Pike County murder trial: Jake's ex-wife takes the stand in trial of George Wagner IV
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2022
- Elizabeth Armer, the woman who married Jake Wagner in Alaska and moved back with the family to Ohio, took the witness stand Friday, describing her time living in the family's home two years after eight members of the Rhoden family were murdered in Pike County. After only three months, she said she was threatened, and fled the family. READ SUMMARY HERE: bit.ly/3F6ubAZ
So her police officer 'friend' says call if you need help, she calls, needing help after being threatened, and he tells her she's being 'emotional' and wants to talk to the person threatening her. Thats a crappy friend and it's terrifying that he's a police officer.
That part was truly awful. Then people will say things about victims of abuse like "wHy DiDn'T sHe JuSt lEaVe?" Some people have no support system to leave. The abuser(s) can be excellent at manipulating others outside of the situation although this "friend" seemed to have already decided that she was over reacting and "emotional." 🤦♀️
He was awfulllll
I think this moron also vouched for the Wagners when Jake proposed to her. He's either just as corrupt as they are or he's a blithering idiot. Or both. He must be the crappies cop in AK.
@@marythomas1198 she was probably terrified.
I'm guessing that cop made the offer so he could keep official reports from being filed & head off any "trouble" coming to the family. Crooked sheriff too.
This young woman makes my heart hurt. She is beautiful and gentle and clearly introspective and well spoken. What a terrible situation she found herself in.
She beautiful and obviously well educated. I'M sure that she will be a very successful business woman what ever she does.This family should all rot in Hell!!!
Beautiful?????, her kite is fucked. And that fucking wig is dead as fuck to.
Proof that narcisstic monsters (Jake) can be utterly charming and polite when wooing and painting their bs in broad strokes. Once they get control, their true nature rises, glad this well educated, well-spoken, sweet and honest woman was able to get out asap.
The entire Wagner family is deranged, violent, sociopathic, stupid, greedy and ultra-controlling. Especially the males.
Thats why you dont jump in the car with the first guy that comes along....SCARY!!!
@@throatpunch4789 WHO DID THAT?-
JUMP IN A CAR WITH A STR NERVE
Elizabeth possess all the characters this murderous family lacks. Strong and honest she is. I wish her all the best for the rest of her life.
THE TRUTH WILL SET US FREE....THE WAGNERS WERE TRYING TO BE SO CAREFUL BECAUSE RHEY WERE 😔 😭 GUILTY! MAKING SURE THEY KEPT JAKE'S WIFE LIKE A 👍 PRISONER....
BUT SOONER OR LATER SHE LET THE WAGNERS
HAVE IT....WHAT MADE THEM 🤔 THINK THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH MURDERING 8MEMBERS OF A FAMILY, WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING 🤔..,
I AM NOT SORRY THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR CRIME, AND I STILL DON'T THINK THAT IS ENOUGH !
3 PEOPLE KILLED 8
IN A VERY SHORT TIME, SO THEY CAN SPEND THE REST OF THEIR LIVES 🔐 UP...TO WONDER IF THAT WAS A VERY GOOOD IDEA....ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE
DONE😉.............
have a good 👍rest of your lives WAGNERS!!
For real For real 💯
Agreed!
So beautifully said thank you for sharing
👍🏻 yep, she is a decent human, sad she got saddled with that family of scum
What an outstanding witness. This woman was the true definition of a star witness. No matter what she went through, they couldn’t get to her. She got on the stand she painted a painfully detailed portrait of just how f*cked up this family was.
I agree…Didn’t they say she was “weird”.. no she was the only one in that family that seemed to know what it meant to provide for the emotional needs of the children…and wasn’t allowed to do so. That adds even more stress. 😔
I agree 💯🎯✔️
She sure did!
@@ivdddoxiemama7275 I think the old judge is just too cautious. He’s just too cautious he would never do under Brooks trial.
@@challanger275 most judges would have demanded Brooke's respect the court... never disrespect the court and make a mockery as he did. Grounds! 🤦♀️
She was so nervous but so brave during the testimony. How did she end up living with such terrible people?
