No Helldivers 2 mention? Im shattered. He was waiting so politely there, on his little number 8 spot, and you just ignored him. Jokes aside, a wonderful analysis of modern gaming.
TF2 was a Classic before the the release of the Sniper Vs Spy, Mann-Conomy and Uber updates of 2009, 2010 and 2011 After the release of thoses updates it became a Titan
@liliataneva5874 True I hear that TF2 actual player numbers sits around the 15000 players which would put TF2 between 90th-94th place on SteamDB which is a massive drop from the current 15th place that TF2 sits at right now because of combine number Idle Bots, Trade Bots, Casual Bots and Real Players
@luk4323 You can still make Money in TF2 by Afking inside of private vac servers That is why there is only around 15000 real players while the others 60000 are all either Idle Bots, Trade Bots or Casual Bots with the biggest out of thoses 3 being the Idle Bots
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 True but I personally don't feel the same about contracts and Battle passes. Battle passes feel more 'grindy' and 'important'. With contracts you don't feel obligated to do them
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 thing is you can take your time with it, it isn't like a 9/5 job like a battlepass it's more of something you can do on your free time
The game in the top100 that I play most is Geometry Dash. I have hundreds of replays of it on my channel and I just can't stop playing it. When I watched your video I tried to fit it into the categories you listed, and found it difficult to place it. The thing about GD is that the official game itself doesn't really have much content. At its core it is just a random mobile game from the early 2010s that got popular randomly. It is developed by one guy called Robert and doesn't have in-game-purchases. It only costs like 4$ and Robert took 7 years to release the recent update. So how is it in the top100 then? Well I think it isn't for the same reasons another "Classic" like Stardew is up there. The gameplay is similar to little rage games like the Impossible Game and is really really challenging. What really drives its playercount is the community, how else could it have gone 7 years without an update? The level editor in this game is probably the most open for creativity, unlike others, which has led the community to create over 30k dev-approved levels. Basically, infinite content. If I were to make a category for it, i'd call it "community-driven" Funny thing, during the update drought the player count only grew and didn't decline
Yeah I think we need another category for UGC (user generated content games) where most of the content is provided by user generated stuff. Think Fortnite (creative) Roblox, vr chat, raven field, basically any paradox game with a popular modding scene, tabs, tf2, and more. They can all go into some category (mainly titans and classics) but the games mainly thrive off ugc from either modding, or through a creation area made by the dev.
We need more games that make us think and actually stay intelligent sentient people. Also I saw this game in my recommended and knew it was something I wanted to watch, why is the algorithm acting up?
You should do the most popular games on consoles too. Xbox has some interesting ones that show the demographics of the console well, it’s available online for anyone interested.
4:00 I think using plat from Warframe to depict the negative connotation of premium currency is really bad, it's literally the only "premium currency" that's earnable and tradeable. I m not talking about 10 dollar worth for grinding a year like some other but actually 50-100 dollar worth every couple days. Within community it's not even considered a premium currency but rather a universal currency.
no matter how much better THE FINALS' monetization actually is, people look at it and can't tell the difference. WTF. The only ethically monetized F2P FPS on the market and all it gets in this video is a picture of the currency exchange, never mind the massive innovations it brings to the genre. People ARE in the finals for the gameplay, not the cherry on top cosmetics.
30 minutes well spent! Thanks for this BANGER of a video my dude. Banana slots is craaaaaaazy! Thanks for never recommending me that game 🫡 Information and entertaining. 10/10 would watch again
Great video! I would have mentioned also that bots can inflate numbers a lot. Games that are bounded to some kind of earning are naturally flooded with bots, skin and hats were/are/will be farmed with bots alongside human players. I can't believe that many people are clicking bananas, a big chunk must be bots.
What really needs to be analyzed is the Roblox top player chart. It’s wild. The top one has like a million, the second top will have like half of that and by the time you get to number 6 it struggles to get over 100k. It’s very similar to steams actually but the drop off is more dramatic. Also the actually fun games like phantom forces get beat out by slop games
Great video, crazy how little views it has at the moment Also, those clicker games are botted to hell and back, no real players whatsoever. I feel like they should be banned from this list, or the site as a whole.
