This is MESSED UP! Biggest Plumbing SCAM Seen in TEXAS
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- This is MESSED UP Biggest Plumbing SCAM Seen in TEXAS - Plumber Reacts to Scammers
This so-called "plumber" down in San Antonio did some suspicious "plumbing" repairs using SharkBites and of course, they failed and caused major flooding throughout the home. The homeowner is MAD, let me know in the comments what you would've done if this happened to you.
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I agree SharkBite isn't the ideal thing to use long term, but the reason they blew out when he turned the water on is that the guy that installed them was as good at that as he was at finding the leaks. It's likely that his main qualification as a plumber was that he had the skills to log into their contractor website and sign up.
For sure, I doubt he fully seated them and pulled back.
The issue with shark bite connectors is you can have professionals who are thorough and care use them to great success, and you have novice/complete idiots who use them with incompetence; and sometimes the only way to tell which person did it is to take it completely apart. They also cost more than any other solution, so is the person who did it just a scammer, doesn’t have the money to buy sustainable tools for less costly per fitting connections, someone who doesn’t know what they are doing, or was it a temporary fix where the professional was not paid/allowed to come back and do the real fix a few days later.
Sharkbites work fine when installed properly. Don't use them behind walls. Roger said these "Sharkbite caps now blow apart and start leaking" lol. Then they weren't installed properly. And they didn't blow apart, that's ridiculous. Only deep freeze ice formation will force a Sharkbite off a pipe. It is likely the plumber in question is a hack. But Roger is not recounting sufficient details to the story, and smearing push-on fittings for fun. They have suitable uses and work fine when installed properly.
That "repair" wouldn't even be acceptable with a DIY 'jack of all trades'. Its a total joke.
Roger, I'm a senior claims agent for a company that administers home warranties. In the past I carried a Journeyman cert for plumbing/pipefitting. I can state categorically there is NO WAY we would have approved that work at all. Isolation is one thing but cutting and capping every line like that w/o visual? Plus, if you aren't set up FOR leak detection, I don't even know how they were dispatched. This would have ended up with our liability folks as it's quite obvious damages were caused by the service provider here.
Yea I’m a plumber that does home warranty calls, we NEVER START DOING WORK THIS WAY. always do a correct leak detection and isolating all possibilities
This was a crook looking for a big payday. I get calls from clients and friends where someone is trying to take advantage of them. I'd like to get one of those guys on video and then give them a rubber hose beating.
@@matteberry58 I’ll film or I’ll hold him down your choice
Dude needs to go jail!
I'm not a plumber, but my grandfather was and he taught me a lot. I've done a lot of work as an electrician with my brother. The first rule is only cut the bare minimum. If this was my house the second i saw an 8ft cut anywhere I'm calling up a lawyer to have ready with a lawsuit for both the home warranty as well as the "plumber". They would thank whatever deity they pray to that I would be at the hospital with my family, because if i was there myself they aren't walking away from a damn thing.
Electrician here too. And yes if I cut 8 foot holes, my boss would probably fire me on the spot.
Rodger I owned a mechanical company in DFW for about 25 years until I retired. I came across many “ home warranty company service providers “
Most have enough knowledge to hurt somebody, and the customer thinks they have an insurance policy not a warranty. The warranty company is only trying to get out of the repair as cheaply as possible because the homeowner only has enough coverage as their yearly payments, and the homeowners in most cases aren’t aware the limits of the cost.
Yeah home warranties are a scam, the warranty company has one purpose, to make money. So you know it's costing you more since you have to pay for the repair plus the warranty companies overhead and profit. Way better off just saving money for when problems arise.
As a 2nd year apprentice (just completed my first year and running my calls with my company now) I can tell you that if I go somewhere and see shark bite caps I’m IMMEDIATELY changing those out. If I leave a house and it has shark bite fittings and the customer has a leak….it would be my fault for not getting things squared away. Soldering pipe is one of the easiest things we can do as plumbers so I don’t get why there’s so much BS work out there.
I trust only solder and press caps🍾
@@chancegee7578 same here i personally solder but i can trust if a plumber uses press, However plastic fittings apart from Mdpe mains fittings are mostly all trash. I went to a job with a leak it was a plastic poly fitting. I replaced it with another new poly fitting and it still leaked. So i soldered it and it didnt leak at all, Will continue to stick to solder as its the best choice to go for.
@@Adempting all poly needs to be ripped out like lead
I'm glad I never got a chance to say yes to bite fittings. I was only suspicious, not dead set against them.
