Grandmaster Ip Man was Bruces Sifu and Grandmaster Wong Chun Leung was his Sihing (Senior Student). If I remember correctly Bruce actually learned from Grandmaster Wong most of the time. You can see that much of Bruces philosofy is inspired by grandmaster Wong. He was a great fighter. As mentioned he won around 60 or even more. He was never defeated.
I am fortunate enough to own this entire video (vhs) series as my Instructor migrated to N,Y.C. from Hong Kong in 1970. his Instructor was Ng Wah Sum, a.k.a. Lightening Sum, who studied under Leung Shung, Grandmaster Ip Man's first diciple in Hong Kong.
Is it possible to train Wing Chun by yourself without a training partner ? Like only imagining a sparring partner ? Because I would like to train Wing Chun because of the beautiful moves I see in this video . greetings happy Eastern for you , Alex de Lisa ♪♥♪
gladietita Greetings, thank you, and Happy Easter to you as well :-) To be quite honest, it's not really a good idea to practice alone if you're not formally trained. The reason being it's very easy to do what feels good even though it's not correct, with no one to guide and correct you these movements will become part of you in the form of "bad habits". With Wing Chun, What you see is only a part of the story, the feelings involved in the movements are more meaningful and important. This is why one should train with a qualified instructor.
gladietita also, just because there is no dojo, you can practice with a friend. it may not be as scientific but try to find someone already into it, or another form of self-defense for whatever you have available. most of them are related in some ways, and you can always be learning more later. try to focus on aspects of boxing/wing chun, regular karate is good for a few ideas too, BJJ is also very good to know when you get taken down! Judo can help with that though as well. studying and trying all these helps to get a more complete picture of how 2 human bodies interact with each other while in a fight or movement in general, as in aikido which focus on circular momentum. be like water lol as Bruce lee said. but just taking some mma classes and staying in shape will always put you a cut above in general.
Its not a contest about who's better, Bruce of Wong Shun Leung. Bruce was smart and bright. He learned a bit of wing chun from Ip man. Certainly not the whole system. He also learned a lot of other stuff from other martial artists and blended it all together to make it his own Jeet Kune do. However; some of his most famous moves are nothing more and nothing less than what you can expect from a trained wing chun martial artist (one inch punch, speed in his punches, deflecting hands, etc).
@Abgef Please refrain from stating that 'fancy maneuvers' are unrealistic, they are not complicated, and they work, though i agree with your statement that not all stories are right, i still think that this is effective in doing what it was designed for... fighting in close combat. If you want a complicated move that will be very likely to fail, try a TKD jumping back thrust :-)
@Abgef Agree with your last part that fights in Kung fu movies are terribly unrealistic... though i will argue still because it is fun to see what others think. I do agree that this video make it seem very slow, but this is for demonstration purposes. When it comes to martial arts, it is all about application, complicated moves are used for demonstration purposes. in a fight, most people will use what they are comfortable with. Wing chun is no exception, it is effective one way or another!
@Stimpackswe I'm glad you clarified what you meant then. You can't expect me to know what you meant with a vague statement like "Even bruce lee was not able to beat him" but I'll be honest Bruce himself was also taught by Ip man, he wouldn't have been that far off even if it was just pure sticking hands. Bruce had speed in sticking hands but Wong would have had way more technique. Would have been amazing to watch nonetheless.
@Stimpackswe Wong Shun Leung was about the same age as Lee. Theres even a photo of Wong with lee on the set of Enter the Dragon. They are about the same age I think.
i love this movie.. although im am not a chinese.. i really want to learn Wing chun.. i think there's no branch here in the Phil. hahah I really love this movie.. specialy when it coms to Sui Lim Tau!
@Stimpackswe The fact also remains that they never fought, so you're also speculating. Sure he won a 100 fights but vs people who were still doing robotic forms and animal forms. I still don't get where and how (in theory) that you believe wong can beat bruce lee in his prime.
