Watch Live: Pike County Massacre Trial - OH v. George Wagner IV Day One Part One
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2022
- George Wagner, IV is standing trial for the April 2016 murders of eight members of the Rhoden and Gilley families. Wagner IV faces 22 counts including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications, aggravated burglary, conspiracy, tampering with evidence and forgery.
Wagner’s brother, Edward “Jake” Wagner, and his mother, Angela Wagner, have already pleaded guilty to taking part in the conspiracy to murder the eight Rhoden and Gilley family members over their desire to obtain full custody of the then two-year-old daughter Jake shared with victim Hanna May Rhoden. Angela and Jake Wagner have agreed to testify against their family members.
George “Billy” Wagner, the father of Jake and George, faces the same 22 counts.
On the morning of April 22, 2016, family members found Chris Rhoden, Sr., 40, and his cousin, Gary Rhoden, 38, dead in Chris’ mobile home on Union Hill Rd. Chris Sr.’s ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden, 37, and their children, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Chris Rhoden Jr., 16, were found shot in the head in their sleep in their mobile home down the road. Hanna May had given birth days earlier to a baby girl who was not harmed. Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20 and his fiancee, Hannah "Hazel" Gilley, 20, were also found shot to death in their sleep. Their six-month-old son was in between them covered in blood but unharmed. Frankie’s four-year-old son was unharmed in the home as well.
Kenneth Rhoden, 44, was found shot once in the eye in his camper on Left Fork Rd. more than seven miles away.
Angela Wagner’s mother, Rita Newcomb, pleaded guilty in 2019 to a misdemeanor count of obstruction. She had been charged with forgery and obstruction of justice for lying about signing and notarizing custody documents related to Hanna May, Jake and George’s children. Newcomb has agreed to testify against her family members.
Billy Wagner’s mother, Fredericka Wagner, was initially charged with obstruction of justice and forgery for allegedly lying about purchasing a bullet-resistant vest for Billy. The charges were dropped after it was discovered a plate in the vest was manufactured after the homicides. Prosecutors have said they may refile the charges at a later date. Fredericka has been subpoenaed to testify.
The victims:
Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40
his ex-wife Dana Manley Rhoden, 38,
their children Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20,
Christopher Sr.’s cousin Gary Rhoden, 38,
Sr.’s brother Kenneth Rhoden, 44,
and Frankie’s fiancée Hannah “Hazel” Gilley, 20
The Wagners did it so they could get custody of the young daughter Jake had with his ex Hanna Rhoden, prosecutors said. Jake indeed won sole custody of the child, now 8, after the murders. The Wagners moved to Alaska. That all changed after authorities arrested them in November 2018, sparking a legal battle lasting almost four years.
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I can't listen anymore because of all the UMMs 🤦♀️
Don't forget the ands
Lol
I loved this opening! Everything they plan to prove. This is the victims story. A family chart would have been helpful. Smart to take jury to the properties for a clearer understanding.
Dear God undoubtedly the devil walks among us. Those poor babies now have to grow up without their parents. To call this individual a monster is an understatement. How cold does a person have to be to kill a mother nursing her precious baby! God its sickening and that's also an understatement. There are no words that suffice. Rest in peace to all of the victims.
Well put! There are no words to define the cold blooded cruelty that envelops this poor excuse for a man.
Amen❤️
Not just their parents, but their entire extended family! That’s almost a big of loss as parents! I had a single mom and my grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins were a HUGE part of my life. To have grown up without my mama would have been a tremendous loss, but to not have the other people who loved you almost the same as a mother, would be devastating!
@@capricornqueen3139 L my 😊
There is no such thing as god or a devil. There are only good and bad people.
This man will think that he "repents" to god and will feel okay before he dies just because of religion.
I’m sure the female prosecutor is a great attorney, but goodness gracious I had a hard time understanding due to all the pauses, ands and ums, and corrections. I watch boring court cases all the time and this was by far brutal.
