s secret identities and loved ones. But they specifically don’t target them knowing the fall out would be the total annihilation of both sides.
With some it can be leverage, but it can also mean that the hero maight go, "Fuck it" and fucking hunt you down to kill you or the bare minimum leave you as a potus for the rest of your life. Ask DC injustice universe what happened when Lois was killed, even if not for knowing the secret identity, fucking a hero up is the worst idea.
When he said "I'm the needle" I was expecting him to literally PUNCH through Fisk like a literal balloon
He actually did in a What If ending to this scenario
Like Omniman through Immortal
Superman did this to Joker... And all got worse after that. A fallen hero is really scary.
@@Slimdaniel That is a comic trope I really despise. That there is no middle ground. That they can't kill the joker without becoming some sort of fascist brute. Sometimes the really evil person is the one who keeps giving the psychopath chance after chance while he runs up a body count in the thousands.
@@Slimdaniel Spidey doing it to Kingpin ends with him TURNING HIMSELF IN. He hadn't abandoned the Great Responsibility.
Spidey’s always been on par with the Avengers, if not surpassing them. He’s smart enough to beat Juggernaut and strong enough to stop an out-of-control train.
He might not have invulnerability like Superman or regeneration like Wolverine but he takes those hits so he doesn’t have to kill the criminals he’s apprehending.
I mean he has levels of them just to a smaller to degree
@@garlicamvs6235 that's a good point. The fact that he is as strong as he is does give him what would seem like invulnerability to us due to the density of his muscles. A good comparison is our strength in comparison to an animal. Chimps for instance are several times stronger than humans and when they attack us they tank our blows and even knife stabs to a degree. Spiderman is several times stronger than a chimp so his muscle density would give him some serious durability.
Also, I believe he heals broken bones after getting a few nights sleep. May not be Wolverine level, but I would gladly take that with his power set over Wolverines.
he definitely can’t beat thor or the hulk tho
@@m.b.62 he has beaten the Hulk in the past
@@jrtien and the hulk has beaten spider-man as well
This is honestly more terrifying than Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker attacking Sandman. There's no screaming, no signs of grief, barely any words spoken at all. Nothing but a cold and calculating hatred, backed by speed and strength powerful enough to kill most people without even breaking a sweat. Spider-man has left the building, Peter Parker will see you now...
@M Billa Didn't say that it wasn't justified anger, just that it would be terrifying to witness.
Peter: "Give your heart to God because your ass is mine!"
Bully Maguire is always Superior.
@@georgejoestarii9469 He does have better dance moves :)
cuz all he has in his mind is to fuck up kingpin and kill him in the worst way possible. even sadness and hatred is a sign of emotion made from of happiness, love, and what makes peter a good person. this peter parker has only blood lust.
People really don’t get how merciful Spider-Man is. When Doc Ock took control of Peter’s body and fought Scorpion, he punched his jaw clean off because he didn’t know his own strength. Villains and common thugs should be thankful that Peter Parker grew up in a loving home with parent figures who instilled good values in him
I love the Fact Fiend episode on the Scorpion about his jaw punched off by Superior Spiderman where they explained Doc Ock only then realized that Peter always held back his full strength in their fights because Parker could literally killed any of the villains if he just tried.
With great power comes great responsibility
Nah fuck spider man.
@Zenman Alex This has nothing to do with my skin color.
I dunno my guy, I for one have heard the scorpion jaw breaker feet at nauseam.
People don’t realize how truly terrifying Spider-Man can be if he isn’t holding back and joking around. The dude can literally tear you in half if he wanted to, he just chooses not to
I mean, Otto didn't realise that either when he punched a jaw off of someone as Superior Spider
I recall one comic where Spider man wasnt joking or wise cracking and EVERY single villain was terrified. They know what it means when he is silent. But it turns out Spider man had laryngitis and so really cant speak. But it speaks volumes that his silence is a warning sign.
People see him as a joke cause his jokes he cracks and how long it'll take to beat up a bad guy but if he rlly tried and wanted he could kill everyone like everyone in the universe he in. He smart and strong enough. Just not the cosmic beings
@@itzangel_yt40 He wouldn't win Thor for example
@@Jack_Mercer not just anyone. He punched scorpions jaw off, like that takes some power
Keep in mind everyone, despite the brutality of this beating, despite how angry he is, he's still holding back, and they all know it.
Yeah their are Spidermen who don't hold back like Kaine Parker Scarlet Spider or Superior Spiderman who would kill Kingpin in one punch.
Turning Fisk into a smear on the ceiling would be ... Insufficient.
@@benhughes9838exactly. Everyone saw him get beat up. He lost, and therefore respect to him was lost.
Wait he was still holding back?
@@MunachimsoNwadinobi yeah, if he wanted to he could turn Kingpin into paste, despite his size, the man is just a normal human, Spider-Man has to hold back, cause if he doesn't, the normal human criminals just straight up die, and that's just not the kind of person he is. Sure, on occasion he has to deal with an actual super powered villain, but most of the time it's just an ordinary man or woman in a power suit, and once that suit is gone, one punch is all it would take to turn them into a chunky tomato paste
Why isn't anyone talking about how Peter is literally GRIPPING king pins skin and LIFTING HIM LIKE HE'S HOLDING A SHIRT?!!
Because it *hurts to think about.*
he's got that tiddy twister on mega mode
Because saying it doesn't give it justice. It makes you realize the grip strength spidey has. Hes tearing through his skin just to be able to do that, it's absolutely as painful as it seems😊
A guy like kingpin deserves every ounce of pain.
If he wanted to, he could probably use his ability to stick to things to stick his hand to Kingpin's skin, then rip it off his body.
“I’m not here to kill you. *_I_* am.”
The fact that he says that and takes off his mask and shirt shows how serious Peter Parker is, and if you EVER touch Aunt May or MJ, may god have mercy on your soul because Peter won’t.
Might be the most badass line I've ever heard Spider-man say
Yeah he was ready to end the man!
Peter pretty much said, "May God have mercy in my stead" and I never want to hear that from Spider-Man... for the sake of survival.
[Goku enters the chat]
@@sycscammycat5436 [Goku has disconnected from life]
I like when villians say Spider Man is weak when in reality he is holding back so you can redeem yourself and be a better person.
Like when atheists bitch and say "Why does God allow evil if he's so good??" Same reason. (See parents? Comics do teach good moral lessons.)
@@nunyabidness5375 there’s a difference though. Spider man can’t prevent evil as he’s not all powerful, he can only try to help stop it. God could end it if the god you’re referring to is all powerful. Could make it so evil action wasn’t a possible thought in the mind of humans. Then again good and evil is up to perception and POV. Who knows what is truly right in the eyes of a god? Not saying you’re wrong, just saying you’re comparing apples to oranges. Yeah they’re both fruit but they’re not the same
@@konodioda3283 Well my point is the more power you have, the more you need to restrain it; Superman pulls HIS punches even more than Spider-Man, so scale that up to omnipotence and...?
