WashDay Wash-In 4.0 With tallboyyyy!!!
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Originally recorded August 3, 2024.
Time for a little something different! I'm actually posting these videos out-of-order from what actually happened, otherwise there would have been WashDays back-to-back, and I KNOW that would cause many to have to use the Jergens Extra Healing variety. This was shot on the day tallboyyyy arrived, and we washed the sheets and blankets from the bed, so they'd be all fresh and clean for him. So, sheets in one machine, and blanket in the other.
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Since I’ve been through the timer on my Whirlpool, the spray rinses are technically controlled by a contact and lobe on the came assembly, but not in the way you think it would. When the timer moves into the spin portion, pushes a contact down, the spray rinses are activated by a eccentric which is attached to the main timer motor which activates another small contact. That contact is activated by 4 small cutouts on the eccentric (lobes just like on the main cam assembly) which is moving whenever the timer motor is running.
When the contact is engaged for the spin, engages the the contact for spray simultaneously. When the eccentric on the timer motor comes around, it closes a contact which activates the spray rinse for 7 to 8 seconds. Since there’s a total of 4 lobes on the eccentric, there’s 4 spray rinses on each spin (8 in total for the regular cycle, 4 for the gentle and Wash N Wear cycle). When the spray contact expires when it opens, it overrides the spray rinses on the first and final spin.
That's fascinating, and makes perfect sense that it's driven off the timer motor itself. If it were on the main cam, that moves way too slowly and the rinse would go on for a very long time.
@@jaykay18 even the early belt drives in 1947/1948 were like this. Reason why Whirlpool programmed the spray rinses to come on 7 to 8 seconds at a time is the pumps on those machines can only pump so much water out at a time, if it were a continuous spray since, it would begin to water lock (like a suds lock but with water), bog things down considerably since the pump can’t pump out the water out fast enough.
With Maytags on the other hand, it’s controlled with a contact in the timer since it does a solid 1 minute spray rinse, my Maytag A806 and Tallboyyyy’s 1978 Maytag A408 does this as well. Not sure why Maytag went with a one minute spray rinse, but could have been to simply and make things as reliable as possible.
@@seana806 Interesting. I didn't realize the pumps on those were so weak.
I'd definitely image thoe Maytags are like that for absolute simplicity. Back then, companies would pick a good, simple design. Again, a good, simple design. That means it not only works well, but it also very reliable. Doesn't talk about repairing it, but with a good design that is reliable, it shouldn't need to be repaired much.
@@jaykay18 the pumps on those Whirlpool belt drives weren’t weak mechanically, just could only pump out so much water at a time. The clutch was adjustable on some of the older belt drives which could help the pump a little since the tub wouldn’t come up to speed too fast and would allow the pump to pump the water away while the tub was coming up to speed and not spinning out a bunch of water at the same time. Another thing that’s critical on the older belt drives with the 2 minute drain (large capacity belt drives had a 4 minute drain) is there needs to be a smooth rubber or vinyl hose, a corrugated hose will work, but will restrict the flow of water which can cause the pump to not be able to keep up all that will.
The basic design of those Maytags dates back to 1957/1958 which replaced the older AMP models, there was a slight redesign in 1966 and essentially remained unchanged to 2006 with the exception of the Orbital transmissions which debuted in 1986/1987. Essentially, all Maytags from the late 50’s to 2006 all take the same water pump, have the same belts, motor etc. Maytag was a very conservative company, but definitely more than payed off since there were little to no complaints about reliability and such. I’ve literally seen over a hundred older Maytags from the 60’s and 70’s pop up for sale out here in California since about 2016 or so. Seen some older Whirlpools as well, but not as many compared to the older Maytags frame the 60’s and 70’s era.
The thing that killed off a lot of those older Whirlpools is the neutral drain tended to gunk up the surfaces (especially with lower end detergents) on the outer tub and as we all know, dirt and scum holds in moisture which ultimately will cause the outer tub to rot out. The direct drives do a neutral drain as well, but have a plastic outer tub, not a metal outer tub. Whirlpool did use plastic outer tubs on the belt drives for a very brief time in around 1973/1974, but went back to metal since plastic was more expensive at the time due to the oil embargo of 1973. Another thing that killed some of those belt drives off is the pumps had a tendency to go out every 10 years, the 4 port pump mine uses has a little wick you can add oil to, the later 3 port pumps did not. The wig wag/control magnet assembly would either have the solenoids fail, or the plunger for spin would break which would cause the tub to spin when agitating, not common failures but do happen from time to time.
Maytags can have their issues as well, but usually it’s a set of belts, possibly a pump and a few other odds and ends, but nothing major. The only time they ever had issues is if they literally were used into oblivion and the lower o-ring on the transmission began to leak. Maytag mentioned their machines could do up to 14,000 loads of laundry before a major repair in the early 1960’s around 1962 or so, but since they were beefed up in 1966, probably would do 20,000 to 25,000 loads of laundry, maybe even more before needing a major repair/overhaul.
@@seana806 Yes, that's exactly what I meant. It's funny now that you mention that, because my dad has a belt-drive from I think 1978. It has a smooth drain hose.
I'll bet Maytag kept many of the same parts, they had a good design and were super reliable, as was purported by the lonely Maytag repairman on TV. But I'm not taking the TV ad's word for it, it really was true that they were very reliable. That's great when any company keeps the same parts decade after decade, and not something you see as much today. The same parts used over and over means lots of replacement parts for the inevitable repair, and also, it will be easy to get said parts.
That's very interesting, what you mention about the outer tubs rotting out because of the gunk and moisture. But really, that's more or less something we're seeing today, some 50, maybe even 60 years after the machines were produced. And when they were produced, they had an expected lifespan of probably a good 10 years, however, one could typically expect 15-20, sometimes even 25 years. Now we're pushing at least double that.
Another great video! I do agree that the older DD pumps sound better. It's a shame that they were known for failures back then, hence why they were revised.
Thanks.
Washing machine....ahhh i need a cigarette
OK.
I wish they made more direct drives❤,but no because they just wanna make belt drive that mess up and have error codes,H.E washers don't have a good rollover and weak agitation
They redesigned the machines and they now have more failures than ever. The hope is that it fails soon but you still trust the brand and buy another machine from them. Doesn't always work but a lot of times it does--they can sell you a bunch more machines that keep failing than one good one that runs forever. Welcome to Corporate America.
@jaykay18 Honestly,I respect what you said❤️👍, My parents used to have a direct drive But now they have a LG Front loader washer
@@SplatoonGG2.0 I speak the truth. it IS true.
@@jaykay18 I know it's true❤️
@@jaykay18 So what wash are you planning to get whenever they mess up?