Jeff Durbin: Sola Scriptura & Rome Pt. 4
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- Jeff Durbin sermon on Sola Scriptura part 4.
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Hi, I found your sermons a couple weeks ago and your preaching is awesome, in that it seems to be totally lined up with the Word of God, but today I was watching this sermon and Jeff was talking about people who claim Jesus(who is God Almighty) spoke to them, and sounded like he was claiming that isn't possible, but that's wrong according to Scripture, 4 Times in John ch 10 Jesus said, My sheep heary.voice and they know me.
I was lost and fairly happy with it, and then in Oct 1991 I had read some in a Bible my late grandmother gave me and I did that whenever I thought of her, but on that day(Oct 1st) I noticed that the bible isn't a normal book, so I sat down and purposed in my heart to read and find out what the mystery was, it was a struggle to say the least to understand what was being said, so I started in Matthew and I would read half a verse and think about it, then read the other half of the verse and think about it, this went on for a while and then all of a sudden I was reading anymore, but Jesus was speaking, telling me what to do, also at the same time the words came up off the page a couple inches, I flipped back to see where it started, but couldn't find it, but when I heard Jesus's voice I was changed Immediately, the things I loved before hearing Jesus speak I now despise and the things I despised before hearing Jesus speak I now love, and Jesus has been with me ever since.
Look in Jude verse 9 and tell me what the devil did with the body of Moses?
What led me to see this was in one night I had a dream 3 times and here is the dream.
(We all know in the Hebrew language things are repeated for importance).
Something wonderful had happened in the world, people were giving send gifts and were very happy, and I woke up, then I fell back to sleep and saw the same dream again, world wide rejoicing, giving gifts, total happiness, I woke and then fell back to sleep the third time, same dream again, world wide rejoicing and happiness over what had happened, then I heard someone say, It's Moses, when I heard the news I was happy also, and still dreaming I decided to go to work and tell everyone the good news, but when I got to work and angel of the Lord came running towards me with his left arm raised shouting this:
DON'T FOLLOW MOSES, MOSES IS THE BEAST!
We all know God(Jesus)is the Sovereign God of all things, why would someone preaching say God is not talking to anyone nowadays?
Do not limit God.
It's not healthy for you.
This was such a breath of fresh air, thank you!
I am not sure why people would WANT their ultimate authority to be a human being, when they know that none of us is perfect.
There are authoritative contracts in the Bible between God and humans. Genesis 9:6 If anyone takes a human life, that person’s life will also be taken by human hands. For God made human beings in his own image.
I’ve wondered this as well. My theory is that it’s easier to just believe that one man has all the answers. If there is one prophet or modern-day apostle, then all you have to do is listen to what he says instead of having to do the hard exegesis and prayerful study.
@@robertpellow9466 Maybe that's comforting for some people. For me, it would be just the opposite. If that one person fails you somehow... then what? And, again, we all know that there is no one perfect!
That’s exactly correct and why you shouldn’t be a Reformed Protestant. Scripture says we should seek Salvation with fear and trembling. How can you be the judge of Scripture or Durbin or any individual and comply with its commands. We can’t that’s why God gave us through the Holy Spirit on Pentecost his Church and has never abandoned it. Roman Catholics abandoned it, Luther and Calvin and Knox…… and all their after affected have abandoned it but the Holy Spirit never did and never will and the proof is in Scripture if you resist quote mining and truly honor all,of it in its complete, complex and cultural context that can only be provided by and in the Body of Christ.
Pride. ‘You will become like God’
Amen and amen. It takes time to build faith. Read the word and be obedient. Work out your salvation with "fear and trembling" is just that. Each person has their own relationship with the Father. Godspeed everyone.
