I love that there was a continuation of this story. I remember hating this guy so much in the first film and this delve a little bit into his back story. It seems like he was already troubled from a very young age and headed down the wrong path which escalated when he became a teenager. Now as an adult, he is finally feeling remorse for the part that he played in the mother/daughter deaths. Powerful final scene as well.
@Aunty Linda I totally agree! It is NEVER in my eyes going to be okay, justified, or explainable when the abused turns abuser! If you know what it feels like to be a victim, why on earth would it EVER be okay for you to become the perpetrator?? If you were in that position and felt helpless, then be an ADVOCATE. IF you become an abuser, you're just repeating that cycle of abuse. Hurt people should not hurt other people.😶
@@detrajackson5992 it’s 90% of the WHY of an abuser so you both best just RADICALLY ACCEPT FACTS!!! Wtf so you want to deny reality? What you think quakes this crap….? Let me guess…..evil? The devil? Unbelievable you both just want to deny reality ….IT IS INTERGENERATIONAL Sooooo glad there are people with BRAINS and basic abilities to grasp how things work and the open enough mind to see it. You’re the EXACT kind of people and mob mentality that keep this abuse cycle going. Ignorance is ignorance……🤮
@Marcus Turdwell yeah it's bizarre the way bullies dont see their part in an interlocking system, a dynamic between multiple actors that comprise the bullying behaviors- that system being unable to even exist without those various parts (people). All it takes is one person to be liiiiike WTF, cut it out douchebags! to stop the entire dynamic long term. Those "it was all banter and fun" bullies will never admit that they were cowards.
No sympathy for him. For 10 years they were bullying them. He didn't regret he got scared because he was getting bullied by the people . His friends should also pay the consequences.
@@elitesyndicatesHe suffered from PTSD. I don't mean that I feel pitty for him. Hell no. What the Film is trying the say is that you will pay for your crimes one way or another. The writing on the wall triggered his flashbacks and he relived the crimes he did again and again. In the end he wants to pay for his crime by trying burning himself. PTSD don't work only for victims but also for some of the offenders if they have a "soul" at least. Short: what goes around comes around or Karma will get you
Anyone who feels sympathy for him should remember how much he abused the family, ending with setting their house on fire. When he saw the car on fire, he looked elated.
I think him living on to remember what he did is more fitting of a punishment, his death would only be better for him so let him live it's more punishing
I remember the first story as one of the most shocking of all Omeleto films. What shook me the most were the words “Based on a true story” near the end of it. As much as I feel sorry for the guy in this sequel, part of me is assuaged by the karmic elements at play here - the price one pays for past sins. But overall it’s so sad, society is so screwed up. 😟
"STILL EVIL" it says it all right on the front of the house. He may be tormented by the memories, but it's obvious that he hasn't changed, not a very sympathetic character.
True repentance is a Gift from God...And no sin in true repentance other than the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, that God can't forgive, not only that but save,heal,and deliver to complete restoration..SOZO.......
@@trublu2556 So exceptionally true; yet, in this harsh, self-righteous, & unforgiving world society, these precious Words of The LORD are abominable & hateful to these kinds of people. But, HIS Words & Will will always triumph. Thank you for your wonderful words of encouragement!
@@dariuslester8756 I believe the true church has been asleep far too long we are the true woke people..You and I , are not alone..Please remember at every opportunity,bring (Him) to the forefront of conversation..Its there only chance/Hope to hear..Just like we did here.. Time is short..The beast system is being set up in real time..👑🔥💙
@Betzabel Torrealba, I remember seeing that first one as well. I didn't remember that was based on a true story. I was just trying to remember the situation surrounding the car fire. Very tragic indeed...it's always sad when the bully gets bullied, and yet the bully never has compassion for who he bullies. Selective amnesia much...🙄
Honestly the people in the neighbourhood disgust me the most. When the abuse was happening, they turned a blind eye. They didn't act when it would have really mattered. When they did, they acted just as bad, if not worse than the teenagers. Most of them are fully grown adults who should have a more mature moral compass, yet they still tormented and abused the man AND his family just like the teens did to the mother and daughter, even driving him to attempt the same fate. Really says a lot about about our society.
This is why the phrase "Virtue Signaling" exists. The protesters throwing rocks at the house act like they would have done things so differently had they taken his place, but the reality is, they're just going along with whatever the mob deems popular just the same.
The biggest problem is where you have these areas with bad families! You have to blame the parents of such children! And the saddest thing is 3 people died that day!
As I recall? In reality the suicide deaths of this mother and daughter went without any remorse from those who persecuted her. I suppose this is an idealized reimagining of this tragedy. The deaths of other abused victims throughout history have never had such a reckoning either. For example, I am thinking of Junko Furuta and Sylvia Marie Likens and how their horrific deaths/murders went pretty much unpunished. There were too many perpetrators to even prosecute or find, and those who were the ring leaders received minimal sentences.
Omg 😳 I wish I hadn’t looked up the case of Junko Furuta. That made me feel physically sick! That poor poor girl. I can’t imagine anyone going through the absolute hell that she did. And somehow surviving that torture for 44 days 😱 And the sentences 4 of those pieces of scum got were some of the most pathetic ever. How did they not get life in prison with the most brutal men in the prison as cellmates? And the 96 odd men that haven’t ever been even charged... I hope there is a hell where their sins are played out on them 10 fold for all those evil, vicious, sickening things they did to her. What they did is not human! And the Yakuza should be burned to the ground too!
