I'm from Slovakia, a predominantly Catholic country; I encountered the JW's when I was like 6 years old, a classmate of mine in preschool was telling me about the end of the world that is coming and only those who know the Bible will be saved. I remember I was thinking I'm safe because I had my children's Bible and have read all of it 😅. My mum explained to me about the JW's, this girl's mum was apparently one. They were actually viewed as a dangerous cult in my country back then. It was at the time of the fall of the Communist regime. The girl's mum unfortunately died by falling out of her window, we all thought it was connected. Currently the JW's are one of the registered religions in my country, meaning they get government subsidy for the ministers' pay. However they are still viewed as a cult, mostly because of their beliefs about blood transfusions etc. The SDA also operate here but they're an even smaller minority. They have a better reputation because some of their members are big at promoting healthy lifestyle and vegetarian cuisine. One of the biggest and oldest producers of vegetarian food esp. made from soy in the country was actually founded by a SDA. We also have a very small minority of evangelical churches and they are usually viewed as cults too, esp the charismatic and prosperity gospel ones. A very different situation than in the US I suppose 😅
SDA and JW both use cult-like tactics on their members, like instilling fear, creating an elitist attitude, and operating in a secretive fashion. Both of these groups will hound you if you try and leave because they believe you are making a grave mistake. SDA are taught to fear Catholics and the Catholic Church. They also target predominantly Catholic countries and believe abortion is a valid choice.
@@barborazajacova7633 can I asked you one thing what is the first day of the week...we know one week got 7 day..and what is the first day Mon, Tues, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday which one...?
I was raised protestant (my parents still are) and converted to catholicism though Bryan's videos. Things make way more sense now. No more mental gymnastics to fit what I believe or what different protestants teach but now just what the church teaches and has taught for 2000 years
We ALL need to follow JESUS. BC WHY do Catholics call priests FATHER? with all due? JC LITERALLY said call no man "father" BUT HEAVENLY father v IVE LEARNED JC is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the answer. His words are the ISH.
@@ski6703 Do you call your dad "father" or your teacher "teacher" because under the logic of "call no man father" you can't call your biological father "father". Bryan has a video addressing this very thing. Look at the entire section and put it in context. Jesus is speaking of the Pharisees. Remember Jesus also said "honor your father and mother." I used to say the same thing till a looked at in full context.
@ski6703 Jesus also literally told you to cut off your hand and cut out your eye if it causes you to sin, and he also said you literally must hate your family in order to be his disciple. Jesus often spoke in what's known as Rabinic Hyperbole, where he uses extreme statements just to make a point even though they are not literal statements. Same thing with calling no man, father. And we know this because men are called father from the beginning of the New Testament until the end, both in a physical way and a spiritual way. 1 cor. 4:15
@@CatholicTruthOfficial That is the advantage of coming from an Apostolic Church - you have information like you just posted passed down from elders to clarify your understanding of the Bible.
@CatholicTruthOfficial Hi @Bryan there's a brother called Myles Christian YT channel @Answering Adventism he's very knowledgeable well studied and very cordial he's an X SDA has dedicated his ministry to helping SDA get out. Would be very edifying and helpful if you two would interact and talk about SDA. Thank you and GOD Bless your family and you. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
So sad I was caught up in this evil cult of J. W. For 19yrs. Worst mistake of my life. Did me so much family damage. Blessed to be back in the Catholic Church almost 9yrs ago. Thanks to E.W.T.N The Journey Home started me back on my journey back to the Catholic Church. Thank you Brian. I enjoy your wonderful knowledge as well .God bless you.
Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties of the cult. That's why we make these videos because many people just don't know. We are glad that you got out, though and have been home for 9 years. Praise God!!🙌
As exJw this is really fun to learn new thing about my ex religion. I knew there was connection, but I never knew more about it, when I was there. After I left I become an atheist and many JWs that I know are like me or dont want to join to any other religion. I ponder is it also like this with ex member of SDA or if theyll leave they rather like to go to join to other religion.
