Yeah it's a let down to build the review up so much and then just be like "nah" at the last second. I have faith this is not the last we'll hear about this show from him though.
And let’s not forget one of the writers, Kate Leth made her infamous “Kill All Men” social media posts, and a few years later, she refused to apologize over it while blaming critics for, in her own words, not understanding she was “Tumblrpilled.”
@@nickytembo4112Knowing she wrote the episode where Sage complains about guys don’t understand feelings in front of Snapdragon and instead of having Snapdragon call her out with her sexist talk, she called her out for not realizing Snapdragon is a girl, it ain’t coincidence enough.
I will say the show is definitely fun to pick apart. For example the whole "New Magic" completely breaks any kind of tension the show could possibly have since it can apparently "do anything".
Not just that, the whole thing seems to be an obvious set up with the rot thing that they introduced being the ultimate drawback for being able to "do anything" and that there is always a cost. Instead that just never happens. In fact both of those supplots never pay off. The rot is never cured nor even understood and sage just kinda gets over herself and starts using new magic and seemingly accepts that its just better than old magic. Truly baffling.
Then, as uniquenameosaurus pointed out when he did this, in one scene, new magic went from "literally better in every conceivable way" to "only a moron would get within a country mile of this when a more tedious but infinitely safer method exists"
@@tobiasbayer4866 I could see curing the Rot being left to a never-happening season 2. But the vagueness of how Old and New Magic work is still annoying, particularly since one of the main characters' conflicts revolves around how these two magic systems operate and which one she will learn. Kinda need some specifics in order to get invested in that arc. And of course how episode 4 and kinda episode 5 seem to be going for Old/New Magic being a metaphor for conservative/liberal values, but that's its own whole mess...
Part of me wishes you didn't have to torture yourself like this That being said, I appreciate your honest stance on how terrible it is. This show should be used to know what NOT to do with making a show similar to this
@@ethanmacdonald8568 Difference of course is he LIKED (most of) the first 4 seasons of MLP, because the staff actually gave a damn about its quality… With HGS, I can't say the top staff didn't care, but everyone can agree they were horrifically incompetent while the grunt-workers (animators, sound producers) definitely didn't care
A few years ago I would have been excited to see this how ripped apart and raged at. But now that I've gotten sick of the whole caustic critic schtick, I'm eager to see a more chill Mr. Enter give a detailed look at the problems this show has. I just worry for the loss of brain cells it may induce.
Majority of the people whom watch the trailer predicted to be bad and they were right. It focused more on the people behind the scenes rather than explain their "passion" project and it didn't help that when they do, their speech is all over place rather than cohesive narrative as if this is the first time they are explaining what the project/show is about.
It's funny, after watching many videos on the subject of HGS, I got a bit inspired to rework the elements of the story to actually function properly; starting with the villain who would be a by product of the calamity 'new' magic caused to the 'old' magic of the world. I also redesigned the looks of the main 4 and renamed the characters to actually have Spice names before I ended up putting that small jumble of thoughts into a hiatus.
The fucked up part for me is that I watched the whole thing drunk on a dare. Fucking loved it and later realized like 90% of what I like was my mind filling in for empty gaps ^^U helped me get back into high fantasy though so there's that
You know, something just hit me. There are a LOT of similarities between HGS and The Owl House. High Guardian Spice's primary themes are magic and witchcraft, where a largely-female cast come of age and grow to become better and stronger. All the while, the show wishes to implement themes of acceptance and empowerment to minority and marginzalized groups; including women, people of colour, the LGBT community, and disabled people. During the show's tremendous delay, Disney showed up and decided to outsmart CrunchyRoll in every aspect. The Owl House is largely worked on by a diverse cast and crew (Being the fourth show or so in Disney Channel's 40-year history to be created by a woman), took place in a world of demonics and magic, and prominently features characters that fit the aforementioned groups. I've not seen HGS myself, but from what I've heard, it seems like The Owl House shared incredibly similar goals and ambitions WITHOUT being insanely hamfisted or patronizing. The crew didn't shamelessly brag about their team's diveristy, the show treated its LGBT, disabled, etc. characters as human and ordinary as anybody else, all while keeping the most attention to a powerful and developing story that also falls into the "progressive" net. And it managed to air a season and a half in between HGS's planned and final release. I almost feel bad for High Guardian Spice. It spent much of its development hell being outsmarted by a similar show that came to grow a huge following and universal acclaim.
Both were Highly ambitious, but HGS had backing from a hive mind studio while Owl House was funded by a parasitic relationship. Owl house is still solid for what it is
I love how we never actually find out what a guardian is, throughout the entire show they never took a couple minutes to explain that. For all we know guardians are simply the world’s greatest bakers who gather their own exotic ingredients
Honestly, I'd still have to agree with her. It's bad, definitely, but they were obviously focused on making the show "diverse" more than actually making it good. There's a potential that the flaws with the animation, writing and characters likely wouldn't be so awful if they weren't basically filling out a quota of how many women needed to be part of the production instead of "are they fit for the job? Great! Bring them in! This one turned out to be a woman? That doesn't matter because she's qualified, so let her in! This one's a guy? He's qualified, so add him to the team!" However, they didn't do that and likely didn't screen the women (or probably even the few token men) they chose to hire for actual talent, and so we got something that's now a sexist icon. As such, I think it really is the need to prioritize pandering to women (and apparently other minority groups later on) that ultimately destroyed any chance of this show being remotely decent. It might have turned out to be a piece of crap anyway, but that's impossible to know now, and even then, pandering to minorities like we're preschoolers, if not worse than preschoolers is morally wrong anyway, and I'll just be glad if it doesn't turn out that they tried to do it to Hispanics or those on the Autism Spectrum (which are the two types of minority groups I belong to).
