Pike County murder trial: Law enforcement, first responders testify about chaotic scenes
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2022
- Several law enforcement officers and emergency response workers testified in the third day of the Pike County murder trial of George Wagner IV. George Wagner IV - along with his mother Angela, father George "Billy" Wagner and brother Edward "Jake" Wagner - is accused of shooting and killing the Rhoden family members "execution-style." The family's bodies were found on April 22, 2016. He faces eight charges of aggravated murder, along with other charges associated with tampering with evidence, conspiracy and forgery.
Thank you for having these videos, I think this kind of coverage is so crucial for transparency in our legal system.
Nobody in their mind could imagine such horror. These family members are so very brave. My heart ❤ goes out to them.
I remember working in accident and emergency as a nurse.
Two sisters 18 and 21 were killed. I absolutely froze to the spot waiting for them to arrive to the unit. It was the parents that I had to deal with. I will never ever forget that incident. That was 18 years ago. Still to this day I visit the girls graves. There buried side by side.
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I just can't imagine the family finding their loved ones in the condition they were left in.
That Angela needs to get life not a piddling 30 years.
@@Patricia-rn6xy I agree. There was another case The Carnation murders. Joe McEnroe. Six family members, two were very young children, killed in their own home two days before Xmas by someone they knew...
God Bless you ma’am. I think it’s very special that you still visit the girls graves. I can’t imagine the horror you endured. Prayers ❤
@@crystalturken Thank you for your kind words.
How does a parent come to terms with the loss of two of her children on the same day.
God bless you. 🙌
That poor baby! There is evil beyond my darkest imagination! Jesus comfort this family!
How very well put Chicka Peas. I absolutely agree with you.
You have to be some kind of especially sadistic and evil to kill a mom who's nursing your own 3 day old baby. They either shot her while the baby was laying on her, or put the baby on her to nurse after they killed her. Either way it's his own child nursing off her dead mom and that is as twisted as it gets.
wasnt his own child. he wished it was, the sick fuck
That wasnt his child. The 3yr old was
But yes, absolutely evil and sick.
It was not Jake's child.
He said the baby was close to her breast so likely was breastfeeding at some point no surprise as the baby was only 3 days old.
I watched as Jake plead guilty and I could have swore he was trying hard not to smile or laugh when he plead guilty to Hannah’s murder. I’m still trying to wrap my brain around all of this.
I’m praying for all families.
I noticed that too! It looked like he fought back laughing out loud?
@@Leeleemeow I know!! I literally had to watch it again to make sure that was what I was seeing.
I listened to the prosecutor. I felt she was not to clear. Did Jake kill five?
I think him and his mother were the conspirators. That he is the main one, the narcissistic, control freak, manipulator who schemed it all up and talked his family into it. Idk about the brother or dad. One of them was the 3rd. But I havent heard enough evidence about either of those yet to decide if they were both in on it, or just one of them.
@@janewaterfield648 I think that’s what he plead guilty to but this is really insane.
Was he told to sit there and look like a murderer? Because when he looks right into the camera, he’s a scary dude.
Yes he looks very mean and evil. A sick twisted family.
Not one of them look intimidating. However, they do look like a bunch of big fat puss bitches tho.
Gruesome for the ppl who had to find and deal w/this tragic, senseless loss of life.
My heart goes out to the family, those who were left to pick up the pieces, the folks who had to find, process and photograph the grewsomely horrific (I'm sure) as well as those today an for many more who have to see this tragic mess. I'm not a few of the police, government agencies etc. But as a person, my heart goes out to them, no one should have to see this type of ugly play out in their own community.
Thank goodness for those police, EMS who set everything in motion. We could not do without these people who serve our towns. I served as a paramedic. Three deployments. Nothing prepares you for the horrors one witnesses.
my most sincere condolences to this family ♥️
Why would it take 6 years to bring this to court! Crazy
Covid happened
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@@justmeinhere5905 it happened in 2016 yes it took 2 years to get enough evidence to get charges and make a arrest in 2018 but they had 2 years after that to get trials going before Covid hit in 2020. The families of 2 murdered in 2015 waited in Washington county KY for the man that kidnapped them took them off and killed them for the trial to try to find out why he did it and he died of Covid in jail 5 years later. That's crazy to take that long especially in small towns that don't have murders taking place daily . Like the docket wasn't overloaded like maybe Chicago where dozens of murder take place almost weekly . .This also is a small rural county.
