The Daily Driver Paradox - Civic Type R Therapy Drive (POV Binaural Audio)
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2023
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years ago, in the mid 00s, i went to a car show and was talking to a guy with an NSX. It had all kinds of scratches and a few dents and the seats were tore a little. I asked him about it all and he said he drove it every single day (weather permitting) with his dog. He'd take it to get small groceries, to the beach, wherever. He said "cars are meant to be driven, that's literally their purpose." and i'll never forget that. Drive your car. Take care of your car, but drive it. It's literally their purpose.
Had this same experience, but this was just last year. I talked to an older gentleman who brought his 2007 Lotus Exige, apparently it was 1 of 1 for his model year. And he drove everyday! In the winter, in the summer, in rain, ice, anything! Cuz that was his daily driver, and he said the exact same quote to me when I was surprised. "Well, I bought this car to drive it, and that's exactly what I'm gonna do until the wheels fall off this thing." I have real respect for those kinds of people.
@@cuzwhynot1898 that's fantastic. Good for him to do what makes him happy. Thanks for sharing!!
True, as my father always told me "A car is like your body, you have to keep it moving".
I DD my supra. 🤷♂️
@@touayaaj84 good for you!! They're meant to be driven 🤘🏽
"You'd have to get a beater for your beater because your beater is too nice" Absolutely killed me 🤣
This is the equivalent of morning cartoon for us adults!
This is actually a perfect description of how I feel whenever I see Tedward drop a therapy drive 😂
way too accurate
I think you should respond to those people who say "Why are you driving this in the winter?" with "Would you rather I daily the E39 M5?" It'd be funny to see their reactions.
I bet most wouldnt know what the E39 era of BMW was. Based on the badge you could be the 4th owner of a BMW and it be a beater, or also could be a clean wicked example
@@NXT_LVL Tom's is like, the nicest E39 M5 that's not a garage queen.
“I can’t believe you’re daily driving your Honda civic! What a monster!”
cant believe that some people are saying that about one of the most reliable cars of all time...
Its a Type R and considered very expensive by a lot of people. However for Tedward, this vehicles price tag is probably chump change and he could perhaps afford 5 more should this one fail for whatever reason. Bottom line, this is America, you can do whatever you'd like to do with your vehicle as long as it doesn't directly hurt anyone else.
@@sp6450 45k isnt even above average for a new car in the USA anymore, which is 49k.
Exactly. “It’s just a civic”
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the thought process of internet trolls telling someone not to daily their HONDA HATCHBACK in the winter just because it's performance oriented...
That does seem odd. Just spray some Fluid Film or similar underneath and put some cavity wax in the sills and it should be just fine -- that goes for all cars.
Also worth noting that a well maintained car will not rust out on you. Power wash under your car weekly during the winter to get the salt off and it will be fine. My Fk8 has seen 4 winters and there is very minimal signs of rust underneath. full send.
I daily my ND2 Miata in Boston and I could not have less regrets. I find it hilarious that people are treating Type Rs like they’re exotics when the whole point of a hot hatch is to be fast but practical.
I'm a firm believer in buying the car you want and enjoying it till the wheels fall off. I don't own a crazy car, just a 2020 Hyundai Sonata Limited. I drive about 100 miles per day for work, and I've had countless people tell me to buy a beater. And while yes, my front end is sandblasted with rock chips at 50k miles, I've enjoyed the crap out of my car. I figure if I'm getting that much seat time, I may as well enjoy it. It's currently JB4 tuned with an intake, BOV, and wheels. Might seem stupid to some, but I love my car and fully intend to keep enjoying it for years to come. I've never really thought to judge someone on how they use their cars.
You are a true car enthusiast. Enjoying your own car without worrying what others say. Well done!
Car enthusiasts: "Owners who drive their cars are legends. Cars don't belong in museums!"
Car enthusiasts 10 years later: "I really wish the owners of these cars treated them better, there aren't many in good condition left."