Hope you come back. My dad left and didn’t go to other churches and went back after 30 years of devoting himself to his career only to be betrayed in the end and lost his job. Now he’s been back for 10 years and I never seen him happier. I was never baptized but I’m a believer. My goal this year is to be baptized as a JW. Hope you come back. There’s a reason a lot of JW don’t go no where else. We’re pretty unique and I’m not ashamed of it. People say I’m in a cult but that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it.
My dad and his wife are Jehovah’s witnesses. Recently my dad and I have been arguing about the Trinity. I’m a Protestant. But I’m interested in Catholicism, but that neither here nor there. I know my dad is worried about my salvation, he only wants what he believes is best for me, and I’m glad he cares enough to argue with me. I believe the trinity is correct, but honestly I don’t know enough to defend it and it is complex. I also believe that it’s not really my place to argue with my dad about his faith. But I want to know the truth for myself. I’ve gone to Catholic Answers, but again it’s a complex topic. Do you guys have any advice here?
G’day Preston, I am an Australian cradle Catholic. The below might assist you. God is Love To understand YHWH in a nut shell is to understand LOVE. Jesus in the Gospels teaches us to love one another as He loves us, to pray for our enemies and those who persecute us. YHWH does not need us to love Him. He was perfectly happy with His own company before Creation. Yet, He created us to love, worship and glorify Him. If YHWH is LOVE, who did He love before He created the angels or man? He loved YHWH Himself: the lover, God the Father; the beloved, God the Son. The love between the Father and the Son is so intimate, powerful, unlimited and eternal - the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Ghost. Marriage is modelled on the Blessed Trinity: the bride and groom consummate their love, generating a third person, where the life of the Holy Ghost is planted in their child. This is an imperfect analogy, as the Holy Ghost eternally proceeds from the Father and the Son, just as the Son is eternally begotten by the Father. What then (in this world) IS “love”? LOVE is a conscious decision and action by anyone wanting happiness for another, to the point of dying for that person. A fruit of me loving my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is me loving you, my neighbour (even though you might despise and hate me) praying for you, wanting the best for you and praying that you will come to heaven with me. The most profound question that can be asked is: “why did YHWH make us?” The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that it is YHWH’s nature to share His love. Any human relationship gets to a point, where one says to the other, “show me, you love me.” The Son vowed to the Father, “I will demonstrate My Love for You, by creating the physical universe and becoming a man. By my example, man will love and glorify You for eternity. I will demonstrate Our Love with man, to the point that I will allow man to kill me in the most painful, humiliating way possible. I will demonstrate total love of You, to man and how to glorify You, My Father. Creation, included the heavenly beings, we know of as angels. God created angels with free will, to worship and glorify Him and to carry messages to man. Before the creation of time and matter, the Blessed Trinity revealed to the angels the plan between the Father and the Son. Lucifer, proud, powerful and beautiful, refused to bow to the Son, as the God-man, who’s dignity was below the angels. One third of the angels sided with Lucifer, who, with Lucifer, were expelled by the archangel Michael from God’s presence. Prior to creating the angels, eternal YHWH, who exists outside of creation, time and matter, knew (not predestined) and permitted history to unfold. In the Garden, YHWH or more specifically God the Son, communed with Adam and Eve, among the animals, birds and insects, giving them everything they needed for happiness and to freely know, worship and glorify Him. Lucifer, now satan (the adversary), who hated God, His creation, His flesh in the Son, took the physical form of a familiar animal from the Garden. He tricked Adam and Eve through their pride into eating of the Tree of Knowledge. Their eyes were instantly opened, so that they could know good and evil. YHWH did not kill Adam and Eve for their sin and rebellion. Instead, in love, He promised them a Redeemer, from their own flesh, who will crush the head of the serpent. The Son, the New Adam, demonstrating His love for the Father, freely took the place of Adam and accepted the penalty of Adam’s and all man’s sin on the cross. Jesus’s covenantal sacrifice restored the Original Innocence of man, lost by Adam. Adam’s Original Sin closed the gates of heaven to man. The New Adam’s love sacrifice, life, death and resurrection destroyed death and opened heaven’s gates, enabling man to once again have a loving relationship with YHWH.