Charles Manson crimes turn my stomach but for this Piketon massacre I have no words. Thinking ahead and more specifically to Jake Wagner's forthcoming testimony how easily and suavely a definite psychopathic persona as he entertains can lie and about his brother's true reasons for accompanying him and his father on that fateful night. My question is what was the alternative for George? Did George truly not want to be involved? Was he involved in fear of his own life? I ask this as it appears that Jake was and is an unpredictable ruthless character like his mother, Angela. Will George take the stand to plead his disposition? Well whatever that may be, he remains an accessory to these murders and the former can only be argued in mitigation of sentence. It is also amazing how being incarcerated and removed from the influences suddenly invokes clarity of how wrong he was, or not? Does George also entertain a similar psychopathy as most obviously his mother, father and brother do? What would define him as being a remorseful person with a conscience? This matter is so interesting to the entire world, in my experience hereof I have never come across anything similar before. I hope that the forthcoming witnesses realise how important it is for us and USA Judiciary and Legislature to see and hear the testimony for reasons of enhancing law and setting precedents globally.
Several of the witnesses have opted out of both video and audio coverage, which the State of Ohio allows witnesses to do. The public will have to rely on what the media in the courtroom reports.
I may have some sympathy for George or maybe not. I even hope Jake can find some redemption. Cause it seems as though -those boys were born into a overly controlling demanding family. That said= I'm not sure the defense played the right cards by saying George wasn't at the crime scene. Collaborating evidence of Jake & Angela seem to indicate he was and almost wiling a participant. That said again- perhaps the defense should own up to the fact that George was there// But as a unwitting brainwashed individual- of said...umm..ha... controlling family. That may engendered some sympathy from the jury's decision. Otherwise, if they figure he's lying that won't bode well. Anyway its all way to ugly....
Carnation murders. Joseph McEnroe.
Several years ago.
He killed six family members. Two of which were young children.
A interesting case.
Probably to early to speculate
But should George take the stand?
He’ll be force to if his defense maintains
that he wasn’t at the scene,
and collaborating evidence is offered that he was.
How else can he defend his shaky honor
or hope to garner any leniency?
Nonetheless this is all to ugly,,,
@@kimberlysmith7625 would be nice if they could include the transcripts of those witnesses in these videos. And maybe have voice actors read as the attorneys and withesses. Would help soo much!
New drinking game... Take a shot every time the male prosecutor says "Walk us through..." or "Take us through..."
Little Bentley the three year old belonging to Frankie is Bentley, he said my daddy has lots of blood hes playing zombie. I hope he doesn't remember and the reality of what he saw never comes back.
Poor baby I hope she's with the victims family. Not the perpetrators
Idk it to be true but was told Angela Waggoners sister and husband got custody of Sophia and taking her to see Angela in jail . I pray the child grows up and gets as far away from the family she can and realizes that this was not done for her protection or out of love and out of control and hate toward her mother Hannah Rhoden.
@@10sherrathanks for the update. Yah doesn't sound like a great family to still be involved with.
Boohoo if you didn't want to see the pictures of their dead bodies then he shouldn't have killed them that's what he gets now you will have to look at what you've done.
Its probably not George, its his lawyer. They don't want prosecutor to keep pounding it in the jury's head how horrific the crime was.
Too horrific to even watch any longer. Demonic.
Who is the rude female who disrespectfully interrupted and corrected the judge when he referred to a witness as a juror?
I believe she should have been more respectful.
Lookup court proceedings. This person aids the judge in protocol so a mistrial can’t be claimed. The response needs to immediate. It’s not rude.
Ive never understood why they need to go into such detail regarding the officers start from the beginning of his career, how his days go, what he does first, how much gas he uses, what radio station he listens to, on and on. They seem to do this in many cases and is an overload of unnecessary information
It's testimony it goes to show the jury what kind of officer\person he is and how trustworthy he is as an Officer/witness in this case.
