I preferred the Mark IV. I’m some what biased as I have one myself but, I find the Mark IV gives a certain depth to the notes that the Rectifiers don’t quite do (I also have a Triple Rec that I’ve compared)
Badlander. I played a mark iv for a long time. Now have the royal atlantic. That badlander tone, for metal, is hard to beat but I will say that the RA is not far behind it.
Good stuff man. The Mark IV was way brighter but your settings indicate you could either brighter up the Badlander or darken the IV. I’m looking forward to getting my Badlander in.
The Badlander records better than it sounds, it has almost no low end to speak of, but because you aren't hearing much under 120hz in these videos, it sounds passable. The Badlander needs a resonance control at a bare minimum, it's just so thin compared to my Marks, you'd swear there was something broken inside, but then, I've played 3 Badlanders now and they can't all have the same issue. Also, nice picking!
Both amps sound great but because I'm more of the chainsaw group I like the Mark 4 a little better. 😄 Merry Christmas to you and your family. I wish you health and happy days Rock on 🐈
Curious about us how you get the Mark to sound good? I played a Mark IV and V and both seemed med too thin and buzzy no matter how it was set. I know guys make them sound good though. :(
The Mark IV gets dialed in different than any other amp. The bass, mid, and treble are to "shape" your gain. And use the graphic eq to further it. Hard to explain in a short comment. Alot of the controls work with eachother. You can't dial this in like a Marshall or Peavey or a Dual rec. But the tone options are unlimited. The Mark IV may be the greatest amp ever. I'll never sell my rev b. As far as the V, Petrucci has some vids on here that show how to dial them in. The V is also a versatile beast. The iii red stripe is close to the C+ too.
Have you tried the Mesa Triple Crown? I'm between badlander and the triple crown so I was wondering if you could compare and contrast the two amplifiers. I do appreciate your videos a lot and you give a better and honest demo and review than other youtubers.
Hey with that Bandlander, can it run a line out after the power stack but without cab emulation? Wanting it to go into my interface without cabs or IRs.
If you’re trying to load your own IRs onto the raw signal, the Badlander allows you to load your own IRs onto the built in Cab Clone, so you can send the DI with your preferred IR to the interface or to FOH. No dickery required. It’s what I did with my new album, and it sounds absolutely monstrous!
@@IllusionaryFuneral the goal is to capture the amp without the cab or IRs so the amp can be profiled. Can the cab clone be disabled or null IR loaded?
waz up brother!!! me thinks the math EQ symbol u speak of is the square root...but anyways, i've had a mark IV for a while now n just bought the 50W badlander to run in stereo with it...sounds killer!!! they blend very well together...cheers!!!
I'm super interested in the Badlander, but have a question that is especially relevant to you given how much you like Mark amps. How well can the Badlander do the compressed, Mark-style "liquid lead" tone? Rectifiers aren't exactly known for their lead tones. I have TC-100, which seems like it could be the sort of middle ground.
I have a TC-50 and a Badlander 100. The Triple Crown does a smoother, liquid type lead tone. The Badlander is more aggressive and better for crunchy rhythm imo, but I can still get great, fat lead tones out of it. Just my opinion of course. They're both very, very good amps and different enough to warrant having both.
I don’t think the lead tones from the Badlander are quite to the level of a mark series. However I bet through a tube screamer or OD pedal in front of it might help a bit. I love it all though 😂🤷♂️
The Mark V have more definition, it have more balls, at least to my ears... That's a matter of tastes, you have the same number of results than the number of people!!
HALF of this demo video was you talking. Talking about irrelevant personal vignettes & tangential topics with little to no bearing on the subject. Don't do that. Try to keep your patter tight & on-point. Lose the shirt. Wearing a cap with for a band that matches your shirt makes you look like a dork, like twin kids with matching outfits. It is a fashion faux pas. For a "demo" video there sure wasn't much demo. I was interested in how the Mark IV compared to the BL. Don't care about the other amps and how much you like them because it's not the topic of the video. Focus.
@@zbassillini I know, I know. Right? You're right. I'm way too opinionated about way too many things & do need to start my own channel. My comments were meant more as guidance from a viewer than a criticism, although any advice can be viewed as criticism. I know it's hard to create content . I'm not stupid. Keep it up, but maybe tighten it up. My views are all colored by the fact that I won't be long for this earth. So others may feel they have all the time in the world, but many of us don't.