Have you read the sections in the catechism on the subject? They are at paragraph 249-267, but really the whole section called Profession of Faith deals with the Trinity in places. The Trinity is the God I know, the God I pray to and worship. But explaining it to a friend in the kind of specificity and completeness your question deserves is beyond me. God bless! ❤️🙏♥️
Presto - Good job, defending your face period keep it up. keep praying for your dad and loving him. It's easier to prove the divinity of Christ as a first step to explaining the Trinity, so that's usually where I start, and we have a whole article on that if it helps. catholictruth.org/jesus-is-god/ We also have an article on mormon to deny the Trinity and a lot of the misconceptions that dem and Jehovah's witnesses bring up. catholictruth.org/answering-a-mormon-on-the-trinity/
Your dad doesn't believe Jesus is God either. When I had discussions with a JW he'd always spoke of passages in the bible such as Jesus praying to God the Father and aaking "so was Jesus praying to himself?" And he'd point to other passages showing that Jesus and the Father are clearly separate. Make sure that your dad understands that the Trinity teaches that God the Father and Jesus are not the same. They are 2 different persons.
I am Catholic the only one of my siblings who attends church now, I have been helping out in my local church since Easter 2000. I have a neighbour who is a jehovah witness and married to a church of ireland man. I knew about her religion and growing up from when I moved to a town to when we moved to the countryside we had one or two jehovah witness members visit trying to convert us. It lasted a few months until my mom got bored and invite them in telling them she was not moving religions but would make them tea talk of anything else. 😂 They would come in and for years mom was friends with them. They would now and then leave a magazine, a calendar every year to make out they were trying to convert my mom to others in their local hall. I had no idea jehovah witnesses was so similar to seven days adventists. In Cork City Ireland the synagogue closed down early 2000s. There was not enough male members to keep it open. A beautiful part of the city used to be known as the Jewish sector and the park there is called Shalom park. The old synagogue a few years back became a seven days advetists church.
@@georgeo785 😂😂 it started the night of the last super. That is seen as the first mass. Cannot believe you actually believe the lies you wrote about the Catholic religion. Catholic Truth have a videos on how the Catholic church began.
@@thebigloc1 the funny part is you actually believe that. How many stories have you been told. The first Christian are mentioned at Antioch and the church of real believers started after Jesus died and not before but of course you wouldn't know this because you don't read the Bible. Your told what to believe. You know what they say about the last laugh. It's not going to be funny when and if you ever do find out the truth. I love imoges
Restorationism. Its like a whole branch of churches coming out of the 19th century or end of the 18th. My sister is a die hard JW and I have attended both JW and SDA churches, but never joined. I can see some similarities and some differences, but the deep seated animosity toward Catholics is rampant in their teachings. It's as if they could put aside their differences and make their own united front against anyone that questions or disagrees with their belief construct and dogmas. It's really sad to that any religion alters someone's thinking to reject their own family members especially when people need help.
Yes, I heard from former members, the Mormons are very helpful unless you leave and it is over. I must say I have known many that are not like that, some are relatives and otheres, good friends
They aren't as bad as the catholic church started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. You should look at videos about their history and look at the problems they have now. Pedophile priests, sex, money and power. Evil
My husband (and his family) are SDA. Two years ago he tried to ban all holidays. I told him if I wanted to live that way I would have joined the JW. I never realized how similar those 2 churches are. You learn something new everyday! Great video!
It's important to remember that the people that attend these sects believe they are Christians, believe in God and in Christ, and are more often than not good loving people; they are simply misguided or have been led astray. I was raised as JW, and after 20 years of wanting nothing to do with religion while recovering from the first 20 of trauma, I can tell you I am glad to have found the Catholic Church. It was the good example of everyday people as well as friends and family that led me to learn more and take my first RCIA class. So, keep this in mind: your example can help others!
