There’s no way I need one of these , nor could I use a tenth of its potential, but really enjoyed seeing this beautiful bike on track. Fascinating review as usual, absolutely best RUclips bike channel out there - keep up the good work!!
At 2:40 it's like 90% WOT, at 63° lean angle, and the thing is not waving at all. Don't get me wrong it takes massive skill to go that fast, but I hope it is still fun and not to serious a bike.
I’m surprised you say you don’t see many Ducati superbikes at UK track days. Here in Australia they are VERY common. Late model Panigale V4’s and S1000RR’s are everywhere.
I'm in the minority but I think its better looking. 99% of track day riders would be just as quick on a prepped gsxr750 costing a quarter of the price.
Probably not as fast, but close, and they would get as much fun from the gixxer. I'm kind of waiting for the R9, it could lure me back to sportsbikes. GSR750 isn't sold anymore in a lot of places, sadly.
Sorry to say this mate but that’s just not true. I bought a 1299 Panigale for my first track day, and I smoked a lot of those old japanese “track bikes” in the afternoon sessions just coming out of corner. It’s just physics, double the power, 30% less weight
“Great review sir ! Quick question: Did you experience any uncomfortable heat from the engine and exhaust on the 2025 V4 on low speed , similar to what was reported with the previous models? Curious to know if Ducati has addressed that concern!
is that lean angle at 2:39 accurate? He hits 63 degrees lean angle!!!?? thats MotoGP levels. how much comes down to running slick tires versus DOT tire?
As i sit here with my cuppa ,this review is one of the best detailed of a sate of the art bike I have seen in a while thank's for all the effort you guys put in a fantastic overview .
Hi Michael, thanks for review ...I have 2 questions; 1-How about the engine heat (vs the previous one) 2-I am a casual rider and have a 2023 Ducati SFV4S would you reccommend to change to new Panigale for more thrill? Thank you Hakan
I love my Fred Flinstone 2018 V4S,it was nearly new when I bought it and after the 1198 I had before it nearly rides itself which I appreciate is a negative for some folk but I find it hard to grasp how Ducati have progressively made it easier to ride,does it put your riding gear away and make your tea for you now?!,but seriously this is very exciting indeed,the negative of the easy to ride thing is that you can achieve ballistic speeds without realising very easily indeed,it's fast and then some.
I have a 1098 and 1198.... I hate that it's turned into a bmw now. No character and not raw. Great for track but it basically rides for you. I wish they listened to people like Stoner rather than just being electronic focused with tunnel vision.
@damansbedi it's not a BMW bud as you know but it is faster for riders that aren't Casey Stoner or Alvaro Bautista, on the road in comparison the 1198 is a total pain unless you're on clear road and doing 70+mph. There's many political and technical reasons for the V4 coming along and riders of other brands will immediately feel at home on one but,it is a better bike in every way as progress dictates but I agree that for raw,visceral brute force and thoroughbred bad tempered 'ride hard or go home' riding then other than the Superleggera Panigale,the old machines have it.......if you're in the mood,obviously on a race track it's a different application.
@rohanalias9053 trust me,after the 1198 it's a complete breeze, somehow it manages to be faster,lighter,better handling ,more forgiving, supple and most incredible of all it's comfortable to ride,it's mind boggling that this bike was developed from a race bike.The 1198 family felt like a race bike on the road in a bad way although as i say on the open road,on smooth tarmac at high speed it was fabulous,at low speed in a convoy of crawling cars,lorries etc it was a painful chore.
No… because “every gram” counts lol… the review already said ducati don’t care coz they build this bike to be ridden fast.. fuel gauge will only slow u down 🤣
@@ewcha2 Honestly the heat is the main thing I dislike about the 1299. Looks great, relatively comfortable, throttle is great (with spacers added), super fast. The heat shield kit made it tolerable, not comfortable.
Maybe but the swingarm doesn't do it for me. I don't track my +20k bikes. When I want to have fun, I have the german Autobahn with a lot of unrestricted sections and if I fancy a 60 km ride, I have a fully 2 lanes unrestricted Autobahn for at least 20 km of fun. Then I ride home after a food break.