Tedward, did you recently read (or reread) Doug's "You Can’t Make Your Car ‘Perfect,’ and You Won’t Keep It Forever" article on The Drive? It helped me take out my garage queen more often.
Life is short. Drive it. I daily a 2004 manual Saab 9-5 and it makes me so happy.
Sup Tedward big fan have a good day 👍🏻
Perfect video for me right now hahaha. I was so unbelievably nervous to drive my new Miata in the rain for the first time today and when I got to work there was someone driving their Ferrari f8 in the parking lot. Definitely was a relief to see someone else just enjoying their fun car
This car has been a blast so far. I am 4,400 miles in since Christmas and am road tripping it from Ohio to Florida in a week.
🤯 “Oh no!!!”
cars amazing taking mine from jersey to florida soon im ready :)
“CaNt BeLiEve YoU WoULd PuT tHaT mAnY MiLeS oN iT”
@andrewerenner779 "the car might as well be an octogenarian now" 😆
Too late now, all. 1 road trip later and I am at 7,000 miles.
I’ve seen a few phoenix yellow fk8s in my area it makes me happy to see people actually driving a more rare version of the car.
great talk as always tedward!
these videos are amazing I love the talking videos of advice about ur perspective on these opinions. Amazing content as always always a pleasure to watch these!!
Having just picked up my IS 500 as a "daily" (though I work from home, so it's more of an errand car), I definitely vibe with this. Everyone and their mother is telling me to "get PPF, get ceramic coat, wax your wheels, get all-weather mats" and the list goes on. While I plan to do some of those things, namely PPF, I also want to accept that it is gonna get messy. I plan to keep this thing for years and am under no delusions that it'll look the same at 50,000 miles as it did at 50 miles. Some people buy cars to keep them in the garage and eventually sell them, but I plan to enjoy mine. I like that you enjoy yours, too, even though it is an enviable car.
is the transmission as bad as they say? I really wanted an is500 until i watched a ton of reviews
@@305Nick It is something many people don't like, but I like it. It can be a little rough if you don't drive it the way it wants to be driven. That is, either gently or hard - nothing in between!
100% agree. Any type of of Honda Civic should not be a garage queen unless its built for car shows or something. I've been daily driving my Type R since I own it with the exception of the first year when I was still on my OEM 20s or when snow has been too deep. Love the Type R content keep it coming.
Even if a car is built for car shows then what’s the point in even having a show car in the first place?
Love these videos bud!
this man is of the wisest in the car community. You, sir, have earned my respect.
Facts
you honestly inspired me to get my 23 civic type R, it fit every check on the list i needed as a daily and vacation car, finally been able to put my supra away.
I don't get people not liking daily driving the Honda Type R, its a Honda and a civic so its reliable and its a fun car. Cars are MEANT to be driven, drive the hell out of that Type R Tedward love your videos.
So many good points in one video!!!!
Just do what you love and Just Drive!!
Thinking back on my MKIII turbo Supra days. I’m so happy for the memories of driving the hell out of that beautiful machine.
I daily a 6th gen 2SS 1LE in northern NJ, got the paint fully protected with ppf and ceramic coating so I don't have to worry about it. Wouldn't change a thing, do what you want as long as you can afford it!
The daily driver paradox became more clear to me when I drove my daily driven 1987 Toyota Cressida up to Ontario, and realized how dirty the car was getting the farther up I got. I vow never to drive in New York again in something nice with the reasonless aggression people have. As much as I would love to drive my Cressida across the country seven times a year, I can't fathom losing it, or having to replace everything under it. The car isn't perfect whatsoever, but it's original to the point I don't want to be replacing panels or subframes because of corrosion or one of the texters or other stupid people slamming into my car. I'll hopefully be working towards a GR86 or GR Corolla soon, so I won't have to worry about keeping an old, great condition car which is impossible to find parts for as my daily driver.
love the type r videos keep ‘em coming
There are two types of car owners to me.
