The ONLY PRIMING Video you'll ever need. Work Smarter! Not Harder!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • How to Prime miniatures so you can get through that huge pile of shame is one of the things that slows us down. But what if there was a whole host of ways to prime so you can actually get things done quickly.
    You don't always have to prime every miniature in black. In fact, I'd actively urge you not to. Try priming in multiple colours, try slapchop, try multi colour rattlecan spraying.
    Stop thinking of priming as a first sticky layer of paint and think of it as you first colour layer instead!
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  • @michaelbrockelhurst4227
    @michaelbrockelhurst4227 Месяц назад +282

    I came for the video on primer and stayed for what proved to be ONE OF THE BEST TUTORIALS ON APPLIED COLOR THEORY I HAVE EVER WATCHED. HOLY COW.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +16

      Now that’s a compliment. Thank you, thank you. You always worry that RUclips buries your video in a pile of dirty laundry. But it seems it did it’s job this time! 😜

    • @paulhargreaves1497
      @paulhargreaves1497 Месяц назад +7

      @@thestateofplay2023 I think we need a part 2 to the inks mixing.........just saying.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      What would be in part 2 do you think!

    • @paulhargreaves1497
      @paulhargreaves1497 Месяц назад +4

      @@thestateofplay2023 Well......a Dropbox location for the chart 😎. Also, I'd love to know how to mix inks from a CMYK I get from an online colour (say FS as I model aircraft). They omit the white because it's assumed you'll be printing on white. Really appreciate the effort you put into your videos!

    • @Kakashi-ip8mg
      @Kakashi-ip8mg Месяц назад +1

      No doubt

  • @alphagrendel
    @alphagrendel 25 дней назад +37

    Love this. I'm not painting for a Golden Demon. I'm painting to have fun. The hobby needs more of this.

  • @shawnald
    @shawnald Месяц назад +55

    I've seen a couple of these "color zenithal" vids (including Jon's) but the "how" wasn't explained well. This finally broke through my brain fog. Your on-screen graphics were absolute gold.
    Your explanation was terrific. Your insights into why we do illogical steps was spot-on. It hurt, but I needed to hear it.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +5

      Haha! Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of this hobby is doing stuff because we’ve always done stuff. It’s only when you step back and go “hang on a minute” that you can dump all the stuff that just wastes time. 👍🏼

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett9232 Месяц назад +26

    I used to paint figures some 25 years ago, and we always primed white. I remember when people first started recommending priming black, and when colored primers started becoming available. I personally only prime black if im painting predominantly metal or black, otherwise I will prime white or my base color.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +7

      And you make perfect sense with that approach. 👍🏼

  • @ajemma78
    @ajemma78 Месяц назад +14

    Sometimes the internet is a fabulous place. I just got my studio cleaned up, my airbrush cleaned out ready to go, and a whole tray of clan rats that need to be primed and painted...what amazing timing.
    Your original airbrushing video convinced me to get one in the first place (Ultra 2024 again thanks to you.)
    Thank you so much.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Oh man, that Skaventide box just arrived on my doorstep too. Just when I’d already build and primed what I thought - was everything. 🤣

  • @virrcraft
    @virrcraft Месяц назад +73

    oh, and maybe timelines for someone, who might be interested...
    00:00 - Intro
    00:44 - Welcom to the State Of Play -> About this video
    01:34 - The end.
    ok, joke ;)
    03:19 - Rattlecan Single Colour
    06:26 - Rattlecan For Contrasts
    07:40 - Rattlecan B&W Zenithal
    10:00 - Rattlecan Multi Colour
    11:45 - Airbrush B&W Zenithal
    13:34 - Airbrush Multi Colour
    18:37 - Airbrush Multi Colour V2
    19:48 - Slapchop Greyscale
    21:03 - Slapchop Multi Colour
    21:56 - Combine Methods White Drybrush
    22:43 - Zenithal Plus Contrast Tinting
    23:58 - Main tip from this video and final important things
    (if I haven't missed anything)

  • @Kakashi-ip8mg
    @Kakashi-ip8mg Месяц назад +13

    I thought I was getting a simple video on what I thought I was knowledgeable in, and I got schooled by a genius. Sub earned

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +2

      I try not to make simple videos. 🤣 wish I did as they’d take less time to make!

    • @Kakashi-ip8mg
      @Kakashi-ip8mg Месяц назад +2

      @@thestateofplay2023 as a lazy student I totally understand, but as a d level painter trying to improve I really appreciate the work.

  • @codyott1982
    @codyott1982 21 день назад +5

    Im a blood angels player, and I use contrast/speed paints.
    I suggest doing brown for your base, either tan or light brown for your middle layer, and off white with your drybrush. Or you can do brown base, red, bright orange drybrush.
    Then do your contrast paint over that.
    It makes your reds look better.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  20 дней назад +2

      Sounds like a good plan!

    • @codyott1982
      @codyott1982 12 дней назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 if done right, your shadows will be a maroon color (light red looks when its in shadows) and your highlights will be bright red light the sun is hitting them, and everything in-between will be the proper shade of red for how much light is hitting it.
      Tons better than black and varying shades of grey going to white. I did some like that and they looked ok..... But not right.