I literally fell asleep!
I was just going to say the same thing. Sounds like a 4th grader giving a book report on a book not read till night before.
You beat me to it. The Ums were non stop. Wow! I assume she's nervous being streamed but it is so distracting. I hope the jury was paying attention.
I just began this trial on here and the “um’s” are really making it hard to follow! I hope the jury is able to get passed them, maybe it’s different in person, O don’t know, but I’m rooting for the prosecution been following this case
For years and I just wish the opening statement had been better rehearsed and she has more confidence
She is not a dynamic speaker, that is for sure. She was unbearably hard to listen to and follow and if I was a juror, I would have already stopped paying attention. She comes across as so unprepared! Girl, did you not practice? You are a prosecutor, you have to be a good speaker!
There is no way anyone hearing this for the first time could remember the connections between all of these people. And once you hear one of those Ums that’s all you hear for the duration…
OMG it's like I'm predicting when they are coming. So I'm missing what she's actually saying. But I refuse to go back.
She is Awful. She may have a good reputation but like Elaine, it Must Not Be In Trials in front of a Jury! Hells Bells Did No One Try to Listen to Her Practice This?? No Maps, Ummm Ummm Ummmmmm
I remember all the connections and relayed it to my husband perfectly afterwards. It’s actually quite easy to follow if you listen. Does she say “um” a lot and try and add info? ABSOLUTELY!! But I guarantee she’s never tried a massacre such as this, with all this extensive info that is extremely important to the case and needs to be relayed in lay terms to normal people. I would actually pay to see you go up there and do better. Let me know when the show is 👍🏻
@Carolyn M
I agree with you. All the ummms from the Prosecuting Attorney are unbearable to listen to.
Try counting how many ummms are in her opening statement, it's almost impossible to do.
@@laurenmartin9111
I'm with you on this one @Lauren Martin.
I'm in the UK & had heard of the case, but not many of the details. Basically I knew 8 people were brutally murdered, except for some babies, & the 2 surnames of the families involved. That's it.
I followed along & was also then able to relay the details to a friend who, like me, is a True Crime Junkie.
As far as the "Ums" etc, it's clearly a habit, one it's likely she's very aware of.
I'm sure if her team, the Judge, &/or whoever else, felt it would have a truly negative impact on the case, she would not have been taken on, let alone deliver the Opening Statement!
Habits are HARD to break!
Is anyone here perfect? We ALL have habits & again, they're hard to break. Otherwise there wouldn't be any, would there!? For all we know it was maybe how her family, her favourite teacher (if she had one) or her school friends spoke whilst she was a child, people she spent a lot of time with, & she just picked up on it. Who knows?
Remember Chris Watts & how he said "Like" in almost every sentence? As did NK? Did they BOTH just happen to do that? Or did one of them pick it up from the other, & formed the same "habit"? It's possible.
Does she do it on purpose? No! Of course not. Especially when she knows the world's eyes are on her. She's a SPECIAL Prosecutor, so she must be doing something right.
I'm sure she'd rather she didn't keep saying "Um" all the time, but that's just part of who she is.
I know someone who sniffs ALL the time.
Sniff, sniff, sniff. She doesn't have a cold, it's a habit & she hates it.
However she just can't help it.
So, if any of us here are perfect, including myself, & have absolutely NO "annoying habits", please, do let me know.
I'm putting MY hand up straight away & will state
"Yes!
I have what "some people" would consider "ANNOYING HABITS". One of which is extremely distracting for others.
Yes, I know, I'm not a Prosecutor, but I do have a very responsible job & presentations & public speaking are involved.
Personally I thought she did a great job of explaining & unravelling an extremely complex case.
⏰ Timestamps ⏰
0:54 video/audio begins - preliminary matters and jury instructions
19:11 Opening statements for prosecution
27:18 sidebar while getting jury notepads
28:48 opening resumes
2:14:40 sidebar and break
2:22:55 Return to opening statement
Prosecution opening statement goes to end of video. This may be the longest opening statement I’ve ever watched!