To show how much or not experience they've had .
So many questions that seem absolutely pointless. Like, which route did you take from your home to the scene? Were there any other officers following you or going to the scene. How were you rerouted? Just many that seem pointless and taking up time.
I imagine if you have ever had to prosecute/defend anyone in a murder trial those questions wouldn’t seem pointless to you. Especially a case of this magnitude. It always amazes me when people get on RUclips and think they know how to handle cases better than actual attorneys.
Good question. Some of those questions do seem pointless. Maybe enlighten us and tell us why such questions would be asked.
This man & the minions who took part in this plan are pure evil. You murder a mother with her baby? I hope they all rot in prison. At this point they’re all just oxygen thieves. What a gross family.
This exlawofficer has bad memory. A scene like that I would never be able to forget anyone or anything.
He may not have been able to process the horror of what he saw.To have to look upon several dead people in one day the officer/s could not believe what they are seeing.
As a paramedic with three deployments the first time I saw several dead adults and children I could not write my report. My brain froze. I fully understand the police officer.
The mom went to her husband saying they should have left their sons out of this and committed the murders themselves after George started having nightmares - I would be having nightmares too WOW
He was not having too many nightmares- he posted a wolf with a gun shot wound through the eye - which is exactly where they shot Hanna Gilley. I don’t buy that he is remorseful
I don't feel he is remorseful either ...
I had nightmares the first night I watched this case! NOT KIDDING! 😮
@@doctordoctor7813 also shot Kenneth Rhoden in the eyes
@@doctordoctor7813 you are absolutely right he never had any remorse he is absolutely guilt and if you watch when they spam over the courtroom you will see him with a grin on his ugly face
Oh my goodness. 3 day old baby and they killed her mom. This is awful how many people were murdered in this scenario.
Eight people were murdered. There was initially speculation this was a drug cartel hit, due to the discovery of a marijuana grow operation, etc., but I think some of the decedents’ family members pretty much knew who the murderers were right away.
Yes, these monsters killed her mom while breastfeeding her. They are the worse criminals you can ever know of. Life in prison for the 4 Wagner.
@@johnchaney9849 pretty good indicator for the father to pickup his child prior to the attack. They intended on killing everyone, witnesses...
@@johnchaney9849 Family members were receiving threats on Facebook from the suspects. The suspects were definitely hinting that there would be violence in this regard...
All for growing marijuana? This senseless murder was all for that? What the hell? Not that there’s any given reason for murder whatsoever. 😣
Good God. This is too much for any one person to endure.
The dude looks like a real creep.
OMG… 3 days old?? What a wicked monster to kill your baby’s mama like that. Sick!
Jake was not the father of the 3 day old baby but was the father of Sophia which was 2 at the time. The Waggys had wanted her to sign over her rights to Jake and Hannah had posted 5 months earlier in FB ti a friend about it and said they would have to kill her first , they started planning it waiting until the baby was born. They wanted to look like good people that wouldn't hurt a child yet they murdered the parents of 3 and left them lying in the bed with their dead parents in blood. They even turned Hannah back on her side and placed the baby to her breast so it could finish nursing which is what she was in the middle of doing when they shot her . Lower than snakes they don't deserve to breathe.
❤️🙏🏽🕊I am so sorry for the loss of your loved ones. May God keep you and comfort you. 😔
Mr. Dickerson is even having a difficult time viewing and reliving the events of that day. I feel for him. I'm sure those images will be embedded in his brain until the day he dies, especially the ones of a young mother like Hannah with her baby at her breast.
Wow... I can't even think of any other words.
The Director did well even though he was badgered by defense.
Punish these people to the fullest extent of the law.
I believe that these kind of people should be released to the hands of families. They are the ones who deserve to serve the justice.
Every sinister case.
Anybody know if they are allowing the Public into the trial? Is this trial in Piketon Ohio? Doesn't look like very many people besides family. I'm currently 2 1/2 hrs from Piketon. Would be interesting to see crime scene photos.