  • @ElRammo
    @ElRammo Месяц назад +12

    The quality of your videos is insane. Pivoted from RUclips on the console to my phone just to make sure you get the love you deserve.
    I follow a lot of other channels intermittently and your commentary making some of the colour theory feel relevant and accessible is just quality. You seem like an absolute pro!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks mate. I guess when you enjoy what you do, it helps to show others.

    • @ElRammo
      @ElRammo Месяц назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 I fixed my comment to be clear I was just saying I watch a lot of other channels many will be familiar with, e.g. Goobertown, Dana Howl, Squidmar etc...
      They're great in their own ways, but I personally feel like when it comes to explaining "art" concepts you have your own niche which will benefit a lot of folks.
      Just another comment for the algo, nothing to see here 👀

  • @FranekWrobel-hp7zp
    @FranekWrobel-hp7zp Месяц назад +4

    Binge watching multiple videos a day. Never until now I saved a video to rewatch. You’re a wizard.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Really? Thank you so much. Not even my wife wants to see me that often! 🤣🤣

  • @keggers5483
    @keggers5483 3 дня назад +1

    I initially dismissed the title as clickbait, but it's absolutely accurate. Fantastic advice, thank you!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад

      Thanks. Yeah I try to completely avoid anything clickbait as I hate that myself!

  • @dan_zehner
    @dan_zehner Месяц назад +35

    "Brush on primer is like Star Wars the Acolyte."
    You sir, are the hero this hour needs.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +3

      Ah not according to some comments but hey, I stand by my opinions. 👍🏼

    • @lcmiracle
      @lcmiracle 28 дней назад +3

      @@thestateofplay2023 Who are these shills? Point them to me.

  • @ex0ne
    @ex0ne Месяц назад +36

    Ha, you mentioned The Acolyte, and the video got interrupted with an ad for... The Acolyte!
    Foil hats on, guys! 😅

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +9

      Really?! Well I guess they have to push it as no one is watching. I guess that’s how ads on RUclips work, they match them to the words a RUclipsr says, maybe?

    • @ex0ne
      @ex0ne Месяц назад +5

      @thestateofplay2023 it would not surprise me if that's how it actually works. I haven't seen The Acolyte, and more ads won't get me to see it

    • @kergankerrosson607
      @kergankerrosson607 Месяц назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 Thats Option 1... Option 2 is "The Algorythm says NERDS"

  • @fraserskomorowski2311
    @fraserskomorowski2311 Месяц назад +9

    The various quips were priceless...white lines, lol 🤣

  • @Politov
    @Politov Месяц назад +10

    Helldunkel is my new name for it from now on. Thanks for that 😂

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      I mean I’d advise against but it really is a great word!!!

  • @thehappyogryn
    @thehappyogryn Месяц назад +4

    Since i started using an airbrush for priming there's no turning back . The amount of paint wasted, and dust created buy a rattle can drove me on to try again and lose my fear to use an airbrush...no turnig back now.
    Great video and so many tips.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Yeah I mostly use rattlecans for terrain due to size and speed. But even then, airbrush is still preferable.

  • @virrcraft
    @virrcraft Месяц назад +8

    yay, new video!
    wow, this is so impressive to watch... and at the same time so difficult! my brain started racing 5 times while I was watching it all... and this despite the fact that I already knew a good 60 percent... but don’t get me wrong, it’s not about the presentation, it’s about the material! it’s quite complex (if you’re not in the know), but it’s presented just beautifully!
    color theory haunts me throughout my life, but I try to avoid it... apparently it has won after all. I need to sit down, figure it out and... hang circles with flowers around my work area

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      🤣 I tend to look at colour theory’s as A leads to B. So start with one colour and then work out the next. If I want my model to be say, green, I know I can use contrasting purple for shadows as well as dark green or blue because they sit side by side on the wheel.

  • @jokenarts8312
    @jokenarts8312 Месяц назад +4

    Awesome hidden tip, using a Lego plate for a dry brush test! Very cool!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      I actually have another video with that exact tip! The one about fidget popper pallettes. 👍🏼

  • @wigxu
    @wigxu День назад +1

    I normally decide on the colour of primer based on the tone of colour I want. Example; bright red, prime white, mid red prime grey, dark red prime black. The colour theory in this video is real brainfood though and I love the thought of primer being "the first layer of colour". Great vid.

  • @korvusfilms1
    @korvusfilms1 17 дней назад +1

    As someone just getting into the mini painting hobby, and seeing scores of videos, this is one of the most fantastic tutorials that I've ever seen, a perfect mix of color theory and implementation practices, plus even humor to keep it entertaining. Thank you for making this! Subbed and will check out your other videos.

  • @alexandrebelinge8996
    @alexandrebelinge8996 Месяц назад +3

    I sat on my airbrush for years and started a few days ago and omg what was I waiting for ... So smooth, so easy love it !

  • @davidhills7986
    @davidhills7986 Месяц назад +8

    Quick note for Vallejo airbrush primer. It works way better if you think it with the tamiya x20a thinner. Polyurethane reacts with water.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +3

      This is where I totally slap my brow and why didn’t I think of that!! It’s not like I don’t have the damn ingredients!! Thank you. Now I can use it up.

