The Worst Lore in Modern Gaming

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • I AM NICHELESS
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    Bad lore is not uncommon. Many games have lore that is downright awful. But I can not think of a game that started off so good and then completely lost it's way to the tune of a triple A budget. When it comes to lore, ‪@Ubisoft‬'s Rainbow Six Siege is a very strange case. It's wonky, ineffective, and fails to reach it's audience. But before it's sharp decline, it had a promising beginning. In fact many still look back on it's old direction quite fondly. So what went wrong? This is how Siege's decision to abandon it's roots in favor of appealing to a non existent crowd caused it to write the most pathetic and forgettable lore in modern gaming. I'd be interested to know of a modern game that spent so much money on such a universally ignored universe. #rainbowsixsiege

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  • @grxyzi9866
    @grxyzi9866 10 месяцев назад +25167

    I always find it funny to imagine all the fans paid for tickets to watch a building, because there’s no indication they can see what’s going on inside the stadium building

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +2924

      This is hilarious

    • @Noperare
      @Noperare 10 месяцев назад +3051

      Best case scenario, you watch the game via the cameras inside the building. So you physically went to a stadium to watch the game on a screen.

    • @Einsym
      @Einsym 10 месяцев назад +2076

      @@Noperare And said cameras get shot/deactivated all the time too

    • @GazDaLad
      @GazDaLad 10 месяцев назад +975

      YO THIS BUILDING IS HELLA SICK BRO. WE SHOULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR!

    • @verticalpug2026
      @verticalpug2026 10 месяцев назад +429

      Pretty sure it's implied that the body cams of the operators are being broadcasted...

  • @Noperare
    @Noperare 10 месяцев назад +16982

    An anti-terrorist secret agency becoming airsoft sport celebrities is the dumbest story I ever heard. Like, not even fun B-movie dumb, just plain dumb.

    • @michaeljoggerst1015
      @michaeljoggerst1015 10 месяцев назад +58

      its a game, not meant to be a movie

    • @joshfromsmosh3352d
      @joshfromsmosh3352d 10 месяцев назад +1957

      @@michaeljoggerst1015 doesn't make it any less garbage

    • @youknowwhatever8649
      @youknowwhatever8649 10 месяцев назад +166

      Actually I kinda can see a B-movie doing something like that.

    • @underpaidmook
      @underpaidmook 10 месяцев назад +510

      @@michaeljoggerst1015 Yeah, still makes the lore dumb

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 10 месяцев назад +59

      Someone should make a B-movie about it, and make it good.

  • @owendyer9956
    @owendyer9956 10 месяцев назад +22799

    Deimos is real af, just said “Rainbow use to be cool and now it sucks” and kills the guy that made it the dumb Olympics

    • @averymicrowave1713
      @averymicrowave1713 10 месяцев назад +2400

      "In this fandom, Deimos is a hero."

    • @ScoutTheSpartan
      @ScoutTheSpartan 10 месяцев назад +982

      @@averymicrowave1713 yeah he kinda was ngl. Until they dropped the ball by having him get captured.

    • @Azal423
      @Azal423 10 месяцев назад +295

      @@ScoutTheSpartanman I came back to the game and immediately didn’t like him because he kicked Zero’s ass lol

    • @captainslow_037
      @captainslow_037 10 месяцев назад +639

      @@Azal423 not to mention that HE SAW ZERO IN A MIRROR, fisher would never allow that

    • @darrenmays2036
      @darrenmays2036 10 месяцев назад

      thank you@@captainslow_037

  • @burgerman9246
    @burgerman9246 10 месяцев назад +11538

    The fact that this is all connected to the Splinter Cell canon and Sam is spending his retirement coaching operators for e-sports is also pretty crazy.

    • @JaCKal_0000
      @JaCKal_0000 10 месяцев назад +551

      probably not canon for me

    • @flatpepsi
      @flatpepsi 10 месяцев назад +704

      Definitely not canon for me.

    • @gimmeyourrights8292
      @gimmeyourrights8292 10 месяцев назад +378

      Certainly not canon for me

    • @sovereignstate6760
      @sovereignstate6760 10 месяцев назад +309

      Absolutely not canon for me

    • @mj3541
      @mj3541 10 месяцев назад +132

      And Ghost Recon

  • @the_Googie
    @the_Googie 7 месяцев назад +751

    Look at old footage of the game. The game used to be dark in visual style, deep black shadows, no goofy Rick n Morty skins, clearing a building was terrifying. Now its just Overwatch with destructible walls.

    • @cheesykebs708
      @cheesykebs708 2 месяца назад +21

      I only think it was dark and gritty in its E3 trailer the cinematics were pretty dark but ever since beta it's been pretty light visually. Now that I think about it, we did lose night maps 😭

    • @v-trigger6137
      @v-trigger6137 Месяц назад +11

      Isn't there was a huge discourse back in the days about how the game downgraded everything in its launch? 😂. like it looked or played absolutely nothing like the E3 cinematic trailer

    • @OfKingsXI
      @OfKingsXI Месяц назад +10

      thats what IM saying man! I remember being 16 playing this game back then being TERRIFIED of walking around a corner, head on a constant swivel. It FELT like a sequel to Vegas, kids these days dont even know Vegas EXISTED and how SLOW and tactical the game was supposed to feel. Nowadays you get spawn peeked by Rick or A fuckin hologram rushes the site even better A fuckin robot controlled by a lady in wheelchair is pixel peeking the main door

    • @Splozy
      @Splozy Месяц назад

      @@v-trigger6137 that's pretty much every single big publisher game

    • @jordannoell4222
      @jordannoell4222 Месяц назад +6

      @v-trigger6137 The beta, alpha, and first season of the game played largely like the trailers. Graphics were downgraded in some scenarios, but the game still had some of the best graphics of games released that year, there was a lot of interesting texture detail and microdestruction. That being said it became a competitive game, and competitive games hate visual clutter and slow paced gameplay. Players quickly optimized the gameplay into a fragfest of lighting fast executes and spawnpeeks, while ubisoft changed the lighting engine due to players hating the fact that they couldn't see jack shit half the time.

  • @belinskiparadox7687
    @belinskiparadox7687 10 месяцев назад +16573

    Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give an anti terrorist game an anime Tournament Arc?

    • @huks9380
      @huks9380 10 месяцев назад +896

      I have no idea, but they won the cringe world record.

    • @seneschalorcberg1338
      @seneschalorcberg1338 10 месяцев назад +318

      Harry. Glad Deimos did him in.

    • @kloa4219
      @kloa4219 10 месяцев назад +680

      This is the consequence of avoiding politics in games. Stories end up looking silly in order to not offend anyone.
      Politics fleshes a world out and adds realism to it.

    • @Hitokiri1912
      @Hitokiri1912 10 месяцев назад +15

      What is so bad about anime?

    • @velvetinedrapes4359
      @velvetinedrapes4359 10 месяцев назад +165

      @@Hitokiri1912 Well it can be larger than life a lot of the time and completely avoid consequences which contrast greatly with a setting like Tom Clancys work plus the grand tournament with teams of special forces soldiers is very anime.

  • @sate2801
    @sate2801 10 месяцев назад +5238

    >this is why rainbow is formed
    >this is what you all been trained for
    >OLYMPIC DOORBREACHING

    • @bolbistroganofsky5946
      @bolbistroganofsky5946 10 месяцев назад +136

      Major League Doorkicking

    • @skelemid5294
      @skelemid5294 10 месяцев назад +38

      ​@@bolbistroganofsky5946 literally what Streamer's think of swat teams dream after they got doorkicked

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +7

      National Doorbreaching League

    • @Y7Y01
      @Y7Y01 9 месяцев назад +2

      Go play ready or not

    • @qu1253
      @qu1253 6 месяцев назад +9

      I really hate what modern shooters have turned into. Can I just have one semi-grounded FPS that doesn't have ridiculous Fortnite skins?

  • @barefootcoolboy_3264
    @barefootcoolboy_3264 7 месяцев назад +569

    I wonder what happens if you buy tickets to a Rainbow match and all of a sudden there an attack an all of Rainbow Six needs to go and take care of it. Do you get your tickets refunded?

    • @TinnWard
      @TinnWard 7 месяцев назад +73

      You get on the helicopter

    • @RiTchieKII
      @RiTchieKII 6 месяцев назад +56

      @@TinnWard DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BAORD THE HELICOPTER!!!!

    • @TinnWard
      @TinnWard 6 месяцев назад +23

      @RiTchieKII FOR YOUR OWN SAFTEY, KEEP THE AREA SURROUNDING THE MEDICAL TENT CLEAR FOR MEDICAL PERSONNEL AND THOSE IN NEED OF MEDICAL ATTENTION!!!

    • @RiTchieKII
      @RiTchieKII 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@TinnWard لا تحاول الصعود على متن المروحية

  • @Sprousey97
    @Sprousey97 10 месяцев назад +12421

    An anti terrorist team being turned into a paintball esports team sounds like the plot of a south park episode

    • @Pierce1996h
      @Pierce1996h 10 месяцев назад +695

      This was actually a small plot point in a boondocks episode. Wuncler hired blackwater mercenaries to play kickball lol

    • @baconflakes3345
      @baconflakes3345 9 месяцев назад +54

      @@Pierce1996h real

    • @landrylongacre6391
      @landrylongacre6391 9 месяцев назад +241

      I feel like for South Park it would be the inverse, paint ball players forced to become an anti terrorist group… and then they’d die horribly because it’s south park

    • @rotunda_
      @rotunda_ 9 месяцев назад

      @Pierce1996h Still can't believe that dumbass bet all of Woodcrest's money on a kickball game

    • @derangedfreackingtwistedps5048
      @derangedfreackingtwistedps5048 9 месяцев назад +23

      @@Pierce1996h show with good writing does a funny joke, funny joke misattributed to show with slop writing.. lol

  • @darknight-kx6ye
    @darknight-kx6ye 10 месяцев назад +8419

    Rainbow Six Siege is a game where most of the time I thought smoke's gas was the same as the white masks.

    • @epgamer1145
      @epgamer1145 10 месяцев назад +874

      Fr. I figured they had an insider telling the white masks what rainbows next move was.
      It would have made sense since in the Rainbow six book, the operators could never find leads on the people they were trying to track down until some guy working as a third party whistleblew on their operations.