CS2 is nothing like a typical titan game though. It had a big cult following for many years even before the Arms Deal update for CS:GO, especially in Europe, Asia, and South America. The only component of a titan that it has are microtransactions for case keys.
i used to be a chill guy then i started playing apex legends and after a year or two of seriously playing to rank up i was more angry and ragefull until a few months ago when i decided this isnt worth my time and stopped playing completely. now im a lot calmer and dont care about many stuff that arent worth caring about. these games actually do make you more violent
Yeah, I don’t even like CS, but you’re wrong on it not being a classic. That game had millions of players worldwide before skins and all the predatory gambling bs. It was just way less popular in the US, because you people spent the 00s playing Halo & CoD on consoles, meanwhile almost everywhere else gamed mostly on PCs and CS was about as popular as football (not the handegg type) across the ocean.
Counter Strike was a huge game before skins arrived and buying or unlocking skins is verrrrry rare. I dont believe the skins are nearly as influential in the the success of CS2 as the ESports scene of the game.
@@iAmLufa I think the focus on only dopamine and no quality goes for a lot of other different media too by the way! Glad someone is speaking about this.
Sometimes not listening to your playerbase and serving them gruel as their only slop to eat up in the form of overpriced low chance microtransactions is the best way forward, we live in a weird world where the general public punishes one another while a select few gets to run away with the cash.
i agree with most of the things you say in this video, however for the titan games like cs2, fortnite, and others, i would say battle passes and microtransactions are not the reason people play the games, me and my friends have tons of hours in both cs2 and fortnite but rarely wasted money in the game for cosmetics, we play them for the gameplay and mechanics of the game, and because of the big competitive community surrounding those games, maybe the more casual players play the game for that reason? Your correct about new seasons / maps in the games tho, the new content makes it so that people stick to playing the game therefore making it more adictive.
Man it’s sad how corporate the gaming industry has gotten. I still remember when games being released by Nintendo were changing the industry. Now don’t get me wrong there are still plenty of benefits to modern gaming, indie games get a lot more attention than they did in the past, I mean to be frank with you in the 2010s the only mainstream indie games were Cave Story, The Binding of Isaac, the SteamWorld series, Papers Please, The Stanley Parable and Super Meat Boy. Now this may seem like a rather large amount but you gotta remember, it’s still less than 10 games whereas in the modern does at least 50 indie games could easily be considered mainstream.
I finally decided to stop playing any game with scummy practices and just see what interesting games i can find and i have found gaming to be much more fun, not having to worry about dailies and constant grind makes games way less stressful and actually completing games is very fulfilling.
i think that games like call of duty r6 and cs2 without the cosmetic and battle pass stuff would still be booming in player base, and praising games for not advertising is a horrible take
No problem with advertising! I should’ve elaborated but I mean more when a game heavily relies on them because their gameplay is subpar. Think those crazy mobile game ads.
Yeah but you got to think this list would probably be a lot different if it utilized other places where games are sold like the Microsoft or PlayStation store and put them all together instead of just using steam like for example I feel like counter strike would be way lower because the company that owns steam also developed counter strike it’s like a nepo baby if you think about it as well there would probably be way less indie games because pc players are way more into indie games than the wider market is
Destiny 2 would be so good if it was more like Borderlands 2 and the grinding came from perminant content that you could come back to at any time, and the only seasonal content was stuff that was repeated every year on holidays. And also if it didn't have forced cross-input aim assist you cant toggle thats ramped up to the maximum, and really bad PVP thats just tacked on and overly competetive.
I feel like, r6 is better than other games as the battle pass is 90 days instead of 30 like most games, I find myself shuffling to play brawl stars though I don’t want to just to get the legendary star drop at the end of the pass. I feel like I will be missing out on progression in the game if I don’t finish the pass.
You should mention cosmetics bloat a game, COD could be 50gb but by the end of the of it would be close to 200 gb with all the cosmetics 50% of shit that person wont use or interact with but forced to put up with. There are 24 weapons and Each one gets a 1-3gb butt farting animated skin let alone 30 player model each 5 1-3gb skins and assets. Harmless my ass when it takes up so much space.