I've got a V4S and I bought it because i love the looks and it's a joy to ride,I couldn't give a rat's arse what anyone else thinks about it or me,I don't own a car and I'm not a millionaire,I suppose some people buy Ducati's to show off but I ride it because it's a magical machine and insane as it sounds at £28,000 for the current model I think it's worth every penny,the 999 had a double sider,either way Ducati always make their sport bikes look fabulous.
I also have a 23 V4R, retired racer. Got the exhaust, EVO3 software upgrade, carbon wheels, Love it! don't think the 25 would get me a better lap time, Like the linked brakes on the 25.
Wait a second, I think I’ll make this the next bike. The H2, the Fury, and always wanted a Ducati. Guess the BMW will never be😢. But ☺️ for what’s to come!
While this is a very stunning machine, it really sounds like the introduction of AI being introduced to motorcycles. I see the comments in regards to the legendary video of the K5 Vs v4, and the biggest thing I took away from that video was rider vs machine. If you even go back and watch, look at the K5 riders reaction when he finished his laps. He was so pumped, he said I don’t care if I won or lost that was so fun. Now I’m by far no expert, no MotoGP rider or wannabe, but it sounds like this bike is doing most of the work, at what point does rider skill come in to play? That was also a major difference in that video, the K5 rider had no aides. Oddly enough I’m Michael’s comparison between Panigale and BMW where he had a pro rider do laps on both with and without rider aides the BMW came out onto top in both, but more importantly without rider aides the lap times were faster. This easy to ride point, is it really a good thing, especially here in the US where as long as your pockets are deep enough once you get your license your free to get what ever you want. I know I’m gonna get thrashed, just a few thoughts, but great review nonetheless.
Bike looks absolutely stunning the double sided swinging arm looks like state of art design ... rest looks like Japanese which is good ....beautiful bike
This bike is surely the pinnacle of 4T superbikes, but it’s a shame we can’t have 2Ts anymore. Imagine a bike weighing 100lbs less with all the modern electronics, brakes, suspension, tires, frames etc. I don’t think the 4Ts would stand a chance.
@@rohanalias9053 I don’t see why they couldn’t have advanced electronics the 4Ts do for safety. They don’t need to be wild analog machines like the old 500s.
I love your reporting and journalism. Thank you for another great review. As a consumer we are very lucky and I cannot wait to see what will be the BMW response!
The "support race engineer for the day"- that's where I imagine AI has it's place - assisting learning, providing feedback and getting the rider to gradually take more and more control, and the electronics providing less and less of it. This while maintaining the performance the initial built in electronic settings provide while feeling more involved and in control. Perhaps that'll come with some future SP version or other.
I just want a supersport bike ie a bike that fits in the supersport 600 class. I dont need more than say 100-130hp but prefer rather a much lighter bike instead. Imagine if we got an v4 600, but I guess we will just get an parallel twin just like Aprilia did with the 660rs bike.
The Panigale V2 fits the new SSP600 regulation. That's weird but here it is. A V4 600 would make close to no sense at all (KTM is even thinking of an L4 for the 850 rule to come in MotoGP). I'm personnally waiting for the R9 and RC990 next year. These bikes should be awesome on track for the average rider (and the KTM will probably be even better for the fast ones).
Check how service intervals changed from shorter than Japanese to longer. Putting customer value first is the German way. Combined with Italian design it's world class.
The REAL question, is it finally quicker then Zack & Ari’s legendary old 2005 GSXR 1000? 😂
indeed .... had a lot of fun watching that experiment :)
imagine it versus a gen1 s1000rr!!😮
probably not, been spanking people left and right on an ktm950sm :P So the bike is only 50% of the equation.
The gixa k5 will kick hard that a## 🍑🦵 my bro They will do it for sure...
Wait N see...🧐
😂 Damn ! You had to go there…
I would just ride this on Sunday, carry a bottle of detail spray, a soft microfiber, and talk to it in my living room 👍🇭🇺
ye, ye, ye....
lol Wanka! HaHa!
How dare you ride it……you’ll get the tires dirty. What’s wrong with you 😂
That’s all I do with my current V4😍
Trust me that’ll wear off 😂😂😂
This bike is stunning, it has a mouth of a shark in the front the double swing arm design looks amazing Ducati did a great job.