내가 아는 양반 하시는 말씀이 런닝머신 속도 16으로 한시간 뛰고 쉼없이 레그프레스 288키로로 열개 한 세트로 12세트하고 쉼없이 레그 익스텐션 120키로로 열개 한 세트로 12세트하고 쉼없이 앞차기 700번 옆차기 700번 앞돌려차기 뒤돌려차기 700번 뒤차기 700번 을 매일 목표로 연습하고 ( 각 각 좌우 250번씩 양발차기 100번씩 두번으로.... )이게 전혀 쉼없이 숨이 거의 안 찰 정도까지 운동을 하고 무술이나 격투기를 배우면 도움이 많이 된답니다. 쫌만 다 참고 견디고 울고 한숨쉬고 욕하면서 버티면 매일하면 이년에서 삼년이면 가능하답니다. 하루 세시간씩만 쉬는 시간 전혀 없이.... 다이어트에도 그만이랍니다. 식단 괸리 없이도... 이 정도만 해도 골반 허리 어깨 웬만큼 단단하면서 탄성있고 유연하게 바뀐답니다.
Anyone seen video of Wing Chun used in a real life scenario? Most if what I see are techniques being used against chain or straight line punches. Hardly ever see a hook or uppercut thrown. Would be nice to see how a wing chun practitioner deals with a variety of punches, not just straight punches
You do have point but ppl that know how to fight won't really throw hooks unless they can't fight which what you are saying but there somes techniques for that u just gotta keep searching for it I seen some for hook and uppercut but I seen them using there's palms to parry it
It would be embarrassing in a fight if you did a defence technique like pak sau and do it too fast without the opponent even attacking you and u retract and got a punch from another guy
Catcher Saurizard that is where sticking hands come into play. You can't rely on a few minutes of watching the basics and expect to defeat someone who has been fighting in instinct their entire life. Like all things it takes time.
@Stimpackswe yes :D if youve ever seen the 2nd Ip Man film hes the guy who 1st shows up on Ip mans training balcony with the cocky attitude and tries to fight him ^^ but then becomes his student along with some others guys :) great movie..
It's a weird statement to say that "Bruce Lee was not able to beat him" because Wing Chun is not about "beating" your opponent, it's about "adapting" to your opponent and "flowing TOGETHER with him"... "INVITING HIM IN AND ESCORTING HIM OUT" so therefore by you saying Bruce Lee was unable to beat him is a ridiculous saying and thus showing your "unability to understand Wing Chun".. Remember Bruce said "BE WATER, MY FRIEND" because water "ADAPTS" to its surroundings and takes shape of any form..
I like Wing Chun but what happens in a street encounter when you are not wearing very loose trousers or worse a skirt? Probably the best self defence method is to study the fighting techniques of the old prize fighters like Richard Humpreys or Daniel Mendoza. Pugilism emphasises punching,mostly to the body with some grappling.
about as much as an elderly brother (si-hing) does in every school around the globe... why is it so relevant how little bruce learned from whom? why do we care about an actor, who left his si-fu pretty early.. and had to reinvent a lot of wheels, based on the beginners knowledge he managed to obtain. The real respect should be with those students of IP man who stayed with the art, art and loyal to their si-fu. Wong Shun Leung, Leung Ting, ip chun ..and many more
@Stimpackswe Look at your top comment. "And even bruce lee was not able to beat him" that's a pretty strong stance don't you think? if it's just a theory then you should at least back it up and say at which point of Bruce's life wong would be able to beat him. I can imagine wong having difficulties with a 24 year old version of Bruce already (the time he was doing kato) as he was incredibly fast. The Bruce that went back to HK is even better, I'd say in Return of the Dragon.
Actually Wong never defeated Bruce. maybe when he was training him as a young teen, but not after Bruce became a beast of a martial artists after he got back from the States.
VHS era right here and I love the background music on top of the cool lessons
This video is probly the most interesting vid on Wing Chung I have seen... Online.
