Harnischfechten (armored - fighting) freeplay at Cadolzburg - Alteisen Event. If you like what you see, feel free to follow us on facebook: / styriansteel
he was fine, you can see that my blow bodily pushes his centre of gravity to the right of his right foot, which also ws on the atual axe, hence his foot slips so the torque, high centre of gravity and loss of foot grip bodily knock him down, but he didn't get a very hard hit. The rubber axe heads do help there, too. He waa entirely congruent, non-dizzy, no headache and straaight viewed and quick in reaction afterwards.. i checked... the helmets are actually really good for this, if in good repair and fit. but it is kinda funny with the discussion in the background about if helmet hits should count, and then immediately there is a knock down :)
they are, if anything, a little short, compared to originals the bladed ones tended to be a little shorter at 180-200 cm usually, whereas the beaked types are usually well over 2 meters tall. this is mirrored in iconography. for every short pollaxe there seem to be 50 taller than the man. Some of these 'short' examples are perspective, some are actual one handed weapons, confused to be two handed. but there are a few instances were you do indeed see shorter axes, these are however very much the exception. then there is an actual source that says a pollaxe should be a span taller than the user. these are actually a little less than that... for me, anyway, and most were my ones that i brought, though most other people had similar lengths
@@airnt I am totally not saying that you are wrong, I'd actually love to use a longer one, but that's news to me. Any pointers where I can see that in iconography or a museum piece?
@@airnt Quick example which I was using as a guide so far: wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMP/eMuseumPlus?service=direct/1/ResultListView/result.t1.collection_list.$TspTitleImageLink.link&sp=10&sp=Scollection&sp=SfieldValue&sp=0&sp=0&sp=2&sp=SdetailList&sp=0&sp=Sdetail&sp=0&sp=F&sp=T&sp=0 and thats a pretty short one
@@florianamann7978 the main ones i based myself on were teh one int he royal armouries with the original shaft , at 1824 grams, but also the ones in the Dutch army museum, that is used to work at (now part of the NMM). the link didn't work for me, as it just defaulted to the wallace collection website, which one of them were you talking about? aren't they the axe-bladed ones? those are generally shorter and can be a touch heavier. (though the ranges of weight overlap) there is so many depictions i don't know where to start. A few of the shorter ones that are well known is a pair of guys fighting where the axes are held along the line of sight, perspectively shortening the axe in the image. This is much more cler by the riy of guys standing waiting their turn, leaning on their axes and all of them are taller then themselves. there is another famous one with a guy with yellow mail and a red brigandine, with a really stout and short axe coming up to his eyeline or thereabouts, next to him, however are three guys (in venetian armour?) with axes clearly longer than themselves.(again leaning on them) the list goes on. so often in the same image as a short example we can often find several much longer examples. the fencing books are of a similar ilk, especially the talhoffer editions are clear, but also the paulus kal depictions. Falkner too. they show some techniques where the axes are held vertically and (from the painters point fo view) just behind the man, and they are essentially taller than them by about a span. I think it was pietro monte that says they shoudl be a span taller than the user, i need to check i remembered that right.
@@airnt First: Thx for the long answer! Greatly appreciated! The Wallace Link linked to Item A926 which is an Axe bladed one, but every one in the collection is ~1,80m/6ft, as were the others I found in other collections (The MET, Royal Armouries Museum) that gave informations about the length. The RAM is, sadly, sparse with informations with the overall dimensions of their objects. Do you happen to know the Object Number you based yours on? As I said: I only found surviving examples that are of the short kind, so far Sadly from your other paragraphs "is a pair of guys fighting" etc. I am not sure how to find these depictions. Any pointers how to find what you are describing? Fencing books are a great Idea, I only read Fiore so far and they use the short ones: fightlikefiore.com/pollaxe-posta-breve-la-serpentina-short-serpent-guard/ I'll check the others
Cầm kiếm bằng cả 2 tay như vậy để có thể dễ dàng canh chuẩn mũi nhọn của kiếm vào điểm chí mạng, không được che chắn bởi giáp của đối phương chẳng hạn như là 2 bên nách, phần kẽ hở của mắt trên mũ... Do ở giai đoạn này, hầu hết binh lính các nước Châu Âu đều mặc giáp dạng tấm như trong video, kiếm thường không chém xuyên qua được đâu, nên mới chuyển sang đâm chọt nhau vào chỗ hiểm
I wouldn't really call it LARPing. Without armor, those poleaxes/halberds - even if made of rubber - could cause some lasting damage with those powerful strikes to the head.
@@mr31337 Larping is like a tabletop rpg but preformative. This is just like medieval combat. I'd imagine they trained very similarly to this way back.
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Loved to see how the techniques actually look like in full gear, not just in pictures
I like how you can acutally feel the sportsmanship and fairness. Nobody seems getting salty, everyone acknowledges the opponents victory.
It's because it wasn't a tournament :v
@@Sk0lzky Facts tho
I can't believe Even after so many years medieval armor is still in use
Nice throw at 3:57
If I'll ever need to sell someone on Harnischfechten, this is the one video I'll default to.
Good scrap lads, that was some proper sparring!
They're going hard with these pollaxes, you don't often see that! Awesome armpit snipes too
Great fights! Look forward to seeing more ringen am schwert in future videos!
wow this is the best. That was quite entertaining gentlemen.
Love this video. Everyone is very good .
Nice, this is how a real armored combat should look like, not some hollywood nonsense
very cool! :D
God bless ya Henry!