I promise is my last text but for all you people if you need to understand GOD WORD let’s PRAY .. Holy and divine spirit destroy in me, all spiritual laziness,all indifference, all doubt, all fear. Fill me fully with your light, your wisdom, your peace, your joy,and your love. To you divine spirit that you are GOD and always accompanies us,to you be the glory, the honor, the power, the adoration for ever and ever AMEN.🙏
Amen
Prayers for anyone deceived by false teachers or heresy or false prophesy or papal idolatry or any way we may be led astray by man, rather than being led by God by His Spirit, saved only by the love of God as shown by Christ, His life, death, and resurrection, and exaltation, by grace and mercy, through faith, thanks to the one true Gospel, thanks to only the true Word of God
Prayers for those deceived and in bondage to man made 16th century philosophies developed by attorneys and not actual bishops and fathers of the church.
@@mistertracey1 it's a good thing that you're opinion doesn't reflect reality :)
@icxcnika7722 these go back way farther than the 1500s and can be linked to the apostles
@@icxcnika7722 history shows that protestants recovered history, they didn't start something new. That's not an opinion.
All your thousand pastors with their different dogmas claim to be "led by the spirit", often before they start asking you for your money. What a sad joke
My experience has been that it's just about impossible to have productive dialogue with (hardcore) Catholics about their faith. Even atheists have been a bit easier in that regard.
Its productive if the arguments are sound n scripturaly based. It's your responsibility to determine who is right. Everyone should be hardcore about their faith
@@strannick2212The problem is that Google happened. You can now read about the early Church and people like my wife for example, now know that the early Church resembles the Catholic Church more then the protestant version of Christianity. That's why you see people ditching the reformation now. Because you can learn for yourself and see that their views were not in alignment with reformer thought.
@@dman7668 indeed.
yep. i’ve found that many catholics, while claiming to revere scripture, ultimately don’t care what it says. it’s a cult just the same as mormonism, islam, or any other false religion
I'm almost 1/2 through this. Man alive, that "God told me", "listen to God's voice" thing has become somewhat of a shorthand among Christians. It's nearly impossible to get them out of it because it seems they don't even realize they are doing it. They get so upset if you try to catch them on it. Yet those same people are often the ones who struggle with reading their Bibles on a regular basis. It's maddening. I'm not sure how to even deal with people like this anymore.
*Scripture alone could not possibly be the sole source of hundreds of thousands of conflicting doctrines, roving the whole concept is a Hoax to those who profess it.*
Thanks for posting. I really missed the service last night 😊
What amazes me is that in the recent debate: White x Horn on Sola Scriputra, Horn had to dismiss and sometimes even diminish or almost deny scripture, specially th NT, saying stuff like: how do we know the canon? Or how the church fathers knew the canon? Implicitly saying that no one knew whats was the real revelation, in order to afirm RCC bizarr tradition doctrines.
And his whole argument was: show me a verse that explicitly says scripture is the sole rule of authotity for God's revelation. And then, when Dr. White showed them the verses where Jesus plainly states that scripture is the rule of authority, he would deny it. I mean, he denied Jesus's own words to make his point.
Horn was saying Biblically speaking, doctrinal matters were referred to the Church. Otherwise, like in Protestantism, every Preacher is a Pope to his/ her congregation, all with wildly differing interpretations, that extend into Mormanism n JWs and you have the current doctrinal diffusion .
@strannick2212 those are not Christians and you are not aware of history
@@strannick2212RCC claims exclusivity just like Mormons and JW
@@mistertracey1 I agree they are not Christians.
I can't counter argue to a point made about my awareness.
@strannick2212 protestants reclaimed hostory, they didn't create a new thing
I bought that book when Kirk was talking about it on his podcast, "Lex, Rex". Foundations for a moral government.
We are seeing ATM that there is no possibility for a moral foundation for govt without God. Globalist Haari, Schwab's right hand man, sincerely said that human rights , national boundaries, like God, are a fiction.
This echoes Nietzsche n St Paul when they say, without God everything is permitted
More and more I see Catholic apoligists using liberal arguments when it comes to objective truths.
The chruch may err on Doctrines and later change, how do we know tomorrow will the same in the future? We The Biblical christian says the same is yesterday,today, and tomorrow for Doctrine because the Bible objectively said so. The Word of God is the same yesterday, today and forever
Which doctrine of the million different doctrines of the million different churches would you be referring to?
