Contrast Paint BUT Cheaper AND Better?!
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2020
- Today we see if we can hack the matrix and create a cheaper, more versatile, and overall BETTER form of Contrast paints! Thank you all for the overwhelming support, it really does push me to improve and continue to put out content!
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Your wet palette is so much cleaner than that petri dish Scott puts his paints on.
You should see mine 😂😂
I was thinking the same thing! Like buy a new dollar store shammy
lol
I am surprised to ready you say that, scott is such an organised guy when it comes to mini painting ;)
Scott's palette gives me anxiety lol
I like my tendies how I like my audio, crispy. And boy did you make it crispy
We demand a 30 minute montage of you mixing paints on your palette.
Don’t think I don’t have that footage! 😂
It is too clean. Keeping my palate clean is IMPOSSIBLE!
@@Ninjon hey, how much of the contrast medium should I be using?
ASMR Jon
@ninjon @goobertownhobbies
the power is in your hands. Your frail and human fingers. Yeah it's a lot of coding.. Get some loves of the world. nothing is sacred.
Great vid, Jon. Glad you sorted the audio, can't wait for future content!
I love the balance between testing new ideas, using known skills and sharing the applications for both that you have in your videos. I now have some new things to try on my mini's and there has been one mini sitting at my desk primed for a couple of weeks, ready for me to put paint on it. I will try this. Thanks for the inspiration!
What a nice compliment, it means a lot thank you! Lots of room for improvement, but I'm eager to share what I screw up along the way :D
I'm a beginner painter and have seen you on a few different channels. You're entertaining AND informative. So... more videos please! I enjoy your work! Keep it up.
I still use old fashioned base coat - ink - dry brush for most of my armies. I’d only use contrast if I was considering painting up something like 100 skeletons or Tyranids. Good call on using the contrast technical pot to create your own contrast colours - it’s so obvious but I never thought of it!
"You can't screw it up all in one go"
Me: Hold my beer
Somebody has been following "The Wappel" and started praising "The One True Brush". Nice job in this video, it is indeed so liberating to mix up paints and be free of colours names. work with that line is so good too.
Jon's out here revealing conspiracies at GW with those top heavy pots
Direct quote from a text i got from my friend..
"have you watched ninjons new video?..literally a gamechanger and the most useful painting video ive watched in a while. he has sausage fingers"
high praise indeed.
"Dropper bottle"
That one line was enough to get a like from me.
Subbed. Blew my mind when they released an airbrush line of paints in POTS. WHAT.
I genuinely laughed out loud at that one!!
@@edwardstorbicki6685 But the Air is now in 24ml pots!!!!
They wasted a great opportunity to release a new bottle...
@@ArynCrinn 100%! I don't want to pay premium prices, and then have to also transfer the paint into a useable bottle, and add my own mixing balls.
I would say you are onto something there.
Love what you have to say at 7:18 about not putting barriers in front of your fun, and also just giving it a shot again when you feel uninspired. Great advice.
I really like how you're mixing painting tips and tutorial stuff with the main topic
The outakes at the end were primo content ;)
Really is the most fun part to make too :)
I could easily see myself watching a full 30 minute video of Jon outakes or just him being silly. Cool dude.
@@Ninjon did you try the ink?
One of the things I find interesting is the miniature's imperfection seemingly disappearing as you painted, specifically on the face. Like, sure, I can still see that line, but I noticed that I wasn't SEEING it (if that makes sense) unless I told myself to. It's something I constantly find myself getting hung up on with my own imperfect minis, so it's nice to see stuff like that in others and see how they deal with it.
Completely agree. I still see it, but its a lot less prevalent. And i think others see it even less, since they didn't spend so long painting it.
Fascinating how some white dots here and there can improve the look of a model. At first, for me at least, it looks like a mistake, but in the end it works out. Thanks for that. I will try that.
Okay, that is really cool. And I 150% agree that GW paints should come it drop bottles, but I would be a good start if the bottles/pots were airtight again.
Already bought a bunch of stuff from Monument, but learning about the coupon and how it helps you, went back and got some more stuff! Keep it up man, you're killing it.