Greed and substance abuse are usually the cause of all lol
Im work in San Antonio First thing i do is install a isolation valve where the water line ties into the house to separate between the house and a yard leak 90% of the time its a yard leak unless its a flapper
Home warranty companies are a joke. I've done plumbing work for them. I told them a sewer needed replaced and they told me they don't replace things, they only repair. This sewer literally had roots growing in every joint of the clay piping.
Literally my situation. I had concrete pipe from the house to the city main roots at every joint and it was split down the middle at many points with roots everywhere. Luckily I’m also a plumber and did all the work myself. I knew damn well the warranty would fight me tooth and nail about fixing it. So I did it myself
Dude, how old is that place ? I haven't even heard of anyone using clay pipe since the 1960's.
do they not reline clay pipes in the US?
I also work with HW and both HW companies we do work for do not cover roots
I had a main Waste collapse underneath my house It was cast iron I had called 3 plumbing companies and realized I could not afford to do it I started researching plumbing codes and decided to take the project on my self I pulled plumbing permit dug the hole Replaced all my waste Pipes through my entire house Purchase all the equipment test tools everything The plumbing inspector filled me 4 times had may move a pipes a 1/2 an inch several times could not figure out what I was doing wrong my neighbor up the street was a plumber By trade told him I would pay him a 100 bucks for his time to look and see what I was doing Wrong he came down inspected my work he said nothing this is how I would have done it The problem is you are not a licensed plumber He said he would sign off that he did the work I called to set up plumbing inspection my plumbing inspector never came back into the house and signed off my permit When he met the plumber at the house.
I feel your pain on that,,but it's signed and finished...
I had the opposite experience, when the inspector was told that a homeowner (me) did the work, he signed off on it, saying that professionals cut corners and have to be watched like a hawk; that homeowners have a stake in the work and try to do it correctly. I have seen it both ways - a homeowner using a ground wire as a hot wire, a plumber telling me that I could bury a conduit under 6 inches instead of 18 because the inspectors never dig it up.
Our neighbor was a building inspector - after signing off on a garage floor (concrete with mesh), he had forgotten something and went back to the job site to find the contractor putting the now-rolled up mesh into his pickup truck. After confirming he removed the mesh from the garage, the inspector pulled ALL of the inspections for that contractor for garage floors and ordered him to cut out a 12" square to prove the mesh was there - it never was. The contract was sued by a dozen people, the garage floors had to be removed and rebuilt at his cost.
I changed a guys external tankless after the big freeze. He asked me to look at a shower while I was there. I had lots of people with shower issues because they had pressure balancing valves and no hot water. However this guy said his had problems prior to the freeze and his warranty company had sent two separate service companies out and neither of them could figure it out. It was a moen positemp. I waited until the heater was in so I could properly diagnose it. I can’t remember what the issue was but the solution was just to replace the positemp cartridge just like it is with 99% of the issues with shower valves. It seemed to me like they just showed up to collect the service fee. Our company has worked for a couple of home warranty companies. I always hated those jobs. I spend more time on the phone with them than I do actually working. One was Amazon home warranty and it was okay. The other I don’t remember the name but the call center was in India so it was difficult to get anything done. This might be unethical as I’m contracted by those companies but I’d tell customers not to use them. I had a couple that said they don’t pay to replace anything only repair so I had to repair a 14 yr old water heater in an attic. Another one had an extremely old
toilet where the tank had broken. I ended up not doing it because the guy could fix things himself but was just going to use the warranty company to save money. I told him he’d come out better if he just bought a toilet and replaced it because I would have to make a trip out there, “diagnose” a visibly broken tank, then not fix anything because I can’t buy another tank and they won’t pay for replacement so they were basically useless.
and kudos for calling out the bad company by name. I looked them up and saw their bad reviews, including the review corresponding to the story you highlighted here. Is this something the Texas SBPE would get involved with or are they pretty toothless for going after shady contractors?
Texas is very business friendly. It'll be tougher than some other states.
Agree with you on home warranties. Realtors really push them when you buy a house and my experience matches what you said - the HW companies ALWAYS try to weasel out of paying a claim.
Or they refill a leaking R22 A/C because they don't cover refrigerant, and still don't fix the leak. Better spending that money towards a new A/C than refilling that old hunk of junk.
I've been the second opinion before behind home warranty contractors and subs. A woman was told she needed a whole new HVAC system when in fact all that was wrong was a small chaffed wire that needed to be repaired. Now I get calls from their friends and neighbors when HVAC work is needed. Honesty will actually cover up bad work better than lying. I personally suck at drywall work. So, I don't cut into walls unless I'm making a new spot for a line-set or electrical and don't have to repair. If major drywall needs to come down, I am up front with the customer and tell them a secondary professional is best to handle the drywall.