Also, if God did that there'd be no point in sentient life existing. We'd be automata or rocks.
And the biblical dogma at least is that he wants children who take after him and want the things he wants because they are good things, not slaves. Also in principle it is impossible to conceive of good without conceiving of its opposite.
Not proselytizing here, mind you, just making observations.
@@konodioda3283
Ah, you again. You just said true happiness lies in heaven if I remember correctly. You said it to your priest friend.
@@nunyabidness5375 God isn't "restraining" he's not present whatsoever
"There are 3 things all wise men fear: a night with no moon, the sea in storm, and the rage of a gentle man!" - Patrick Rothfuss
Thanks for reminding me about this quote. Been looking for a good line like this for a while.
Kid you not. I say this all the time. I actually created my own super hero with this quote in mind. It embodies him completely.
The Batman who laughs is pretty menacing right but the Spider-Man who doesn’t make a wisecrack or joke or says nothing at all is just straight up terrifying
The Batman Who Laughs is basically Green Goblin. A rich psychopath who is willing to do anything necessary not just to kill, but to HURT.
This wasn't about beating Fisk... Peter had to break him.
Not just physically, but in front of all of Kingpin's peers, breaking him so severely that *no one* ever thinks to go after Peter's family again. The point, "you never, ever want to push me this far."
yeah. Funny how even in this situation Peter isn't going all out, cuz if he did he would kill Fisk with one punch
Well, judging from the expressions of the crowd of goons, even they are shocked by the beating Peter is handing out to Fisk with just an open handed slap. I don't think Petey needs to worry about anything 'in the joint'.
Two messages sent. Peter is too powerful to be stopped by a prison cell if you dare go after him via his family. 2nd Wilson is fair game to anyone but if you kill him, Parker might come after you for denying him what is his. Vengance. Plus unless he's wearing the symbiote OE this is ultimates universe, he was not wearing webshooters. Mainline marvel parker does not havenirganic shooters.
@@Ozzy_2014 No this was 616 verse, the events just before BND in fact. Shortly after Civil War (The first) Iron Man made Peter reveal his identity then Peter switched sides. Kingpin had a Assassin take a shot at MJ but Aunt May got hit instead.
This was the end result of that. The thing is that the threat works even without biological web shooters on Peter because most people don't know Peters Web Shooters are machines and not powers
@@Ozzy_2014 This is the cloth reproduction of the black costume, not the symbiote. There was a period during the J Michael Straczynski run in the main 616 universe where Peter was reengineered by a villain whose running theme was arachnid/insect genetic manipulation, and then further began developing his connection to the Spider Totem (which gave him a broad array of powers out of nowhere, like stingers with a paralytic venom). During that period, he actually DID have organic webshooters in his forearms.
Kingpin: (40 years later on a hospital bed)
Peter: (pull the plug) today is the day
Lmao
😂
He played the long game like a fuckin pro
The future is now old man
Fr. Kingpin probably went on to commit some crimes and kill a few people the next day, I hate when superheroes go all" Batman" and spare villains who clearly must die and will destroy other lives by the minute if left to their own devices
I remember seeing a Marvel poster, with tons upon tons of heroes lined up together, and right at the front was Spider-Man. Someone commented: “I love how they put Spider-Man at the front, like he could even do jack shit”
That person definitely didn’t understand how powerful Spider-Man is… I tried to convince them, they just wouldn’t believe me
It made me slightly angry
He may not be hulk level power house but being able to lift 10 tons or more? With his speed and agillty? He could turn most of his villians into paste if he went for the kill no problem
man spider man already held a building, train and ship and they still say he's weak or just a clown gets angry when people comment or say like that
@Oni 100 tons? If true that's insane though probably depends on the writer, and I knew he fought the hulk mad props to our favourite wall crawler cause unlike other super heroes that fought hulk he isn't a god or has some op healing factor
Spider man is marvel.. he is the platform for the fantastic four the punisher, daredevil, even Deadpool and many others. Lol don't be mad just laugh too yourself about what they don't know
@@nekohallowking4762 100 Tons was due to the Other enhancement and I wouldn't be surprised if Kaine couldn't do the same since he now has it. Peter could easily kill most of his rogues by himself if he actually snapped at his best. The only exceptions to that would be the Symbiotes and maybe a couple others.
I remember when Doc Ock took over Peter's body. In his first ever fight with Scorpion, he punched Scorpion's jaw off with tremendous ease.
It was at that moment that Otto had a revelation. Peter had been holding back each and every time. He realized Peter had shown everyone mercy when they didn't deserve it. Otto had gained an immense amount of respect for Peter in that moment.
Doctor octopus actually knew Spidey held back once he swapped bodies and realises how Spidey could had killed him one hit itself if he wanted to. But it was when he punched scorpion and unintentionally ripped off the jaw with one punch, he really realised the actual power. Even Thor and Hulk themselves were surprised when they together held hands of Spiderman with Thor saying "he is too strong for a mortal". And comics Thor is way more stronger than MCU Thor and yet he felt it.
This sounds so familiar. Can you let me know which comic this is?
@@Pops_Gambit
Superior Spider Man.
People underestimate not only his strength, but his speed, agility, reflex, spider sense and experience. If he let go he would be almost untouchable. Can you imagine him as a villain?
read Spider-Punisher or Assassin Spider-man you'll be surprised on how terrifyingly efficient spiderman if he goes all out.
@@ashwolf2006 I was just about to bring those up as well. 616 spidey, even as Superior Spider-Man, are nowhere near as dangerous or merciless as those two. Only way to take out someone as OP as assassin spider, with his even more broken spider sense is via plot.
@@ashwolf2006 I used to be scared of Peter whenever I was reading those comics, it’s generally terrifying
I wonder if he also inherited a spider's ability to die in seconds when exposed to Raid.
@@adamb89 hyukyukyuk
Peter is a lot like Clark. He is almost constantly holding back and people forget that he can literally punch engine blocks to death.
@@1973Ganesh and?
Spiderman and Superman vs. Ms. Marvel(Carol Danvers) and Captain Marvel(William "Billy" Batson) would be a fight that I want to see.
@@1973Ganesh lol you are not wrong.
@@1973Ganesh so ? Everyone does. Its comics.
