The Race To Fix A Broken System "Before Disaster Strikes Again" | Mayday: Science of Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2023
- System Breakdown also looks into the future - and takes viewers on an FAA test flight with NextGen - an all-new, digital air traffic control system that will revolutionize the airline industry. The race to fix a broken system is on -- before disaster strikes again.
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From Season 2 Episode 1 "System Breakdown": Clear communication is essential to safe flying. When it doesn’t take place - disaster strikes. System Breakdown revisits five pivotal aviation disasters - and charts the changes they’ve forced air traffic controllers to make.
On June 30, 1956, two planes collide over the Grand Canyon shortly after taking off from Los Angeles International Airport. At the time it was the worst commercial air disaster in history. The crash puts pressure on the U-S government to overhaul the fledgling industry. As a result, the FAA is created, the American airspace is blanketed by radar, and air traffic control as we know it is born.
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What episodes would you like to see on the OFFICIAL Mayday: Air Disaster channel?
Plane crash investigation
All of them please.
Cleared for Disaster
The one that the Iranians shot down (years later)
_Fatal Climb_ about TAROM flight 371.
Mayday is addictive
I have binge watched Mayday many, many times!
Agreeed😅
Ikr😂
Sounds like ur all saying it’s entertainment. Using words like addictive and binging. What its really about is life saving education that costs many the ultimate price
I thought I was the only one lol
How could any pilot not just say, "I'm out of gas, get my ASS down"! That' universal language! Db
7700, emergency fuel.
The really sad thing about the Avianca disaster is, the fact that the co-pilot communicating with ATC remained so calm and professional may have contributed to the issue.
If he'd dropped the "please" and "thank you" and gone "Look bucko, this bird is out of gas and going down *now,* either on a runway of your choosing or downtown NY!" they might have understood the severity of the issue.
The issue wasn't how calm or collected the flight crew was; it was the lack of the word "emergency."
"Our fuel is low" tells controllers that you should be moved up in the queue for landing.
"Emergency. Our fuel is low" tells controllers that you need to go to the front of the queue, and a runway needs to be cleared for you immediately.
The pilots are trained to be calm in dangerous situations. The Mayday Mayday Mayday fuel was not used nor did they use the word emergency. Make them a priority was used instead. This term is not recognized by English speaking countries as an emergency.
@@sharmilasoomair568 And English is the mandatory language of the airline industry, as is the imperial system of measurements. Maybe, just maybe you make sure your pilots know the language and if nothing else, know the protocols! Mayday is universal. I don't care if they were from a foreign country, they should be taught the correct words to use when flying. It doesn't matter what the word priority means in your language, the airline industry term is Mayday. Period.
@@thebirdee55 It also seems that the Avianca captain was not fluent in english and depending on the first officer for communications. Red flag right there.
@@helenafranzen9828and he is allowed to fly on international flights is outrageous. He should have been only allowed to fly within mexico
Something I’ll never say about a video on this channel: “Wow! I’ve never seen this one before!”
and yet here i am .... again
I haven't seen this one so I'm stoked
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Maybe telling ATC that their aircraft computer was telling them the opposite than him. It might have got ATC to tell them to pull up instead of descend. Communication is vital in these situations.
No kidding!
Correct.. especially if it cannot ascertain the altitude of the planes around to avoid mid air collision
The law now is that if TCAS and ATC give conflicting information TCAS takes priority, no questions asked; and report to ATC once the situation is cleared. It is specifically that midair collision that made it be this way now.
Source: Mentour Pilot video on that accident.
Huh, thankfully they're actually putting up new content instead of just repeating the same 4 episodes....hopefully this continues
translation = "hopefully, more airlines crash so Mayday can continue releasing episodes!"
@@teekydeeky translation: "i hope this channel will upload more than just the same four episodes out of the already existing over 200 episodes"
@@kais3297 are u intentionally being obtuse
@@teekydeeky i could ask the same from you
@@kais3297 I was. Yes.