So, it went from a milestone video for Animated Atrocities, to being close to a semi-movie, and now it's going to be a 12-14-episode series. Not only that, but you made several Admirable Animations between this and your Brave review! This is going to be a lot of fun, I can tell. The only thing I hope is that you're finally done bashing yourself. Because even if the stuff you actually did (and weren't falsely accused of by legitimately hatful people who target everyone the same way and hide behind the "good cause" excuse) was as bad as everyone, including yourself make it out to be (I don't think so by the way), it still makes for a very uncomfortable experience because you often get on a roll in saying how much you suck to the point where you only like a very small handful of your own videos. Though with all that said, I haven't watched the series, and after hearing about the trailer (mainly from Mr Enter's video on it) I don't have any desire to do so, I want to ask everyone else something. Whether you actually watched the show or only heard of some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, what do you all think is the worst part about it? Is it the animation errors, the crappy plot/characters, the, what I like to call "minority stroking" (which is basically when a show decides to pander to minorities and hide behind them to avoid criticism, which is my personal pick for the worst aspect because it's a major pet peeve of mine), or is it something else?
I've watched criticism videos on it, and to me, the worst is definitely the virtue signaling, or "minority stroking" as you called it. The statement about how they focused on diversity immediately followed by the writer's room being all women would be peak comedy if it wasn't so stupid. Like, they really said that, edited it, then shipped it out thinking there was nothing wrong with that. They are playing right into the negative stereotypes associated with people who advocate for inclusion, diversity, etc. and that really hurts their cause. I think most people couldn't care less what the gender or age of someone making something is as long as it's good. A show that's diverse and good is definitely progressive. A show that's diverse and is bad will just be forgotten, but then High Guardian Spice is bad and shoves its diversity down your throat. This is what makes it regressive and antagonizes those who don't agree with its politics. I've experienced some stories where although my opinions didn't align with the authors/writers at all, yet it made me consider things I never did before and gave me something to think about. You need to respect your audience, that's the difference. I don't want to get too much into the politics so I'll just leave it at this: This terrible show being bad is completely independent of their gender, race, political opinions, background, and anything else about their attributes outside of writing. Anyone who says different is just being disingenuous and trying to add a point to their political faction despite it being not relevant. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
@@megaultrasonic Quite frankly, minorities shouldn't even be a political issue, and I find it a sure sign that whoever uses us like that are corrupt whether they're a politician or not. The only saving grace is that I haven't heard any rumors of the creators trying to call people "minority haters" if they say they don't like their show, but even that small thing might not even be the case after I look deeper.
This show is like a lovecraftian horror: we can learn things from it, but in order to learn those things you have to endure its presence without going completely insane.
It does fit though: DT The Movie was a movie and Jumping the shark moment Boss Baby was the movie that officially started the dreamworks Nosedive sellout phase Both were never reviewed by Enter before and are awful ideas Both have infamous legacy of being cashgrabs that "succeeded" and help spawn abominations down the line (DT The Movie is the reason adult animation gotten nastier without being less censorious)
A belated inevitability tbh. Remember CR deviated funds to this while Tokyo Terevi was pressuring them to pay overdue licensing fees. CR doesn't deserve your money.
I kind of like the idea of an entire series on one show. ShadyDoorags and Reviewed2Death get a lot of mileage on going full-bore into King of the Hill.
@@saiyanscaris6530 Velma was hates the moment the trailer dropped. High Guardian Spice failed because of the woke propaganda and bad writing. You can tell many of these woke shows hate males.
As someone with minority traits, I've hated it when people use minorities like this as a teen and I've come to outright loathe it as I got older. I'm just glad that Hispanics and those on the Autism Spectrum (the aforementioned minority traits I have) are the least likely to be hit with what I like to call "minority stroking" (which could be seen as another term for "woke" that just calls it what it really is), because I'd end up being embarrassed even more than I already am every time media like this gets created to worship us minorities while standing to kill the "evil majority" that most definitely wants to enslave and/or kill us even though they could've done so long before I was born and actually saved several minority groups from that exact fate.
Its not exactly forced if the writers wanted to do it that way and were open about wanting it to be that way. There were plenty of other reason why its bad.
@@tobiasbayer4866 It's also possible to try and force yourself to eat ice cream if you want to eat it anyway after you get full. Just because you want to, doesn't mean you're not trying to force the outcome you want. And even then, just by looking at the animation errors, it's clear that the animators weren't screened for talent, but rather if they lacked a Y Chromosome.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Mr. Enter delves into the episodes. Mainly because part of what makes High Guardian Spice so fascinating to so many people is not just how bad it is; but particularly how many aspects of the show are interesting, and could make for a good show if developed more, but the writers just didn't give them the attention needed. It had a lot of potential, which is more than can be said of many bad shows. ... And the controversy, as Mr. Enter did point out here. If not for being released on by Crunchyroll, and the fiasco that ensued from that, High Guardian Spice probably would have come and gone as just another bad cartoon, without a lot of fanfare. But here we are.
My man, I am looking forward to this! I have seen so many reviews about what HGS did wrong and, well, there is always something different to say! It's amazing how the crew botched the production of this show so badly. I look forward to your thoughts.
Well, that was unexpected. I understand about why you gave up on it as your Animated Atrocity 200. I don’t think I could handle 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I’m not the only one either. Well, at least you are keeping the kind of specialty that you planned to do with this show. Good luck.
This is a show that anyone can tell had big production woes. Clearly, nobody in this project had fun making this series. That sucks for them, sucks for us, and sucks for animation as a whole. I wondered what happened there. Are animators not being paid? Was morale low? Did the files get deleted unexpectedly? Edit: I looked up stories about the show, and the main issue with the show was its budget. Crunchyroll didn't give the studio (filled with non-union workers) the resources to fulfill the creator's vision. "The show had 1/3 the budget of a typical Western show," says Sofia Alexander. Ouch.