The prosecution opening statement was 🤢
I painfully listened for 2 hrs before coming to comments 😇 even aside from the length 😣 all the trailing off, back-ups, & incessant “so, um, and aaaaannnnd” I had to pause 3x or so bc I noticed myself zoning out 😬 I feel for the jury not having a pause button 😰 “right?”
Ok
This county needs to reconsider who they hire as prosecutor, this umm um stuff has left me alienated more than half the time. I can fit her entire opening in less than one hour
Omg yesss she’s driving me crazy 🤦🏻♀️and kinda confusing me I had to go look everything up to know who’s who 😤😬
It was very detailed, a little too much yes. Kinda reminds me talking with my mom that goes on many tangents before the point or story is told. Love you Mom!
Wow! That’s how my son describes me;@
Lol 🤣 the I love you mom at the end is the best
i think all women are like this...because when i was a kid i felt the same about my mom but now that i am a mother my son rolls his eyes and tells me to hurry up and get to the point! Like...how rude! A lady should always take her time
The story is about 3 men who executed 8 people yet people are focusing on a prosecutor's talking rhythm..God help us!
YES!!!!!
Agree- however, I came to look for comments 1.5 hours into it, because it’s extremely difficult to follow the opening because of her pausing and mistakes and she says 4593762 “um’s.” She sounds depressed. Other prosecutors are upset and passionate and engages you so you’re paying attention and follow what’s going on. Like Jodi Arias prosecutor.
It’s not an article, or a news report, where you can read or watch and gasp at the terror. And it doesn’t symbolize lack of horror at the sickening and scary tragedy.
Remember….there’s a jury…who needs to be focused, awake, and follow it correctly.
Agree. But, to be fair, there is a jury…that is listening to her. If it’s painful for us, it’s painful for them. I would think you’d want the jury focused, alert, and absorbing all the information. Unfortunately, the way she delivered the opening statement, I doubt any one of those occurred. Which, is highly unfortunate in a case of this magnitude and tragedy.
Right oh wow
It just goes to show that public speaking requires preparation.
It’s the bajillion uns and the perpetual back-tracking that makes her whole narrative impossible to follow and irksome to listen to. The fact that the crime is so heinous makes it that much more unfortunate that the delivery of the opening statement is so disjointed. One can appreciate the gravity of the trial and still critique the orator.
George looks like he’s seething with anger. Don’t think the jury is gonna like that…
He looks evil to the core and he's having a hard time controlling what's seething inside his evil body!
Can you even imagine being this little girl that sparked a custody battle turned brutal murder of one entire side of her family, the other whole side goes to prison for the 8 murders?? I hope for her sake they changed her name when she was 2yrs old and noone ever tells her who she really is. I can't even imagine what she would/will go through when she's old enough to really understand all this, the guilt and shame she might feel knowing custody over her is what sparked this. But a crime like this goes deep, its not just about custody, you don't just murder a whole family side over just custody, there is deep hate that causes this. Unreal. After reading the comments all I can hear now is "UM" and "AND" but this prosecutor never met a detail she didn't love to tell. I hope they prosper in nailing these sumbiches.
It is unfathomable that George is putting these family members through this horric trial knowing he was involved and had complete knowledge of this crime. Sickening!
The Prosecutor sounds like she just the case that morning. She's absolutely terrible.
She is terrible. I’m imagining if Juan Martinez or William Fitzpatrick we’re in her place.
Why would someone name their child Bovine? 😳
For real! I was wondering if I heard that right. I'm like did they really name a kid bovine?
I was wondering the same! Unreal!! 😬
Grandma named that child i bet
My friends parents named him Bervil. Could you imagine looking at your beautiful baby boy and saying... Oh he's so beautiful let's name him Bervil? His parents should be fined for that lol
I came to the comments just to see if anyone else thought the name Bovine was horrible. Just WHY?! I hope they call him "Bo" out of kindness.