Every improvement in air and road safety is written in blood and marked b y gravestones of innocent passengers and thousands of tons of cargo.
I really like these type of videos. Discussing a certain problem and using examples of flights impacted by the problem. Please make more of these.
Ahh yes we need fresh material...😅😅
They may have just released this video, but it's a remake of an old episode.... ADS-B has been mandatory for all commercial aircraft since January 2020
Yup. When he said Next gen system, it sounded similar to ADSB. I was wondering if he would say ADSB and lo and behold, he did. But Yea ADSB OUT is mandatory, but not ADSB in. But our flight schools planes have ADSB In as well. Honestly, without it, I don't know how I'd spot traffic. And this episode isn't a remake. It's the original that came out in June 10, 2009
I love…and admire John Nance.. He’s smart, and trustworthy… and knows what he’s doing. ❤
He's my favorite in these videos. Intelligent man that doesn't speak down when explaining concepts.
The only way to lead to few accidents is when, airlines and governments stop putting cost above safety. Yes I know flying is safe, but look what we just went through with Boeing.
The ADS-B is now used world wide to enchance ATC decission making abilities and traffic management. It's amazing to see how far technology advanced and see the changes of safety and standards aviation. Its also hard to accept that some of these lessons were written in blood.
I am surprised that Air safety boards took so long to introduce this system. In Maritime industry we have a similar system called AIS. It helps the navigators to see another vessel, its destination & its intended path basis its present course even when its not on the Radar screen. This has been operational since I joined sea in 2005.
I always thought the air traffic systems are much advanced than maritime industry. It seems i was wrong!
that may be true, but your industry also has no form of crew resource management on the bridge when it desperately should, and your epirbs don't work as well as black boxes do
My guess is it has to do with having to track aircraft in three dimensions rather than just two.
Ships move very slow. Tracking them is very easy.
Most countries do not own ships.
@God-mb8wi First, we do have CRM. Second, EPIRBS aren't black boxes. They are just position indicating beacons.
@goo1358 Most countries don't own ships! What that has to do with tracking them.
Second, slow or fast its a radio and satellite based system. It has to be due to some other reason.
Midair and fire always at the back of my mind. Two things that could not be controlled. Now a ADSB controls the midair.
For those saying this video must be 20-30 years old, the episode is from 2003. So, 19 years. 30 is a bit steep, as I'm 33, grew up watching TV in my early years of course, and the film style is NOTHING like the early 90s.
Yeah whoever said 30 years probably doesn’t even know what dial up was haha
@@SEAN6BT They're lucky not to have grown up watching X-files and Star Trek: Voyager in delightfully grainy, 16-pixel quality. (a dark scene arrives) "Gasp! I can ALMOST see what the characters are doing!"
@@BigGrabowski Hahah totally 🤣 or going to channel two to watch what was on each channel as it slowly rolled through haha
@@BigGrabowskii used to watch voyager grainy back then. Janeway would put Picards pretentious ass in his place
I can't stop watching so interesting.
I would've thought a system like this would've existed for years by now. How hard can it be to put the controllers information into the pilots computer? All these incredible inventions and breakthroughs in the last 10 years or so, motion tracking and VR and everything else, and they still haven't made a system like that?
ATC in Brazil is comparable to USA in the 1950’s. Reminds me of TWA Constellation and UAL DC-7 over the Grand Canyon👨✈️
43:04 I believe this is the flight where the father of one of the victims stabs the controller to death in front of his family
Correct. Vitaliy Xaloyev went and knocked on the door of Peter Nielsen, 2 years after the crash. Xaloyev introduced a small knife into Nielsen's abdomen. Jury eventually declared him not guilty for reasons of insanity
Wow
Normal procedure in Brazil! TCAS is mandatory there👨✈️
I'm ready to fly an airplane after watching this series 🗣️
I can't believe that control guy let that plane run out fuel and crash, with an air port rite below the plane, he was told in plain words his fuel is running out, that's unecceptable !