Owner 1: Buys a fun car and wants to keep it as an investment. Likes keeping the mileage low and preserving the original condition.
Owner 2: Buys a fun car and wants to daily it. Wants to create as many memories as possible regardless of value loss and it breaking.
What type of car owner are you? I'm feel like I'm going to be owner 2.
Let's get a review of the rusty suburban.
Just do what you want to do. There is no point justifying yourself, just dew it and with a smile.
I went out on the night with my Mazda RX8 years ago and it started snowing as I walked out of the restaurant to the carpark.
I almost made it home, but had to park the car in 'stationary drift mode' and walk the remaining distance home (long haul).
Only you will change your mind :)
As I've grown older, I don't really care for what I drive anymore. As long as I don't feel ashamed in it (leaking, smellying, smoking etc).
Nice and clean and everyone is good!
I'm definitely in the camp of drive the cars you buy as often as it makes sense based your unique circumstances. For some people that is 100 miles per month, and other's it may be 1500 miles per month lol. There are some of us out there that are true driving enthusiasts and view each drive as a mini vacation - each time we take our car out is an experience. I also totally understand that some people are trying to play their cards right with the economics of owning certain cars and wanting to preserve them. Everyone's financial situation is unique so I agree about the disposable income comments. I love these therapy drive videos. It is such a chill format. I would love to make videos like this on my channel. Keep up the awesome content!
Another Type R video, another great day
Dreams are fantastic until you have them and must pay for them.
The Internet? Anger is a strong emotion that keeps people around longer to watch more ads and make more money for whomever. Drive as you can and enjoy it. Tedward, you are living the dream of many a car nerd. I know that it can be a demanding enterprise, but it's your show.
Tedward, if I had a foot that could work a clutch well, I would love a Miata and a 2005 Pontiac GTO. But I am here doing my best and able to vicariously through you.
The pill bottle? Getting old can suck. Let that car keep you young.
I got a 17 type r sence brand new and i drive it every day in the winter also has 76,000 miles so far and still drive amazing
I daily my '13 RS5 in Michigan, it's parked in a garage but I just make sure to wash it regularly. It's my only car.
Life is too short to worry about keeping a car in pristine shape for a future that may never come. Just drive what you have. Maintain it as best you can. But most of all, enjoy it. It's so odd when you see people with these collections of cars that they never drive. What do you do, just sit there and look at it? Polish it up to just gaze at it.....weird.
The body lines on this civic are soooo good
This has been driving me nuts for ages now. Isn't the entire point of the performance compact (hot hatches + WRX/Elantra N) segment to have fun, well performing DAILY DRIVERS? To those who want to garage queen them go for it, but anyone who believes that should be the norm needs a reality check. My Elantra N is my only car. I drive it to work, to the grocery store, in snow storms, and on beautiful summer days on back roads. That's....the entire reason I bought an Elantra N over something less practical like a Miata, Mustang or BRZ. Pro tip kids: KROWN exists! There are steps you can take to protect against rust! Driving a car in winter does NOT need to be a death sentence!
I think the difference is the people who say these types of comments most likely won't own a Pagani or a multi-million dollar Ferrari, so if someone "ruins it" by driving it in the winter, that doesn't affect them, but they might one day own a Civic Type R and seeing you "ruin" a brand new example by driving it in the winter means they won't be able to find a perfect condition car and will have to settle for one with rock chips on it and other imperfections that come with winter.
On another level. It’s the stockers vs the modders. I have a 2017 Type R with 16k miles. But I’m far from stock. My R is a definite garage queen, & always will be.
I think those are guys that's come to terms with the fact that they will never be able to afford an exotic car (normally give less SH%t about things they can't afford), and that the FL5 is probably max they can afford; so when these guys see you drive your car in the winter time with salted road and all, they may get a bit nervous. but I don't think it personal...keep posting! love the content :)
Always the brokies
@bernieman4 Very insightful. I can see how someone gains enjoyment from shining their car to absolute perfection and being very frugal with the miles on it and that is how they experience joy in their life. I dont necessarily understand it because I dont share those values being mainly a driving enthusiast, but I get that people experience the enjoyment of cars and see the world differently based on what they value.