She married Jake.
Probably had no place else to go or was scared
Wonder that too. Where were her family and friends when she was making that choice to marry someone she barely knew. Feel like she’s perhaps had a sheltered life.
My heart goes out to this brave young lady. I hope she goes on to have a happy healthy n productive life, she is so lucky she got away from those monsters.
At some point her life would indeed have been in danger had she not been able to get away from them. I believe Angela would have sealed her fate. She is, without a doubt, the manipulator responsible for the murder of 8 people. To have been given only 30 years behind bars is a travesty of justice!
Yes!
@@leotachaney7322 she will die before ever being released no one in prison lives up into there late eighties, it sounds like she"s getting a brake but she's already in her fifties.
@@therealz360z7 charles manson was 83 when he died in prison so ur comment is ignorant because there’s ppl over 80 in prison not everyone dies before 80 😂
Bullvine is an awful name for a child. He isn’t an animal.
I thought the same thing
His awful father must have named him
If I was her I'd change it fast
I really like Beth Ann. Wow she was amazing. The defense couldn’t put a crack in her. Way to be strong 💪🏻 Beth Ann and strong minded to get the hell out of dodge!! You saved your own life. You have made many women proud.
Is Beth Ann the prosecutor ?
@@readg4fun Beth Ann is the warrior that survived and testified against that diabolical EVIL family of killers - she was married to Jake so Beth Ann was the witness ... the prosecutor never lived with this extremely deranged family ...
@@readg4fun No she is Jake's ex wife married 3 months to him after they had killed the Rhodens and she met Jake a year later in 2017
Absolutely! She is lucky to be alive! Strong lady!
I watch a lot of court cases and this young lady is the best witness I have ever seen take the stand.
I agree…..A real superstar. She put you there! George just got found guilty!
She knocked it out of the park. She and Tabitha. I am so proud of both these ladies and send them all my care and respect.
I second that! This “family” were controlling predators… I bet it is burning them all up that these ladies have the courage to speak up!
amen !
the way the brother of Angela and his wife depicted this woman was that she was strange or weird I thought she did an amazing job recognizing how crazy the Wagners are and getting herself to safety! I pray this young lady and Tabitha can get some form of normalcy back once ALL the Wagners are sentenced to life
I can't even imagine being part of this family I would have NEVER been able to have a goodnight sleep. I just don't understand this family. It's like the Mother was the boss n ran the show, she had Billy, George, & Jake do what she wanted when she wanted. I can't imagine being treated like these 2 poor girls.
I feel like chris Newcomb got ALOT OF explaining to do
Elizabeth Armer is the Bomb. Imagine what she's been through. imaging growing up in an Amish Mennonite community , safe and secluded than moving out to Alaska to run into the Wagner family. Is there anything worse that could happen?
People found her behavior strange. If only they knew what they know now. What she went through during those few months. Mentally abused, being accused, threatened, checked spied on by in-laws and their family members, her husband.
To see BethAnn in court today; fragile but strong, convincing and sincerely answering every question. I believe she will be one of the key witnesses in all Wagner trials.
demonic group of evil freaks
You have hit the nail on the head Thank you I hope previous witnesses against Beth give their head a shake!
Armish…. That explains her total obedience 😢, I hope she has become a truely autonomous strong women.
How the hell did Jake ever get this sweet, respectful, articulate young lady??
Slim pickings in some parts.
Met in church. He played the part expected. Thank goodness she got out. Angela Wagner was running her own abusive cult
I wondered the same. So well spoken and classy.
Because deep inside she has some of the same traits he does. It's just some people know how to tame their demons.
She was a mennonite, probably didnt know better, not out there in life knowing how things were. I would think shed pick someone of her same religion, unless they are also same religion
This young woman speaks so gently, so eloquently, and forms her thoughts concisely and artfully. If she wrote a book about her experience - I would buy it. I hope she does write a book.
I would love to read it.I may need therapy afterwards I'm sure.