14:41 approach controller *Walter White* guides Aero *Mexico* for a landing that sounds so much famiiar
Yeah, he needs to be BREAKING BAD habits so that he improves at his work!
I hope this system will be very helpful, remembering the crash of the DHL cargo plane and the Russian passenger plane collided because the controller Peterson was overwhelmed and alone.
The system is already out and became mandatory in 2020 and is being used. It's not called Next Gen though, it's called ADSB. I literally use it all the time to help me spot traffic. It shows their position and altitude ON THE PLANE. Planes are required to have ADSB out which sends their position and altitude, however, ADSB IN is still not required, which is the system that shows other planes nearby and their altitude, in the cockpit
An interesting and informative video.
Have something almost exactly the same on my boat. Surprised this took so long to make it to air.
Crashes happen. That's the way it's always been, and the way it always will be. Cheers!
Brilliant 👏
Explanation excellent 👍
That has to be a calming as flying into hurricane
The FAA introduces the TCAS only after an accident happens. With all the safety precautions in place humans will still crash into one another, this goes especially for cars.
The computers can't come too soon. Too many people are incompetent drivers
In my opinion, TCAS was the greatest advance in air safety until this system come along?👨✈️
14:40 Jesse, JESSE! What part of flight level 6000 did you not understand!
Sure, let's minimize the distance between landing planes. Oh, and wake turbulence sends its greetings
i just recognized the air traffic controller from 0:39 is the same guy from the AA587 plane crash investigation
This will definitely help mid air collision in future
Lmao dude ADSB Out became mandatory especially in busier airspace in 2020. It sends the position and altitude of planes that have the system, to controllers and other planes, who have ADSB In equipped in their planes. ADSB out sends position, altitude, and other data, ADSB In shows the position of nearby planes and altitudes in the cockpit. I literally use ADSB all the time to spot traffic. Believe me even with ADSB, things haven't changed. Pilots especially private pilots still be causing near accidents all the time, and alot of them don't have ADSB IN either
Oh dang I’ve never seen one of this this early
Seeing that FAA jet flying near you would probably be just like being followed by a cop lol
With all the threats to GPS expressed by world powers, I hope the radar systems are maintained and upgraded as a backup.
Does ADSB use GLONASS and BEIDOU in addition in other parts of the world?
No..ADSB I think is an US/Canada only system atm as far as I'm aware. Im reliant on ADSB now because its the only way I can spot traffic around me
On all of these videos, it's always stated that the flight crew has a heavy work load. So you're suggesting adding another factor to that? Is another person going to be added to watch this screen?
Such a sad story 🙏
It's a key piece for the future because it expands government's ability to know where everybody is. I think that is the main idea here.
The ability to employ the assistance of computers to HELP make decisions is a good idea because they are filled with stored information and they are fast. But to completely turn air traffic control over to machines - AI or otherwise - is madness, whether the controls are on board planes, in the towers, or both. There will ALWAYS be scenarios in which humans beings will be a necessity in making choices or having to manually fly a plane. The technocrats who are pushing this idea have an agenda, because if they have half a brain, they know it's a bad idea to turn planes over completely to machines. There have already been incidents of severe problems with onboard computers taking control of airplanes, and some have crashed and killed passengers. A few incidents where the pilots managed to wrestle the plane manually had better conclusions. Letting computers decide and control also opens an opportunity for evil hackers to do bad things. I really don't embrace the idea of a computer making decisions for me that could result in death.
In other words, the exact same reason there are still pilots in spite of the sophistication of automatics: Any aircraft equipped with a modern autopilot and auto throttle is basically capable of taxi, takeoff, flight, and landing without human intervention, and in theory, could do it better than a human. Like you said, they're faster than humans and know more than humans.
How many of you have had your computer malfunction in the middle of an important presentation? Working just fine, and then kaput? How many of you know someone that happened to?
