Wow I always liked the Chrysler Industrial engine but that coolant insert tube surprised me and having to replace it every 2 years is the first I heard about that. As I told you a while back my dad had a 1972 P&H 17.5 ton mobile crane and it had that very engine and we had it rebuilt when I was about 12 years old and he used that crane for another 16 years approximately and never changed that tube I bet my dad doesn’t even know that that coolant tube exists 😂😂 But Ed’s explanation of the camshaft lobes makes perfect sense because that engine could idle and lift 17.5 tons without any struggling issues.You didn’t have to have the RPMs high at all and on top of that it was quiet even though it only had a 24 inch straight pipe and used very little gasoline especially in summer when the temperatures were warm! But I was so fond of that engine because of all the reason I listed it certainly was a very good application for that model crane!😀🇨🇦
The Chrysler & DeSoto sixes were very high quality. Longer, and with more displacement than Plymouth sixes. They can be swapped into Plymouths using (hard to find now) Mopar parts. Think 40s Plymouth coupe, with Chrysler six and 37 floorshift 3 spd., truck transmission. Good times, early 1960s. Thanks, Dubs
The very first Chrysler made in 1924 had a flathead six cylinder, high compression motor that was state of the art for that day. The engine shown in this video, was a model made from 1937 to 1959 for cars and trucks. Usually in 217 cu in (plymouth) or 230 cu in (plymouth or dodge) The flathead six was the main stay of Chrysler products for many years.
I don't believe I have ever seen anyone else drill a hole in the block to get that tube out. They do make a puller designed specifically to remove this tube and it is neither expensive nor difficult to make one of your own. They do make a stainless steel version of the tube, which is what I am putting into my 230 once assembly starts. New timing gear sets are available, US made SA Gear Timing Set 73111
I've worked on & rebuilt a lot of these engines, never had much of a problem getting the water distributing tube out, We had a tool for that purpose. It had 6 teeth that was retractable that would pull the tube out fairly easy. If I may correct you the water pump discharged directly into the tube, not in the other hole that you indicated, The holes in the tube acted like a nozzle to supply water to the EHAUST valves only, not the the intake valves. I would never drill a hole in the block to extract the tube remnants. RCR
Water tube.. i remember replacing these water tube's ! "In car" replacement was easy when these engines were fairly new ! Can't remember the company name but in the 60's someone made stainless steel tubes . I still have my homemade 'Flattening Tool' to smash the end flush with the block.
It’s not a round tube, it’s a certain tapered shape with cut outs pointing in certain ways for precise cooling. You can get them in a couple types of metal 🙏
That is because when Chrysler Canada got their own engine foundry in 1938 it only made one motor, the long Chrysler/ DeSoto block. To get engines suitable for Plymouth and Dodge, they reduced the bore from 3 7/16 to 3 3/8 and juggled the stroke to get the same displacement and horsepower as American Dodge and Plymouth.
@@BarryTsGarage Ya if you are in Canada or happen to have a Canadian made Dodge or Plymouth you have to be careful to get the right engine parts. Some found their way into the US, and many were exported to Australia and other Commonwealth countries.
Barry tell Ed we love the guy! I learned something when he said don’t use solvent on some cast parts like a camshaft. Thanks Barry
You got it - I learn as well - always great to hang out with Ed, and glad to bring you along...
The Knowledge Ed has is Amazing. Like I always say his Generation Made This Country Great!!!!!!!!!!
I agree!
They all died from Cancer due to playing in the grease w/o gloves.
Ed is just Awesome!!!! Love his demeanor and knowledge......One Heck of A Guy!!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
I agree, thank you for your kind words!
Wow I always liked the Chrysler Industrial engine but that coolant insert tube surprised me and having to replace it every 2 years is the first I heard about that.
As I told you a while back my dad had a 1972 P&H 17.5 ton mobile crane and it had that very engine and we had it rebuilt when I was about 12 years old and he used that crane for another 16 years approximately and never changed that tube I bet my dad doesn’t even know that that coolant tube exists 😂😂
But Ed’s explanation of the camshaft lobes makes perfect sense because that engine could idle and lift 17.5 tons without any struggling issues.You didn’t have to have the RPMs high at all and on top of that it was quiet even though it only had a 24 inch straight pipe and used very little gasoline especially in summer when the temperatures were warm!