Luckily it's also great to ride! Check out the fast lap in the video...
There’s no way I need one of these , nor could I use a tenth of its potential, but really enjoyed seeing this beautiful bike on track.
Fascinating review as usual, absolutely best RUclips bike channel out there - keep up the good work!!
That POV lap?!? The amount of time the throttle position was at 100% is completely nuts!!!!
At 2:40 it's like 90% WOT, at 63° lean angle, and the thing is not waving at all. Don't get me wrong it takes massive skill to go that fast, but I hope it is still fun and not to serious a bike.
It’s called riding the motorcycle like a man
The rider aides. Turn it ALL off, and then see what happens. Nice, very nice, nevertheless.
@StraightSuccess what's the point though, your paying through the nose for the electronics so might as well use it
@majinguru if you want fun, get a MT10. Because yes, the panigale is VERY serious.
Oh man 2025 Ducati Panigale V4S vs 2025 Honda Fireblade CBR-1000RR SP :O
As good s the fireblade is... CBR probaibly couldn't take with the previous V4S, let alone this one
@@weed46v4s is cheating for a start.. decat the new blade & it’s insanely quick. Be a good test I reckon
5am in Canada, got my Tim Hortons coffee and watching Neevsey... great start to the weekend.
honestly nothing beats the 1199/1299 model design for me
100% better Review then 44 Teeth. You are a real Pro! Thanks.
With carbon wings it looks really good
It’s really grown on me the looks, the dash looks fantastic. I wonder if a new Streetfighter is coming soon. Great video thank you 👍
I’m surprised you say you don’t see many Ducati superbikes at UK track days. Here in Australia they are VERY common. Late model Panigale V4’s and S1000RR’s are everywhere.
I'm in the minority but I think its better looking. 99% of track day riders would be just as quick on a prepped gsxr750 costing a quarter of the price.
Probably not as fast, but close, and they would get as much fun from the gixxer. I'm kind of waiting for the R9, it could lure me back to sportsbikes. GSR750 isn't sold anymore in a lot of places, sadly.
Ducati developed this bike to have a base to use for the R and beating BMW in WSBK
Sorry to say this mate but that’s just not true. I bought a 1299 Panigale for my first track day, and I smoked a lot of those old japanese “track bikes” in the afternoon sessions just coming out of corner. It’s just physics, double the power, 30% less weight
Only in your head...
@mauriziozanni4161 what amazing intellect. Thanks for your input 👍
Is this going to be my first Ducati Iam 60 and need a reason to keep fit. I would be a base model guy for sure!
The double-sided swing arm looks sick! Spaceship like
You grow up my friend… I remember you 20 years ago…
And you still ride …
Always up my friend…!!!
Can not wait to get mine on order
7:07 Carbon wings and race exhaust look great, shame about the cost though!
66 degrees of lean angle on road legal bike, amazing.
Best review in the business cheers Neevsey, incredible bike 👊🏻
The looks have grown on me I take it back. It’s a stunning bike and Neevesy done a top class review. I absolutely love the swing arm it’s so, factory!
It’s a stunning bike, the first time a saw it I loved it.
I am so happy these reviews are finally coming out. This bike is an absolute masterpiece, work of art and state of the art. I cannot wait to own one!
A beautiful thing but the electronics do all the work where does it end??
So automatic is sad.
WOW!
It's a 22nd Century spaceship for the road/track.
Makes you wonder what Ducatis will be like in 10 years.
I understand electronics are here to stay , all good until something goes haywire. Great review man 👍
“Great review sir ! Quick question: Did you experience any uncomfortable heat from the engine and exhaust on the 2025 V4 on low speed , similar to what was reported with the previous models? Curious to know if Ducati has addressed that concern!
Once again Michael Neeves delivers an incredible review. After this glowing review, what’s next?
Another major turning point for the Ducati super bike line up.... I wonder if it would have the 100th GP wins sticker on the tank...