As a lover of fantasy and video games I have watched a few episodes of HGS. The entire time I was brainstorming ideas for what magical powers Rose, Thyme, & Parsley should have as well as what monsters they would run into before reaching their destination.
One interesting thing to note was that High Guardian Spice actually created a butterfly effect in the animation industry and the perception towards "woke" storytelling in animation that years later, in the present, HGS was the reason why people wanted creative AI to progress further in order to make "woke" animators lose their jobs and shift the current state of Western animation for the "better". Such people believed that Western animation nowadays are plagued by talentless people like the creators of HGS and were controlled by agenda-driven companies, so much so that it displaced people with real creative talent out of the spotlight.
Too many people hear "This show makes the cause of advocating for more diversity and women look terrible" and pretend "Rawr I hate women lmao" was said instead.
That's the best part of making a show with females/minorities/gays: if/when it fails, you can blame it on small-mind, bigoted haters over any actual, even obvious flaws! 😉
Saying that their writing team was 100% female was such a weird thing to brag about. I guess in their minds, having even 1 man in there would have made things worse... because reasons?
What's hilarious is that the show suffers from an unusual problem that it shares with Velma; The most likable and interesting characters are the ones the writers want you to hate. Pretty sure everyone's favorite character is Amaryllis if it's not Snapdragon.
While Amaryllis did start out as basically a bully I think she was always suppossed to have a redemption arc. Except that arc never happens. She just kinda stops being a bully on her own. She is just sassy most of the time. But the way she treats snapdragon shows to me that shes supposed to be the bratty rich girl with a heart of gold archetype. Similar to Pacifica Northwest. The characters we are actually supposed to are people like that dude who made fun of Snapdragon and the guys who Rosemary had a crush on but turned out to be sexist. The reason why in Velma Fred is the most likeable ist because he is actually allowed to have flaws unlike the rest of the main characters. In HGS thats not the case.
im honestly surprised he chose boss baby instead. even if you count it and the sequels combined its still way better than high guardian spice or velma. those 2 are way worse and honestly should have been picked for 200
@@saiyanscaris6530 It may due because it's DreamWorks and he knows they can do better but, the company simply choses not too. Velma and the High Guardian Spice are practically products of nepotism, one from having a celebrity saving it from being easily dropped by tge studio and the other being financed with the money they collect from suscriptions which it was proven that it doesn't go to the anime studios.
John, I am telling you this as someone who actually wrote a review on this: do not draw it out. If you mist review it, do it thoroughly but not to where it drives you up a wall. Believe me, the show gets even basic writing principles, whether it's Western principles like the Five points and Three Acts or even Japanese ones like _Kishokentetsu_ , so painfully wrong that you'd normally have to get them wrong on purpose. I am asking you to be careful; not in the risk of offending someone but out of genuine concern. This is the worst of 2021, after all.
@@saiyanscaris6530 That's like asking if I prefer being shot with a .950 Fatmac round or getting kicked in the Gooch with a bladed boot by a soccer player from FIFA.
@@saiyanscaris6530Oh yeah, context: The SSK .950 JDJ is a "Sporting Rifle" known to shoot the .950 "Fatmac" bullet, which is a literal ONE POUND round and will blow you wide open and destroy the person that shot the rifle.
@@b3rz3rk3r9 So it's the difference between a guaranteed but quick death or a painfully experience you could technically survive but you'll need to have a high enough will to live in order to not wish for death to take you instead. That's honestly kind of hard to choose.
@lmrpirate5273 Technically, you COULD survive being shot by the Fatmac with the right positioning, but at that point would be come more "Should I" or "Do I" instead of "Could I" given that I'd be both horribly crippled and in crippling pain. But yeah, that about sums it up.
Yeah, when they announced it back then, I almost immediately stopped my subscription. Not because it looked bad, woke, cashgrabby or anything in between those terms, but because I was paying a subscription entirely because some part of the money went to the creators. Crunchyroll as a platform sucked for the longest time and in a way it still does. How do crappy sites that host the shows on free servers have better streaming quality than an official subscription based platform? Still I dealt with it because I thought I was supporting the studios that made the shows. But when they announced that they were starting their own studio I realized that they couldn't care less about the creators and if they have enough money to start founding their own shows, then the money people were giving them weren't going to the right places.
And the streaming networks still question why people pirate anime instead of using their services to "support" Japanese animators... If you want to support an anime, just buy official merch and stuff like that, don't help liars.
Once secret of starlight and the end of make your mark comes out on thanksgiving 2023. Will you make a video on my little pony g5? I really want to hear your thoughts on it. Since i saw that deviantart picture on what if mr enter reviews mlp g5
For a show devoted to diversity and inclusion, it was extremely attached to the gender binary. They didn't even have a token nonbinary character! (Parnell is a boy.) This is a fantasy setting, where there's an excuse for the characters to not have the same idea of gender as some bigot in Tallahassee or whatever. Why is it a huge deal for Snapdragon to cross-dress in a world where getting jewelry wet can make you into a mermaid? As a nonbinary person, this aspect of the show is INCREDIBLY annoying. I don't expect there to be a nonbinary character in every show (there are some shows, like Family Guy, where I'd prefer if they didn't touch nonbinary characters with a 59½ foot pole), but if you're going to make a show solely marketed on diversity/inclusion/representation, my standards for representation are going to be a lot higher.
- Talks about creating a diverse working environment - Boasts about the writers' room being 100% female. I feel like these people don't understand what diverse means.