@@strannick2212 now who's being insincere?
@@strannick2212 another liberal argument, " which god, out of the many gods do you believe" anyone who is intellectually honest knows according to scripture knows the deity of Christ, that we cannot become gods, the Jesus was not just a prophet, and I can go on and on. This also includes many protestants like Mormons and jehova witnesses, Muslims, 7th day Adventists etc..
But back to the point. It's liberal arguments, Pope Francis is a clear example of where sadly the Church is going
DOCTRINE do you know when JESUS Talk in the BIBLE he talks about he’s DOCTRINE!!! John 6:51-58 John 20 :21-23 believe, and believe him!!!
Really Enjoyed this series. Are these 4 Parts going to be on a Playlist fore easy sharing? Thanks!!
Reminds me of Isaiah 28:16-19
Courtesy of Jimmy Akin (ex Protestant turned Catholic) ‘Practical Problems of Sola Scriptura’
Simply stated, the Protestant doctrine of sola scriptura (“Scripture alone”) teaches that every teaching in Christian theology (everything pertaining to “faith and practice”) must be able to be derived from Scripture alone. This is expressed by the Reformation slogan Quod non est biblicum, non est theologicum (“What is not biblical is not theological,” cf. Dictionary of Latin and Greek Theological Terms: Drawn Principally from Protestant Scholastic Theology, Richard A. Muller, Baker, 1985).
An essential part of this doctrine, as it has been historically articulated by Protestants, is that theology must be done without allowing Tradition or a Magisterium (teaching authority) any binding authority. If Tradition or a Magisterium could bind the conscience of the believer as to what he was to believe then the believer would not be looking to Scripture alone as his authority.
A necessarily corollary of the doctrine of sola scriptura is, therefore, the idea of an absolute right of private judgment in the interpretation of the Scriptures. Each individual has the final prerogative to decide for himself what the correct interpretation of a given passage of Scripture means, irrespective of what anyone-or everyone-else says.
If anyone or even everyone else together could tell the believer what to believe, Scripture would not be his sole authority; something else would have binding authority. Thus, according to sola scriptura, any role Tradition, a Magisterium, Bible commentaries, or anything else may play in theology is simply to suggest interpretations and evidence to the believer as he makes his decision.
Each individual Christian is thus put in the position of being his own theologian.
Of course, we all know that the average Christian does not exercise this role in any consistent way, even the average person admitted by Fundamentalists to be a genuine, “born again” believer.
There are simply too many godly grannies who are very devout in their faith in Jesus, but who are in no way inclined to become theologians.
Not only is the average Christian totally disinclined to fulfill the role of theologian, but if they try to do so, and if they arrive at conclusions different than those of the church they belong to-an easy task considering the number of different theological issues-then they will quickly discover that their right to private judgment amounts to a right to shut up or leave the congregation.
Protestant pastors have long realized (in fact, Luther and Calvin realized it) that, although they must preach the doctrine of private judgment to ensure their own right to preach, 👉they must prohibit the exercise of this right in practice for others👈, lest the group be torn apart by strife and finally break up.
It is the failure of the prohibition of the right of private judgment that has resulted in the over 20,000+ Christian Protestant denominations listed in the Oxford University Press’s World Christian Encyclopedia.
The disintegration of Protestantism into so many competing factions, teaching different doctrines on key theological issues (What kind of faith saves? Is baptism necessary? Needed? Is baptism for infants? Must baptism be by immersion only? Can one lose salvation? How? Can it be gotten back? How? Is the Real Presence true? Are spiritual gifts like tongues and healing for today? For everyone? What about predestination? What about free will? What about church government?) is itself an important indicator of the practical failure of the doctrine of private judgment, and thus the doctrine of sola scriptura.
I confess I have played the knowledgeable fool instead of the wise discipline when engaging with Catholics. I've cloaked my resentment and bitterness in a Christian garb. I've let my tongue run loose, causing more contention than harmony. I haven't been genuinely open to hearing their positions. I've closed my ears to their arguments. I've used God's truth in order to shame and belittle, instead of showing love. I've brought further separation between my fellow image bearers.