I’ve liked it from day one. A very purposeful design - function over form. Like the looks or not, it’ll be the best overall and track Panigale yet
Great review! Wow, I think you just helped Ducati sell all of these out!
i can't afford it and i'm too old as well like 90% of the road riders out there but its very nice indeed
is that lean angle at 2:39 accurate? He hits 63 degrees lean angle!!!?? thats MotoGP levels. how much comes down to running slick tires versus DOT tire?
At 19:29 it shows 66 degrees....... Shame there's no g force measure.
He hit 66 degrees at 12:21 😱
Edge grip improvement was the racers wish
The accelerometer is measuring from level ground, while the track is banked. Means nothing.
As i sit here with my cuppa ,this review is one of the best detailed of a sate of the art bike I have seen in a while thank's for all the effort you guys put in a fantastic overview .
Does it come with a top box ?
Okay. It’s growing on me.
Hi Michael, thanks for review ...I have 2 questions;
1-How about the engine heat (vs the previous one)
2-I am a casual rider and have a 2023 Ducati SFV4S would you reccommend to change to new Panigale for more thrill?
Thank you
Hakan
Above all.. It so clean design.. Thing of beauty...
Excellent summary of changes, watching at night in a cab on the expressway. Classy review as always.
I love my Fred Flinstone 2018 V4S,it was nearly new when I bought it and after the 1198 I had before it nearly rides itself which I appreciate is a negative for some folk but I find it hard to grasp how Ducati have progressively made it easier to ride,does it put your riding gear away and make your tea for you now?!,but seriously this is very exciting indeed,the negative of the easy to ride thing is that you can achieve ballistic speeds without realising very easily indeed,it's fast and then some.
I have a 1098 and 1198.... I hate that it's turned into a bmw now. No character and not raw. Great for track but it basically rides for you. I wish they listened to people like Stoner rather than just being electronic focused with tunnel vision.
@damansbedi it's not a BMW bud as you know but it is faster for riders that aren't Casey Stoner or Alvaro Bautista, on the road in comparison the 1198 is a total pain unless you're on clear road and doing 70+mph. There's many political and technical reasons for the V4 coming along and riders of other brands will immediately feel at home on one but,it is a better bike in every way as progress dictates but I agree that for raw,visceral brute force and thoroughbred bad tempered 'ride hard or go home' riding then other than the Superleggera Panigale,the old machines have it.......if you're in the mood,obviously on a race track it's a different application.
That is crazy because the first iteration of the V4 panigale was hard to ride for many.....ducati made it easier by 2023
@rohanalias9053 trust me,after the 1198 it's a complete breeze, somehow it manages to be faster,lighter,better handling ,more forgiving, supple and most incredible of all it's comfortable to ride,it's mind boggling that this bike was developed from a race bike.The 1198 family felt like a race bike on the road in a bad way although as i say on the open road,on smooth tarmac at high speed it was fabulous,at low speed in a convoy of crawling cars,lorries etc it was a painful chore.
@@grahamsmith2022 you describing the 1198 makes want to ride it (on a track tho)
You really are the best. Love the details and passion you deliver.
How does it compare to the 2023 2024 V4R?
Wow like your own motogp bike on the road?.amazing how far bikes have come.
3rd time watching this bikes review all different presenters the others prattle on Neevesy shows us a hot lap he is just in a different league 🥰
Does it come with a complimentary trailer?
How would you compare this to the m1000rr?
I like the 916 the most so far 👌🏻...and its fast enough 😊
Would like to have known what the lap time progression you achieved through having the data guy assistance?
Does it have a fuel gauge finally?
No… because “every gram” counts lol… the review already said ducati don’t care coz they build this bike to be ridden fast.. fuel gauge will only slow u down 🤣
How’s the heat from the engine? Is it better than the previous model?
Nice joke 😂. Great sarcasm 😂
The real question that needs answering
My main question. The heat shield kit on my 1299S does help, but it is all relative. Now "dang that's warm" instead of the old "is this bike on fire".
@@sburns2421 had it on V2 before very minor difference with the heat shield hopefully the new V4 is much better in cooling
@@ewcha2 Honestly the heat is the main thing I dislike about the 1299. Looks great, relatively comfortable, throttle is great (with spacers added), super fast. The heat shield kit made it tolerable, not comfortable.