@@jsullivan2112 Really, that's what you think? I'm sorry you live in a world bereft of objective reality. On the plus side, it could be fun. Every day being a new, psychedelic adventure. On the downside you'll fail miserably to understand much about the world around you. You'll fail to communicate effectively and you'll lurch from mistake to mistake, lost in an ocean of confusion because you can't figure out really basic stuff. I read my comment. It is chock full of absolutely and literally helpful suggestions. That you take these as criticisms tells me you have some significant emotional, mental, or educational deficiencies. That's too bad, I don't wish that on anyone (except sociopaths & sadists. They deserve all the misery life can muster for them.) I appreciate that things that are easy for me are difficult for many. I never know when I'll bump into this with others, like yourself. It happens frequently. I cannot, however, limit my own activities just because most people aren't quite bright, or astute enough to discern completely pedestrian concepts, like when I suggest a truly helpful modification, like altering speech pacing, that the intended recipeint of my message is too dumb, or uneducated, or brain-washed to realize or understand that I've given them an expensive gift with my suggestion. I'd pity you, but then again I'd have to pity most of the world and I just don't have the time for every microcephalic with a youtube channel and an inability to understand the basics of communicating effectively. I'll do it if I"m getting paid. Standard rate is $150/hr. It is truly a bargain, as many less capable than myself charge double that. I pity the fool that hires them. Remember: the fool can aske more questions than the wise man can answer. Similarly, stupid people's incapacity to understand simple concepts outstrips the ability of the more capable to help them. I wish you luck. Let me know if your luck improves and you learn to properly do what you pretend to be doing.
Badlander for heavy rhythms and Marks for leads! Both are awesome amps!
Just prefer the Badlander
So glad I have the mark iv,
I preferred the Mark IV. I’m some what biased as I have one myself but, I find the Mark IV gives a certain depth to the notes that the Rectifiers don’t quite do (I also have a Triple Rec that I’ve compared)
Someone probably already said this - square root symbol. Not that I’m a math genius - I just happened to remember the symbol name. Great vid so far!
Mark IV sounded a little fizzy by comparison. Seems to me like the high-mid slider would benefit from not being so high up.
I think u might have set the 2200 and 6600 kinda high on the mark. I am sure you can make it sound less fizzy - I have one and it's a beast of an amp
I’m with you - I’ll keep $5k in my pocket rather than buy a C+. Mark IV best all around amp
They both sound like a Boogie sounds, mids from hell...I have a Mark IV as well, but I actually preferred the Badlander on this one.
Badlander. I played a mark iv for a long time. Now have the royal atlantic. That badlander tone, for metal, is hard to beat but I will say that the RA is not far behind it.
Good stuff man. The Mark IV was way brighter but your settings indicate you could either brighter up the Badlander or darken the IV. I’m looking forward to getting my Badlander in.
i bought a Guptech Quebec pedal added EQ for the Badlander its just unreal sound.
Im gonna call it a Square Root eq from now on. I have my Mark set the same.
Mark 4 sounded not as muffled.. i liked it...but im not in the room. I think old Mesas are great. More simple design.
The Badlander records better than it sounds, it has almost no low end to speak of, but because you aren't hearing much under 120hz in these videos, it sounds passable. The Badlander needs a resonance control at a bare minimum, it's just so thin compared to my Marks, you'd swear there was something broken inside, but then, I've played 3 Badlanders now and they can't all have the same issue. Also, nice picking!
Both amps sound great but because I'm more of the chainsaw group I like the Mark 4 a little better. 😄
Merry Christmas to you and your family. I wish you health and happy days
Rock on
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The Mark IV definitely sounds better. It's crisper and a little more open sounding. The Badlander is too dark and compressed(?) sounding.
Over here from instagram! I really love your RUclips! You really do truly creative stuff!
Curious about us how you get the Mark to sound good? I played a Mark IV and V and both seemed med too thin and buzzy no matter how it was set. I know guys make them sound good though. :(
The Mark IV gets dialed in different than any other amp. The bass, mid, and treble are to "shape" your gain. And use the graphic eq to further it. Hard to explain in a short comment. Alot of the controls work with eachother. You can't dial this in like a Marshall or Peavey or a Dual rec. But the tone options are unlimited. The Mark IV may be the greatest amp ever. I'll never sell my rev b. As far as the V, Petrucci has some vids on here that show how to dial them in. The V is also a versatile beast. The iii red stripe is close to the C+ too.
Both sound good. The playing is awesome.
Have you tried the Mesa Triple Crown? I'm between badlander and the triple crown so I was wondering if you could compare and contrast the two amplifiers. I do appreciate your videos a lot and you give a better and honest demo and review than other youtubers.
Mark iv all the way
Surprised I like the Badlander better
Hey with that Bandlander, can it run a line out after the power stack but without cab emulation? Wanting it to go into my interface without cabs or IRs.
If you’re trying to load your own IRs onto the raw signal, the Badlander allows you to load your own IRs onto the built in Cab Clone, so you can send the DI with your preferred IR to the interface or to FOH. No dickery required. It’s what I did with my new album, and it sounds absolutely monstrous!
@@IllusionaryFuneral the goal is to capture the amp without the cab or IRs so the amp can be profiled. Can the cab clone be disabled or null IR loaded?