But I was so fond of that engine because of all the reason I listed it certainly was a very good application for that model crane!😀🇨🇦
Wow that is a PERFECT example of what these engines were all about! Thanks for sharing!
The Chrysler & DeSoto sixes were very high quality. Longer, and with more displacement than Plymouth sixes. They can be swapped into Plymouths using (hard to find now) Mopar parts. Think 40s Plymouth coupe, with Chrysler six and 37 floorshift 3 spd., truck transmission. Good times, early 1960s. Thanks, Dubs
The very first Chrysler made in 1924 had a flathead six cylinder, high compression motor that was state of the art for that day. The engine shown in this video, was a model made from 1937 to 1959 for cars and trucks. Usually in 217 cu in (plymouth) or 230 cu in (plymouth or dodge) The flathead six was the main stay of Chrysler products for many years.
Thanks for enriching us with more details! 👍
Many years of wise knowledge you have in the shop right there!👍👀👍 Thank you for the wonderful video!!!!!
Thanks!!! 👍
Nice to see one of these being rebuilt! Thanks Ed & Barry!
Glad you enjoyed it
Ed is most interesting. Nice to see the expertise. I am a gearhead also. So it is much appreciated. Long live Ed.
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I don't believe I have ever seen anyone else drill a hole in the block to get that tube out. They do make a puller designed specifically to remove this tube and it is neither expensive nor difficult to make one of your own. They do make a stainless steel version of the tube, which is what I am putting into my 230 once assembly starts. New timing gear sets are available, US made SA Gear Timing Set 73111
Great comment - thanks. Yes Ed has his way to do things.
37Dodge Coupe 218.7 is in the houzz, 48 Dodge Fluid Drive!
Wow I sense the challenge!
I've worked on & rebuilt a lot of these engines, never had much of a problem getting the water distributing tube out, We had a tool for that purpose. It had 6 teeth that was retractable that would pull the tube out fairly easy. If I may correct you the water pump discharged directly into the tube, not in the other hole that you indicated, The holes in the tube acted like a nozzle to supply water to the EHAUST valves only, not the the intake valves. I would never drill a hole in the block to extract the tube remnants. RCR
That makes sense. I will check with Ed and report back! Obviously he doesn’t have the tool you speak of… but he tends to prevail somehow! Thanks 🙏 👍
Thank u.
You're welcome
Water tube.. i remember replacing these water tube's ! "In car" replacement was easy when these engines were fairly new ! Can't remember the company name but in the 60's someone made stainless steel tubes . I still have my homemade
'Flattening Tool' to smash the end flush with the block.
That’s awesome
“Some day I’ll own my own garage but not the roadside” really good common sense Ed !
That’s Ed!
13:33 that tube should be stainless steel. Seems it wouldnt be difficult to make one from stainles sheet or tubing!
It’s not a round tube, it’s a certain tapered shape with cut outs pointing in certain ways for precise cooling. You can get them in a couple types of metal 🙏
1954 Plymouth w/230 6 and three speed manual, my first car, hatefully slow. Wanted a Y-block Ford so bad. I was mis-guided.
HATEFULLY 🤣🤣 sorry to hear that! Yeah Y block back then would have been a lot faster… 👍
He forgot more about building engines then most so called engine builder's will ever think they know
Once bought a 53 Willy's wagon 4 wd had one of those instead of the continental 6
Interesting 👍
Canadian Plymouth and Dodge used the Chrysler and DeSoto engine
Very cool, good to know thanks for adding that info! 👍
That is because when Chrysler Canada got their own engine foundry in 1938 it only made one motor, the long Chrysler/ DeSoto block. To get engines suitable for Plymouth and Dodge, they reduced the bore from 3 7/16 to 3 3/8 and juggled the stroke to get the same displacement and horsepower as American Dodge and Plymouth.
I had no idea but makes perfect sense! Except the Chrysler block was a couple inches (or so) longer, so that’s funny to me…
@@BarryTsGarage Ya if you are in Canada or happen to have a Canadian made Dodge or Plymouth you have to be careful to get the right engine parts. Some found their way into the US, and many were exported to Australia and other Commonwealth countries.
Valid point!
The good water distribution tube are brass
I would agree with that
Or stainless.....
soooo, can a fella use kerosene to clean the camshaft ?
I would think so.