Watch Live: Pike County Massacre Trial - OH v. George Wagner IV Day 25

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2022
  • George Wagner, IV is standing trial for the April 2016 murders of eight members of the Rhoden and Gilley families. Wagner IV faces 22 counts including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications, aggravated burglary, conspiracy, tampering with evidence and forgery.
    Wagner’s brother, Edward “Jake” Wagner, and his mother, Angela Wagner, have already pleaded guilty to taking part in the conspiracy to murder the eight Rhoden and Gilley family members over their desire to obtain full custody of the then two-year-old daughter Jake shared with victim Hanna May Rhoden. Angela and Jake Wagner have agreed to testify against their family members.
    George “Billy” Wagner, the father of Jake and George, faces the same 22 counts.
    On the morning of April 22, 2016, family members found Chris Rhoden, Sr., 40, and his cousin, Gary Rhoden, 38, dead in Chris’ mobile home on Union Hill Rd. Chris Sr.’s ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden, 37, and their children, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Chris Rhoden Jr., 16, were found shot in the head in their sleep in their mobile home down the road. Hanna May had given birth days earlier to a baby girl who was not harmed. Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20 and his fiancee, Hannah "Hazel" Gilley, 20, were also found shot to death in their sleep. Their six-month-old son was in between them covered in blood but unharmed. Frankie’s four-year-old son was unharmed in the home as well.
    Kenneth Rhoden, 44, was found shot once in the eye in his camper on Left Fork Rd. more than seven miles away.
    Angela Wagner’s mother, Rita Newcomb, pleaded guilty in 2019 to a misdemeanor count of obstruction. She had been charged with forgery and obstruction of justice for lying about signing and notarizing custody documents related to Hanna May, Jake and George’s children. Newcomb has agreed to testify against her family members.
    Billy Wagner’s mother, Fredericka Wagner, was initially charged with obstruction of justice and forgery for allegedly lying about purchasing a bullet-resistant vest for Billy. The charges were dropped after it was discovered a plate in the vest was manufactured after the homicides. Prosecutors have said they may refile the charges at a later date. Fredericka has been subpoenaed to testify.
    The victims:
    Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40
    his ex-wife Dana Manley Rhoden, 38,
    their children Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20,
    Christopher Sr.’s cousin Gary Rhoden, 38,
    Sr.’s brother Kenneth Rhoden, 44,
    and Frankie’s fiancée Hannah “Hazel” Gilley, 20
    The Wagners did it so they could get custody of the young daughter Jake had with his ex Hanna Rhoden, prosecutors said. Jake indeed won sole custody of the child, now 8, after the murders. The Wagners moved to Alaska. That all changed after authorities arrested them in November 2018, sparking a legal battle lasting almost four years.
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  • @TheFireOne22
    @TheFireOne22 Год назад +9

    Should have just shown the transcripts on the screen

  • @renemorgan2913
    @renemorgan2913 Год назад +24

    This judge is too easy on defense.

    • @PeppermintPJ90025
      @PeppermintPJ90025 Год назад +3

      Isn't that the truth. 😠

    • @mrssassy9324
      @mrssassy9324 Год назад +1

      Yep!!

    • @jessicathomas73
      @jessicathomas73 Год назад +1

      I feel the same way but I haven't watched every minute of the trial so I might have the wrong impression

    • @poodledoodlequilter6479
      @poodledoodlequilter6479 Год назад +4

      The judge is not easy on the defense, he is maintaining the evidence and preventing a miss trial, trust me the defense is going to use every appeal that is allowed, so when it goes to the appellant courts, all the jury heard is what everyone else heard and not the "opinion" of what the state has transcribe, there is enough there that can be heard to realize that George was right there in the middle of it and not in no shape, form, or fashion trying to step away from the family.

  • @racheljenkins4800
    @racheljenkins4800 Год назад +27

    These people were living in a bubble on a back road, Jake was watching too much walking dead and Angela is one evil piece of work ruling the roost, Billy sounds brain dead, in general they all talk too much, I felt sad the poor child calling her mommy in a truck full of deviants. GEORGE IS ONE OF THEM asking sophie did she not get a bath, he needs to change his waistcoat.