Pirating is the way to go. If you want to support a show buy the manga, blue-rays, dolls or associated merchandise from the show. Supporting "streaming services" that botch the original and hate their consumers is not the way to go.
im in the "audience" that type of traler wants to apeal to, but when i see that type of traler all i think is "ahh, so they dont have anything actualy good about the work, so they want to sell it on politicks" and i know that just ends up feeding the "go woke, go broke" morons, who dont understand the market of whatever medium they are talking about, or that thease are basicaly the lefts version of pureflix movies, but made by people who care even less about the politicks involved, as both are only really praised by people with an agenda or not enough experience with media to have literacy mater.
correction to the description, not an anime. it's on an anime streaming service that is otherwise dedicated exclusively to anime and shows that attempt to be anime but this show is not supposed to be an anime, and was shown to many networks before landing on this one. oh this is just an announcement of a criticism, that's why it's so short
As bad as this anime is, i just hope that the people working on it didn't get too much hate and death threats. No bad piece of media is worth harming the well being of the people working on it.
Honestly, I didn’t know you edited this video until the end. You said before your editing sucks for your earlier videos, and while I haven’t seen a lot of them, I can say that your editing has improved since then. Keep it up!
Is it me or does anyone else feel like they mixed Steven Universe with RWBY but with the bad side of them. HGS had that many animation errors to where it could take 6 hours to go through them are they taking advice from transformers G1 animation errors.
Even if they hadn't marketed it as such the end product still would have been an ultra woke disaster pushing every left wing talking point excessively. I don't mind people putting some of their perspective in their work but the blatant glorification of ones own point of view while opposing points of view and their arguments are never give fair credence just makes your show propaganda and doesn't actually provide anything worthwhile to the discussion. It just comes across narcissistic
What? The only left talking point in it is that there are trans people in this show. And "trans people exist" isnt exactly a boundary pushing statement. The real political stuff has to do with the irl people that made it. Nothing in the show.
The problem w/ HGS is that the Crunchyroll showrunners overhyped it as "unique and amazing" only to rip off other shows. This show is basically a bootleg RWBY. Fun fact: RWBY volume 1 was released in 2013.
This was an animated atrocity we all saw coming.
this was the animated atrocity we were all WAITING for XD
Honestly, i wouldnt have minded seeing a 2 hour video from you.
Yeah it's a let down to build the review up so much and then just be like "nah" at the last second. I have faith this is not the last we'll hear about this show from him though.
@@SeaStarTea I get it. It's unfortunate but I get it.
i think this video is ment to be a trailer for the video
Becaue there would undoubtedly have been a snot load of “hurrrr long bad” if he actually did.
i could lowkey fall asleep watching it instead of my usual audiobooks
thats how good enter can be sometimes at this review stuff
No matter how hard it tries, High Guardian Spice will never get its own cereal.
Aww, man.
it will never get a sci-fi spinoff called High Guardian Space
Probably for the best, it would taste like the show.
Not even instant oatmeal
This cut me deep for some reason -- and I don't even like the show!
And let’s not forget one of the writers, Kate Leth made her infamous “Kill All Men” social media posts, and a few years later, she refused to apologize over it while blaming critics for, in her own words, not understanding she was “Tumblrpilled.”
Wow, it’s like the show was made out of spite.
@@nickytembo4112Knowing she wrote the episode where Sage complains about guys don’t understand feelings in front of Snapdragon and instead of having Snapdragon call her out with her sexist talk, she called her out for not realizing Snapdragon is a girl, it ain’t coincidence enough.
I wish to Kate the most horrible life hope she'll lose everything and get denied of any future jobs.
@@nickytembo4112If THIS show was made from spite, Velma was made from malice only achieved by hellbeings.
She should be questioned for genocidal threats
Thanks to Velma I forgot this show was even a thing
This show became so bad its good because of Velma.
Velma killed this show hard.
At least this show it's its own thing and does not blemish an otherwise good franchise.
I will say the show is definitely fun to pick apart.
For example the whole "New Magic" completely breaks any kind of tension the show could possibly have since it can apparently "do anything".
Not just that, the whole thing seems to be an obvious set up with the rot thing that they introduced being the ultimate drawback for being able to "do anything" and that there is always a cost. Instead that just never happens. In fact both of those supplots never pay off. The rot is never cured nor even understood and sage just kinda gets over herself and starts using new magic and seemingly accepts that its just better than old magic. Truly baffling.
Then, as uniquenameosaurus pointed out when he did this, in one scene, new magic went from "literally better in every conceivable way" to "only a moron would get within a country mile of this when a more tedious but infinitely safer method exists"
sounds like the advertising of the average MMO
@@tobiasbayer4866 I could see curing the Rot being left to a never-happening season 2. But the vagueness of how Old and New Magic work is still annoying, particularly since one of the main characters' conflicts revolves around how these two magic systems operate and which one she will learn. Kinda need some specifics in order to get invested in that arc.
And of course how episode 4 and kinda episode 5 seem to be going for Old/New Magic being a metaphor for conservative/liberal values, but that's its own whole mess...
Part of me wishes you didn't have to torture yourself like this
That being said, I appreciate your honest stance on how terrible it is. This show should be used to know what NOT to do with making a show similar to this
On one hand, I wish he wouldnt torture himself
On the other, there's popcorn.
@@icarue993I see what you did there.
Uniquenameosuarus. He did an in depth breakdown, episode by episode.
Enter reviewing a show episode by episode?
As some who remembers the days of his G4 MLP reviews im throughly invested
@@ethanmacdonald8568 Difference of course is he LIKED (most of) the first 4 seasons of MLP, because the staff actually gave a damn about its quality…
With HGS, I can't say the top staff didn't care, but everyone can agree they were horrifically incompetent while the grunt-workers (animators, sound producers) definitely didn't care
A few years ago I would have been excited to see this how ripped apart and raged at. But now that I've gotten sick of the whole caustic critic schtick, I'm eager to see a more chill Mr. Enter give a detailed look at the problems this show has. I just worry for the loss of brain cells it may induce.
Majority of the people whom watch the trailer predicted to be bad and they were right.
It focused more on the people behind the scenes rather than explain their "passion" project and it didn't help that when they do, their speech is all over place rather than cohesive narrative as if this is the first time they are explaining what the project/show is about.