@@1973Ganesh it's comics bro, let's just appreciate what these characters stand for
Kingpin found out too late that Aunt May is the one big red button in Spider-Man's soul you absolutely NEVER push. If May had actually been killed, Kingpin's destruction would've been the stuff of legend. (Bear in mind I'm using the term _destruction_ here, not "death." Peter wouldn't have simply killed Kingpin. That implies he would've left a body behind for them to bury.)
Nonsense. Push the "Aunt May" button. That way, when Peter Parker (not Spider-Man) beats your ass to the point that you want to die, you'll know why.
Fisk forgets that Daredevil is not super strong...and HE beats Fisk. He forgot that he exists because other superheroes have better things to do than fight a common criminal. Oops. Don't piss off a super strong, super fast dude
God so many times where kingpin goes to far and daredevil nearly kills him and someone has to stop him....
Its scary how easy he made this look.
At 1:25 he hit Kingpin with a series of "Serious punches".
It's because it is. It is VERY well noted in the spiderman series that he ALWAYS has to hold back. He punches holes through steel like it's nothing ffs.
Most people don't realize just how powerful Spider man actually is. He restrains himself so much, even against other super powdered individuals. He's lifted hundreds of tons, can react to and dodge bullets, and is amazingly agile. Against normal people, a punch throw a little too hard could easily kill them. Against kingpin, he could have killed him whenever he would have wanted.
@@royceatkinson He's a street level powerhouse. He may actually be a little over powered for street level. I remember a comic where Spiderman once raged out on The Hulk, he bloodied and broke his hands on The Hulk's face and body but he got The Hulk to chill out 😂.
@@ryuken338 He's the absolute high end of what can be considered street level.
Nowadays I love how Spider-Mans reputation of being a wise cracking jokester has gotten to the point where villains immediately know something is wrong when he stops talking and even become terrified because of that alone as shown when a group of villains fought him while he was sick and lost his voice or something like that where it was difficult for him to talk and they were just absolutely concerned for themselves
God I remember that one! Pretty sure it was Mysterio who's response was basically 'oh no' or something right?
@@DBfan106do you know which comic this is?
@@JoeFanik Yes. one where it's not for a joke like the one I mentioned. in the joke comic I was talking about Spiderman was quiet because he had laryngitis. it was a joke. can't remember the name of this one for some reason, it takes place shortly after the first (and only real) superhero civil war where Spiderman revealed his identity to the world, but when he defected tony stark (like the piece of shit he is) didn't protect the people who would be effected by super heroes revealing their identities.
@@JoeFanik hope I'm not too late but its
The Amazing SpiderMan Annual " The Quiet Room " short story
There was once a Herald of Galactus named Firelord. He came to destroy Earth and Spiderman couldn't find anyone to help stop him. All of the Avengers were busy offworld and the other superhero groups were much the same as were the X-men. He ran from Firelord for almost the entire comic, but finally he was cornered and it was there that Firelord learned his mistake. Spiderman is much like Superman in that he is afraid to really let go and put his whole strength into a fight for fear of killing his opponent. He let loose on Firelord and absolutely destroyed him. 😵🤕 Fisk got a small taste of it here, but it could have been much much worse.🤬
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I often forget that Peter is a lot like clark
The only reason why they lose is because they're moral, they're always Holding back
and with both characters, when they lose that moral compass they become absolute terrors to face
Not my quote, just something I reed somewhere, If you take the morals of a bad man you create a villain, if you take the morals of a good man you create a monster.
@@mauriciolacerda7458 That's a terrifying quote to think about.
that last line is fantastic. It's the perfect set up. Peter proves to Fisk he can and will kill him anytime he wants, only to pull back and let him know that he dies when he says he dies. Fisk will have to spend the rest of his life wondering if today's the day, living in constant fear, and knowing he lacks the power to do anything about it.
It's the best revenge he could ever get on him.
If the One More Day event didn't happen and Aunt May actually died from fatal wounds...then Fisk would've been game over then and there
and he was humiliated in front of his allies. He is spiderman´s bitch
You’re totally right, Spider Man really did just put the knowledge that Fisk literally is just a fat man and Spider Man controls when he dies
It's still dumb. Kingpin isn't the type to accept a vicious beating as a warning.
Honestly they left out the best part of the speech where tells Fisk he is leaving him alive because everyone here just saw him get beat so they won’t be afraid of him anymore and thats a better punishment than a quick death.
He actually made "strip naked to assert dominance" look surprisingly hardcore.
He should've stripped Kingpin Naked to assert even more dominance. Maybe he did, haven't actually read this comic.
Looking like a dark souls invader ready to beat me to a pulp bare handed
@@imbatman2319 i dont like where that is going
@@jurivjerdha2467 hehe 😌😏 aint no fun if the homies cant have none
@@imbatman2319 NO
Superman and Spider-Man are the nicest and kindest heroes most of the time but if you hurt their loved ones be prepared to suffer
Darkseid one shotted an amped bloodlusted Superman
Mongul casually handled a bloodlusted Superman
Doomsday nearly killed a non holding back Superman in rebirth
@@user-mw3li3tr7r and? All those characters are incredibly op
@@user-mw3li3tr7r A bloodlusted Superman destroyed Darkseid and blackmailed him.
A holding back Superman manhandled doomsday and was unfazed by his punches.
@@thehopefuljudge8671 Doomsday became sentient read the panel
Superman beats Darkseid because of plot Darkseid is supposed to be equal to high father and Darkseid one shotted an amped bloodlusted Superman before
@@user-mw3li3tr7r that same sentient doomsday Mollywhopped the freaking Martian Manhunter.
You guys REALLY need to stop complains about Superman beating Darkseid. These two characters have been enemies damn near since Darkseids creation. That and there is Ana entire narrative surrounding those two fighting.
0:37 I LOVE how Fisk's smile drops when Spider-Man doesn't respond. Sure, he brings it back as he keeps monologing, but he knows he's screwed, even if he can't consciously accept it.
One of my favorite details of this version of this moment. The moment Fisk accepts he’s not walking away from this without harm when he screams “SAY SOMETHING!!”
Peter showing kingpin why he should stay a daredevil villain 😂
There's something extremely powerful about the line "I'm not here to kill you. I am." Not just fearing the wrath of a gentle giant. Some of these characters become indistinguishable from their hero life, sometimes completely abandoning their civilian life. Not Peter Parker, there's always a distinction between him and Spider-Man. For that reason, taking off his mask becomes much more personal. We're always reminded he's just a guy from New York, struggling through daily life, trying to earn money, cracking jokes, being a hero, maintaining relationships. He's one of the most human heroes and that's one reason I think he's one of the most beloved. Sure, others can take up the mantle, but Peter Parker, he's the original everyone knows.
My boy toby
@@DiegoGarcia-cg8gr Stings, doesn't it?