    • @shoelessbandit1581
      @shoelessbandit1581 10 месяцев назад

      I believe it was theorized that smoke is a rainbow operator but infiltrated the white masks. Was never confirmed or denied because they literally did nothing with the white masks since launch

    • @Padlock_Steve
      @Padlock_Steve 10 месяцев назад +268

      it is (or was) he stole dat shit

    • @_r3con
      @_r3con 10 месяцев назад +49

      @Padlock_Steve bro I've played this game for over 700hrs I was so confused LMAO

    • @TheTrueMerrio
      @TheTrueMerrio 10 месяцев назад +9

      Sssssh...

  • @mysticone2112
    @mysticone2112 10 месяцев назад +4875

    The fact they wrote an entire explanation to justify having a super secretive elite military counter terrorist force be an esport team and use that as a jumping off point in the story instead of just saying its all non canon scenario is wild.

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +305

      LOL

    • @SirFailure
      @SirFailure 10 месяцев назад +72

      Yeah, like what are they smoking at the time?

    • @patrickiamonfire965
      @patrickiamonfire965 10 месяцев назад +200

      @@SirFailure nothing apparently. No doubt the executive thought it was a great marketing idea for esports.

    • @CBRN-115
      @CBRN-115 10 месяцев назад +6

      What kind of drug were they smoking

    • @total_epicness6776
      @total_epicness6776 10 месяцев назад +9

      Biggest falloff in history

  • @NormalRapt0r
    @NormalRapt0r 9 месяцев назад +534

    One of my “favorite” parts of the Nighthaven shit is that some R6 operators left with them…Government owned, Special Forces operators, being assigned from their countries to team Rainbow…just left on their own to join a PMC…are you fucking crazy?

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 6 месяцев назад +66

      A PMC that chills in the same Olympics arena

    • @unintelligentlifeform3821
      @unintelligentlifeform3821 6 месяцев назад +62

      Isn't that technically treason?

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 6 месяцев назад

      @@unintelligentlifeform3821 not technically, full blown treason, and dissertation

    • @chillyavian7718
      @chillyavian7718 4 месяца назад +97

      @@unintelligentlifeform3821 not technical, full on, executed as a traitor against the state, treason

    • @testinghydra5652
      @testinghydra5652 20 дней назад +3

      ⁠@@chillyavian7718not treason. Why on earth would it be treason? Most countries define treason as working with enemies of the state. What traitorous actions did they take? They didn’t go AWOL since they were clearly allowed to leave with no issue.

  • @notanaveragedoktah8390
    @notanaveragedoktah8390 10 месяцев назад +5351

    Reminder that there is canonically a story in the R6 universe where Ash, Tachanka, Blitz, Frost, Ela, Iana, Fuze and Doc were transported to anime Narnia and Ash becomes a catgirl in that story.

    • @sw4gsmile595
      @sw4gsmile595 10 месяцев назад +797

      Add the fact that almost all of the isekai Ops kinda jump start the world to space exploration and unknowingly rebuild a country

    • @shoelessbandit1581
      @shoelessbandit1581 10 месяцев назад +652

      I've been out of the loop for years and are very confused

    • @vp7877
      @vp7877 10 месяцев назад +398

      And it's better than the shit we get in rainbow proper 💀

    • @sw4gsmile595
      @sw4gsmile595 10 месяцев назад +631

      @@shoelessbandit1581Lets just say the Gacha game arknights creator is a huge R6 fan like really they have allot of inspiration to R6 the skill icons the enemies looking like white mask and they already have part 2 were they recreate the iconic R6 cover art
      All in all they give respect to the source material while doing the Collab events and their individual story just screams "FREAK YEAH HUMANITY ROLES"

    • @micalamb6144
      @micalamb6144 10 месяцев назад +128

      I love Arknights

  • @rbarzevedo
    @rbarzevedo 9 месяцев назад +3054

    Back when the stadium cinematic dropped I remember thinking "oh that's cool, the Six Invitational is right around the corner, so they made this cinematic to hype up the event, having the pro players and their passion represented by the very operators." Never in a million years would I have thought that that was actually canon but here we are

    • @ZackShark1
      @ZackShark1 2 месяца назад +6

      @@rbarzevedo SAME

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil 10 месяцев назад +3016

    Siege Ops at launch: A former FBI agent volunteers for an International Legion of Anti-Terrorist commandos who specially assist in hostage situations
    Siege Ops now: I was good at Paintball and I got drafted into the local SWAT unit

    • @Brendan-m6i
      @Brendan-m6i 10 месяцев назад +228

      Im a cat girl who plays esports, im the perfect candidate for the team

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +108

      Literally a bunch of clowns. Just like Ryder says in GTA San Andreas: "Weekend soldiers! Ain't no match for Grove Street OGs!"

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 10 месяцев назад +10

      Your profile picture says my feelings for r6 siege lore and gameplay.

    • @Brendan-m6i
      @Brendan-m6i 10 месяцев назад

      @@choppergunner8650 trained killers would get their ass kicked by a bunch of terrirorial morons

    • @Imago8
      @Imago8 10 месяцев назад +17

      I wouldn’t even be suprised if that paintball story was a real thing they’d use.

  • @ZumbieGuy
    @ZumbieGuy 2 месяца назад +84

    Just a friendly reminder the main reason why you can’t jump in the game as a gameplay mechanic was because the original special forces advisors that Ubisoft hired to help develop the game said jumping was pointless because of all the gear you wore. This was back when they actually listened to military experts

  • @thecstineman
    @thecstineman 10 месяцев назад +1430

    this is essentially just like a high school drama anime but ubisoft did it so it's worse

    • @swilleh_
      @swilleh_ 9 месяцев назад +10

      Can't make something worse than the story in japanese cartoons.

    • @thecstineman
      @thecstineman 9 месяцев назад +35

      @@swilleh_ i thought that… until ubisoft did it. Also tbh fmab was pretty good

    • @QWONIE
      @QWONIE 2 месяца назад +6

      @@swilleh_ you just watch the wrong anime respectfully

  • @perkup1695
    @perkup1695 10 месяцев назад +3096

    i cant believe the "Rainbow 6 start a paintbull club" was canon, i thought it was some noncanon for fun event just for the esports or something 😭😭😭

    • @collinmclaren6608
      @collinmclaren6608 10 месяцев назад +274

      I remember seeing the map description for the stadium and just thought "Oh, they use it for training, that's funny." Little did I know that was a major canon event for the entire game.

    • @Blajah_
      @Blajah_ 10 месяцев назад +63

      I feel like this was the biggest issue for r6, making stadium canon. If they needed a canon stadium, they couldve just made it an abandoned but polished stadium with no one there. It would also coincide well with the original lore for multiplayer being operators practicing against each other. And i feel like they shoulda just made a separate game for the pve and the story itself

    • @smoketinytom
      @smoketinytom 10 месяцев назад +15

      I thought the White Mask group were the main threat, but the Multiplayer aspect was a War Games practice across various locations.

    • @Blajah_
      @Blajah_ 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@smoketinytom at first i thought the multiplayer aspect were actual terrorist situations

    • @David-tl6lv
      @David-tl6lv 10 месяцев назад +14

      Personal headcanon: siege is not canon.

  • @minoweltknives
    @minoweltknives 10 месяцев назад +942

    Best Part is that random chinese company who bought the rights to use Team Rainbow for a collab in their anime tower defense game (Arknights) took better care of the Lore of the individuals, their goals and ways than what modern R6 does with its cast.

    • @swordmain1880
      @swordmain1880 10 месяцев назад +84

      Knew someone would bring up Arknights eventually

    • @minoweltknives
      @minoweltknives 10 месяцев назад

      @@swordmain1880 ofc

    • @erosthespy
      @erosthespy 10 месяцев назад +147

      Small correction, Arknights is owned by a Chinese company (Hypergryph), not Japanese.

    • @minoweltknives
      @minoweltknives 10 месяцев назад +47

      @@erosthespy oh, you are right
      thanks for the info

    • @anantachonnambat6701
      @anantachonnambat6701 10 месяцев назад

      Lmao, team Rainbow with cat ears is still dealing with terrorism and protecting the innocents while these dumbasses are competing in a stupid Olympic with White masks presumably still around.

  • @TheGoodDoktor4451
    @TheGoodDoktor4451 8 месяцев назад +244

    I was never wrapped up consistently in the lore updates for siege. But I do remember thinking, why did they make the leader for rainbow a hippy therapist?

    • @cicadaknight3048
      @cicadaknight3048 7 месяцев назад +39

      Cuz he looks like most videogame writers nowadays

    • @uncreativename826
      @uncreativename826 3 месяца назад +6

      Seriously John Clark would hate it

    • @caseycox1002
      @caseycox1002 3 месяца назад

      Just threw up from how accurate this is ​@@cicadaknight3048

    • @areebkhan4038
      @areebkhan4038 16 дней назад +2

      Because Angela Basset was too expensive

  • @Suileglas0415
    @Suileglas0415 10 месяцев назад +2568

    Team Rainbow is a bunch of countires working together to fight terrorism so the operators still serve under their respective governments. They wouldnt be able to just leave and join a PMC group while still being enlisted

    • @Ryan-dp4rs
      @Ryan-dp4rs 10 месяцев назад +74

      based Sandstorm pfp

    • @kainoawaikiki2614
      @kainoawaikiki2614 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah they'd basically all just be wanted criminals disobeying orders and committing treason lmao

    • @ringingsilence9226
      @ringingsilence9226 10 месяцев назад +23

      Yeah they could, its called going AWOL it happens all the time

    • @kainoawaikiki2614
      @kainoawaikiki2614 10 месяцев назад +317

      @@ringingsilence9226 but then they'd be wanted criminals and the governments would be sanctioned to attack their pmc

    • @kainoawaikiki2614
      @kainoawaikiki2614 10 месяцев назад +127

      @@blinkachu5275 they're not just a few soldiers, they're elite members of a coalition anti terrorist taskforce.

  • @Clod_Datenshi
    @Clod_Datenshi 9 месяцев назад +5045

    "Most players are too distracted with the amazing gameplay"
    Is this gameplay in the room with us?

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  9 месяцев назад +425

      I love it

    • @mikejones8808
      @mikejones8808 9 месяцев назад +59

      Facts lmao

    • @whitehuayra
      @whitehuayra 9 месяцев назад +144

      Guy hasn't played many games. Sad 😢

    • @Sten05
      @Sten05 8 месяцев назад +65

      Even rocket league has more gameplay and epic ruined the game

    • @MrMattogreen25
      @MrMattogreen25 8 месяцев назад +47

      I fucking hate it man, time to kill is almost instant, it's all about the reaction speed so if you're a half a millisecond slower, you lose

  • @migueeeelet
    @migueeeelet 10 месяцев назад +1299

    You know what I hate the most? This whole stadium and operator vs operator escapade feels like the biggest cop-out in order to avoid any further PvE modes.