If anything, this shows just a glorified vanity project for a group of narcissists with daddy issues to boost their fragile egos
Out of all the animated atrocities, this is the most deserving
Which is sad because this show looks very promising.
@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293I am not too sure about that. Nothing stood out that much to begin with.
Velma...
It's funny, after watching many videos on the subject of HGS, I got a bit inspired to rework the elements of the story to actually function properly; starting with the villain who would be a by product of the calamity 'new' magic caused to the 'old' magic of the world. I also redesigned the looks of the main 4 and renamed the characters to actually have Spice names before I ended up putting that small jumble of thoughts into a hiatus.
The fucked up part for me is that I watched the whole thing drunk on a dare. Fucking loved it and later realized like 90% of what I like was my mind filling in for empty gaps ^^U helped me get back into high fantasy though so there's that
The characters are named after herbs not spices lol
The creator actually blocked people who pointed that out and called him an idiot apparently it’s a reference to a song
@@roboticturtle8822 > *apparently it’s a reference to a song*
Scarborough Fair / Canticle as made famous by Simon & Garfunkel?
I like High Guardian Spice more than Velma, at least HGS is bad in a "So bad it's good" way
It also has some good characters like Slimeboy, Amaryllis and Snapdragon.
By all means, this train wreck of a show will live on forever as a cautionary tale for aspiring authors everywhere.
You know, something just hit me. There are a LOT of similarities between HGS and The Owl House.
High Guardian Spice's primary themes are magic and witchcraft, where a largely-female cast come of age and grow to become better and stronger. All the while, the show wishes to implement themes of acceptance and empowerment to minority and marginzalized groups; including women, people of colour, the LGBT community, and disabled people. During the show's tremendous delay, Disney showed up and decided to outsmart CrunchyRoll in every aspect. The Owl House is largely worked on by a diverse cast and crew (Being the fourth show or so in Disney Channel's 40-year history to be created by a woman), took place in a world of demonics and magic, and prominently features characters that fit the aforementioned groups.
I've not seen HGS myself, but from what I've heard, it seems like The Owl House shared incredibly similar goals and ambitions WITHOUT being insanely hamfisted or patronizing. The crew didn't shamelessly brag about their team's diveristy, the show treated its LGBT, disabled, etc. characters as human and ordinary as anybody else, all while keeping the most attention to a powerful and developing story that also falls into the "progressive" net. And it managed to air a season and a half in between HGS's planned and final release.
I almost feel bad for High Guardian Spice. It spent much of its development hell being outsmarted by a similar show that came to grow a huge following and universal acclaim.
In other words, one show had Eda Clawthorne...And the other was High Guardian Spice.
I'll take the Owl Lady, thank you very much.
@@smashmaster521same here
Both were Highly ambitious, but HGS had backing from a hive mind studio while Owl House was funded by a parasitic relationship. Owl house is still solid for what it is
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast Just to clarify, when you say "Parasitic relationship," you mean between the show's crew and the Disney higher-ups?
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast I have been calling Disney a "Fair-weathered friend" lately
Perhaps that counts as parasitic
I would love to see a 2+ hour video from you, I need more ling form content to listen to while at work
Yeah
I'd like that too
I would like to see his Spongebob and Family Guy animated atrocities for 2 hours
“What day is it?” Asked Pooh
“The day we burn High Guardian Spice to the ground.” Said Mr. Enter
“My favorite day” said Pooh
The people who work on this show look EXACTLY how I thought they would.
Been waiting 2 freaking years to hear your thoughts on this, even though I basically already knew what you'd think of it.
Me too.
Their first mistake was not knowing the difference between kids media that appealed to adults, and adult media with a childish aesthetic.
The writing is both obscenely brutal and childish at the same time.
High Guardian Spice Aka: Little Witch Academia on cocaine.
Little Witch Academia but super awful
If any show deserves to be eviscerated in a lengthy, angry, vitriol filled review, it's this show.
No, no, we in the anime community have memed on this show for years now
I love how we never actually find out what a guardian is, throughout the entire show they never took a couple minutes to explain that. For all we know guardians are simply the world’s greatest bakers who gather their own exotic ingredients
I thought this show was done...
...but it's great to see people still ripping it a new one.
Some people never stopped (seriously Guardian HQ is STILL making videos about it).
You know this show is unforgivably awful when Enter couldn't even put the "Animated Atrocities" on the title.
Would Abomination be better or worse quality than Atrocity?
My boy this just the trailer for the series, mr.enter needs his own miniseries to bash it.
There's a silver lining- I'm writing a fantasy adventure and I can look at HGS to figure out what NOT to do. Thanks, Crunchyroll!
Sarah Z made a video about how HGS wouldn't get nearly as much hate if it weren't woke. Like, did she and her echo chamber even see the same series?
Honestly, I'd still have to agree with her. It's bad, definitely, but they were obviously focused on making the show "diverse" more than actually making it good. There's a potential that the flaws with the animation, writing and characters likely wouldn't be so awful if they weren't basically filling out a quota of how many women needed to be part of the production instead of "are they fit for the job? Great! Bring them in! This one turned out to be a woman? That doesn't matter because she's qualified, so let her in! This one's a guy? He's qualified, so add him to the team!"
However, they didn't do that and likely didn't screen the women (or probably even the few token men) they chose to hire for actual talent, and so we got something that's now a sexist icon. As such, I think it really is the need to prioritize pandering to women (and apparently other minority groups later on) that ultimately destroyed any chance of this show being remotely decent. It might have turned out to be a piece of crap anyway, but that's impossible to know now, and even then, pandering to minorities like we're preschoolers, if not worse than preschoolers is morally wrong anyway, and I'll just be glad if it doesn't turn out that they tried to do it to Hispanics or those on the Autism Spectrum (which are the two types of minority groups I belong to).
I cannot wait to see you go through this show in detail. It’ll be very much worth it.