Keep in mind ten years have passed since they died. Michael is shown looking out the window as the car burns, seemingly in shock and regret. He's probably had plenty of time for the guilt to catch up to him.
Yup, theres been no updates on the actual bully so we don't know if he ever felt any actual remorse for the woman he pushed to suicide. Judging by the smug look he had on his face as a teenager I'm going to take a guess and say no, hes never regretted it. But who knows, maybe if he becomes a dad some day he might feel differently.
Hugely impactful and overall poignant. Also, a stern lesson reminding us to leave people alone altogether in the cases we are not equipped to show them compassion, as such with his interaction with the girl and her mom. What you do ultimately finds its way back to you.
this is the situation where you wonder who to blame? the teenager in the past who didnt knew abt his consequences, the environment in which he grew , the mom , or the police officer who refused to acknowledge the suffering of the disabled girl and her mother. it is said that a bad tree will produce bad seeds. so who is the tree and whats the ultimate solution?
@stuthi jha There was a systemic failure across the Leicestershire Police and Leicestershire Housing and Social Services, however there's no excusing the sub humans who tormented the family, nor is there any excusing their parents and the community who allowed this to happen.
It does not matter, he was responsible for her death. We all have a reason for being the way we are, but we alone must face the consequences for our actions and choices. He did something that there was no excuse for. People who do such things should be executed after they commit that kind of evil crimes. The present politician's prove that evil does not change, it only grows and creates more evil.
Maybe, when you think about it Everyone involved in this tragedy should be held accountable..Michael, His Parents, His friends who I influenced him the neigh orhood Who walked around with blinders on and REFUSED to get involved and the POLICE..I truly believe there were many involved and not Punished for their actions and behaviors..
My thoughts exactly. Don’t come for him… COME FOR EVERYBODY. Because once other men, women, business owners, school leaders, ect shed light on this matter, and shamed the boys publicly for their misbehavior, and SUPPORTED the mom and daughter…. Well, let’s say this wldn’t have gotten so far. Children are immature. WHERE WERE THE ADULTS OF THE VILLAGE? 😕
I’ve seen the prequel. Man, what a tragic story. Sad, tragic death of a disabled daughter and her mother. Michael committed horrible acts in his early life. He also had a bad upbringing, too. His mother’s a brat, he hung out with the wrong group of kids. The past haunted him 10 years later. He uses boxing as his way out to relieve the stress, let alone escape his past. Throughout this short film, certain events come back to haunt him (ex: the handsmothering, the fire, Michael’s childhood of crime and mischief, you name it). By the end of it, he tried committing suicide because he can’t take the pain anymore. I had a feeling his mother is responsible; so was everyone else involved as the perpetrators. Also, the police force should have been more active and responsible, not be dicks and then the chief saying “now f$**# off”. Hope this guy, Michael, has learned his important lesson, to not bully people and overdo it. Because crazy consequences can happen. Hope he’s learned right from wrong now. Poor guy. And finally, I want to end with this: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. We all make mistakes. We all should try to redeem ourselves as best as possible. Good luck to our society.
He wasn’t really trying to commit suicide. It was a pathetic sympathy play. He knew that he would be saved because he has turned himself into a victim of bullying. Thee irony.
@@lisajanebrooklynI don't think you understand trauma. That whole street is to blame and the police. Like the priest said in the first part about vanity and only caring about yourself. One cop tried to help. No one had to die.
Young kid is raised by an "angry mob" and bullied his entire life and does the same to someone else. Anyone see a pattern here? This episode reminds me a bit of Poe's story The Tell-Tale Heart.
Your comment made me think of it from a different angle. The bullied kid in the bad crowd is powerless to attack his actual bullies but is given free rein and their support (and acceptance) to bully someone else. That's why he ended up being the worst one to the mother and her daughter because of all his anger.
Okay, I watched the short that depicted that murder-suicide after her special needs daughter was relentlessly bullied by teens, I detest any sort of bullying and I do like how this ties in,
thats how the mother and daughter felt...they couldnt breathe...they couldnt escape. you didnt light the match but you might as well have....you get what you give. STOP THE BULLYING
I hope there’s a third part. I feel that the boys who did this won’t truly be punished until they have real remorse. This one is now just starting his life sentence. 😔
@@RHKhan86 yes, true. But, they too will go through guilt of abusing someone. Be it from others or themselves. The circle completes for all of them. But that's just my opinion.
The 1st of this continuation was powerful as was this the 2nd. That feeling of something you can't take back., I was reminded of the things in my past that I am am ashamed of, I can't imagine what it must be like to be so deeply & genuinely regretful of having done something so extreme. To me it did not seem entirely clear how sorry her really was or how much the desperation was to just escape the current unbearable situation. I don't know that we could ever know for someone else. There are some things I do not know how it would ever be possible to forgive myself for.
I seen the first part of the story it was very tragic. So it just gave me flash backs and I connected the story together. It’s just so crazy to see how messed up people are on different levels. Sometimes it’s harder to notice when it’s right in front of you.
Bullying doesn't just effect the victim. It also effects the bully as well. Not only does it leave lasting effects, but harsh ones too. Harsh ones that don't really go away. The guy was having karma thrown his way, just as he was trying to change, forget the past, and all of the memories haunting him for a whole 10 years. I would say he didn't deserve the punishment of karma now, he only needed it when the time was right.