    • @-Alter-
      @-Alter- 10 месяцев назад +13

      sir, the only PvE mode we ever got before the Tournament stuff was Outbreak. And since then we've recieved a literal PvE that allows you to play matches with actual bots + an overhaul of the Terrorist Hunt. Not to mention the entire game they made from Outbreak, that also released after the Tournament stuff. (Although it was in development before the Tournaments, plus its pretty bad). but overall, they've increased in focus on PvE stuff AFTER the Tournament Arc

    • @Ziero_H
      @Ziero_H 10 месяцев назад +121

      A rainbow six game with no terrorist hunt…shameful

    • @Un_Altra_Persona
      @Un_Altra_Persona 10 месяцев назад +40

      @@-Alter- The new terrorist hunt overhaul mode is terrible tbh

    • @acey6991
      @acey6991 10 месяцев назад +58

      @@-Alter- you obviously are not a vet, situations were actually super fun and basically a better T-hunt

    • @-Alter-
      @-Alter- 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@acey6991 2 things bud. 1. I don't know if they've recently gotten rid of them, but Situations have been in the game for atleast 7 years. you don't need to be a "Vet" to have played them. 2. Situations were literally the games Tutorial and can all be recreated in T-Hunt. And although i've played since Velvet Shell, being a Veteran player literally has nothing to do with my reply. Ubi is a dog water company. But they didn't make a Tournement Anime style story arc just so they could have an excuse to not make PvE content.

  • @D3K43
    @D3K43 7 месяцев назад +300

    So you're telling me that while the Marine Corps were laying brass all over the Middle East, Rainbow Six was playing mock-battles in a stadium?

    • @ZumbieGuy
      @ZumbieGuy 2 месяца назад

      Basically, every other SOF/CTU unit in the world have been seeing actual action and stopping plots just like irl. Hell, a single Iraqi and Nigerian SOF who’ve been fighting ISIS for the last 10 years have more kills than all of Rainbow combined at this point

    • @Jimpiedepimpie
      @Jimpiedepimpie Месяц назад +9

      At least they weren't hurting innocent people for oil money.
      Gotta keep the American characters human somehow.

    • @areebkhan4038
      @areebkhan4038 16 дней назад +3

      @@Jimpiedepimpie realest thing I’ve heard in a sec

  • @lasermanso
    @lasermanso 9 месяцев назад +2209

    remember when ''Tom Clancy's'' meant grounded narative and feeling ''it could have happend '' ? been decades since i did

    • @Jakk_Sp4rrow
      @Jakk_Sp4rrow 8 месяцев назад +17

      Sheesh, how old are you ?

    • @Deadspace123100
      @Deadspace123100 8 месяцев назад +82

      I’d say the division hits that mark pretty well. The first one, anyway. Haven’t played 2.

    • @Ekdrink
      @Ekdrink 8 месяцев назад +11

      Shit last one I remember being okay was the one on the 360

    • @Lefuhq3
      @Lefuhq3 8 месяцев назад +7

      Money talks unfortunately

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman 8 месяцев назад +40

      Honestly it spiraled out way before Siege. The instant Clancy trademarked his name and different writers and sub-brands took off most of the stories became pretty stupid. I'd even argue Red October was Clancy's only good book.

  • @ZeePanzer
    @ZeePanzer 10 месяцев назад +3192

    Who TF prints its organization name on the fuckyng bullets they use, wtf.

    • @masteryoda8390
      @masteryoda8390 10 месяцев назад +96

      I'd imagine companies that make bullets do

    • @ZeePanzer
      @ZeePanzer 10 месяцев назад +607

      @@masteryoda8390 im talking about the military organizations bruh

    • @InsertFunnyThingHere
      @InsertFunnyThingHere 10 месяцев назад +493

      Killer Bean type beat

    • @Zaekr2111
      @Zaekr2111 10 месяцев назад +41

      Pretty sure those bullets were manufactured by Nighthaven for their own use.

    • @S.0.S.
      @S.0.S. 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@InsertFunnyThingHere LMFAAAOOOOOOO

  • @vp7877
    @vp7877 10 месяцев назад +3042

    You know it's bad when the gacha game collab has better and more thought out lore and personality for the R6 characters than the actual game

    • @motorsporttj1689
      @motorsporttj1689 10 месяцев назад +477

      Average Arknights W

    • @vp7877
      @vp7877 10 месяцев назад +87

      @@motorsporttj1689 very real

    • @Wolfkrieg-i1w
      @Wolfkrieg-i1w 10 месяцев назад +15

      Blue archive

    • @Wolfkrieg-i1w
      @Wolfkrieg-i1w 10 месяцев назад

      Tru​@@motorsporttj1689

    • @pedroescalona3842
      @pedroescalona3842 10 месяцев назад +148

      Yeah, the characterization is quite good, it is true that they take very well and somewhat quickly to live in a world similar but at the same time very different from theirs, with very clear similarities like Columbia, but Ash looked like a really cool leader. And it helped explain things on both sides of the games. I hoped the 2nd event expands on what they were doing.

  • @offbeatberry
    @offbeatberry 7 месяцев назад +89

    The lore plays out like a WWE storyline between tag teams. They literally duke it out in the field, have beef when they’re not training, then they duke it out again.
    Except with WWE, their storylines are atleast coherent

    • @S3verusMyG
      @S3verusMyG 3 месяца назад

      its so retarded that they try and make old ass military niggas seem like teenagers bickering and dating like some guys working at McDonalds

  • @torakazu2269
    @torakazu2269 10 месяцев назад +2024

    They say that the servers are maintained purely by the energy created by the speeds Tom Clancy achieves by rolling around in his grave.

  • @Ontos_M50
    @Ontos_M50 10 месяцев назад +1595

    Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave so bad he could probably power a whole country

    • @RKNGL
      @RKNGL 10 месяцев назад +197

      Perpetual motion Clancy.

    • @TheEFedsAreComin
      @TheEFedsAreComin 10 месяцев назад +43

      Yeah, the sellout hack of an author would probably be mad instead of spending the millions he got if he was still alive today.
      Dude wrote 3 good books and proceeded to shit the bed by the time he wrote the original rainbow six novel (which too, was complete dogshit compared to the hunt for red october). He never gave a shit and saw the games as a way to milk more money from his work and nothing more. He would have been over the moon with siege and how much money it's been making.

    • @doesntmatter7560
      @doesntmatter7560 10 месяцев назад +67

      @@TheEFedsAreComin thats kinda gay

    • @sebastiann.8088
      @sebastiann.8088 10 месяцев назад +51

      @@TheEFedsAreComin that's a little homosexual

    • @Journey_to_who_knows
      @Journey_to_who_knows 10 месяцев назад +20

      “Tom Clancy’s rolling body, Rainbow Six Siege”

  • @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit
    @LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit 10 месяцев назад +1102

    Remember when Rainbow was such breach of international law, that NATO and the UN would disavow them in a heartbeat if the world found out the true nature and origins of their organization? (John Clark specifically told you this)
    Yeah, apparently Ubisoft forgot that part when they made Team Rainbow and airsoft team. When this first dropped, even I couldn't believe what they were trying. This was as far removed from the setting as they could get.

    • @brandonhughes4571
      @brandonhughes4571 10 месяцев назад +49

      I had at the beginning thought it was less a sport team and more a team training/ it not being Canon.
      Yeah that didn't last too long.

    • @couldyou4745
      @couldyou4745 10 месяцев назад +23

      You'd be a fool to expect any better from Ubisoft.

    • @couldyou4745
      @couldyou4745 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@brandonhughes4571 that's what I thought as well.

    • @roningfroggy
      @roningfroggy 10 месяцев назад +43

      To add onto that, in the original Rainbow Six book, during the Olympic stadium section, I can't remember if it was Ding and Mike, think to themselves about how what they are doing could never become an Olympic sport, unless they brought back Roman Gladiators. And then reflecting that what they do isn't for sport and isn't "mass entertainment for a kinder world."

    • @collinmclaren6608
      @collinmclaren6608 9 месяцев назад +15

      John Clark would be FUCKING PISSED if this is how Rainbow turned out.

  • @CarterChaosdiver-cv5lh
    @CarterChaosdiver-cv5lh 3 месяца назад +54

    17:03 “You know-“ *proceeds to get an ad*.

    • @Aleebi
      @Aleebi 2 месяца назад +1

      @@CarterChaosdiver-cv5lh literally just got that lmfaoooo

    • @LonerDude.
      @LonerDude. 2 месяца назад

      @@CarterChaosdiver-cv5lh Got it!

    • @toonistiny
      @toonistiny 2 месяца назад +1

      Lmaaoooo saammeee 😂

    • @respectedsalmon9390
      @respectedsalmon9390 2 месяца назад

      Bro just wanted to advertise Black Friday deals at Walmart

  • @kentreed00
    @kentreed00 10 месяцев назад +1841

    E-sports and it's consequences were a disaster to PvP shooters.

    • @catalintimofti1117
      @catalintimofti1117 10 месяцев назад +21

      Not true
      CS franchise

    • @jacobgriggs9673
      @jacobgriggs9673 9 месяцев назад +193

      @@catalintimofti1117 ah yes the OG of gambling in video games

    • @dracvich
      @dracvich 9 месяцев назад +103

      @@catalintimofti1117 tbf speaking as a CS player Counter-Strike is basically a one-of-a-kind anomaly in the gaming industry
      If any other franchise had (more or less) the same gameplay for over 20 years it would've died, but it speaks to just how brilliant CS' gameplay loop is that it's still kicking around today in the big leagues
      Also CS is synonymous with competitive grassroots gaming, even since 1.6 there were a shit ton of LAN tournaments being hosted

    • @catalintimofti1117
      @catalintimofti1117 9 месяцев назад

      @@jacobgriggs9673 one of my friends got 1800 dollar gloves
      Which prompted one of my other friends into trying his luck

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 9 месяцев назад +4

      Truth

  • @benprint7615
    @benprint7615 10 месяцев назад +577

    Dude the article 5 cutscenes and original operator videos were so badass. After your operator walks out of the decontamination tent, grabs his gun and rejoins his teammates as the music swelled.

  • @connorkensly5251
    @connorkensly5251 10 месяцев назад +1173

    There was a point in ghost recon wildlands where Nomad (the protagonist) asked Caviera about Operation Patriots, to which she replies, "it's classified." hinting that the events did indeed happen, the game just didn't.