Justice For The Rhoden Family Sorry For Ur Loss
Wow, if we were playing a drinking game every time this prosecutor says "um" we'd all be drunk within the first 15 minutes of her opening!
Am I seeing this correct, her opening statement is THREE HOURS LONG?!??! That's poorly done, not necessary. I also agree with a journalist who said that they should've presented a relationship chart including ALL of the outside members of the family and friends that are involved in the case, and how they're related to the victims and suspects to give a clearer picture to the jury.
Exactly I'm confused
Not to mention all the ‘um’s
Yes like a flow chart it’s to much information for jury to absorb too many moving parts,
The jury had to request note pads & pens! This rule area prosecutor’s office needed to outsource help from a more seasoned prosecutor. Where is the conviction in her voice?.Uumm..
@@jasminej2844 I believe this has been speculated as one of the reasons that Casey Anthony got off with it. The jury was bored silly and found it hard to follow the prosecution's case due to an overload of drawn out information
How is it possible for a professional attorney to present such a convoluted, uninspired opening statement?
Is this her first case? Please tell me it’s her first case.
I agree! With this case she could have made a very dramatic and impactful opening statement.
I agree. She’s terrible
Um and um and um and um and is all I heard
Yeah, it's like... Ma’am, eight people are dead. Eight. People. EIGHT.
Omg!!! I can't get through the opening statements!! She has said "Um" at least 2,000 times and she isn't finished!! This is painful. Opening statements shouldn't be boring.
Watching this a month later and am thankful for the fast forward because this was painful to watch
How many times this prosecutor says um, uh, and…wow
How is that important and is she the only one in society who needs thinking pauses? A lot of people doesnt seem to think at all, very little though.
Even the Hatfields and McCoys's didn't stoop this low.
That was my show
Just started delving into this case & your comments best describes this case
OMG the woman speaking to the jury really needs to work on breaking that habit of saying " um". Brutal.
I can’t deal with the “umm, umm, umm, umm” over and and over again!
I seriously have a hard time listening to this because of the um, uh
Also…I don’t know if others do this but when a speakers voice drops, toward the end of a sentence, and becomes barely audible…my ears stop listening. If the speaker doesn’t care enough to keep their voice well modulated I don’t owe them the courtesy of listening.
This was so incredibly painful, I almost feel bad for the attorney. I can’t believe the prosecution team picked her to give the opening. Did they not rehearse her opening statement? I have to believe they would have given feedback to keep it to 90 min max and that you don’t need to go into every detail and down every rabbit hole because those aspects will come out during the trial. And of course, they would’ve told her to watch the “ums”! She has really done the family a disservice. The jury has probably already decided they can’t stand her and hardly remembers anything she said because there was way too much to digest. If they even stayed awake! Terrible opening statement.
Totally agree. Are the jurors still awake?
Someone needs to tell her all the ums and ands are unnecessary. She says um over and over not to mention repeatedly saying and in between every single simple phrase. Definitely a public speaking class should be in the works.
Even the defendant looked on the verge of a snooze. 😬
This case has already cost so much, and the cost of finding a death penalty qualified prosecutor couldn’t be cheap. Having said all that , I think it’s safe to assume they accepted the one with the lowest price tag
@@yourgamerfriend6478 yesss! The “umm” and the “right” had me wanting to forward through her opening statement!
Even the judge is barely staying awake. All I know is, if I’m ever involved in the murder of eight people, I’d hope to get a little more Fire and Brimstone thrown my way.
“if..” lol
What's wrong with you people
Even George is falling asleep before the first hour is even up..
