ON THE STAND | Michigan woman who allegedly tortured, killed 15-year-old son testifies in court
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- Опубликовано: 13 дек 2023
- Shanda Vander Ark testified in court Thursday. She is accused of torturing her 15-year-old son in July 2022, leading to his death.
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Pisses me off seeing her drink the hell out of water. When she deprived her son of every basic human need.
Same 💯
This!! and the fake "Can't remember" uuggghhhh😡😡😡
Me too, Lisa I get kicked off
OMG me too @@lsr69wontquit64
I notice that after being made to answer the difficult questions, she almost always follows her answers with taking a drink from her water bottle.
First red flag, a child cannot steal food from their own house. I will never understand withholding food from a child
I couldn't even "withhold" food from my dog when he was overweight & needed to lose 10lbs. Doc said one cup less a day & I just couldn't do it, had to change his diet to natural food instead. Lost the weight no problem. Cannot friggin imagine not feeding a child. Insane. That B is pure evil.
Agree with both of u! My boys (one being special needs) eat like crazy! They are always hungry. teen n tween boys need more calories than girls n even adults. I literally have to get groceries every 5 days! They eat me out of house n home n it's expensive but idc. I can't even imagine denying my kids food when they are hungry.
Even worse when she calls it stealing how is it stealing its there home
SAME. That's absolutely crazy, and she expects us to just be chill about that
@@LeeLeeCRNhe never got breakfast, lunch or evening meal. Just friggin hot sauce on bread. Forced to eat it by Paul. Now I wonder how that ‘forcing’ happened. They hated him. He was in adult nappies because they couldn’t be bothered to supervise his ‘needs’. How could he ask to use the loo when nobody was there. She was trying to train him like she did the dogs. When she gets jailed forever it’s justice for Tim and gets her away from the poor dogs.
She has no memories of what she did but has a PERFECT memory about everyone else's behavior.
Selective memory but I think it’s safe to say she’s full of kitty litter if she thinks she’s fooling everyone with her memory problems.
Yes
I bet Timothy never tasted a fcking tasty "frappé" from McDonald's right?
She is repulsive.
I love this Prosecutor he's not playing no games with her and every word comes out of those little lips is a lie
I couldn't agree more!!!! She infuriates me
PUNISH THE FATHER WHO SENT HIM THERE ILLEGALLY.
Exactly. He still hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
@@CatnessStrange
Right! I don't understand it.
And his stepmom! She suggested Tim go to her, then his Oklahoma teachers said when he was with his father, he smelled of urine, was dirty, and hungry! Tim was scared to death of going to the toilet and showed signs of S-AssT he was very helpful but needed a lot of help but overall he was a pleasant young man, but maybe the 🖤 🐑 of the family. They left out a lot of her family dynamics.
And let her go? Are you crazy?
@@456swaggerNo the father also needs to be charged. The demon mom will stay right where she is until she goes back to hell which is where she came from.👿👿
I find it interesting that she tried to be relatable by saying” go ahead and judge me” For yelling at the TV while watching a sports team. No, we’re going to judge you for torturing , abusing and killing your child. Nice try with that.
😂
I have NEVER wanted to slap someone through the screen as much as I did when she said that. 🤮
Yes! Like what about you is likable?
@@southerngraceglamour I just thought it was funny that she felt a need anything to say that. Your son is dead and you’re on trial for his murder but you’re worried about the jury and the country judging you for that?? it hit even harder that she did this in my home state
@@talandelmy5881hey at least you can find a little relief in the fact that at least she isn't from your home state and was just a resident, she's from the pitts of hell.
It is not a symptom of PTSD to “forget” every horrible thing you’ve ever done.
I thought that the point of having PSTD is that you 'Remember' awful things, not forget them.
She is a liar! She is trying to save her own neck. The dry heaving was her acting for the jury. Nobody bought it that has a brain.
Selective memory
There is disassociation with ptsd. Temporarily dissociate from being present.
Yes there is, but only if you are a victim, not a perpetrator. She is the abuser, she remembers everything, except of course when it hurts her case. She is one of the most cold hearted, evil mother I've ever watch/ witness @@leesh2684
Vander Ark really is a one woman freak show. Her extreme coldness and lack of emotion suggests she's a cold-blooded psychopath.
she is...
Totally! Nuts!
One woman freak show… lol
Not one woman no. She had tag team partner in crime Paul
Yeppppperrrr
Where was that weak stomach when her son was literally rotting and decaying away in front of her face?! Sick. 🤢
There is something very cold and creepy about the way she delivers her evidence. There is no sorrow, no shock, no love, no warmth, no empathy, no regret, concern, guilt, responsibility or care.
I know right no shame or embarrassment with her statements
That's because she's on the spectrum as well
She's a psychopath.
@@danielleburke87, No, she isn't. She's a stone cold psychopath.
Kind of reminds me of that character nurse in that movie with Jack Nicholson. ( One flew over the Cookoos nest.) Just like you said, emotionless and cold.