    • @gailcullinan349
      @gailcullinan349 Год назад +1

      George's goose is cooked. His conduct on the wire tap recordings disproves Defence Counsel's opening statement.

    • @pattil7947
      @pattil7947 Год назад

      The epitome of Satans warriors are roaming amongst us every day.These ppl are unbelievably evil, not one should see the light of day again.

    • @EllisInWonderland.
      @EllisInWonderland. Год назад

      You are so correct!

  • @kimberlyward9032
    @kimberlyward9032 Год назад +2

    I don't see how the state can decide what in a conversation is pertinent in the case. They are not the jury! The jury should be the one deciding if something is pertinent or not.

  • @67jujub
    @67jujub Год назад +7

    Can someone write her questions for her?? And ummm is not the way a question should be started!

    • @judiashley5818
      @judiashley5818 Год назад +3

      The female BCI tech foresenics lady is just as bad.

  • @PeppermintPJ90025
    @PeppermintPJ90025 Год назад +10

    I can't understand 3/4 of what they're saying in the recordings.

    • @amywilkins543
      @amywilkins543 Год назад +1

      I can’t either! I don’t know who can!!!🤷‍♀️

    • @thisisanaussiegal3590
      @thisisanaussiegal3590 Год назад +5

      They should have had a transcript going at the same time as the wire taps.

    • @amywilkins543
      @amywilkins543 Год назад +1

      @@thisisanaussiegal3590 Absolutely Agree!

  • @tammygould2682
    @tammygould2682 Год назад +6

    I do wish the DA and the witness would attend a speaking class , the ummm is really really unappealing to be in public office.

  • @paulineaquilina5328
    @paulineaquilina5328 Год назад +12

    Ok I can’t hear anything still that links George if the jury feel anything like I do am am totally confused with all these witnesses coming and going it not flowing and making any sense

    • @emnurse2056
      @emnurse2056 Год назад

      I think Jake was the main killer and maybe the only one with possibly exception, and that would have been the initial shot (maybe 2) to Chris Sr. Just my theory - that scene plan was already going awry, but there was no turning back at that point (it would be a situation of kill or be killed) and George was a much more skilled hunter to be able to make an accurate distance shot count.

    • @thisisanaussiegal3590
      @thisisanaussiegal3590 Год назад

      @raga raga didn't Jake say George was a lookout and helped move a few bodies as well

    • @Misc-
      @Misc- Год назад +1

      conspiracy is a crime, he is definitely complicit!!

    • @katie5501
      @katie5501 Год назад +6

      I am glad someone is saying it. This special prosecutor is just bad. That horrible opening, rally set the stage. The state has shown ZERO evidence connecting George directly to the crime. The jury has to be board out their minds and simply lost. I absolutely believe he participated in these crimes from outside research. If the jury convicts him on this, and the state doesn't really tie this together at some point, the guy really got a raw deal. He might be guilty but the state evidence thus fair just does not prove it.
      side note; I watch a lot of trials. Usually the defense attorneys are INSUFFERABLE! This is the only case I can think of that the defense attorneys are more likable than the prosecution.

    • @paulineaquilina5328
      @paulineaquilina5328 Год назад +1

      @@katie5501 agree with you totally a lot of people just say all the other crap cause they think he is guilty but the jury don’t care what they think the jury need evidence and so far there is nothing that I can see that would convict just like Nik Cruz case the prosecution did not give all the evidence they took bibs and bobs and the jury in the end could not come up with a unanimous verdict I called that from Day 2

  • @rhondamiller3154
    @rhondamiller3154 Год назад

    What time is court today.

  • @angelahill2624
    @angelahill2624 Год назад

    Does anyone know if his defense team is hired or court appointed? Thanks

    • @rebeculus
      @rebeculus Год назад +1

      My guess is retained, not Court appointed, but I’m curious too.

  • @cynthiacarter514
    @cynthiacarter514 Год назад +9

    Too bad some of Jake’s recordings were not clearer. I wonder what Ohio laws are dealing with recording without the person’s knowledge. Jake was recording in Hannah’s dwelling not his own as well.