I understand having a terrible childhood, but I think justice getting served to the girl is right. He deserves to get punished for what he did. Just cause he was abused doesn’t suddenly excuse his actions. He didn’t deserve to be abused, and it wasn’t his fault, but what he did to that girl was his fault, and he deserves to be punished for it. He made that choice to bully her, his abusers didn’t force him to bully her, it was his choice alone. At least that’s my take away.
I was bawling after watching part 1 of this story. Only to find out that this was based on a true story about the Pilkington family in the UK. Pure insanity. And worse children were doing these things to them. Crazy world we live in.
Absolutely amazing. I lost track of time. 20min, 60min, 90min. I'm not sure how much time passed. Hell of a job. From top to bottom, this is exceptional.
Reading the comments of this powerful short I feel I have missed a couple of important things. Firstly, I came to this film not knowing there was a previous film. I would have loved to have seen the first before watching this. Secondly based on the comments it seems this is based on a true story, again, something I wasn't aware of. Iniquity is a fantastic Omeleto short dealing with a troubling subject, Great acting, great production and an overall really good film.
The first part told the truth to a tea to be fair. This story is far from the truth. He actually felt no remorse at all. And only 3 months after the event went and terrorised an old lady on the same street every night by playing really loud music and throwing eggs til 3am. to the point where her health deteriorated because of sleep deprivation and her blood levels rised to the point of being hospitalised. He is still remains part of the same gang he was in when he was a youth and was recently arrested for battery
This is a classic explanation that the evil that man does, follows him. There's all kinds of punishment that comes with that. Some could be ghosts or demons tormenting the person while others can be anxiety, depression, stress, nightmares, paranoia and suicidal thoughts which all seems to be the case here. You WILL reap what you sew.
And the girl he bullied? The girl who went through all of that for no reason? She did not sow, she did not deserve the pain he took her through. What’s the point of being good if you’re punished either way? (Coming from a victim of bullying now suffering from depression and anxiety. I would of course never do that to someone either way)
I had no idea they made a sequel. I came across this by chance... The prequel to this video was extremely infuriating and upsetting to watch. Every single actor was terrific... The victim-mom, bully-mom, and the cop were all completely realistic, the girl who played the disabled victim was excellent, but the best performance of all was definitely the primary bully. He was that terrorist who most of us recognize from our youth. To give a villain performance that is indistinguishable from the real thing is a true work of art. I was so angry at him I felt like I wanted to torture him... When a work of fiction makes you feel so frustrated, angry, sad and sympathetic to the point where you forget it isn't real, you have found some truly talented actors.
I tried to feel some sort of sympathy for him, knowing his own damaged childhood and how irresponsible his mother was and probably all the older people in his childhood most likely had acted even more detestable. But the thing is he never once apologized or acted in anyway actually sorry about what had happened in the first short. All the way up until the ending when the guilt and fear of everyone else judging him hit him hardest and he made an attempt at doing away with himself. But that move only further proves how cowardly he was all the way until the end, unable to accept that his actions along with several others, had a horrible outcome. The past will always come to haunt you....well done for the sequel short!!!! Nearly as powerful as the first.
Had to go and watch the prequel and all I can say is that every community needs a scapegoat. They were all apart of it, not just him, all the neighbors that never spoke up in the moment, the police, his family, silent bystanders and now because of their collective guilt, they look for where to place absolute anger and blame, so that they, themselves are faultless. Where was this kind of angry outburst when it was actually needed, where was the community for this mum and daughter? Hindsight is such a useless super power...we can't change the past...
I have been waiting for this film!!! So glad you got the funding for your film. 🥰 Well Done!!! When the scene ended, the silence at the end, was very powerful. Not sure if it was intended, the silence was 10 seconds long. I wonder if the group of vigils realize when they are tormenting Michael for the bullying he did 10yrs ago, which led to Angela committing suicide with her daughter. That they are doing so without thinking about the consequence? If their actions lead to Michael killing himself, are they any better than he was? I wish they showed the others who bullied even though Michael was the main instigator. Do you think Michael's girlfriend would still stay with him when she learns what happened 10yrs ago? I think she would because he has remorse for his actions and is not the same person anymore.
Brilliantly done in 23min. Very moving. Made me cry. I hope to see more like this. More based on true events.. good and bad. Funny & Sad. I'd love to writ a film.
@Marcus Turdwell Dead Man's Shoes? A tremendous film and an outstanding performance from Paddy Considine - pretty early on in his career too. I don't think that it gets the recognition it deserves - achieving a poor Rotten Tomatoes score, (not surprising TBH - I've got no faith in any Rotten Tomatoes scores). Of course it won't be everyone's cup of tea, but it's certainly not a bad film. Do you rate it?
I thought I recognized the girl and her Mum ..it was another short film on here, that told there life. If I can remember the name I will write it on here. They tried to get justice..no one helped them. So good to know justice was served.
I don't know how to feel about this. How he feels now is how his victims felt ,but watching this punishment play out is painful to watch. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
He getting exactly what he deserves, now he gets to feel and experience what that mother and daughter did. No sympathy for him, only wish everyone that was involved would catch the same sh!t as him
I appreciate the concept, but overall the film feels like wish fulfillment. A not insignificant number of predators go on to live remorseless lives free of consequence while their victims are left to deal with trauma (if they survive that is). That our abuse will be avenged is a fantasy. I learned this lesson the hard way, though I admit it’s still fun to fantasize about karma forcing cruel people to reckon with their pasts.