Bro for I feel like every big multiplayer game isn’t fun anymore every one of them care about the pro scene too much and don’t think of casuals it’s so annoying o and in Fortnite by the time you built one wall the other person built a castle tell me that happening to you is fun what I call fun these days are games like marvel rivals and yes I know I know it’s a big multiplayer game but it doesn’t rely on its pro scene helldivers 2 and lethal company
This video needs a lot more attention, like I didn't even realize how little views it had until I went to like it.
No Helldivers 2 mention? Im shattered. He was waiting so politely there, on his little number 8 spot, and you just ignored him. Jokes aside, a wonderful analysis of modern gaming.
@@ulpurt7612 report him to a local democracy officer
Tf2 is a mix of a Titan and a classic, I haven’t spent a dime on a game but I still play it for fun.
TF2 was a Classic before the the release of the Sniper Vs Spy, Mann-Conomy and Uber updates of 2009, 2010 and 2011
After the release of thoses updates it became a Titan
Tf2 player numbers are overinflated you can make money by afking in the menu
@liliataneva5874 True I hear that TF2 actual player numbers sits around the 15000 players which would put TF2 between 90th-94th place on SteamDB which is a massive drop from the current 15th place that TF2 sits at right now because of combine number Idle Bots, Trade Bots, Casual Bots and Real Players
@liliataneva5874 game changed alot guy you can't anymore
@luk4323 You can still make Money in TF2 by Afking inside of private vac servers
That is why there is only around 15000 real players while the others 60000 are all either Idle Bots, Trade Bots or Casual Bots with the biggest out of thoses 3 being the Idle Bots
algorithm gonna pick this up
I sure hope so
@@qwertyqwertperson was in my algorithm 😂
@@kylehill9653 same 😂
@@qwertyqwertperson algorithm did indeed pick this up
yup
"Banana" sounds like a parody of the game industry. I literally went and checked Steam, and seeing it in the top 10 was downright surreal.
thank you lufa for giving me content during my fever
@@clocks08 Feel better! W profile picture
tf2 shows that battle passes arent required with cosmetics. Also, great vidoe, I didnt realize but i only play fortnite when i need to grind quests
@Froggermelon Tf2 foreveer
tf2 did monetization before battle passes were a thing and the contract system is pretty much a battle pass
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 True but I personally don't feel the same about contracts and Battle passes. Battle passes feel more 'grindy' and 'important'. With contracts you don't feel obligated to do them
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 true. I will admit they are similar but they also arent limited time so you are never "forced" to do them.
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 thing is you can take your time with it, it isn't like a 9/5 job like a battlepass it's more of something you can do on your free time
The game in the top100 that I play most is Geometry Dash. I have hundreds of replays of it on my channel and I just can't stop playing it. When I watched your video I tried to fit it into the categories you listed, and found it difficult to place it. The thing about GD is that the official game itself doesn't really have much content. At its core it is just a random mobile game from the early 2010s that got popular randomly. It is developed by one guy called Robert and doesn't have in-game-purchases. It only costs like 4$ and Robert took 7 years to release the recent update. So how is it in the top100 then? Well I think it isn't for the same reasons another "Classic" like Stardew is up there. The gameplay is similar to little rage games like the Impossible Game and is really really challenging. What really drives its playercount is the community, how else could it have gone 7 years without an update? The level editor in this game is probably the most open for creativity, unlike others, which has led the community to create over 30k dev-approved levels. Basically, infinite content. If I were to make a category for it, i'd call it "community-driven"
Funny thing, during the update drought the player count only grew and didn't decline
I’d consider it a classic
i mean people play it because it's fun the fact that the content is user-made doesn't change that
Yeah I think we need another category for UGC (user generated content games) where most of the content is provided by user generated stuff. Think Fortnite (creative) Roblox, vr chat, raven field, basically any paradox game with a popular modding scene, tabs, tf2, and more. They can all go into some category (mainly titans and classics) but the games mainly thrive off ugc from either modding, or through a creation area made by the dev.