BOVINE whatever p;ossessed them to name the poor child that.
omg
I understand that a huge part of the Attorney's job is to tell their side of the story, painting a picture for the jury. I am honestly appalled at the opening statement of this prosecutor. I'm sure she's great at what she does but come on, a little bit of rehearsal would've done her some good.
um, uh, agreed. uh, um, yeah
Or cutting out some of the lengthier details so the experts could explain
Thank you for all your hard work
The woman/prosecutor has really done her homework and knows this case inside and out. I remember when this happened and there was a whisper that family might be involved. If you do love a child so much and want full custody, how can you kill her mother and family members and friends. These fiends are so twisted, who do you start with. The bloody parents. Very sad for the child and her mother.
For those criticising others complaining about her disjointed presentation and all the "umms" and persistent tapping of the stand near the microphone.
Some people find it harder to stay focused, or find over detailed information/explaination unnecessary/confusing. Remember our brains all work very differently!
Agree anoying” umms”
I should have read the comments before even attempting to listen to this opening. 😵
the moment when prosecutor explains about Frankie's kids my heart just broken into pieces......couldn't stop crying
Isn’t this just supposed to be an opening statement? She is presenting her whole case!!
In the 1840s my great-great grandparents moved from Bavaria to Pike County, Ohio. My great-grandfather moved away in the 1890s. I hope none of these people are related to me.
The great thing about this unbelievably long opening statement is I don't have to watch the trial! Poor court reporter...
A court stenographer is literally- invaluable!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
The prosecuting attorney is extremely thorough in her opening statement. It almost felt as if she was giving way to much information. Granted, it was a mass shooting with 8 victims.
It just was easy to feel lost in her opening statement. Instead of giving a synopsis of what happened it was far more detailed.
Maybe it’s just me.
Not just you.. waayyy too longwinded
To much information/to many victims to keep track of. Like learning an entire soap show in an hour (or however long the opening argument was)
It was very detailed because she couldn't talk about many of these things in the evidentiary phase of the trial. She needs to load some information onto this part so she can be sure to have told the jury everything that they need to find him guilty and give him the death penalty. It seems like way too much, but it was all necessary. I think many people on here don't get that.
@@KakeKittyStyle all these people dont understand how court works. most opening statements outline everything in a case
Why everyone talking about the prosecutor no one saying how terrible this was 8 people shot several times so what how she present this tragic event people are so one track minded always looking for negative in wrong place God have mercy on us all
I think some people find it harder to stay focused, or find over detailed information/explaination unnecessary/confusing. Remember our brains all work very differently!
This prosecutor has had years to prepare and this is the opening statement we get. I hope it gets better. The jury is gonna need their notes.
8 people are dead, you would think she would be a little more impassioned when telling their story.
First time hearing it and it's fine.
Ummm…. I.. uh…think this ummm..prosecutor did ….uh..not take take umm…. Public….um… speaking. Not only that the opening statement was not very cohesive. I had a hard time focusing on the opening statement simply because of her poor speaking ability.
Absolutely I’m so happy I’m not the only one struggling with her over here smh 🤦🏻♀️
You try summarizing this very complex case with 8 victims and 4 suspects, trying to keep everything straight and stick to the facts about this one specific suspect that's in trial at the moment. It CANNOT be easy. Oh no, she says um when she's trying to remember which train of thought she was on while speaking! THE HORROR. I'd rather her ums instead of her rushing thru it, confusing the jury and end up with a not guilty verdict but go off.
@@kandizee826 yeah but she had all this time to prepare. The prosecutor for the Parkland case didn’t miss a beat and there always double the victims and crazy circumstances, yet he managed to not only remember their names and every detail, he did so without barely using no notes. So your argument may be a little valid, but not a good reason.
Um and um I um did too and um you um are so right and um
@@yourgamerfriend6478 uh…. Yeah…. Ummm thanks…. Uh… she … ummm… needs….uh… to….umm…. Take….umm…a…. Toastmasters…. Uh…… class
This is absolutely horrific. Why in world did it take 8yrs for this to get to trial! These poor young people wiped out. And all the babies who lost their parents. Sounds like Wagner family were evil as can be. Proof to women, when u start seeing red flags to run and protect yourself and your kids! When someone first shows u who they are, BELIEVE THEM!