So, it went from a milestone video for Animated Atrocities, to being close to a semi-movie, and now it's going to be a 12-14-episode series. Not only that, but you made several Admirable Animations between this and your Brave review! This is going to be a lot of fun, I can tell.
The only thing I hope is that you're finally done bashing yourself. Because even if the stuff you actually did (and weren't falsely accused of by legitimately hatful people who target everyone the same way and hide behind the "good cause" excuse) was as bad as everyone, including yourself make it out to be (I don't think so by the way), it still makes for a very uncomfortable experience because you often get on a roll in saying how much you suck to the point where you only like a very small handful of your own videos.
Though with all that said, I haven't watched the series, and after hearing about the trailer (mainly from Mr Enter's video on it) I don't have any desire to do so, I want to ask everyone else something. Whether you actually watched the show or only heard of some of the behind-the-scenes stuff, what do you all think is the worst part about it? Is it the animation errors, the crappy plot/characters, the, what I like to call "minority stroking" (which is basically when a show decides to pander to minorities and hide behind them to avoid criticism, which is my personal pick for the worst aspect because it's a major pet peeve of mine), or is it something else?
I've watched criticism videos on it, and to me, the worst is definitely the virtue signaling, or "minority stroking" as you called it. The statement about how they focused on diversity immediately followed by the writer's room being all women would be peak comedy if it wasn't so stupid. Like, they really said that, edited it, then shipped it out thinking there was nothing wrong with that.
They are playing right into the negative stereotypes associated with people who advocate for inclusion, diversity, etc. and that really hurts their cause. I think most people couldn't care less what the gender or age of someone making something is as long as it's good. A show that's diverse and good is definitely progressive. A show that's diverse and is bad will just be forgotten, but then High Guardian Spice is bad and shoves its diversity down your throat. This is what makes it regressive and antagonizes those who don't agree with its politics. I've experienced some stories where although my opinions didn't align with the authors/writers at all, yet it made me consider things I never did before and gave me something to think about. You need to respect your audience, that's the difference.
I don't want to get too much into the politics so I'll just leave it at this: This terrible show being bad is completely independent of their gender, race, political opinions, background, and anything else about their attributes outside of writing. Anyone who says different is just being disingenuous and trying to add a point to their political faction despite it being not relevant.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
@@megaultrasonic Quite frankly, minorities shouldn't even be a political issue, and I find it a sure sign that whoever uses us like that are corrupt whether they're a politician or not. The only saving grace is that I haven't heard any rumors of the creators trying to call people "minority haters" if they say they don't like their show, but even that small thing might not even be the case after I look deeper.
This show is like a lovecraftian horror: we can learn things from it, but in order to learn those things you have to endure its presence without going completely insane.
A bit weird that you chose the Boss Baby for Episode 200, but I can't wait to see what you can talk about with it.
The Boss Baby AND its sequel.
doesnt it have 2 sequels@@davyjones3105
It does fit though:
DT The Movie was a movie and Jumping the shark moment
Boss Baby was the movie that officially started the dreamworks Nosedive sellout phase
Both were never reviewed by Enter before and are awful ideas
Both have infamous legacy of being cashgrabs that "succeeded" and help spawn abominations down the line (DT The Movie is the reason adult animation gotten nastier without being less censorious)
@@davyjones3105How about the Netflix show?
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast Fair point.
A belated inevitability tbh. Remember CR deviated funds to this while Tokyo Terevi was pressuring them to pay overdue licensing fees.
CR doesn't deserve your money.
I kind of like the idea of an entire series on one show. ShadyDoorags and Reviewed2Death get a lot of mileage on going full-bore into King of the Hill.
The forced rainbow agenda in the show ahead of good storytelling is one of the reason why people hated this woke show and other like them.
cough velma cough
@@saiyanscaris6530 Velma was hates the moment the trailer dropped. High Guardian Spice failed because of the woke propaganda and bad writing. You can tell many of these woke shows hate males.
As someone with minority traits, I've hated it when people use minorities like this as a teen and I've come to outright loathe it as I got older. I'm just glad that Hispanics and those on the Autism Spectrum (the aforementioned minority traits I have) are the least likely to be hit with what I like to call "minority stroking" (which could be seen as another term for "woke" that just calls it what it really is), because I'd end up being embarrassed even more than I already am every time media like this gets created to worship us minorities while standing to kill the "evil majority" that most definitely wants to enslave and/or kill us even though they could've done so long before I was born and actually saved several minority groups from that exact fate.
Its not exactly forced if the writers wanted to do it that way and were open about wanting it to be that way.
There were plenty of other reason why its bad.
@@tobiasbayer4866 It's also possible to try and force yourself to eat ice cream if you want to eat it anyway after you get full. Just because you want to, doesn't mean you're not trying to force the outcome you want. And even then, just by looking at the animation errors, it's clear that the animators weren't screened for talent, but rather if they lacked a Y Chromosome.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Mr. Enter delves into the episodes.
Mainly because part of what makes High Guardian Spice so fascinating to so many people is not just how bad it is; but particularly how many aspects of the show are interesting, and could make for a good show if developed more, but the writers just didn't give them the attention needed. It had a lot of potential, which is more than can be said of many bad shows.
... And the controversy, as Mr. Enter did point out here. If not for being released on by Crunchyroll, and the fiasco that ensued from that, High Guardian Spice probably would have come and gone as just another bad cartoon, without a lot of fanfare. But here we are.
My man, I am looking forward to this! I have seen so many reviews about what HGS did wrong and, well, there is always something different to say! It's amazing how the crew botched the production of this show so badly. I look forward to your thoughts.
Marzgurl is not gonna like you for destroying this show.
Good
Like she had any credibility-_-
Hooo baby! Here we go! Let's rip this show to shreds! :D
Well, that was unexpected. I understand about why you gave up on it as your Animated Atrocity 200. I don’t think I could handle 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure I’m not the only one either.