A young boy pressed into criminal behavior by his older brother and friends takes their lessons to the extreme and indulges to the point that a mother and daughter go up in flames, and that event then wakes him up to the wrongness of what he'd been taught to do. This is a powerful story. The fact that his older brother, and at least one friend, continue to behave like deranged bully-boys while he struggles with his demons is a truthful backdrop to what many people who can't escape the environment that turned them bad, but they desperately want out and yet don't know how. Good job!
I love this. Such attention to detail, the emotions, the karma at play and love how it all connects so very well with the the other short! The music and everything else goes so well together for me! You inspire me to get off my ass and work on my own shorts, thank you omeleto.
Never fool yourself into thinking, you got away with an evil deed, Karma always finds you, maybe not today or tomorrow, but guarantee She's on her way, with the wrath of Hell behind her
I didn't know their was a part 2 of this story, this story felt very real great acting even thou its not the nicest of stories, I got a lump in my throat watching this 💔
I believe everyone has a conscious and all the bad things, past behavior, mistakes, uttered words now and then come back knocking at the door of your conscious and haunt you. Now some entertain the knock, numb the knock, ignore the knock, acknowledge the knock, and as forgiveness.. It's all up to us how we deal with it.. This I guess is one of those days when the past comes knocking and reminds you of your past.. It happens to the best of us.
Was all that really happening or was it all in his head? Why didn't his wife seem to know what was going on? Some of this was confusing. But one thing I know for sure, bullies always pay. When I was 10, a classmate bullied me relentlessly. She died of a drug overdose less than 10 years later. Not happy about that, but not surprised either. Some people are just plain evil.
I thought that there was something familiar about the events depicted in this short. Then I read the comments and saw it was a sequel to another short I had seen awhile back. Whew - both are amazingly well done short film dramas, well-written, shot and acted.
I love that there was a continuation of this story. I remember hating this guy so much in the first film and this delve a little bit into his back story. It seems like he was already troubled from a very young age and headed down the wrong path which escalated when he became a teenager. Now as an adult, he is finally feeling remorse for the part that he played in the mother/daughter deaths. Powerful final scene as well.
I don't buy into the 'abused turns abuser' narrative. He knew what was right and what was wrong. It is fitting his conscience plagues him. X
@Aunty Linda I totally agree! It is NEVER in my eyes going to be okay, justified, or explainable when the abused turns abuser! If you know what it feels like to be a victim, why on earth would it EVER be okay for you to become the perpetrator?? If you were in that position and felt helpless, then be an ADVOCATE. IF you become an abuser, you're just repeating that cycle of abuse. Hurt people should not hurt other people.😶
@@detrajackson5992 it’s 90% of the WHY of an abuser so you both best just RADICALLY ACCEPT FACTS!!!
Wtf so you want to deny reality? What you think quakes this crap….? Let me guess…..evil? The devil?
Unbelievable you both just want to deny reality ….IT IS INTERGENERATIONAL
Sooooo glad there are people with BRAINS and basic abilities to grasp how things work and the open enough mind to see it.
You’re the EXACT kind of people and mob mentality that keep this abuse cycle going.
Ignorance is ignorance……🤮
Whats the name of Part 1?
@@Stumpybear7640 Don't judge until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
It's curious how he's the only one living with regret while the rest of the family/neighborhood acts like nothing ever happened.
Karma will get everyone.
@@RHKhan86
Look up the word "karma.' It does not mean justice will be applied fairly.
It seems they all are but the others are def in denial. And trying to cover it up like a murder.
the whole neighborhood was harassing that family
@Marcus Turdwell yeah it's bizarre the way bullies dont see their part in an interlocking system, a dynamic between multiple actors that comprise the bullying behaviors- that system being unable to even exist without those various parts (people). All it takes is one person to be liiiiike WTF, cut it out douchebags! to stop the entire dynamic long term.
Those "it was all banter and fun" bullies will never admit that they were cowards.
No sympathy for him. For 10 years they were bullying them. He didn't regret he got scared because he was getting bullied by the people . His friends should also pay the consequences.
You missed the entire point of the video.
@@dantruth7406What is the point?
@@elitesyndicatesHe suffered from PTSD. I don't mean that I feel pitty for him. Hell no. What the Film is trying the say is that you will pay for your crimes one way or another. The writing on the wall triggered his flashbacks and he relived the crimes he did again and again. In the end he wants to pay for his crime by trying burning himself.
PTSD don't work only for victims but also for some of the offenders if they have a "soul" at least.
Short: what goes around comes around or Karma will get you
Anyone who feels sympathy for him should remember how much he abused the family, ending with setting their house on fire.
When he saw the car on fire, he looked elated.
@@jakeaguas well he pushed the mother and the daughter to the point of killing themselves…
@jakeaguas why on earth would you feel bad for someone that could do what he did to a poor woman and her disabled daughter?
I wish that lighter would have worked for him in the end!
I think him living on to remember what he did is more fitting of a punishment, his death would only be better for him so let him live it's more punishing
And doesn't change the fact that he already took away the life of innocent people
Before you start feeling sorry for him. Watch the first film and watch how he treated the disabled girl and her mother, and drove them to suicide.
Accidently run over a dog years ago, stings my heart until now.
A very good reminder to be nice to others. Thanks mate.