The first video I watched ever on Miniac's channel was the one with you comparing the different beginner paint sets which really helped me a lot! So I'm happy to see you've made you're own channel dude!
Very good sir. Solid work and nice knowing a way to save myself a lot of hassle. I am just starting my paint collection.
So first off, those transparent paints are sold out on the monument website, so good job.
Also, I've never watched any of your videos, just Scott.s, but I've watched the both of you multiple times and also watched the podcast you guys do. and I'll say your videos are great.Great video Quality, great Audio, and hilarious out takes. I'm definitely a new subscriber and a bell notification.
Suck Cut, or dare I say Slap Chop, is far more accessible for anyone who doesn’t own contrast paint thanks to this video. Now I’ll just get one pot of contrast medium, toss in some ink, and maybe water and I’m in business. Thanks, John! I appreciate your work!
Nice job, really love the WoW look of this mini. Contrast paints are great for some things not for others, when you make your own product you can always adjust it how you like it to get it to behave how you want it to. Dropper bottles!
Doesnt everything go into dropper bottles?😊
@@dovahkiinsadventures7632 should be in dropper bottles in the first place, not a design that seems custom made to dry out 🙄
The ProAcryl line of paints are amazing. I find myself using them more then any other paint.
That Liqitex ink + contrast medium looks way to smooth.
No puddles, no nothing. I am really tempted to try it out.
Thanks for the tests!
My contrast hack... ink + matte medium + flow-improver concentrate (e.g. Liquitex brand). Works amazingly well, cheaper and I think easier to control. Roughly equal parts ink and medium and then you can just threaten the mix with the flow-improver (i.e. tiny drop is plenty).
I have done this for years I have called it controlled wash, huh I just read ral parthas paint guide and it was there name for it. Took a long time for me to learn my level and you still taught me things. Thanks kid.
at 5:27 - 5:33 if you look at the orcs face you can see a layer shift in the print (probably from lack of support or something else) the contrast paint shows it and makes it very obvious. Amazing paint job though better then anything I could do. :)
Yup it was a pretty shitty print purchased off of Etsy. I was curious how much the paint would hide/accentuate it, but was not happy to have received this from a 3D printing “store”
I love mounument hobbies line of paints , they are actually really cool ,I use transparent paints over my acrylic paint then add acrylic paint , then transparent paint to make the contrast , look great !
Jon: Say is this just the contrast medium that makes contrast paint work how it does?
GW: Yes
Jon: *laughs menacingly* FOOLS
But since the Medium costs as much as any of the other contrast paints, and since ultimately you will use the same amount to make a given color as you would from a pot of that color, how are you really saving money? Maybe if you don't paint much, or do a variety of different models... but if you're doing even a small army, you're going to go through an entire pot (or more) of any given color anyhow.
@@HeadHunterSix now we need some mad scientist to figure out what's in Contrast Medium ...
@@ernieme101 flow aid, a little slow dry and matte medium.
The real trick behind contrast is the amount and quality of the pigment imo.
@@HeadHunterSix well Contrast paint and Contrast Medium is same price but the paint is 18ml and Medium is 24ml.
Since you mix it with the cheaper paint - meaning NOT using 18ml Medium for an 18ml Contrast pot - it will be even cheaper yet.
@@HeadHunterSix Yeah, like Tommy said... the medium is cheaper per ml than the regular Contrast pots, and just about every other regular paint/ink is also cheaper per ml. So all up, you will save money.
I'm real curious to see how Scale75's upcoming Instant Colors Dispel Magic medium works out. If it's close enough to Contrast Medium... then I'll just use it instead.
Inks and clear varnish plus a bit of water was what I used to do. Black mix on white primer coat. Then used ink mixes for each colour. That was 30 years ago. Used to trade painted minis for more unpainted ones.
Great job. I would be really keen to see a video on your specular highlighting techniques. It's something that really elevated that piece an absurd amount.
Just switched ALL my paints to Pro Acryl. Can’t wait to get to paint with it.
LOL at the convo with the GW rep.
"You know you make all those little bottles of nuln oil top heavy to we spill them and have to buy more"
I am getting back into painting, thanks for the tip.
