2024 Ducati Panigale V4S | Now A Decent Road Bike??
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I was invited to the Ducati media day where I was invited to take out the latest iteration of the Ducati Panigale V4S. In the past I found this an incredibly uncomfortable road machine, but the recent versions I had heard it had been made more comfortable
Its time to find out if its true!
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To be fair, they’re selling Teslas and Ferraris with 1000 BHP as road cars which are equally pointless. I guess it’s as much about flexing, bling and bragging rights as it is about being an effective road car/bike you can fully enjoy and exploit on the road. However, whilst I don’t want a Tesla Plaid, I’d still love having a Panigale V4S in my garage!
Spot on, well said.
Its about having a beast between your legs
How does no one get this. I would argue the the 911 Turbo S is just as "pointless" but no one says that when they review those cars. Sometimes the motorcycle journo industry needs to get its head out of it's ass.
@kingdan7458 where theirs a will theres a way😮
I think some want to own something that is amazing, beyond the norm. It is an amazing feeling to be connected to a machine that basically has superpowers. This could be a desire even if no one else could see it.
Owning a 2023 S1000RR for daily I just can say: These kind of bikes become more confortable as many hours you workout weekly in the gym.
Sorry my english not perfect. 😊❤
Yup, the people complaining about "weight on the wrists" don't have the core strength to sit on a sport bike, plain and simple. You're never supposed to be putting weight on the wrists, you're supposed to be holding yourself upright with your core muscles.
@@nordstar2698I might add, when people talk about “the riding position” on my 2022 GSXR 750, I tell them their problem is they do not know how to sit in a sport bike properly.😁
It’s awesome to tell Harley riders they don’t know how to sit on my bike! First I have them sit on it, then I sit on my bike in front of them and start telling them all the things they were doing incorrect.
It’s even funnier when they think they are awesome riders, tell me they had a sport bike before, and I get to embarrass them.
I have a good healthy lower back so riding a sportbikes is easier for me on long than my Speed Twin 1200
My mate has just recently got a V4, they are works of art. I found it really big compared to my s1krr, feels like a bigger bike overall. Everyone saying you cant use the power on the road on these...thats literlaly any performance vehicle in the world, enjoy them for what they are, absolutley ludicrous rocket ships.
Your sportbike days are never over if you are a skilled rider and you are in shape. Look at Josh Hayes in motoamerica supersport at 48 racing the teenager he coaches. In my late 40’s and 50’s I was consumed with retirementese, give up track and sportbikes etc. it’s all bullshit. I bought a vstrom 1000 thinking that’s what guys my age ride only to find myself riding way beyond its limits in the canyons. I immediately went out and bought an MT-10. Be safe but don’t throw in the towel until they close the coffin lid. 😉
Unfortunately I cannot have my legs at the required angle anymore at 68, without hip pain. Enjoy while you can.😂
I’m 61 and have a V4S and get it well above 100 mph on each ride.
A tangent, but I wish Honda would revive their interest and expertise in V4s. The vfr1200 was poorly targetted - like a weird cross of a pan and classic vfr - but that engine could've been well developed
100%. As someone who has owned many vfr's and has one in the garage currently I wish they made a 1000cc vfr sport tourer with decent suspension and brakes plus 150hp and 110nm torque. It would sell bucket loads
@@michaelhart5886 I would want one for sure
@@michaelhart5886Amen !
I’ve owned the VFR 1200F and still own the VFR 1200X, highly underrated bikes. I just bought a ZX4RR to race and I would really love a new Honda V4 400cc super sport bike.
Sales were so poor they didn’t even bother with updating the bikes to Euro4 let alone 5 or 5+. Seems like buyers made the decision for Honda. Shame. I always felt the 1200 engine wasn’t quite set up or tuned right in my VFR1200 - only started to make sense from 70mph. It was horrible at slow speeds.
I'm 58 years old, have a V4 Pani Corse which I've done 24,000 miles on, it's by far the best bike I've ever owned. I have several other Ducatis but everything feels second best compared to the V4 Pani. It's a truly beautiful thing. Heats never bothered me either and I lived in Mallorca with it for several years. I find it pretty comfortable actually. Oxford do a little plastic cruise control thing that fits on the grip and costs £8, transforms it on long distances. Your never too old😊💪👍😂😂
How's the reliability been? Seriously considering one of these soon
@@TrulyUniqueOne newer ducatis are pretty good mate. I've got a 1199
1299 and a v4 corse.