ONE OF THE BEST IN THIS FIELD, VERY WELL EXPLAINED BY A REAL MASTER
I could not be more grateful of found this videos. Just when i am studing this marti al art. Besides i love bruce lee. Thanks
Grandmaster Ip Man was Bruces Sifu and Grandmaster Wong Chun Leung was his Sihing (Senior Student). If I remember correctly Bruce actually learned from Grandmaster Wong most of the time. You can see that much of Bruces philosofy is inspired by grandmaster Wong. He was a great fighter. As mentioned he won around 60 or even more. He was never defeated.
This is true.
Thank you for sharing the video ! I love this martial art
I am fortunate enough to own this entire video (vhs) series as my Instructor migrated to N,Y.C. from Hong Kong in 1970. his Instructor was Ng Wah Sum, a.k.a. Lightening Sum, who studied under Leung Shung, Grandmaster Ip Man's first diciple in Hong Kong.
Is it possible to train Wing Chun by yourself without a training partner ? Like only imagining a sparring partner ? Because I would like to train Wing Chun because of the beautiful moves I see in this video . greetings happy Eastern for you , Alex de Lisa ♪♥♪
gladietita Greetings, thank you, and Happy Easter to you as well :-) To be quite honest, it's not really a good idea to practice alone if you're not formally trained. The reason being it's very easy to do what feels good even though it's not correct, with no one to guide and correct you these movements will become part of you in the form of "bad habits". With Wing Chun, What you see is only a part of the story, the feelings involved in the movements are more meaningful and important. This is why one should train with a qualified instructor.
gladietita not really. its like anything, you have to go through it to really become familiar and proficient.
gladietita also, just because there is no dojo, you can practice with a friend. it may not be as scientific but try to find someone already into it, or another form of self-defense for whatever you have available. most of them are related in some ways, and you can always be learning more later. try to focus on aspects of boxing/wing chun, regular karate is good for a few ideas too, BJJ is also very good to know when you get taken down! Judo can help with that though as well. studying and trying all these helps to get a more complete picture of how 2 human bodies interact with each other while in a fight or movement in general, as in aikido which focus on circular momentum. be like water lol as Bruce lee said. but just taking some mma classes and staying in shape will always put you a cut above in general.
Is this Karate if you please?
Great wing chun video by master Wong Shun Leung, show that wing chun also have good leg attack
It is so wonderful that he did this on film. Bravo to Master WSL!
Its not a contest about who's better, Bruce of Wong Shun Leung.
Bruce was smart and bright. He learned a bit of wing chun from Ip man. Certainly not the whole system. He also learned a lot of other stuff from other martial artists and blended it all together to make it his own Jeet Kune do.
However; some of his most famous moves are nothing more and nothing less than what you can expect from a trained wing chun martial artist (one inch punch, speed in his punches, deflecting hands, etc).
I learned more from these videos from anything I leaned in grade 6 karate class
love these skills
Economy of energy. Now, I like this idea!
@Abgef Please refrain from stating that 'fancy maneuvers' are unrealistic, they are not complicated, and they work, though i agree with your statement that not all stories are right, i still think that this is effective in doing what it was designed for... fighting in close combat.
If you want a complicated move that will be very likely to fail, try a TKD jumping back thrust :-)
Thanks for sharing! Have an awesome day!
Very interested and wellcombinations of techniques and teaching. Sifu Wong is super!
@Abgef
Agree with your last part that fights in Kung fu movies are terribly unrealistic... though i will argue still because it is fun to see what others think. I do agree that this video make it seem very slow, but this is for demonstration purposes.
When it comes to martial arts, it is all about application, complicated moves are used for demonstration purposes. in a fight, most people will use what they are comfortable with. Wing chun is no exception, it is effective one way or another!
I've used similar methods in tong-long thank you..
This video is good this style can not be mastered overnight be patient and study and practice each move one at a time
this is very helpful, thanks for posting.
my goodness you are right! i would have never noticed! good eye!
Wonderful video👍
Thank you🌹
Best video with real styles and well explained,
This is awesome!
Amazing video, wing chun is so beautiful..