    • @cmtrykid2000
      @cmtrykid2000 Год назад +6

      In Ohio only one party has to know the recording is going

    • @doctordoctor7813
      @doctordoctor7813 Год назад +2

      Ohio is a one party state- so he was legal

    • @rhondamiller3154
      @rhondamiller3154 Год назад

      Is this right court to yes or no

  • @debbiehall7016
    @debbiehall7016 Год назад

    I know the professional is sitting there thinking, by taking out the background noise I understood everything they said.. oh well.

  • @Simplysamantha2005
    @Simplysamantha2005 Год назад +10

    They sure did spend a lot of money on getting caught. If that ain't Karma then I don't know what is.

    • @pattil7947
      @pattil7947 Год назад +1

      Unbelievable, their arrogance! No insight what do ever! Good Lord

    • @Simplysamantha2005
      @Simplysamantha2005 Год назад +1

      @@pattil7947 yes ma'am! Their arrogance is on a whole other level.

  • @christyheron
    @christyheron Год назад +2

    poor wire tap lady...she must be exhausted after the cross! 39:55

  • @rhondamiller3154
    @rhondamiller3154 Год назад

    Is this right court day yes or no

  • @kimberlyward9032
    @kimberlyward9032 Год назад +2

    I wish they would just get to the parts that tie George to this. It's like a trial for Jake and Angela and hasn't to date proved George had anything to do with it. Someone is not just guilty based on the association like they have tried to do so far. I don't trust Angela's or Jake's testimony as fact.

  • @whitebird803
    @whitebird803 Год назад +1

    I wish the Judge who ruled over the Darrell Brooks case could have ruled over this one. She would have seen through the bull and time wasting antics of the defense.

    • @Lakota790
      @Lakota790 Год назад

      You are, so far, the only person who has commented on seeing that trial.

  • @pemberta
    @pemberta Год назад +3

    I am so confused with all the bank accounts and $ transactions.

    • @cynthiacarter514
      @cynthiacarter514 Год назад

      Yes, so am I. This is my second time listening to it. Hopefully, it is better understood tomorrow as he testifies again.

    • @TheFireOne22
      @TheFireOne22 Год назад

      Same here… wondering how they have so many insurance payouts also

    • @kazbee6978
      @kazbee6978 Год назад +1

      Not particularly relevant to whether or not George was part of the murders.

    • @judiashley5818
      @judiashley5818 Год назад

      They were especially Angela serial crooks There wre arsons and it seems some suspicion of the car accident that injured Chris Newcombe

  • @pathanson2220
    @pathanson2220 Год назад +5

    Its unbelievable that the Wagners actually thought they could get away with this crime without detection !!!!

    • @pattil7947
      @pattil7947 Год назад +1

      Right! No insight at all! Wow! Their arrogance proceeded them!

  • @lisasmith4296
    @lisasmith4296 Год назад +3

    It’s hilarious how Americans say “ vee he cool” vehicle

  • @rhondamiller3154
    @rhondamiller3154 Год назад

    Now what going on

  • @zanpsimer7685
    @zanpsimer7685 Год назад +14

    Battle of the ummms. Give me strength.

  • @celenadesjardin7088
    @celenadesjardin7088 Год назад +3

    BCI financial guy is interesting. Antithetical thinker. And so is prosecutor questioning him. Anyone else notice when it comes antithetical thinking the prosecutor guy questions witnesses.

  • @traceonthecase
    @traceonthecase Год назад +1

    Why is this guy in the purple so freaking annoyed?

  • @cyndilagasse991
    @cyndilagasse991 Год назад

    this defense lawyer has T rex arms

  • @natski2403
    @natski2403 Год назад +3

    I watch a lot of trials. This one is the most boring one I've ever followed. That poor jury

  • @rhondamiller3154
    @rhondamiller3154 Год назад

    How came they not in court room

  • @kimberlyward9032
    @kimberlyward9032 Год назад +2

    As much as I want to see them all convicted, I in good conscious if I was a juror couldn't find George guilty based on the evidence presented so far.

  • @beckiburgess6576
    @beckiburgess6576 Год назад +3

    I dont understand if you didn't do you you guy's are sure paranoid think it's disgusting how this family thought they could get away with this and not be caught I pray for them children to live a full happy life and never be allowed to speak or see these scumbags again

    • @pattil7947
      @pattil7947 Год назад

      Unfortunately how can they live their lives not being haunted by all of this. Prayers for them.