Part of that soul sleep doctrine comes from ecclesiastes 9:5 Edit to add i am a former JW. I used to knock on doors trying to convert people. I could talk for hours about the mental gymnastics witnesses go through to stay in "the truth"
Yes,the Bible uses the term sleep to denote death. 2 Timothy 3:16. Jesus says that Lazarus is asleep, but the disciples had another idea,they thought he was taking rest,but Jesus said he was dead. Sleep = dead,many of the Old Testament prophets used the term to denote death. Dead means dead.
My wife's uncle is a SDA pastor. His little church was "famous" for billboards and newspaper articles against the catholic church in the 90s. I enjoy refuting his nonsensical claims. Two major things in common are that their founders had Arian/semi Arian beliefs just like the Jehovah Witnesses. This is why they both believe Jesus is literally Michael the archangel. This is one of their own theologians who sat in the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventists. They oversee the whole SDA church in the world from Silver Spring Maryland. Their founder's Christology and Pneumatology were incorrect. "Our pioneers clearly held Arian or semi-Arian views in regard to the person of Christ. They understood “firstborn over all creation” (Col 1:15) and “only begotten Son” (John 3:16) in a literal sense. The Father, therefore, was first and superior, and the Son, who had a beginning sometime in eternity, was subordinate to the Father. A corollary of this view was the belief that the Holy Spirit is an influence or the power of God, but not a person." (Gerhard Pfandl, Biblical Research Institute, The Doctrine of the Trinity Among Seventh-day Adventists; Journal of the Adventist Theological Society, 17/1 (Spring 2006): 160-179)
"Among the prominent pioneers who initially rejected the Trinity were Joseph Bates, James White, J. N. Loughborough, R. F. Cottrell, J. N. Andrews, and Uriah Smith. Bates and White retained an anti-Trinitarians view from the Christian Connection Church from which they emerged. Bates’ own confession in 1868 was that “it was impossible for [him] to believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, was also the Almighty God, the Father, one and the same being,”[1] and James White wrote against the doctrine in the Review and Herald in1855. For Loughborough, this doctrine was “contrary to common sense, … contrary to scripture,” and of pagan origin,[2] and Cottrell condemned it for its Catholic roots and its relation to the rice of the papacy. Moving to the exegetical arguments, J. N. Andrews interpreted “having neither beginning of days” in Hebrews 7:3 as symbolic, since none but the Father were eternal, Jesus Himself having had “at some point in the eternity of the past …a beginning of days.”[3] In 1865 Uriah Smith believed that Christ was “the first created being.”[4] Expressions like “firstborn over all creation”[5] and “only begotten Son”[6] were taken in a literal sense, contributing to the idea that Christ was subordinated to the Father."
Well l follow the Apostle Paul because Jesus Christ chose him to be the Apostle to the gentiles. The catholic church started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Judgement Day for all the innocent people they have murdered and negatively affected. Pedophile priests,sex, money and power.
@@georgeo785 I can tell you haven't read the bible. Might want to focus on that before you start regurgitating whatever church "history" your protestant pastor told you. 1 Corinthians 3: 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
@@johnsix.51-69 l hear your typical told what to say response all the time. Brainwashed people like you aren't all owed to read or think for yourself. I bet you use a Bible put together by agnostics that took the writings from Alexandria Egypt. A terrible place. A type of the world that God told Israel to stay away from. If your church is so good why are you the only one with all the scandals pedophile priests pregnant nuns coverups by the higher ups and the pope. The person you call father when Jesus Christ said call no man father. Real Christians have one Father and He is God. You make an honest Christian regurgitate. Ha ha. Regurgitate sounds like something a cult follower would say. Martin Luther tried to warn people about your cult
I was raised a JW and have family still very much involved with the religion. I remember we passed a Romanian Seventh Day Adventists church on the way to the Kingdom Hall and when I would ask my relatives or other members about them since they looked so similar in terms of dress. The answer I got was “oh they are like Pentecostals” and they use that broad brush on a lot of other Protestant religions and you go on and don’t question or research because that’s a big “no no!” It’s not till I left that you realize how similar they are to the Witnesses also recently a colleague of mine from the Philippines told me they sounded a lot like “Iglesia de Cristo” that’s gaining a lot of traction.