She doesn't have thoughts. No need. This is just the live version of what she and the prosecution have been rehearsing for weeks. Every answer has adding info to then perfectly tee up the next question she's not meant to know obviously
I hope someone writes a book.
@@EFFEZE so what are you saying?
Yes I hope she finds some healing
I could listen to her explain how paint dries, for hours. What a calm, well spoken, eloquent woman. I wish her peace in her future.
Yes! She would be great with audio books!
She’s on tiktok
@@sadmonkey9920 what is her name?
@@emilymoore7164 elizabetharmer
@@emilymoore7164 Elizabeth ( Beth Ann) Armer.
Wow. What a testimony. She is lucky to have survived. God bless her 10 fold.
Wow, wow, wow! She is not only poised under pressure, but she is an insightful young woman. Her journal entries about Angela's dysfunctional personality and behavior were spot on.
Clearly she was raised in an emotionally balanced environment. She was able to see their bizarre family life for exactly that.
I hope nothing but the best for her life going forward.
What a lovely, soft spoken young lady. She prevailed against an entire family of murderers, including the world's worst mother-in-law.
George is sitting there laughing. Boy I swear. They should ALL got Death Penalty. The audacity too sit in that court room. And smirk. Shows just how narcissist they are.
Right! And his lawyer laughing with him. Completely disgusting
George isn't laughing today 12/20/22
@@patrickmann1777 Definitely still not laughing today 3/6/24
She’s so articulate. I hope she writes a book!
She really is! They must have targeted her thinking she was a pushover & easy to manipulate. They sure as hell panicked when she pointed out the picture with jakes hand on the gun, and I would bet ( imo) she had a huge target on her back from that point forward. Her eyes were wide open and Angela wasn’t having any of that.
@@Herewearenowentertainus Angela not into reading yet she homeschooled her sons?
@@spicyirwin5835 Great homeschooling evidenced by their speech: I done knowed she was lyin'
@@spicyirwin5835 says a lot doesn't it!
I was thinking she should be an author too!
The horrors that this young lady endured is just unreal! If someone accused me of inappropriate touching a toddler I couldn't take them seriously that's the worst accusation you can make and apparently Angela likes to make sick accusations like that! Or poisoning people it seems she claimed both daughter in laws of crazy stuff like this and her dumbass sons didn't seemed to think it was a weird coincidence that Angela made claims like this of both daughter in laws.
She does this taint the spouses in the minds of her sons. She’s really really twisted & beyond evil. Sometimes there are truly no words.
Accuse others of what your doing...example someone always accusing someone of cheating the accuser is most time cheating...
Angela seems to be envious of other women. Views them as competition. Has to be the center of attention. Felt those gals diluted her power. Insecurity demands respect, instead of earning it. Angela is a piece of work.
@@maryfitzpatrick3252 I know someone just like her, walking time knob… 😱🤮
@@msmith7472 I wonder if she SA’d her sons or the grandkids. She loves throwing that around. A lot of projection on her part.
If you read this Elizabeth, hold your head high young lady. You did a fantastic job as a witness. I am honored to have witnessed your courage and intelligent manner. God Bless!
Mad respect for Ms Arner. She was oustanding. Extremely well read and wonderful presence. I hope she goes on to great things!!
Tabitha and Beth did a fantastic job on the stand. They are also survivors of the Wagner family. Hannah Rhoden was equally as strong and intelligent to get out of the dysfunctional relationship with Jake. Sadly, her life as well as her family's life were taken by the Wagners because she would not allow them to control her. She was an incredibly strong 19 year old woman. RIP to the 8 human beings that lost their lives by a family of pure evil!
Hannah was not strong. She was a freeloader
@@BobSmith-ll9ol worry about your bald headed ass, Bob and leave the sane folks to talk.
@@BobSmith-ll9ol WHY do you say that? Were you supporting her?
Tabbitha escaped within an inch of her life, like Elizabeth did. The Wagner's threatened to beat her to death with a baseball bat wrapped with razor sharp barbed wire, named Lucille.