@@Kevinopilous it does
Wise men fear 3 things:
A sea in storm;
A night with no moon;
And the anger of a gentle man
Yessss. Spider Man is Peter acting as his own ideal, it's him at his best self making the most benevolent decisions because he knows Spider-Man represents more than just Peter as the individual. But he takes off the mask, because this fight has nothing to do with spider man. You shot the elderly aunt of one of the area's strongest and most resilient known mutants, this is just Peter beating the shit out of a guy, no code, no quips, no appeal to morality or empathy or hope for the future. You shot Peter's Mom. The only reason you shouldn't be dead is because it would disappoint her.
Fun Fact: Kingpin hasn't appeared in a Spiderman comic since this beat down. Spiderman legit scared a villain from his rogues gallery into noping out of his series
That's awesome.
didn't he appear during the whole black cat becoming kingpin saga?
@@qibcentricsplayground2043 not as the main villain.
I don't remember him fighting Spidey directly during Spencer's run.
Maybe Fisk has forgotten Peter's secret identity. But I doubt he forgot this beating.
Showed up during Superior, faking his death because Superior was going after his ass and toppled his little empire in Shadowland.
The more unsettling part, at least for me, is the environment of this massacre: a group consisting of hardened scumbags (“thugs, rapists, murderers”), most of whom Spider-Man possibly played a role in sending to prison, look in absolute horror of what PETER PARKER is capable of.
And the video cut out the best part after this moment. After savagely beating Fisk, even threatening to come back and finish the job if May doesn’t pull through, Peter mentions he’s sparing Fisk so he’s aware that everyone who saw what happened will tell others about this humiliation. “And their friends will tell their friends, and so on…”
If there’s anything Kingpin hates most, it’s embarrassment. Like Peter put it: Kingpin is “a fat man with an attitude”.
Gentle giants, angels, heroes. Something about when they unleash their rage and discard all mercy is so compelling. They become something that makes even Hell's demons tremble.
It’s the conversion. If something is always evil, it doesn’t make an impact if it becomes more evil and vice versa. But when someone truly kind suddenly becomes pure evil, it has a powerful impact on anyone who witnesses it. I’m not sure of the science(or lack there of), but when something converts into something completely different, it tends to become great, meaning that when a good person becomes wrathful, they become even more enraged than someone who is normally angry.
@@MrShisuto It's like when you piss off a sith lord, you fear for your life
When you piss off a jedi master, you fear for your soul. You managed to overtax their near limitless capacity for good, and now their only option left is to release all the malice and hatred they have fought back for their entire life, and now you will pay the consequence for it.
There's a reason why the saying "A wise man fears three things. A storm at sea, a moonless night, and the anger of a gentle man." is 100% true. If you've managed to break down all of their restraint and get them actually angry with you, it's over. They're done fucking around and are actually trying to fucking kill you.
There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.
There's a reason why the saying "Demons run when a good man goes to war" was made, and why it feels so accurate. This comic is a damn good example of this.
Spiderman is the most restrained person in (Marvel)Comics. If he ever stopped, he would have more bodies in his wake than even Carnage has kills. It's frightening how menacing Peter is in this scene. You can't even call this a fight with how one sided it is.
Super Man is the most restrained in terms of good guys in comics.
Imo I think it's Superman. I mean the dude can probably tear landforms and continents apart in battle alone, but he doesn't because he knows how that would hurt the others around him. Yes Spiderman holds back, but he's not destroying skyscrapers, cities, etc even in his full strength.
@@RIPLinkTTV Upon review I added the addendum to my earlier statement lol
@@javierloera2624 depends on the Spider-Man we're talking about. But yeah, the strength between a beefed up human vs a Kryptonian is astronomical. Spider-Man wouldn't come close to Super Man
@@demod2080 👌. In Marvel, I would have to agree since he can punch holes through steel like it's butter
Spiderman can literally dismember people this isn't him bloodlusted at all just very livid 👍💯
True, he's still holding his punches. On Batman mode, not Punisher......
He can lift 10 tons. :P
@@Tephlonb just imagine he go Omni man mode on enemies, not holding back.
@@Tephlonb peter once supported a falling building, easily 50 tons
@@XChristmasManX the daily bugle and I'm pretty sure well over 50 tons
Peter also backhanded Wolverine through a window at Stark tower. A window meant to stop F-16 level missiles and he sent Wolverine through it like he was fired out of a cannon. It's not just that he has immense strength, his rate of acceleration, reaction time, and durability allows him to swat away enemies and things that are massive or moving at superhuman levels of speed. He was just playing with Fisk, like someone hitting a pillow.
Um no way Spider-Man backhanded wolverine through a window😆
Stark: "Jarvis, get my money back."
Spiderman: "im not gonna kill you"
*Peter: "I am"*
*me: takes a step back*
God: "Sucks to be you."
"If your going to kill me, get it over with"
"Oh, I will, I said i was going to kill you and I am"
"But I didn't say it's going to do it today."
Damn, Not even Batman could threaten someone that hard
If Batman went lethal, he'd be worse than Spiderman. Spiderman would probably get in close and you'd know you have F'd up. Batman, you only see him if he allows it. All that money, a genius intellect, and access to pharmaceuticals? Tasteless, odorless, fast acting, and completely untraceable poisons that break down faster than they can be analyzed, and make it look like natural causes. If you know he's after you, it's just a matter of when he decides it's your time to go. And that depends on how much he wants you to suffer. Do you have a week, or a month, or did your glass of water have something in it that leaves you with all of three minutes of agonizing pain to live through?
Spiderman can be stopped by other heroes, especially by someone like Professor X (a literal thought telling Peter to fall asleep, and down he goes). All Batman has to do is not let the others know he's gone lethal and throw them off the scent, something he's very capable of doing. And he knows, and has, what the others are weak to, so he might be stopped, but how many of the others would fall just to capture him?
TL;DR: If Batman threatens to end your life, make peace with whatever gods will listen, because you've got as much as Batman chooses to allow you.
@@lordgenerias Yup. In fact I would go even further and say: If Batman *really* wanted to end you, he would not threaten you (not his style). You would just one day wake up dead🪦🤷
@@ChineduOpara That's why he's the most dangerous member of the League. If he wanted to, he could kill anyone and not leave even trace evidence. Even Superman might not be able to find anything to tie Batman to it.
@@lordgenerias ...and even if he did, let's be honest, Main Universe Superman would not have the _cojones_ to try and bring Batman in 😁
@@ChineduOpara best chance Supes would have is breaking Batman's back in exactly the right place to make him quadriplegic. And even then, he'd need Flash to disarm the batsuit of any traps.
"I said I was going to kill you, and I am. But I didn't say it was going to be today."