This guy absolutely is a joke. Being a hvac and plumbing business owner, I can't believe he had the nerve to do this. Wow people baffle me. Holy crap
I'm not a plumber, I'm a real estate agent. I've seen some really bad home warranty companies and some really good ones. For the Shark bites I use them for areas that are accessible. I would never use shark bites in a covered wall. The home owner should have sued the plumbing company that royal F$$$$$ them.
regardless of how trash of a service any plumbing mechanic is providing, it's not right to not get permission from the home owner before making a decision like cutting off water and handing a $8000 tab. Criminal
72 year of age, NEVER called a plumber, did all my pipe work myself and saved $ thousands...!
I know of bad plumbers like the one you’re talking about. I work out here in Arizona; I’m constantly cleaning up after bad plumbers!
Avoid the scammers folks!☝🏻
I'm no plumber but I know that visual NON INTRUSIVE inspection and a moisture meter would probably go a very long way. What a hack.
Yup, home warranty such a scam. We often get called in after a home warranty “plumber”. It’s a tough spot for a plumber on their own. Warranty company don’t pay good rates, pay late IF they pay, and no benefits. Yet somehow the warranty company try to hustle for lower rates. Glad We never got into their service traps.
Like RW said, don’t get a Home Warranty plan, save your money.
It's funny I came across this, I bought my first home (that I actually live in) 2 years ago and the fireplace was the first thing I called them about.. .they said they don't cover it so I've been thinking about canceling the service. I think it's about time to cut ties because in the 2 years I've owned the house I haven't used their service.
I work with home warranty companies I do think they are a ripoff to the customer most will only pay so much for say a slab leak they will only pay upto $500 to administer a leak detection, open up slab and repair leak. It takes more than that amount to repair a slab leak the home owner will have to pay for the rest. But there is one home warranty company I know of that will pay for it all but you have to have the right coverage
We had a home warranty through "Americas Choice" or something like that. Their thing was that you get to choose who works on the house. When I made a claim they sent very specific instructions to "not inform the plumber that it is a home warranty until they are at your house." Huge red flag. They tried to give me $300 for a water heater replacement, and then argued with the plumber about the age of the water heater.
USA the land of shittiest quality services for the highest prices in the western world. Maybe except UK.
Yup, save your money then you're only paying for the repair instead of paying for the repair plus the warranty company's overhead and profit. The repair people they send out work for the warranty company, not you, so they do what's best for the warranty company.
11 years in the trade and I'd say I'm so happy we have basements here in ny. We have amazing reviews and so happy to have you on here to reference your vids to our newer guys to help educate them beyond what we teach them. Thank you
Hey Rodger thanks for your videos they were a profound assistance to my life. I am 27 from California and I crushed my apprenticeship the quickest in company history I’m in the field on my own. Fortunately for me we do new construction and new plumbing so I have a better understanding on the way plumbing systems work. I watched all your videos & I see myself plumbing for 20-30 more years! I actually plan on moving to Dallas and working for you one day !
Great job! Mr. Sloan that is great to hear
Let’s give this man a big congrats! Keep up the good work!
Thanks again for your glorious channel .... soooo much info and education and you are a super communicator. Glad to have found the channel and subbed here. Hope your week is going just right!
Wow, thank you! Welcome aboard Thor
I know nothing about plumbing but love watching your vids! I live in the DFW area so I like hearing about local stories like this.
Thanks for sharing!
2:50 - Improperly installed even soldering will leak. I used SharkBites to great success cause I follow the correct procedures and I never install them in a hidden location.
I can already visualize that thing popping off in the middle of the night and I can hear the water shooting up like a busted fire hydrant. Oh man, the hair on my neck just stood up. 😬
Thank God I’ve never had to call anyone to fix anything. I do it myself.
Always be sure the person is licensed, bonded, and insured
I'm a sparky by trade. And my No1 rule was when buying my house. I want access above the ceiling and below the floor. Having a house on piles makes your life easier. But I cannot believe what they did...such a terrible situation to be in.
Yup I told m wife if we buy a house made before 1970. It better be Pier and beam😅
Nothing like cutting holes in my walls, but I had a plumber come in and scope out a drain because I had a backup. He told me it was a drain in the slab and it had to be jack hammered up. after jackhammering out 3 drains and the clog not going away, he proceeded to scope out further and found the pipe exiting the house (under my sidewalk) was collapsed and would cost an additional 8k in addition to the 6.5k for the mistake in the basement. GREAT Company. lifetime warranty on their work. And now they refuse to warranty the broken backflow preventor they installed and broke when they rescoped the line a year later (last week). This is the stuff that makes me despise trades . And this was a national plumbing company not some fly by night handy man.