I am a hypocrite, and God's word holds me to account.
If you were knowledable, you'd be Catholic.
If youre Calvinist then there are no consequences to you're actions any way since your saved (you're not)
You're self critique is admirable tho as you're right, we have to discourse as Christians
@@strannick2212 I'm not right The Bible is right, and I'm convicted. That's why I'm a Calvinist. The saving knowledge of Jesus, and full faith in scripture alone, is what makes me a Christian and a Protestant, which I hold in my born again/renewed heart to be the truth faith of Christ.
Bless 🙏
@@joeschmoe6720 onve saved always saved doesn't follow from that. Once saved always saved is a spiritually psychotic, anti biblical doctrine that let's people persist in their sin and will leaf many to Hell
@@joeschmoe6720Amen...📖🌷💥 God Bless you...stay with the truth ...📖
Exelent!!!
Hi love listen to your sermons, thw churches here in my city in Sweden has gone woke. I wonder what bibleversion do you use in your church?
Kindly Mai-Britt.
The ESV is a very solid one. I'm not positive they use that one, but I have a hard time finding credible people who speak against it.
Remember JESUS built only one CHURCH and is in this world for more than 2000 years…😃😃😃
So sda doesn’t apply to sola scriptural ?
SDA Adventism is crazy because Ellen White herself is crazy literally. The entire religion was started by a woman who took a blow to the head.
Death and life are in the power of the tongue (Proverbs 18:21):
When we are children we are in the hands of others, but when we are adults we are to “put away childish things” (1 Corinthians 13:11). As adults, we are fully responsible for what we say and do. Most people blame others for their misfortunes, not realizing that everything they think, feel, say, and do will completely determine what takes place in their life. The wages of the tongue that speaks evil is death, which ultimately leads to hell (Romans 6:23). There are many types of death: death of peace, happiness, love, and eventually the soul.
However, those who belong to God will speak life in everything they do. When bad things happen, look to yourselves because there is unrepented sin in your life. Repent, come to the Lord, and God will forgive-and your lives will turn for the better. Amen.
“being confirmed both by the New Testament and the Old...” Athanaesius
What did God say about the seventh day?
What did God write twice on tablets of stone? And then explain twice in two different ways in Levitucus and Deutronomy in two specific ways just so that Jews and Gentiles can understand the fourth commandment?
@arlindodossantos2305 well he gave those laws to the Jews. Also no where did it say you can't have church in sunday.
1. Jesus will not blot your name from book of life IF You overcome . (Rev 3:5)
2. Exodus 32:31-33
God said whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. ( see Psalm 69:28 also )
3. Some have wandered away from the faith (1 Tim. 6:10)
4. Swerve from the faith (1 Tim. 6:21)
5. Abandon our faith (1 Tim. 5:12)
6. Make shipwreck of our faith (1 Tim. 1:19)
7. you have been severed from Christ and fallen from grace (Gal. 5:4-5)
7. you have been severed from Christ and fallen from grace (Gal. 5:4-5)
8. Desert him who called you and turn to a different gospel (Gal. 1:6)
9. Receive the grace of God in vain (2 Cor. 6:1)
10. Swerve from the truth, upsetting the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18)
11. Drift away from the truth (Heb. 2:1)
12. Have an evil, unbelieving heart, leading us to fall away from the living God (Heb. 3:12)
13. Dont Be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin / "If we keep our commitment till end "(Heb. 3:12-14)
14. Fail to reach the promise of entering into His rest (Heb. 4:1)
15. Fall by disobedience to enter His rest (Heb. 4:11)
16. Fall away and impossible to restore unto repentance again (Heb. 6:4-6)
17. Deliberately go on sinning and no longer have a sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26-27)
18. Shrink back to destruction. (Heb. 10:38-39
19. Fail to obtain the grace of God (Heb. 12:15)
20. Wander from the truth (James 5:19-20)
21. Forsake the right way (2 Peter 2:15)
22. Become entangled and overcome AFTER having escaped them (2 Peter 2:20-23)
23. Be carried away with the error of lawless people and lose our stability (2 peter 3:17)
24. Commit a sin leading to death (1 John 5:16)
25. Stop abiding in the teaching of Christ (2 John 1:9)
26. " Who endures to the end will be saved--- Matt 24:13
27. "...IF you hold fast.... Otherwise you believed in Vain. ( 1 Cor 15:1-2)
28. Paul discplines his body so that after preaching he himself will not be disqualified. ----1 Corinthians 9:27
29. Now salvation nearer to us then when we first believed ---Romans 13:11
30. Revelation 3:11
I am coming quickly; hold firmly to what you have, so that no one will take your crown."