That line gives me chills. It's a truly terrifying threat, Peter declaring he can kill Fisk any time he wants, saying he doesn't even need to do it now when Fisk is weakened like this.
The context changes it a bit, he says the moment Aunt May's heart stops beating Fisk dies. So he tells him to pray to God that his Aunt keeps living
The point of it is that he isn't just threatening it, or even promising it. He just proved (to an audience too) that while Kingpin is strong, he is but an ant next to Spiderman. If he wants you dead, you are going to die. Being informed his life is now tied to May Parker's, whom Fisk had shot... That's the icing on the cake.
It's stupid letting him live. I can't read comics anymore. Too many heroes letting psychos who hate their families breathe free air.
@@Dunge0n so you want morally corrupt super beings running round and killing anyone who they deem unfit to live? Sounds like hitlers vision of utopia to me.
Kingpin is not just some psycho. He literally keeps things in order. Everytime he is put in jail, crime worsens and powerful organisations break out in wars which affects the ordinary people.
You know what's the most terrifying about this comic? The fact that Spider-Man said "I'm going to kill you but I'm not going to kill you today" and because of that kingpin is going to be living in constant terror until Spider-Man tries to kill him
So this is what Andrew meant when he said he stopped pulling his punches
Yeah, holy crap
God, he needs his Third movie so bad! I wanna see Andrew with rage like this!
The fact peter was still holding back😨
@@Twocoolman115 It’ll be trash just like his last two movies 🤣
@@mando7323 u donrt know that dude,and yes i read the script for it,it's trash,but there's a chance they would change it,and if they do,hopefully it's good
‘I’m not here to kill you. *removes mask* I am.’ My heart hit the floor when I read that, Peter is the most reserved hero I’ve ever seen put to paper and to see him like this is terrifying.
Every person has a breaking point. Kingpin fucked up and found out what Peter's was.
Dont touch our grandpappies
Overreacting much
@@shirosatsuma4946 lol right
The scary thing is how Peter is still holding back, he coulda just snapped his neck before big Willie finishes his first sentence.
That’s not necessarily holding back though I mean he was still beating the crap out of him but he wanted him to suffer so he drew it out.
@@jakewiththecake2915 I don't think you understand. Bear in mind that we have a proportionate strength comparison, in Superior Spider Man. Ock, in Peter's body, knocks Scorpion's lower jaw off. Not dislocated it, completely removed it. And Ock wasn't trying to do that. He wasn't throwing what he thought was a serious punch.
Kingpin here, as Peter so casually mentioned, may be large and strong, we're talking sumo wrestler/Strongman build with a keen intellect, but that's in comparison to a normal human. Even during this, Peter held back. He didn't kill Fisk, but basically showed him how pathetically easy it was for him to kill Fisk, and left him to his own paranoia of the impending end.
@@fireblast133 just because you don’t use your most lethal attack doesn’t mean your holding back like Batman never holds back and yet you never see him kill people
@@jakewiththecake2915 so me pointing out a punch from Spiderman can knock a guy's lower jaw off, specifically a guy in a powersuit...does not mean he was still holding back against Fisk here when throwing a punch? That what you're saying?
@@fireblast133 honestly Fisk is a lot beefier than scorpion so I imagine these could be just regular punches for Spider-Man
5:06 Spiderman is not holding him by Fisk’s shirt… He’s holding him by the flesh on his chest. You can only imagine the pain that causes🔥🔥🔥
I'm in bed holding that part of my skin and it's soo painful
"Good men don't need rules...Now's the time not to find out why I have so many..."
The 11th Dr Who was fantastic during that war. That's a great line.
I love moments like this. it's where everyone gets that wake up call for spiderman. sure they all hate him for putting them away, but NOW they fear him. they know that with a flick of his wrist he can kill all of them and horrendous ways. that's if he's merciful. the FEW times we see him go all out and not hold anything back are the most terrifying moments in these comics. because it says 'Usually when I punch you hard enough to send you to dreamland, it's the force you use when you lift a fork. if I used a real punch, there would only be red mist.'
And I’m 99% sure the other inmates realized “shit he put me in here for my own safety
That’s why I hate the Batman vs Spider-Man argument!!
@@Ntwadumela89 what argument? the one where 'who would win in a fight?' DeathBattle did that as one of their first ones I think, and Spiderman won. because again, he holds back in every fight. and not like batman's holding back of 'I know how to kill you but I suppress that urge' but in the 'I need to act like I'm play fighting with my dog so I don't accidentally send a man's skull 3 states away'
@Oni At one point in the marvel universe he was the 4th strongest hero.
Yes, he (Spider-man himself) has unleashed his true wrath a few times in the comics, for example, he killed kingpin with a single punch after kingpin hired a hitman to assassinate him (he dodged the round but it grazed his wife).
He jokingly says "proportionate strength of a spider" which just means he is a lot stronger than any human being
In my curiosity I actually googled "Proportional strength of a spider". Apparently other people had the same idea because the first result was this:
"A spider can lift 170x their weight, and if Peter has inherited a spider's powers, he could lift about 25000 pounds, roughly translating to 12.5 ton. But in the comics it has been proven he can lift up to 100-300 tons if under extreme conditions."
@@DamienDarksideBlog Because unlike spiders, humans also have a thing called adrenaline which gives you a big enough boost to lift a car, you'll feel like shit after, but in that short timespan you're pretty figuratively a demigod
@@DamienDarksideBlog you also need to remember the spider he got bitten by wasn t a n ormal spider by any means
@@deadline6149 this is fiction, the phrase proportionate strength of a Spider is just to let the people know he got his powers from a spider , let it be through radiation or magic.. Nobody knows. Peter belongs to medium weight class in the marvel universe there's a lot of people who are stronger than him but that doesn't mean he's a weakling. The x-men have problems with the centinels robots but Peter has fought against them with no problems at all.
@@DamienDarksideBlog Well he's grown into a LOT more body density since receiving his powers. Making heavier than many people think.
This shows that even without the symbiote, he can be a anti-hero
I love two things
1) Peter does not pull punches but goes straight for the kill while in black suite despite it not being Venom but just sown ordinary suite. His suite symbolically screams I AM SERIOUS!
2) He does not joke even once during the whole encounter further delivering message to everyone
Beautiful scene
Just a heads up, a suite is a hotel room. You were looking for the word 'suit'.
Uhhh not to be “THAT GUY” but uhh actually he was holding back… cause if he wasn’t Kingpin would be DEAD…
Source:
Superior SpiderMan
He pulled his punches.
I actually read this comic. It was after Civil War.
Cap had died. Iron Man had shut himself up, again. The FF had their own problems. The X-men still had their own civil war going on.
Peter had nowhere to go except a shit apartment.
And Fisk had tracked him down.