    • @zerozeroone4424
      @zerozeroone4424 10 месяцев назад +180

      The whole idea behind patriots would have made for one amazing game. I hope it gets ressurrected sometime soon and not censored in the slightest

    • @Savagem8
      @Savagem8 10 месяцев назад +156

      Eh, I feel that was just a joke against fans basically teasing "you'll never know what happens because we aren't going to go back and do it haha"

    • @justinbruce9808
      @justinbruce9808 10 месяцев назад

      @@Savagem8 yea that honestly pissed me off more then it amused me. I grew up playing rainbow six on Dreamcast and went from there. And to not only have a game I had religiously been reading the game informer for cancelled for e-sports fodder, but then to taunt me with that? Suck my gooch Ubisoft

    • @Avariice2299
      @Avariice2299 10 месяцев назад +43

      @@Savagem8 yeah ubisoft is really snarky and loves to troll their playerbase, it's crazy

    • @iterationfackshet1990
      @iterationfackshet1990 10 месяцев назад +26

      @@zerozeroone4424from the leaks about the next ghost recon game it’s honestly going beyond what was even shown for patriots and going back to the tactical roots of the Tom Clancy series. It seems like Ubisoft is doing a complete 180 after their recent failures and are now listening to their fans.

  • @DENOhritko
    @DENOhritko 15 дней назад +4

    *R6 captures Deimos*
    - So what you're gonna do? Kill me?
    - Not that simple, Deimos. You will participate in our airsoft games now.
    - NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    *credits roll and Linkin Park plays*

  • @doctorbobcat7123
    @doctorbobcat7123 10 месяцев назад +1099

    I don't understand why AAA games are so allergic to realistic / "mil-sim" type stories. The same thing happened with the MW reboot, they'll pretend to be serious for about a few months until they start adding in zombies, dabbing emotes and Snoop Dogg skins. It's not even that "realistic" games aren't popular, games like Arma and Tarkov are huge. I'm just so burnt out with how unserious most stories are in games now, it's sucks all the immersion out.

    • @spetsnaz4537
      @spetsnaz4537 10 месяцев назад +183

      grit and seriousness diverts from the norm and that scares companies. also the masses who still watch twitch streamers for some reason and gravitate to valorant/overwatch (the big leagues of subsidised art direction in favor of e-sports) magnetise towards cartoon graphics and atmospheres with hyper-developed character personalities, who in turn generates fanbases whose only logical conclusion is fanart and porn. and cosplay too maybe, but that's probably still just porn. the answer is porn and money.

    • @vryyyx
      @vryyyx 10 месяцев назад +106

      for obvious reasons, because they don’t make as much profit doing so. Microtransactions make fuck tons of money in live service games, and you can’t sell generic mil sim cosmetics, because the consumers don’t care for that. They care for flashy, over the top, colourful etc, that shit doesn’t blend with mil sim. That’s why Snoop Dogg is in CoD, it makes money.

    • @SakurakoLover
      @SakurakoLover 10 месяцев назад +53

      Marvel movies happened

    • @howdoyoudo5949
      @howdoyoudo5949 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@vryyyx They should just start out as that then.

    • @sagitta98
      @sagitta98 10 месяцев назад +25

      That's sadly a common plague that has been ruining every live service FPS games. They let the game live too long to the point they run out of initial ideas then start adding goofiest shit humanity never thought acceptable in something that marketed itself as a serious shooter.
      Not only COD, it happened everywhere. Siege, CS Online, Crossfire. You'll always find a transformer looking gun in game and nobody thinks it doesn't match the game tone.

  • @gabrielegr8282
    @gabrielegr8282 10 месяцев назад +2406

    I don't really buy that the stadium plot was to make the story more escalable. What I think happened was that they realized making a game about anti-terrorists is inherently political, and they needed to tip toe around a lot of stuff to avoid offending anyone. They want to keep the game as apolitical as possible to attract more players. Think about the backlash they could have gotten if they had released any of the Russian ops now with the Ukraine war going on. Or what if suddenly one of the units featured in the game gets involved in a controversial situation like violations of human rights? Then an ignorant news station could run a segment about the game that let's you play as them. That's why they stopped featuring real anti terrorist units in the Operator's background.
    Deimos is an attempt to go back to the anti-terrorist roots, while keeping the conflict mostly internal. He doesn't really follow any political agenda, his whole motivation is focused on Rainbow itself.

    • @mayochup4684
      @mayochup4684 10 месяцев назад +283

      I try to explain this all the time, this is a perfect way to describe this.

    • @Mi_tala
      @Mi_tala 10 месяцев назад +300

      that sound kinda reasonable,i mean they cancelled rainbow six patriot for the same reason

    • @NaiveOreo
      @NaiveOreo 10 месяцев назад +406

      Sad that games cant tell their own stories and create characters without having to limit and worry due to people not understanding the difference between real like and fictional worlds

    • @mayochup4684
      @mayochup4684 10 месяцев назад +151

      @@Mi_tala I’m really sad that Rainbow Six: Patriots got canceled, it looked like it would be a good game, it’s a shame

    • @Mi_tala
      @Mi_tala 10 месяцев назад +90

      @@mayochup4684 well since how soft people nowdays,it unfortunately not possible for them

  • @Tenkidcoop
    @Tenkidcoop 10 месяцев назад +824

    I need to say that, in regards to the stadium, having all the operators live together in one location has got to be the worst security risks I’ve ever heard of

    • @nightigal
      @nightigal 10 месяцев назад +123

      The biggest security risk is the active broadcasting of their locations.

    • @tipiet560
      @tipiet560 9 месяцев назад +7

      I mean in the original book they had two teams of operators living in military baracks at herford airbase so this isn't too far off from the original. After all they had to be ready to fly out whenever a major terrorist threat was going on somewhere in the world so they can't just be flown in from who knows where before boarding the plane together.

    • @theldapperapple2382
      @theldapperapple2382 9 месяцев назад +13

      @tipiet560 It couldn't be further from that? A barracks wouldn't have live spectators and a broadcast of what's going on. Plus, I'd assume it's much harder to find a military base housing these individuals than a literal studio people visit to watch.

    • @tipiet560
      @tipiet560 9 месяцев назад

      @@theldapperapple2382 I didn't say anything about live spectators or a broadcast lul? I just told about the original book and that the operators are all stationed in baracks at hereford base. There are obviously no spectators or broadcasts because THEY ARE FUCKING CTU OPERATORS.

    • @dannymorales5549
      @dannymorales5549 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@tipiet560 Whilst true, at least they wherent living together in a very public area where any terrorist could attack

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla 8 месяцев назад +70

    Tom Clancy games used to mean something when the man himself was still alive and had some oversight over games bearing his name. To show how deeply he cared about authenticity, he almost nixed Sam Fisher’s iconic goggles because at the time, dual night vision and thermal goggles were impossible. He only relented when devs convinced him that swapping separate goggles would be too cumbersome for gameplay.
    Every game had to be authentic and use either existing or near future experimental weapons and tech. And all the soldiers and spies looked and acted like professionals doing a job and being badasses.
    Now it’s all complete bullshit.

    • @sydssolanumsamsys
      @sydssolanumsamsys 3 месяца назад

      tom clancy was a nationalistic militaristic fascist

  • @FlamingZombie626
    @FlamingZombie626 10 месяцев назад +262

    Baffled by the arena thing entirely. Dude saw 1 anime with a tournament arc pop off and was like yeah I'll do that

    • @thebusiness8212
      @thebusiness8212 10 месяцев назад +9

      “It worked for Hunter X Hunter it can work for us as well!”
      - The Writers, probably

    • @whitetober7825
      @whitetober7825 10 месяцев назад +6

      I was under the assumption for a while that it only existed to bring hype for the esports invitational, but didn't have any correlation to the lore itself like Extraction
      Which, I mean, tragically Extraction has a pretty good story (that I remember) but was abandoned by Ubisoft (as far as I'm aware)
      So go figure ig

  • @dizzpenzerr5367
    @dizzpenzerr5367 10 месяцев назад +354

    They really should have stated that Deimos is just a gameplay aspect and him playing along with their "training" is mostly non cannon. Heck they could have just hired a double for him and basically say "Hey, we think this is how this guy will operate. Play with/against him just so you guys can dip your toes on be ready when you fight him for real" Instead of basically saying "Yeah, this is the real guy. Why is he participating on the activities he hates so much? I dunno- I mean... It's some super secret reason, yeah. He's totally a 5head gigabrain and it is all part of his plan."

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +37

      That’s such a smarter idea

    • @ofal5124
      @ofal5124 10 месяцев назад

      It's not like I want to participate in your stupid airsoft olympics B-baka!

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 10 месяцев назад +8

      At this point who cares about this games lore or about the game itself.Fk it.Theres literally skins of rick and morty,master chief and other goofy anime like women operators and people still cares about lore.Jeez.

    • @mc85it26
      @mc85it26 10 месяцев назад +1

      Thats literally exactly what they did

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +21

      Nope thats a lie. The developers definitely expressed that this is the real Deimos@@mc85it26

  • @brazilianGuy254
    @brazilianGuy254 10 месяцев назад +1241

    The moment that made me drop from the lore were when the ducking writers decided to pick up a elite anti terrorism unit and make them fitgh themselves in a damn stadium, where literally ANYONE can go in and watch their tactics and strategies, like you know what I will end this comment here before I say a lot of bad words.

    • @Artician
      @Artician 10 месяцев назад +66

      "where literally ANYONE can go in and watch their tactics and strategies"
      The internet:

    • @PINESMALL_NOTREAL
      @PINESMALL_NOTREAL 10 месяцев назад +124

      Harry: “Hey guys, I have an idea to show the whole world our own tactics!”
      T*rrorists: “I see this as an absolute win!”

    • @foxprazision1695
      @foxprazision1695 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@PINESMALL_NOTREAL so glad Harry is dead 😊
      bring back john clark

    • @golden-youtube-1
      @golden-youtube-1 10 месяцев назад +3

      I believe canonically only siege staff or smth could watch the event, but it’s still very risky

    • @grigoriyremez8851
      @grigoriyremez8851 10 месяцев назад +62

      @@golden-youtube-1 Why tf would they need a stadium for their own staff then!?

  • @someaussieguy140
    @someaussieguy140 7 месяцев назад +56

    I enjoyed Seige when it first came out, but i hate the direction they took the game.
    It went from being a serious and gritty game to yet another hero shooter with ridiculous and quirky characters.
    Its a good game, but it reallt shouldnt have Tom Clancy's name attached to it anymore.