The Wagner's are cold blooded killers that will never change their spots. I can't help but to think Angela was abusing Bulvine and Sophia to make it appear Beth was abusing them sexually and immediately make her an enemy. Jake wanted a love interest and Angela was too jealous to even let Beth out of her sight. Angela imo was so obsessed with controlling her family, she was willing to let them go to jail or die by lethal injection all in the name of the family cult (ure) and control.
@ Bob Smith, how do u figure?Sounds like you have a problem w/Hannah Roden? What could that possibly be? After all that poor girl is dead!
Since Angela has a habit of accusing other women of inappropriate touching it makes me wonder if this is something she does. It’s often the case as in when a spouse is having an affair they accuse their partner of the same behaviour. It seems to be something she’s obsessed with.
I honestly think she was inappropriate with her sons. She used to get into bed with her married son George, whilst he and his wife lived in Angela's house, and would rub his back at night. Angela also seems obsessed with the sex lives of her sons. Angela seems to be an all out creepy, controlling, sex obsessed weirdo.
Definitely what I’ve always thought. She has easy access and makes the kids sleep with her…weird. Or they all used the kids for that…
And what about Angela sleeping with the little boy! Wonder about that!!!
Exactly what I thought
That is exactly what I'm thinking is going on and Angela is afraid those babies will tell on her if they are allowed to have a NORMAL relationship with any other adults
Jake sounds scary. He promised not to consummate their marriage on their wedding night and broke his promise. She mentioned that it was inappropriate to be intimate while his daughter was in the bedroom with them and again he didn’t care. Sounds like he as selfish as the rest of the family.
Tabby was 11 but Hannah had proof they had sex & in Calif that would be rape. Adults dont have sex with kids.
I kept thinking, isn't that rape?
@@CDMButterfly yes it most certainly is.😊
@@CDMButterfly yes it seams she was raped multiple times.
Also she said he wanted the little girl in bed with them,.
This is a very strong woman who should never have been with these horrific morons. They fooled her innocent person into believing they were good people and then once she got into their horrible lives she just wanted to get the hell out. She is such a calm and honest witness, there is no disputing that, and I hope she is happy now, she deserves to be. Good for her that they couldnt get to her, she is a hero....and lucky to still be alive apparently !!
Totally agree
That is exactly what they are morons !!!!!!! Perfect word to describe them . They seriously talked about bulldozing their way out of jail . What in the red neck heck was going on in that house. This women is a beautiful and articulate soul who got manipulated into thinking that they were the complete opposite of what they really are at first . And it didn’t take too long for her to see right through them . She’s very intuitive intelligent, calm , and kind . She seen things at every angle before they could even start . And it’s just fascinating how she could remember things the way she did .
Cause Angela’s son were in on it. It was a ploy.
What a sweet voice she has. It’s so horrible that she came into contact with such evil folks. I certainly hope she can escape fully in her mind from what happened, and that she will have a blessed future and life with good people.
Some friend. I can't imagine how she felt when her friend sided with Jake. I hope he's remorseful knowing now that Jake killed so many
So that cop, Friend, pastor of church, I knew for some reason they knew the wagoners from church.
I think they knew them from something
They had money and land she didn't that counts in my crooked County
How do you feel NOW "Friend" who was a COP and had a woman call you terrified asking for help and you left her with a group of killers and told her she was "Emotional"... another example of minimizing a woman's voice and it could have cost her life! If you're reading this I hope you're ashamed of yourself.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
He the cop, apparently made friends with these hood-country people.
Pissed me.off
That part was incredibly sickening.
Angela definitely controlled that household.
Beth, I and Many Others are very happy to see that you got away from this batch of evil people. I do believe had you not been rescued by your family and friends you would have suffered a similar fate as the Rhoden family. Stay well and prosper in your new life!
Wow, that ex-police officer either wasn't a good friend or he wasn't a good cop. She's lucky that call didn't seal her fate with Jake.
does George realize the jury sees him when he is giggling and making light of any woman in the court room?
I'm sure his attorney's told him how to act because he is on camera
George can only see through his own narrow lens. Very clouded and distorted.