And hired a guy to kill him. But the shot hit Aunt May.
Peter wasn't just pissed. He was DONE.
Been reading Spidey since I was a kid in the 70s. I stopped with ASM 400 as my cut off point.
But when I heard about THIS..I HAD TO READ IT. So I bought the BACK IN BLACK Hardcover collection.
Nice to see arrogant Fisk get put in his place. Pete could have done this to him years ago if he had wanted to.
Do u know name?
I do not. But a quick Google search would shed light on it pretty quickly. It's one of the few times readers paid attention to Aunt May in danger
@@shepardren8006 yeah well searched up amazing spidermann 2007, tried the amazing spiderman and scoured through comic books, can't find it
@@timannguyen2656 Then you didn't search for anything specific enough.
Smh
Back in Black.
👌
It always baffled me how any dude would want to cross a man who can lift 10 tons, leap a hundred feet from a standstill, repeatedly defeat a huge rogues gallery that includes actual aliens and lightning-spewing superbeings, and who is a certified genius on top of all that. This beatdown was a long time coming.
Correction, a man that's on the 100 - 500 ton range cause he lifted the Daily Bugle Building which is equivalent to a 100 tons.
@@darrylanderson6004 The writers have stated normally Peter can lift close to 12 tons. When he goes beast mode? Close to 300
@@Loukious yeah but the whole time he kept being Spider-Man and using his powers his strengh increased. Through time and when he got older.
Its super easy to figure out. P L O T lol i love superheros but their stories 99% of the time make 0 sense because everyone knows they are damn near gods but still try to fist fight them
I think he's always just banked on Spider-man being a weak goody two shoes.
As much as a villain enjoys the hero compromising his morals, he should never convince the hero to abandon them. All the rage, all the pain, all the sorrow that the villain inflicted but the hero will never do, the villain must never convince the hero to do. Because the hero's first target, the villain who forced him to compromise his morals.
“But I didn’t say I was going to do it today.” That was a badass line. Fisk spends the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.
Just a simple reminder of how strong Spiderman really is. He didn't put forth any effort in dismantling King Pin. Now, those who looked on, realized Spiderman could have done away with them in a split second. No jokes, no puns, no trickery...just raw power.
Spiderman is a ten tonner he was probably still only using 5 % of his power at best against Kingpin.
Nog a good idea to try and bully a dragon as kingpin found out.
@@godking spidey is far above a 10 tonner, wym
@@ziblackingbestww444 It may vary from author to author, but the only official strength measure ever given was 10 ton. It is still a LOT compared to human strength.
@@conelord1984 10 tons? almost every issue hes in has him at near 100 tons when hes not holding back. cheethah is stated by dc to be faster than wally west, when everyone knows thats not true. outdated statements arent facts
@@ziblackingbestww444 Again: the only official measure provided was 10 ton. There is a LOT of inconsistence between authors in any Marvel comic, unfortunately, but If you have any other official measure, though, feel free to link it.
Officially 100 tons is the upper limit of Marvel normal heroes, and the strength of Hulk and Thor.
Kingpin:Risk I took was calculated...But man Am I bad at math
Well, he didn't have all of the variables, such as Peter's maximum strength or agility, and Peter's murderous intent to apply both.
The Fisk i took was calculated... but Spider-Man am I bad at math.
Spiderman: no, I just feed you the wrong data.
@@dogalrorn lmao. Gorgeous
brilliant
and throughout this whole thing he's holding back, he has the strength to trade blows with the hulk and make him feel it, and even saved fisk the embarrassment by dodging when he could have tanked every last hit, to peter this wasn't a fight, it was a cold, calculated warning to everyone around that if anybody did something like this again, they wouldn't be lucky enough to be scared of the spider
Something I would love to see. Peak capability Peter Parker tanking the Marvel Universe with minimal effort. Like Deadpool kils the marvel universe but spiderman.
The degree to which Parker pulls his punches has been entirely understated in the comics and the MCU. When you look at his raw strength, he could 1-shot high tier humans. He could pop Fisk's head like a zit. He could have taken both Rogers and Bucky with both eyes closed and while knitting.
The sheer restraint he shows, when punching random street thugs and not turning them into puddles is nothing short of godlike 😅
Got to love the horrified looks on everyone’s faces when they see Peter casually owning Kingpin.
The jackslaps got me
He made him and them his bitches.
They came to the slow realization how much Peter holds back when he fights them. How easily he could turn them to red paste on the sidewalk
Even if a joking Spider-Man is annoying, criminals prefer it to the alternative. A mute Spider-Man is something scary enough to make the fearest villain in marvel cry.
I remember one time I think Spider-Man lost his voice and I can’t remember the villain but when Spider-Man didn’t say anything he just gave up on the spot because he thought Spider-Man was going to kill him when in reality he was just sick lol
@@DarthHydra what's the comic?
@@crustycorean7207 honestly I can’t remember but you can look it up
Parker gailor I need to see this comic because that is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.
@@khalifrhodes9503 Me too! LOL
spidey who doesnot crack jokes is as scary as the batman who laughs
Spiderman who doesn't Crack jokes is as scary as hulk himself I would say
And the fact that he doesn't even need to use the web.
People dont understand that the heroes arent fighting to kill theyre holding back because theyre better than the villain, but as soon as the villain forces the hero down to their level, they have just died at that point.
The fact that he didn't need acrobatics or webs to take him down shows how much he holds back. Kingpin got a wakeup call that day, realising how actually powerless he really is. In a world of superheroes, civilians/mortals really are nothing without help. Such as Batman needs technology and wealth to really be a threat.
Yea, but compared to most heros without powers, Bruce is considered a master of almost every known fighting form to man.
IAW marvel super heroes TTPRG game, SPIDEY can almost lift a minivan over his head. He's stronger than Cap A for sure.(cap can only lift a heavy motorcycle, in comparison) He's a medium strength, super. Cap's leadership, experience, heart/ never give up attitude, are his real strengths. IMO
@@nathanielcontreras4408 He also is one of the foremost geniuses on the planet, and has an arguably super-human will. He's not REALLY super human, but he's definitely in a league above Kingpin in terms of peak human stats.
@@Cyberfender1, Spidey can lift a minivan over his head. In the Marvel Universe he is in the 10 ton power class. People don't realize that Spidey if he wanted to could take out a lot of the villains if he wasn't afraid of seriously hurting someone. Even Wolverine acknowledges how powerful Spidey really is.
Kingpin is hardly an average man either. He can resist Purple Man's ability, he can battle the superhuman. He might lose but he certainly gives as as much as he can take. Spiderman mocks his weight but Kingpin is a ton son of a bitch without having superpowers. I do not really like this version of Kingpin who shoots old ladies or would be around rapists but I admit the entire scene was badass.