Only prob I've had is a quick shifter sensor go on my 1299. Some services can be expensive with the 15k mile desmo service. Normal annual service is OK at around 280 to 300 quid
V4S is a track tool with road legal hardware. I sat on one and immediately after booked an appointment with my chiropractor. It has one of the most extreme ergos of any road bike out right now.
I own a Panigale V2 and I absolutely love it even tho it’s a bit small for me, Ducati have it in for servicing so they gave me a 24’ V4 to use yesterday. It’s a perfect fit for me but I’m really not a fan of it.
@LambChopRides Can you please do a comparo on the entry level suspension on the v4? Thanks mate.
Killin' my shoulders just watching you on that - a lovely thing though, no denying (although let's face it the early Panigale's were prettier....)
Haha yeah not for you just yet Andy! 👍
Great review Chopsy. Got my cup of coffee to watch you hoon around on the "Expensive Toy". And so true. 😃
And I agree totally about the lack of cruise control. I mean you said absolutely perfectly, these sports bikes need this more than adventure & touring bikes!!
Can't wait for your next review.
I also can't wait until KTM release their 1390 Super Duke GT for you to test!!
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Thanks Michael 👍
looks very uncomfortable to me!! But it is a beauty…
Great review again Chopsie! BTW your discount code for Helmet City doesn't work for Arai visors.
Another great Chopsy review. Its a super looking bike, really love the red of a Ducati.
Just thinking maybe overall the S1000RR might be a better buy for me and with having the cruise control it will help. Being in my late 50s I need all the help. However I thought of getting another GSXR1000.
Once you've ridden a ducati they become addictive. Love my SF V2
Love my V2 too 💪
Guys Im lost between SF V4S and Pani V4 , I like both but cant chose which one is best for me ...
The Ferrari of motorcycles.
100% own one, yes, but have a 2nd daily bike, like a Streetfighter v2!!
Special occasion machine.
❤️😍😘
A nice bike I'm sure but I really can't get excited about this sort of thing on todays pothole, traffic strewn roads
You hardly ever got out of 2nd which kinda says it all in some ways
A bit mad that a 1299 panigale is more road worthy than another bike now somehow.
Hello, Chop! How wonderful that you got to ride and enjoy this incredible machine. I have always loved these bikes. Sadly, my old bones will not really allow me to ball myself up in the manner I would need to to ride one today. That said, if I ever get the opportunity, I will certainly try one out! 😁 In the meantime, I will live vicariously through you. Just hearing the enthusiasm in your voice makes me smile! Really enjoying your content, mate. Cheers.
Thanks very much Dennis 👍
And thany you for a great review of a truly great bike. Perfect👍👍
Ducati truly tugs at the heart of the enthusiast.
Oh how I would love to have one….
Who even compares the H2 to these bikes (Pani or S1kRR). it's over a hundred pounds heavier, it's like comparing a drag car to an F1... both blazing fast but with completely different applications.
10,000 views in 12 hours, well done!! I love this channel thank you for making such great content every time!
Glad you enjoy it buddy 👍
I bought a 2020 V4S new and after 4 years ownership I can say, you’ll never buy a road going V4 with a thrashed engine. They are just so fast you can’t use the engine to its full potential. At 6’4” aged 47 I find the V4 pretty comfortable and I will ride all day, although I spent half my life racing so maybe that helps. The one thing that I don’t like are the standard spring rates. I had to change front and rear springs to get anywhere near a sensible sag setting. The level of feedback once it’s set up properly though is stunning. Agreed, about the heat, never ride more than a few miles in jeans! I have a scar on the inside of my left knee to prove it!
Chopsy!! As always. Thank you for sharing the fun of your riding experiences with us.
Query: this Pani V4S…or the 2023+ S1000RR M Sport?
ı have both panigale.
@@umitmustafaalaca4043 why would you say that ?Please share your experience since you have both
@@ghumnz Everything in the BMW S1000RR is so perfect it's boring
I’m happy with my 2023 Monster SP, The riding position would be too much for my 61 yr old Frame. I also have a 2023 Triumph Rocket 🚀 3R, that I Pose with and let others enjoy the massiveness of that Beast. 👍🇺🇸🇬🇧🇭🇺
The Panigale V4/V4S/V4R will NEVER be as "Refined" as the bmw s1000rr stock for stock versions; both in electronics as well as ergo riding(not to mention the ratio of creature comforts) for daily usage; especially if you are 6'1" - 6'4" tall !!!