We need more games that make us think and actually stay intelligent sentient people.
Also I saw this game in my recommended and knew it was something I wanted to watch, why is the algorithm acting up?
You should do the most popular games on consoles too. Xbox has some interesting ones that show the demographics of the console well, it’s available online for anyone interested.
@@SheaN1026 console is garbage and has no chart like steam does for player count
While I’d take a PC any day, consoles do have their perks. Maybe it’s weird but I love a console’s hub. They can have very good ui
*(nice suggestion for a follow up video)*
“Fuck you console sucks you idiot lmao”
More people have console hell i even have one i love the ui as well just the lack of freedom on games you pay a 100 dollars for is crazy
I think we can all agree this channel qualifies as a Classic. Great video.
Thank you :D
My grandfather has the heart of a lion and a lifetime ban at the zoo.
Tbh the finals has been really fun but it is like the only fps game i play
yooooo satisfactory shoutout for good practices and good design?? that's my boy!
I love that game. It’s a bit overwhelming but I think that’s the point. Extremely rewarding to play
such a great video and so well done
(idk if i wrote that right,english ins't my first language)
you did
Thank you it’s nice of you to say that
perfectly encapsulates what went wrong with gaming. Great video!
if you like doom you gotta play ultrakill. it has a much higher skill ceiling.
I though this video had at least 100k views but i was surprised! It definitely deserves that tho, cuz its a great analysis
Also you get a sub too!
Thank you so much! Very nice of you to take the time to say this. I appreciate it!
great video
4:00 I think using plat from Warframe to depict the negative connotation of premium currency is really bad, it's literally the only "premium currency" that's earnable and tradeable. I m not talking about 10 dollar worth for grinding a year like some other but actually 50-100 dollar worth every couple days. Within community it's not even considered a premium currency but rather a universal currency.
Idk I played the game for over 20 hours free to play and have zilch to show for it
@@iAmLufa might take a bit but I have plenty of cosmetics that I bought with platinum, despite never spending money
no matter how much better THE FINALS' monetization actually is, people look at it and can't tell the difference. WTF. The only ethically monetized F2P FPS on the market and all it gets in this video is a picture of the currency exchange, never mind the massive innovations it brings to the genre. People ARE in the finals for the gameplay, not the cherry on top cosmetics.
couldn't have said it better bro
I didn’t even mention the finals lol
@@iAmLufa Finals is so overlooked my guy doesn't even know he put it in the video lmao
@@CubesAndPortals LOL
W game, definetely deserves a mention as a hidden gem
you didn't mention the amount of bots that idle for items that alone makes the player count so much bigger
I got ahead of myself there. Good point
30 minutes well spent! Thanks for this BANGER of a video my dude. Banana slots is craaaaaaazy! Thanks for never recommending me that game 🫡 Information and entertaining. 10/10 would watch again
@@heftyx3 thank you hefty appreciate it!
900 views? Damn. I thought i was watching a video made by a creator with like 2mil subs, Great video my guy!
@shrexd fr, I was surprised when I saw only 1200 views i thought it would be closer to 120k
Great video! I would have mentioned also that bots can inflate numbers a lot. Games that are bounded to some kind of earning are naturally flooded with bots, skin and hats were/are/will be farmed with bots alongside human players. I can't believe that many people are clicking bananas, a big chunk must be bots.
What really needs to be analyzed is the Roblox top player chart. It’s wild. The top one has like a million, the second top will have like half of that and by the time you get to number 6 it struggles to get over 100k. It’s very similar to steams actually but the drop off is more dramatic. Also the actually fun games like phantom forces get beat out by slop games
😮 I expected a million views but only 1000? Crazy underrated
Thank you!!!
Fun fact that MG42 inspect animation was a pretty recent skin
Yeah we also have plenty of other things.
Chinese fantasy sniper that you perform jutsu's on during the inspect
Great video, crazy how little views it has at the moment
Also, those clicker games are botted to hell and back, no real players whatsoever. I feel like they should be banned from this list, or the site as a whole.