The trial is in Waverly Ohio the county seat…. Not sure if it is open to the public but I doubt it is bc I too only see family… I am 40 minutes away and was wondering the same thing
Crime scene photos are only being showed to the jury for the protection of those children . Going to bad enough for them to grow up to find out they were found with blood all over them while in bed with their parents much less to see a photo .
So, was George Jr born with a permanent scowl?
What kind of law officer was he? Not questioning anyone?
How do they get into the home with out some one in the home not hearing them enter and if she is brest feeding she doesn't realize someone is coming through the house or did they put the baby and Hannah in that position to make look like she was breast feeding and she was really asleep with the baby close them shot her then put the baby like that so it could feed just trying to figure out why or how nobody got up at all Frankie and is wife never heard someone come in they have these mean dogs everywhere I'm mean something had to wake someone up
Further to my comment below, I strenuously disbelieve that child custody was the sole motive for these murders. As the matter enfolds, it becomes evident that there must have been far more acrimony specifically present between the Rhoden and Wagner families, which led to these crimes.
Off topic sort of, but the way you convey your opinion, even in a simple comments section is surprising! Lol you sound like a professor giving a perfect written exam. 🙂🤗👏
I think the time the wagners were there with the back hoe might be a clue.
I honestly can't imagine that it's only the custody that caused this. The baby was only 3 days old, they hadn't even gotten to court yet. I think the weed had something to do with it too.
@@tiffanyholman4028 wrong baby
Drug territory. This was all over drugs, money, and eliminating your competition. The custody issue was just icing on the cake
I'm looking at George #1 jawline he's grinding his teeth, cutting sharp eyes
Also during photos he's staring off to his left without blinking as if he's reliving a situation in his head
I dunno.
My heart breaks for all the children in these families.
May God give them Peace.
I wonder if he was reliving it with Mr Stone
The camera focusing on the defendant the whole time is super annoying, especially when there are photographs being shown and witnesses testifying, but all the camera shows is the defendant.
They won't release or show the Crime Scene photos.. The State of Ohio won't allow that either.. I get what you mean by the Camera focusing on one spot tho, Comparing it to the Parkland Shooter Case.. It's a lot lower of a production than that one, But justice is the only thing that matters.. This tragic murder shook our little county, and the whole state.
Crime scene photos are typically shown to the gen pop in criminal cases
With the exception of gruesome pics of the victims at the scene, autopsy pics or pics of the decedent's. Other evidence will continue to come in. Phone records, crime scene pics of the residence, guns, correspondence between the perps, shoe impressions, etc...
Personally the descriptions via testimony is enough. It resonates inside my minds eye. No crime scene photo would change my perception or understanding. I feel it is unnecessary.
Sometimes the camera focuses on the defendant or others because the witness or person testifying doesn't want to be on camera and has the right not to be photographed or on video. Other situations include officers that are testifying were undercover or currently in an undercover investigation
I’ve watched numerous other murder trials where they would show witnesses speaking, asking about photos and just not show the photos. This trial, the camera would stay focused on the defendant with an occasional slow span of the folks sitting behind him. It’s incredibly frustrating just watching him and not the speaker.
Some of the people don't want to be on camera during their testimony. Some don't even want their voice on audio, and we see just a dark screen and we hear nothing.
@@Curious-Irish-Angel undercover makes so much sense and maybe the witnesses that were scared to come forward who maybe had some information l, clearly people knew things and told law enforcement that we don’t know.. clearly the evidence that can be pushed out to the public will be released, I’m talking about the photos taken of the bodies on scene, and autopsy… that won’t be released. Unless they show pics of the rooms with a glimpse of the body in frame.
Body language speaks volumes
I am confused as to how the Court hearing change from one victim Ken Rodent to this murder scenes with three murdered victims Christopher and two females and baby.
Why is George Wagner the only one on trial and charged with the death penalty.
I know he sided in the killings, and his brother Jake and his mom both said he did not kill anyone , so why wasn't the others in trial
All of the First Responders, investigators, EMS, Sheriff, Police, CPS have done one amazing job piecing this horror all together. Such a tragedy. I give thanks that this families of the vidtims have held strong against such demonic actions by this crazy family. Lethal injection or a firing squad would be my recommendations.