That had to be a living nightmare! First your accused of something so sick and disturbing that most people couldn't take her seriously but instead of Jake seeing this is a pattern of mom's delusions he threatened to kill her! These are the worst people imaginable.
Monkey see. Monkey 🙊 do.
I'm thinking Angela may be mentally ill. It's like she makes up stuff in her mind.
@@brendaechols5929 Her life lacked importance and drama. So she made up her own. Evil 😈 drama queen. Control freak.
Jake and Angela are both nuts af and dangerous … I think the other two are just dumb lackeys
Her "friend" in Alaska knew of the murderous accusations, yet he didn't think Jake was serious bout killing her? Sounds like he didn't care for her at all
He's a disgrace
In awe of how well she handled herself. What a well spoken beautiful young lady.
This witness is lucky to be alive!
I bet she was closer to being “ disappeared “ than she even knows.
I loved the way this witness schooled the defense on his nasty try to make a point about brain injury/brain damage
Superb testimony!!! I actually felt the fear when describing the murder threat and escape 😮 I cannot believe those liars, arsonist, thieves and murderers actually thought they were the better choice for parents. Beth really put you there! Fantastic testimony!!!👍🏻
My heart goes out to this sweet gentle person. She was amazing on the stand. Wishing the best for her in the future.
This young woman is the strongest person. She lived in a house full of evil people . I hope she lives a good life and put this all behind her. I was praying for her while she testified.
Tabby was stronger bc she knew to live she had to let them have Bulvine. Hannah preferred to be dead before giving up custody. Id agree with Hannah.
Yes!!!
Well if it wasn’t for these gangsters that agreed to let her go to friends and then college was it, she was able to escape. Her god helped her think and get away.
Me to
I've lived alone after I got away
For 30 years
In my opinion, Angela should at least have gotten life. She was the mastermind of this horrible massacre. Does anyone think that if she and Jake didn't plea guilty before all the witnesses testified how controlling Angela was and how out of control she would get, like throwing a 2x4 at Tabitha and threatening to get a gun, that she would get only 30 years and could get out sooner?
BS. Jake and his idiot father were the master-minds. Jake is a violent, greedy and jealous sack of shite, all Wagner family members have testified to the fact that Angela AND George tried to talk these losers out of doing any of this repeatedly. Get your facts straight, you incel. The entire family are literally out of their minds. They'll all rot in hell thanks to rat-face Jake
Agree 💯
I like this chick.... When the defense questioned her she showed herself as a baddie.... She saw right through his questions and taught him what a hard workday is... Awesome....
Amazingly calm and well spoken.She is very lucky to have come through relatively unscathed. May God keep her safe and happy.
Beth Ann did an excellent job. I feel so sorry for her and what she went through. You can see how fearful she is. I am glad she was able to escape. I hope she has a much better life now.
When she first took a drink of water and you could literally see her hand tremble in fear, I felt so very terrible for her. Hopefully after all this she can go on to live a very happy life with a completely normal family who isn't psycho and controlling.
This woman is a top-notch person. It's so good that she escaped this screwed-up family with her life.
Psychopaths always target trusting, innocent people. My prayers go out to this young lady.
After working in a County Common Pleas Court for 9 years, i am well aware of how young people can make mistakes about who they choose to be with, and the terrible sh t that happens sometimes. But how in the world could this poor young woman have foreseen what was in her future. All the best to you, Ms Armer. We hope you can shake as much of this nightmare off as is possible for you.
This young lady is lucky to survived this horrible family. I’m glad she got out safely. I wish her all the best in this life. She seems like she’s a very nice, beautiful and sweet young lady. It was because of her faith in God is the reason why survived. May God keep his hand upon this young lady for the rest of her life!!
Thank god her father and bridesmaid got her out
Amen 🙏🏻
This girl got everything right. I’m glad she got away from these crazy abusive people.
This girl is so intelligent and well spoken. How did she end up in this cesspool?
I’m so grateful she got out alive. God bless her. ❤
Such a beautiful, dignified, insightful lady! I hope she gets to live a full and happy life after going through this nightmare.