Thinning pale colours about 3pt medium to 1pt paint makes a great pale flesh for slaanesh, zombies etc. 1 to 1 will give a nice one stop wash for furs. Lovin' the work.
It was a gw staffer that showed me this.
Right from the start: THANKS NIJON! I found this video just recently, and I just can't describe how liberating it was for me! It finally made me realize how much I fucking hate painting things and going through all that shit with painting a piece of plastic! See...After watching this video I finally realized that I'm just an average joe that simply wants to push some little plastic soldiers on the table from time to time, and that's it... and to do just that I most certainly don't need all those fcuking contrast, speedpaints all all the other shit ! Thanks man for liberating me!!!!!
Hey Jon, Since you have a 3d printer, I suggest printing one of thos citadel paint bottle holders. Any of them will do but they are perfect for stabilizing the wash bottles.
Tipped over a bottle of that stuff, ruined my clothes, my custom mousepad, my girlfriend left me and my Kids disowned me.
OUTSTANDING - this is the definition of a how to paint video. thanks Jon for showing us this and painting a model all the way through, its really interesting.
That point you get to when nothing on the model is left that excites you, that's always where I fuck up by rushing through the boring parts.
Top notch and wonderful content! I love the out takes at the end too. Entirely creative, entertaining, and packed full of information. You are honestly one of my favorite painters on youtube. Thank you for the work that you do.
Dude I'm so glad I found your channel. I've seen the episodes of Miniac you're in and I'm like, "I like the cut of this guy's jib."
Thanks for the excellent video :D
Watching your videos is always so therapeutic.
I am painting this mini and 4 others like him for my rekindled love of Mordheim. It is also my 1st time using washes. Watching you move all over as you painted is sooo similar to how I paint. This video gave me the oomph to take the next step.
You got this!
i find myself buying more crap for the hobby when i watch your videos than any other. a compliment, in a way.
“‘You can’t screw it all up all at once”
Challenge accepted.
I've been having quite a bit of success just with inks but this is a cool take.
great video and great result. I dont paint minis, I paint latex masks, just looking to improve my work. nice work on this.
I’m pretty new miniature painter with limited amount of paint colors so ive been just kinda making my own colors and it’s been a lot of fun. I feel more accomplished that I made my own “color” I might actually buy these transparent monument paints and delve deeper into my inner bob ross 🤣
You, sir, have just earned yourself a subscriber.
I like Contrast because I am a lazy painter that just wants to get start to finish a 2000 point army in like 2 weeks or less. But it's nice to see it can be used by the better painters out there to make cool effects
I'm glad you've started making videos, you've got the knack for it.
Really. The yellowish tint on the skin made me really happy 😍
Before releasing shades and contrast, GW painting guides would occasionally recommend adding pva to paint to make washes.
They no longer recommend pva...
After my back issues over the last 3 weeks I finally picked up a paintbrush tonight to paint my Rex model. Aside from some grainy texture due to poor priming technique I did what you mentioned. Just hopped from one point of interest to another and knocked him out in an evening
Well done!!! Hope the back is feeling better.
@@Ninjon so far so good. I'm looking forward to playing through your back catalog while painting the rest of my clone army.
great help! As Always thank you for all you do for our Hobby.
I'd been eyeing the transparent paints for a while now, so this was just the kick in the pants I needed to order them. Thanks for the discount, Jon, and enjoy that kick-back! :D
No, thank you!
Haha, that last bit of the vid is hella funny!! 🤭😂🤣
Picked up some of these transparent paints recently and planning on trying this tonight! Thank you for the idea and video.
Great video. I should probably start investing in inks. Also, shout out to the Pa-chow!
How did I miss this until now!! Just ordered the transparent pack and some metal medium using your discount. Thanks Jon
Wow! What you were able to achieve with the contrast medium and transparent paints was amazing, especially the non-metallic metals!
Contrast medium sits alongside glaze medium and flow improver on my desk. It's really useful.
80-90's miniature painter here, just getting back into the hobby. I have a question that may seem noobish, but what is the difference between "contrast" paints...and inks? As far as I can tell this is exactly what we called inking back in the day? And we didn't break the bank to do it? The biggest difference being we'd undercoat a layer of paint on primer BEFORE inking, and then save a lighter or white dry brush for last. The results are pretty similar though. (I haven't played with the new contrast paints yet so I really would like to know the difference)
Glad you got the kinks worked out. This video was excellent.