I remember the first story as one of the most shocking of all Omeleto films. What shook me the most were the words “Based on a true story” near the end of it. As much as I feel sorry for the guy in this sequel, part of me is assuaged by the karmic elements at play here - the price one pays for past sins. But overall it’s so sad, society is so screwed up. 😟
Hey can you please attach the link for the first film?
@@life-on1di search for "this is vanity"
@@Julia_Coelho_Music thanks!
@@life-on1di you're welcome!
These two short movies are so powerful, and both so telling of society from different perspectives...
@@aaronwright8406 okay 👍
"STILL EVIL" it says it all right on the front of the house. He may be tormented by the memories, but it's obvious that he hasn't changed, not a very sympathetic character.
Goddamn. I did not expect this to be a sequel to the last short film. This was amazingly done.
I know the first short, and that was based in a real history. The past always finds you.
True repentance is a Gift from God...And no sin in true repentance other than the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, that God can't forgive, not only that but save,heal,and deliver to complete restoration..SOZO.......
@@trublu2556 So exceptionally true; yet, in this harsh, self-righteous, & unforgiving world society, these precious Words of The LORD are abominable & hateful to these kinds of people. But, HIS Words & Will will always triumph. Thank you for your wonderful words of encouragement!
@@dariuslester8756 I believe the true church has been asleep far too long we are the true woke people..You and I , are not alone..Please remember at every opportunity,bring (Him) to the forefront of conversation..Its there only chance/Hope to hear..Just like we did here..
Time is short..The beast system is being set up in real time..👑🔥💙
@Betzabel Torrealba, I remember seeing that first one as well. I didn't remember that was based on a true story. I was just trying to remember the situation surrounding the car fire. Very tragic indeed...it's always sad when the bully gets bullied, and yet the bully never has compassion for who he bullies. Selective amnesia much...🙄
Then please give the link!
Honestly the people in the neighbourhood disgust me the most. When the abuse was happening, they turned a blind eye. They didn't act when it would have really mattered.
When they did, they acted just as bad, if not worse than the teenagers. Most of them are fully grown adults who should have a more mature moral compass, yet they still tormented and abused the man AND his family just like the teens did to the mother and daughter, even driving him to attempt the same fate.
Really says a lot about about our society.
This is why the phrase "Virtue Signaling" exists. The protesters throwing rocks at the house act like they would have done things so differently had they taken his place, but the reality is, they're just going along with whatever the mob deems popular just the same.
The neighbourhood did do something in reality.
Yah some people only “take action” against something wrong when it make look good or feel powerful, it sucks.
The biggest problem is where you have these areas with bad families! You have to blame the parents of such children! And the saddest thing is 3 people died that day!
Oh my God. One of the best short films. The sequel haunted me. This story will always make me cry.
Where is the sequel?
@@dinos9607 check this is vanity omeleto
As I recall? In reality the suicide deaths of this mother and daughter went without any remorse from those who persecuted her. I suppose this is an idealized reimagining of this tragedy. The deaths of other abused victims throughout history have never had such a reckoning either. For example, I am thinking of Junko Furuta and Sylvia Marie Likens and how their horrific deaths/murders went pretty much unpunished. There were too many perpetrators to even prosecute or find, and those who were the ring leaders received minimal sentences.
Omg 😳 I wish I hadn’t looked up the case of Junko Furuta. That made me feel physically sick! That poor poor girl. I can’t imagine anyone going through the absolute hell that she did. And somehow surviving that torture for 44 days 😱 And the sentences 4 of those pieces of scum got were some of the most pathetic ever. How did they not get life in prison with the most brutal men in the prison as cellmates? And the 96 odd men that haven’t ever been even charged... I hope there is a hell where their sins are played out on them 10 fold for all those evil, vicious, sickening things they did to her. What they did is not human! And the Yakuza should be burned to the ground too!
Keep in mind ten years have passed since they died. Michael is shown looking out the window as the car burns, seemingly in shock and regret. He's probably had plenty of time for the guilt to catch up to him.
Exactly.
Truth is some species are blind to games they being played. we use to asume they capable to develope consiusness. Looks like some are not.
Yup, theres been no updates on the actual bully so we don't know if he ever felt any actual remorse for the woman he pushed to suicide. Judging by the smug look he had on his face as a teenager I'm going to take a guess and say no, hes never regretted it. But who knows, maybe if he becomes a dad some day he might feel differently.
It’s awful I know but there are days even now where I wish my school bullies are going through this torment knowing what happened to me.
I'm glad that story has a sequel.
Hugely impactful and overall poignant. Also, a stern lesson reminding us to leave people alone altogether in the cases we are not equipped to show them compassion, as such with his interaction with the girl and her mom.
What you do ultimately finds its way back to you.
Well - I know I don’t empathize with what he is grappling with. For every action there is a consequence. Serves him right.
You’re just as evil.
@@rubydanielledan-abia1651 lol ok…
@@rubydanielledan-abia1651 how us that evil?
true but on the other hand it's just as exasperating that only he is enduring his karma and not the other perps
@@RamKrishna-hf6dd because he was the ring leader
this is the situation where you wonder who to blame? the teenager in the past who didnt knew abt his consequences, the environment in which he grew , the mom , or the police officer who refused to acknowledge the suffering of the disabled girl and her mother. it is said that a bad tree will produce bad seeds. so who is the tree and whats the ultimate solution?
Education
This is well said.