    • @davidhills7986
      @davidhills7986 Месяц назад +2

      @@thestateofplay2023 it was one of those oh crap moments when I accidentally put the thinner in without thinking as I also use xf2 for white. That stuff is magic. I saw it didn't do anything funny instantly and thought I'll try spray that and wow what a difference. No clogs smooth coverage so now I can use my German panzer grey primer again.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +2

      I tried it once with some citadel and got a weird thick soup. I’ll give it another go.

    • @davidhills7986
      @davidhills7986 Месяц назад +2

      @@thestateofplay2023 Vallejo primer it works perfectly. I've not tried other paints though.

    • @typicalneet
      @typicalneet 12 дней назад

      I know this comments a bit old, but what ratio? 1:1? I’ll have to give it a shot, even if I haven’t had that many issues with Vallejo

  • @anotherbrickinthegrey
    @anotherbrickinthegrey Месяц назад +1

    Aaaand FINALLY a miniature painting video that actually gets into colour theory properly!! Added super-bonus is someone who actually understands that shadows are not black! Loved every second of this video, +1 new subscriber :)

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you. You know I never thought saying “shadows aren’t black” would be so controversial. I mean we all have eyes. We can literally look at them. 🤣🤣 but weirdly very few mini painters seem to reference the real world when painting. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @savage12k
    @savage12k 12 дней назад +1

    I don't paint miniatures. In fact, for the last 25-ish years I've avoided painting anything. Then a few days ago a mask i had bought that was irritating me with its lack of depth and contrast inspired me to break it my old brushes and...ahem... go buy some paint. Searched one drybrush technique, and now my feed is flooded with miniatures. This video caught my eye, and now I'm noticing everything I did wrong on that damn mask... I had completely forgotten over the last 2 decades that "Shadows aren't black."
    You've earned this sub, my good sir.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад

      Thank you mate. I always appreciate it a bit more when someone who isn’t invested in the miniature topic takes time to say something nice. 👍🏼

  • @MrSmashySmash
    @MrSmashySmash Месяц назад +7

    Undercoats are perfectly understandable for faster jobs
    But priming by brush really teaches you to be more financially responsible when you have to prime all of your stuff by hand

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +4

      Now you tell me. Where were you when I spent £300 on rattlecans! 🤣🤣
      It’s mainly a time thing. With two young kids, a job and a YT channel- I don’t have time or patience to prime by hand anymore.

    • @MrSmashySmash
      @MrSmashySmash Месяц назад +1

      @@thestateofplay2023 oh that's entirely understandable, it's kinda funny going through them one by one and realizing that I have plenty of models to paint

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Don’t we all!!

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 Месяц назад +1

      The cost of rattle cans was the reason I bought an Airbrush (H&S Ultra v2) and a Timbertech-like compressor with tank. Bottles of primer are not expensive, certainly compared to the amount you will get from them vs can, and you can do beautiful gradients. I'm no artist never touched an AB before and I had smooth, perfect gradients within the first 30 minutes of opening my airbrush box. (But I had watched SOP review, and lots and lots of videos mainly Vince Venturella).

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      I think Vince is our hobby messiah. 🤣

  • @Primordian-P
    @Primordian-P Месяц назад +16

    This video was relatable, and motivational. After using an airbrush, I'd say that batch painting miniatures without an airbrush feels like painting a wall with a toothbrush.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +3

      Yea, I once cut my lawn with scissors just to prove to my better half that we needed a decent lawnmower. It worked.

  • @Misfit7021
    @Misfit7021 15 дней назад +1

    What a great tutorial on how to jump start my brain into painting.

  • @naib_stilgar
    @naib_stilgar Месяц назад +2

    This is one of the best painting videos on YT right now, grats.

  • @richardlynch77
    @richardlynch77 Месяц назад +5

    Ah. Prime Day. I see what you did there.
    Great video as always!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +2

      I just realised that after I uploaded it as I got the email from Amazon! Not intentional but hey, if it gets a few more views…🤣🤣

    • @ThrehaneMiniatures
      @ThrehaneMiniatures Месяц назад +2

      Top notch observation! I can't believe I missed that!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      I can’t believe I missed that! On Amazon now….hmm, some good deals. And some that are just flat out lies with the same price as before. 😳

    • @richardlynch77
      @richardlynch77 Месяц назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 I had 12 or so things in my basket, most with no change. But two clear acrylic display stands and Anycubic water washable resin both 20% discounted - I got those. Only so I have more minis to print and display coated in a black primer ;)

  • @billcedarheath387
    @billcedarheath387 Месяц назад +13

    This is one of those things that the fine scale modelers do well and that the miniature gaming world could learn from. I was a fine scale modeler long before I got into wargaming and I’ve always considered primer color before painting my little dudes because of that.
    Like the video mentioned, I too always just thought it was a lazy aspect of miniature painters wanting to get armies on the table as fast as they can. I’m now wondering if it is a lack of awareness of such techniques. I often see miniature painters “discover” something like it is some brand new technique that never existed. I’m looking at you SlapChop enjoyers.
    I’d encourage wargamers to explore fine scale modeler channels and even the model railroader channels. You can learn a lot from those folks and even learn techniques that they have been doing for decades. Techniques that should have been a thing long ago in this hobby.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      I, like you, started as a scale modeller back in the 80s so brought much of the concepts over.
      I think miniature painters got used to quick drying acrylics. There’s are a few things I didn’t continue as we scale modellers don’t tend to touch a model after it’s finished so anything that could rub off got dropped.