There is something about the front of the fairing that looks just not right for me. From there i like it.
I have irrelevant question, how does the v4r compare to the cbr1000rr r on the track, I mean, which one would you choose and why
Thanks for another great review. U r appreciated
The new Ducati CBR600RR looks good.
lol, I see what you did.. yes similar right down to the winglets 😅
It seems DUCATI designers have taken inspiration from Predator movie
Looks like a lobster to me
@@Bumbaclot213 yup. now i see the same aswell
Best ducati superbike?
Maybe but the swingarm doesn't do it for me. I don't track my +20k bikes. When I want to have fun, I have the german Autobahn with a lot of unrestricted sections and if I fancy a 60 km ride, I have a fully 2 lanes unrestricted Autobahn for at least 20 km of fun. Then I ride home after a food break.
Original Panigale (1199) is the best looking.
Performance-wise, yes! Aethestically, ok. But the carbon wings does made it looks better
I like the swingarm and I like the sharper look the bike has but I hate the wings, can they be removed?
Sure just ride on track with Pedro Acosta.
What time did you get ?
Makes sense the double sided swing arm. Good that Ducati finallychanged that! Not just for posers!
Agreed
I've got a V4S and I bought it because i love the looks and it's a joy to ride,I couldn't give a rat's arse what anyone else thinks about it or me,I don't own a car and I'm not a millionaire,I suppose some people buy Ducati's to show off but I ride it because it's a magical machine and insane as it sounds at £28,000 for the current model I think it's worth every penny,the 999 had a double sider,either way Ducati always make their sport bikes look fabulous.
I don't think £30k is unreasonable considering what you get, but the cost of the race technician's time to help you set it up would be the kicker.
My second time coming back to this video, this bike is gouges can’t wait when Ducati brings out the new V4R in this platform.
Cool bike and great review.
Love the dash doesn't have the same glare issue😂 but this or my 23 v4r?
I also have a 23 V4R, retired racer. Got the exhaust, EVO3 software upgrade, carbon wheels, Love it! don't think the 25 would get me a better lap time, Like the linked brakes on the 25.
Wait a second, I think I’ll make this the next bike. The H2, the Fury, and always wanted a Ducati. Guess the BMW will never be😢. But ☺️ for what’s to come!
Will this technology carry into the V2, since a lot of it is electronics?
While this is a very stunning machine, it really sounds like the introduction of AI being introduced to motorcycles. I see the comments in regards to the legendary video of the K5 Vs v4, and the biggest thing I took away from that video was rider vs machine. If you even go back and watch, look at the K5 riders reaction when he finished his laps. He was so pumped, he said I don’t care if I won or lost that was so fun. Now I’m by far no expert, no MotoGP rider or wannabe, but it sounds like this bike is doing most of the work, at what point does rider skill come in to play? That was also a major difference in that video, the K5 rider had no aides. Oddly enough I’m Michael’s comparison between Panigale and BMW where he had a pro rider do laps on both with and without rider aides the BMW came out onto top in both, but more importantly without rider aides the lap times were faster. This easy to ride point, is it really a good thing, especially here in the US where as long as your pockets are deep enough once you get your license your free to get what ever you want. I know I’m gonna get thrashed, just a few thoughts, but great review nonetheless.
Its sadly all electronics today and people care more about nanny features. 😢
Electronics improve safety and performance. If you want more danger switch them off. Up to you...
Incredible, any news on the V4 R for 2025, whether it will incorporate features from the 2025 V4 or stay the same as 2023/2022?
Bike looks absolutely stunning the double sided swinging arm looks like state of art design ... rest looks like Japanese which is good ....beautiful bike
Would love to pop down at the local Lidl with this bad boy, would be limited to buy stuff that can fit on my pockets though
Another great review from Neevesy
How does it compare to the “old” V4 R?
This bike is surely the pinnacle of 4T superbikes, but it’s a shame we can’t have 2Ts anymore. Imagine a bike weighing 100lbs less with all the modern electronics, brakes, suspension, tires, frames etc. I don’t think the 4Ts would stand a chance.