OUTSTANDING TRAINING!
@Stimpackswe I'm glad you clarified what you meant then. You can't expect me to know what you meant with a vague statement like "Even bruce lee was not able to beat him" but I'll be honest Bruce himself was also taught by Ip man, he wouldn't have been that far off even if it was just pure sticking hands. Bruce had speed in sticking hands but Wong would have had way more technique. Would have been amazing to watch nonetheless.
I love it!
Practice make perfect .
these are great. imagine if a huge brit boxer was put up against a nordic martial artist? now with size n weight is truly a art for all!
6:50 - "The Little Idea Form" - "Although most kung fu styles retain a considerable number of instructional forms, Wing Chun has only three..."
Wingchun I love it😊
@ofarfo And I love knowing a style that adapts to one's interpretations
This is the best video for for learning. Wing Chun! This music remind me of old porn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 smile laugh please! no disrespect lol!
I AM FROM HONG KONG 🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰🇭🇰 我来自香港.
Master Wong was very powerful. He was a pleasant human.
very good vidéo,the bases...thanks
just love the movement .just want to know where i can learn
wing chun form
Mimic video and your on your way
good techniques.... i like wing chun....
very interesting,and it's work
very useful. thank you.
nice videos man ;-)
Me two love it
does anyone know where i can get more vintage wing chun videos??
@Stimpackswe Wong Shun Leung was about the same age as Lee. Theres even a photo of Wong with lee on the set of Enter the Dragon. They are about the same age I think.
is that ted wong as one of the assistants?
These is the real wingchun
How do you know?
The music has me typing at 37 wpm
Love Master Wong.
I love master Wong too. My Facebook channel is: Javoh li.
this music is the best
exactly what i thought too !! is really a good background for this kind of teaching ?!
It really is...
i love this movie.. although im am not a chinese.. i really want to learn Wing chun.. i think there's no branch here in the Phil. hahah I really love this movie.. specialy when it coms to Sui Lim Tau!
Sifu IP Man in the background
Ip Sifu*
Did you bow and say "thank you Sifu" for teaching me??
Очень красиво
They all trained together
This theme plays in restaurants while you eating chops dino chicken nuggets
My favorite
@Stimpackswe he was also undefeated in the beimo competetions
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MORE VIDEO.,PLS
muito bom muito bom
Good point
Excellent
this move combine with chokeslam could be destructive
I hope wing chun martial arts can exist in East Kalimantan (borneo), especially in the city of Balikpapan
@Stimpackswe The fact also remains that they never fought, so you're also speculating. Sure he won a 100 fights but vs people who were still doing robotic forms and animal forms. I still don't get where and how (in theory) that you believe wong can beat bruce lee in his prime.
right !
They both did.
Wong shun leung did too.
Is the best
👍👍
i love the sound of "hitting the air" :D
무도의 기본은 몸을 단련하여 가진 강한 신체를 더욱 유연하게 하여 신체를 보호하기위한 몸을위한 수련이다.
싸움은 나의 몸과 신체를 시험하는것이다.
(尋好友師兄)3.11 白衫中醫師還健在否?
🙏
Wow,I'm ready to kick some serious ass
okok
in 3:22 thats the picture of ip man, right?
@sam bacasijos jr Exectely
were are you located at are you in louisiana
he passed away
sorry to here that i really admired his self defense style
내가 아는 양반 하시는 말씀이 런닝머신 속도 16으로 한시간 뛰고 쉼없이 레그프레스 288키로로 열개 한 세트로 12세트하고 쉼없이 레그 익스텐션 120키로로 열개 한 세트로 12세트하고 쉼없이 앞차기 700번 옆차기 700번 앞돌려차기 뒤돌려차기 700번 뒤차기 700번 을 매일 목표로 연습하고 ( 각 각 좌우 250번씩 양발차기 100번씩 두번으로.... )이게 전혀 쉼없이 숨이 거의 안 찰 정도까지 운동을 하고 무술이나 격투기를 배우면 도움이 많이 된답니다. 쫌만 다 참고 견디고 울고 한숨쉬고 욕하면서 버티면 매일하면 이년에서 삼년이면 가능하답니다. 하루 세시간씩만 쉬는 시간 전혀 없이.... 다이어트에도 그만이랍니다. 식단 괸리 없이도... 이 정도만 해도 골반 허리 어깨 웬만큼 단단하면서 탄성있고 유연하게 바뀐답니다.