    • @brionl4741
      @brionl4741 Месяц назад +7

      I've always said that model railroading and mini wargaming are basically the same hobby. You push your little guys around the board and either go "Choo Choo" or "Pew Pew".

  • @LarguijoteF
    @LarguijoteF 8 дней назад +1

    This was the best short video about the subject

  • @Woodard126
    @Woodard126 Месяц назад +1

    This is an absolute masterclass not only in the topic at hand, but how all RUclips videos should be done 👏🏻

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Really?! Thank you. I’m humbled.

    • @Woodard126
      @Woodard126 Месяц назад +1

      @@thestateofplay2023 concise but detailed, excellent humour, top notch production and awesome minis... What's not to love? 😅

  • @thecraftmasque
    @thecraftmasque Месяц назад +7

    when slapchop first started gaining traction i though i would lose my mid shouting at the screen every time "BlAcK is A tErRiBle cHoicE fOr A baSe!" ... glad i dont have to do that anymore.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +3

      I think it’s based on the old masters who used it for oil painting. But what is usually ignored is that they painted completely over it and only used it for a tonal guide.

    • @thecraftmasque
      @thecraftmasque Месяц назад +1

      @@thestateofplay2023 you're probably right. It was a common issue in illustration too. There's a ton of photoshop tutorials out there that start with black and white tonal sketches and almost all of them end up with a muddy-looking final product.

  • @TheHunch8ack
    @TheHunch8ack Месяц назад +7

    Christ, the RUclips algorithm actually came through for once. Instead of throwing me ridiculous videos of Yanks shouting at each other it's everything I needed to know just before I unpack (after buying it four years ago . . . ahem) my airbrush! Cheers!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Not a problem. For the last three weeks I’ve had YT serving me up Ben Shapiro videos. I’ve never once clicked on one.

    • @TheHunch8ack
      @TheHunch8ack Месяц назад +1

      @@thestateofplay2023 I discovered YT Shorts about 6 months ago (or 'Grandad TikTok' as my daughter was quick to name it) and it all started off lovely with loads of history, science and philosophy. Now I've got a stream of snide 'high value' men putting down rooms full of OnlyFans girls, 'cops gone bad' and Japanese girls in big boots all doing the same dance in the street. And when I click on 'want to try something different' it gives me Korean girls doing the same dance. I'm just waiting for Ben Shapiro to join in. Possibly while Charlie Kirk and Bill Maher provide a beat-box vocal track in the manner of that chap off Police Academy. Time to turn off and read a book, I feel. Thanks for this video anyway. Really handy. I'm a total wuss about airbrushes but I've got to just bite the bullet. I've ordered stuff on your advice: wish me luck . . .

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Now I could go a bunch of Korean dancing girl vids! Hmmm, where’s the short feed….😜

    • @TheHunch8ack
      @TheHunch8ack Месяц назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 Maybe the algorithm knows us better than we think. Bayes was right . . .

  • @anthonyugarte1072
    @anthonyugarte1072 14 дней назад +1

    Thank you for your guidance, wisdom, and knowledge.

  • @Prometheus_Williams
    @Prometheus_Williams Месяц назад +2

    Easily the most informative hobby channel ever created.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      I dunno. Bob Ross is pretty good. 🤣

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 Месяц назад +2

      Vince Venturella dies a little inside when you say that but SOP has fantastic colour theory. VV has elements of colour theory (and he goes through colours individually) but SOP is way head for integrated colour theory.

  • @NegativeNezzy
    @NegativeNezzy Месяц назад +50

    I lost it at "a little bit like the acolyte" lmfao.
    My loves are intersecting.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +11

      Gotta get those cultural references in somehow. 🤣🤣

    • @nozero1
      @nozero1 Месяц назад +2

      @@thestateofplay2023 I didn't think it was a good idea, it kind of loses anyone who does like the show.

    • @Fbs...
      @Fbs... Месяц назад +3

      C'mon, really??? If you're so fanboy and insecure not to watch the channel just because Will tells you the truth... you don't belong here (and I mean ON THE INTERNET)!
      They should grow up and open their eyes. Start to see when politics poison a TV show. Learn what makes a decent story and what makes a character interesting! In short, learn to judge a product objectively...🧐

    • @nozero1
      @nozero1 Месяц назад

      @@Fbs... I didn't say that, I said that his point loses fans of the show. That's because if you like the show it doesn't any sense

    • @Fbs...
      @Fbs... Месяц назад +3

      @@nozero1 I'm saying that he shouldn't care! 'Cause if they DON'T UNDERSTAND MOVIES AND TV SHOWS and they're willing to make a fuss over every little thing they disagree with (even JOKES!), then it's better for Will to lose them! Many channels have been ruined by these people with no taste nor culture.