She’s an amazing witness. Calm, articulate and believable.
Thank you for going through this trial. Its so tedious.!! Big kudos to this young lady -so brave, articulate.
I don't understand what she ever saw in Jake and family. She is so smart and insightful..thankfully she's survived.
Sounds like Angela is jealous of Jake's wife... everybody liked her cooking..and Angela wants to be the only woman
And would not stand for anyone showing kindness to the babies. So jealous
Angela = Jealousy
Exactly. She cooked well and the kids likely loved being around her too. She accuses her of food poisoning & touching the kids inappropriately. All lies.
@@dejuhvu1793 George's x wife Tabatha was accused of the same thing from Angela
She will be running the prison. She should have NEVER got a plea deal! In Ohio you don’t have to be there to get Death…..just plan and know about it. They have that evidence!
Mother In Law from Hell for real…. Poor girl getting involved with this chaos -
I found out that my ex mil (controlling narcissistic martyr matriarch of a big family) accused me (to others) of poisoning my kids. And before me accused another of my sis in laws of the same thing, plus poisoning her husband! When I was told these things by the 3rd sister in law (estranged) that's when I knew I was right and that woman was crazyyy.
Listen, I admit to being a weird person, black sheep of my family, and not “normal.” But the Wagner family is a whole new level of just... I really don’t even know how what word describes them. The details that have come out during this trial are just 🤯! Their family seems to have a cult like feel. I think it’s absolutely horrible that so many people were murdered. And Hanna didn’t get to raise her children. She was a young mother, but she was a very good mother. Her two little girls were robbed of their mom, grandparents, uncle, and more. I hope that they’re both in a loving, safe home. Thank God the Wagner’s will never have children in their custody again. They are evil scum.
And Idk how this idiot thinks he’s going to get away with this. Even IF he didn’t actually kill anyone, or touch a gun, doesn’t matter. He was involved from the beginning with the planning, and he went with them that night knowing exactly what was going to happen.
Weird/odd is an understatement 😂. Warped, petty clan.
If Jake and Angela testify as they're supposed to then George attempted to shoot the gun but got scared he'd miss so Jake had to shoot first. If that happens hes sunk right now as crazy as it sounds there are people that wouldn't convict based on what we've heard so far but theres still a good chance they'll be convince .0
Beth taught Jake who Jesus was & how much God loves him. Angela never gave her sons a chance in life. George couldnt kill so there's 1 thing he didnt obey Angela. She was like Manson.
Ozark family.
@@spicyirwin5835 I can’t imagine how horrific it was for any of those girls to have to live with her, and the rest of them. She was like the Jim Jones of their family. The husband, and sons did whatever she said. And took every word she told them as truth. There’s definitely nothing wrong with loving your grandchildren. But she had more of an obsession than love for her grandchildren in my opinion. She wanted Hanna and Dana murdered so she would be the only woman in Sophia’s life. I think it’s a miracle that Tabitha made it out alive. But she, and Beth will probably suffer trauma for the rest of their lives because of the experience with that psycho family. I might be wrong, but I think Angela has feelings for her sons that aren’t exactly normal either. She’s definitely obsessed with them too. She never wanted them to be happy with their girlfriends, or wives. She always tried to cause problems. And that’s a huge understatement! To go so far as accuse someone of poisoning children, and touching them inappropriately, is whacko!
Like I said, this family, and the whole case is just mind blowing.
She was amazing. Esp with the cross exam. He’s trying so hard to lead her a certain direction and she’s not having it. She’s brilliant. He tried to make her look naive & uneducated. However she proved the opposite. She sounded more poised than the lawyer!
Seriously! Star witness
Poor Beth from being a missionary to living with true evil family. Angela is a total control freak & I bet they planned on using her good identity for credit. Glad she's alive & befriended Sofia & Bulvine!💜🙏💜
Maybe God needed someone strong like her to expose the truth.
@@mstat7776 wow great point.
Elizabeth could write a book about her life and it would definitely be a Best Seller.