* Notice It is a crown of LIFE , not a crown of rewards (Rev 2:10)
31. Romans 11:22
See then the kindness and severity of God: to those who FELL , SEVERITY , but to you, God’s kindness, IF YOU CONTINUE in His kindness; for OTHERWISE YOU TOO WILL BE CUT OFF.
32 . 2 Timothy 2:12
IF WE ENDURE , WE WILL ALSO REIGN WITH HIM If we deny Him, He will also deny us;
33. Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit, He takes away; (John 15:2 ).
34. the one who has ENDURED TO THE END WHO WILL BE SAVED. --(Matt 10:22)
35. 1 John 2:24
As for you, see that what you heard from the beginning remains in you. IF what you heard from the beginning REMAINS in you, you also will REMAIN in the Son and in the Father.
36. 1 Timothy 4:16
Paying close attention to teaching will save yourself and others
37. 2 Peter 1:10
AS LONG AS you practice these things, you will never stumble;
38. Hosea 5:4
“Their deeds do not permit them to return to their God. A spirit of prostitution is in their heart;
39. Collosians 1:21-23
if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established.
40. If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us; (2 Timothy 2:12)
41. Dilegance /endurance to realize full assurance -- Hebrews 6:11-12
42. Jesus will come again for our salvation , its not a guaranteed thing now.---( Hebrews 9:28)
43. John 15:6
IF ANYONE does not REMAIN In Me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up; and they gather them and throw them into the FIRE and they are BURNED.
* Calvinism is false.
The Apocrypha was/is the RC money maker.
Really?? Were those books making the Essenes money too, do you think, since they were in the Dead Sea Scrolls??
@@truthnotlies I don't know about the Essenes other than they were the mystics; we are talking about the RCC. Buy your way out of purgatory, I don't think so. It's that "so none may boast" thing.
@@IBenZik so the Orthodox are making money on the books as well?? The Essenes are known for their keeping writings preserved. Many think John the Baptist may have been an Essene. They were a Jewish sect.
@@truthnotlies They were wrong too.
@@IBenZik ok. So the majority of Christians were wrong for over 1000 years?? And the RC makes money off the wrong books but the Orthodox don't? I'm a new Christian. I'm confused. Can you explain?
Here's a scripture that the the Sola Scriptura people will absolutely love!
Paul prophesied, *"The God of Peace will crush Satan under the Church of Rome's feet"* Rom.16:20
What translation is that?
Honestly Bill I looked up Bible hub and none of the translations say that. It says this:
"The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you."
@68 The Epistle of Romans is written to the church of Rome. The "your" is the Church of Rome to whom the Epistle is written. It's not difficult.
Likewise, the first 8 verses of Chapter 1 of Paul's epistle are written to and about the Church of Rome. This is what is says:
1 The Church of Rome's faith was " *spoken of throughout the whole world* (same as all nations, "Catholic") ". Rom.1:8
2. God is Paul's witness *Paul prayed without ceasing* for the Church of Rome.*
Also, "Making mention of the Church of Rome always in his prayers" . Rom.1:9
3. Paul extended ' *Grace and Peace from the Father and Lord Jesus Christ to the Church of Rome* . (Rom. 1: 7)
4. *Paul thanked God for the Church of Rome* and calls them the beloved OF God!! (Rom. 1:8)
@@billclass5847 Paul wrote letters to seven churches, not just Rome
@@mistertracey1 The letter to the church of Rome is not the letter to the 7 churches of Revelation. Nice try though
Reformed Sola, Sola Scriptura. Rome’s Sola, Sola Ecclesia. Orthodox Sola, The Holy Spirit’s Continued Inspiration defined by Scripture from Pentecost On.