Not really a test,is it,wot with,'head teacher'in front,and speed thingy's hidin' in the hedge,gawd,you need y'er own racetrack,nice try,if I wo'z head honcho they'd be no speed limits,at least once,a week,do'or die,might live't'try,tally oh
You could post a great time round the tt course on her and ride her home what’s not to like thank god for Ducati great insight into a dream bike thank you
Had my MY23 v4s for a year and a half, love it. Would highly recommend turning wheelie control off, and run it on full power. Mind blowing
I'd love one but it sounds like I made the right choice buying my 2022 S1000RR for daily use and sport touring. Ducati may have improved the ergos, I can live without cruise control (and a fuel gauge?) but if the Panigale still burns your leg in anything other than leathers (literally leaving red marks on skin) then it isn't a viable road bike.
Chopsy riding in my playing field. Please tell me you got to visit Guilks cafe at the bottom of edge hill. Great spot. Caffeine and machine only up the road too. Great bike. You'd love tye 1390 on some of the roads around here
No sorry... lovely countryside though! Sorry I missed you 😁
I've been lucky enough to own a couple of monsters, and think all Ducati's are "expensive toys" - but aren't they all just gorgeous! The sound from their engines are just so delicious and second to none! 😄
Great video mate you making me want another ducati.
I have ducati 748
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The reason I wont buy a panigale is because of the heat. Such a shame as they are in my eyes the ultimate sports bike, especially with all them revs!
Ps: the plush ride is probably the same as my rsv4 factory, meaning the reason its plush is because its too softly sprung.
Put a cable tie on the fork leg and it will be hitting full travel really easy.
You can up the damping but then ride is super hard and unbearable.
The only way is to fit stronger springs
I tested one in November in Arizona, and it was STILL a weenie roasting, bun burner. I did look at the aftermarket heat mitigation insulation kit, but I wised up and realized that I don't need a bike that sits in the summer.
yes it IS fast. However to tell us whether its a good road bike, why not tailor the electronics to optimum settings for the road, then tell test ride it.
Hi chopsy....it's good to see you are trying to keep the sportsbike genre alive....not many tubers bother anymore......even though I'm not a sportsbike fan....like others have said...they can't be used on our roads realistically....keep up the good work...!
No problem someone has to do it! 😄👍
@@LambChopRidesIndeed
"There's a reason it's red" 😅🌶
Sounds amazing, and I’m sure the mic isn’t picking up half of the ‘drama’. Good video 👍🏻
Looks a ridiculous riding position. I'll stick to my 2002 ZX6R, comfy as an armchair.😊
Wait a minute! Your hands are less than 12 inches apart and you call those "wide handlebars?" I guess everything is relative. I guess I'm getting old, but the whole idea of treating this like a daily rider just makes my body hurt! For me, this bike only makes sense on the track.
Oh God certainly not a daily this one! But bars are very wide 'for a sportsbike' 👍
I’d have the Tuono instead sounds way better
I owned a 2020 Tuono before trading it in for a V4S with a full Termi system and I have to agree……the Aprilia had a nicer noise.
Great vid & a stunning bike. Although weirdly wouldn't want one. It would be wasted on my ability but I'd also be loathed to put too many miles on it, get it dirty or mark it etc. Pointless I know lol.
So basically you ride everywhere under nationals in 2nd gear?
Chops restraint and pushing the bike to its limits would be very difficult for anyone that purchase this beauty
Dont worry cruise control will be ciming anyday now that i bought a streetfighter v4s
A bike for dentists and lawyers.
I am happy with that!
Great review,.. however is it just me ,.. but I can’t stand the noise of a V4 in a funny way it reminds me of my friends late 90s Honda VFR 750/800. Absolutely way too much for the road. I’m sure it has a fan base though. Dave
Gonna buy me that bike soon here in germany
nice review
Literally the equivalent of having a 20” dong and being able to use only a third of it… amazing though! 😂
I can use just over a third, thanks 😂
Still overtake any car in the road tho 😂
I thought it was the equivalent of having a half inch dong and the motorcycle is the extension to make one feel whole
Would rather have 20” or 7”? That is the question.