She says he "snuck" to the bathroom and that he "stole" a pop tart. So freaking heartbreaking and evil!!!!
Honestly no words to how awful this is 😢
What this poor boy went through and we obviously are never going to know the half of it but what little we do know is just sickening to think how a mother can treat her flesh and blood her baby this way but she obviously hasn’t got a heart n it’s scary to think there’s people out there like this more than people realise behind closed doors just heartbreaking 💔 😢
I don't think Timothy's intellectual disabilities (couldn't talk, clumsy, etc) were as bad as she makes out: his methods for sneaking food were somewhat creative, and show capacity he shouldn't have. Sure, he may have been difficult, but I have my doubts on how bad he really was.
It should also be noted the malnutrition and mistreatment can only have worsened his existing conditions, so yes, I blame the parents entirely.
My nephew has mid -functioning autism. Some things he does are mindboggling . Knows every detail of dinosaurs and Mediaeval times and The Flintstones and memorizes maps. But could not be allowed alone to eat food as he would eat a raw chicken. My brother has to have locks on the fridge and freezer or he actually WILL “ sneak” food to his bedroom. Would literally eat ANYTHING like taco seasoning packets and heat up a container of BBQ sauce in microwave if allowed. Of course he is FED MEALS . If someone isn’t watching the fridge or cupboards for a second he will go in at 3am and gorge on things he will take up to his room. Once he ate a charred and burned casserole that looked like a briquet. I know just how difficult it has been for my brother to live with and take care of this type of autism. This teenager seems more advanced in highschool although it sounds like he was failing. My nephew can do math problems but could not ever take “ regular “ subjects. There is a condition called Prader Willi (sp?) where people will eat until they explode and exhibit mental and emotional processing similar to this spectrum. I have a bit of understanding for what this woman meant when she said “ sneaking” the food. But they have nothing really healthy in that freezer by the looks of it. Tater tots and ice cream sandwiches, etc. How about a peanut butter and banana sandwich on whole wheat? An apple ? This woman is obviously very high functioning Asperger’s. Lots of “ tells” to me with her eye movements and logic. The older son definitely has a sensory processing disorder too. We went through an entire year of my nephew wearing a blanket over his head. He suddenly hated wind. Then hats. He can “ feel” his hair growing. Will shave his head and eyebrows. I’m not excusing her behaviour by any means. Just observing that the entire bunch definitely have autism. They are able to lie and be creative. Paul “ parrots” his mother’s words. My nephew will parrot entire beginnings to tv shows or the news. Repeats whatever you say to him back to you verbatim. How old are you? How old are you? This family hasn’t had resources. If she actually had him taking courses at home and was marking them “ fairly” was she trying to kill him? The destruction he would exhibit is identical to my nephew: take apart furniture, etc. Break his bed. Go up on roof and be on edge with a cape. We spent $40 K a year with specialists to work on a lot of this stuff. I feel like this entire family went under radar.
@@Serenitynow958
She pretends to cry because she didn't want Timothy to go to a foster family, but she murdered him.🤦🏻
She had choices.
Many choices.
She could have allowed him to placed in a group home for example.
I'm a retired RN, I worked in Psychiatry and lsi with children with disabilities, yes, clients with various diagnoses can have various and very upsetting quirks, but no parent I ever met killed their child.
She hates Timothy, loathes him, even here 2 years later.
She blames him for everything.
She describes her own horrifying acts, like having Timothy stand with his arms above his head or giving him ice baths and hot sauce with a 2 MILLION Scoville Heat Rating, the hottest possible (a jalapeño has a rating of 5000 to 8500...) as if it's normal!!!
She is SICK!
At the start of the trial she mouthed to her lawyer "I'm sooo cold!!!"
while wearing 3 layers of clothing apparently.
But skin and bones, naked Timothy had literal ice baths, one at least lasted 9 hours!!!.
9 hours.
She absolutely disgusts me.
Peace!
👋🇨🇦🌠
this lawyer is a master at subtle digs
Love how she doesn’t realise too
Love it when he said "the plants never missed a feeding?"
She monitored him every minute of the day but didn’t notice he was starving to death.. 😡 she’s so full of it
She thought she is so intelligent,but actually she is so stupid evil
❤❤❤ best comment of this trial
She’s a monster!! As a monster she will never admit she’s guilty.
I have watched thousands of true crime trials etc and I have never wanted anyone to get found guilty more than this woman.
Agree
100%
Her and Al McLean in Takota Collins
And Amber Heard.
Ditto
Like all psychopaths, she's the victim.
Shes narcissistic and a sadist to boot.
Yup! She thinks she’s the smartest one in the room.
@@Midge0314 Here's what's funny about people who think they're the smartest person in the room. They actually might have the highest IQ and from several perspectives may actually BE the smartest person in the room keeping in mind that in her case, she IS exceptionally brilliant, BUT they are never smarter than a bunch of detectives, forensic evidence, teams of lawyers, etc etc etc. all working together. It's their biggest mistake.