Looks like homie cut with a sawzall and jammed them caps on cutting the o-rings
Thanks for telling this story, it’s a night mare!
That company is insane, thats a terrible scam
So called " plumbers " like this, are who give us good and honest plumbers a bad name. What an embarrassment.
I used to work for a company that did work for warranty companies ( 15 yrs ago ) and I didn't like it then. They don't approve anything, then you have to spend the next hour or two explaining to the homeowner that it's not just going to be the $75 deductible, but the additional x-amount of money. It's nothing but a huge headache.
This is why I love working for myself. I don't work for warranty companies. All of my customers are word of mouth. I'm honest, fair, I do each and every job as it were my own house or my mother's house, and I let my work speak for itself.
I don't understand how guy's like this can sleep at night doing stuff like this. I do know that I sleep very well at night, because I have no reason not to. God bless, have a beautiful day.
Great for you Steve ! I work for a company that works with home warranties, I’m usually the last plumber to be called out after some BS starts happening with other contractors smh Im the one who ends up saving the day. Sometimes I feel like I should be in a better position . But in all honesty we work for the customer and the home warranty second in my opinion.
I refuse to work for them.
I gave someone a quote to re route ½" copper lines. Homeowner said it was too expensive so he did it himself with sharkbites. 1 month later he had a massive leak in the wall due to a prv failure. He called me back & my response was " sorry I'm too expensive for you"
Man.. no matter what trade issues are going on in the house, you don't cut walls unless it's absolutely necessary.
Yep And always get approval from the homeowner before cutting! I’ve NEVER found a leak behind drywall on a slab house that didn’t already present itself before I got there, and always try to isolate the main line first. if I can’t, then I will just cut the water off and install a valve and just include it in the repair charge.
That plumber needs charging for the Damage and then locking up!
If you have a small slow leak and it’s in the right place drywall may not tell. That is why there is a $50 tool that all plumbers and most contractors should have; it’s called a moisture meter. You procedurally walk through the home, starting at any known walls with plumbing in them, and start checking the levels. If there is a leak, the moisture level may not be visually noticeable but it will show a decent jump in moisture within the materials.
Great video topic Roger. 2-3 years ago my son and his family were at our house for dinner. They went home and found water leaking in the basement laundry room ceiling (they have a Tri-level) and he called me. I told I’ll come one over. He said no I’ll turn the water off, come over in the morning. I went over, didn’t find any obvious leaks. Turned the water back on and walked the house. I heard water leaking in the wall behind the toilet. I pulled the toilet, cut open the wall, fixed the leak, dried out the framing and replaced the drywall and reinstalled the toilet. Where I live there is only 3 companies I would call for a plumbing problem. But if you can fix it yourself and can do it probably why not??? And I don’t like shark bites.I made sure my son and daughter both know where the water shutoff is, the gas shutoff, the furnace and water heater as well as the breakers. They both can do basic home maintenance and basic service on their cars. When they have a plumbing job to do I have always referred them to your channel. And they know when they are in over their head and to call a plumber, etc…
Hopefully that family gets everything back in order and compensated for the damage the so called plumber did.
Ron
Hello plumbing family. I have a question about an 3 handle valve for my shower.
I picked up a pfister yesterday. Seems to be ok for $115 at HD. The old Moen valve had 2 proprietary fittings on hot & cold.. im just realizing. Some weird union joints they don’t sell at any store.
I tried to use a 1/2 inch female adapter on hot & cold side.. I keep getting a leak out top of both 1/2 inch female adapters. Of course no leaks where I solderd below it…..
I’m using plumbers tape. No reason this should have a leak. Are you able to attach a sharkbite over previously solder’d copper?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
You know some of these problems lay at the feet of the plumbing code people who don't require access doors for manifolds. never made sense to me, not too mention this sound like plain out thief.
That first plumber was so clearly incompetent I'd be talking to a lawyer.
He probably doesn't have any money that you could collect in a judgement.
@@twatmunro I'm sure there are other ways to ruin a guy besides taking _money._
Scammers in all trades. Sad
I think the original problem is that the homeowner didn't know their plumber. The biggest joke on the internet is internet reviews.