The mom Angela was mastermind/ring leader !! Def not always the men! Sad sad situation and I don't feel bad for any of them!
@@racheltalbott3960 Why would a grandma not let the child's parents raise them Angela wanted to raise the grandchildren instead of letting the parents
6 yrs.
christ this opening statement is convoluted and dense, it's just confusing for those not overly familiar with the case or person's involved. 🙄
It's confusing for people extremely familiar with the victims and their relationships, too
This prosecutor appears to have a lot of things on her mind other than this case..she appears lost.
Ok
This woman is a terrible speaker. She's had SIX years to put together a coherent opening statement and couldn't do it. This the best you got Ohio?? Seriously?? Awful.
She did a good job, regardless of her nervousness.
I agree. A lot of people don’t realize this is a death penalty case. They are much more careful with this.
I agree.
Yes I agree
Tragic story, but I don't know how the jury isn't distracted with the um, um, um, um and able to follow the story the way she is telling it.
Yes one or two may mean you are simply thinking! I got it
As I read these comments about the opening statement I believe your all idiots
The Defendant reminds me of Norman Bates from the movie Psycho - after he is caught he won’t even flinch to swat a file to show the detectives how non-violent he is. This Defendant hasn’t moved or flinched except to wiggle his nose.
He's evil to the core and at the same time scared sh*tless.
But you can see hes absolutely seething i think, keeps clenching his jaw
Um um um. Just wow
At 2:43:45 the prosecuter finally gets to the events of how it happened that night. Keep in mind she is stating what Jake ragnar testified to for a plea deal.
Thank you so much l was losing my mind 🙄🥱
I agree, thanks… but it actually starts more at 2:42:00
@@notapplicable761 🤭👍😁
I can understand not showing the faces of witnesses but ridiculous that not allowing audio. Makes no sense that streaming to public but cut out his whole testimony. So illogical
Is that a look of guilt on Georges face, or what?! My god, with his eyes darting around not knowing where he should look, & he is mad that he’s there, mad that he’s been caught.
This prosecutor has clearly been working on this case for quite some time. She seems very emotionally invested. She has spent a lot of time with the victims family. I have spent a lot of time in the courts.
I found nothing wrong with this opening except the last 20 minutes going over the language of the offences dragged on.
I didn't know much about this case & found it easy to follow what was said.
There's alot of ppl involved so I can understand why it took longer than most opening statements.
Same here.
Perhaps she is cognitive of the fact that she is in charge of getting the horrific story out and realizes not every juror picked are well educated. In order for everything to come out and be understood she must tell the facts in a way that everyone will understand the significance of how important it is (of course, without all the "um's".) Which were said out of nervesnous.
Meanwhile, the prosecutor for the Darrell Brooks trial - 6 deaths and 60+ injuries - wasn't anywhere near this long in opening or closing statements
@stormbringer Or the prosecutor in the Nicholas Cruz school shooting case. And he didn’t even have notes lol
WHY WHY WHY are lawyers allowed to drone on and on and on during opening arguments. I’m betting the jury’s minds fell asleep during this disjointed monologue!!!
This is a death penalty case. she laid out the whole case with tons of evidence that was found. This evidence will have to be corroborated during trial, and it will be. A death penalty case is the hardest one to prosecute successfully. I think she did OK even though it was a little long.
Well this isn't a simple case. She has a lot of information to cover, with it being multiple victims.
She didn't drone on & on & on.. she clearly explained a very complex, a very intertwined, very voluminous crime.. in which 8 people lost their lives, many more were involved... and you have a whole family to paint as the perpetrators.. so that they can get a successful conviction. A crime with one victim & one assailant... who have never met each other.. can need an hour long opening to establish the facts. She fit 16+ plus actors into the mix with little over half that. Besides, much of this Evidence had been blocked in the evidentiary phase.. so she had to take the opportunity to get it in. Sheesh. It isn't a simple shooting of a Stanger in a dark alley. A whole family was slaughtered. The story no doubt takes a little time.