Crab game deserves its place at 29th spott
Nah
I loved your video
this boutta go viral btw
RUclips algorithm need to push this video
Stardew also get free updates without paying for dlc or no microtransaction
I should’ve mentioned that
just like terraria, theres very few companys that does free updates, larian studios with baldurs gate 3/divinity original sin 1,2 was one of then.
17:31 thank liberty hell divers 2 is up there in top 8
Great Video
Thank you for leaving this comment I appreciate it
@iAmLufa :3
good vid, you deserve more subs
The algorithm HAS picked this up. Confirmed.
“These titans can be extremely fun!” (Playing siege footage in the backround):
CS2 is nothing like a typical titan game though. It had a big cult following for many years even before the Arms Deal update for CS:GO, especially in Europe, Asia, and South America. The only component of a titan that it has are microtransactions for case keys.
Wow... how don't you have mo- oh nvm
atp tf2 is a giant not a classic.
i used to be a chill guy then i started playing apex legends and after a year or two of seriously playing to rank up i was more angry and ragefull until a few months ago when i decided this isnt worth my time and stopped playing completely. now im a lot calmer and dont care about many stuff that arent worth caring about.
these games actually do make you more violent
Yeah, I don’t even like CS, but you’re wrong on it not being a classic. That game had millions of players worldwide before skins and all the predatory gambling bs. It was just way less popular in the US, because you people spent the 00s playing Halo & CoD on consoles, meanwhile almost everywhere else gamed mostly on PCs and CS was about as popular as football (not the handegg type) across the ocean.
keep up the work
I like halo infinite battlepass system, when i felt like grinding i grinded and when not i just didnt, no time pressure
Counter Strike was a huge game before skins arrived and buying or unlocking skins is verrrrry rare. I dont believe the skins are nearly as influential in the the success of CS2 as the ESports scene of the game.
amazing video
Warthunder not mentioned during micro transaction part is crazy 💀
Underrated
ISAAC STAYS WINNING 🔥🔥🔥🔥 also geometry dash lets go
that ww2 cod skin was cool asf ngl
hell yeah factorio mentioned!
Good video
Ok I will predict HES going to talk about the finals!
Future me: he didn’t 😢
I'm a the binding of Isaac fan, that's why when I start a new run I feel a feeling that is like GOD PLEASE STOP IT PLEASE MAKE IT STOP
W video again Lufa when's the stream bro?
I'd like to put forth, Warframe proves that "The Titan" content can be done right.
LETS GOOOOOO
remeber the first 100 comments
This video was so goodd
Thanks!
@@iAmLufa I think the focus on only dopamine and no quality goes for a lot of other different media too by the way! Glad someone is speaking about this.
@ interesting point!
Sometimes not listening to your playerbase and serving them gruel as their only slop to eat up in the form of overpriced low chance microtransactions is the best way forward, we live in a weird world where the general public punishes one another while a select few gets to run away with the cash.
I don't play cod, but it seems like the over the top skins would give you a disadvantage
i agree with most of the things you say in this video, however for the titan games like cs2, fortnite, and others, i would say battle passes and microtransactions are not the reason people play the games, me and my friends have tons of hours in both cs2 and fortnite but rarely wasted money in the game for cosmetics, we play them for the gameplay and mechanics of the game, and because of the big competitive community surrounding those games, maybe the more casual players play the game for that reason? Your correct about new seasons / maps in the games tho, the new content makes it so that people stick to playing the game therefore making it more adictive.
factorio spotted
Man it’s sad how corporate the gaming industry has gotten.
I still remember when games being released by Nintendo were changing the industry.
Now don’t get me wrong there are still plenty of benefits to modern gaming, indie games get a lot more attention than they did in the past, I mean to be frank with you in the 2010s the only mainstream indie games were Cave Story, The Binding of Isaac, the SteamWorld series, Papers Please, The Stanley Parable and Super Meat Boy. Now this may seem like a rather large amount but you gotta remember, it’s still less than 10 games whereas in the modern does at least 50 indie games could easily be considered mainstream.
Oh yeah also FEZ, Amnesia and Hotline Miami.