I would argue the biggest scam are these plumbing companies that advertise a $99 drain cleaning but tell their mechanics-- um, salespeople-- to not leave the house without huge up sales that are unnecessary for the customer. They then compensate for bad reviews by investing huge sums in marketing people who are paid for nothing more than cleansing the reviews...all of which contributes to needing more and more money from even the most basic calls
Good luck finding me online, and even if you do, I doubt I will take the job because people who don't know you are the worst customers ever. Word of mouth will always be superior to internet, and frankly I don't do plumbing to get rich
Huge mistake. Today, marketing is critical and online/social media marketing is king. If you don't have a website, I ain't hiring the company. If there are spelling errors or a BS fluff website that has no real info, I ain't hiring the company. I want 4-4.5 star review profiles. That's how you can be comfortable knowing that the reviews are organic. 200 5 star reviews with 0 issues is usually people being offered an unwritten perk for a good review. I want to see a mixture where 6 people are extremely happy and overwhelmed with satisfaction, 3 are regularly satisfied and glad that they hired the company and will do so again, and 1 is annoyed or unhappy with some specific thing that is an understandable human error. I want to see 6 people super happy that an HVAC tech came out and honestly told them with a smile that the cap was bad or the condenser was dirty and charged a $75 service call fee for the 10 minute fix and left without scare tactics or ripoffs. 3 people who say the tech was 10 minutes late but did the same as above and they would call him back next time for sure. And finally, 1 person who said the tech installed starting components for a scroll that had a long line set and only 220v supply, but the 6 year old Chinese run cap failed a month later (not his fault) and the new start cap ran the compressor off the start winding alone and burned up the compressor leading to an expensive and messy burnout repair job. That right there is the profile of a good, honest, hard working tech. You can test a run cap and pass it one month, and the next it has shorted internally and is a direct passthrough which is not the tech's fault but the customer sees it that way regardless. If you don't do plumbing to get rich, whatever. I never met anyone who said "I don't want any extra money. I'm good with what I have. Extra money is not my thing."
I BELIEVE YOU ! We had ppls review us for our great work and we wouldn’t see our reviews pop up for some reason, call Yelp and asked them about the reviews not showing up (our customer showed proof of review being made) and yelp representative said we would have had to pay a premium to have our great reviews shared to the public… tbh I gave up cuz in reality I would never Pay lol real scammers are review company’s smh
I agree 100% depending on how big you’re trying to get.
I’ve stayed extremely busy on only word of mouth. You’d be surprised what a great marketing strategy it is to just provide professional, quality, and courteous service to people at a reasonable price . So many BIG plumbing companies charging people an arm and a leg for a simple job, *cough* Radiant *cough* and selling them things they don’t need.
Really great stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sounds like a big lawsuit right there.
I was a hand on one of those home warranty calls in Tarrant county. Lady stuffed a shampoo bottle in the bottom of her toilet and was all in hysterics about there being problems with something being inside the walls with the home warranty company on the phone. Master I had at the time was the LP on the call said "we out, this a trap"
I have a very small house and none of the plumbing goes into wall cavities, all through my crawl space. I am not a plumber, just DIY homeowner, and I plumbed this entire home, including a sediment filter, water softener, tankless hw heater and all the water supply lines with pex and sharkbite/quick fittings and have no issues at all.
I can't stress enough that I'm not a professional plumber, I don't expect these fittings to be perfect for 20 years. I do expect that I will have some leaks eventually, especially over winter, that I will need to tend to. But I live in the middle of nowhere and do all of this myself. I don't have the time or money to become a professional plumber and it wouldn't make sense because all of my water lines are in my crawl space or along my basement wall right next to a drain. If something goes wrong, it won't destroy my house.
If I was doing any plumbing inside of walls, I would without a doubt purchase a crimping tool and learn how to use the pex crimping rings.
I used to resist shark bites also. I have rigorously tested them. If theyre i stalled right, theyre pretty solid. I only install in places like crawlspaces or utility room. But man I really have never had an issue with them if you use them right. Its when you use and re use them time and time again. Ive worked in the US senate buildings and thats all we could use because of fire limitations. We used cases of them. No propress either because the spaces were too tight.
Wow! That is insane! What that first plumber did was completely unprofessional and that home warranty company must be trash.
We had a home warranty in the past for years, what I learned is that the issues that were more significant, the warranty company lacked integrity and competence. I cancelled the warranty service and started putting money away monthly for unexpected repairs. Boom! That has been such a game changer.
I work as a property adjuster we all use American Leak Detection. They're the best! Even contractors and plumbers here in Seattle use them also.
There are a lot of bad plumbers out there. My sister in law hired a guy to move a toilet and vanity. The hole for the flange is way oversized so he screwed a 2x4 under the flower and then he used 1.5" pipe for a wet vent from the toilet to the vanity. He's a nice guy but did crap work.
I used to hear the old plumbers say, pay me now or pay me more later to fix improper installation some other guy did, do it right the first time.