The difference is that when your computer fails in the middle of an important presentation, your audience does not then become a smoking hole in the ground.
Knowing what I know now is the reason I don't have a lot of faith in fly-by-wire, and why I think replacing the flight engineer with a computer was ultimately a bad decision: In either case, the computer's decisions are only as good as the data it receives from its sensors. The human is at least able to then take data from other sources and make decisions of that instead.
You mean the Maxes where the pilots didn’t bother to learn about the planes they were carrying people on? Despite the information being in the manuals from Boeing if they didn’t just do the bare minimum of reading their Airline’s prescribed manuals that didn’t mention the new systems at all. The new systems the pilots would have fully understood had they read the actual manual for the plane instead of being lazy and dumb?
Those crashes, that were caused by the pilots having the standard industry negligence towards competency and safety.
Yeah, can’t imagine why I wouldn’t want to fly with some idiot who can barely handle flying a Cessna “but dis wub hib dweam!”
Maybe if there weren’t so many incompetent pilots people would actually trust flying with human pilots. But most pilots know how to take off and turn on the autopilot. It’s the most dangerous form of travel, and for anyone who disagrees I’ll just wait to hear all your stories about playing in thunder storms because “you’re more likely to get hit by lightning!”
Y’know, that thing we all go inside to avoid when we see.
Just think about if someone shuts this system off on a busy day.
Foreign power or hackers start fuxking with this system
@@TheOriginalCFA1979 waffle is all your spouting
I don't get the bit about the government knowing where everyone is at all. Planes are already tracked, they submit flight plans and usually have radar already as well as their flights and conversations being recorded. This is essential on planes, so it feels irrelevant to bring up anything about 'government surveillance conspiracy' bs on plane videos.
A couple problems, what happens if there is no satellite visibility? What happens if the area has no satellite coverage for any period of time? What happens in the event of an emergency where a pilot immediately begins following checklist items and deviates from expected by other pilots? What happens if there is a mixture of these issues simultaneously?
What happens if the system is hacked by terrorist?? Just another question,
@@scottbowles9574 That’s the BIGGEST question.!!!!
Everything that goes up must come down. How are they going to avoid private planes that have nothing except VFR. Small planes fly all over the place and many with no flight plans because like in our state there are many small state run airports where there are no controllers and people fly in and out at their desire. I think its a great Idea for the new system, but I think of the small planes being like a flock of birds, when you are descending and they are under you, how are you and them going to take appropriate evasive action; remember they have no radio, just a map and a view out the window.
Just fall back on your previous systems? Like radio, holding patterns and landing patterns.
@@marcomoreno6748 But that will be considered a secondary system so may not be available for use as it is no longer an essential system and can be down pending fix
17:35 *_"The National Transportation Safety Board questions Walter White about what he saw on his radar display."_*
Wait. WHAT?! WALTER WHO?
*_Breaking Bad theme plays._*
What do viewers want to see? More recent episodes or those which reflect incidents from twenty first century. To uninformed passengers and those who dont fly often, they may not understand how much has changed in past 20 years in all elements of aviation/aviation safety world wide.
Isn’t NextGen system already available in form of Flight Tracker etc?
Flight trackers use the data from ADSB and radar although mostly ADSB Out now. Which basically is next gen so yes you're right, flight trackers use the next gen system, although it's not called Next gen. I didn't even know the original name was next gen until this video. It's just called ADSB. It operates as both transponder and ADSB at the same time. There are two ADSB, ADSB IN and ADSB OUT. ADSB out is mandatory which sends out position and altitude reports along with other data like speed. It's required. ADSB In, is a display in the flight deck, which shows nearby planes position and altitude, relative to you. I use it every day to help me spot traffic. But airliners, don't even use ADSB IN, meaning they don't have the system equipped to see other planes near them. As far as I know, and rely on controllers to help separate them from other planes
I feel so bad for the flight controller.