Wie schade, nur ein Video?!? Würde gerne mehr sehen
Super well guys where are you located
Bonk
Concussion check at 1:17....woooowee
he was fine,
you can see that my blow bodily pushes his centre of gravity to the right of his right foot, which also ws on the atual axe, hence his foot slips
so the torque, high centre of gravity and loss of foot grip bodily knock him down, but he didn't get a very hard hit. The rubber axe heads do help there, too.
He waa entirely congruent, non-dizzy, no headache and straaight viewed and quick in reaction afterwards.. i checked...
the helmets are actually really good for this, if in good repair and fit.
but it is kinda funny with the discussion in the background about if helmet hits should count, and then immediately there is a knock down :)
Генерал! Что то они какие - то вяленькие. Усилить лупашево!
those pollarms look really long for a Mordaxt
they are, if anything, a little short, compared to originals
the bladed ones tended to be a little shorter at 180-200 cm usually, whereas the beaked types are usually well over 2 meters tall.
this is mirrored in iconography. for every short pollaxe there seem to be 50 taller than the man.
Some of these 'short' examples are perspective, some are actual one handed weapons, confused to be two handed.
but there are a few instances were you do indeed see shorter axes, these are however very much the exception.
then there is an actual source that says a pollaxe should be a span taller than the user.
these are actually a little less than that... for me, anyway, and most were my ones that i brought, though most other people had similar lengths
@@airnt I am totally not saying that you are wrong, I'd actually love to use a longer one, but that's news to me. Any pointers where I can see that in iconography or a museum piece?
@@airnt Quick example which I was using as a guide so far: wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMP/eMuseumPlus?service=direct/1/ResultListView/result.t1.collection_list.$TspTitleImageLink.link&sp=10&sp=Scollection&sp=SfieldValue&sp=0&sp=0&sp=2&sp=SdetailList&sp=0&sp=Sdetail&sp=0&sp=F&sp=T&sp=0
and thats a pretty short one
@@florianamann7978 the main ones i based myself on were teh one int he royal armouries with the original shaft , at 1824 grams, but also the ones in the Dutch army museum, that is used to work at (now part of the NMM).
the link didn't work for me, as it just defaulted to the wallace collection website, which one of them were you talking about? aren't they the axe-bladed ones? those are generally shorter and can be a touch heavier. (though the ranges of weight overlap)
there is so many depictions i don't know where to start.
A few of the shorter ones that are well known is a pair of guys fighting where the axes are held along the line of sight, perspectively shortening the axe in the image. This is much more cler by the riy of guys standing waiting their turn, leaning on their axes and all of them are taller then themselves.
there is another famous one with a guy with yellow mail and a red brigandine, with a really stout and short axe coming up to his eyeline or thereabouts, next to him, however are three guys (in venetian armour?) with axes clearly longer than themselves.(again leaning on them)
the list goes on. so often in the same image as a short example we can often find several much longer examples.
the fencing books are of a similar ilk, especially the talhoffer editions are clear, but also the paulus kal depictions. Falkner too. they show some techniques where the axes are held vertically and (from the painters point fo view) just behind the man, and they are essentially taller than them by about a span.
I think it was pietro monte that says they shoudl be a span taller than the user, i need to check i remembered that right.
@@airnt First: Thx for the long answer! Greatly appreciated!
The Wallace Link linked to Item A926 which is an Axe bladed one, but every one in the collection is ~1,80m/6ft, as were the others I found in other collections (The MET, Royal Armouries Museum) that gave informations about the length. The RAM is, sadly, sparse with informations with the overall dimensions of their objects. Do you happen to know the Object Number you based yours on? As I said: I only found surviving examples that are of the short kind, so far
Sadly from your other paragraphs "is a pair of guys fighting" etc. I am not sure how to find these depictions. Any pointers how to find what you are describing?
Fencing books are a great Idea, I only read Fiore so far and they use the short ones: fightlikefiore.com/pollaxe-posta-breve-la-serpentina-short-serpent-guard/
I'll check the others
ガバガバで草。なのか…？
Thực tế lưỡi kiếm rất sắc tại sao võ sỹ lại nắm 1 tay vào lưỡi kiếm, không sợ bị đứt tay ah, chẳng qua kiếm tập mài cùn nên mới cầm vậy, không thực tế
Người ta là hiệp sĩ ba ôi, khi đánh nhau bọn họ mặc giáp từ đầu tới chân trong đó có cái găng tay bằng kim loại nữa, đứt kiểu gì
Kỹ thuật đấu kiếm chính thức của họ như vậy mà ba kêu là không thực tế
Cầm kiếm bằng cả 2 tay như vậy để có thể dễ dàng canh chuẩn mũi nhọn của kiếm vào điểm chí mạng, không được che chắn bởi giáp của đối phương chẳng hạn như là 2 bên nách, phần kẽ hở của mắt trên mũ... Do ở giai đoạn này, hầu hết binh lính các nước Châu Âu đều mặc giáp dạng tấm như trong video, kiếm thường không chém xuyên qua được đâu, nên mới chuyển sang đâm chọt nhau vào chỗ hiểm
Great LARP video!
It's larping in the same way boxing is.
It isn't.
@@deece1482 doesn't look like boxing. In boxing you don't dress up and roleplay being a knight from days of yore.
I wouldn't really call it LARPing. Without armor, those poleaxes/halberds - even if made of rubber - could cause some lasting damage with those powerful strikes to the head.
@@mr31337 Larping is like a tabletop rpg but preformative. This is just like medieval combat. I'd imagine they trained very similarly to this way back.
@@mr31337Yet it's a martial art - like boxing and unlike LARPing
People need this more than modern lgbt dance