@stuthi jha
There was a systemic failure across the Leicestershire Police and Leicestershire Housing and Social Services, however there's no excusing the sub humans who tormented the family, nor is there any excusing their parents and the community who allowed this to happen.
It does not matter, he was responsible for her death. We all have a reason for being the way we are, but we alone must face the consequences for our actions and choices. He did something that there was no excuse for. People who do such things should be executed after they commit that kind of evil crimes. The present politician's prove that evil does not change, it only grows and creates more evil.
They were all to blame. They all played a part, imo.
Maybe, when you think about it Everyone involved in this tragedy should be held accountable..Michael, His Parents, His friends who I influenced him the neigh orhood Who walked around with blinders on and REFUSED to get involved and the POLICE..I truly believe there were many involved and not Punished for their actions and behaviors..
My thoughts exactly. Don’t come for him… COME FOR EVERYBODY. Because once other men, women, business owners, school leaders, ect shed light on this matter, and shamed the boys publicly for their misbehavior, and SUPPORTED the mom and daughter…. Well, let’s say this wldn’t have gotten so far. Children are immature. WHERE WERE THE ADULTS OF THE VILLAGE? 😕
That blood on their hands will never wash off.
I’ve seen the prequel. Man, what a tragic story. Sad, tragic death of a disabled daughter and her mother.
Michael committed horrible acts in his early life. He also had a bad upbringing, too. His mother’s a brat, he hung out with the wrong group of kids. The past haunted him 10 years later. He uses boxing as his way out to relieve the stress, let alone escape his past.
Throughout this short film, certain events come back to haunt him (ex: the handsmothering, the fire, Michael’s childhood of crime and mischief, you name it).
By the end of it, he tried committing suicide because he can’t take the pain anymore. I had a feeling his mother is responsible; so was everyone else involved as the perpetrators.
Also, the police force should have been more active and responsible, not be dicks and then the chief saying “now f$**# off”.
Hope this guy, Michael, has learned his important lesson, to not bully people and overdo it. Because crazy consequences can happen.
Hope he’s learned right from wrong now. Poor guy.
And finally, I want to end with this: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. We all make mistakes. We all should try to redeem ourselves as best as possible. Good luck to our society.
thx for the comment chubby
He wasn’t really trying to commit suicide. It was a pathetic sympathy play. He knew that he would be saved because he has turned himself into a victim of bullying. Thee irony.
* I'm talking about the real bullies, not the actor in the movie of course.
@@lisajanebrooklynI don't think you understand trauma. That whole street is to blame and the police. Like the priest said in the first part about vanity and only caring about yourself. One cop tried to help. No one had to die.
@@lisajanebrooklyn yes you are correct. Michael is playing the victim game strong.
The true story was a tragedy,that poor girl and her mom haunted him.
Good and so it should
Young kid is raised by an "angry mob" and bullied his entire life and does the same to someone else. Anyone see a pattern here? This episode reminds me a bit of Poe's story The Tell-Tale Heart.
Your comment made me think of it from a different angle. The bullied kid in the bad crowd is powerless to attack his actual bullies but is given free rein and their support (and acceptance) to bully someone else. That's why he ended up being the worst one to the mother and her daughter because of all his anger.
The few times I have seen your posts, I have been impressed. Well done, sir. Annd thank you. The world needs people like you.
This is such a powerful film. It is so dark and mentally frustrating.
As it should be
Okay, I watched the short that depicted that murder-suicide after her special needs daughter was relentlessly bullied by teens, I detest any sort of bullying and I do like how this ties in,
thats how the mother and daughter felt...they couldnt breathe...they couldnt escape. you didnt light the match but you might as well have....you get what you give. STOP THE BULLYING
I hope there’s a third part. I feel that the boys who did this won’t truly be punished until they have real remorse. This one is now just starting his life sentence. 😔
The circle of abuse is complete.
Not really. Still abusers are left.
@@RHKhan86 yes, true. But, they too will go through guilt of abusing someone. Be it from others or themselves. The circle completes for all of them. But that's just my opinion.
It’s still not okay an eye for an eye leaves everyone blind
@@rubydanielledan-abia1651 agreed
The 1st of this continuation was powerful as was this the 2nd. That feeling of something you can't take back., I was reminded of the things in my past that I am am ashamed of, I can't imagine what it must be like to be so deeply & genuinely regretful of having done something so extreme.
To me it did not seem entirely clear how sorry her really was or how much the desperation was to just escape the current unbearable situation.
I don't know that we could ever know for someone else.
There are some things I do not know how it would ever be possible to forgive myself for.
I seen the first part of the story it was very tragic. So it just gave me flash backs and I connected the story together. It’s just so crazy to see how messed up people are on different levels. Sometimes it’s harder to notice when it’s right in front of you.
What goes around comes around.
You can run away, but you can never run away from yourself.
Bullying doesn't just effect the victim. It also effects the bully as well. Not only does it leave lasting effects, but harsh ones too. Harsh ones that don't really go away. The guy was having karma thrown his way, just as he was trying to change, forget the past, and all of the memories haunting him for a whole 10 years. I would say he didn't deserve the punishment of karma now, he only needed it when the time was right.
Forgiveness is a powerful thing.
This was exceptional acting. Wow.
People like him have pasts that come back to haunt him. Not only people that have suffered traumatic events.