Oh, this poor woman! Someone stole her pop-tarts and gave her ugly braids! How will she recover?
It’s the feminist spirit she’s hated men
The sad thing is he would be alive if he was sent to foster care instead of her house of horrors.
Yes , just give the child up… give him to someone who could handle his issues while you could not! He was not pretending… he was not trying to WINnnnnn!! Gosh you are one sick evil being. Whyyyyyyyyy
The thought that she will get 3 meals a day in prison sickening.
She needs the same sentence she gave her son...ice baths, hot sauce sandwiches, A closet....this is just heartbreaking and had her son to carry out the punishment! Sad situation. So many ways to correct bad behavior. Bless you Timothy and RIP angel.
She'd complain it wasnt nice
Don't forget she hates hot sauce 😊
Yes, I feel she was abusive to Paul as well. I actually felt bad for him when he was giving his testimony. His body language is be telling.. So sad.. he is guilty as well but needs major therapy. This (so-called) woman is a devil in disguise!
She hid evidence too. That's SNEAKY AND DECEITFUL.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
She tortured this kid because she didn’t love him. She is so freaking guilty but she thinks she’s too intelligent to get convicted. She claims to not have enough time to be aware of a lot of what was going on, but she had enough time to train dogs. Installing alarms because your child took a pop tart is an extremely concerning. She starved him to death.
She knows its not going well. She's might be evil and a sadistic scumbag. But she still knows its not going well.
why aren't you giving evidence if you know all that you say is true?
She hung herself via text message. She is the most narcissistic psychopathic person I have ever seen. The fact that she passed the bar and still believes that she can outsmart a jury with her own testimony.
her other son doesn't look like he fared well either. kid looks anorexic. never seen bones pop out of a boy that bad.
@@jamesmccabe1702It's in the text messages!
“I only tracked it when stoped, I wouldn’t do it while driving”
good to know she understands roadway safety but not child safety
Also she would NEVER put G outside by himself and, judge her if you want, but she yells at the TV.
Model citizen
😒
Oh, she was so fast on her reply on that one
That was so pathetic.
It just blows me that she actually thinks people believe her. Shes a horrible liar. She can rot in prison.
The way she responds with “if that’s what the text says” who did she think wrote her texts??? SHE did!! This woman is vile!!!!!
She’s blaming it on Siri 😂
She can't bring herself to admit it so is using every phrase in the book to say yes without admitting it.
She’s Not a woman, not even a monster , even that’s too nice of a title. more like vermin, dog crap, insert any disgusting adjective here. Poor Timothy, RIP ❤😢
@@Kate-tz8edVery typical behaviour from a Narcissist. Impossible for them to admit to any wrong-doing.
Irritates me too.
That part when she said "I didn't eat for the month I was in jail." THE AUDACITY
Right!
Too bad so sad. As if anyone feels sorry for the demon.👿👿
I would have to say to her oh my did you go on a hunger strike?
She doesn't look like she's starving
Shes realizing people are looking at her in a way which reveals that her attempts to reconcile them with her are failing miserably...she's really starting to squirm Good to see
Having him hold his arms over his head. Giving him freezing baths. Not being allowed to sleep??
The worst tortures.
She is evil.
Pure evil. She's a demon.👿👿
And Paul said Timothy wasn’t even allowed to be as comfortable as possible in the tub. He couldn’t rest his head on the rim of the tub and he couldn’t rest his head on his own shoulder
So right horrible woman would said more but get banned 😒
And no remorse at all
Her flippant reply: “If that’s what the text says.” Is cowardly and morally repugnant.
She is beyond evil
100%. It's her way of dissociating from what she did. Cowardly is the perfect word for it. This woman is incomprehensible.
@@NagaeemI think she’s related to Alex Murdaugh
She is the most brutal, controlling, nasty, angry, liar I have ever seen!!!!
Yes she is
Does she know she makes no sense? Timothy gets 1-2 minutes in the bathroom, isn’t allowed to leave his “room” but then isn’t supposed to pee or poop in his pants. She set him up to fail every time so she could issue these cruel punishments. I think she didn’t like having a special needs child to take care of and wanted him gone. She’s a piece of work.
Exactly
She remember what she wants. A calculated wicked Delilah who did not love her child nor herself. I can’t understand the look on her face, it has no soul nor remorse.
She’s vermin. RIP Timothy
Her job is more important than her kids will ever be. When Paul went to work to start at 4pm, who was watching G??? G was locked in his room too so he couldn’t create havoc in the rest of the house. That’s why there was a camera in Gs room. She was watching her house from work. G was left without supervision for 2.5 hours everyday. I do believe she could speak through them cameras to G or Tim.
,
Exactly
I will tell you there is NO teenager that goes on a hunger Strike. Both my 15-year-old boys ate me out of house and home as I used to say! They had bottomless pits, they could eat Breakfast, twice, Lunch Three times and Dinner four times!!!!! I don't care if you are mentally challenged or not, when your tummy says eat, you are going to eat. This is just an outrage. I cannot fathom.