Well, at least you are keeping the kind of specialty that you planned to do with this show. Good luck.
This is a show that anyone can tell had big production woes. Clearly, nobody in this project had fun making this series. That sucks for them, sucks for us, and sucks for animation as a whole. I wondered what happened there. Are animators not being paid? Was morale low? Did the files get deleted unexpectedly?
Edit: I looked up stories about the show, and the main issue with the show was its budget. Crunchyroll didn't give the studio (filled with non-union workers) the resources to fulfill the creator's vision.
"The show had 1/3 the budget of a typical Western show," says Sofia Alexander. Ouch.
They should’ve just kept this show in their drafts and cancelled it
Super excited!!! Pls take care not to burn yourself out with this series!
*"It's Time to Destroy High Guardian Spice"*
It's about time.
I feel like I'm back in 2021 with this video. Or 2018.
As a lover of fantasy and video games I have watched a few episodes of HGS. The entire time I was brainstorming ideas for what magical powers Rose, Thyme, & Parsley should have as well as what monsters they would run into before reaching their destination.
One interesting thing to note was that High Guardian Spice actually created a butterfly effect in the animation industry and the perception towards "woke" storytelling in animation that years later, in the present, HGS was the reason why people wanted creative AI to progress further in order to make "woke" animators lose their jobs and shift the current state of Western animation for the "better".
Such people believed that Western animation nowadays are plagued by talentless people like the creators of HGS and were controlled by agenda-driven companies, so much so that it displaced people with real creative talent out of the spotlight.
Okay, Enter, WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE A PLAY LIST FOR YOUR ADMIRAL ANIMATIONS YET?!
Too many people hear "This show makes the cause of advocating for more diversity and women look terrible" and pretend "Rawr I hate women lmao" was said instead.
That's the best part of making a show with females/minorities/gays: if/when it fails, you can blame it on small-mind, bigoted haters over any actual, even obvious flaws! 😉
More diversity, by using only women to write it, very diverse
@@andrewgreeb916 only *white* women at that...👀
I will never not laugh at the idea of an all female writing room somehow being "diverse".
Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are examples of original animation done correctly.
Saying that their writing team was 100% female was such a weird thing to brag about. I guess in their minds, having even 1 man in there would have made things worse... because reasons?
What's hilarious is that the show suffers from an unusual problem that it shares with Velma; The most likable and interesting characters are the ones the writers want you to hate.
Pretty sure everyone's favorite character is Amaryllis if it's not Snapdragon.
While Amaryllis did start out as basically a bully I think she was always suppossed to have a redemption arc. Except that arc never happens. She just kinda stops being a bully on her own. She is just sassy most of the time. But the way she treats snapdragon shows to me that shes supposed to be the bratty rich girl with a heart of gold archetype. Similar to Pacifica Northwest.
The characters we are actually supposed to are people like that dude who made fun of Snapdragon and the guys who Rosemary had a crush on but turned out to be sexist.
The reason why in Velma Fred is the most likeable ist because he is actually allowed to have flaws unlike the rest of the main characters. In HGS thats not the case.
When a show is so bad that every episode is worth talking about.
Image Mr. Enter vs Miraculous Ladybug
I hope you still cover Magical Girls Friendships Squad, Santa inc, and especially Mindy Karling's Velma.
Imagine fucking up a show so bad it takes a whole series to explain it all
It's been out for a year or two now... Why are you talking about it now?
Remember when this was supposed to be the 200th Animated Atrocity? Yeah… good times.
Not anymore. We have the Boss Baby.
im honestly surprised he chose boss baby instead. even if you count it and the sequels combined its still way better than high guardian spice or velma. those 2 are way worse and honestly should have been picked for 200
@@saiyanscaris6530 It may due because it's DreamWorks and he knows they can do better but, the company simply choses not too. Velma and the High Guardian Spice are practically products of nepotism, one from having a celebrity saving it from being easily dropped by tge studio and the other being financed with the money they collect from suscriptions which it was proven that it doesn't go to the anime studios.
Well, Boss Baby is quite deserving too… Although I was sure he’ll go with Velma as well.
Remember when he was working on anything for 200? Yeah, me too
Finally, the video people have been waiting for is finally here.
John, I am telling you this as someone who actually wrote a review on this: do not draw it out. If you mist review it, do it thoroughly but not to where it drives you up a wall. Believe me, the show gets even basic writing principles, whether it's Western principles like the Five points and Three Acts or even Japanese ones like _Kishokentetsu_ , so painfully wrong that you'd normally have to get them wrong on purpose. I am asking you to be careful; not in the risk of offending someone but out of genuine concern. This is the worst of 2021, after all.
which is worse. this or velma
@@saiyanscaris6530 That's like asking if I prefer being shot with a .950 Fatmac round or getting kicked in the Gooch with a bladed boot by a soccer player from FIFA.
@@saiyanscaris6530Oh yeah, context:
The SSK .950 JDJ is a "Sporting Rifle" known to shoot the .950 "Fatmac" bullet, which is a literal ONE POUND round and will blow you wide open and destroy the person that shot the rifle.
@@b3rz3rk3r9 So it's the difference between a guaranteed but quick death or a painfully experience you could technically survive but you'll need to have a high enough will to live in order to not wish for death to take you instead. That's honestly kind of hard to choose.
@lmrpirate5273 Technically, you COULD survive being shot by the Fatmac with the right positioning, but at that point would be come more "Should I" or "Do I" instead of "Could I" given that I'd be both horribly crippled and in crippling pain.
But yeah, that about sums it up.
It might be a good idea to mention every error in each episode, then doing an overall video where you examine errors across multiple episodes.
Yeah, when they announced it back then, I almost immediately stopped my subscription. Not because it looked bad, woke, cashgrabby or anything in between those terms, but because I was paying a subscription entirely because some part of the money went to the creators. Crunchyroll as a platform sucked for the longest time and in a way it still does. How do crappy sites that host the shows on free servers have better streaming quality than an official subscription based platform?