I’ve been in the plumbing field for around 26 years, I’ve done all aspects of residential plumbing including leak detection, we used various methods to locate slab leaks but mostly audio, sonar and therm imaging with varying levels of accuracy in each method. Accurately locating leaks under slabs takes skill and specialized equipment, I do not do it anymore. How ever blindly hacking into walls is stupid, if there is a leak in the wall the sheet rock will usually be wet and knocks differently. Floors would be wet. I have seen a few leaks though that ran down the pipe right into the slab and nothing collected above the floor. We have had jobs where a lot of holes were poked in walls for the endoscope before we found what we were looking for. I’ve probably about seen it all, lots of shoddy work, lots of shark bite repairs, hose clamps, flex seal, duct tape, jb weld. I will say shark bite fittings are great for testing or very temporary repairs. We once used dozens on one mobile home to hold the plumbing for a few weeks until we could get in there and do a proper re pipe. Gotta love that old poly butylene
Wow, what a horror story. Glad I'm in the trades and can spot a hack before they do their thing
That home owner should file a complaint with The Texas State Board of Plumbing Examiners (TSBPE). Plumbers like that have no business in the plumbing trade.
It's not so much the sharkbite that's the issue here. It's that he put them on K copper, which Sharkbite says they are not to be put on. K copper can be easily out of round, and the slightly larger diameter of the pipe can damage the o-ring seal in the fitting. Sharkbites are not always bad, but you must know where and when it is right and reasonable to use one.
Where are the stipulations written for these plumbing fittings ?
Type K copper is the same outside diameter as Type L, or M.
Type K has a thicker, stronger wall, why would it be more easily out of round than other types of copper?
Since type K is thicker, that means it's heavier per foot, which means it's more expensive, why would they be using type K in residential plumbing where type L would be more than adequate?
Are you sure you know what you're talking about?
Both L and K copper can be obtained in either hard drawn or annealed. Hard drawn K copper is very rarely used either above or below ground. Annealed K copper is very commonly used in underground installation. Sharkbite's are not to be used on annealed copper due to it being slightly larger outside diameter, and that it can very easily be deformed due to bending. Hard drawn K copper is very difficult to bend
@@dnelson9529 So what you mean to say is that the pipe being annealed is the issue, and not because it's type K.
Type k has the *exact* same OD as Type L or M, that's why the same fitting works- assuming everything is within tolerance.
If that's what you meant, than I would have to agree with you.
@@MrDflores1 try putting a 1/2" sharkbite on first on hard drawn and then annealed copper and see what happens. Then take a sharbite that is meant for PB pipe and do the same thing. It will be loose and leak on the hard drawn, and then fit tight on the annealed. The OD is not the same. But even if the PB sharkbite fits, the annealed can be out of round and not seal to the o-ring. Most of the charts showing diameters and wall thickness are inaccurate, and also do not differentiate between hard drawn and annealed.
No way they’re in business to make money???? How dare they! Unbelievable.
Call the state plumbing board and report the problems and get them involved also
Warranty companies don't cover anything outside the main foundation
That plumber saw on elder person and decided to rip him off. Plain and simple. Sue that guy.
Geez, a guy has one bad day...
Spot on about home warranties, the repair person works for the warranty company, not you! They are doing what's best for the warranty company, NOT what's best for you!
At our previous house the tree grew into the main water line and caused a leak. The city notified the current home owner that the meter showed constant usage. Contractor came out with a mini ex and started digging without locating utility lines first. The plumber had dug into a 2” gas line that shut down part of the subdivision. Fire dept, gas company, and a bunch of others showed up. Gas company has to dig on either side of the lot to pinch off the gas line. They then dug a 50” trench to replace the damaged line and fuse it back together. A different plumber had to come and then dig a new trench to the house and set a new meter pit as the tree roots had gotten into the street side of the meter..I am so glad that I had sold that house 5 years ago and wasn’t stuck dealing with that nightmare. Our previous neighbor said the gas leak sounded like a freight train horn whistling and the smell was overwhelming. In 30 years of doing electrical construction I’ve seen some horrible work done by so called “tradesmen” but your video is up in the top 10 of clusters. Contractor probably doesn’t have insurance or a license. Legal process won’t get much out of a turd like that.
I am a Swedish roofer. I did my plumbing my self 4-8 years ago. Showers, Bathrooms, Radiators, Added Air/Water (Outside unit) to my heating system etc etc. And guess no leaks.. This guy did not know what he was doing and did not read anything about plumbing before going in to this kind of work.
The sharkbite caps were probably installed wrong. I never had a cap leak during a test situation.