  • @paulineaquilina5328
    @paulineaquilina5328 Год назад +9

    Ok I don’t agree with not hearing the entire recording I hope the defence plays them when it’s their turn

    • @pjhey947
      @pjhey947 Год назад +4

      I agree! They should be played in full ( like entire phone call) so they hear everything.

    • @cherylarledge2950
      @cherylarledge2950 Год назад +3

      They wanted to play them and judge wouldn't allow it.i think the judge is being predijust.

    • @Popitlikeitshot
      @Popitlikeitshot Год назад +4

      The part where George is saying they didn’t do anything gives him a chance to tell his side of the story without having to get on the witness stand which is why the judge would not allow. This is very typical of court

    • @gmaheybaby1283
      @gmaheybaby1283 Год назад +2

      @@pjhey947 the defense is just trying to get the tapes thrown out. Which he never will. He knows the law, he is just to see what he throws on the wall sticks. The Judge entertains too much of his BS.

    • @gmaheybaby1283
      @gmaheybaby1283 Год назад

      George may not have pulled the trigger, but make no mistake he is as guilty as every member in family for the murders. Just like a driver to a bank robbery. He was there, the shoe prints prove it!

  • @rhondamiller3154
    @rhondamiller3154 Год назад +1

    Is this court for today yes or no
    😊

  • @sdhsn774
    @sdhsn774 Год назад +5

    What's up my YTube family, anybody wanna go big and start a channel. Make clips and timestamps of these trials. You'll get plenty views as I watched 1.5 hours this morning but noway watched all 7 hours. I have no choice but to go with your judgment of what to edit out.

    • @AGodTyr
      @AGodTyr Год назад +1

      Make edits and put them in reels

    • @SpitVenom4
      @SpitVenom4 Год назад

      There's one of these bigger channels that's real funny about people clipping their stream and I think it's this one. It should be on a pool feed though. I think that's the way all trial footage goes. I'd be interested if you're serious about it. Nobody I know of does clips, It's either the whole trial or commentary that's more about the creator than the trial. I bet it would do well.

  • @gailcullinan349
    @gailcullinan349 Год назад +3

    The Special Prosecutors and the State have made a fantastic and meticulously accurate case. The Forensic Audit serves much proof to purchases of items used in the crimes and ownership of same as well as proof to other charges. I refer a comparison to the extremely poor case that the Iowan Governor's AG Hughes brought against the wrongly convicted Todd Mullis.

    • @judiashley5818
      @judiashley5818 Год назад +2

      I'm not seeing it. Meticulous yes but evidence to George not so much. It s like watching try the wagner family and not him.

    • @tamzart8162
      @tamzart8162 Год назад

      That's the cornrake murder

    • @kazbee6978
      @kazbee6978 Год назад

      @@judiashley5818 totally agree. The defence is doing a great job. Their cross on the forensic audit guy only proved that Jake and or Angela bought items related to the crime. They even proved one of the accounts that was supposed to be George’s was for a George Wagner 3rd, not 4th. I’m not saying George isn’t guilty but State have yet to prove it.

    • @merry8545
      @merry8545 Год назад

      Mullis guilty as charged - no one falls on a cornrake and pulls it out only to fall on it again - 4 tines in a cornrake and she had 6 holes in her body showing the corn rake struck her twice - I'm just not buying that she fell on it twice 🙄🤔🙄🤔 George's quilt is more apparent in this case

    • @gailcullinan349
      @gailcullinan349 Год назад

      @@merry8545 Todd Mullis was wrongfully convicted. Wait and see. Hos appeals are sealed but I have access to same.

  • @lisasmith4296
    @lisasmith4296 Год назад

    Aaand ummm ahh ok 😂

  • @KOOLGREENS
    @KOOLGREENS Год назад

    I hope the judge is not your a female so we are going to do what the men on defense says

  • @chrisleclerc5254
    @chrisleclerc5254 Год назад

    So I stopped counting "UM's" right around 7:18ish...at least a thousand "um's"! Public speaking courses are either free or real cheap for public servants in most US jurisdictions. I highly recommend!!! UM, PLEASE!?