Yes! Spot on. 😊👍🏼
This is so true by human nature, we want to preserve our precious cars but it’s impossible to keep them spotless if you actually drive and enjoy the car. Another thing is the value of old cars, I own a mint 2000 Honda prelude and I could sell it for a big profit but I like the car so much that I don’t want to, but it’s hard to justify keeping the car when it’s a old car worth 15k and I could buy something else for that money. It’s a paradox with no clear answer.
1:46 remember to stay hydrated my friend
I have love for the winter-driven GT3s of the world as well as the 100-mile museum-quality Escorts. There are no wrong answers!
As car people we need to really start coming together and respecting everyone who enjoys their car, which for some is storing them in the winter, and for some is driving it all the time! Thats what being a car person is all about, enjoying the hobby at any pay grade and with any car we enjoy. Tedward knows what he's talking about, people judge too much and I think a lot of us can agree that we've been guilty and judged others ruining a nice car but the reality is that if we don't enjoy them then someone else will! Just maintain it, coat it, treat it as good as possible but enjoy the heck out of it while not ruining it for no reward.
The Honda Civic Type R is just such a smart buy. Performance per dollar 👍
I have an fk8 and I get more excited driving in winter then in summer. For some reason me seeing a sports car being driven in winter intrigues me. The last thing I think about is "ruining" my car. At the end of the day, as long as the engine is solid and the car is running, the rest is just cosmetics.
Watching this after a therapy drive in my 6spd 06 TL
The daily driver concept has always been flawed because it assumes you have a basic car and project/track/specialty car, which most people really don't. Something like a Type R is supposed to walk that line of basic car and true sports car, it wouldn't make sense to buy a base Civic to spare your Type R in the winter
Yes, the internet contradicts itself constantly.
I’d say this is basically a cue to spend less time online, which I’m trying to do myself (not going too well).
Have a good weekend
I’m thankful I live in Tennessee lol. The winter here still sucks but they only salt the roads a handful of times per year.
I had a 09 fa5 civic si for 7 years and i drove that everyday as a daily even thru winter salt too. I plan to get the fl5 one day and i plan to garage queen that instead lol i daily a 06 legacy specb right now, all modded and everything becuz i have 2 other garage queens and rather expose the legacy to the elements. I just cant drive a boring daily with no feel or fun.
I live in a place where we use salt on the roads, the amount of corrosion is a lot less than most people think.
It’s a car. It’s meant to be driven. If you’ve never driven a sports car in the winter on snow tires you are missing out. It’s sublime.
Also, this isn’t the 1960’s. Modern cars driven in the winter don’t rust away to nothing. Most can handle it just fine.
I feel like all cars should be driven, not necessarily beat on and redlined at every stoplight but drive and enjoy the car you have. Cars are made to be maintained and have parts replaced. I feel like a car that has 200,000 miles on it, if really properly cared for, should be in just the same shape as a car with 100 miles on it then again thats just my 2 cents
people be like:
tedward dailying the type r👎👎👎
tedward reviewing luxury and exotic supercars in the dead new england winter✅✅✅
take it from a canadian, you can never fully negate the road salt corroding your car but you can curb it substantially by taking it though a car wash with undercarriage after the roads have been salted, its not so much about trying to keep it clean as it is not letting the crap build up all winter.
Get the underside sprayed with a very light oil and stop worrying. In Canada we have a product called "Krown" which is a very light self creeping oil that if done annually they will offer a warranty.
I do have a beater and plan to keep my future type R in the garage for winter because Quebec winter... you can't imagine how harsh it is on cars here. Just want to keep my summer car mint.
I really enjoy your therapy drive. Who cares what others say ?
