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  • Published on Sep 19, 2022
  • George Wagner, IV is standing trial for the April 2016 murders of eight members of the Rhoden and Gilley families. Wagner IV faces 22 counts including eight counts of aggravated murder with death penalty specifications, aggravated burglary, conspiracy, tampering with evidence and forgery.
    Wagner’s brother, Edward “Jake” Wagner, and his mother, Angela Wagner, have already pleaded guilty to taking part in the conspiracy to murder the eight Rhoden and Gilley family members over their desire to obtain full custody of the then two-year-old daughter Jake shared with victim Hanna May Rhoden. Angela and Jake Wagner have agreed to testify against their family members.
    George “Billy” Wagner, the father of Jake and George, faces the same 22 counts.
    On the morning of April 22, 2016, family members found Chris Rhoden, Sr., 40, and his cousin, Gary Rhoden, 38, dead in Chris’ mobile home on Union Hill Rd. Chris Sr.’s ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden, 37, and their children, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Chris Rhoden Jr., 16, were found shot in the head in their sleep in their mobile home down the road. Hanna May had given birth days earlier to a baby girl who was not harmed. Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden, 20 and his fiancee, Hannah "Hazel" Gilley, 20, were also found shot to death in their sleep. Their six-month-old son was in between them covered in blood but unharmed. Frankie’s four-year-old son was unharmed in the home as well.
    Kenneth Rhoden, 44, was found shot once in the eye in his camper on Left Fork Rd. more than seven miles away.
    Angela Wagner’s mother, Rita Newcomb, pleaded guilty in 2019 to a misdemeanor count of obstruction. She had been charged with forgery and obstruction of justice for lying about signing and notarizing custody documents related to Hanna May, Jake and George’s children. Newcomb has agreed to testify against her family members.
    Billy Wagner’s mother, Fredericka Wagner, was initially charged with obstruction of justice and forgery for allegedly lying about purchasing a bullet-resistant vest for Billy. The charges were dropped after it was discovered a plate in the vest was manufactured after the homicides. Prosecutors have said they may refile the charges at a later date. Fredericka has been subpoenaed to testify.
    The victims:
    Christopher Rhoden Sr., 40
    his ex-wife Dana Manley Rhoden, 38,
    their children Christopher Rhoden Jr., 16, Hanna May Rhoden, 19, and Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden, 20,
    Christopher Sr.’s cousin Gary Rhoden, 38,
    Sr.’s brother Kenneth Rhoden, 44,
    and Frankie’s fiancée Hannah “Hazel” Gilley, 20
    The Wagners did it so they could get custody of the young daughter Jake had with his ex Hanna Rhoden, prosecutors said. Jake indeed won sole custody of the child, now 8, after the murders. The Wagners moved to Alaska. That all changed after authorities arrested them in November 2018, sparking a legal battle lasting almost four years.
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Comments • 120

  • Kelly Dreslinski
    Kelly Dreslinski 16 days ago +26

    This is upsetting...how could one family do this to another?? And even say they were friends?? Pure evil.

  • Patti Burns
    Patti Burns 16 days ago +32

    The Forensic Pathologist is great. So knowledgeable and so good at explaining everything in court. She should also be a Professor.

    • dinocrocs_58
      dinocrocs_58 9 days ago

      Best description I've heard for the marks around gunshot wounds based on distance. Clear, simple, easy to understand for the jury. And I watch a lot of court trials.

    • Patty Lettelier
      Patty Lettelier 14 days ago

      She’ll be on for quite awhile if she has to explain this on every victim.She’s definitely one tuff lady.

    • brian francis
      brian francis 16 days ago

      Most people in Ohio fist fight get over with

    • Sandra Carstairs
      Sandra Carstairs 16 days ago +1

      I think she’s doing a great job explaining she cares about her job and cares about the people she’s working on

  • Katrina Kefauver
    Katrina Kefauver 16 days ago +8

    IF THIS IS HOW THEY TREAT A FRIEND (CHRIS SR) I WOULD HATE TO SEE HOW THEY TREAT THEIR ENEMIES...VERY SAD AND UNCALLED FOR

  • Peekaboo Cockatiel
    Peekaboo Cockatiel 16 days ago +8

    If the jury can see the evidence, and the public there can see the evidence, then it should be shown on camera.
    I also believe all trials should be able to be available online.