@@woodward_alan That’s a good question, I’m gonna try to see if I can have no IR in one of my slots and go from there. I’ll get back to you on that.
I have jp which I love, but u just sold me a badlander boss …nice work
Is that's the 1960A cab loaded with G12-T75?
The Mark IV is too bright. I prefer the Badlander. But then again I could set the Mark IV differently too.
Mark iv still has the mojo!
Guess Im in the minority. The Badlander sounded better here to me. The Mark sounded like a good pedal or preamp
waz up brother!!! me thinks the math EQ symbol u speak of is the square root...but anyways, i've had a mark IV for a while now n just bought the 50W badlander to run in stereo with it...sounds killer!!! they blend very well together...cheers!!!
Can you play vintage surf stuff on a badlander? Fenders don’t have headphones output 🥲 I wanna play at night and not disturb my wife.
Jcm 2000 for the win
I would like to hear the Jp2c vs the badlander. I own the Jp2c and would like to hear your comparison. Thanks and keep shredding!!!
I subscribe because you shred those amp 👍🏻
Mark IV wins
Badlander seems to be a rebranded mesa f100 amp, without reverb.
I'm super interested in the Badlander, but have a question that is especially relevant to you given how much you like Mark amps. How well can the Badlander do the compressed, Mark-style "liquid lead" tone? Rectifiers aren't exactly known for their lead tones. I have TC-100, which seems like it could be the sort of middle ground.
I have a TC-50 and a Badlander 100. The Triple Crown does a smoother, liquid type lead tone. The Badlander is more aggressive and better for crunchy rhythm imo, but I can still get great, fat lead tones out of it. Just my opinion of course. They're both very, very good amps and different enough to warrant having both.
@@geetarplyr1 WARRANT HAVING BOTH EH? Hahaha
I don’t think the lead tones from the Badlander are quite to the level of a mark series. However I bet through a tube screamer or OD pedal in front of it might help a bit. I love it all though 😂🤷♂️
The Mark V have more definition, it have more balls, at least to my ears... That's a matter of tastes, you have the same number of results than the number of people!!
Wow! Super nice tones
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Shame.the badlander is a modern day amp without modern day features? What a joke
HALF of this demo video was you talking. Talking about irrelevant personal vignettes & tangential topics with little to no bearing on the subject. Don't do that. Try to keep your patter tight & on-point. Lose the shirt. Wearing a cap with for a band that matches your shirt makes you look like a dork, like twin kids with matching outfits. It is a fashion faux pas. For a "demo" video there sure wasn't much demo. I was interested in how the Mark IV compared to the BL. Don't care about the other amps and how much you like them because it's not the topic of the video. Focus.
Salvador has a lot of feelings and needs to create his own channel.
@@zbassillini I know, I know. Right? You're right. I'm way too opinionated about way too many things & do need to start my own channel. My comments were meant more as guidance from a viewer than a criticism, although any advice can be viewed as criticism. I know it's hard to create content . I'm not stupid. Keep it up, but maybe tighten it up. My views are all colored by the fact that I won't be long for this earth. So others may feel they have all the time in the world, but many of us don't.
Don’t like what I do, don’t watch it. Simple ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@jHeminway I was offering constructive criticism, and I did stop watching it. That's the point.
@@jsullivan2112 Really, that's what you think? I'm sorry you live in a world bereft of objective reality. On the plus side, it could be fun. Every day being a new, psychedelic adventure. On the downside you'll fail miserably to understand much about the world around you. You'll fail to communicate effectively and you'll lurch from mistake to mistake, lost in an ocean of confusion because you can't figure out really basic stuff. I read my comment. It is chock full of absolutely and literally helpful suggestions. That you take these as criticisms tells me you have some significant emotional, mental, or educational deficiencies. That's too bad, I don't wish that on anyone (except sociopaths & sadists. They deserve all the misery life can muster for them.) I appreciate that things that are easy for me are difficult for many. I never know when I'll bump into this with others, like yourself. It happens frequently. I cannot, however, limit my own activities just because most people aren't quite bright, or astute enough to discern completely pedestrian concepts, like when I suggest a truly helpful modification, like altering speech pacing, that the intended recipeint of my message is too dumb, or uneducated, or brain-washed to realize or understand that I've given them an expensive gift with my suggestion. I'd pity you, but then again I'd have to pity most of the world and I just don't have the time for every microcephalic with a youtube channel and an inability to understand the basics of communicating effectively. I'll do it if I"m getting paid. Standard rate is $150/hr. It is truly a bargain, as many less capable than myself charge double that. I pity the fool that hires them. Remember: the fool can aske more questions than the wise man can answer. Similarly, stupid people's incapacity to understand simple concepts outstrips the ability of the more capable to help them. I wish you luck. Let me know if your luck improves and you learn to properly do what you pretend to be doing.
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