My four boys exactly the same, they are grown now with families of their own and always say “mam how did you do it with four of us, we ate so much” my answer was that’s what a good mother does, it breaks my heart to think what this poor sweet boy suffered, she’s a total monster, hope she rots in hell.
@@junebyrne7497That is exactly how I remember it was when my 3 brothers became teenagers. As the only girl, I could not believe the amount of food they could eat in a day. 😊
My son ate like a sumo wrestler. I'd worry when he wasn't hungry (which wasn't often) I can't stomach this woman.😡🤬🤬
So true, boys that age need a lot of food. They will plunder the fridge even after a meal, and loving parents make jokes about how much they can eat and stock the fridge again, they're growing and that should make you happy.
😂I actually thought about how my parents called us teens vampire's that ate all night long. Their food bills were through the roof but we were never cut off from eating that way because we were growing!
She has a very weak stomach and she didn't want to throw up. What about how Timothy's stomach felt after being forced to eat nothing but bread and hot sauce?? This woman literally makes me gag!!
This lawyer is absolutely amazing
The BEST I SEEN WITH ALL THE TRAILS I WATCHED but her LAWYER this has to be his first case😂 case he as well is no helping her case out
@@salimahtolbert5560 it was really her defense lawyer's first case? wow, are you sure? I thought he was an experienced one as this is a murder case. only the experienced public attorneys are given murder cases as far as I know.
@@salimahtolbert5560 i think her lawyer just did the minimum to be called her "lawyer". Even the questions he asks Paul are useless. I assumed that he just refused to put any more effort than needed in defending her.
@@bangboom177..He said after the trial he was happy thr right verdict was reached.
I am blown away at this Woman’s evilness. Her heart is black.
sadly, there are many walking among us with even blacker hearts. Watching these cases makes me want to have nothing to do with humans.
@@ronniemead805I agree.. and I feel the same way you do
Any so is the son that helped her!!
@DontHurtM39
So is her soul
He never knew what a hug from a mother feels like 😢
Shanda Vander Arks greatest hits:
1. I Don't Remember
2. If That's What It Says
3. It Was Paul's Idea
4. I Don't Know
5. Stressed Out
She sounds TREMENDOUSLY STUPID, to keep saying "It was Paul's idea".
You're the parent but you killed one of your kids because it was the other kid's idea?
I have some tracks to add to the record...
6. Magna Cum Laude
7. 2nd in my class
8. Motion sensors
9. Lies & Deceit
10. Disassociation
11. What the heck??
12. FROZEN chicken nuggets
13. Check my Amazon history
How does a defendant like this think think they would be found not guilty? Unbelievable.
Only she thinks she’s Not guilty! She’s the cruelest person I’ve seen as a mother; yet loves to brag on how smart she is!!!! I’d be too embarrassed to admit it! Narcissist ‼️‼️‼️
Narcissist.
Dunning Kruger effect.
Straight up narcissism.
She’s now acting like she didn’t know anything about the abuse.
Thank goodness she has clarified again and again that she would NOT check her phone unless she was at a stop light. Yep, bc that’s the crime we are all worried about! What a horrific monster.
My thoughts exactly. Oh I'm a responsible driver. I only texted the instructions of torture while stopped at a red light!!!
She’s used to be scrutinized, she’s doing CYA at all times. I wonder how she’ll do in prison.
I will say, caring for a special needs child is an immense burden. I haven’t been watching much of this trial, so I don’t know what kind of support system she had to care for him, but I can certainly understand how it would really wear you down. I don’t know what a person is to do if you really just can’t take the responsibility anymore, or need a break. I’m not defending her in any way, but I do wonder what someone does in that case. She clearly has a personality disorder and lacks any sort of empathy. Her child really drew the short stick being born with a disability and then getting her as a mother. Wowza.
I know, she is so ridiculous it's infuriating.
@@megmeyer7563 Yes, like following traffic rules is a get out of jail card for murdering your son.
How heartbreaking that the very last words Timothy ever heard on this earth, by his own “mother” was “see, you don’t have to breathe through your mouth dummy” and forcefully shuts his mouth closed. That truly broke my heart.
I recently watch someone pass away, in their final hours they solely mouth breathed. It was like it was the bodies last ditch effort to take in oxygen and breath as long as they could. I'm sure Timothy was so near the end at this point when he was breathing from his mouth, it was his bodies response. So horribly sad
@@Nagaeemthis is a really great perspective. I 100% agree. My grandpa had the same open mouthed breathing as his body was completely shut down and I’m sure timothee was in that space. All I can hope is that his body was shut down enough that he didn’t hear her cruel words
The only consolation is that Timothy is in the arms of angels protecting him.
The attorney getting her to read her own words in her own voice for the jury was a good move. He seems intelligent.
She is a control freak. She likes to train dogs and people. She has no empathy and is self centred. She saw Timothy as a burden. The way she treat this poor boy is evil and heartbreaking.