  • @annihilationtextofficialca8941
    @annihilationtextofficialca8941 Месяц назад +3

    Awesome video. Thanks for the different perspective on priming. I am definitely one of those prime black always guys, lol. I have some new ideas now moving forward that might help me slay more gray a lot faster.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      I was the same. I used to get hella frustrated with how many coats I’d need over it though. Then when I was finished I was like “where’s the black gone!!”. 🤣🤣

  • @billdefranza4927
    @billdefranza4927 6 дней назад +1

    This video is excellent on so many levels. Thank you!

  • @ThorekIronbrow
    @ThorekIronbrow Месяц назад +4

    Top notch video. Lacquer toxicity, speckly rattlecan zenithals, black spray being the wrong choice for most colours are all things people need to hear.
    The one thing I'm dying for a good video on is primer durability. Consensus seems to be airbrush primer is far less durable than rattlecan and lacquers so the convenience doesn't feel like a good trade for gaming pieces.
    Are the molotow acrylics special in any way that makes them suitable as priming? The airbrush primers tend to be acrylic-polyurethane mixes (which assume makes them more hard-wearing) rather than just pure acrylic.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +4

      You don’t need primer. Primer is a myth. I’ve got unprimed models from 38 years ago with no varnish that look the same today as they did when I was 10. Most modern acrylic is tough enough to just stay where you put it.
      Molotow are graffiti acrylics. Designed to work on walls outdoors in all weather.

  • @mattyno964
    @mattyno964 Месяц назад +3

    I used to brush prime everything black.
    I also used to hate painting.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Do you like painting now? I assume you changed from black to something else?

  • @Glic2000
    @Glic2000 14 дней назад +1

    Interesting video. Back when I started painting seriously; in 2002ish, white primer was considered the "right way" to do it and black was considered "wrong". Then in recent years, the discourse seemed to have shifted to favour black priming (at least, that's what the best painters seemed to be doing), followed by an incredibly slow process of tediously layering up to the final colours. Which has never appealed to me much, being a bit of a "speed painter" at heart.
    Anyway, it's nice to see videos now discussing ways to get good results, faster, since the way some of the "best" painters work is completely impractical for the majority of us.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  13 дней назад

      I agree. I started doing this in the mid 80s and the methods have chopped and changed over the years.
      Most of the best painters do it almost full-time so yeah, they can probably spend hours putting on a million layers. Some of us want to play a game. 🤣🤣

  • @user-si3ct9yu6g
    @user-si3ct9yu6g 14 дней назад +1

    I finally got my first air brush when I looked at a pile of used rattle cans and realized how much I was spending on rattle cans. I was shocked at how much I was spending on spray paint, when I couldn't even properly mix colours the way one can mix them with the air brush. I don't know why I was intimidated by the air brush and compressor.This video really is about working smarter rather than harder. It took me years to figure it out.

  • @The1Flying
    @The1Flying Месяц назад +3

    Cracking video as always.

  • @jameswilloughby4381
    @jameswilloughby4381 Месяц назад +24

    How this only got 14 likes! Come on guys this guys a top lad

    • @ThorekIronbrow
      @ThorekIronbrow Месяц назад +9

      It's a 26 minute video and it's only been up 25 minutes!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +7

      Haha! Thanks, but give it time. I reckon people might be at work. I know I am. 😜

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +4

      Yeah and after taking 36 days to make this to spray over a 1000 models I didn’t expect any RUclips love from the algorithm. 😜🤣

    • @mn01_
      @mn01_ Месяц назад +2

      @@ThorekIronbrow 😂😂😂

    • @ElRammo
      @ElRammo Месяц назад +1

      I’m not sure why but typing in “state of play” I didn’t even get you in my top results. It’s possible your channel name doesn’t help RUclips/googles string matching due to the terms being so common.
      That said, I do have confidence you will grow exponentially due to the sheer quality of your work.

  • @ecarlate
    @ecarlate 13 дней назад +1

    i just discovered your channel, and thank you for all the advice, going to save me time for my pile of shame.... 40 years of collectionning and no time to paint, i think i have enough until the end of my life lol

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад +1

      You and me both matey!! 👍🏼 I’m determined to get through all of it just so my kids can trash it all when I’m gone. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ecarlate
      @ecarlate День назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 yeah i'm trying to do the same, finished my new work/pain table to start working. lucky me (or not lol), my son is playing too lmao

  • @Hawkeye83627
    @Hawkeye83627 13 дней назад +1

    Just found this as I'm gearing up to paint my Star Wars Legion minis. Subbed!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад +1

      Ooh! That sounds like a lovely project for different Priming!

  • @Liopot68
    @Liopot68 Месяц назад +3

    and we say: "thank you, Marco Frisoni!"

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      We do indeed! Same art background as me I think. Using fine art techniques in mini painting.

  • @Meglin1461
    @Meglin1461 Месяц назад +9

    Please don't use normal rattle can paint. It has WAY more texture than specialised rattle can primer. The pigment isn't nearly as fine. And when you're painting something so small, you don't want large pigments. Obviously there is a place in this hobby for normal rattle can paint. But tiny models aren't it

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      👍🏼

    • @giantninja9173
      @giantninja9173 Месяц назад

      So any model larger than an old scale space marine? A $5 can is still preferable to a $20 can for priming tanks if the difference is only noticeable if held at eye level under beginner level paint jobs

    • @Meglin1461
      @Meglin1461 Месяц назад

      @giantninja9173 anything with small details I wouldn't use a normal rattle can primer on. Clogs them up.