Salli, If you're interested and don't live too far away I can send you a free book. It's written by a former member of the governing body who exposed the whole organization and one of the best books to refute the Jehovah's witnesses. If interested email us: Info@catholictruth.org
They are what happens when a zealously religious person is in a deserted place, separated from his neighbors by miles of forest, divorced from the Apostolic or any other tradition, free to peruse the Scriptures during long, brutal winters. Invariably he will either be deranged or a heretic at the end. Quite possibly both.
I actually came across someone like that in the comments under another Catholic channel. The guy claimed he got a supernatural encounter with God when he was isolated on an oil rig or something. Had been an atheist before that. Had nothing but a Bible and by reading it he arrived to a kind of Calvinist view of Christianity. He debated the Catholic view from that standpoint. It was very interesting. People have all kinds of experiences. That's why it's important to remember that even if we have authentic encounters or revelation from the Holy Spirit we always filter it through our own person and we can easily get into error. That's why the Catholic Church discerns private revelation in light of the Bible and Church teaching. I use that principle too, as best as I can because I'm not a theologian, but I make sure to study my faith well.
I tested stuff and found some experiences artificially generated and must be tested to get true or false. You can't believe everything including experiences anymore...
catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Their history is of murder and deception. Pedophile priests, sex, money and power
I was an sda and i used to believe that ALL Sunday keeping churches get the mark of a beast as Ellen White wrote. Im glad God opened my eyes when I started reading my Bible without others telling me how to understand it. Though it's tough when your family see you as if you were drifting away from the truth
When I studied with the witnesses the one glaring problem I noticed is the michael is jesus thing. The prophet Daniel and John the revelator both saw visions of the son of man and the archangel michael. It's just too much of a coincidence that neither prophet noticed they were the same person.
I asked the Jehovah's Witnesses to show me. Where in the Bible that Jesus was Michael, the archangel. They said that Jesus had the voice of an archangel. So I said, how does that make him Michael? How does that make him an archangel? How is that not symbolic since it also says he has eyes of fire and other symbolic descriptions?
@@CatholicTruthOfficiallooks at multiple discrepancies and descriptions to complete connections side by side. The bible had cannon, fannon works and did not hold a certain weight...etc. all you do is get a biblical concordance and look up variations of words per culture to understand modern syntax and linguistics. You will find the truth completely different...no Christian org has the full cannon version or understood fannon works...etc
I am a practicing Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, Apostles Creed believing Christian. If I don't believe in Transubstantiation, Purgatory (which require the treasury of merit and indulgences), Infallibility of the Pope, or typical Roman Catholic Dogma. Will I still be saved and go to heaven?
