@@Rapsgarage I am ok with that. I just want to inspect it, lap the check ball seat, and reseal it up. Just wasn't sure if there would be issues with not being able to hold the gear inside the cam chest in place during reassembly
@@michaelcouey1383 You can lap the check ball seat without taking the pump off. Do it in place and get all of the lapping compound out of the pump. BTW use a very fine compound. Check out my video on how to do it. ruclips.net/video/54n8R72eJO4/видео.html
@@Rapsgarage I did watch the video. That's what gave me the idea. I am just not sure how you get the compound out without removing the pump and flushing it
Before you start, you have to clamp off the wheel feed line or drain your oil tank of oil. Then I’ve used a q-tip that’s on a wood stick and get as much off as you can then use brakekeen and get the rest off. After completely finish, unclamped the oil line or put oil back in the oil tank and that oil will come up through where that check is and flush out any remaining compound. You don’t need a lot of compound when you’re doing this.
My1997 FXDL lifter filter screen that you call a Witch's Hat. is missing??? yep, i pulled it out and it has a smaller dia spring and it go's into a blind tube [ meaning not a through hole tube ] and looks just like the pressure valve, i am now thinking someone switch it into the wrong hole??? i guess i need to check it out now. i just check to see if it was clean at a 5K inspection as per book, i only have 5K on the bike since i bought it you see...
Ugh! Yes the lifter oil filter (witch’s hat) should be in the engine block next to the pump. Your 1997 definitely should have that. I’d also check that the oil pump pressure regulator valve and the oil tank check valve (both in the oil pump body) were installed correctly. I guess if it’s been running fine they probably are correct but it wouldn’t hurt. Let me know if I can help you further.
@@nhcpete thank you for watching my video and I’m glad you enjoyed it. If you sent me a picture to my email, I could better guide you on the question you have. If not search my channel for oil pumps and that video may already be on there.
Great video, however I stated to watch this because intro picture shows Twin Power Oil Pump and I thought that this is good guide for it. Do you have any guide how to connect oil houses to Twin Power pump ? Thanks in advance.
I don’t have a video for a twin power pump however, I do have a video on the hose routing on a shovel head. That would pretty much be the same as an Evo.
I watch this entire video to find out what the two large flat head screws out for the one up high in the one next to it down a little lower I learned everything except the reason I came here great video though I just wish you explain what those two flat head screws are for they look just like the tappet screw tappets crew but they're not they are right to the left of it. Or towards the rear of the bike. I'm just curious if they are designed to get more flow or what they're for?
One is to set the output oil pressure and one is a check valve to keep the oil that’s in the oil tank from gravity feeding into the engine when it’s not running. I hope this helps.
Has anyone seen little dimples on their gears? I’ve got an s&s 92-99 pump. I’m thinking the dimples on the scavenging side faces the engine and the pump gears face the outer cover. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks 🙏
They face out not towards the engine. See page 12 in the S&S manual. www.sscycle.com/docs/default-source/instruction-sheets/51-1041-billet-oil-pump-bt.pdf?sfvrsn=2
The way I’m seeing that diagram the marks on main gears face away from the engine, but the scavenge gears face towards the engine. Seems right being that you won’t be able to see the witness marks. Am I off again? Thank you 🙏
I'm working on a 75 and I've got to pull my oil pump off I pretty much well I'm pretty sure I better split the cases and wash the whole.. thing out thing out .. if I split the cases and then clean it and then just put it back together I should not have a problem.. and what do I put in between the cases is there some type of sealent
If I was going through all the work of splitting the cases I’d replace all the bearings including the crank pin bearing since metal probably went through all of them. With that said, I always used Hondabond or Permatex Motoseal gasket maker # 29132. They use this stuff to seal dirt bike motors. They both work great! Let me know how you make out.
@@Rapsgarage I just put up my latest video on the 75 this morning and some of its shortcomings on my channel. Thank you for giving me always good advice
Prior to 92 the area between the return inside gear and the gasket next to the lower inside mounting bolt was of a MARGINAL surface sealing area, hense the change in the bolt pattern in 92. I would NOT install the gasket on the case as shown in this video. More leaks and gasket problems arise with this shown method, just my 30+ years of dealer experience talkin here.
I have the S&S install instructions the show the difference you mention. In there instructions they install the gasket the same way for both styles. I’m always looking to learn. What do you you recommend doing differently?
@@Rapsgarage I recommend he shuts the f****** up and makes his own fkn video showing his wonderful method with 30 years + experience. Put your tools and video camera where your mouth is there buddy. Let's see those 30 years in action? Oh wait you sold the video camera for a 12-pack huh? Now before anybody gets all upset I'm 55 years old back in the 80s this was just called small talk back then nobody gave a s*** if you are Republican or Democrat and nobody was afraid of offending anybody and Budweiser was the king of beers, not the king of Qu&&@$! Dont mind me brothers, I'm just venting a weee bit M8
Nice tidy video, I'm lovin the polish job on the aluminum.
Thank you and thank you for watching
Doing all this 20 years ago from reading the Books . watching it looks easy .
So true...
Always great content, thank you 👍
Thank You!!
Great job,Thanks for the information 👍, keep it up,thanks for sharing this 🤔😎
Thank you for the kind words and thank you for watching.
So how many Hours roughly ?
Can you remove and reinstall the pump without taking the cam chest apart?