    • cm bs
      cm bs 3 days ago

      Some evidence is blocked by the judge: dead bodies. The rest is simply not being shown. It's poor video coverage, they simply are not doing a good job. And all that camera wandering around makes me nauseated. It's badly done.

    • Peekaboo Cockatiel
      Peekaboo Cockatiel 6 days ago

      If they were trying to protect the victim’s families, this would be the prosecutor’s request. It was the defendant’s attorneys that raised this.

    • Barbara Chapman
      Barbara Chapman 6 days ago

      I think they don't show them on camera because of the potential for people making them viral on the web, and the disrespect it would be to the victims and an invasion of privacy and upsetting to the family.

  • shelia pierre
    shelia pierre 16 days ago +6

    Wow, don't want to see the evidence on clothing. Makes me think of the horrible, evil acts committed! For this family to plan and execute these murders are beyond comprehension. So Sad, Heartbreaking😭😭

  • Pamela Bown
    Pamela Bown 15 days ago +4

    Imagine growing up as that little girl knowing your father's side of the family killed 8 members of mom's family....for custody of you...

    • cm bs
      cm bs 2 days ago

      But remember, they did this because they love her. I think she is very fortunate that these people will not be raising her.

  • Cynthia Calhoun
    Cynthia Calhoun 16 days ago +19

    I just can’t imagine all those months of planning these murders the conversations between these family members. It’s just mind boggling!!

    • Maria Baja
      Maria Baja 14 days ago +1

      @Jodi Focht lol

    • Jodi Focht
      Jodi Focht 15 days ago +1

      @A Wright from Ohio I take it 🤔

    • Suzi Farley
      Suzi Farley 16 days ago +1

      @smokingnothinbutgood What a bizarre response.

    • A Wright
      A Wright 16 days ago +1

      @smokingnothinbutgood no they shouldn't have done it in a way that would keep them from getting caught. Why would you even say that?

    • smokingnothinbutgood
      smokingnothinbutgood 16 days ago +3

      They messed up getting armor shipped to them. Should had went to a gun show n paid cash. All the meticulous planning and thats what got them.

  • Mari C.
    Mari C. 16 days ago +9

    The way he was shot....Entirely calculated. Very much so. None of these people deserve anything less than life behind bars.

  • Fishing Pinky
    Fishing Pinky 16 days ago +21

    I am amazed this trial is getting a very light audience and comments for such a horrific crime. Probably because of all of the restrictions.

    • BeckyBoo
      BeckyBoo 9 days ago

      I've been looking forward to this trial and yes the restrictions have made me lose interest unfortunately. I've been skimming through the videos. Also witnesses opting out of even audio smh. I definitely think more could and should have been shown.

    • Maria Baja
      Maria Baja 13 days ago +2

      @🌸Just Call Me Jen🌸 Oh great, thank you I'll try to find it. I really wanna know about all of them, but especially curious about Angela, she so doesn't seem the type.

    • 🌸Just Call Me Jen🌸
      🌸Just Call Me Jen🌸 13 days ago +2

      @Maria Baja my favorite is The Piketon Massacre podcast. They do a fantastic job. They’ve traveled to the town to talk to residents in the area. There’s three seasons.

    • Maria Baja
      Maria Baja 14 days ago +2

      @🌸Just Call Me Jen🌸 Are there any shows or channels you'd suggest watching to get caught up? Thanks I haven't followed it much at all but am very interested. Sorry about your hubby 💖

    • Ladybug
      Ladybug 16 days ago +6

      I agree, I've been waiting for these trials for 6 years!!

  • Mari C.
    Mari C. 16 days ago +13

    The Wagners' should've pleaded insanity cause every single one of them is 100% there.

  • Mari C.
    Mari C. 16 days ago +10

    My God, life is so fragile 😢

  • Rosy Rodriguez
    Rosy Rodriguez 16 days ago +10

    Horrible details! 😢 it’s beyond heartbreaking 💔😞

  • Sandra Carstairs
    Sandra Carstairs 16 days ago +3

    I can’t believe this case Beyond horrible those poor people and their families my God I couldn’t even begin to imagine 😢and the poor babies just completely sickening I pray the families can find peace someday 🕊️and the victims RIP Thus is just so sad 😢

  • L. G.
    L. G. 16 days ago +11

    Love the doctor.