    • @TheSultan1470
      @TheSultan1470 7 месяцев назад +2

      To be fair, it's not even refered to by it's full name most of the time

  • @bababooey8330
    @bababooey8330 10 месяцев назад +747

    So Deimos just wants the counter terrorism unit... to do their job and kill terrorists? But instead of like acting as an advisor to Rainbow like Zero, he just hunts them down and kills them to I guess prove a point that they're all pussies now?? It's funny how they wrote a villain who's main point is correct but his actions make no sense in relation to it. Deimos was a major missed opportunity to really dig into the morality behind a covert counter terrorism unit with no government oversight.
    If I could rewrite him, I'd make Deimos believe its dangerous to have CTUs exist unchecked, and decides he only trusts himself to run a Rainbow esque unit. So his goal is to essentially cannabalize every non-government CTU and for-hire groups like Nighthaven until hes the only one running what would basically be his version of Rainbow. So he'd first try to recruit anyone from other CTUs including Rainbow and Nighthaven, and those that said no or disagreed with his vision had to be eliminated.
    Additionally, and this part is slightly in the current lore but I would focus on it more, he actually wants covert ops to be, you know, covert. So the whole airsoft olympics thing very much pisses him off. Ok in a perfect world the stadium just would be scrapped entirely bc its obviously stupid as shit but it was already there before Deimos so I gotta work it in. He wants his CTU to be impossible to track for tactical efficiency, especially considering he's going to war with other CTUs, hence why he kills anyone that knows about him and doesn't join the cause.
    To tie his motivations together and make his beef with Rainbow personal, his backstory could be an op that went wrong and his whole team was killed. They were like family to him, and they died because whoever was running Rainbow at the time (I like the idea the leader is just called Six) didn't listen to his input on the op. Something like maybe he wanted to keep the op quiet but Six communicated with a local government for information, that info got out and led to an ambush. Then he has specific motivation to run Rainbow the "right way", seeing Rainbow as his white whale and ultimate goal of his crusade. While he initially reaches out to some ops about joining, maybe swaying some Nighthaven ops, his undisclosed goal is to kill Harry. Maybe he frames Nighthaven for Harry's death, causing a civil war between the two teams so he has less ops to contend with, leaving only the best ops alive and very open to join a well run CTU after their's was destroyed. He'd be the only one left for them to work for.

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +159

      You need to be hired

    • @AGnar0k
      @AGnar0k 10 месяцев назад +47

      Bro I would love this game again if this was the actual lore

    • @averymicrowave1713
      @averymicrowave1713 10 месяцев назад +55

      Only thing I really disagree is your proposal for his background motivations, mainly because the Six at the time would've been either John Clark or Domingo "Ding" Chavez - who were HIGHLY competent at their jobs and both ran Rainbow like clockwork until a bad apple in Vegas nearly compromised the team's existence.
      I would maybe work Vegas into the story - with Gerald's team or family killed due to the data leaks, or have his team killed due to higher international bureaucracy (maybe some high level bureaucrats secretly compromised their operation as part of some deal, or were trying to force them to let some terrorist go).
      I would even add some consequence to Harry setting up the fucking stadium and essentially publicizing Rainbow's existence so there's actually some credence and threat to his desire to turn operators against eachother/to his side and more clear reasoning to Deimos killing him (I can imagine a lot of family-oriented operators supporting Harry's death if his actions led to terrorists targeting them or their loved ones).
      Maybe even imply that he had some backing from various government and military leaders because *publicizing your covert international CTU is VERY bad and you become a loose end*. So now Rainbow is contending not only with the threat Deimos poses, but debating if he operated within their mandate.
      And all this, while being much more compelling than the current lore, would also be a lot more Tom Clancy.

    • @CheekyLad_
      @CheekyLad_ 10 месяцев назад +6

      Its more spectacular when hes killing people plus it lets you interpret him as either the bad or good guy, not saying that this is the better way to write him but im assuming ubi's intentions

    • @averymicrowave1713
      @averymicrowave1713 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@CheekyLad_ True but atm his motivations are pretty weak and it's even weaker considering he's currently training with them when his whole reason for hating current Rainbow is they became a circus performance publicizing their training exercises instead of being the professional, stone-cold troops of his day.

  • @daleksec01
    @daleksec01 10 месяцев назад +147

    Ubisoft has basically looked at the lore team and went: "yeah we'll just make new operators, you just do... whatever makes you happy..."

  • @beatit2464
    @beatit2464 10 месяцев назад +361

    Its like if the Rescue Heroes stop doing their actual job and saving people to do a special training all the time

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage 10 месяцев назад +33

      Or if GI Joe decided to host a field day and just let Cobra do NFT scams or whatever petty scheme they've cooked up for this week's episode.

    • @beatit2464
      @beatit2464 10 месяцев назад +4

      @Calvin_Coolage exactly you could call deimos Commander Cobra of siege
      And the same with the Decepticons

    • @polargray1
      @polargray1 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@beatit2464 And then Cobra Commander and Destro would occasionally train with the Joes because they agreed

    • @CrazyPlatinum92
      @CrazyPlatinum92 10 месяцев назад +4

      You fail me yet again Starscream

    • @casualtr4sh
      @casualtr4sh 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yo, rescue heroes was my shit.

  • @Kevwardusa
    @Kevwardusa 7 месяцев назад +32

    Tom Clancy has to be rolling in his grave knowing how they turned his grounded IP into a E-Sports mega-simp cringefest.

    • @sydssolanumsamsys
      @sydssolanumsamsys 3 месяца назад

      good. tom clancy was a nationalistic militaristic fascist, fuck 'em.

  • @LoremIPs2
    @LoremIPs2 10 месяцев назад +448

    Thank God Tom Clancy isn't alive to see the shit they did to his beloved franchise.

    • @friendlyfire3412
      @friendlyfire3412 9 месяцев назад +33

      Its like America Veterans, Video : "We Haven't Got the Country We Had When I Was Raised': 100-Year-old Veteran Worried About America"
      I can feel that man now... He would have said the same.

    • @malaizze
      @malaizze 9 месяцев назад +8

      The best thing Siege ever did was trash that old loser’s legacy

    • @euracleon
      @euracleon 9 месяцев назад +24

      @@malaizze broski mastered the art of bait

    • @HotdogSosage
      @HotdogSosage 9 месяцев назад +19

      @@euracleon would have to make rage to be true

    • @reno239
      @reno239 9 месяцев назад +11

      @@malaizzebait so unbelievable you couldn’t catch trout with it.

  • @Kano_Productions
    @Kano_Productions 10 месяцев назад +251

    I miss the old r6, when it took itself serious. Nowadays I'm fighting fuckin pickle rick

    • @archbishopofthecrusades9579
      @archbishopofthecrusades9579 10 месяцев назад +19

      Yeah, I thought the games entire draw was that it was more grounded and serious than CoD or BF. Now it's just another shooter.

    • @sendingit2601
      @sendingit2601 10 месяцев назад +7

      What sucks is that it sells. It all works still, so the machine continues to push on.

  • @einsUNDcolt
    @einsUNDcolt 10 месяцев назад +408

    Team Rainbow in Arknights has a more serious story with a more realistic tone. And that story starts with Ash, Tachanka, Blitz, and Frost getting Isakei'd into a world where they have to fight magic mutants along side a talking lizard man and cat girls

    • @indomaretlawrence1069
      @indomaretlawrence1069 10 месяцев назад +15

      He was a good Doctor.....

    • @typeoddnamehere2362
      @typeoddnamehere2362 10 месяцев назад +70

      It's kind of funny that it also still does world building for Arknights, namely what happens when someone dies of funny rock cancer (Oripathy). Also how Team Rainbow's firearms work compared to how they work in Arknights, and the potential shitstorm that could cause.

    • @DakotaofRaptors
      @DakotaofRaptors 10 месяцев назад +12

      I only know of Arknights thanks to some fanart...is this legit the story?

    • @einsUNDcolt
      @einsUNDcolt 10 месяцев назад +45

      @@DakotaofRaptors yeah, in broad strokes that is their story in Arknights. And in like 6 months that story is getting a repeat and we're getting a second story where Doc, Ela, Iana, and Fuze are trying to find the lost four; also get Isakei'd to the same world; and get caught up in civil unrest in Not Cuba and have to fight terrorist dog boys

    • @mercenarydelta7351
      @mercenarydelta7351 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@DakotaofRaptors yep it is. And it's better than what Siege lore is nowadays.

  • @light819
    @light819 8 дней назад +4

    siege's lore is an attempt to make tom clancy's corpse generate power due to how much he rolls over in his grave.

    • @HYP3Rbrody
      @HYP3Rbrody 8 дней назад

      probably to power their "money printer" considering it's Ubisoft

  • @starsjosephfrost
    @starsjosephfrost 10 месяцев назад +212

    so the devs made “Deimos” as the evil personification of the OG players who wanted rainbow to go back to its original form yet they have the guts to make him bad and then turning him into a just a regular airsoft operator.

    • @ProbNotCross
      @ProbNotCross 10 месяцев назад +4

      *Deimos, he is called Deimos.

    • @starsjosephfrost
      @starsjosephfrost 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@ProbNotCross alright thanks.

    • @SBImNotWritingMyNameHere
      @SBImNotWritingMyNameHere 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@starsjosephfrostgood
      Now don't make that mistake again

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 10 месяцев назад +32

      Really goes to show you why games are so bad nowadays. Its because the developers dislike the playerbase and want to drive them away for their own slop.

    • @LaRavachole
      @LaRavachole 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778If I was a dev and my playerbase was anything similar to Siege's, I'd hate it too lol

  • @Gannoh
    @Gannoh 10 месяцев назад +262

    It's important to keep in mind that the first Rainbow Six novel was about trying to stop terrorists from releasing a lethal virus at the Olympics.
    For some reason, the writers thought it'd be a good idea to have the world's most dangerous task force in public, showcasing military tactics all under one roof at their own Olympics. Terrorists could literally just study Rainbow's tactics, or even better just kill all of Team Rainbow in one place.
    Insanely stupid writing, even for Ubisoft. And then, there's Nighthaven...

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +41

      The idea of making a PMC such as Nighthaven having any level of technological competition or sometimes being technologically superior to Rainbow is simply INSANE. John Clark said how difficult it was to get stuff to Rainbow, and even their heartbeat sensors were donated by the government or something. But nope, let's just see these bum-ass mercenaries outplay Rainbow like they're nothing.