He was a victim
And he was killed for the mistake of being alone handling flights
I cried for the children on Tupolev. How sad.
I've had more flight nightmares than the average!Lost luggage twice.Forced to sleep on floors in the airport due to cancelations twice. 4 layovers due to weather and whatever other exuse 8 hrs 6 hrs 2- 4 hourers.reroted to another airport w/a further del twice!
Walter White aka Heisenberg 😂
The date when this episode was created would be important. Not the date it was uploaded.
Did this air 10 years ago? Kinda important.
It aired on June 2009. Next gen or now referred to as ADSB, is already out and became mandatory in 2020. Planes now must have ADSB that senda out their position and altitude. That's how flight trackers have the information of planes online in the first place. ADSB IN, is not required, but it's a system in the plane itself which shows pilots nearby planes position and altitudes. Our planes where I train in have it, so I can see all the nearby planes around me and help avoid them. ADSB has saved my life twice already, but it hasn't made air traffic safer really. Airliners don't even have ADSB IN which means they can't see nearby planes around them in their flight deck, they only send out their position and altitude to others. Most private pilots don't have ADSB IN in their planes either, only ADSB out. So Yea, nothing has changed drastically.
@@davidt8087 Thanks
Me, sitting in my Cessna 208 in MSFS, pleased to have GPS and ADS-b. 😊
Yea wow so cool, you need ADSB in a game. Lmao
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Anyone remember the episode from Breaking Bad where the exact same thing happened to one of the air traffic controllers? Jenny's Dad. Walter White was the name of the main characters (Bryan Cranston)
Can the controller tower Have TCAS IN the Tower also to Help the pilot ?
It's called STCA, and for Peter Nielsen it was temporarily out of order due to maintenance
No, TCAS is old, outdated, short range, and only meant to help the planes avoid each other in the last few moments. It's not useful for air traffic control. ADSB which was mentioned on this video is already out and became mandatory in 2020. Our planes have it and we can see the position and altitude of other planes on a map while flying
It's already on our phones
2009.
This video most be 30 pluse years old cuz that is now required for ALL aircraft flying in the USA
Yes it came out in 2009. ADSB has saved my life before from a clueless unaware pilot who flew right in my path, and if I didn't notice him on the ADSB, we'd be in a mid air collision. ADSB really hasn't helped make the skies safer. And as far as I'm aware, I haven't seen ADSB in, in any airliner cockpit yet. So airline pilots still rely on controllers for spacing
Sounds like Waze for the skies
However the controllers seats never moves.
This content is really old but is presented as if it is new.
I hope VOR’s are not Deactivated, in case GPS satellite system disappears?
VORs are still used, though outdated af
Ayy an episode I haven’t watched.
i have seen this one
FYI this must be 20-30 years old, ADSB has been implemented for years and is required for all commercial aircraft.
Lmao I know. When the narrator mentioned Next gen, I was like, he can't possibly be talking about ADSB, as it's already out, but lo and behold Next gen was ADSB. I was surprised. I thought ADSB was a much older technology. But nope. It became mandatory to have ADSB out in 2020. Although so many private pilots have planes without ADSB In, so they can't see planes near them without actually spotting them or being told by ATC. Even with ADSB, near accidents in the air, haven't decreased honestly. I see insane private pilots flying rifht in the path of us completely oblivious, all the fkn time. If I didn't have ADSB In, idk how I'd spot traffic or avoid it. ADSB In has saved my life more than once. I'm not even joking. So next gen does work, but only tk those who have both ADSB IN and OUT.
Btw. I don't think airliners have ADSB In. I've never seen the system in the cockpits of airliners. At best they have TCAS. Which smaller GA planes don't I think. I'm also positive most larger airliners don't have ADSB IN?
They got suckered in to this situation! Should have diverted to Dulles or???👨✈️
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Unfortunately, most advances in technology are made due to fatal accidents.