I’ve been having a think, and I wonder if this same effect could be replicated with regular paints using some glazing medium. Gotta test it...just need a mini to play with.
I was trying out my first bottle of contrast the other night. My first citadel/non-dropper bottle this millenia too. Well, I got to enjoy the top heavy pot meme first hand. And so did my chair. And rug. And wallet. It's going straight into a dropper bottle this time.
Nooooooooooo :(
@@Ninjon what makes it worse is the orange I made out of contrast medium and ink is better than the poop-brown "orange". Luckily, I'm a garbage painter anyway.
I like experiments. I like answers at the front of videos. I like this video.
Love the Pa-Chow T-Shirt! Uncle Adam is awesome...and so are you :-) ♥️
Dropper bottles...oh snap! Great video!
YESSSS THESE PAINTS ARE SO GOOD!
Nice work. Contrast medium is great stuff.
This was a really great video! I do have a question though, what's the difference between inks, washes, and contrast paint? They all seem to have high flow and high pigment. I'm not entirely sure what the difference is and how they are each supposed to be used.
It is worth a thumbs-up for the dropper bottle thing alone TBH, let alone the other stuff.
Any ideas and tools I can use to make my painting less bad has to be a good thing, so, yeah.
Also: Johnson Klear + inks. Similar kinda thing. Like Nuln Oil but not quite.
Been watching Miniac for a few years now, and love your guy's podcast. It's super fun to see you succeed at starting your own youtube channel after all the work. Great vid, excited to see more!
Awesome! Thank you!
I've been painting 12mm American Civil War soldier with the contrast technique...so far so good...
Thanks john this was a great help.
Oooooo dat crispy audio. And all for a sweet contrast burn. Ten thumbs up.
Hi Ninjon! First of all, great videos so far. I'm looking forward to seeing more from you. I got one question though: about how much contrast medium did you mix into your paints, e.g. for the green skin tone? A ratio would be helpful, like 2 parts paint, 1 part water, 1 part contrast medium, or so...
I typically do 1-1 or 1 part paint to 2 parts medium 👍
I love his hair!!! Awesome!!!
The sculpt and the paint is excellent
Yup I "know what to do". I am loving the vids. I wasn't familiar with line of paints you were employing (I do know what contrast paints are...so the other ones) so I will have to check them out. Thanks again! It's nice to hear a friendly voice shouting in void.
Very nice video Jon! thanks. Well done. treat yourself to some tendies.
I DO BELIEVE I WILL
Wow @6:50 onwards, that is the best-filmed painting sequence I've ever seen. Outstanding camera work ! (and painting was pretty good too ;)
Old video I know and I still need to mess around with them but had a crazy thought for a greenskin why not basecoat in a yellow or yellowish green then use a green transparent paint, might try that out at somepoint
Some 400 grit sandpaper would make you a hand model. 😊 Keep up the good work Jon!
As a fellow nail biter, I call them natural sprues.
Phenomenal video! Now I need (errr, want) the Pro Acryl transparents...must...find...Canadian source! :)
Bought some of that transparent paint. Thanks for the coupon code!
Worth it for the outakes alone!
The world needs more conversations with you and Nigel!
🤔😂
hells yeah man! I'm all about mixing my own colors, thanks for spotlighting this product!
Vallejo also has a transparant line. Wonder if that would work as well?
really glad you're making videos! I really enjoyed the video you did for Scott about paint starter sets, helped get me into the hobby when I was starting :)
So far your videos and podcast have proven useful, excited for next video.
The medium in the medium contrast paint is not the same as what you can find in contrast paint. You can see there are several element in the contrast paint that separate while time pass. And sure there is several pigment type in one contrast paint one lighter and one darker, like grey and white of apothecary withe.
I love the Pro Acryl transparent colors and look forward to trying this!
Awesome video!
I would LOVE to get these, if only they weren't constantly sold out :( I subscribed to the email to let me know when they were back in stock, and within 24 hours they were sold out again! TAKE MY MONEY MONUMENT HOBBIES!!