    • @roningfroggy
      @roningfroggy 10 месяцев назад +6

      Not to mention with those Olympics, Ding even thanks to himself about how what they do isn't sport and would never be shown at the Olympics.

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +12

      @@roningfroggy Ding and the other Rainbow members were literally undercover during the Olympics mission in Sydney. If I'm right, not even the Australian Police was to be informed that someone carrying a vial that cointained a lethal virus was around. Nobody even knew Rainbow were there. But nah, screw the novel, let's see Mira and Ash duke it out with a bunch of bums watching it from a stadium stand.

  • @Gamingproductionv2
    @Gamingproductionv2 10 месяцев назад +603

    Tbh the graphics for siege kind of went down over the year aswell as the story. Tactical shooter goes downward into anime drama levels of writing

    • @eltacobandito
      @eltacobandito 10 месяцев назад +75

      Not the graphics, it was the lighting which i do wish they brought back

    • @robertspeedwagon982
      @robertspeedwagon982 10 месяцев назад +98

      the lighting was so damn good before, ALSO NIGHT MAPS RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

    • @RickMoren477
      @RickMoren477 10 месяцев назад +36

      Which is funny that an anime game collab arknight treat R6 character better in that game than Ubisoft ever did. Probably help that Arknight developer is a huge fan of the game

    • @bennetth.929
      @bennetth.929 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@robertspeedwagon982 Night maps werent great since you could easily see the attackers in windows and some skins made it hard af to see attackers too

    • @robertspeedwagon982
      @robertspeedwagon982 10 месяцев назад +29

      @@bennetth.929 it's realist, it mixes up the way people play (and other games with competent devs made similar maps togglable for sweaty tryhards who can't enjoy anything)

  • @BeverageOfSorts
    @BeverageOfSorts 8 месяцев назад +11

    'Basicallyhomeless' on youtube made a bunch of entertainment focused videos where he hacked in ranked R6 MULTIPLE TIMES.
    And then he got invited to host a R6 event, he was hyped, told everyone, went to the event, stayed chatting with everyone, and got the sneaking suspicion they didnt know exactly what his content contains.
    Like an hour before going live he went up to the event manager and said
    "hey btw you know what my content is?"
    "No" was the reply
    "I hack R6" he educated, before being removed as host.
    They never cared.

  • @TrollingWolfGaming
    @TrollingWolfGaming 10 месяцев назад +99

    It's a shame they gutted Rainbow Six: Patriots to make this game.

  • @owgamer7415
    @owgamer7415 10 месяцев назад +198

    I often think about how ace is supposed to be a natural disaster rescue guy saving people that works for a private mercenary group

    • @dankim7831
      @dankim7831 10 месяцев назад +27

      He always was an egotist

  • @sampledgem6215
    @sampledgem6215 10 месяцев назад +62

    I grew up with R6 Vegas and Vegas 2. The switch from a grounded story of an anti-terror group stopping terrors to E-sports was like going from GTA 4 to Saints Row 3.

    • @G59forlife.
      @G59forlife. 9 месяцев назад

      At least Saints Row 3 isn’t anywhere close to sieges level of cringe tho

  • @PassanCat
    @PassanCat 7 месяцев назад +31

    The true worst part is, that someone got paid in "writing" this.

    • @jeffbo8748
      @jeffbo8748 7 месяцев назад +9

      Worse still, they probably had something much better originally and anything good got sandblasted off by crunch and Ubisoft wanting to make it “marketable to a wider audience”

    • @Klongu_Da_Bongu
      @Klongu_Da_Bongu 5 месяцев назад

      @@jeffbo8748 Probably even worse, they had one of those company meetings where it was like "You know what's popular? Fortnite! We should make our game more similar to get bigger profits" type of situation.

    • @tVt2000
      @tVt2000 2 месяца назад +2

      Can guarantee that they wanted to do something better but got messed over by the executives

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 7 дней назад

      AAA Game Writers typically don't wanna make shit like this. It's usually the result of higher ups demanding they polish a turd.
      Terrible writing can only be blamed solely on the writers if its an indie game where they had free charge.

  • @tobysealz3574
    @tobysealz3574 10 месяцев назад +106

    I miss the good o'l days where I can fire up T-hunt with my friends and chat while we farm credits in a somewhat chill fashion

  • @drippnjimmy1033
    @drippnjimmy1033 9 месяцев назад +458

    Jesus Christ, I had no idea where the lore went after outbreak

    • @nobodycares3900
      @nobodycares3900 8 месяцев назад +17

      Oh God. Outbreak is another forgotten project.

    • @The.empire.enjoyer
      @The.empire.enjoyer 8 месяцев назад +36

      @@nobodycares3900 outbreak was one of the best dlcs. Too bad everything went downhill after operation parabellum

    • @nobodycares3900
      @nobodycares3900 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@The.empire.enjoyer you know. I feel like operation para bellum was the last good update for rainbow.

    • @The.empire.enjoyer
      @The.empire.enjoyer 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@nobodycares3900 for real

    • @Somejaun
      @Somejaun 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@nobodycares3900 Fr game finally died for me in shifting tides, now I only return like every 6 months to play a couple games

  • @SirShadeyy
    @SirShadeyy 10 месяцев назад +189

    I think that Deimos killing Harry is representative of the devs attempting to go back to a more grounded story without the stadium and games bs. Ever since Harry was killed off, they’ve had a more direct story of Keres versus Rainbow, but I can’t be bothered to learn about it past the surface level because there’s no gameplay content to experience the story in.

    • @Beranus
      @Beranus 10 месяцев назад +16

      Yeah, imagine if they made proper Rainbow Six game instead of shit like Extraction.

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn 10 месяцев назад +32

      The "Harry" arc was the worst period of this dogshit franchise. "We should hire a psychologist to run an international anti-terrorism organization" what?

    • @nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375
      @nasfoda_gamerbrbigproducti5375 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@hermitgreenn Because the thing you need the most during an operation is love and team bound, not tactics or actual skills haha

    • @VValkyr
      @VValkyr 10 месяцев назад +3

      That cinematic gave me a ray of hope, and then next season came out packed with more cringe. Yeah, fool me twice ubi

    • @LelandJ71
      @LelandJ71 9 месяцев назад +2

      Story is still gonna be shi. Same devs.

  • @skootmeister3994
    @skootmeister3994 Месяц назад +6

    It's absolutely pathetic when you consider the past games weren't big bombastic tales, but the gravity of the situation was there. The first game (based on the novel as you said) included the overall plot of ecoterroism conducted by a CEO and his cronies to release a modified Ebola variant to kill off humanity.
    Not only that, something else I can't stand is the new "modern/realistic" aesthetic. As in the attire. Rainbow went from a uniform appearance to this CoD/airsoft mishmash.
    This is happening to Ghost Recon too. No more soldier of tomorrow. Now it's the lumberjack wannabe and his merry band of part-timers with decade old M4s and T-shirts. Yet they apparently share a universe, meaning there's no excuse for this "modern day" nonsense.

  • @alexm.a.d892
    @alexm.a.d892 10 месяцев назад +203

    Why this game needed more than "special forces fight against knock off KKK who gas people" for its lore?

    • @moai6275
      @moai6275 10 месяцев назад +58

      Because they killed all the spicy air boys in article 5 and decided that they were cringe now.

    • @GenericProtagonist7
      @GenericProtagonist7 10 месяцев назад

      What, at all, is the similarity to the KKK other than them being terrorists?

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@moai6275out of all of my friends, I was the only one to actually beat Article 5, and it was absolute dogshit

    • @moai6275
      @moai6275 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@choppergunner8650 im not saying it wasn't, im just saying they killed them off in it

    • @archer454
      @archer454 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@choppergunner8650 I actually really liked it. I beat it a bunch of times. I kinda wish they did more pve stuff but probably never gonna happen.

  • @RedCruuve
    @RedCruuve 10 месяцев назад +361

    You can tell by character design when the story shift happened as well. You cannot tell me that those that designed and wrote ops like Glaz and Kapkan are the same people that designed Sens, Junkrat and Roadho…sorry, Mozzie and Gridlock, Osa, Azami, Fenrir, Kali, Amaru, Iana, etc…

    • @pipp972
      @pipp972 10 месяцев назад +29

      At least they're getting back on track. Solis, Deimos to some degree I guess.

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад +84

      Oh God, Osa and Sens are the worst. Literally characters made to pander to a specific agenda. They would never get military training anywhere in the world, and even if they did, it certainly wouldn't be enough to land them a spot in the world's "best counter terrorist unit".

    • @Dervitox
      @Dervitox 10 месяцев назад +59

      @@choppergunner8650 bro gridlock weight like 2 tons, and is inside the best antiterrorist unit of the world, like wtf

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 месяцев назад

      @@Dervitox yeah. Rapelling would be literally impossible (her body weight + all the equipment she carries would break her fucking back). And Aruni is literally handicapped (Capitão is handicapped too, but I guess losing an eye is definitely better than losing half a body), yet R6, which started out as a somewhat realistic game, wants us to believe that this woman can punch through wooden planks, can run at top speed and fire guns, all with prosthetics? Fuck off.
      Most Siege characters are a joke nowadays. It's literally characters made to fit agendas, and not characters to fit whatever's left of realism in Siege. Gridlock's supposed to combat "fat shaming", Kali's bio is literally about "the woman, oppressed by nasty men in her society, built her own mercenary army", Thunderbird is supposed to represent Native Americans, Flores is supposed to represent gays, Osa is trans, Sens is non-binary/toaster/whatever the fuck... like, when you watch roadmap reveals, you see that operator's country flag and you'd start to imagine how the operator would be. I always imagined that the Croatian operator would be some huge dude, with 200 pounds of muscles, probably a veteran of the Yugoslav Wars, scarred by the experience, probably lost his family to terrorists, joined the anti-terrorist squad to prevent more innocent lives from being taken, and not "they/them grew up in a place full of toys and had identity crisis when a teenager". The absolute disrespect to what the fanbase used to be, combined with excessive uses of unnecessary rebalancing of operators, weapons, "give an ACOG to this weapon, take it away from that weapon", "give him C4 instead of barbed wire, give her frags instead of flashbangs", taking maps in and out of the map rotation, and always remaking them to the worst possible designs that would make an architect kill himself, always pandering to Pro League as if the average player is as skilled as they are... that's what made me stop playing Siege altogether and said "fuck it". Never playing this piece of fucking trash ever in my life.