This was a tough listen
I am from Ohio. Her presentation works for the area. This isn't Hollywood. This is a small rural area devastated by this. This is reality. Showboating won't work.
Look man, I get most real cases (not Hollywood) are slow and boring BUT this woman’s opening statement seemed like it was given by a substitute teachers first day
She doesn't have to showboat. She just needs to present it as if she knows what she's talking about. She has fumbled through the whole opening statement!
Friend of yours?
I have had root canals less painful than watching this. Had to stop watching twenty minuets in when I found myself counting um's. I am also from Ohio and no this doesn't work for this area . This doesn't work in any area.
Really? Nope! First thing they teach you not to do in speach class or debate team. Both are preparation for becoming a lawyer.
Does the court stenographer include at the UMS?? Just kidding I know that’s a negative
The defendant looks like he's straight disgusted. High chin while he looks down with just his eyes. I do believe we have a narcissist here.
I think he's just mad his family turned on each other.
One thing I can say which is not always a norm is the officers and others involved did a good job to secure evidence and find witnessed... but I do also feel that this prosecuting attorney dropped the ball and is very lucky that there's so much evidence and a plea to help prosecutors. She misspoke names of gunw, bullets, bullet projectary was off from what corner reported. A mess
21:21 Stenographer gets irritated at someone coughing
Someone is Always coughing in these trials. Lol
Haha I noticed that too
I can’t watch anymore because of the um’s. This is absolutely painful.
Ps This should also be a major lesson in why you keep your private life off social media. Especially pics and information about your children.
So just curious... Hannah Rhoden had a child with Jake Wagner and her brothers fiances brother (Charlie Gilley). Am I understanding this correct?
WAVERLY, Ohio - Angela Canepa, the lead prosecutor in the Rhoden mass slayings case, has resigned from the Ohio Attorney General's Office.
No details have been released why Canepa is leaving her job, and another prosecutor is assigned to the case.
No more, umm, umm, so, uh, 👏👏👏
I’d say she left bc of so much hate she received trying to take down a evil family
This is a very extraordinary case, maybe I have just seen to many tv lawyers give opening statements.
This just seems like way too much.
How about, “You will see that 3 different weapons were used.”? Then show that through evidence, during the trial.
This opening could have been cut to an hour long but cutting out all the evidence they're going to hear later in the trial. Especially since the jury isn't supposed to rely on the opening as evidence.
The killers said hannah was dating people who were not good. I hope you appreciate the irony of that. When you kill the person who wanted to get away from you, you prove that they were right to leave you.
They wanted Grandma to be her child's mother.
Audio should not be an option!!! This is a STATE case not federal!! Favoritism to the whiney Wagners is unbelievable
Is there Cliff Notes of this opening statement that I can read so I don't have to watch over 3 hours of her saying Ummm?
Omg her saying UM every 3 seconds is killing me. How did she pass any speech courses with all of those um’s 😮jeez
You heard right…kid’s name is actually Bovine
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
🤦🏼
💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔 for all the victims
She is so nervous, get it together lady prosecutor!! Have a shot before trial, just one. You got this 👏👏👏
I’m not sure if it’s nerves or lack of preparation. She seems to be all over the place. Forgetting parts and needing to go back and retell with the parts she’s missed.
I Live in Ohio, esp when this all occurred. As bits of info came out, it was obvious that this was a personal attack. That's when, to me, I suspected family. As far as the prosecutor? I have never heard so many 'and um', um', 'and uh's'. Very hard to follow her presentation when her delivery is broken and stuttered.
Umm... They need to pause and let the jury go watch one of the many documentaries on the killings then come back and try to listen to this story and get something out of it. 🙄 I've never been able to understand how someone could not hear themselves constantly saying uummm🤔
Let the jury watch documentaries? You clearly don’t know how trials work.