  • sandi fe4nandes
    sandi fe4nandes 14 days ago +2

    How can this man put this family through this trial after being involved with murdering the Rhoden family? I hope he gets life for his role.

  • tammy reinier
    tammy reinier 15 days ago +4

    get this trial going. bring jake in set these jurors minds on what really happened. jake admitted to the massacre why should he lie know. hes already said who did what.

  • Kay
    Kay 14 days ago +2

    Does anyone know why the two Georges are not being tried together? I can't imagine as a relative of the deceased family having to go through a trial twice.

    • Kay
      Kay 2 days ago

      @Elizabeth Daugherty Thanks.

    • Elizabeth Daugherty
      Elizabeth Daugherty 9 days ago +1

      I believe in Ohio, because this is a capital offense case, they have to be tried separately. In some states you can be tried together. Ohio just isn’t one of them.

  • tammy reinier
    tammy reinier 15 days ago +5

    i hope that when jake is brought in, and Angela that they dont get the choice to be on camera. make them low lifes be seen

  • Earthmagic
    Earthmagic 16 days ago +4

    On Wikipedia I just read the ghastly story of these murders. Upsetting doesn't even come close to describing it.

  • Mary Fitzpatrick
    Mary Fitzpatrick 16 days ago +12

    Tedious but necessarily detailed forensic specialist testimony. No pics. Civilized live chat.

  • Stephen Mclay
    Stephen Mclay 8 days ago +1

    I am surprised how this prosecutor says 'um' so often. Sometimes more than once in a sentence. I am not commenting on the case she's presenting. I've just never heard a clearly educated professional do this. It's very distracting

  • Anne Wyatt
    Anne Wyatt 16 days ago +2

    Of course the def wants to stipulate! Doesn’t want the horrors to be seen in trial 🤷‍♀️ State should not stipulate 🤦‍♀️

  • Jerry Rutherford
    Jerry Rutherford 15 days ago +2

    The defense attorney is just going through the motions with irrelevant questions, he should have said, “no questions, your Honor”

    • cm bs
      cm bs 2 days ago

      How is the distance shot from going to prove his client innocent? He must think it will.

  • A Wright
    A Wright 15 days ago +2

    I don't understand the point to a lot of the defense questions. They seem to just ask questions so they have something to say. Their whole defense is that he didn't shoot anyone and it was his family that shot them. Apparently his family says the same. He was there, but didn't shoot. Doesn't matter though because being there makes him just as guilty. So what's the point of asking all the questions about the fact that they were shot to death? That's obviously what happened. Maybe I'm missing something.
    *and now he's going into caffeine, toe fungus and tattoos. What does that have to do with anything??

  • WalkerD
    WalkerD 15 days ago +2

    Can y'all PLEASE put what day of the trial it is at the Beginning of your title? (eg, Day 5). It's a nightmare how tangled these live feeds are

  • Anni
    Anni 16 days ago +20

    Female prosecutor says “Umm” nearly every sentence, bad habit that’s annoying to keep hearing. If the jury get annoyed by her too, it could affect their decision or concentration, male prosecutor is far more fluid. On live chat everyone’s commenting on her, just listening to some points again with headphones on & screamed “ UMMMMM” got so frustrated! Pray the jury don’t feel like I do! 🙏

    • smw0124
      smw0124 5 days ago

      I couldn’t finish her opening statement, just dreadful.

    • Jerry Rutherford
      Jerry Rutherford 15 days ago

      She’s getting the job done, move on if you don’t like it

    • Anni
      Anni 16 days ago

      @A Wright That’s my concern, the jury. Doesn’t matter if I’m screaming out loud or in my head I’m not sat with no escape having to make a judgment. From listening to some jurors after a case it’s not always what we think as observer’s make up their minds, would they ever admit it was the prosecutor’s “Ummms”. Every time she stands the Defence mist want to clap! 🤯😤 Really wish someone would tell her?

    • A Wright
      A Wright 16 days ago +2

      I find myself counting her umms and not remembering what she just said. Hope the jury isn't doing that!