Friendly reminder that most of the villains that have fought spider man have even mentioned that if spiderman aint cracking jokes, thats when you should be very afraid for your lifespan, cause it might just become past tense
Didn't Norman Osborn state that when Spidey stopped cracking jokes at him, he literally felt like he should give up the mantle of Green Goblin cause he knew he fucked up bad
I think the telling thing is... Peter could have literally punched a hole in Fisk's chest. Could have ripped his heart out with his bare arms.
Spiderman has lifted buildings, bent steel... he's monstrously strong compared to even the strongest regular human.
This wasn't Peter threatening Fisk's life. This was Peter emasculting him: because no matter how strong or adept Fisk or any normal man is, what allows them to beat Spiderman is one thing and one thing only: mercy.
Take away Spider-Man's heroic purpose and leave him a prostrate mortal dragged to earth and you've just signed your death warrant.
Damn so many of us forget that Peter isn't just a guy that can shoot web and climb walls, he is an absolute power house when he wants to be. Made the mountain of a man Fisk look like a child.
When Spider-Man stops talking, just surrender. For your own sake.
Same thing with Deadpool. When he stops cracking jokes....and that's happened a few times in the comics.
Actually,don't bother, at that point, just pray he makes it quick
they did a comic like that where mysterio was freaking out over a silent spiderman so he and his men just gave up.
It turned out Spiderman just had laryngitis. LOL
There are two things worthy of true terror in the Marvel Universe.
Captain America swearing.
Spider-Man shutting up.
@@wreathofpalmaria really? can you say the issue ?
Venom: "Are you gonna kill him? I can help you kill him."
Peter: "No need."
Venom: "Oh ok. Never mind then."
that's not venom tho. He has a black suit that has nothing to do with venom or any edgy arc. That's just the good classic spiderman beating the shit out of kingpin
@@TwinIgnis thanks. I thought venom was actually there, even replayed the video looking for his lines 😃🤦🏽♂️thank you. You must work for the nasa or something I imagine
he isnt at nasa he just has an extra 5 brain cells more than us
It's a cloth suit. Watch the what if comic to this and he really does kill Kingpin instead of shooting May they kill Mary Jane and Peter defeats ironman one on one
@@TwinIgnis its funny to imagine the symbiote just chilling on the ceiling tho
People don’t realize just how strong Spider-Man/Peter Parker truly is. Peter isn’t just some fancy pants swinging around the city. He had way more power than what he’s believed to have, he just doesn’t use it to the extremes.
This is what Peter did to Green Goblin in No Way Home, good thing Tobeys Spider-man stepped in or else he would've went down a dark path.
NWH was a pussyfoot attempt at showing it, dont compare the mcu tripe to the comics
@@AnthonyWilliams-xx1iw Damn, thats crazy. and you know whats crazy aswell bro? nobody asked for your opinion.
@@AnthonyWilliams-xx1iw No one asked for your opinion
@@AnthonyWilliams-xx1iw don't be that person guy
I feel like if goblin actually tried to kill tom, instead of making Tom a murderer in his eyes, he could’ve killed him because you can clearly see Tom punching him with all he’s got and goblin shows no signs of damage and even laughs, but when tobey started to try he had him beg for mercy and cheap tricks
Peter is a kind hearted guy. That's why when he doesn't hold back its even more entertaining.
he was still holding back here
@@jerryswindler1457 True
@@jerryswindler1457 Well to be honest he was teaching all of them a valuable lesson...can't really teach them if they are all dead, humiliated sure, possible crippled ok. Kill no.
He simple showed Mercy. Nothing more.
@@jerryswindler1457 yeah he punched a hole through king pin in one hit in another timeline after venom stayed with him longer I forgot the name of the comic.
Still crazy to think even with how pissed Peter is he’s still able to hold back
oh god yeah considering when doc was using his body and ripped off scorpions jaw with a single punch. Admittedly he has a glass jaw but the sheer fact he can do it with such ease... IT is TERRIFYING.
He's holding back, but not out of kindness, a slow and painful death is what he has planned for Fisk.
What did Fisk do?
@@matiaspereyra9375 he put a hit out on aunt May. Which someone took a shot at. This is Peter coming for payback.
@@MadKat197 Don't forget Kaine Parker Scarlet Spider shows us what it would look like if Peter didn't hold back.
I can't help but read his lines in Vincent's voice. He fits so well.
Sorry I get more Michael Clark Duncan feom this scene
i hear the actor from the 90's spiderman cartoon lol
Whos vincent ?
@@knightxgamplay7682 The guy who played Kingpin in Daredevil.
The moment Spidey isn't making wise cracks is when you should give up.
Three things we are reminded of when we see him elaborating exactly how he will murder Kingpin:
1. Peter was holding back as Spider-Man. Big time. Even during the brutality. He could kill all of them if he wanted, and every inmate knew it, realized it, right then and there.
2. Peter is a genius. He doesn't just kill you. He knows how to make your death as painful as possible.
3. Peter doesn't tell lies. Ever.
I'm a bit suprised though given what I read about Wilson Fisk's strength and fighting abilties he is as strong as a non super enhanced human can be and his obese appearence is actually muscle. He has held his own in previous physical confrontations with Peter Parker. This particular confrontation was different as Fisk found out that he was dealing with a Peter Parker who wasn't holding back.
Doesn't Peter lie like all the time?
@@StupidNSimplesns i think he was reffered at the fact that when he say he would smash and kill you,he s for real
Now that I'm reading the comics, I realize how Peter is way far of what the animated series and movies show him to be
@@StupidNSimplesnsi think he meant that peter is a bad liar but really good at telling the truth. his lies arent that good,but the when he spill facts,no ones better(...maybe cap)
This is the same man that at 15-16 years old had the weight of a building and growing water pressure slowly crushing him, the same man that by the love he felt for the people in his life lifted this weight to not make them feel the same pain he felt. The same man that battle soul-sucking vampires and literal gods... and still, he never dared to use the full extent of his strength.
Spiderman, Peter Parker, is the only Marvel hero that truly has a legacy of heroes that follow his path, from the same world to uncountable other dimensions, the Way of the Spider is a path in life that few dare walk and even few can truly embody.
Fisk had no idea what a monster he unleashed on himself, it is true that Peter's banter has been from fear but not just for his life, but the life of those that he fought against... this day Fisk and those convicts saw why Spiderman SHOULDNT kill... because it would be too damn easy.
What are saying bro
@@davidmutchler2403 Something.
@@Alacaelum OK 😂
It's not that he NEVER used his full strength; that would be ridiculous. He's learned to gauge his opponent's strength and strike back appropriately. With the Inheritors, he went all-out and it wasn't enough. There was also at least one time where he instantly knocked-out some villain because he gauged wrong by the villain's appearance, but the guy turned out not to have any powers.