No doubt the dogs she trained were treated much more humanely!
I'm a dog trainer and I watch true crime It's horrifying to see think what this woman has done to dogs when no one was around. She is one of the most awful criminals ever!!! She literally actively tortured a child for 6 mos straight until he died. I wouldn't trust my garbage cans with this woman.
Yeah, poor Timothy. Her mission was to break him at any cost
@@Decades-pl2klWhen he could have been surrendered to get appropriate care and, hopefully, a family that would truly love him. Even if it wasn't a conventional family and just care takers and others working in the system. But no... this woman chose to torture Timothy, already at a disadvantage with autism and various other disabilities. He stood no chance of standing up for himself. He wasn't able to truly process and understand what was happening. He died unwanted, unloved, and broken beyond belief. I'm glad they weren't able to resuscitate him at the home but sadden they weren't able to bring him back once EMS and police were involved. He will still have those horrors but they would still have been caught and he would have gone somewhere he'd be truly cared for.
@@elizabethrodgers8616 She's a Sadist, if not Timothy she would have found someone to torture sooner or later one way or another. The woman is deranged but calculating and crafty. Highly dangerous individual.
Rip Timothy, your Mother hated you but you are loved Dear Young Man by strangers on the Internet. I wish somebody had come to your rescue .
God the Creator Jehovah Gid is going bring him back here on new earth paradise like Gid had planned before Satan and ppl turn against Him. Gid did not changed His orinal purpose for humble human and our earth.we just need ti be on God's side
Jesus said the love of Gid means that we are observing His commandments
Wish his older brother was not such a weakling.
@@ronniemead805 I find it hard to comprehend how Paul didn't loose his head with the Mother or could it be that his head was so wrecked that he was in a Catch 22 , damned if he did and damned if he didn't. She seemed to have him under her spell , like an abused spouse, Her husband got a stroke and went home to his Mammy , the Woman is deadly dangerous, notice how gaunt and hungry Paul looks.
Birds of a feather
@@ronniemead805no child would chose to do certain things. When you grow up in bad environment, you sometimes do what you have to to survive 😢
Justice was served. This witch will now rot in jail and hell.
I’m a nice person. But in this case prison karma will be her hell.
I believe her true justice will be awaiting her when she leaves this life…
She keeps blaming that baby even after death. There are no reasons or excuses for what they did. NONE
The worst part about all of this is how long this went on… and every second of every day realizing Timothy probably wondered “why are they doing this” and feeling so helpless… this woman gets under my skin more than any other true crime I’ve read and watched…
Me too, I'm an older woman and this is the worst abuse case I've ever heard of in 50+ years! I don't use the word "hate" much but I HATE this monster 🤬
Heartbreaking
She reminds me of the female Natzie guards cruel and enjoyed the power of torturing innocents
I mean, the cases that involve babies and toddlers and SA are worse imo.
I’m right there with you 💯 she is worse than tiffany moss!
She had plenty of money to purchase cameras and motion censors.
I know!
And everyone knows you can get a check for a handicapped kid!
@@xziztortheeternal6471not when he’s under 18 if you have more than a few thousand in savings
The problem wasn't that she didn't have insurance. It's that she didn't have the card.
Exactly!
She tortured that boy with noise, knowing how bad it affected him, Paul needs pure prison time
Paul got 30 too 100 years in prison. ..
Not that I remember
Not that I remember.
What do you remember?
He stole a pop tart and a chip, and for that, he got the death penalty. 😢
Poor baby, he never had a chance.
I love how she remembers everything except things that are incriminating to her
Yeah
That's when she has tunnel vision and blacks out. But remembered that Paul ordered the leg weights or restraints as it was off his Amazon account not hers.
How that defense attorney could listen to this woman without losing it is quite remarkable.
i thought the same untill his interview
Do you mean her defense attorney? He drove me crazy wondering how he could possibly defend this woman. I need to watch his interviews after the verdict.
He’s struggling though, you definitely can see and hear that. This is just so disturbing.
@@user-ox8dn4hl5o yes, he is definitely struggling. It shows when you hear him laughing after her most ridiculous answers, helps to release some tension.
She had it on cctv etc.. she saw everything, and want to be sure..she had every move...made in her house.. secure it, not a home, but her place to control like .a prison .. guarded.
this woman disgusts me, lying through her teeth at any chance she gets while still belittling her deceased child
Same 😮😢
This attorney is not giving her an inch she desperately scrabbles to cover up he is. Brilliant
Oh Timothy 😢 if you can see this just know that we all hurt with you, cried for you, and love you, and want Justice for you. This thing is not a mother. She is a monster. We all wish we could have saved you from this. ❤ RIP
❤100 😢
Tiny tim is in heaven ..and any bad dreams he had with this woman , will be as if nothing happened at all....Wiped away..