    • Lisa Sayler
      Lisa Sayler 16 days ago

      Agree

  • Dave S
    Dave S 14 days ago +1

    None of this is important. Could’ve been a one day trial. It’s ALL going to be decided by the family members testimony and whether or not the jury believes them.

  • Christine Brophy
    Christine Brophy 16 days ago +9

    So many restrictions rather boring case to watch .......surely showing xrays is not "horrific" to viewers!

  • Brea McDade-Gallagher
    Brea McDade-Gallagher 16 days ago +2

    21:00 forensic pathologist testimony

  • Anne Wyatt
    Anne Wyatt 16 days ago +5

    Why is the camera guy moving around and around!?? It’s terrible! Just focus on one thing ffs 🤦‍♀️

  • Jane
    Jane 15 days ago

    PURE EVIL!!

  • Jodi Focht
    Jodi Focht 15 days ago +2

    When are the other killer's Testifying ?

  • Barbara James
    Barbara James 11 days ago

    All thoes people that participated in planning and carrying out this execution deserve the death penalty and nothing less, God is just !

  • Helen Sweebe
    Helen Sweebe 3 days ago

    That person hacking and coughing all the time should be asked to leave the court room and get a drink, so annoying!!!!!

  • Anni
    Anni 16 days ago +15

    Male prosecutor is far more affective at communicating & no “ ummmms” such a relief?!

    • A Wright
      A Wright 16 days ago +1

      @Alpha Omega when I'm having trouble remembering what she said because I'm so focused on the "ummm uh aaaaand ummms", it's definitely a legitimate concern for the jury. If any of them are as distracted as I am, or irritated, then it's a problem. It doesn't come across like she is prepared or knows what's going on. All of these things can and do influence jurors. It's a huge disservice to the family and after so many years she should've known this case like the back of her hand. She should've been practicing and preparing so she can get justice for the family of the 8 victims!

    • Anni
      Anni 16 days ago +1

      @Alpha Omega it’s not about being perfect, it’s about annoying the jury so much that they stop listening to her.

    • Alpha Omega
      Alpha Omega 16 days ago +5

      Yeah, why must humans be different and imperfect. Maybe they need their own planet.

  • tammy reinier
    tammy reinier 15 days ago

    could be the reason he got it worse than the others. he probably refused to open safe. remember they were best friends so they knew what was kept in safe. maybe didnt know amount but being best friends he seen that safe before.

  • Kista Allman
    Kista Allman 6 days ago

    I can't decide whether the plies or the moss on the trailer is going to break the case. Smh

  • Tim Spencer
    Tim Spencer 16 days ago +11

    #1 UUUUMMMMMMMMMMM
    #2 LIP SMACKING and if that is going to make the people at home tune out that are watching this trial, imagine the jury and how bad they want to get out of there

  • cahallc
    cahallc 16 days ago +8

    Oh lordy the ummmm lady is back🤦‍♂️

  • L M
    L M 14 days ago +1

    This is a waste of taxpayers money for this trial his brother and mother plead guilty to this horrible crying of killing eight family members.and he pleads not guilty as if he believes the jury will find him not guilty I guarantee he will not take the stand

  • Stephanie K
    Stephanie K 16 days ago +9

    Does the defendant sleep in his outfit? Looks the same every day.

    • Priscillia Carter
      Priscillia Carter 7 days ago

      He has been wearing this vest from the beginning of all his trials

    • Susan H
      Susan H 16 days ago

      Not sure who he can have contact with since his grandma & great grandma were involved in the beginning but I doubt anyone is going to the jail every day to pick up his clothes to go wash them. He obviously sleeps in his jail duds & can only change out into civilian clothes for court. Maybe his lawyer is washing his clothes for him.

    • Very Nearly Pure
      Very Nearly Pure 16 days ago

      @Kaz Bee oh wow! I have no idea now.

  • Hunny Bunny's Sunshine Living ☀️

    WHAT IS WITH THIS CAMERA MAN... GOD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!!! RIDICULOUS...