This looks magnificent on paper and in test. But no mention was made of safeguards against hackers or DOS attacks. So what’s to protect the flying public from a nut job or a mad Russian hacker?
Russian hacker? There are no murican hackers, or chinese, or european?
@@dado-7775 some and some are good. But none as good as the Russians
This is an old video ADSB has been implemented for a while and hasn’t been hacked. Should it go down, all controllers and pilots are trained to deal with it
@@BernoullisBiggestFan that’s good to know
@@johndavis6119 Hi John, I appreciate when someone outwit me. But some of that comes with age ;) cheers buddy!
Thank God for Flightradar24
Flightradar gets their info from the nextgen system which is shown IN THIS EPISODE. It's not called next gen, it's called ADSB, and it has saved my life once before by helping me spot a reckless pilot flying in my path, on the map in my trianjng plane long before I actually saw him. It's made flying safer (for those who have ADSB In equipped letting them see nearby planes on a map in the cockpit). Before, if a controller told you to look for traffic, youd have to spend quite some time looking. And smaller planes are harder to track, now, if you're plane had ADSB, you can actually know where to look because it shows on the map their Location and altitude. ADSB overall hasn't made the sky any safer or less safe. Airliners still don't have ADSB IN meaning airline pilots can't see the position and altitude of other planes on their cockpit. Older planes and private planes also don't really have that system. Only ADSB out became mandatory in 2020, which just sends out the planes position and altitude, but doesn't let the pilot see the position and altitude of other planes which is called ADSB IN.
More tech, more capacity, better control, still accidents happen.
The days "breaking news" came with music. Lol
Hind sight may not be 20-20
NEXT GEN AKA ADSB became mandatory literally in 2020
The crash that changed aviation forever
Allmost episode says that😆
Virtually every crash changes aviation forever.
@@sundarchip exactly
@@sundarchip Too bad they still can’t make it safe.
The plane has to have two pilots but ATC can be a single person? 🤔
Not all planes need two pilots. Your thinking of large airliners
Bruh walter white
Too many airplanes are flying.
Seems a reduction in numbers could save lives, too
The airport's proper name is "Idlewild". We, the American people have never accepted its name change to "J.F.K.".
Speak for yourself. JFK is fine by me.
Where's Kennedy Steve???????
but no new episodes
“Airplane people”?!
Global 7000
I think it alread exists.....it´s called flight radar 24.
Uhm. No. Flight radar gets the information of planes position and altitude, from you guessed it, next gen, aka ADSB which is what it is called now and was discussed in this episode. It became mandatory in 2020 in the US for all planes to send out their position and altitude, but not for them to be able to see the position and altitude of nearby planes in their cockpit. ADSB has saved my life already by helping me spot a plane in thr display in my plane well before I saw him helping Me avoid a mid air collision with a careless pilot in the last few seconds. ADSB hasn't really made the skies safer overall. Most planes don't have ADSB IN, meaning they don't have a display in the cockpit showing nearby planes position and altitude, they only have ADSB out which sends out their position and altitude to controllers. Other planes, and flight trackers such as the one you mentioned. Most if not all airlines, also don't have ADSB IN, meaning airline pilots STILL can't see the position and altitude of nearby planes in the cockpit and still rely on controllers
14:42 Walter White xD
It is all about speed and greed. Airplanes pushed ocean liners to the point of extinction. In the United States buses were next to go. Trucks and trains, however, are still economical for cargo but trains in the United States for passenger service is a shadow of what it was in the pre-1960s. Answer, reduce flights and increase train and bus service.
1/114 Americans will die in a car wreck, 1/1M Americans will die in a plane wreck.
That's not an answer, as it does not account for the fact that airplanes can go to places that trains and automobiles cannot.