They got spared when Jake agreed to confess in exchange for none to get get the death penalty . They don't deserve to breathe.
This camera person is horrible
So evil 😢
What kind of trial doesn’t show photos of evidence ! Terrible
You mean publicly ? . These children will grow up they don't ever need to see photos of how they laid against the bodies of their dead parents. We as the public doesn't need to see them
Did this brother move to Alaska with his family?
Yes! They all moved there.
PIKE County??? Based on CONVERSATION??? No Wonder the judge states over and over again and again that no other county IS involved . Is Mr De -Wine over the 'other' county? I just wonder!!! In my opinion, it is NOT the same county!!!
So far the defense hasn’t asked any meaningful questions, why bother?
Pretty hard to do when Jake has told the jurors how it all happened who he killed and so forth . How do you find any defense with so much evidence and testimony against them ? Darrell Brooks that killed all those in the Christmas parade had no defense when he was seen on multiple cameras running through it swerving into groups never braking or stopping . Hard to deny or defend what you see yourself doing just that and all the footage caught on Ring before and afterwards .
Real smart. Now the child is motherless n fatherless.
What would he have to gain killing this family?? He wasn't fighting for custody 🤨
He wasn't fighting for custody because a lawyer told him he'd never get it, because here in Ohio it's hard to take away custody from the mother . Therefore they killed all the family to make sure they'd get custody if they never got caught.
@@ItisWhatItis_1 "IF" they never got caught but that would mean they actually thought they could get away with not one but EIGHT cold blooded murders - that's just unbelievable - now they've left those babies without parents and grandparents - this is horrific and just beyond words ... my heartaches for the Rhoden family, may God comfort them ...
Why would he do it? Loyalty to his family if nothing eles!! It sounds like to me the mother messed up their family good!!
@@ItisWhatItis_1 so the plan was to get custody and take the baby to prison with them? 🙄They are the most stupid people ever.
@@lisaendress724 I find it bothersome that this murdering family all thought the same. The only answer was to kill eight people. Utterly stupid. Their drive was that overwhelming that the rest of their lives in jail paid no heed whatsoever. All for absolutely nothing.
You have to be a very nasty person to defend someone who killed 8 people.
Not if it is your job.
They getting paid to do nothing since it's known they did it.
Brenda, you must have forgotten your comment under a different video about the murder victims. You insulated that they weren't good people because they "grew & sold weed". Pick a persona, and stick with it. 🙄
I agree. They don't deserve a defense attorney but the law says they have to have one. Sadly. I wouldn't want to be a defense attorney for sure. Especially in this case.
Vile evil human being and all involved.
You did better than me cby calling them human beings at this point . Lower than snakes that don't deserve the air they breathe
I don’t understand this whole thing over one child? All these people involved from both sides…Is she the Golden Child? Does she have super powers? Just don’t make sense, there has to be more to it
How horrific Mt heart goes out to the family..
The other brother admitted to 5 killings. Which 5 persons did he say he killed?
If you take a look at the transcript of the prosecutors opening remarks, you can see what Jake told them. His dad apparently shot two of the men. WCPO 9 aired this a couple of days ago. It’s on RUclips.
@@johnchaney9849 Thanks.
I thought the dad may also wanted in on the action. He probably instigated the boys and now are throwing them under the bus by not admitting his role. I do not have words to describe people like him.
@@johnchaney9849 By the way, did they mention which two he allegedly shot. I am just curious as to which one of the family decided to shoot whom. Would Jake have wanted to shoot the mother of his child himself?
Jake says he killed his daughter's mother, this case just has me in disbelief that they could have murdered 8 human beings over a custody dispute - I have disagreed with custody issues regarding several children in my family but never thought murder would make matters better for anyone involved - I can't believe they thought they would never get caught wth
@@pietekoo5559 It’s my understanding Billy, the father, shot Chris R. Sr., Gary R. and Kenneth. I think Jake also shot Chris through the door. When I went back to the video, I couldn’t find the transcript, but the prosecutor explains what Jake told them.
This is a special kind of EVIL to do as they did. God Bless the survivors.