Licensed plumbing contractor here. I don't like Shark bites. I have seen too many failures.. However... nearly all failures I have seen were not installed properly! I occasionally use them, but am super careful to clean and lube the pipes every time. I found out not too long ago that the original MAPP gas has been phased out and replaced with something newer that barely makes more heat than propane. Makes proper sweating much more difficult than before, especially on larger pipe and fittings
im wondering why they thought it was a good idea to use a sawsall on drywall
Thanks the Texas Plumbing Board. When they changed it from master , journeyman and apprentice. To having fifteen different stages of licensing, and being able to pay people to take there class to pass the exam. That’s where plumbing we bad. I’ve been doing plumbing for thirty five years and owned a company for twenty. Gods blessings to each of y’all 🙏🏽
I was told once “Common sense ain’t something everyone was born with.”
I used to work for Rapid Plunbing. They were dirty as hell! I had to find a problem even if there wasn't one.
I’ve had 2 separate leaks in the slab on the hot side only. For a few weeks one random spot in the kitchen, the tile was nice and warm. 2 weeks later the smell of mildew started and the baseboards started to crumble.
It was a pinhole leak in the 3/4 copper tubing working it’s way through the concrete.
Both times I used a sharkbite for the night to temp stop the leak, the next day I cut both ends of the copper tube and fished a 1/2” PEX-A through and attached it.
Lasted over 3 years till I did a remodel.
Obviously there is a little bit of volume loss but it was way better than opening walls and ripping up the floor. Woulda been 5000$+. Instead it cost 200$ in parts and tools. I’m an electrician whose done lots of plumbing but I in no way claim to be an expert.
This plumber is either corrupt or incompetent.
Great video.
I got a service call where a customer had another company Jack hammer 2 holes in slab. They couldn’t find the leak.
I did a walk through and found a running toilets, fixed it meter stopped spinning
Welcome to Texas, where every utility is a scam
Ive had a home remodel company go bankrupt after we had to get an attorney involved, because they did all the plumbing without permits, then punched holes in the foundation to run sink drains to instead of into the septic tank, then sprayed knocked down all inside our electrical boxes, all over the doors, light switches, etc. The attorney and the owner set it all straight, but it took so long and cost so much to fix all the mistakes the company was no longer solvent.
I never had a home warranty. I usually fix stuff myself. Except after I had prostate cancer surgery 4 months ago at age 70, I accidently dropped my leak pad (TMI Alert) in the toilet while it was flushing. I called the "four-plus-star-Yelp" plumbing company to unclog my system. The serviceman came out and removed the clog using an electric powered snake and left it in the 3' high crawlspace, and not put it in the bag I provided. I showed him the cleanout, but he didn't believe me at first until it took him 15 minutes to figure that out. I had to go afterwards and clean up the messes, including the one the plumber left while dragging the Foley bag in the dirt of the crawlspace!
REALLY THANKS ROGER FOR POINTING OUT THE SCUM, THIEVES ARE THIEVES EVEN IF THEY KNOCK ON YOUR FRONT DOOR
This man solely lives to hate shark bites 🤣🤣🤣
As a handyman I fully know when to call an expert like a plumber or electrician
when i have people in the house to fix/check stuff
im usually pretty involved socially with them lmao
i would absolutely not allow my walls to be choppedup at random
I am way more mellow and controlled now that I’m older but if this guy would’ve done that to my first house when I was in my early 30s he would’ve had to have hoped he could’ve gotten the cops to show up or got into his vehicle before I got to him with the proverbial “ pair of pliers and a blow torch”. I saved for years to get into that home and would have been lit!😧
I am a foreman at a commercial plumbing division of a General Construction company in Ontario Canada. I've never seen anything so ridiculous, and I've seen some stuff. I feel bad for this family, and I hope the insurance this "plumber" has covers the damages to the home. SharkBite's are only allowed for us if it is an exposed line (NOT IN A WALL ) and temporary for something like a pressure test. That being said, the pipe has to be cut square and chamfered/deburred with the correct tool. Marking a line on the pipe for the correct seating depth on those sharkbites is also 100% necessary. Looks like this jimmy cut the lines on a 45 degree angle with a Sawzall which probably did not help the situation with the caps.
I have done home warranty work but I stopped because they are a scam to us in the field and to customers. First, they only allow a certain amount let's say $1500 for the year a repair. Well, most repairs will go over that amount in the first visit. It's rare that you stay under that amount. Second, is the time it takes for the home warranty company to cut us a check for the job we did. Some times it takes 30 days if we are lucky or 60 days after the job is completed. So, we literally pay customers to fix their issues that's going on until we receive a check back from the company. Every time I would go to a customer home I would tell them not to start adding a whole bunch of things to the list of repairs because the warranty company will decline your service. Instead I would give them the same advice save the monthly fee and save it and when some does break down the road you have that money. It may not cover 100% of the repair but at least it will cover some of it.
that is where i would use my stethoscope. works every time
I agree with Roger, If you use Sharkbite as a permanent solution, then you're not a real plumber.