Critically, an airport in a remote location provides a practical way for both people and cargo to travel to and from that location, whatever the reason may be. If you're going to do it with trains, you need to have rails run past that location. Those rails have to be manufactured, and then installed, and then maintained. How many miles of rail do you need for that? How much will that cost? The ground that the rails are laid on has to be prepared; it may need to be leveled or removed. What will be the environmental impact of that? What if there's a mountain in the way? How many additional miles of rail do you need to divert around it? How much will that cost? How much dynamite do you need to blast a tunnel through it? What will be the environmental impact of that?
The same considerations exist for roads.
What is the cost of an airport in a remote location? Less than roads and rails. What is the environmental impact of an airport in a remote location? Less than roads or rails. What is the challenge of maintaining an airport in a remote location? Less than roads or rails. What is the transit time to or from an airport in a remote location? Less than roads or rails. What is the danger posed to humans by an airport in a remote location? _Less than roads or rails._
There is no scenario here where air travel is not the clear and superior choice.
wow what say
Definitely need passenger trains with the size of our country. I’d take a train over a plane, any day. Unfortunately, due to the lack of monetary incentives and slow returns, practical train travel is not thought worthy of the interest of any billionaires or the devastatingly in debt govt. With the fossil fuel issues however, we seriously must look at and develop, electric/magnetic trains nationwide. Fossil fuels are not unlimited resources. Save what is left of fossil fuels for lotion (yep. Where do you think petroleum jelly comes from?😂).
Have you ever travelled by bus? It's an agonizingly slow cumbersome and uncomfortable process. Putting more buses on the road isn't going to solve anything. There's little that can replace air travel for price and speed of getting from one place to another. And, as has already been said, you can't build a road or rail to just anywhere you want to go. It's not cost effective or, in some cases, even physically possible.
Fill the damn thing up
Waltuh
We fly across the United States? The US has a vast train network. You should travel by train.
It's just time consuming.
The U.S. does not have a "vast train network". Compared to the rest of the Industrial World it is meager + substandard.
Russia! JFK 😂
I heard the same lol 😂
I am the danger
You need to put ADSB in every plane in the US, and do it in the next 3 to 5 years! Imagine the lives that could be made much safer.
Years???? They better do it right quick!!!!!!!!!
Yall are far behind. Lmao. ADSB out became mandatory in 2020. It's the transponder system which sends out the planes position and altitude along with other data such as speed. Etc. It's the thing That allows you to use flight trackers like flight aware or flightradar. ADSB In is a display IN THE PLANE, which shows the position and altitude of nearby planes around you. I use it all the time to help me avoid and see traffic. Although even WITH ADSB, nothing has changed. Still lots of private pilots who don't have ADSB IN. And get very close to hitting me. ADSB has saved my life more than once already. But airliners don't use ADSB IN, they only have ADSB OUT. This means they send their position to controllers and flight trackers and other planes, but they themselves can't see which planes are near them. So airliners still rely on controllers to separate them from traffic.
@@yvonnegrassi9219 Yall are far behind. Lmao. ADSB out became mandatory in 2020. It's the transponder system which sends out the planes position and altitude along with other data such as speed. Etc. It's the thing That allows you to use flight trackers like flight aware or flightradar. ADSB In is a display IN THE PLANE, which shows the position and altitude of nearby planes around you. I use it all the time to help me avoid and see traffic. Although even WITH ADSB, nothing has changed. Still lots of private pilots who don't have ADSB IN. And get very close to hitting me. ADSB has saved my life more than once already. But airliners don't use ADSB IN, they only have ADSB OUT. This means they send their position to controllers and flight trackers and other planes, but they themselves can't see which planes are near them. So airliners still rely on controllers to separate them from traffic.
Implement this kind of feature seem kinda late, should start it much earlier
It's already mandatory since 2020
You know, because pilots aren't overworked as it is. Let's give them ATC duties as well! SMH
How about replacing air traffic controller‘s with an artificially intelligent chat-bot system? It would have access to all of the same information but a nearly infinite and infallible memory.