I understand having a terrible childhood, but I think justice getting served to the girl is right. He deserves to get punished for what he did. Just cause he was abused doesn’t suddenly excuse his actions. He didn’t deserve to be abused, and it wasn’t his fault, but what he did to that girl was his fault, and he deserves to be punished for it. He made that choice to bully her, his abusers didn’t force him to bully her, it was his choice alone. At least that’s my take away.
Hope it starts people thinking when they are unfair to others. It will always come back to haunt you.
It's called KARMA
Problem is, they wouldn't be sorry for what they did, just sorry they got caught.
I was bawling after watching part 1 of this story. Only to find out that this was based on a true story about the Pilkington family in the UK. Pure insanity. And worse children were doing these things to them. Crazy world we live in.
Absolutely amazing. I lost track of time. 20min, 60min, 90min. I'm not sure how much time passed. Hell of a job. From top to bottom, this is exceptional.
If anyone else didnt see part 1 its Called: This is Vanity
Reading the comments of this powerful short I feel I have missed a couple of important things. Firstly, I came to this film not knowing there was a previous film. I would have loved to have seen the first before watching this.
Secondly based on the comments it seems this is based on a true story, again, something I wasn't aware of.
Iniquity is a fantastic Omeleto short dealing with a troubling subject, Great acting, great production and an overall really good film.
Yeah, would love to see the first part
The first part told the truth to a tea to be fair. This story is far from the truth. He actually felt no remorse at all. And only 3 months after the event went and terrorised an old lady on the same street every night by playing really loud music and throwing eggs til 3am. to the point where her health deteriorated because of sleep deprivation and her blood levels rised to the point of being hospitalised. He is still remains part of the same gang he was in when he was a youth and was recently arrested for battery
This was a good movie with a powerful message. Some acts can never be undone. Evil must be punished.
Certain actions have the darkest of consequence...
I remember the first omeleto video, I'm glad they added a new part.👍🏼
I feel no remorse for the guy. This is karma for you
Wow his acting is really good, it makes me want to forgive him for what he did
Well he’s truly remorseful.
Nah man
I believe He isn't the same person, it's different actor
People like him don't deserve forgiveness
This is a classic explanation that the evil that man does, follows him. There's all kinds of punishment that comes with that. Some could be ghosts or demons tormenting the person while others can be anxiety, depression, stress, nightmares, paranoia and suicidal thoughts which all seems to be the case here.
You WILL reap what you sew.
*sow
@@lovingmayberry307 Thank you
That doesnt really happen always
Maybe Maybe Not....just my thoughts
And the girl he bullied? The girl who went through all of that for no reason? She did not sow, she did not deserve the pain he took her through. What’s the point of being good if you’re punished either way?
(Coming from a victim of bullying now suffering from depression and anxiety. I would of course never do that to someone either way)
I had no idea they made a sequel. I came across this by chance...
The prequel to this video was extremely infuriating and upsetting to watch. Every single actor was terrific... The victim-mom, bully-mom, and the cop were all completely realistic, the girl who played the disabled victim was excellent, but the best performance of all was definitely the primary bully. He was that terrorist who most of us recognize from our youth. To give a villain performance that is indistinguishable from the real thing is a true work of art. I was so angry at him I felt like I wanted to torture him... When a work of fiction makes you feel so frustrated, angry, sad and sympathetic to the point where you forget it isn't real, you have found some truly talented actors.
I feel a strong emotional connection to this story.
I tried to feel some sort of sympathy for him, knowing his own damaged childhood and how irresponsible his mother was and probably all the older people in his childhood most likely had acted even more detestable. But the thing is he never once apologized or acted in anyway actually sorry about what had happened in the first short. All the way up until the ending when the guilt and fear of everyone else judging him hit him hardest and he made an attempt at doing away with himself. But that move only further proves how cowardly he was all the way until the end, unable to accept that his actions along with several others, had a horrible outcome. The past will always come to haunt you....well done for the sequel short!!!! Nearly as powerful as the first.
There is really is no happy ending for none just devastating for everyone 😐
Had to go and watch the prequel and all I can say is that every community needs a scapegoat. They were all apart of it, not just him, all the neighbors that never spoke up in the moment, the police, his family, silent bystanders and now because of their collective guilt, they look for where to place absolute anger and blame, so that they, themselves are faultless. Where was this kind of angry outburst when it was actually needed, where was the community for this mum and daughter? Hindsight is such a useless super power...we can't change the past...
that is why at the end, they are doing what they failed to do to help Angela and Tyler.
I have been waiting for this film!!! So glad you got the funding for your film. 🥰
Well Done!!! When the scene ended, the silence at the end, was very powerful. Not sure if it was intended, the silence was 10 seconds long.
I wonder if the group of vigils realize when they are tormenting Michael for the bullying he did 10yrs ago, which led to Angela committing suicide with her daughter. That they are doing so without thinking about the consequence? If their actions lead to Michael killing himself, are they any better than he was? I wish they showed the others who bullied even though Michael was the main instigator.
Do you think Michael's girlfriend would still stay with him when she learns what happened 10yrs ago? I think she would because he has remorse for his actions and is not the same person anymore.
Brilliantly done in 23min. Very moving. Made me cry. I hope to see more like this. More based on true events.. good and bad. Funny & Sad. I'd love to writ a film.
"Regardless of our crimes, true regret is a bottomless pit, no matter the justice"
That was heavy.
Beyond that I'm not sure of what to say - had a feeling of Dead Man's Shoes, even though the story was very different.
@Marcus Turdwell Dead Man's Shoes?