Can’t use them properly on the track either in case you bin it. Rich boys’ toy.
I have a 1299s & I don’t give a sht what anybody thinks of it
Brilliant video, panigale v4s or s1000rr m package? If u have to pick one??😊
Yeah tough one Erik! Well actually that comparison could be coming 🤞
@@LambChopRides awesome!
I took one of these out when they first launched back in 2018 I think, blew my mind then, so god only knows what it’s like now! Dream Superbike for me. Great review chops even if you were held back 👍🏻
Thanks buddy 👍
Nice one chopsy best looking bike the panigale !!! Good to see some dry roads again is it not .😁👍👍
Yes indeed! 😁👍
Bike fits well for a big lad chops
Yeah I was actually surprised how OK I looked on it when I saw the video! 😆
Please everyone DO NOT FALL into the ducati TRAP, they release a NEW model every bloody week. And once you buy one you feel like you just need to keep upgrading. AND that's every single model irrespective of cost, when you think 60k and you've bought the top model , the most limited edition, NEXT week they will bring out a more limited model. It never ends,
I saw a couple of guys testing one on track in the USA against an old gixxer thou: the gixxer beat the Ducati. They couldn't understand it, had the bike checked out and all was fine. Then they realised that Ducati had softened the suspension to make it road friendly, so the soft suspension was letting it down on track.
Zack and Ari were the ones testing the old K6 against the Duc. Pretty cool an older super bike with no electronics beat out a new sportbike with everything electronic under the sun
@@EpiceverythingProductions Oh come on. Clearly rider mod. Put Jorge Martin on those bikes and he'll be ten seconds faster on the Panigale 😂
Things that didn’t happen for £100 that duke would run rings around the Suzuki by a large margin 😂
@@DucatiDaleexcept it didn't..Zack and Ari are extremely skilled riders. Same tires and everything on both bikes. Suzuki beat the Ducati multiple times.
@@DucatiDale Yet it didn't. Fact is Ducati is garbage and falls flat on their face against the Japanese.
Crying about the power of a “SUPER bike” is wild. No one has ever complained about “too much” power in hellcats, teslas or other super cars that have no business being 800+ horse power. If you don’t like it stick to a small cc bike.
I have just Ordered the Honda CBR 1000RR R SP 2024 FOR THE TRACK AND A Ducati Streetfighter V4s for the road.
Fwrrucio was buying every Ferrari they bought out ..brand new.. cause he made tractors. The has the money.. he couldn't stand howbit was so unreliable..so made a better car. Named after his som Lambougin Muira.. which was faster and more reliable than any Ferrari.. painting ypir junk red.. don't make it good. 😅
You think its hot in 17 degrees, I rode it in Thailand in 34 degrees! Fantastic fun but I came to the conclusion if you ever want to have children, you shouldn't ride this. It poached my nads! You never mentioned the brakes, that was the other standout for me. The brakes were incredible, it was like hitting an invisible wall. What a machine.
Chopsy how do we feel about the v2 over this as a sportbike daily? weekend warrior with some daily during the week type of riding, 250-500 miles a week.
If you want a daily, buy a S1KRR. You get electronic suspension, fuel gauge, cruise control. None of that on the V2 plus you get 30-40 more horsepower
I have a 2016 gen2 Panigale R, last of the ‘R’ twins. This sounds very familiar on throttle even though it’s a V4.
As a sportsbike rider of 30 + years I can see how things have progressed from useable 750’s to exciting 1000’s to .. well, insane 1100’s now, the bikes are so good but yes too much for the road, but so is a new Porsche gt3 etc. all I will say is we have never had it so good even if they are so expensive I can’t afford one !
People go on about to much for the road on to many bikes I test rode a transalp and had it at 120mph should we all ride 125cc that top out at 70-75mph? 😂 the sf v4s on bike world drag races mullered everything so as long as you ride it properly and not go around in 6th you’ll smash all the other nakeds on a road setting when people say the powers higher up the range rev it more then use that range 😂
Love everything about that bike and great commentary as always, but I can't get my head around ever wanting to own one, even if I had the cash and the necessary riding skillsets. Taking pride of place in my living room maybe, but as a practical road bike, it just doesn't 'cut the mustard' for me, despite the improvements you mentioned. Thanks anyway for the insight.