How did such an intelligent young lady get involved with such a wicked family? She was brilliant on the witness stand.
She was naive being a missionary but well read so book smart not evil smart. Tabby knew evil but Hannah never thought she & her whole family would be killed.
I think she had an Amish background, if so then as she said she did not have enough experience with men.
@@stormybleu6054 It sounds like German accent yet perfect English, Amish? I was wondering “ mail order bride”? Yikes! What a Hillbilly Parade of Horribles!
No need to cut a deal, all should get Death Penalty or not have it in OHIO at all. Sheesh 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Because she likes "bad boys" and was in on all the schemes etc. Wouldn't surprise me if she was in on the early plans of this whole plot.
@@EFFEZE Take your boring troll ass....anywhere.
This poor girl 😞 All of them are monsters and would have eventually killed her too.
“He didn’t have it in him to murder” and “calm down”??? And he was law enforcement? Shame!!!
Bless this young lady, God be with her and let her live happily with a normal family
Poor girl. How awful to live in a houseful of killers, and she must be scared out of her mind testifying. Good on her
So proud of Elizabeth and Tabitha for having their day to speak the truth and expose this black widow Angela Wagner and her abuse.
Glad she got away from these thirsty Pigs..
they should all be on death row !!
Strong and beautiful young lady. Smart, eloquent and brave! Thanks god she saved her self from these monsters.
Poor girl her first romance and this is it. Horrible
I didn't know that
Yikes. Dang
Poor thing
Wow this girl has definitely impressed the hell outta me. She is handling this defense attorney
How did this confident self possessed woman ever wind up with Jake Wagner? Idgi. Guy had a kid & lived in a trailer with his parents. What did he do for a living again? Jeez
I don’t understand it whatsoever either! How on earth did someone like him get someone to marry or have a baby with him?! He is no prize, even before the murders! He statutory graped Hanna. But Elizabeth is so together! I’m thankful she was able to get away and not get pregnant by these mobsters. They are their own cult!
@@catsberry4858 Right? Insane
This young lady is so brave for fighting for her own life, but for also helping the Rhoden family get Justice. She didn’t own anyone her testimony, but she did it for her. Part of her healing, I’m sure. So fucking brave!
This case is terrible. But is the child’s name actually Bovine? Like who would do that to a child?
A family of murderers, I guess 😢
Bulvine Wagner
How must she feel to know she was living with the killers of 8 people and was sleeping with the worst one.
This testimony has changed the way I see Chris Newcomb. I see now, he's still playing the Wagner game, and attempted to make THIS WOMAN sound crazy, weird, strange. I see your game, buddy. It has not gone unnoticed.
Yep. She was probably giving him the stare because she was becoming more and more terrified of what she had gotten herself into
Yes….she impeached him!
What is sad all you have to do is tell and get to escape the death penalty after murdering 8 people!!!!
Oh I know! I have emailed Ohio’s attorney general. This case SCREAMS death penalty. So premeditated and ghastly!!!
Her idea of "bringing Angela down" is the opposite of what Angela's idea is, clearly.
Ok this is a petty comment but the sound of the pen the prosecutor uses to cross off items on her legal pad drives me nuts. The audio is so good it picks up everything. On a less petty note this witness was terrific! She held her ground in a strong, calm and direct way carefully answering every question with credibility and strength! This Wagner family is absolutely terrifying.
I agree! Another sound that grates is that the prosector begins nearly every question with "and," although it's more like "eeyand." I wonder if they ever listen to recordings of themselves afterwards. She also, later in the testimony, adds the words, "I guess" after she asks a question. I guess?
It seems it would be important to be as neutral and clear and unadorned as possible; good oratory is a cultivated skill,
It drives me nuts too!!
@@rrrjjj5572 yesssss! I was watching her the other day and her cross examination of George Wagner was terrible. Her demeanor is bordering on obnoxious and she seems so ill prepared for a key witness. She was no match for him. They needed the best of the best on this trial and feel like she just does not have the experience, attention to detail and demeanor for this high profile trial. She gets easily rattled, is disorganized and her responses to witnesses on cross when she does not get the response she wants sounds like a child who did not get their way. If you watched the trial about the controlling boyfriend who murdered his girlfriend, the Prosecutor on that case (last name is Brown) was incredible. He is the level of legal talent this complex case deserves.