What’s the “T” stand for in your comment when you mention 4T and 2T - ??
@@darylclifford 4 stroke and 2 stroke.
Even if the 2t bikes existed , the amount of inexperienced idiots on 2 wheels now would spike accidents and deaths
@@rohanalias9053 I don’t see why they couldn’t have advanced electronics the 4Ts do for safety. They don’t need to be wild analog machines like the old 500s.
@@BlaineRush-b8h its the emissions and stuff rn if there weren't those , we could use electronics to deliver the two stroke experience
love the beginning with fading generations
I love your reporting and journalism. Thank you for another great review. As a consumer we are very lucky and I cannot wait to see what will be the BMW response!
awesome video neevsy👍
Very professional presentation and very interesting...well done
Great video . Thanks
Beautiful awesome bike! But way out of my price and ability! But really great that Ducati make it! I just get the poster!😂😂
I wonder where Al (44teeth) would of been with a lap time…
Even if he was quicker, Neevsey is still king road tester…
Would this be ok for first bike
Ask yourself if you require a nuclear missile on your first hunt and you'll have your answer.
@@RS-kt6bo Lol...... and by the way, what's the fuel consumption 🤣🤣
I like it looks better seeing someone on the bike!
Hi neves,
Amazing review as usual 👏
Quick question: Is the 5 spoke forged aluminum wheels marchesini ?
Thanks
Probably? Brembo owns Marchesini, and Ducati has strong ties to Brembo.
No, Ducati Made.
Beautiful bike, plus good video 😊
1:10 a wild Zack Courts appears!
15:37 hey hey he touch the track limit 😆
Just look at it in flesh at Malaysian Motogp, not bad...looks fresh. And I think the 999 history repeats.
The dash showed 66 degres in right hander corner...is it possible?
The "support race engineer for the day"- that's where I imagine AI has it's place - assisting learning, providing feedback and getting the rider to gradually take more and more control, and the electronics providing less and less of it. This while maintaining the performance the initial built in electronic settings provide while feeling more involved and in control. Perhaps that'll come with some future SP version or other.
Amazing, but crashing one at this price would be nuts.
Had to re watch the lap a few times to check out the dash
mental POV
Want one, but in the yellow that the 748/916 used to be available in 🥰
Would love to see if this would have a faster track time than the s1000rr
It's all about the rider and your personal taste
I just want a supersport bike ie a bike that fits in the supersport 600 class. I dont need more than say 100-130hp but prefer rather a much lighter bike instead. Imagine if we got an v4 600, but I guess we will just get an parallel twin just like Aprilia did with the 660rs bike.
You think Ducati will make a parallel twin?
@@jonathanmasterson3100 they already have the v4, so just like aprilia they can just lop off the rear cylinder bank and tada.
@@Pillokun hopefully 😅… I could possibly afford a Ducati if they do !!!
The Panigale V2 fits the new SSP600 regulation. That's weird but here it is. A V4 600 would make close to no sense at all (KTM is even thinking of an L4 for the 850 rule to come in MotoGP). I'm personnally waiting for the R9 and RC990 next year. These bikes should be awesome on track for the average rider (and the KTM will probably be even better for the fast ones).
@@fabiena1787 it is heavy and if we are honest it is basically old school Sbk performance as it is a litre bike.
But is it better than the new blade?
What also helped Ducati a lot (although I wasn't sure it would when it was 1st reported on) was Audi's involvement/money.
Thats why in Italy we sadly call it Ducaudi!
Check how service intervals changed from shorter than Japanese to longer. Putting customer value first is the German way. Combined with Italian design it's world class.
I don’t know what to look at during the lap, my eyes stuck on the crazy lean angles
nice, great review
Very interested in a future review showing how it does on the street in every day driving.
Don’t see many at track days due to the fact it’s a fortune to repair if you bin it.
Also most are at the coffee shops
It's growing on me, slowly but surely
Lap time was 4 seconds faster than 44teeth 😂😂😂 I hope this comment will start some sort of a “news channel GP”
Chris from “bike world” doesn’t hang around either!!
that was Valia´s lap time
Any views on the new Kawasaki ninja H2 R 340hp supercharged 2024