    • @JERRYR708
      @JERRYR708 Месяц назад +1

      Used Army Painter white primer today for 1st time and never going back to regular primer.

    • @marcbowling6451
      @marcbowling6451 Месяц назад

      ​@Meglin1461 out of curiosity have you ever had this issue or are you just repeating internet echo chamber wisdom?

  • @mortendahl4824
    @mortendahl4824 22 дня назад +1

    Amazing! You made this all sensible, so many content creators have failed where you succeeded. So glad I found this. Now, I paint on with renewed vigor :)

  • @zakphillips2287
    @zakphillips2287 15 дней назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video. Your intricately detailed explanations have helped me understand painting concepts I've struggled with for a while. Definitely earned my sub, looking forward to more videos like this!

  • @GingerGiant247
    @GingerGiant247 Месяц назад +1

    State of Play is a new favorite hobby channel now. I love the color theory, and I hadn't considered the orientation of the color wheel for 'movement' of color. This is awesome.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah it’s weird that a simple lock of a colour wheel in place can change colour progression. I “lock” yellow at the top if zenithaling up to white. But often lock a shadow at the bottom. Or a different colour at the top depending on what I’m going for.

  • @JerryH171
    @JerryH171 Месяц назад

    As an intermediate hobbyist I still learn a lot from every one of your videos! Your combination of narration, graphics and real life footage is really fun to watch :)

  • @RonaldFulcrum
    @RonaldFulcrum 4 дня назад +1

    This video was very well presented, and very informative. Thank you.

  • @AtilanoX1
    @AtilanoX1 22 дня назад +1

    I appreciate the pep talk 🦾🦾🦾

  • @andreaarnold5613
    @andreaarnold5613 Месяц назад +1

    First time I've seen your videos. I'll be back!. Very informative, educational and a nice hint of comedy.

  • @S.A.S.H.
    @S.A.S.H. 10 дней назад +2

    "...die of old age." As a 66 year-old gamer with a massive...pile of gray, (and that's not a description of my hair, though it certainly could be)...where was I? Oh yeah. I take the comment personally.
    As always great info delivered with wonderful humor and just a dash of tongue-in-cheek. Thanks....

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  6 дней назад +1

      Glad you get the humour mate. I get so many comments from people who genuinely think I’m serious!

    • @S.A.S.H.
      @S.A.S.H. 6 дней назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 satire is not just a horny guy with goat hooves.

  • @MrSquidshark
    @MrSquidshark Месяц назад +1

    This is a 10/10 video that I'll be coming back to again and again I'm sure.

  • @tr4ck_day
    @tr4ck_day 13 дней назад +1

    Fantastic video. Your channel deserves to grow if you keep making content like this

  • @geoffscammell145
    @geoffscammell145 Месяц назад

    Like so many things I found your video at the perfect time. For the last 6 months I have been building kits, and buying a few different primers, waiting for it to get warmer and me to finish my indoor spray booth.
    Not only did I get the most in-depth lesson on priming. Yet there was so much more about beauty of mixing colours right from the very beginning, before even essentially buying any paint.
    The timing could of not been more perfect, and presented in such a beautiful and insightful way. Thank you so much

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the compliment mate, I’m so glad it’ll help you out

  • @dodgersfnshepard8673
    @dodgersfnshepard8673 4 дня назад +1

    Just my 2 cents added, 2 in 1 automotive primer. 1st time using it last night, may never go back to GW. Filled all gaps and gave a great texture

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад

      You gotta be careful with 2in1 as it can quickly cover over all the details by accident.

  • @michalsqi
    @michalsqi Месяц назад +1

    Hello! I've just found your channel and it is an instant autosub! I've been into the hobby for last 5 years, and never ever YT showed me your content. Now I need to catch up :) Love the way you provide information. Thank you, and ... happy hobbying!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Thank you Michael. Nice to know I have an audience and am not just shouting into the wind. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @benrichard7938
    @benrichard7938 Месяц назад

    Ok this is amazing. I’ve been painting for 30 years and doing it semi competitively for like 20 and I STILL learned so much. I’ve waisted so much time needlessly glazing… great job man!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the compliment mate. From a veteran hobbyist too!

  • @mralloc23
    @mralloc23 Месяц назад +1

    Amazingly informative video!
    Your breakdown on color theory was great. I first started to learn about color theory more recently from Marco Frisoni's YT channel. Using your primer as a way to accentuate and play with your color tones will not only save time, but drastically increase the quality of your paint job. Creating depth and smoothness, but saving you lots of effort.
    Also, anyone considering buying an airbrush, remember, it doesnt have to be an expensive one. There are plenty of airbrush + compressor bundles that are under $150. Especially for priming, you dont need a pinpoint airbrush. It's not even 100% necessary for accomplishing precision work, though it helps.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for that! I think Marco and I come from the same fine art background. Although he is a much better painter and appears to do painting full time.
      And you’re airbrush advice is spot on. 👍🏼🎯

  • @Talking-Monkey
    @Talking-Monkey 21 день назад +1

    The snarky wit one liners won my sub. Well played

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  20 дней назад

      Phew! Some people don’t get it and I get ribbed in the comments. 🤣🤣

  • @Bakroth85
    @Bakroth85 Месяц назад +2

    Another excellent introduction and advanced info video again. Thanks for the tips!