    • @guilhermebranco8572
      @guilhermebranco8572 10 месяцев назад +16

      Yup, the entire creative team was changed at around that point, not just the writers but creative director, artists, everything

  • @corpsejaded
    @corpsejaded 10 месяцев назад +231

    as a very new siege player, i thought that the defenders and attackers had deep, interconnected lore that would explain why they are on separate sides and that they actually didnt like each other and viewed each other as enemies. turns out theyre all best friends training in front of thousands of people 💀.

    • @Somejaun
      @Somejaun 7 месяцев назад +6

      The most lore around that is between Ela and Zofia but even that is pretty shallow

    • @corpsejaded
      @corpsejaded 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@Somejaun yh, i saw an explanation on that, and its so sad to see that they removed every single piece of lore from the gameplay to make the game competitive. Apparently, ela and zofia were both immune to each others concussion gadgets, and they both had withstand from what i heard.

    • @Wazer.W
      @Wazer.W 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@corpsejaded Not quite immune but they recovered far faster than the other ops. And they did have withstand. Zofia was the first op to ever have withstand and I remember watching the livestream of the sneak peak and all my friends went nuts when we saw that

    • @hemogoblin69
      @hemogoblin69 4 месяца назад

      @@corpsejaded hibana and pulse are in a relationship with each other, and echo can't receive calls from dokabei because they text each other irl and he blocks her number during a match, not joking

    • @Why_does_this_exist_YouTube
      @Why_does_this_exist_YouTube 3 месяца назад +1

      @@corpsejaded I always thought they were just doing training, just without the Thousands of people watching

  • @dynamite3414
    @dynamite3414 Месяц назад +7

    I'm not going to lie, I am so sick of the 'its a virtual game show' or 'its just a game show and everyone is a celebrity' shtick. Rainbow 6, The Finals, Apex Legends, so many multiplayer shooters are using this trope now.

  • @rcinpact4480
    @rcinpact4480 10 месяцев назад +235

    When that loading screen of the game changed I knew it was the beginning of the end. No more Terrorist. No more maturity, no more tactical decisions or politics. Just a generic shooter with some destruction. I really was hopping it wouldn’t come to that, I held hope, but year after year I finally saw the writing on the wall and deleted the game, for it wasn’t what I originally bought it for. While the skeleton is there the soul is gone, and I miss it. It’s not a Tom Clancy game anymore, it’s a Ubisoft Game with a Tom Clancy Sticker over it. :( RIP

    • @Geek-x
      @Geek-x 10 месяцев назад +25

      bro r6 has had its highest player count in 9 years, keep yappin little fella

    • @thepurpleemu
      @thepurpleemu 10 месяцев назад +54

      doesnt matter I like the game but I hate the art style and the new direction of the game and it doesnt hit the same

    • @Dr.Glock5562
      @Dr.Glock5562 10 месяцев назад +61

      for me the game lost itself when Ubisoft started sucking off esports players." OOoooOOO ZoFIaS aBiLiTy Is BrOkEn" when rook armor does the same thing with more health. anyway they took everything fun and useful to the player all because esports players couldnt play the game with these features. Team Kick system, the old team kill system, the old ranked abandoned sanction not banning you for 30 mins for getting disconnected from a match, hell you cant even cook a grenade anymore

    • @juggram_99
      @juggram_99 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@thepurpleemuwhy would you want the team vote kick and the old tk system back bruh 💀. I would understand if you are just a troll, otherwise it is really dumb

    • @K3ntucky123
      @K3ntucky123 10 месяцев назад +60

      ​@@Geek-xbro rainbow six has lost its peak of "Tactical" shooter, keep talking little fella

  • @DylanoRevs
    @DylanoRevs 10 месяцев назад +121

    Arknights made a better story regarding (some of) the operators than Ubisoft themselves. They even care more about the IP of them being a counter-terrorism unit

    • @devilbuster20xx37
      @devilbuster20xx37 10 месяцев назад +14

      I would bet my money that Blue Archive has more self respect than Siege

  • @jimmytrex0920
    @jimmytrex0920 10 месяцев назад +96

    I love how in Overwatch, you can pair Doomfist, the main baddie that Overwatch is hunting down, with the Overwatch team themselves and nobody cares

    • @OrionDawn15
      @OrionDawn15 10 месяцев назад +20

      One thing that I despise about hero shooters. It's immersion-breaking to see someone blatantly working with the opposing faction.

    • @scoobydoo7275
      @scoobydoo7275 10 месяцев назад +58

      @@OrionDawn15 immersed in overwatch lmfao

    • @KhezuOnYourScreen
      @KhezuOnYourScreen 10 месяцев назад

      ​@OrionDawn15 the only thing about overwatch I'm immersed in is the VR porn

    • @midgematic
      @midgematic 9 месяцев назад +2

      They also recently added the Omnic terrorist that spearheaded/lead the Omnic uprising, yknow, one of, if not THE biggest wars in Overwatch’s world? The war that Overwatch was created for? Right there fighting alongside Soldier 76. That game is goofy ngl

    • @OrionDawn15
      @OrionDawn15 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@scoobydoo7275 You can be immersed in... most games, under the right conditions. It's not unreasonable to want. Also I didn't specifically say 'Overwatch' now did I?

  • @alexdomenick2135
    @alexdomenick2135 2 месяца назад +4

    E-Sports ruined this game, from the lore to the actual game mechanics, Ubisoft really changed the game in the worst ways

  • @shadowmarine9706
    @shadowmarine9706 10 месяцев назад +54

    Ever since Fortnite and battlepasses became popular, the story which is true for other games as well is where games pursued the live service model which was when cosmetics and quirky characters were emphasized over realism and integrity.

    • @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
      @jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 10 месяцев назад +12

      Yeah all these live service games have the worst lore in gaming and I am so fed up with it. People need to call this out more. The lore DOES matter and gamers deserve better. I want the next generation of gamers to have storys as good as halo to play. Not this fortnite slop. Cause thats what it is, its slop and lazy.

    • @roguedoge2479
      @roguedoge2479 10 месяцев назад

      Oh I don't even give the story any thought. There IS no story. It's literally just whatever improvised bullshit they can think of every couple months that doesn't completely derail the improvised bullshit they've come up with so far. I've never seen "Assassins Creed 2" level-lore from a live-service game.

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 9 месяцев назад

      Story in modern halo is ass aswell.

    • @eightcoins4401
      @eightcoins4401 7 дней назад

      @@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 Why bother with *good* lore if you're a glorified gacha game but FPS that is trying to attract whales for profit?
      The first mistake was turning every second FPS into a multiplayer only competitive live service

  • @TheOrangeMan13
    @TheOrangeMan13 10 месяцев назад +717

    didnt even know siege had lore 💀

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +114

      Gameplay = 🔥🔥🔥
      Lore = 🗑️

    • @bigpotato3355
      @bigpotato3355 10 месяцев назад +116

      @@iAmLufa Gameplay = 💀💀💀

    • @mschf_0
      @mschf_0 10 месяцев назад +6

      I wish it didn’t

    • @epgamer1145
      @epgamer1145 10 месяцев назад

      @@iAmLufait’s the non shinny metal.

    • @K3ntucky123
      @K3ntucky123 10 месяцев назад +35

      Gameplay was pure trash, too many sweaty playerbase

  • @loganswalk8621
    @loganswalk8621 10 месяцев назад +161

    They could’ve just had the White Masks funded by a rogue state of Whateverstan lead by a charismatic dictator and have them be the main villains for awhile.

    • @randomindividual948
      @randomindividual948 9 месяцев назад +14

      Or have Aurelia funding them to have both the White Masks and Rainbow at her beck and call.

    • @cevatkokbudak6414
      @cevatkokbudak6414 9 месяцев назад +2

      Or they can stayed with monsters but more scawy

    • @eccentricjoe8786
      @eccentricjoe8786 9 месяцев назад +1

      truly the mediumest outcome

  • @UndyingBaron
    @UndyingBaron 4 месяца назад +19

    1:37 there are no zombies in ba sing se

  • @bigman9854
    @bigman9854 10 месяцев назад +68

    Imagine if instead of a stadium it was all based around intense training in a covert kill house training ground somewhere. Surely someone thought of that instead to be more grounded and achieve the same thing

    • @Francisco-ow6bl
      @Francisco-ow6bl 10 месяцев назад +17

      That's just old hereford base. Until they gutted it and made it into a villa

  • @matteoquellobrutto5765
    @matteoquellobrutto5765 10 месяцев назад +78

    rainbow's story stumbled so that for honor story could fall of a cliff

    • @jamesmoist1184
      @jamesmoist1184 8 месяцев назад +3

      The last time I checked For Honor lore consisted of mining dwarf fire crystals and the chinese being there? Is this still up to date?

    • @matteoquellobrutto5765
      @matteoquellobrutto5765 8 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@jamesmoist1184 yeah: every season is divided in the early season lore wich can be summarized in "The Bad Guy™" (premium skin sold separately) goes usually (usually, as like 90% of the time) after "the super powerful magic item that was always there but nobody thought to get it first™" and then it evolves into the mid-end season lore that consist of "The Good Guy ™" (wich can be a NEW hero or a premium skin) getting pissed because of what "The Bad Guy ™" did and coming to For honor, as in the game and the place, to kick is ass and ending up staying because he\she didn't have the money to buy a bus ticket.

  • @moonmoon4537
    @moonmoon4537 10 месяцев назад +200

    The stadium idea works just fine, but they should have explained it by saying something like:
    ‘The stadium is a showcase of new state-of-the-art production military hardware (operator gadgets) and tactics, with the intent for military contracting.’
    Essentially, all of the operator gadgets are new technology developed by private companies (or by the operators themselves) and are being showcased in simulated setting, with the intent of selling them for military production.
    Makes a lot more sense than this being a sporting event

    • @Sorain1
      @Sorain1 10 месяцев назад +13

      Heck, have the cooperate end be why it's a 'sporting event' because they wanted financing. (and/or tax breaks)

    • @felwinter2736
      @felwinter2736 10 месяцев назад +16

      Imagine a private company asking about bandit's fucking car battery gadget

    • @nooloo5968
      @nooloo5968 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@felwinter2736 or damn sledgehammer

    • @skellybonz5467
      @skellybonz5467 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@nooloo5968 well that works a lot more than a car battery, sledge hammers are still used by some swat teams and other groups. Bandit has 3 car batteries while his coworker Jeager uses a compact ballistic defense system.
      Also rook is literally just a extra layer of kevlar

  • @Mothlocks
    @Mothlocks 2 месяца назад +5

    i genuinely forgot how this game used to be intense, i remember clearing article 5 for the first time and SWEATING around each corner

  • @RouGeZH
    @RouGeZH 10 месяцев назад +228

    Tom Clancy must be rolling in his grave.
    It's the biggest "F YOU" to the source material that I've ever seen.