A tremendous film and an outstanding performance from Paddy Considine - pretty early on in his career too.
I don't think that it gets the recognition it deserves - achieving a poor Rotten Tomatoes score, (not surprising TBH - I've got no faith in any Rotten Tomatoes scores).
Of course it won't be everyone's cup of tea, but it's certainly not a bad film.
Do you rate it?
I got the same kind of vibe, except the flashbacks felt more personal here because of his involvement.
Ooh, that was intense!
The short movie was so good they made a sequel
I thought I recognized the girl and her Mum ..it was another short film on here, that told there life. If I can remember the name I will write it on here. They tried to get justice..no one helped them. So good to know justice was served.
He didn't suffer the mother daughter sure did
I don't know how to feel about this. How he feels now is how his victims felt ,but watching this punishment play out is painful to watch. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
He getting exactly what he deserves, now he gets to feel and experience what that mother and daughter did. No sympathy for him, only wish everyone that was involved would catch the same sh!t as him
An eye for an eye.
Best to see the first film to help put this in context. A lot of guilt on that street... still well alive today. (This Is Vanity).
I appreciate the concept, but overall the film feels like wish fulfillment. A not insignificant number of predators go on to live remorseless lives free of consequence while their victims are left to deal with trauma (if they survive that is). That our abuse will be avenged is a fantasy. I learned this lesson the hard way, though I admit it’s still fun to fantasize about karma forcing cruel people to reckon with their pasts.
I mean it does happen. Maybe not often but some folks do change and go through this .. yeah it would be great if it happened more..
I do believe karma..but it'll not happen in this life..
A young boy pressed into criminal behavior by his older brother and friends takes their lessons to the extreme and indulges to the point that a mother and daughter go up in flames, and that event then wakes him up to the wrongness of what he'd been taught to do. This is a powerful story. The fact that his older brother, and at least one friend, continue to behave like deranged bully-boys while he struggles with his demons is a truthful backdrop to what many people who can't escape the environment that turned them bad, but they desperately want out and yet don't know how. Good job!
This short film is one of the most powerful films I’ve ever watched in my life
Consequences, consequences, consequences........For every action there is a reaction.
This is a great film but I do think he got off pretty easy after what he did.
It is a pity this film is not subtitled. The dialect is pretty difficult to understand.
No sympathy for that punk, though the neighbors are just as worst since where was this mob when the daughter and mother needed them.
OMG this is a continuation of that?! One of the legendary Omeleto films. Wow. This is amazing.
I find the array of the types of responses that have been left on these short films extremely telling about the human condition.
I love this. Such attention to detail, the emotions, the karma at play and love how it all connects so very well with the the other short! The music and everything else goes so well together for me! You inspire me to get off my ass and work on my own shorts, thank you omeleto.
It doesn't matter how far or how fast you run. The past always catches up with you. Because some people never forget a wrong.
Even though I do feel empathy for his regrets I don’t feel any sympathy
It's a horrible thing to be cruel.
ok this is the sequel. just as stunningly brilliant as the first. what was the name of the first one again ? ha ja this is vanity.
The fact that some people do such acts is more than aggravating.
Never fool yourself into thinking, you got away with an evil deed, Karma always finds you, maybe not today or tomorrow, but guarantee She's on her way, with the wrath of Hell behind her
What makes you so such
People get away with bad deeds all of the time.
@@ShockResistor No one gets away with nothing
@@ShockResistor not all the time
Do not judge a man for what he has done, judge him for what he does next. For that will define who he truly is.
Wow, what an atmosphere. You are great, creators!
Omg I saw the first film last time and here we go💔 to see behind it
Nice sequel to This Is Vanity.
I dont feel any empathy or sorry for him he deserve this and he choose his own karma
So he was one of the tormentors of the disabled daughter and her mother from the previous film. It’s karma for him.
I didn't know their was a part 2 of this story, this story felt very real great acting even thou its not the nicest of stories, I got a lump in my throat watching this 💔
sometimes in the prison of guilt there is no escape.
he lacks accountability
I believe everyone has a conscious and all the bad things, past behavior, mistakes, uttered words now and then come back knocking at the door of your conscious and haunt you. Now some entertain the knock, numb the knock, ignore the knock, acknowledge the knock, and as forgiveness.. It's all up to us how we deal with it.. This I guess is one of those days when the past comes knocking and reminds you of your past.. It happens to the best of us.
Sadly his alive! In perfect world he was killed after his actions with the girl and the mother
Was all that really happening or was it all in his head? Why didn't his wife seem to know what was going on? Some of this was confusing. But one thing I know for sure, bullies always pay. When I was 10, a classmate bullied me relentlessly. She died of a drug overdose less than 10 years later. Not happy about that, but not surprised either. Some people are just plain evil.
He is still evil. Nothing changed. All he cared is about himself. No remorse
This is what should happen to all bullies
There’s a first part to this ! Wow the mom can’t take it anymore and she takes both their lives. Soo sad.
Amazing work!😊
How does he even have a woman who loves him??
That is how a lot of women are. See how many women adored ted bundy.
@@essenceofnothingness depressing
I thought that there was something familiar about the events depicted in this short. Then I read the comments and saw it was a sequel to another short I had seen awhile back. Whew - both are amazingly well done short film dramas, well-written, shot and acted.
So this is the sequel to that other video
yeah, I was thinking the same
Bullies damaged people who project onto another.