Anyone seen video of Wing Chun used in a real life scenario? Most if what I see are techniques being used against chain or straight line punches. Hardly ever see a hook or uppercut thrown. Would be nice to see how a wing chun practitioner deals with a variety of punches, not just straight punches
You do have point but ppl that know how to fight won't really throw hooks unless they can't fight which what you are saying but there somes techniques for that u just gotta keep searching for it I seen some for hook and uppercut but I seen them using there's palms to parry it
@@Imjustspeakingmymind Thanks for the reply! I have since found some videos demonstrating such
i thought Yip Man taught bruce lee.. it was said bruce was his last student
It would be embarrassing in a fight if you did a defence technique like pak sau and do it too fast without the opponent even attacking you and u retract and got a punch from another guy
Catcher Saurizard that is where sticking hands come into play. You can't rely on a few minutes of watching the basics and expect to defeat someone who has been fighting in instinct their entire life. Like all things it takes time.
hii christo..can I have it too pls
Lets see this stuff work at full speed.
wing chun is may dipens
OMFG ALL THOSE COMMENTS COME BACK TO THE SAME, IP MAN IS A BAWZ.
@Stimpackswe yes :D if youve ever seen the 2nd Ip Man film hes the guy who 1st shows up on Ip mans training balcony with the cocky attitude and tries to fight him ^^ but then becomes his student along with some others guys :) great movie..
It's a weird statement to say that "Bruce Lee was not able to beat him" because Wing Chun is not about "beating" your opponent, it's about "adapting" to your opponent and "flowing TOGETHER with him"... "INVITING HIM IN AND ESCORTING HIM OUT" so therefore by you saying Bruce Lee was unable to beat him is a ridiculous saying and thus showing your "unability to understand Wing Chun".. Remember Bruce said "BE WATER, MY FRIEND" because water "ADAPTS" to its surroundings and takes shape of any form..
I like Wing Chun but what happens in a street encounter when you are not wearing very loose trousers or worse a skirt?
Probably the best self defence method is to study the fighting techniques of the old prize fighters like Richard Humpreys or Daniel Mendoza. Pugilism emphasises punching,mostly to the body with some grappling.
about as much as an elderly brother (si-hing) does in every school around the globe... why is it so relevant how little bruce learned from whom? why do we care about an actor, who left his si-fu pretty early.. and had to reinvent a lot of wheels, based on the beginners knowledge he managed to obtain. The real respect should be with those students of IP man who stayed with the art, art and loyal to their si-fu. Wong Shun Leung, Leung Ting, ip chun ..and many more
zoolkhan I agree
@yeon723 But the fact remains, that he never did beat him. So you can speculate in various scenarios all you want.
@Stimpackswe Look at your top comment. "And even bruce lee was not able to beat him" that's a pretty strong stance don't you think? if it's just a theory then you should at least back it up and say at which point of Bruce's life wong would be able to beat him. I can imagine wong having difficulties with a 24 year old version of Bruce already (the time he was doing kato) as he was incredibly fast. The Bruce that went back to HK is even better, I'd say in Return of the Dragon.
UGHHHH IM SO CONFUSED WITH THE KICKS :(
There pretty straight forward
Ran out of 'characters'
thank you for an interesting talk.
that will be my last rebuttal.
mah, buono!
3:24 ip man
+lawgasman who?
Actually Wong never defeated Bruce. maybe when he was training him as a young teen, but not after Bruce became a beast of a martial artists after he got back from the States.
RIP Master Yip.
Are you kidding me?. Wong Shun Leung was about the same age as Lee, did you even do your research?