Still only 9 games though total so my point does stand
and also some other minor indie games like Undertale, Hollow Knight and Cuphead to name a few those also came out during the 2010s
anybody know the song that plays at 1:32
Rare algorithm drop
10:30 ngl that skin is awesome
I can’t take it seriously
I finally decided to stop playing any game with scummy practices and just see what interesting games i can find and i have found gaming to be much more fun, not having to worry about dailies and constant grind makes games way less stressful and actually completing games is very fulfilling.
Meanwhile warframe just sitting there being one of most fair f2p games
it sucks that mainstream games have replaced new quality content with shit they're just selling to old players and idiots
star wars battlefront 2 honestly deserved better
Down to the last update
yeah unfortunately gamers are prone to becoming gambling addicts, and the some of the big companies love that
algorithm!!!!!!!!!!
I liked this video
ilnever grind rocketpass again
thx
Online gambling with gameplay elements
Stardew gonna turn into a gambling sim in 5 years just watch loo
See y'all in a year 👋
99% of bananas players are just bots
i stopped playing apex when they released a BP
Notice how fortnite isnt on this list
Please put less mid rolls this is absurd
Sorry! I didn’t know the auto ad placer went so hard. Ads have been reduced
@@iAmLufa Ty
Hey man, I really like your videos but you gotta fix your mic whenever you say S’s it’s unbearable
Unfortunately it’s not my mic, it’s an accent
@@iAmLufa what accent is that
@@paniiziima My parents were immigrants from Europe
@@iAmLufa i mean thats a bit broad, im trying to think who pronounces s differently
Hey man, I really like your videos but you have to get a new accent
i think that games like call of duty r6 and cs2 without the cosmetic and battle pass stuff would still be booming in player base, and praising games for not advertising is a horrible take
No problem with advertising! I should’ve elaborated but I mean more when a game heavily relies on them because their gameplay is subpar. Think those crazy mobile game ads.
I'm a mechanical man!
that was some of the worst tboi gameplay ive ever seen, good video
Isaac moment.
Yeah but you got to think this list would probably be a lot different if it utilized other places where games are sold like the Microsoft or PlayStation store and put them all together instead of just using steam like for example I feel like counter strike would be way lower because the company that owns steam also developed counter strike it’s like a nepo baby if you think about it as well there would probably be way less indie games because pc players are way more into indie games than the wider market is
cs2 is pretty good ngl
Unpopular opinion, goated game.
Idk why people trash on it. I love cs2 even though I'm really bad at it
@@NedInYaHead wdym unpopular opinion 💀
i mean games nead a bit of advertismend
but good video
Destiny 2 would be so good if it was more like Borderlands 2 and the grinding came from perminant content that you could come back to at any time, and the only seasonal content was stuff that was repeated every year on holidays. And also if it didn't have forced cross-input aim assist you cant toggle thats ramped up to the maximum, and really bad PVP thats just tacked on and overly competetive.
I feel like, r6 is better than other games as the battle pass is 90 days instead of 30 like most games, I find myself shuffling to play brawl stars though I don’t want to just to get the legendary star drop at the end of the pass. I feel like I will be missing out on progression in the game if I don’t finish the pass.
sadly this video informed me of banana and i downloaded it😢 i apologize that your mission failed
Algorithm picked it up
You should mention cosmetics bloat a game, COD could be 50gb but by the end of the of it would be close to 200 gb with all the cosmetics 50% of shit that person wont use or interact with but forced to put up with. There are 24 weapons and Each one gets a 1-3gb butt farting animated skin let alone 30 player model each 5 1-3gb skins and assets. Harmless my ass when it takes up so much space.
Bro for I feel like every big multiplayer game isn’t fun anymore every one of them care about the pro scene too much and don’t think of casuals it’s so annoying o and in Fortnite by the time you built one wall the other person built a castle tell me that happening to you is fun what I call fun these days are games like marvel rivals and yes I know I know it’s a big multiplayer game but it doesn’t rely on its pro scene helldivers 2 and lethal company
10:13 erm what the sigma
Make a brawl stars video bro I saw that max tier spike you def have a lot to say