He can’t see this
@@kohedunnidk ab that but it’s nice to think that
Timothy is free now, of all pain and suffering. He’s with his Heavenly Father, now and knows eternal love and peace. 🙏🕊
Did she have the effrontery to say to the jury "you'll probably laugh at me for this, but this is just who I am" about cheering loudly for a college football game?
Lady, there's not a single, sickened, horrified, scarred, person in either the courtroom or watching these videos from home who has the ability to laugh at anything you've done or said.
So very true
And saying judge me or not ...no one here is judging you about football....
That really really made me sick to hear her proudly declare that she yells and cheers during college games!!!
Like diane downs on Oprah
Psychopath...No cure ..
She tries so hard to portray real emotions and seem relatable. "Go ahead and laugh and judge me, but I scream at college football." 🙄
I wonder, was she hoping for a chuckle? What a freak.
She’s not even trying to hide her hatred for him. She’s pure evil.
Does she honestly think the jury is going to say "well, if she doesn't remember it, then it's OK"? OMG.
Ikr? I commented on the same thing. Sociopathic scumbag.
You never know....look how stupid the jury was in the OJ trial....
I don't think it was stupidity, they didn't want to convict him, so they didn't.@@gingerwoo5589
@@gingerwoo5589jury wasn’t stupid, OJ’s lawyers were very talented
I know that’s her war cry “Can’t remember “
The prosecutor is impressive. She tries to get by him with her snappy answers but she does not succeed. He’s too good for her.
It’s always “we” and “us” she really made sure Paul got his his hands very dirty. She is disgusting
& her ex
Weird, right?
If you listen real closely, you can hear the prosecuting attorney getting upset by the way he breathes
@akat32928
I noticed that too. I’m guessing others could tell as well.
Remember (I think in his closing statement 🤔) he said that “everyone in this case,” had received “some kind of counseling.”
@@andreatakaki I'll have to go back and listen to that again. I don't know how I missed it.
@akat32928
Good vibes friend 💜
She says that she never tried the extreme hot sauce she administered on her son because she didn't want to throw up!! She just sealed her fate.
👌
Don't forget! She had a week stomach. The gall of this woman.
Her talking about cuffing/zip ties as if it was something normal was chilling. Hope they never let her out of prison
They wont
CRAZY...To hate your child so much is beyond my comprehension.
This is sickening. And she keeps saying he was stealing food like it wasn't his right to eat. Disgusting
Imagine being imprisoned and tortured every waking moment of your life, and never shown love and comfort, nor touch from a loving embrace. It's horrific, I'm physically shaking. I may develop PTSD just from these videos; imagine the jurors who had to view photographs of the crime scene.
RIP Timothy.
I don't have any mental problems but the lack of physical and emotional contact from my parents when I was growing up. My father tried to kill me when I was a baby. He admitted it. When I was less than a year old he threw against the wall and dislocated my right hip and my left arm. I grew up as Cinderella and rarely able to leave the house. I was the cook and cleaner for eight siblings and my parents. My siblings were very mean to me. One sibling in particular was physically abusive. I have scars to prove it. I was kept out of school for a year to rehab my brother's after an accident. I dream about leaving and disappearing from them. Yet, I was able to obtain multiple degrees and live a good life, after leaving my family behind.
@@theresahenderson3534god bless you. ❤ it’s good when adversity makes you stronger. I have been through some grueling health challenges and immense pain, it has definitely made me a stronger person. Cheers 🍻
@@theresahenderson3534Why are you making this about YOU???
I just heard of this case and only watched the son testify against his mother. It made me absolutely sick. The poor boy wasn’t suppose to have a moment of comfort! Imagine dangling a good dessert in front of a starving person. I will not watch anymore.
@@theresahenderson3534I am so so sorry you had to go through that! I am so proud of you for making a life for yourself even though it wasn't easy. ❤
Licensed psychologist here Finding out that someone had a stroke is absolutely not a traumatic event that qualifies for ptsd in the DSM V.
Thank u so much
I love when professionals comment and you can find out ACTUAL info. I was just sitting here wondering if someone having a stroke would leave a person with PTSD. Even if someone had PTSD, would that make them forget certain things and not others? What I mean is would Shanda forget everything pertaining to the mistreatment of Timothy but seem to remember everything else? It just seems ludicrous.
And PTSD doesn’t make you forget ONLY the bad things.
@@andreatakaki..She was never diagnosed with ptsd ocd reactive disorder or hypoglycemic.
My son 4 months ago passed away from a stroke and it is most definitely a traumatic event!
speaks volumes when a "mother" says a child had to SNEAK to a bathroom. A bathroom!!! . That poor child. Hope this woman gets everything that she gave that child.
She clearly has no intention of being honest in any way.
She's awful! Despicable! She doesn't have any sorrow or shame for her extreme abuse of her child. She's very contolling and manipulative. She needs life in prison w/no parole.
I feel sorry for Paul. The poor guy spoke with fear in his voice. He was most likely threatened if he did not do what he was told. I think he was a little mentally challenged. He seems like he would be a nice person if not manipulated
Yeah, in her mind she feels justified for whatever SICK reasons. Horrible Horrible person
Punishing her in prison like she punished her poor young son sounds about fair.