@@verynearlypure I was obviously joking LOL
@@kimmasuen4107 lol, you got me.
I'm late to know what this case is about. It is truly evil what this family did to the others. This is a hard one for the defendant's side to prove their innocence.
Whats Tabitha and Georges son called, I keep thinking shes saying bovine??? I am from the UK so im probably mishearing
Yes his name is Bovine. Bovine is also a name for a cow
No, his name is Bovine! SMH! 😂😂
@@ambersims5156 Must have been grandma making het name him that no mother in their right mind would name their children Bovine.
They planned so well but was sloppy in what they left around ..
I'm really trying not to drag this prosecutor. ...but holy ish. "There is one crime scene tech and usually a second on that assists the first one"...mam, if you keep adding these minute unnecessary details, people will tune you out. She seems very confused, uninspired, almost like she's explaining how a gluten intolerance works. Lord.
I believe her opening strategy was based on the population of the jurors in that county. If anyone has actually been to that area in Ohio, you would understand why she's breaking it down and making it simple.
Simple, but long
I'm sure this female prosecutor is an amazing attorney, but I had the worse time following her open statement. The jury had to feel the same! Very confusing as she jumped around, messed named folks, pauses etc. This lady is going mess around and get him acquitted.
Did they have court today
Am I hearing correctly? Bovine?!?
I may be late to the game, but have listened to alot of this case. As I'm watching George as the prosecutor is giving her opening statement about how they would have killed Hannah May's boyfriend had he been there, he is slightly nodding his head yes...
「明確なメッセージ、明確な構造、理解しやすい、ありがとう」、
Does this um Prosecutor not realize um how unprofessional um she sounds um as she is um speaking to be um saying the word "um" over and over again? I cringe everytime I hear um the word UM. UGH
It is very sad and very tragic that so many people lost their lives over nothing more than a custody battle. All for nothing because they were caught. Now Sofia doesn't have her Mom or Dad to be involved in her life. Very unfortunate what greed can accomplish. Nothing, absolutely NOTHING. This family is a family of MONSTERS . Far from being human with feelings!!!
A trial attorney should never say um this much.
Could you do any better would love to see it
did the prosecutor say one of the kids names was Bovine at like 54:34?? I really hope I heard that wrong.. lol
You heard correctly
Is the trial on today October 28 th
The prosecutor sounds unpracticed and unprepared. It sounds as if she has no knowledge of the case. She should have practiced and someone tell the poor lady to stop saying “um”
My gosh! What happened to district attorneys having all the ducks in a row, pictures popping up instantly as they read a well wrote and compelling opening statement . This is like she literally wrote part of it on the way to court and decided to "wing it" instead. Jeez!
He will need to take the stand to call the other family members a liar..they've all taken plea deals and added his name in the mix of it all.
I remember Jake’s wife talking on social media a long time ago… now it makes sense what she said! 😯
? Reference?
There was a lot said! Maybe not necessarily her words
Am I hearing correctly? Did someone name their child BOVINE?
Sound is not loud enough 😒
Hmmm, excuse me, what does IV mean after the last name? is it written in the ID card? I'm not an American and I don't know about it...
Roman numerals, IV is 4
That means he’s the 4th in line named George in their family for generations. So you have a senior George (his dad) and he’s the junior. But when they have more then 2 in line it goes from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on. I’m not in the states either so don’t know if they have the number on ID? But could definitely be so depending on if they put it on or not?
The 4th
She is testifying. The defense she say something. They will hear this in evidence.
No, opening statement and closing arguments are not considered evidence. That being said, her opening statement was very uninspired considering 8 people are dead.
I agree some things were so unnecessary like the 911 caller thinking they had been beaten. It's on the 911 call why did she unnecessarily explain that and so many other things. Not to mention, refraining from saying um and and can easily be learned.
No one deserves that torcher
@@brianfrancis2862 "torcher" ... really?