Why do people care how i spend my money? I own a ducati and i love it. Id have 100 of them if i could. Stop complaining and just appreciate it. I appreciate a Bugatti without talking crap on everyone that owns one
Chopsie, what was the heat like?
People are reporting Blisters ffs.
The Sfv4 and Pani share engines but it seems being naked pays off regarding getting rid of engine heat. The fairings seems to push all the air out at your calf
Still the best looking eye candy out there. Haven’t paid attention to what it cost to own these days. Even if I could afford it I still probably couldn’t afford it. Lol
What's more comfy for a tall rider, Ducati v4 or S1000rr?
S1000RR Ben 👍
@@LambChopRides nice one 👍
I guess the BMW regardless of your height.
It’s fuckin JUNE and the roads are shit…
wtf is going on in this world …..
I can cope with the weather. What I can’t cope with is the British acceptance that filling potholes is some sort of substitute for proper road maintenance and resurfacing.
Aren’t we all ashamed of ourselves when we visit the continent and see how functioning societies and governments actually operate?
@@PDCRed Why should I be ashamed because my local authority is shit? I pay my council tax, hardly my fault they’re incompetent. And don’t fall into that trap of thinking the grass is greener, every country has their issues..
Beautiful and sounds great but $32K here in the US, can get 2 really nice bikes for that.
MV Agusta is the Ferrari of the motorcycle world. Ducati are mainstream.
Both are quite mid
No they are the Lamborghini!
@@crad5476 cant be mid when youre dominating. ducati ftw!!
@@AffanMohammed-rq4is Ducati is nowhere near dominating tho
@awayinaranger1301 This is about roadbikes, not about racing and their drivers skill. They are not very good bikes.
An example as to why the baby Ducati is always better for the road. Look at the gear indicator.
I test road one and I could barely get the bike out of first gear. even on the bigger main road I went on the bike just goes so fast in first and second that I'm not sure if I ever even went into 3rd gear on it. This bike would only make sense to own if you had some really big open roads to ride it on where you could actually take advantage of it's performance. and I'm to old to be leaning to the bars so much for any amount of time. my Ducati 939 super sport has way more usable power for most kinds of riding. plus I can handle the ergonomics for more than a half an hour.
The bike looks so small with you riding it. I test rode the previous generation, and you're right, the heat is unbearable, if you're stuck in traffic on a hot summers day, your legs get scorched, like sunburn. It's a nice machine and it's place is on a track.
Guys, is it okay to got that one as first one and ride it in wet mode first seasons? Ofc do not ride as a daredevil.
It's definitely not advisable. Good chance you'll drop the bike or have too much power to handle. But some people have probably done it ok.
I could afford one, just, but it would be wasted on me. Pity really.
Awesome bike...if only I had the money. Great review.
I love this bike.But I think the new bmw has it hands down.
Still love one if the bank allows it though 😂
Is it E5+?
what a beast chopsy love it mate !!!!
I think I'm 5 stone and 30 years too old for it, but nice to watch\ listen to one.
How are the mirrors? They look like they vibrate a lot so are pretty much useless?
I wouldn't care if it was as comfy as the tower of london,I 'd still want one.
I own a 2019. Mirrors useless, power snatchy from closed. Fuel gauge, errr no. Does any of that matter, not a jot. :D
Is it supposed to be comfortable ? Get a Harley for that ?
Another great review, how did you find some of our local roads chopsy ?
Dosen't sound like a Ferrari, that distinction goes to my 1078 312rr
This, or the RSV4, or both?
I’d have bought an RSV4 if I hadn’t heard so many quality control horror stories, and I’ve have bought a V4S if I’d have done better at school.
Stunning bike Chops.. please do a Nanny free review when you can
Nothing will ever come close to the 916
Nice. Just too much for the road. 😂👍
V4E
I would love this machhine, have a super duke r evo right now, but am looking for something to tour on and eventually get a sport bike again when I can afford it....was looking at the GS Adventure but also the Ducati Pikes Peak since id be trading in my Super Duke R....not sure which path ill take but Ducati sure does make a mean bike even if they dont make the most sense, you only live once (that we know of) nice video, ride safe!
What about the super Duke GT
Is this by any chance the Ducati roadshow? I recognise the convoy. We had one down at Sammy Millers in New Forest recently 👍🏻
No it was actually done by Ducati UK just for media as lots of video and photos provided 👍