My question is who gave Authorization to cut and cap every Manifold to do a leak test a simple isolation test would have identified a exterior issue this contractor should be sued for incompetence and the technician should be sent back to school
when i moved into my new house, i put some dishes in the dishwasher and set it to start. i came back in like two hours seeing that it was finished, and i opened it up and there was no hint of water in it, and my silicone spatula was on the bottom of the basin, touching the heating element, and with a big black burn mark on it. i thought maybe they just forgot to turn on the water supply, so i went under the sink to turn on the water to the dishwasher and ran it again. this time water started coming out from underneath the dishwasher. we called the builder of the house, and it turns out the guy who installed the dishwasher never connected the drainage line to the dishwasher and it was just sitting underneath the dishwasher while it dumped drainage water on my wood floor 🙃
I am a plumber and in San Antonio TX all I can say is not surprising here. I do most of the slab leak for my 75 year old co and I use shark bite for testing only it saves time. But I was told that you test yard away from home first thing
Residential maintenance
I can find a leak by looking and feeling the wall is will feel cold and the poke test and a moisture detector as a back up just to be sure
I hate cutting open the wall
What is the issue with shark bite caps? I’m not a full time plumber by any means, but doing basic plumbing, I’ve never had any issues with them.
Same here.
Plumber here in Indiana and I hate home warranty companies
If you cut into my walls like that, you're facing criminal prosecution. Just saying.
There is always a process of elimination to be followed when identifying a fresh water leak.
1.) Open meter lid and verify the meter is spinning.
2.) If there's a sprinkler system, shut off the double check valve, therefore eliminating/identifying the sprinkler system as the source of the leak.
3.) If there's a valve box at the house, check for moistuer in or near the box, as that is often a place where a leak can occur, if there's no moisture present, shut the valve off, thus eliminating/identifying the yard line as the culprit.
4.) Shut the water to the water heater off, if that stops the meter you have a hot side slab leak.
5.) Do a careful inspection of the brick around the outside of the home, and see if any water is coming out over the slab through a weep hole, as a busted pipe supplying a hose bib could be the issue.
If everything above is completed and the meter is still spinning, it's definitely time for a plumber to come out and find the leak, and honestly, you'd need one anyway, because even if you can identify that it's a hot side leak for example, you still need a licensed professional to actually listen and locate where under the slab the leak is, and determine if a penetration repair or tunneling repair is necessary. Also, it should be noted that cutting holes in walls and cutting manifolds apart is a last resort to find a leak. It is sometimes necessary, but typically only for really small leaks, or leaks that could be in a beam and are very difficult to try and hear with Gen-Ears or Big Foot Ears.
Everybody knows Big Foot is in the A/C, Heating business... I not falling for that. You had me for a second there.
But seriously. Great information. Let's not forget that if the water shut off valves at the house or the water heater are multi-turn instead of ball valves, they can start leaking when you turn them and not stop leaking until they are replaced. They can also turn off and never turn back on again. And they sometimes fail to completely turn off all the way which can result in a misdiagnoses.
I live in apart of the country were I’ve never seen more than half what you wrote.
All we got here is a meter, shut off, pipe under the house. No, pipes in the walls either.
@@eggmanfryer Yup, came for a ice maker line leak, ended up replacing the shut-off valve and another foot of pipe. EVERYthing was falling apart.
A big 👍 for the mustache !!!! It's fucking great 😃👍 !!!!
I used a plumber from Dubs in Oracle Arizona. He was very good. I only needed him for the sewer part.. He actually found an error in the washing machine drain and fixed it. I had replumbed everything with Pex pipe and never had a problem with any of it in the last six years now. Pex Pipe is the easiest way to replumb. Total cost was less then $500.00.I have no items of plumbing in the concrete floor only the sewer part of the system. all my fresh water system is in the attic.
I think the first plumbing company did a damn good job, I don't care what you say Roger. As for what I do for a living, I'm a sales rep for a drywall supplier based out in San Antonio TX.
Lmao
Well then your business is booming!
Well played.
I hope he gets fired and get his license revoked
0:57 "I don't like home warranty companies. They're just in business to make money". Isn't that the point of owning a business? Why do you have a business?
Well I do work in Puerto Rico and for some reason 20 years ago some one thought that sch 20 pvc was a good way to do all the plumbing in a house and copper only for hot water line if you had hot water lines i more or less see the shower head heaters also for some reason non of the glue joints have primer hell you have a 1 in 50 store may sell primer like its plumbing hell here