Well Spiderman doesn’t kill for another reason aswell: He doesn’t need to be a killer in order to stop criminals. He doesn’t need to become like that. We can see why, if we really thought that through. Because if Pete( the og Pete) doesn’t hold back, he would become the same evil he fights against, it would simply be on the other side. That’s fundamentally the reason spiderman doesn’t kill
Kingpin is so arrogant he still can't understand he's just a regular guy who got too much mercy.
To a degree, Peter did kill him at this point. He literally yanked KingPin's pants down in front of ALL of those other criminals. If One More Day hadn't happened, I don't know HOW Fisk would have been able to recover that massive of a blow to his prestige. I think I still have this comic somewhere, because it's probably one of my favorite moments in comics. As others have commented, it's so rare for Spider-man to get the chance to reach the heights he can. Because Marvel's ALWAYS yanking the football away and laughing as Peter goes tumbling down the hill.
Like I keep saying: piss Peter off and that's the ball game. His enemies can mock him because he wants them to underestimate him. Spidey's my favorite hero so I REALLY like this one.
there was a what if scenario where spidey killed all of his rogues.
Spidey's a unit man, I agree.
@@ashwolf2006 yeah Shocker learned the hard way
I'm glad you liked it bro !!!
I feel like people forget how strong Spider-Man actually is when he isn't holding back. And I think he's still actually holding back here. I think he could have easily killed Fisk in one shot if he really wanted to.
Agreed
yep, in the storyline where he bent completely to the symbiote and started killing he literally did one shot fisk when he confronted him
He can lift a tank over his head so...yeah.
In the "Superior Spider-Man" storyline, where Doc Ock had transferred his mind into Spider-Man's body, he *accidentally* punched Scorpion's lower jaw *off* his face. Without meaning to do it. Otto then realized that Parker could have killed any of his foes, Otto included, any time they'd fought.
To add to the reply above, Marvel Wiki says the Scorpion's durability is 5/7.
Also read somewhere that when Spidey get's punched, he's actively relaxing his muscles in that area, because when he tenses his muscles they're strong enough to break the bones of whoever hit them.
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
This is what I love about heroes like Spidey.
They come across as friendly until you piss them off.
Finally someone who uses their summoning ability from his hand to kill in an oddly simple way. Like firebenders who could easily put their hand to someone’s chest and literally melt their heart
I see what you mean buy don't think it's always that simple like if you see the fights in avatar most benders have a small delay to physically move and motion the elements to bend even firebenders, so unless there fighting an amateur nobody gonna likely give them the chance to put there hand on there chest to burn them unless the attacker is a master or the avatar themselves.
Or like how naruto can hold his hand on someone's head and scrabble their brain using the rasangan
@@billbob2899 Exactly there need a specific move to do so its not that simple
@@iancruz6617 I like how airbenders could possibly do the same as blood benders since there’s actual air inside the human body, once that’s taken away. They’ll just suffocate
@@MmELrD There is an "aura" of some kind around the person itself, their chi or whatever you wish to call it. When you take air inside you, it becomes you. The reason why blood bending is so outlawed, apart from the obvious "holy fuck that's fucked up" aspects, you are violating the person THEMSELVES. Both physically and spiritually.
You'd have to be a master air bender to purposely suck out the air from a person's lungs, or the oxygen somehow from a person's bloodstream. You'd most likely just want to do is create a vacuum, where you'd need more than one breath. They showed this in the actual goddamn show (for kids :D) when a deceased master air bender was surrounded by dead fire benders, he made a vacuum since you can't make fire without air. Killed himself with everyone else, you see his skellybones and Aang is devastated.
Love the pure owning he delivers with those open hand slaps. Thats the part where it really sinks in to everyone that the outcome was never in question.
nothing but solid pimp slaps
The ol Goku one-two
That... and lifting Fisk up by his chest skin like it's a coat. Ouch.
The fact that Peter can just slap you to death with no technique whatsoever speaks volumes with how much he holds back
@@MasterKombatBro he got him just like Goku did to Frieza
What I really wanna see now is Peter like this and instead of dodging, he gets punched only for them to break their hand, he has said he has to roll with punches sometimes so he doesn’t break their hands
Good point! A lot of Spidey's acrobatics during his fights is actually to stop the bad guys hurting themselves. If spidey wanted to he definitely doesn't have to dodge hits. A normal person punching Spidey would break their hands like they punched a brick wall hence why when he does take a punch he allows himself to flip through the air to absorb the impact. There's a few times in the comics where Spiderman goes dark and shows how strong he really is and he takes direct punches from rhino that don't even move him, he actually scares rhino so badly he asks to be arrested so the police can protect him and spidey can't get him in jail 🤣 spidey laughs and makes a joke about "being able to find him anywhere if he's not a good boy from now on" and pretends to go to end rhino before leaving and letting the cops take him crying back to jail.
If Spiderman ever truly broke bad itd be a real fucking problem.
If Kingpin was smart enough to not mention Peter's loved ones, he would’ve been let go safely
No, not at all, he nearly killed Aunt May, he was not walking out of there unharmed no matter what he said.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 Aunt May died from her wound. Also the very next thing Peter said to the crowd was along the lines of IF ANYONE went DIRECTLY after his family he'd return for Kingpin THEN go after the killer.
He actually tried to assassinate spider-man since his identity was revealed and all his close enemoes had a target on him and planning and kingpin did the first move and hired a hitman on him but his spider- sense dodge it but hit aunt may. Thos mostly takes place after the civil war comic event where tony stark convince peter to revealed his identity to the world to show he had nothing to worry about. Big different when you had security vs over struggle in a very open house for your so many ebemies to target you once hey knew who you're.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475
Kingpin is just Lex + Nikocado.
AND IT'S YOUR FAULT! 😡🤪🤪😠😤👉👉👉👉👉
Peter Parker: *Throws a punch.*
Kingpin: AH! 😱😧😦😣😭😭😭😭😭😭UHUHUHUUHAHHAAAAA 😭😭😭
@Le Phrog
I know. Its JUST WATER WEIGHT! 💧💦💧🌊
I love how the inmates were smiling when pete showed his face, as if they now have their man, then a few panels later and one seriously near dead kingpin, they looked terrified and worried about what pete was gonna do next
It will do them well to remember that face, and steer clear of it!
Because it's like "oh, this is how the fucker is when he's angry? You mean to tell me he was holding back?"
5:14 Peter is literally slapping the SKIN off kingpins face OMFG
Jesus
He said "im not spider anymore, I'm Peter Parker now and I ain't got morales or lines to cross"