This is the 3 video I have watched about this crime and had only saw a news report when it happened. I am really confused, they killed everyone in Dana’s house except the baby, I would guess because they wanted to make sure there weren’t any witnesses. But, why did they kill all those other people?
It seems they were trying to knock off Hannah's whole side of the family to ensure that the Wagner's would end up with custody of the little girl.
Apparently they didn't think it through too good because now that poo child has nobody on either side.
@@justkim9827 So very tragic. A whole family dead. A whole family will be in jail for many, many years or life. ( They deserve to be) Pointless.
Watch the prosecutor’s opening statement. She explains it well if you can thru all her “ums”.
@@justkim9827
Exactly!
They wanted no one left to get custody of Sophia the 2 year old child of Jake's and Hannah's. Word is Angela Waggoners sister and husband got custody of Sophia. The 3 day old infant wasn't even Jake's like he thought even though Hannah told him it wasn't . They had wanted Hannah to sign over rights of Sophia . Hannah refused she posted on FB to a friend they would have to kill her first . Lower than snakes .
Wat sort of a human can do this.... Evel .l hope ho ever is involved in this .but in a box with no phone no visitors because the people they killed will never get a visitors.l must say if the defence prove wat they said this guy walks
They were inbreds
Thid guy isn't walking. His brother and mom that helped are testifying against him. Their all going away for a long time.
He ain’t going to walking no where but his jail cell for the rest of his miserable life ! You can bet on that .
@@ItisWhatItis_1 Is this monster saying he wasn't there that night at all? while the state has evidence of him preparing to be there? I think I was mixing up the brothers for a bit.. He isn't the one that was into Norman Redus right? Dressing up like a Boondock saints character and all.
Jake has stated his brother didn't kill anyone, but he was tnere.
Is THIS WHY Mr Wagner has been nigh to more than four years has NOT been released to go HOME ??? Is this Mike De - Wine with 9 children that USED to be Republican Senator of Ohio??? Very interesting !!! SO is the 'Special' Lawyer (female) for the other District (Pike or other)???
It bothers me that they exploited Hannah May to the whole court room after saying she was bare breasted & breast feeding just so they can proove a pacifier in the bed...wtf??? We all would of believed it without them using that poor young mother that way. It is a horror tactic on the jury ( don't get me wrong, I want the Wagners to pay but do they have to use this young mothers naked, slain body this way? Where is the respect?)
He had to describe how he found her. Her breast out and the baby close likely the baby was breastfeeding. I don't
Feel it's disrespectful to state the fact. If he had asked the size of her breast then that definitely would have been very disrespectful
As an RN I find breastfeeding natural; you would expect a three day old baby to be breastfeeding!
Nothing wrong or abnormal to discuss this!
@@deborahbeaudoinzaki8019 you do realize this isn't normal breastfeeding talk right? Jake W. killed a woman who was the mother of his 1st born & believed the 2nd born was his till tests after her death proved it wasn't and he killed her next to a 3day old baby and rolled her over so her DEAD body can breastfeed that baby! The DA (whose side I'm on) showed a pic of her bare breasted to the jury and courtroom solely to prove a pacifier in the bed!!!! My comment is "they didn't have to exploit this young woman to prove that!" Now shut the F up!!!
It was UNecessary
I understand what your saying but they have to take photos of the scene and since they didn't have one with the baby in it as they removed the baby first they do have to prove that the baby was in fact in the bed . Defense could say their was no proof the baby was in the bed. Burden of proof is on DA . I personally don't think it was necessary as the jury probably had no doubt or reason not to believe what responders found.
So sad this happened to these folks ...don't understand the people's idea with what they were thinking the outcome would be doing such a thing
What is gonna happen to Sophie when she learns the ttuth???
Does George only have 1 dress outfit?he has literally worn the exact same outfit for the entire time it seems like.
i guess he could go shopping, eh ?
This courthouse looks like a hodpodge of salvation army, Good Will rejects just thrown together, willy-nilly. It looks like random desks, deacons benches, folding chairs, wiring hanging every which way, gauges out of the walls. I guess they don't include courthouse maintenance in their budget1
Pike County Courthouse is very small, and they don't have a lot of money to fix it up. They had to have outside help from detectives and dealing with evidence. Plus a couple years ago the sheriff got in trouble for embezzling so that's pretty much why it looks like that.