  • @ivoalexander4201
    @ivoalexander4201 Месяц назад +1

    Your asides totally cracked me up! Great point about greyscale slap-chop. I've been discovering the same whilst slpachopping boardgame minis (ie. 'test models'). Subscribed!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Greyscale slapchop has its place but it’s not as many places as some would believe. 😜👍🏼

  • @MarkCMG
    @MarkCMG 18 часов назад +1

    Thanks for the video! Excellent tips!

  • @typicalneet
    @typicalneet 12 дней назад +1

    I know I should start priming my models with a shadow color, but god damn is priming black then putting a base coat with an airbrush is so easy. Great video! I’ll definitely have to use some of these techniques

  • @danielhall5554
    @danielhall5554 Месяц назад +1

    I will have to watch this a few more times. This is excellent work. I'm glad to see people returning to color theory and not just slopping on the paint. I am guilty of running straight to the white over black zenithal and getting very dissappointed.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Yeah I wondered what happened n RUclips. Just seems to be people painting the latest GW boxes thesedays. Like every single creator.

  • @ThrehaneMiniatures
    @ThrehaneMiniatures Месяц назад +1

    I appreciate the breadth of options you covered here! I've used them all, usually driven by my mood at the time, or enthusiasm level. Great video!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Thanks mate. I’ve started using them all too now just to avoid the monotony of doing the same thing over and over. Makes painting fun again.

  • @doctorpc4x4
    @doctorpc4x4 28 дней назад +1

    From primer to colour theory and contrasts. I don't paint these. I paint scale model trucks, BUT I sure as learnt one heck of a lot from this. You are a clever man

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  28 дней назад

      That’s where I started. Not trucks but spaceships. Trucks without wheels. 🤣🤣

  • @dodosh9444
    @dodosh9444 25 дней назад +1

    I am rather new to mini painting but come from an art background. Really boggled my mind why everyone seemed to prime in black. In classical painting you would usually prime with your shadow tones, mostly oranges, browns and purples to have a good contrast and mood already.
    Glad to hear that isn't only me being surprised.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  23 дня назад

      Totally get you. I’m from a fine art and design background and the whole black canvas thing always is me scratching my head. Great for some techniques like chalk or pastel but for bright acrylic paint?!

  • @mooseoperator7288
    @mooseoperator7288 Месяц назад +2

    Love this video and your honesty. Whenever I hear "you can do this with a rattlecan/brush too!" my eyes roll back so hard my optic nerves sever. It will be nice when youtubers stop back peddling and just stand behind the tools they use. Have some backbone and don't be afraid to piss off the small minority of stubborn people that refuse to get an airbrush.

  • @SLDL86
    @SLDL86 Месяц назад +1

    New to the hobby and this video has been super helpful!!

  • @Mekhami
    @Mekhami 13 дней назад +1

    I have an idea for you to try. Do a colored zenithal using oil paints. Prime in white. Get some oils out, thin them down a bit (not to wash consistency). Apply different colors to different parts of the model, in the same composition as you would with an airbrush. Use makeup sponges to remove most of the paint, and q-tips with _very very little_ mineral spirits to remove a bit more from the brightest parts. Let it cure for 24 hours, and you've got a brilliantly, smoothly underpainted model with a lot of control, and vibrant colors where you want them. I think it has merit as an underpainting step for army painting.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  2 дня назад

      I was about to disagree but….this is actually a very very solid idea.

  • @eskhaphey2873
    @eskhaphey2873 Месяц назад +1

    Hi there, you forgot to memtiom that with rattlecans the darker the pigment the thinner the paint therefore gives a thinner coating, and in your shots of using a rattlecan there was no stopping to let any layer dry. Black rattlecan is the best option outside of using an airbrush since it gives a smooth uniform coverage and can easily undercoat 200 models for £10, and at around 40 models in 30 minutes doesnt take long at all.
    All about technique :D

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Yes I’m afraid I disagree with a lot there. The pigment size in rattlecans is all the same. The don’t grind darker pigment finer 🤣 it appears like thinner layers because it covers quicker. But you could stop at the same point with any colour. So the volume of paint in the can will coat the same number of models whether black or white. 👍🏼
      As for waiting for a layer to dry, I was spraying in 30 degrees heat. It was almost drying in the air that day. As you can see by the closeup models in the video - all were fine. 👍🏼

  • @grumhelden
    @grumhelden Месяц назад +1

    You get my sub for telling the truth about The Acolyte, you get my like and continued viewership for the NEXT EFFING LEVEL content. Well done, this was amazing.

  • @jonathankilby6636
    @jonathankilby6636 22 дня назад +1

    Great video. I adore montana sprays, so many colours available and I've done a dirty zenithal using them countless times

  • @RedHeadHurricane
    @RedHeadHurricane Месяц назад +1

    Great video! Love the applied colour theory - too many people are scared of dealing with this. Off to watch some of your other videos (while investigating Molotow paints, didn't realise they were British!) Subbed.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      Molotow are German I believe with headquarters in the Black Forest. And they own their own train car for graffiti.