I believe that Jeff has a fundamental misunderstanding of how Catholics/Orthodox view the Church Fathers. As I understand it, they acknowledge that not any single Father got everything right. They also don’t look for (or expect) them to be unanimous. Rather, the Fathers serve as an authority where a consensus is found among them, as with the apostles at the Council of Jerusalem recorded in Acts. And, the Orthodox don’t separate scripture from tradition. To them, scripture is a part of what is called Holy Tradition, which they consider the authority.
Yes, but the point is that if you claim to be the one true church because of a link to the church fathers, well, protestants have that too. They just don't claim to be exclusive as do the others.
Except when it comes to the Ecclesia …..😬
No, the Fathers are not an authority ONLY when they agree with one another, that is something I have to disagree with you on. The Fathers do however give us a picture of the beliefs of the Early Church and yes, we do have to lend them some weight when they appear to have the majority sharing a certain belief. But ultimately it's Church Councils and not Church Fathers that decide Church doctrine. Though they absolutely give us important insight into Church practice and belief.
@@dman7668 so, only councils by Rome count as the other groups were not included?
If sola scriptura is true why is there so many protestant denominations?
Do you even understand your arguement?
If a person misuses/ignores their technical manual for theit car and pours antifreeze in the gas tank, does that mean the manual is not sufficient for knowing what you need to know about properly operating your vehicle?
Then which pastor or denomination interpretation of the bible is the correct one?
@rojo1031 well, we test them by scripture as we did the catholic clergy and popes, as we were told to by God's word.
Actually to demand that all denominations see eye to eye on everything in scripture is to demand that someone has ultimate authority to interpret scripture for everyone else. Protestants misunderstanding scripture or disagreeing about exactly what scripture teaches actually says nothing about whether or not scripture is the ultimate authority. People misunderstand things all the time, but the point is that the bible is the authority, not some other person or group or whatever else.
How did you get the canon?
The Holy Spirit
@@mistertracey1 ok and someone else says they have Holy Spirit but doesn't recognize James as legitimate. On what basis do you defend your canon? What do you appeal to?
@@truthnotliesI appeal to history and the original keepers of the OT Canon. We use the Hebrew canon.
@@mistertracey1 some of the primary keepers of the OT, the Essenes (think Dead Sea Scrolls) also kept the "Apocrypha"... Does your canon include that?
Also, I'm curious: what's the difference between appealing to the Jewish religious leaders vs Christian religious leaders?
sorry durbin ...
easily refuting anti-mormons. anti-mormons do not understand basic christian doctrine. here's the big problem for you, and all so-called christian churches, that you refuse to acknowledge ... jesus founded his church on prophets and apostles. the scriptures clearly tell us that, many times. and there is only one church today that has prophets and apostles. the restored church of jesus christ. "the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints" which you refer to as mormons. not any of yours. consider yourself schooled. the church of god in the time of the prophets, was built on the foundation of the prophets, i. e. upon those doctrines and doctrinal truths deliver'd by them. the church of god under the new testament, is built not only on the foundation of the prophets, but of the apostles, Rev. 21:14. this is precisely what paul affirms in ephesians 2:20 where he says that the church is “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, christ jesus himself being the cornerstone” (cf. rev. 21:14; also 1cor. 3:10-11 in context). the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints is the ONLY church today built on a foundation of apostles and prophets. anti-mormons are teaching a false gospel (just like all protestants). for that matter, catholics as well.