For being a poor county, the chairs that the family are sitting in are expensive, unless they were donated.
I noticed that as well. I've watched a lot of Court tv and never have seen a room looking that bad?? WTH. Just looks so unprofessional
I really dont think it’s a very busy area. It’s at the foothills of the Appalachian mountains I think..
This is a very poor county they can't afford the best like some counties . I live in a small town and believe me it's a old courthouse filled with old stuff and smells as old as it is . They are lucky to keep the place clean . Its depressing just to go in when I have to . I couldn't imagine having to work their daily .
WOW, Can you imagine....well, I would think that the 'same' would be 'FOR' Mr. Wagner, would you not??? 4 Plus Years, he has NOT been home but IN JAIL!!! So, it looks like the Sheriff is useless??? Well, I would be furious!!! This is one of the most botched up pile of pooh that I have ever seen :(
I don't how. They got in. The. Home. If. Its locked and did nt
Get up or. Hear. Anything 😢😢
His lawyer looks completely bored
To think that having control of your grandchild's life, and her well being has more worth than 8 other lives is not love, it's ultimately evil.
I was at Dunkin donuts getting donuts for my guys........I went north for 3 miles on union hill drive then took a right.......we could tell the door was unlocked...... and when we entered the room I went over here to clear it.........now that area was secure......and my partner told me to.......
*80 mins later stfu and tell us something really relative to the case already!!*
I think this case is horrific and I pray for this family to heal. With that being said, the woman prosecutor seems like she got her law degree from a Cracker Jack Box. She is very unprepared
She didn't do a great job on the opening statement, that's for sure. I couldn't BELIEVE when I heard that she forgot a "profile" for Kenneth, when she showed each of them to the jury. Yikes.
I agree❗
I agree, sometimes I have to turn ummmm off my phone and ummmm walk away
We are talking about the poorest county in Ohio a place where so much is limited and a place where prosecutors doesn't have a lot of experience with not having such a case like this . They are not 6 attorneys limited amount of money . I'm sure if we looked back at the Charlie Mansons trial we wouldn't think they were very good at it as well .
Are the defendants in all of these murder trials being represented by court appointed attorneys???
2 confessed and agreed to testify against brother and father and the creature Angela agreed to testify against her husband and one son George . Jake that killed 5 was her favorite son.
If he was trying to gain custody of the baby why didn’t he take the baby with him? This doesn’t add up
First off the baby wasn't his only 2 year old Sophia who they wanted Hannah to sign over her rights to Jake , she refused she had posted 5 months before on FB that they'd have to kill her first. They started planning it then waiting until Hannah had the baby . The 3 day old baby was Not Jake's .if had taken the baby don't you think they knew they'd be caught having the baby this was over Sophia not the baby. Jake was told the baby was not his .
This prosecutor and the defense attorneys could never do a trial of this magnitude n a big cosmopolitan city like Los Angeles, or New York!! This prosecutor can't even look professional for court let alone how she questions.. horrendous.!!!!
I'd say being a poor county and where they are in this world really is a factor but then go back and watch the Charlie Mansons trial they weren't too polished neither. They get low wages compared to others so they can't afford 6 prosecutors like in other high profiled cases .
Get a prosecutor up there that can ask coherent questions. Round and round she goes asking questions that are, at best, peripheral.
I do agree she says I’m a lot but how do you know what she should or shouldn’t say? What year did you pass the bar? What was the biggest case you ever prosecuted? Surely you have experience since you feel you can critique the prosecutor on the job she’s doing.
Why were the two instigators Jake and his mom allowed to plead and the two followers, the dad and the brother left to stand trial. Without jake and his mom these horrific ctimes wouldnt have happened in the first place. Did the state really need these two evil people to convict the other two?
I agree they could have proven this without giving Jake the plea to take the death penalty off the table for them all . They don't deserve to breathe . Lower than snakes.
Who got Sofia custody now ?
Word is Angela Waggoners sister and her husband got custody. That was why they killed so many of the Rhoden family to wipe out a chance for anyone in the Rhoden family get custody. Sad the state would place her with any Waggoner family instead adopt her out .