No. Ur not a pilot and have no clue how any of this works, so don't say AI again. such an irritating buzz word. AI isn't real, at least not yet. It's just a clever program at best. Intelligence implies awareness and deliberate action..no computer today has intelligence, just more program sophistication. Intellifwnt things can go beyond their programming and expand, I don't see chat gpt doing that because it can't, because it's not inteligent or self aware. Its just a really clever piece of code, and can never go beyond it
Ever heard of PANPANPAN!? DB
That should relieve the world economy of tens of thousands of well paid pilots jobs. Of course they have to play the security concerns card but they are well aware that flight industry is performing very well theses days regarding security
Yeah they really need to start devising and re - devising these existing airports where airplanes never sit and wait on runways, also airplanes should not be crossing runways to get to and from terminals either! but even with the aircraft's themselves from an engineering standpoint I'm seeing a bit more wiggling and flexing in these new airliners than I am typically comfortable with, these new massively powerful turbofan engines wiggle and flex all over the place on those mount pylons and the new Wing designs do also just a bit too much for my particular taste, I think graphene doping of aluminum will alleviate all these problems perfectly and get that amount of flex down to a more comfortable ratios, and it will totally eliminate a lot of problems that they've been having with aluminum in aircraft designs.
The deadly weakness in the system is not crashes. The deadly weakness is that jets are insanely polluting. High altitude emissions are far more likely to do serious damage to the delicate mechanisms at play in the frigid zones of the stratosphere. Jets actually fly inside of the jet stream to save some fuel and time, but the stream correlates directly and indirectly to our planetary weather patterns. Jets are also a powerful depletor of ozone. We need to get electric planes such as the Alice up ASAP.
It's highly unlikely that batteries will ever have that type of power density because of the way they store energy. If they do, one tiny flaw in the battery will turn them into a flying bomb. Look at what happens to an electric car when the batteries fail. Aircraft batteries would be far worst. By the way before you object, I have been working with batteries in the 50s before I reached my teens. I have also viewed the history dating back to Edisons electric delivery truck and the early electric cars.
@@denawiltsie4412 I do object. I have watched this technology for a long time also, and I have seen major advances on every front. Solar energy science is nowhere near the apex of possibility. We have mag lev, frictionless bearings, regenerative braking, super conductors, fuel cells and solar panels which are miles ahead of the current models in use. The Alice has seen improvements in batteries even before it goes into full production. Imagine a plane with a solar absorbing body and wings, solar absorption 10X todays best and light weight batteries which are many times more powerful, reliable and safe. This is all very near. Jets are deadly, period.
Solar cells have been at 15% and they are now some that claim 20% so your idea of 10 time better isn't possible. I suspect that the physics of solar cells may not allow much more in the way of improvement and that will take a long time to reach.The newer cells may not have the life expectancy that the older cell do requiring much earlier replacement resulting in higher cost and waste. As for solar cells, I got my first one early in the 1960s while I was still in grade school. They can be a great idea for a mountain cabin where power isn't available however I prefer my connection to the Palo Verde Nuclear plant which is 30 miles away directly west of me.
As for batteries, the problem is the amount of surface area available to react and produce power. A good deal of material is needed to hold the active material and conduct the power out of the cell. This has always been the problem. Sintering where powered metal is pressed together then heated to below the melting point under pressure has been used for years in NiCad and NiMh batteries. Lithium uses a more active chemistry upping the voltage but not really obtaining that much more current holding ability. Lithium is near the upper voltage limit for a chemical reaction.
Understanding the Physics and reality of both problem, I wouldn't put money into what could be smoke and mirrors. When private investors are unwilling to put their money into something and the government put huge amounts of money into something, watch out. Remember Solyndra the Crescent Dunes Project. Fraud has grown from snake oil salesmen to the big time but government still hadn't learned with passing the inflation reduction act.
Having been in and survived 5 plane crashes and several additional close calls with air planes, I will never get on anther airplane in my life.
No gas, no fire. So, some survivors! Maybe all planes should be required to have no fuel when they crash! Bad joke! Db