“Conflict in how do I know?” Mormons, Koresh……….Calvin……..Jeff Durbin. Every practitioner of Sola Scriptura offer interpretation. All Reform apologist admit it. Just think of how often Jeff Durbin says “what Jesus is saying here is” or “what the word of God is saying to me is”. There is no difference. The Body of Christ that wrote, compiled, selected and made Scrioture Canon by inspiration of the Holy Spirit also provided the interpretation by the same inspiration. The resounding voices of the many, the, Apostles, Apostolic Fathers, Church Fathers, Saints and Martyrs that provided canon also provided interpretation.
On the Deuterocanonical books. When Jesus and the Apostles spoke of and quoted from them in the New testament they made them Canon. Made them Scripture by your own definition. If they were read and used and quoted by our Lord and the Apostles why not us.
Origen is the perfect example of your great error and the heresy of Sola Scriptura. Origin was declared a heretic at the second Council of Constantinople in 553. He and all his works declared anathema, why? Because every word he spoke and wrote was heresy. Not remotely. Origin was one of if not the most prolific writer producing between 4,000 and 6,000 written works. The Church the Body of Christ declared him a Heretic because the things that are Orthodox are expressed elsewhere by others without sifting through all the heretical stuff. That is the same process that the Church the Body of Christ selected Orthodox books for inclusion as Canon and those that were Heretical as a matter of Tradition defined, explained and practiced in Scripture. Accepting Sola Scriptura actually denies Scripture itself.
Awesome
@apolagia studios Are you not doing the same by saying that head coverings are a side issue? By doing so you are hurting the Word.
Wasn't Paul's comments on head coverings in the new testament about unity in the church only and not a law given by Christ in the new covenant?
@@michaels7325100%
You keep making the seam mistakes… HOW WE LOOSE THE ETERNAL LIFE???… GENESIS 3:1-19 READ 🙏🙏🙏… HOW WE CAN HAVE THE ETERNAL LIFE AGAIN??? … JOHN 6:53-59!!! Remember the LAST PROFET I was JOHN the BAPTIST and when they kill them is not more PROPHET in the EARTH any more don’t KEEP LYING… All we need to understand is not about tradition or religion is about BELIEVE JESUS and BELIEVE HIM!!!😃😃😃😃
The elect cannot lose their salvation
I’ll assume your multiple misspelling are a result of English not being your primary language and not ignorance
My lenguage is Spanish, l can speak and understand more than reading and my point is way him just talk bad about CATHOLICS ??? If he be focus on his own salvation is not a problem but he use the BIBLE to he’s own destruction… The BIBLE do not refute Catholicism the BIBLE confirm Catholicism!!! For example Acts 16:31 and Matthew 19:16-17 . To be save we need FAITH and WORKS and to be understand they need to understand the difference between JEWS and GENTILES …Romans 2:13… Romans 13:8-9 (Jesus law )Galatians 6:2 … 1 Corinthians 9:21 … Romans 3:30 and The book of James REFUTE the sola scriptural James 2:24 you can take a look!!!
My only concern is to defend my CHURCH and all the time he talking bad about CATHOLICS.
Don’t forget about the difference between whites, blacks and brown people in front of GOD why are the same… English or Spanish not different Read The chapters l send you and you find out Sola scriptural is Refute by the BIBLE
It’s hilarious! He begins his speech on sola Scriptura with the fact there are voluminous disagreements undermining his whole argument. If he has to tell us what the scripture means, it’s no longer SOLA. "Sola Scriptura" is itself an oxymoron people hide behind "Sola Scriptura" , when what they really mean is *"SOLA CENSIO"* based on some guessing and far out, whacked out imaginary doctrine.
Yup
Well spoken. Again I must point out that you don’t have a “sola” either. You have the Bible and your interpretation just like Rome. The Bible is Sacred but not infallible.
Also, in America, where the law is King, who is the final Authority? The Republic, and it includes a body for interpretation. Peace be with you and God protect you all.
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If the Bible is NOT infallible, why even read it ?
There is no point
@@toolegittoquit_001 you could find out unequivocally, that the Bible is history, and poetry, and commentary, and philosophy, and a version of “royalty history,” and the ancient world version of “special effects” and nothing more and it would completely destroy your faith, your life’s philosophy, while mine would remain unchanged.