Agree, she is vile and evil, very cunninging
She needs the death penalty.
I want to weep for this poor child. Heartbreaking.
Same hun it’s so sad! 😞
It's so sad. He died cold, hungry, and at the hands of the people who should have loved him
My heart bleeeeeeeeeds! Heavenly Father!! The torture she inflicted on that boy! Hell awaits her for sure
It is so heartbreaking! We can only hope there was a Heavenly Being waiting to embrace and love him on the other side. Dear child Timothy, RIP.
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Prosecutor is amazing.
He trapped her in her own words.
She dug her own hole.
All Mr. Robert’s did was make her eat her own words.
For a supposed intelligent woman and an attorney she sure was stupid.
You ever just get a vibe off someone without even knowing much…this woman gives me the creeps just looking at her.
The pathetic part is she will be treated better in prison compared to how she treated him. She is truly a sadistic monster
So true !
Once those women in prison find out what she’s done: they will have their way with her.
As an ex-con, female, women don't like baby killers in the joint. No matter the age of the baby
@@jbee1686but she still gets to live so thats better than Timothy
not necessarily. She may not last long when the women get word of what she did
So she can remember that he stole a POP TART, but can't remember HANDCUFFING A CHILD!!!!
This is possibly the most disturbing case i have ever heard 😢
I love how twice she had to make it clear that she wasn't driving and texting. Like that would make her look like a bad person. Im a LEO and have seen truly evi people but this woman puts them all to shame.
if this woman says "i dont remember" one more time, imma lose it
She remembers everything she is sick
This woman is disgusting. That poor baby. How a Mom could torture her own flesh and blood to death. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about how that poor baby suffered.
It's the saddest case iv seen... my heart bleeds for that poor boy.. how he must have suffered knowing he wasn't loved and the torture and no food as well... she will go straight to hell.. 😢
I don't think in terms of flesh and blood. A person who does this to anyone is a threat to everyone.
@@Gabriel-hf1yyFor sure for sure.
This small life this child had and it suffered to death by the hands of his own protector and she turned out to be evil! My heart bleeds
I’m expecting my son next month. Twice I had scares that I might lose him. He’s not even on this earth yet and If I wasn’t carrying him inside my body I would have sacrificed myself for him. I can’t explain the insurmountable desire to protect your babies.
I can’t fathom whatever the hell this woman is. She is evil. Poor baby may he rest in peace being free from his torture.
She didn't want him to be like a zombie she wanted him to be full aware of his torture
I bet those women in prison will REALLY show her what PTSD is really about.
The disdain she had for that boy was palpable...and the deadpan justification of her actions show just how evil she is.
I hope each and every prisoner knows what she did.
Oh, they will what she did!
@@jennylope1 imagine that control freak who not only has no more control but is now going to be the one being told what to do 24/7
You don't have the beginning of a start of a clue. Your intelligence is superficial.
Right
Disgusting how many times she keeps drinking..we understand you monester you are so nervous but you deprived that boy from food and you don't deserve this water
I thought the same thing she don’t deserve water 💯
@@brandylongstreet5859 l thought she should have had the water taken away from her in the beginning, she,s using it to cover her nervousness, disgusting woman.
I agree
Remember in history people “stoned” people as punishment?
I’m just asking, What about throwing “full, sealed” water bottles as a daily punishment for someone’s entire life? 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Judge you for screaming at college football????? No we are judging you for torturing and starving your son
Omg she is absolutely despicable. Pure evil.
This is as bad as it gets. The worst of the worst. A mother who enjoys inflicting pain on their child.
I SAID THE SAME. Me being a crime junkie, I have come across some horrific stories, but this takes the cake!!!!!!! Hands Down!
Josef Mengele reincarnated. Pure evil
No....there is worse....much worse.....and some are in authority worldwide
Unfortunately for young Timothy his mom is a monster. She is a predator, evil inhuman to Timothy. Using her power over him who could not defend himself. So excruciating to hear her try to talk herself out of it.
@@veronicaleon8075 She wasn't his biological parent??
Wow this woman is totally void of any empathy
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This is psychopathy manifest! She's sick from the inside all the way out. See her skin and eyes
She's an Aspie
Narcissist.
This is the mind of a psychopath
Bless the prosecution. I love how he would first ask for her question, wait for her lie, then bring out the text messages to prove her wrong.
I HATE when criminals go on and on about stupid details but not the actual crime.
It's traumatizing listening to her testimony and the absolute lack of compassion and empathy. May her punishment be fitting for the crimes of starvation, torture, and extreme neglect of her special needs son. The hell he endured until his death at her hands is unimaginable.
it is my belief that in instances, Jesus is with those kids. and by the time Timothy quit breathing, he was already in heaven because God loves his children
@@margaretshull4423 where was God when he was being tortured by his own mother, where was God that allowed this monster to mother children?