Yes you can but you can't remove the oil pump drive shaft.
@@Rapsgarage I am ok with that. I just want to inspect it, lap the check ball seat, and reseal it up. Just wasn't sure if there would be issues with not being able to hold the gear inside the cam chest in place during reassembly
@@michaelcouey1383 You can lap the check ball seat without taking the pump off. Do it in place and get all of the lapping compound out of the pump. BTW use a very fine compound. Check out my video on how to do it.
ruclips.net/video/54n8R72eJO4/видео.html
@@Rapsgarage I did watch the video. That's what gave me the idea. I am just not sure how you get the compound out without removing the pump and flushing it
Before you start, you have to clamp off the wheel feed line or drain your oil tank of oil. Then I’ve used a q-tip that’s on a wood stick and get as much off as you can then use brakekeen and get the rest off.
After completely finish, unclamped the oil line or put oil back in the oil tank and that oil will come up through where that check is and flush out any remaining compound. You don’t need a lot of compound when you’re doing this.
My1997 FXDL lifter filter screen that you call a Witch's Hat. is missing??? yep, i pulled it out and it has a smaller dia spring and it go's into a blind tube [ meaning not a through hole tube ] and looks just like the pressure valve, i am now thinking someone switch it into the wrong hole??? i guess i need to check it out now. i just check to see if it was clean at a 5K inspection as per book, i only have 5K on the bike since i bought it you see...
Ugh! Yes the lifter oil filter (witch’s hat) should be in the engine block next to the pump. Your 1997 definitely should have that. I’d also check that the oil pump pressure regulator valve and the oil tank check valve (both in the oil pump body) were installed correctly. I guess if it’s been running fine they probably are correct but it wouldn’t hurt. Let me know if I can help you further.
Great instructional video for rebuild on oil pump! Do you have one to blank un needed outlets. Pete in UK
@@nhcpete thank you for watching my video and I’m glad you enjoyed it. If you sent me a picture to my email, I could better guide you on the question you have. If not search my channel for oil pumps and that video may already be on there.
Great video, however I stated to watch this because intro picture shows Twin Power Oil Pump and I thought that this is good guide for it. Do you have any guide how to connect oil houses to Twin Power pump ? Thanks in advance.
I don’t have a video for a twin power pump however, I do have a video on the hose routing on a shovel head. That would pretty much be the same as an Evo.
great vids - thank you
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Thank you
Do you have to drill a relief hole in a solid lifter application.
I’ve never heard of that before.
I watch this entire video to find out what the two large flat head screws out for the one up high in the one next to it down a little lower I learned everything except the reason I came here great video though I just wish you explain what those two flat head screws are for they look just like the tappet screw tappets crew but they're not they are right to the left of it. Or towards the rear of the bike. I'm just curious if they are designed to get more flow or what they're for?
One is to set the output oil pressure and one is a check valve to keep the oil that’s in the oil tank from gravity feeding into the engine when it’s not running. I hope this helps.
Has anyone seen little dimples on their gears? I’ve got an s&s 92-99 pump. I’m thinking the dimples on the scavenging side faces the engine and the pump gears face the outer cover. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks 🙏
They face out not towards the engine. See page 12 in the S&S manual.
www.sscycle.com/docs/default-source/instruction-sheets/51-1041-billet-oil-pump-bt.pdf?sfvrsn=2
The way I’m seeing that diagram the marks on main gears face away from the engine, but the scavenge gears face towards the engine. Seems right being that you won’t be able to see the witness marks. Am I off again? Thank you 🙏
Yes I would agree. You can also call S&S and they’ve can confirm too.
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Thx
I'm working on a 75 and I've got to pull my oil pump off I pretty much well I'm pretty sure I better split the cases and wash the whole.. thing out thing out .. if I split the cases and then clean it and then just put it back together I should not have a problem.. and what do I put in between the cases is there some type of sealent
If I was going through all the work of splitting the cases I’d replace all the bearings including the crank pin bearing since metal probably went through all of them. With that said, I always used Hondabond or
Permatex Motoseal gasket maker # 29132. They use this stuff to seal dirt bike motors. They both work great! Let me know how you make out.
@@Rapsgarage I just put up my latest video on the 75 this morning and some of its shortcomings on my channel. Thank you for giving me always good advice
I’ll check it out
further to my previous question, This is for a 76 FLH
Prior to 92 the area between the return inside gear and the gasket next to the lower inside mounting bolt was of a MARGINAL surface sealing area, hense the change in the bolt pattern in 92. I would NOT install the gasket on the case as shown in this video. More leaks and gasket problems arise with this shown method, just my 30+ years of dealer experience talkin here.
I have the S&S install instructions the show the difference you mention. In there instructions they install the gasket the same way for both styles.
I’m always looking to learn. What do you you recommend doing differently?
@@Rapsgarage I recommend he shuts the f****** up and makes his own fkn video showing his wonderful method with 30 years + experience. Put your tools and video camera where your mouth is there buddy. Let's see those 30 years in action? Oh wait you sold the video camera for a 12-pack huh?
Now before anybody gets all upset I'm 55 years old back in the 80s this was just called small talk back then nobody gave a s*** if you are Republican or Democrat and nobody was afraid of offending anybody and Budweiser was the king of beers, not the king of Qu&&@$!
Dont mind me brothers, I'm just venting a weee bit M8