This is horrible. Was it about the baby or was it about the marijuana
Some people must answer for this period.A 3 day old baby executions occured that is very very personal.May justice be served and God judge come the day.
The baby was not murdered.
That drawing behind the judge should have a picture of " lady justice ⚖️ holding a scale " not " a bible.
I thought it is a book of law that she is holding
Slowpoking detail..
Why don't they show pictures to people?
I don’t want to see this horrible crime when I close my eyes at night
Probably out of respect to the survivors/family.
Nooo 3 children laying next to the dead . Those children will grow up , they never need to see them once public they'd have access. None of us need to see such horrific pictures to prove to us the public that these policemen are telling the truth.
These attorneys, prosecutors ask such stupid questions and they seem very inarticulate. Maybe I’ve watched too much tv with the slick law court shows. What does it matter who drives the 🚑 ambulance, how many ambulances and who’s driving. Get to the point, is there a question here. If I was on the jury I’d be so bored by now I’d have switched off. Maybe that’s their defence bore the jury.
Absolutely but I believe a lot of that took place before the jurors entered the room
Very poor county
Where was Sophie this whole time?
At the Waggys
I guess when push comes to shove family ties don't mean much to this family 😁😁😂😂
Actually, they knew that any surviving family members would likely deal with the murderers themselves.
if the wagners though they could have gotten away with it they would have stolen the children! The Hills Have Eyes type family
1:30:00 This lady is 'doing it' at progressing in her career.👏👍🧠📚💻
AND. Ummmm I hope you ummmm don't mean the ummmm prosecutor
She's isn't earning the money those townppl pay in ummmm taxes
There's more to this story then what meets the eye...The Custody situation was part of the problem...but not bad enough to kill 8 people from the same family... Something bad lead up to it...When murder does occur during a Custody battle..it's normally one of the parents...not 8 members of the same family... because 7 of the members wouldn't be a threat cause they have no say in any courtroom.. Everything I've learned so far about Jake and Hannah...both of them never had any issues with child abuse..Jake did say that Hannah was hanging around shady characters...But I'm sure she could say the same about him...look at his family and what they help do...Murder...Yes the custody thing had a little part in the Murders..let's say it fueled the fire that was really going on between both families...think about it....8 people
I agree.
The mentality of the murderers was such that they knew justice would come through the surviving members of Hannah's family. I do wonder if the sequence of the murders was established. Were the parents murdered first?
Drug territory. Drugs, money and eliminating the competition... The custody issue was just icing on the cake
Mercedes...there are COuntless cases where there is custody or divorce and the person murders the EXs family. People that are cruel and heartless don't need a reasons.
Who are you listening to the snake mother Angela who claimed that they got along about Sophia ? They wanted Hannah to sign over her rights 5 months prior and Hannah stated they'd have to kill her first. They act like they are so good to wait until she had the baby then spare the children . The creature mother Angela was obsessed about Sophia not being around the Rhoden family since Sophia had been born .
May God save your soul.
Welcome to the court hearing .yes I was able to watch the very first hearing and when the witness was question ⁉️⁉️⁉️❓ by the Precectcutor I was in tears just watching the witness sub crying he was very imostional after all was his cousin that was shot to death.. hope who ever did it that person deserves to be jailed..if the investigation is terrily Investigate and gets the fact . other's wise the both party can't gets peace.. sorry to all of you and have to go through this.. Peace
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THAT GUY WENT FROM A NEW BE TO A SERGENT IN FOUR MONTHS, I WONDER WHO'S BOOTS HE HAD TO LICK? FOUR MONTHS.. NEW GUY COMES PRANCING IN.. & IN 4 MONTHS HE'S YOUR BOSS.ARE THEY PULLING NUMBERS FROM A HAT TO PICK THE TOP GUY. OR MAKING BETS ON WHO'S NAMES AREN'T GOING TO MAKE IT INTO THE HAT.
Nice try…what In your opinion is the “proper” amount of experience to respond to this kind of violence of a police officer? Will you interview a officer responding to a call to save your life if needed? I think not.