    • @RedHeadHurricane
      @RedHeadHurricane Месяц назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 ah ok. Makes sense with the name. On the uk website they were listed as Bristol.

  • @mmarchani
    @mmarchani Месяц назад +1

    Worth it for the colored shadows alone! AMAZING work, man!!

  • @MusicMadJohn
    @MusicMadJohn Месяц назад +1

    I appreciate the jab at the Acolyte.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      You aren’t the only one apparently. Seems it’s not a very well received show. Who’d have thought messing with canon would upset people, eh? 🤣🤣

  • @ReclaimerMkII
    @ReclaimerMkII Месяц назад +1

    This is great advice. I can see immense logic in this strategy.

  • @Dracoform
    @Dracoform Месяц назад +1

    I always come back to your videos, because they give such great advice - be it color theory, airbrushing or even that awesome episode about books (like paper thingies...) thank you!

  • @truereaper4572
    @truereaper4572 11 часов назад +1

    Rattle can primer is just as good as airbrush primer if done correctly. If it looks splatter-y, then the temperature of your rattle can isn't optimal, giving you subpar results. It would be nice to see a video of you trying rattle can primer the right way, and clarifying that it's not worse than airbrushed primer.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  41 минуту назад

      But it is worse, much worse because you don’t have precise control over how it goes on. You cannot control the pressure blast of a rattlecan. It will always flood the entire area and never subtly leave recesses untouched.
      A dual action airbrush allows for very precise air control on the trigger and thus paint control. You simply cannot do this with a rattlecan.

  • @jimwake1123
    @jimwake1123 Месяц назад +1

    This video was really helpfu thanks! I've understood the theory behind this for some time but putting it into practice has always seemed harder than I initially thought, this should defo put me on the right track though. I will be checking out those one 4 all paints too for my airbrush cheers!

  • @michelleoakes6318
    @michelleoakes6318 22 дня назад +1

    This was awesome and agree with some of the comments on color theory. Please consider doing one on it. Would love to learn more about pairing colors together. Thanks!

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  21 день назад +1

      It’s on my list (long long list) of things I want to do. But my real job gets in the way. 🤣🤣

    • @michelleoakes6318
      @michelleoakes6318 21 день назад

      @@thestateofplay2023 Totally understand! Thanks for the awesome videos! 😀

  • @kultea
    @kultea Месяц назад +1

    As a new to mini's painting hobbyist, this was VERY informative, thank you!

  • @pipwilson777
    @pipwilson777 28 дней назад +1

    Brilliant writing and presentation. Perfection.

  • @Dakarum481
    @Dakarum481 Месяц назад +1

    Subscribed. Love the way you explain things and your humor. Definitely kept me engaged and you seem like a cool dude. Keep up the great work.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      🤣🤣Thanks! Next time I have a job interview you can be my reference! 😜

  • @DrNitroGecko
    @DrNitroGecko Месяц назад +1

    Yes, colourful priming has helped me a lot

  • @Psykroids
    @Psykroids 13 дней назад +1

    I undercoat. Yes it's a twice over base coat, then the actual base coat.
    Tedious but much cheaper more room to store stuff and it's just simple.

  • @edwardnagel7598
    @edwardnagel7598 16 дней назад +1

    Dude NICE video. I painted miniatures years ago for fun (not gaming) and I might just wanna get back...

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  День назад

      It’s a slippery, expensive slope. Whatever you choose, it’s not my fault. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Ilikeridin
    @Ilikeridin 3 дня назад +1

    Amazing video. I learnt so much and enjoyed watching as a whole. So much I don’t know about colour theory. New to the channel alsi, subscribed.

  • @Grithertime
    @Grithertime 27 дней назад +1

    Absolutely awesome video!

  • @MTGreborn
    @MTGreborn 18 дней назад +1

    A really useful video, thank you mate!

  • @fightingcorsair7297
    @fightingcorsair7297 Месяц назад +1

    Buying a proper airbrush has been one of the best things I have ever done. When I look back at my previous workflow it was like painting in the dark while wearing mittens.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Yes I tried painting like that once. The dark was fine. But man, I couldn’t pick up a single paintbrush with the mittens on! 🤣

  • @Felipe-ul9kc
    @Felipe-ul9kc Месяц назад +1

    Amazing video!!!! I just picked an airbrush a couple of weeks ago and the first things I’ve practicing is priming….in black lol. This made me re-think the whole process 🎉

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад +1

      Cool! Practice with any colour, including black. But when starting have a think about what colours will help you get the model done. It’s often not black that helps.

  • @BouvToTheMax
    @BouvToTheMax Месяц назад +1

    I always love how you show so many tips and comparisons in one video! I feel the pull towards the airbrush… time to boot up your airbrush videos

  • @LordGerbito
    @LordGerbito Месяц назад +1

    I don't paint during summer, saving this video for winter me. As always, neet and strait to the point.

    • @thestateofplay2023
      @thestateofplay2023  Месяц назад

      I wish I had a good enough summer to play outside!! 😜