@jackievanray Same place as when His own son was tortured and murdered for our sins. If you really want a detailed explanation there are plenty of books on that subject that get into that and more if you are interested.
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Amen and AMEN! Excellent and truthful answer! HALLELUYAH and all praises to our Savior Yahushua The Most High Yah👏🏾
Agree
I am still traumatized by the bread and hot sauce. What a monster.
I'm traumatized by her idea of the private parts... 😨
She had the audacity to say her stomach was too weak to eat that stuff, but she contemplated to put it on her son's private parts 😱 I had to pause the video there, it's just too much to comprehend. Poor jury 🥺
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MOMMY DEAREST ‼️
She's so concerned that he might think she was using her phone while driving.. like ma'am, that's the least of your concerns.
She decided to break his spirit at all cost and make him obey her like Paul did. I don’t think she intended to kill him just torture him forever and lock him up forever. When he died she didn’t plan for it. She had the text messages and everything in the house as an evidence. Still she was narcissistic enough and she thought she could lie herself out of it.
Paul obeyed her by torturing his brother. Timothy had no chance to obey or do anything right. He was doomed. Paul is evil like her, he wasn’t deprived of food or tortured. He did the torturing alongside and for that evil witch of a mother.
The Evidence against her is insurmountable... and the fact that she elected to testify speaks to her belief that a jury of her peers would actually feel sorry for her but I don't think so...
She is assuming that the jury is dumber than the rest of us.
Right? Another highly educated moron.
"She's a victim of the patriarchy"
-Women
She's trying to pull an amber heard on everything. Lie til you can't see straight.
She still talks about her dead son with distance.
And the way she answered questions are without any emotion.
What bothers me is that she is NOT in handcuffs, while her son was when he was on the stand! Evil women...
Totally agree!
Agree 💯
What!?!
What?
Why does that “bother” you?
Her memory is fine when she's talking about her job.
The way she said lil man makes me so
Sick
Her eyes are so cold empty no remorse or regret it’s sickening
Rest in peace Timothy, you deserved so much better 💔
Yeah poor kid, I’m so sorry you were treated so horribly. Rest in peace.
You can be assured he is at peace and feels no pain or sadness, with his Heavenly Father. Only eternal love and peace. 🙏🕊
She deserves the same in prison, the things she did to poor Timothy.
She proudly agreed that she is a highly intelligent woman and said with pride, "we had our groceries covered". How did she forgot that her son died of starvation and hypothermia in her own house? Evil mother and brother killed their own family member who was an innocent disabled kid. Unbelievable!
She really believes all these horrible things she's done are completely reasonable. Its just beyond the pale. Working in law she knew everything that she did was abuse/torture.
She doesn't believe they are reasonable. She's trying to cover her back
@@marioncannon9924she is pure evil
No she doesn’t…. She is even throwing her oldest under the bus to save her! Evil
She has an answer for everything
i grew up in the 80s when most parents spanked...sometimes beat on us............i remember feeling scared sometimes but it was so normal..........nothing like this though and my parents had to be provoked so i cant really say i ever thought i was in danger and always had unlimited food, soda, etc. i cant imagine my parents being angry over food.
You take a child off his meds cold turkey and is baffled that he misbehaves? Wow. Unbelievable. I’m not buying what she is selling.
Guilty .
The poor guy was probably sick from withdrawal too.
So cruel doing that with the medication, horrid woman
That's if heeven does play up. He probably was starving and sad because he was tortured
She did far more then just take him off meds. The abuse was years long. He was 96lbs (or close to that) when he died at 15 years old. That type of malnourishment doesn’t happen just bc of a med change/withdrawal. Her matter of fact tone as she says the cruelest stuff is sickening. I don’t remember if it’s in this clip or another I saw but she was asked about the date of something and she says she knows it was after Mother’s Day bc her mother in law gives her tomato and some other plants and they wear on her porch. She remembers seeing them on the date they’re questioning her about. But then she goes on this little monologue about how she doesn’t have a green thumb but she kept those plants alive. Like all proud of herself and I’m so glad the state caught it bc he makes a comment like “oh, so you made sure your plants never missed a meal” defense objected but that snarky comment made me happy. This lady is just heartless. And her fake panic attack earlier angered me, then she “threw up” when pictures of her son are put in front of her. Like what?? The sight of him makes you sick but you are the one who did that to him! Evil evil woman. And she ruined her other sons life by making him participate in this cruel behavior. At least he has come to his senses and knows he was wrong and is testifying against her, not for anything in exchange either, just to do the right thing.
He was only 69 pounds at 15 years old and 5'4" tall when he died, and was 104 pounds a little earlier at Mother's Day. 😲 And kept for hours in a bath tub of ice water, and starved. His autopsy showed that he had no fat inside his body, his weight was in zero percentile. And he was also very dehydrated.
Very sickening and disturbing! 😟
This is how EVIL looks!!! 😡😠😡😠
How disgusting of a mother to torture their own child till death and then sit there and lie and make it seem like he was the problem the whole time