    • @lolohnah
      @lolohnah 8 месяцев назад +2

      No that was x defiant, this is just a close second

    • @pac-man163
      @pac-man163 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@lolohnah at least xdefiant had sum decency to drop the tom clancy name, this definitely takes #1

  • @eamonwharton-ye3dy
    @eamonwharton-ye3dy 10 месяцев назад +72

    Deimos could’ve been a 1v5 mode, with Deimos having a bunch of buffs, like higher health, full knowledge of openets, and a base that had a lookout and maybe a drone or cannon or smth

    • @joelastr
      @joelastr 8 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah, like a juggernaut game mode

  • @onscreenmoper
    @onscreenmoper 10 месяцев назад +142

    What's funny is that The Finals does what R6 basically does, but way better because it was always supposed to be a goofy premise for a multiplayer FPS. There was never a serious grounded backstory to trample on.

    • @firstnamelastname7244
      @firstnamelastname7244 Месяц назад

      The finals is great! It's a bit like a cross between R6 and battlefield. Recommend it for anyone who likes either game.

  • @novemberbravo6194
    @novemberbravo6194 7 месяцев назад +9

    Wow.
    I mean, just...wow. I had no clue that this was the direction that the game’s story went. Granted, I’m a 100% PVE guy, so I’ve never played it, but I remember watching the trailers for the base version of the game and thinking it looked really cool. You’re absolutely right, this seems like it’s gone utterly off the grid in terms of being ridiculous and removing itself from the grounded, realistic tone set by the early days of the franchise.
    Thanks for taking the time to make and share this; even for someone like me who’s never played the game, I still found it fascinating!

  • @takedown205productions6
    @takedown205productions6 10 месяцев назад +78

    Probably my biggest gripe, besides the tourney revealing the identities of Rainbow Operatives, was Operation Chimera. Doc was somehow allowed to make a decision over his head, that nearly resulted in the whole world getting infected and turned, just because he disapproved of a nuclear device being used to stop it.
    Some of the operatives are humanitarians, when they shouldn't be, and it's stupid.

  • @itsumayo
    @itsumayo 10 месяцев назад +205

    My only knowledge of the Rainbow 6 Siege lore before watching the video was the following:
    -Please be patient, Jäger has autism
    -Breaking Bandit
    -Vigil is literally Batman
    -Zofia was nearly drowned as a child and one of her weapons is an airsoft gun
    -Deimos. Idk
    -Castle is a nerd
    -All praise be to Lord Tachanka

    • @marcusangelomunoz756
      @marcusangelomunoz756 10 месяцев назад +22

      All hail lord Tachanka

    • @nade7242
      @nade7242 10 месяцев назад

      which gun of zofs is airsoft

    • @jennywitch4768
      @jennywitch4768 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@nade7242If I remember correctly the LMG was just flat out based on an airsoft gun.

    • @joshuavillagomez8369
      @joshuavillagomez8369 10 месяцев назад

      Thatcher is an old man that hates technology

    • @asolomoth1066
      @asolomoth1066 10 месяцев назад +5

      Mozzie can crip walk

  • @bigpotato3355
    @bigpotato3355 10 месяцев назад +444

    I don't think story is a main part in r6 because the target audience isn't interested in it. Like you said, they're in it for the gameplay, and the company notices that.

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +155

      I would agree except for the fact that you can see Ubisoft has heavily invested in their story over the last 3 years, arguably more than when the game started. They care about building their story because they have made dozens of CGI animations for it, and they push those animations like through the map stadium. But the writing is bad

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@iAmLufa I don't think that's really to make any player care about the world in a detailed or specific sense - Raycevick (forgive the butchered spelling) argued recently for Ubi really pushing spectacle in marketing, no matter if the rubber actually meets the road in their games - so it's possible that CGI and other stuff really only exists for the flashiness, and is hollow otherwise because they don't really care beyond the marketing affect.

    • @_Ryder.b
      @_Ryder.b 10 месяцев назад +3

      W PROFILE BROOOOO

    • @LordSoundWave
      @LordSoundWave 10 месяцев назад +3

      Its in a story focused series tf you mean?

    • @Walleyedwosaik
      @Walleyedwosaik 10 месяцев назад +2

      GORILLAZ PFP

  • @Bamboozler2349
    @Bamboozler2349 7 месяцев назад +25

    Also, don’t these operators still belong to their own countries and units? If they aren’t needed by rainbow anymore because the global white mask threat is defeated, then it would make sense that they return to their countries to be used by their countries for missions and operations.

  • @shycho1690
    @shycho1690 10 месяцев назад +97

    The whole tournament thing can work if instead of being a public event it's a private event which is used to recruit new operators and test their skills, you can have drama between the old and new operators and if still want audience you can have military guys cheering their buddies

    • @cicadaknight3048
      @cicadaknight3048 7 месяцев назад +21

      This is already a million times better than what we got lmao bravo Shycho, Ubisoft should've hired you instead

  • @ReticularTunic7
    @ReticularTunic7 10 месяцев назад +343

    3:31 You can get demonetized for saying “Terrorist” now ? What happens if you were playing Counter Strike and the announcer says “Counter Terrorists win” ?

    • @Dr.Oofers
      @Dr.Oofers 9 месяцев назад +118

      Death

    • @janpawulonduo2137
      @janpawulonduo2137 7 месяцев назад +68

      RUclips's just looking for excuses to not have to pay revenue money.

    • @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895
      @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 7 месяцев назад +5

      This is their MO dude. Open your eyes

    • @justhere4637
      @justhere4637 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 What does MO mean?

    • @b1gs3xy17
      @b1gs3xy17 7 месяцев назад +22

      @@justhere4637 "Modus operandi" or "mode/way of operating"

  • @noobguy9973
    @noobguy9973 10 месяцев назад +137

    Bro Deimos is literally all of us who say f*ck Siege that thing shits all over Tom Clancy's legacy and they should've just continued with R6 Patriots ... at least Ghost Recon hasn't been turned into cartoony esports game like come on none of these games are going to over throw Counter-Strike why even bother.

    • @thatonefpsgamer1339
      @thatonefpsgamer1339 10 месяцев назад +5

      Awww that's cute. Take the copium

    • @noobguy9973
      @noobguy9973 10 месяцев назад +58

      @@thatonefpsgamer1339 nah I would just prefer if the world stopped changing stuff I used to love for worse.

    • @thatonefpsgamer1339
      @thatonefpsgamer1339 10 месяцев назад

      @@noobguy9973 remember these opinions are subjective. I know you might be too small brained to understand that

    • @epgamer1145
      @epgamer1145 10 месяцев назад

      @@noobguy9973ESG scores tell them to change crap

    • @krit6678
      @krit6678 10 месяцев назад +12

      ghost recon has been dog shit since wildlands what are you smoking

  • @demaloite8551
    @demaloite8551 Месяц назад +5

    Aren't the Rainbow Six operators recruited from the best-of-the-best special forces agencies around the world, and that means they basically need clearance from all of those special forces agencies in order to use their gear and operate in foreign countries? They're only able to get the unanimous clearance they have for their counter-terrorism operations due to the extreme severity of the threats they face.
    Why did all of these extremely serious, no-funny-business special forces agencies give Rainbow Six the clearance to use their operators and expensive equipment in airsoft tournaments?

  • @Follow_your_path
    @Follow_your_path 10 месяцев назад +56

    Deimos was the only good thing they added in a while and then they arrest and and take him in after just adding him in a trailer he ain’t even last a couple months 💀

    • @iAmLufa
      @iAmLufa  10 месяцев назад +9

      Bro might be the worst mercenary of all time

    • @Sprutky
      @Sprutky 10 месяцев назад

      I mean, he was first revealed longer ago. He just lost his first fight immediately😂

    • @Follow_your_path
      @Follow_your_path 10 месяцев назад

      @@Sprutky he sold

  • @Addicted2Coffein
    @Addicted2Coffein 10 месяцев назад +50

    I always loved the idea of an full length siege campaign were you would fight the white masks and could play with your friends, but sadly we probably won't get that and if so it would most likely be it's own spin off game to get more money out of the franchise

    • @fnyquist8779
      @fnyquist8779 Месяц назад +2

      I’d definitely recommend Ready or Not which is basically the game you’re describing. A realistic tactical shooter where you play as a member of a swat team through a series of connected missions. Either Coop or commanding a squad of AI.

  • @JamesNeutron115
    @JamesNeutron115 10 месяцев назад +78

    1:41 Caseoh just made my phone 100x heavier with his presence

  • @kubz1570
    @kubz1570 9 месяцев назад +7

    I really like the stadium cinematic's first half. Training at the ABANDONED stadium. Using the training dummies as targets, having those obstacles and reusing the location is so cool... But then they made it a public event.

  • @tomkiernan254
    @tomkiernan254 10 месяцев назад +86

    Tom Clancy is spinning like a turbine in his grave. (Even his most ridiculous plot lines have nothing on this mess).

  • @gamelover1779
    @gamelover1779 10 месяцев назад +121

    that’s because it was all for fucking esports. it’s always about greed or clout. greed is ruining the gaming industry

    • @azerty1933
      @azerty1933 10 месяцев назад +15

      All companies just want to make the new fortnite which is a shame. If anything doom showed that people want single player shooters and are willing to pay for them
      I wish we could get a single player tactical shooter that is only a single player tactical shooter

    • @OrionDawn15
      @OrionDawn15 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@azerty1933 Transience is a SP tactical shooter being made by BigFryTV, a youtuber. There's also a free demo on Steam. Assuming it's good at launch, it might just be up your alley.

  • @gdshark9558
    @gdshark9558 10 месяцев назад +45

    Ngl I was so happy Deimos dropped Harry

  • @jeffbo8748
    @jeffbo8748 7 месяцев назад +8

    A much better way to keep it in-line with the Tom Clancy Brand is have the two-team drama be because they joined competing PMCs who disagree on rules of engagement (one is by-the-books, one is shoot-first-ask-questions-later). An op goes wrong and hostages get killed, Rainbow splits up. Boom, _drama._ It’s not original but it’s *something.*
    A lot of modern media is losing its identity by stripping away its own lore/tone/aesthetics and replacing it with colourful, safe garbage because corporate execs who never even engage in that media want to appeal to the broadest audience possible.