I have a 1978 Datsun 280z and a 2022 Stinger GT2. Both cars are practically my daily driver, I just wake up and decide which car I feel like driving today. My Stinger I racked 16k miles in just a year! My intention is to keep the stinger till it's at the point that it's not worth fixing and the Z will be passed on to whoever my future kid is lol.
Some people are just silly. It's just a civic in the end and it is your own. So have all the fun you wish
I live in idaho. I see type r's in the winter. Granted our winters probably arent as harsh but still a northern continental weather state.
I live in Florida and the summer tires stay on the WRX year round but interesting video 😅
i felt the same when i bought my '17 6.4 challenger last year, the 1st owner only put 4.5k miles on it for the 5 years he owned it. I put 21k in one year
Cars are meant to be driven 👌
surprised you didn't mention applying fluid film or krown to a vehicle to inhibit rust. as long as the underside is coated in oil, rust won't start. it's gross but it works.
Well if I can managed to find one at MSRP when the time comes, this will be my winter/daily lol. Not driving my Miata in the snow
Guy who parked his old Suburban there: “Hey, what the hell?”
Dude is an influencer and owns multiple 911s, of course a CTR that he got a bro deal on can be a semi-disposable daily. For the rest of us, they're a huge capital cost that we may be able to swing only a few times in an entire lifetime while still remaining financially responsible. Especially at today's markups and interest rates.
If you are going to buy a car, drive the fucking thing. Going more than a week without driving is terrible for the seals and gaskets 🤦🏻♂️. The CTR is below the average price of a new car. And it’s pretty easy to avoid markups, all you have to do is manipulate dealers by acting rich. Beat them at their own game.
My California Porsche never sees the rain and I don’t drive it when it’s a bit windy.
I drive my FL5 on stock summers in Maine at the moment. I know I should probably get a set of winter tires, but I only take it out when it has been a while since snowfall so there's no snow on the roads and the temps are above 32 F. The Michelins can work in those temps, albeit with not their full grip (needs at least 45 F), and as long as I don't drive it below 20 F, according to Michelin and Tire Rack, I shouldn't face the problem of compound cracking as well. As for the salt, I have the car completely rust coated (underbody + fenders, doors, engine bay). For the snowy days, I have my 2002 CR-V to do the heavy lifting. The gist of mentioning all of this is that as long as you know how to avoid damaging your car, drive it! It's a car, especially in this case, a great driving car, so make it worth it (with all the safeguards ofc).
A brand new CTR deserves better than braving I-95 at 7am in January in a snowstorm while Bub from Westbrook in his F-150 who forgot to clean the snow out of his pickup bed sends ice shards flying towards your window. No thanks.
@James Rather like I said, only when there's no snow on the roads, which would mean at least a couple of days after the snow has stopped, and I've not seen any car with snow on it after a couple of days. But yeah, to each their own. I just hate for a car to be a garage queen when the conditions outside are fine.
You are wearing those tires quicker as they aren't meant to work in colder temps and are cracking them.
Different perspective for you @tedward - I have a 23 RS3 which was my daily driver for 5 months. Finally I picked up a new civic hatch to have a daily driver. The civic is a revelation to me - 9 times out of 10, I will pick driving it vs my RS3. Does that mean I don't like my RS3? No, its the absolute reality for my personality that the civic is a better tool to run errands, go through all the traffic and stop lights in my area, not have to care about it, etc etc. The term "daily driver" varies GREATLY of how and where you actually drive. To me, there is very little fun in driving a performance car slow or through the mundane activities that an appliance should carry out. Final point to mention - if something happens to my rs3, I really can't replace it in the short or mid term, as the supply is extremely limited. The civic has actually messed me up to the point that it makes me question what I want in a car, or how a car equates to $. Getting off topic but honda executed the new civic so, so, so, well.
Shouldn't the RS3 drive like any Audi A3 for around town driving though? I'm a little confused about this. It shouldn't be too different to running errands in a Audi A3 1.0 TSI, apart from the width and needing to be careful about low the bodykit is.