    • Hunny Bunny's Sunshine Living ☀️
      Hunny Bunny's Sunshine Living ☀️ 16 days ago

      @Samantha Cooper I WASN'T REFERRING TO SHOWING CERTAIN DOC'S... I'M REFERRING TO THE PANNING IN AND OUT AND BIZARRE MOVEMENTS LIKE HE'S ON A BOAT... I'M A PHOTOGRAPHER, JUST FOCUS ON THE COURTROOM AS A WHOLE PLEASE.

    • Angie Lennex
      Angie Lennex 16 days ago +2

      @Samantha Cooper if they are showing it to the gallery then they should be able to show it on here…very aggravating this trial is the worst coverage I’ve ever seen

    • Samantha Cooper
      Samantha Cooper 16 days ago +2

      They aren't allowed to show certain photos and documents. So when those pieces of evidence are shown the camera has to pan away from the screens as to not accidentally capture the evidence being shown on the TV screens in the court room

  • matthew wade
    matthew wade 16 days ago

    CAMERA MAN is so bad please law and crime replace asap

  • The Roonster
    The Roonster 16 days ago +11

    Why not show xrays?

    • Cindy Ambach
      Cindy Ambach 15 days ago

      @A Wright well I'm an x-ray tech and I've seen horrific skull x-rays from any gun. But that's me

    • The Roonster
      The Roonster 15 days ago

      @Cindy Ambach Seems like the over glamorization of the murders themselves has already flown the coop when the defense objected to how many times the very same families you mention had to endure those actual crime scene photos of the victims in court earlier. I cannot see where xrays at this point would shock them anymore than actual photos of said injuries.

    • A Wright
      A Wright 16 days ago

      @Cindy Ambach maybe if you are looking at shotgun injury xrays. Regular gunshot xrays are not horrific. Most look completely normal other than a bullet or pieces of a bullet lodged in different areas. The only horrific ones I've ever seen are from a shotgun, especially in the face.

    • Cindy Ambach
      Cindy Ambach 16 days ago

      Ever see an x-ray of a person that's been shot in the head? Very horrific. I used to work in x-ray and these injuries wouldn't be something the family would want to see.

  • cm bs
    cm bs 3 days ago

    Must suck to sit there while every detail of the horrible things you did to your friends are exposed to the world.

  • Michelle Carpenter
    Michelle Carpenter 16 days ago +2

    Jury trial or bench trial?

  • Pat Murray
    Pat Murray 16 days ago +4

    The slo mo camera work is annoying. Worst court videography ever

    • Lori Magisch
      Lori Magisch 16 days ago +1

      I take it you've never seen fast video. First off it's hard to stay steady, centered. Move quick if you want the trial to look like Blair Witch Project. They move from one subject to another because they aren't just there for live streaming. There job is to get good shots that their employer can use or if independent, good shots to sell.

  • Lori Magisch
    Lori Magisch 16 days ago +1

    This pathologist reminds me of Rachel Maddow. Not only in looks but personality in some ways (if she had to talk about the most serious topics)

    • T Jones
      T Jones 16 days ago

      What an insult

  • Glow Monster
    Glow Monster 16 days ago +2

    Making the Dr hold up the bloody sweatshirt was inappropriate I think

    • Glow Monster
      Glow Monster 15 days ago

      Why couldn't the lawyer hold it up ? Why the Dr ? All dressed up nice for court .

    • Joni LANDOLT
      Joni LANDOLT 15 days ago +3

      it's evidence. it needs to be seen.

    • A Wright
      A Wright 16 days ago +3

      She's showing it to the jury because they need to see all of the evidence. How is that inappropriate?

  • Cindy Ambach
    Cindy Ambach 16 days ago +2

    Ummmm

  • SweetSherie
    SweetSherie 16 days ago +3

    I can’t get over the condition of the Courtroom. They need to fix that courtroom. Wires everywhere, dents in the wall,the wood looks like crap. I have never seen a courtroom so messed up.. imo

    • K P64
      K P64 4 days ago

      Yeah I said the same thing!! Looks like an older court room the benches must be some they brought in from out in the hall way!! Can you imagine sitting on that bench all day!! Hopefully they brought a cushion to sit on!!

    • Abe Buckingham
      Abe Buckingham 15 days ago +2

      It's one of the poorest places in the country. They're lucky to have a courtroom at all.