Still I dealt with it because I thought I was supporting the studios that made the shows. But when they announced that they were starting their own studio I realized that they couldn't care less about the creators and if they have enough money to start founding their own shows, then the money people were giving them weren't going to the right places.
Which is more hated high guardian spice or Velma? They're both terrible I'm just curious of which one is worse than the other.
Velma is definitely more hated but I'd say HGS is worse.
Apparently they didn't know Crunchy Roll was interviewing them to make the trailer. They thought it was for something else.
so there super oblivious or very dumb. got it
And the streaming networks still question why people pirate anime instead of using their services to "support" Japanese animators...
If you want to support an anime, just buy official merch and stuff like that, don't help liars.
well this be a nightmare , perfect for this month
Oh hey my favorite show
Once secret of starlight and the end of make your mark comes out on thanksgiving 2023. Will you make a video on my little pony g5? I really want to hear your thoughts on it. Since i saw that deviantart picture on what if mr enter reviews mlp g5
Don't worry I'm sure they will find their stride and justify genocide like steven and star. Magic makes everything better ............
I've often said that, High Guardian Spice is one of those shows where it prioritises politics before anything else.
Whether it is a 2 hours or 10 minutes video if there's a Tonikaku Kawaii image said video can't be bad.
For a show devoted to diversity and inclusion, it was extremely attached to the gender binary. They didn't even have a token nonbinary character! (Parnell is a boy.) This is a fantasy setting, where there's an excuse for the characters to not have the same idea of gender as some bigot in Tallahassee or whatever. Why is it a huge deal for Snapdragon to cross-dress in a world where getting jewelry wet can make you into a mermaid?
As a nonbinary person, this aspect of the show is INCREDIBLY annoying. I don't expect there to be a nonbinary character in every show (there are some shows, like Family Guy, where I'd prefer if they didn't touch nonbinary characters with a 59½ foot pole), but if you're going to make a show solely marketed on diversity/inclusion/representation, my standards for representation are going to be a lot higher.
Got the notification right as I sat down for my break. Hell yeah.
Every episode? Like how you reviewed every episode of that Lord of the rings show? Did you think I forgot?
- Talks about creating a diverse working environment
- Boasts about the writers' room being 100% female.
I feel like these people don't understand what diverse means.
No views but 16 likes oh RUclips😁
I've heard nothing but how bad this show is, and every review shows me more of the bad writing. Oof.
Its an interesting case study.
Pirating is the way to go.
If you want to support a show buy the manga, blue-rays, dolls or associated merchandise from the show.
Supporting "streaming services" that botch the original and hate their consumers is not the way to go.
im in the "audience" that type of traler wants to apeal to, but when i see that type of traler all i think is "ahh, so they dont have anything actualy good about the work, so they want to sell it on politicks" and i know that just ends up feeding the "go woke, go broke" morons, who dont understand the market of whatever medium they are talking about, or that thease are basicaly the lefts version of pureflix movies, but made by people who care even less about the politicks involved, as both are only really praised by people with an agenda or not enough experience with media to have literacy mater.
I bet he will only go threw 5 episodes before quitting.
i bet half an episode
@@saiyanscaris6530 One episode and then he will give up. Like that second part to his top adds.
2 hours that's baby numbers
If this is High guardian spice, I wonder what the Low guardian spice is like...? 🤔
correction to the description, not an anime. it's on an anime streaming service that is otherwise dedicated exclusively to anime and shows that attempt to be anime but this show is not supposed to be an anime, and was shown to many networks before landing on this one.
oh this is just an announcement of a criticism, that's why it's so short
I'm a simple person.
I see a video ripping High Guardian Spice for being the abomination it is, I like
As bad as this anime is, i just hope that the people working on it didn't get too much hate and death threats. No bad piece of media is worth harming the well being of the people working on it.
I was waiting for this episode! Can’t wait to get to the end!
Raye Rodriguez will get more work after this even though the show was an absolute freaking disaster.
Uh Enter. I think a guy named LobsterHero already beat you to that idea but go ahead and torture yourself if you want.
Honestly, I didn’t know you edited this video until the end. You said before your editing sucks for your earlier videos, and while I haven’t seen a lot of them, I can say that your editing has improved since then. Keep it up!
Is it me or does anyone else feel like they mixed Steven Universe with RWBY but with the bad side of them. HGS had that many animation errors to where it could take 6 hours to go through them are they taking advice from transformers G1 animation errors.
Even if they hadn't marketed it as such the end product still would have been an ultra woke disaster pushing every left wing talking point excessively.
I don't mind people putting some of their perspective in their work but the blatant glorification of ones own point of view while opposing points of view and their arguments are never give fair credence just makes your show propaganda and doesn't actually provide anything worthwhile to the discussion. It just comes across narcissistic
What?
The only left talking point in it is that there are trans people in this show. And "trans people exist" isnt exactly a boundary pushing statement.
The real political stuff has to do with the irl people that made it. Nothing in the show.
If you think this show fails at EVERYTHING it represents and stands for, wait until you see Steven Universe, my man...
The problem w/ HGS is that the Crunchyroll showrunners overhyped it as "unique and amazing" only to rip off other shows. This show is basically a bootleg RWBY. Fun fact: RWBY volume 1 was released in 2013.
The concept of a "magic school" isn't very new, think Harry Potter
me: "ugh... high guardian spice video? well, alright..."
me, 2 seconds in: "omg sunny beach ost from spyro 2!? LET'S GOOOOOOOO"
Happy to see a new video Mr. Enter
Hell, even MLP:Friendship is Magic did the diversity thing better (especially in its later season) than HGS.
I can say this.
While Velma was bad, it was SOMETHING. High Guardian Spice is just nothing past that.
Enter?! Why you do this?! You have to make a feature length film for this!!