I used to drive my nissan gtr during the harsh winters of Quebec until I got my golf r for the winters hihi
nice video
people should be able to drive their car however they want! people can be very hypocritical these days I say I pay for the car I can drive however I want. love these vids keep it up
ay bro, just live in California. no snow, i drive my z3 in the winter, summer tires 2012
Did you do a yearly fluid film spray for anti rust on your Type R?
Instant classic
You need a Onewheel Xr+ In your trunk too. Once you drive to where you go you can check out the whole place. Ladies love them too
Trying to understand why “people” say things on the internet is an impossible task. Enjoy your car the way you want.
this is funny because this strikes home for me right now. i got a 1999 Honda civic hatchback with 115k as a gas saver and a reliable car for me as a 20 year old. I lowered it and threw some nice wheels and tires on but the paint was fading fast and i wanted a more practical vehicle. the civic was at 150k I bought a 2001 Toyota 4runner with 232k. Went on trips and daily drove that but now it has a bumper its lifted and has oversized tires and drank gas. i bought a 2007 Honda fit with 186k but the previous owner put it on lowering springs and blew the shocks so i got a decent pair of coil overs but then it needed wheels. Now i want an Fl5 Type R as a new car i can keep for a long time because im tired of having old cars but i dont want to sell my old cars. I dont need 4 vehicles but i want my 4runner for camping the 1999 Civic is my forever car that i want to restore over my life and the fit is the daily that i care for because i cant have a beater. Im not sure what to do lol I cant drive 3 cars as much as i want let alone 4. Not sure what i want to do about cars but im saving for a fl5 type r to buy next year hopefully. Id like to keep my cars but i dont need 4. Lets see what i do when the time comes.
I have a 2007 Mazda 3 with it's whole life being in Chicago and I have zero rust spots. It's not about salt, it's about crappy metal and poor protection. The most common car brand with an obvious rust is Chevrolet, so it's on them :)
Love my 22 SI, if it had any more power I would get in trouble
You can mod that car for sure, there's tons on after market support. Check out heeltoeauto my boy Marcus will take care of you
Imagine being told how you like to drive your car is ruining it 🤣
Even the truck guys... you lowered a truck thats blasphemy! Yes and if its an 4x4 street style truck, I can have fun with digs (like all the other AWD cars that launch so well) if i wanted a off road truck i wouldn't own a clean example, because off roading to me is going to have scratches and dents from trees, not just going on a dirt road or parking lot (TRXs/Raptors)
just seen your rivian video, saw a few LA videos and thought - could it be?
I plan on getting an 23/24 Si in May of 2024 as a daily driver when I graduate and I'm so excited, but really want it to be clean, I saw your detailing video and is it best that i PPF the whole car and ceramic coat it? Is the paint correction really needed?
I would never want a beater. I want something that is fun to drive at all times, in any situation.
I see cars like I see sneakers: the more you use it, the more likely it will work tomorrow
This car is meant to be driven every single day.
LOL, always keep an bottle of advil in my truck also lol
Brother!
So basically Tedward is just flexing on us FL5 owners who won't subject it to these conditions because we see it as a premium car, while he, with his moneybags, just see's it as a beater for his Porsche
"this guys out here in the zonda" LMFAOOO
Shoes are meant to be worn, cars are meant to be driven. People who can afford things should be able to use it however they please!
Subscribed. You clearly respect the DRIVE. Some people only respect the car.
Have a GT350R and do not drive it in the winter...everyone always asks why not. Honestly just don't want to expose it to elements and I have a 2012 Corolla LE as a daily. Get a lot of judgement on both those fronts as a car guy lol
People don't want you to drive your type R in the winter so when prices come down there will be nice ones they can afford still on the road. But those same people cheer when the exotic one off cars get driven in the winter so one day they can afford one with bad paint and rust lol.
Keep pissing them Ted! You making me happy driving her. She shall not be a garage queen.
Seriously, is there any car reviewer who didn't personally bought a '23 CTR for themselves?