My love for Jesus, and the Patriarchs, and the Gospel writers and their history is in no danger of any calamity Heaven or Earth could offer. I am a descendant of Abraham unchanged by the breaking of the world as is, or post apocalypse.
Don’t feel bad tho…
My faith isn’t the type that is likely to ever produce anything similar to a Whirling Dervish (and I rather like Whirling Dervishes)
That’s why when I tell you I honestly Ilove the heck out of you folks though we may disagree on many things. You don’t need faith to believe me.
I am a Catholic and I love Pastor Jeff Durbin. He is on the front lines fighting for Christ and fighting for life. Much respect to him. However, sola scripture is a fallacy. Christ created a church, not the Bible. He gave the Church the authority to bind and loose. With authority from Christ and the oral traditions handed down, the Church defined the Bible. Therefore, the magisterial authority and traditions were needed to define the canon of the the Bible. This is just fact.
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The RCC is apostate
End of story
I disagree - if you're curious for a more in depth exposition on why Protestants don't hold to the views you just described, Gavin Ortlund has many excellent and very irenic (aiming for a spirit of peace) videos going in depth on those subjects, and many more besides.
Tattoo of Athanasius, really? But honoring him in Traditional honorable prayerful Paint on wood is heretical. Durbin your hypocrisy knows no bounds. May you repent and find the body of Christ. Catholic doesn’t mean Universal it means all encompassing one Church. If that man saved in China But believes in the Arian heresy is he of your universal Church? Dose the African Christian believe in the Orthodox Christ or the Nestorian Christ? Or the Mormon Christ? There is only one Christ and how you know him is important!
including a wide variety of things, or all-embracing;
universal or of general interest;
having broad interests, or wide sympathies;
inclusive, inviting.
This is what catholic means
@@mistertracey1 Thank you for the 21st century Webster definition but that’s not necessarily the definition of the term used by the Church fathers in the first three centuries.
@@SaltShack they meant universal church
@@mistertracey1 This is the problem of lacking the complete and complex and cultural context of the first Century Saints that is only availed in the Body of Christ. Pastor Durbin can claim catholicity and universality of Reformed Protestantism even when the groups he is including beliefs vary greatly but when you read St. Ignatius, Polycarp, Athenasius, Chrysostom and the Bible that’s is exactly what they are fighting against when they say Universal, Catholic or One Church. They use the words or rather modern translation uses the words of the Saints and Scripture, Durbin uses same words, a random person on a RUclips forum repeats them and Shazaaaam, we are all saying the same thing and each claim authority of the Saints and even the Bible. It’s wrong and leads people away from the Body of Christ and Truth. Look at the translation of the Lord’s Prayer. Is it Debt or is it our Trespasses that are to forgive and be forgiven for. The original Greek has a different meaning entirely but rather than adding an entire sentence Translation has provided us those two approximate words.
@SaltShack it's not a problem when protestant groups have been around since time first century and also have connection with the apostles. Many more would have survived had Rome not murdered them.
This is boring drivel.
Im a Catholic. Calvinism is unChristian absurd and repugnant
Good arguement
hopefully one day God will grant you true repentance and you will leave the false religious and abomination known as Roman "catholicism".
I do not know much about Calvinism. Since there is so much to study, but how is it "unchristian?" Is it not just about the word of God alone?
@@mistertracey1 Calvinisms teachings speak for themselves. Once saved always saved is specifically odious
In the same way that one may consider a Calvinist doctrine so, then what of all of the Papal/Roman religion's dogmas that are extra/apocryphal? What of the heresy and heterodoxy in the Roman Catholic catechism over many centuries? You could have one pope that would have another pope burned or executed or ostracized as anathema, yet the claim of papal infallibility, so...what of this? What of the worship of Mary or saints? What of works-based soteriological dogmas? Indulgences? If they are now abrogated or adjusted to be better or worse than they were before, then how is this mutable system somehow dogmatic and infallible?