Great!! That's a great start! It's not the fulness of the faith, and we can talk about those other things, but transubstantiation was found among the earliest Christians, as well, for example. Nobody knows who is going to be saved but God alone, so we cannot say. But we can say that Jesus started the Catholic Church and wants everyone to be part of that Church. To be outside the Church is usually to be outside Christ since he is the head and the church is the body. Some Catholics don't believe everything either. Or, should I say, don't understand everything. We can always seek deeper understanding for those things we don't fully understand. Hope that helps.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I am glad to hear that you specifically don't outwardly condemn non Roman Catholics Christians. There were many ideas that came to be believed by the early Christians as gnostic belief crept in creating the requirement for ecumenical councils between all of the church bishops to route our heresy. I would account people like Augustine of Hippo, who was a gnostic philosopher, for injecting these types of mystic ideas to explain the unexplainable. These ideas were not all widely accepted, The Bishop of Rome, originally the of Eastern Orthodox Church, continued to push these ideas and claimed supremacy over the "Church" which resulted in the Great Schism in 1054 and birth of the Roman Catholic Church. The Catholic Church you mention that Jesus started is not todays Roman Catholic Church even though they can certainly claim ancestral heritage. The Original Church was described as both Orthodox and Catholic by definition. Having said that, I believe that all Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, Apostles Creed believing Christians, which includes Roman Catholics and others, will not be excluded from heaven based on the deviations of their dogmas.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thank you very much for your response. I have been interested in asking questions to an authoritative Catholic source. I believe many Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, believing denominations exclude others for, what I would consider, traditions that are subjectively interpreted. As long as the beliefs and traditions do not deviate or negate any portion of the Nicene Creed, Churches were deemed to be members of the body of Crist in 325 AD. Even though the Word of God has been preserved, interpretations vary. It appears you have a similar belief based on your response. I would say that the original Church was/is orthodox, catholic, and apostolic (little letters); Not Catholic, which implies Roman Catholicism that broke away from the Orthodox Church in 1054 during the Great Schism. I think we also have to be careful when we validate an idea based on the age of it if it is not directly, specifically, and unequivocally from the mouth of Jesus or the Apostles. It could be argued that Augustine of Hippo introduce many mystic ideas into the Church due to his Gnostic Philosophic background, which was popular at the time. Variations occur over time and through different forms of reformation/renewal which are interpretations that seem to be based on our human need to explain the unexplainable. Unfortunately, some were created and/or used to differentiate groups as the catholic (One True) church, meaning the others are not. Some groups go further to say that you can not be saved unless you are part of there specific denomination. Again, thank you for your time.
They have different beliefs, but are part of the same branch of restorationism. Riddled with false prophecies and the same old line " we are the true church with God's salvation in here " Lots of doctrinal changes, mental gymnastics, cognitive dissonance, and finger pointing at other churches as false.
Catholic truths seems to not really understand the beliefs of seventh day adventists at all, notice how he ignores the most obvious difference between the sda church and jehovas witnesses which is the fact that jws reject the trinity while sdas agree about the trinity. That is a huge difference that this man ignored. Furthermore he makes claims about how sda chuches have different beliefs about hell, of course we do, because we go by scripture unlike catholics. Let me begin by making the strongest argument that hell is not “eternal torment” rather “eternal destruction”. Matthew 10:28 reads “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Notice how that verse says God can destroy both body and soul in hell, not eternally torment… furthermore revelations mentions a second death 4 times as what will happen to the wicked, not eternal torment, you see it in revelations 2:11, 20:6, 20:14, and 21:8. Last time I remember when you die you seize to exist, the first death we all experience including the righteous, but the second death is reserved for the wicked as said in revelations… I will also prove that soul sleep is biblical as well in my further rebuttal. Meanwhile I will keep proving with more verses that hell in the bible is about a second death, perishing, or destruction, not eternal torment. John 3:16 reads “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Notice how that verse reffers to perishing of those who reject Jesus, while those who accept him have everlasting life, that verse does not mention eternal torment for people who reject Jesus Christ, rather perishing for them. Malachi 4:verse 1 reads “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” What does it mean to burn something up? And to not leave root nor branch? It means the wicked will be destroyed, not tormented eternally. Furthermore verse 4 reads “And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.” That verse says the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous, not eternally tormented. Also what is the wages for sin? Death, not eternal torment, this is said in Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Notice how verse after verse reffers to the punishment of the wicked as destruction, a second death, or