She is obviously a class apart from that family how on earth did she get involved with these people? She must have been extremely naive and trusting?
Yes a class above. That is why they all thought she was weird
She's been through a lot. God bless and heal her. Imo, she was a good witness, very thoughtful in her answers. May God protect her and bless her with a bright future.
How does a nice young lady like her get mixed up with a toxic family like the Wagner's? I hope she is able to heal and find peace and happiness in her life. She's fantastic.
This girl is so lucky to be free from the Wagner's.
She seems like a nice quite girl who deserves much better than been controlled by some inbred hillbillies.
She probably would have not lived through it much longer.
Amagine how she felt when her policeman friend refused to help and took Jake's side when they threatened to kill her?
This is a very intelligent woman. I am so glad she got away from this toxic family. You're Granddaddy would be proud, Elizabeth.
This poor girl. What a nightmare. This family is the worst I’ve seen. Absolutely no love in their heart. Angela is definitely the root of all of this
I think Jake was in love with his child's mother but he was so abusive she knew she didn't have to put up with it. Hannah was her own person.
He thought he caught bully and boss her like his mother did others
He had already killed Hannah by the time he met this girl
He wanted a mama and a lover
I don't think he loved this young lady at all. She was an easy target to be controlled the way he thought he could Hannah 😊
Wow, I'm speachless, I never watched a witness on stand. I saw the crime story on tv, I decided to Google, to see the end. But she is a tough cookie one. Good bless you soul, you went thru a nightmare for 3 months. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
They named their grandson Bovine? Weird.
Bulvine
the way this girl was depicted I wasn't expecting a " normal" person
My Heart breaks for this young lady anyone know how she is doing?
If she was smart they put her in witness protection
She moved twice to two different states out of fear of the Wagners. She is unmarried and has a job.
I read she’s on TikTok
The ex-wife is extremely smart, articulate and well read. I think she would make an excellent lawyer! Her demeanor is extremely levelheaded and her emotions are not on display. Excellent job
You are right. Attorney of some sort of anything in academics. Her enunciation is impeccable! I’m very impressed by her stones, too! She’s a tough cookie to break
Well she sure dodged a bullet getting away when she did . She had a guardian angel for sure .
I bet Angela thought that by pleading guilty, all her dirty laundry would never see the light of day. How wrong she was!
What a living hell this girl went through, she’s beautiful, well spoken, intelligent, this shows that anyone can find themselves in this situation when there’s lunatics around, God bless her.
I can’t stand when the attorney starts each question with a whiny dragged out ‘Aaaand’.
I hope after this trial this young lady can move on and have a happy life, the fact that she was manipulated into this situation by Jake Wagner makes me so mad for her, blessings and positive vibes heading her way.
Am I the only one or does anyone else think that the judge is sustaining a heck of a lot of the prosecution's questions/witnesses answers that seem very reasonable and relevant❓⚖👨🏻⚖️
Well that's good because the truth is coming out from someone other than the direct family.
Pretty young lady Hope she is healing from these four evil monsters
Oh my gosh I think Beth Ann got the most responses of anyone in this whole Court Case. I agree she was and is amazing. I wished I could reach out and give her a huge hug, and just let her cry it out on this momma/grama s shoulder. I hurt sooo badly for her, but she will make it because she is called and I believe she knows the LORD will bring her through all of this..
How in the world did this sweet gentle soul end up with this horrible man and his family??!! It's possible Jake would have turned out a completely different person if not under the rule of this horrible woman he called mom. This wasn't a family it was a hierarchy. Poor Sophia was used as a Pawn. She didn't love this child like a grandmother should, she used her.
I wish all the best to this young and beautiful lady Elizabeth. She possesses courage, integrity self control, honest and has Integrity. Too bad she met these criminals.