perishing, not eternal torment. I already know the arguments catholics make to try and justify their false belief of eternal torment and I welcome any catholic who reads this to post those verses so we can go over them in context. I already know the most common arguments include the rich mans parable, revelations 14:11, the verse about the worm, the fire of hell being called eternal ect… please catholics I welcome you to make those arguments. Now I will prove that soul sleep is a true doctrine, ecclesiastes 9:5-6 reads “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.” Wait that verse tells us the dead “know nothing”, it does not say they are being eternally tormented at all. The best proof of eternal sleep/soul sleep actually comes from Jesus himself regarding the ressurection of lazarus. John 11:11-14 reads “These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.” Notice how Jesus himself reffers to lazarus as being asleep as he is dead, he does not say he is in heaven, nor in eternal torment. 1 thessalonians 4:16 reads “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” Wait, that verse is regarding the second coming of Jesus, it clearly tells us that the dead in christ will rise first, it does not say anything about the dead in christ having already risen. Revelations chapter 20 I reccomend all of you people read it, tells us in verse 5 that those dead who did not rise after Jesus came back will not rise after 1,000 years have finished…. The wicked however will remain in their grave until the day of judgement according to matthew 13:41-42 which reads “As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” That verse tells us the angels of God will gather the wicked at the end of the world. Also the sabbath is something the seventh day adventists take seriously, because it is the 4th commandment written in the law of God aka the ten commandments, I already have rebutted catholic truths answers regarding the sabbath which he has failed to address with an accurate response. I challenge all catholics to prove me wr
So you go by the Bible but what SDA founder had anything to do with determining the Canon of scripture? I'll answer.. nobody. Where did you get the Bible? The Catholic Church. Where did you get the doctrine of the Trinity. The Catholic Church. You already trust the authority of the Catholic Church , Ms White was not a prophet of God. Why would you follow that woman?😮
@@R.C.A.T You do realize that the first christian church followers where under persecution in Rome right, after constantine the catholic church started coming to power after the ruler justinian which passed down power to the papacy. The catholic church would kill/excommunicate anybody who went against their teachings? The catholic church deemed anybody that did not follow and obey their teachings a “heretic” and either excommunicated them or burned them at the steak. Have you never learned about what the catholic church did to the waldesians, Jan hus, thomas hitton, and anybody who did not obey the catholic churches traditions/teachings? Maybe if the catholic church did not murder people who did not abide by their teachings during the dark ages. then the biblical doctrines that expose the catholic church could have been popular teachings back then. Also the bible scriptures where not given to us by the catholic church, they where simply recognized by the catholic church. Those scriptures where authoritative because of who had wrote them, not because the catholic church gave them to us, the catholic church simply recognized what was already authentic. And the catholic church did not give us the bible, the old testament was part of the bible, yet the old testament was not given to us by the catholic church, the jews had the old testament established prior to the catholic church. And the trinity is a concept found in scripture not a concept made by the catholic church… we can see the concept of God having a spirit even in the old testament in the first page of Genesis. We can see Jesus claiming the ability to forgive sins and equating himself with God in the new testament. Simply be reading the ghospels and pauls writtings you get the concept of the trinity. The teaching of the trinity is found in scripture, it does not come from the carholic church. Now how about you debate my main point? You claim purgatory is real yet the bible does not support that teaching at all. Are you just going to openly ignore to give any rebuttal to all the verses I quoted regarding soul sleep or eternal torment? Begin by explaining to me what matthew 10:28 means? Wait the catholic church claims the soul is eternal and cannot be destroyed, but matthew 10:28 tells us “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to DESTROY both soul and body in hell.” Funny how the teachings of the catholic church do no align with bible scripture. If the teachings of ellen G white align with the bible scriptures then I believe her, if they do not then I do not believe her. So instead of trying to deflect from the points I make how about you address how come every single verse I mentioned in my main comment contradicts the concept of purgatory, eternal torment, and hell and heaven right after death?
@@R.C.A.Tanyhow do you care to debate the sabbath or eternal torment? Adress the comments I made in my response, please tell me what I got wrong regarding soul sleep or eternal torment when the bible clearly teaches that?
This is somewhat off topic Bryan but I'd love to see you debate Gavin Ortlund PHD from Truth Unites. He's a protestant apologist and I can't help thinking it would be a fascinating exchange as you are both so knowledgable, if opposed. In my opinion you had the upper hand with Mike Gendron (as much as I admire his sincerity) but I'm guessing that Gavin has a deeper theological base. It's not that I want to see a theological fight as such...more that it could be valuable in clarifying key differences between Catholicism and Protestantism. And from two men with very strong background in apologetics. Anyway just a thought! Thank you for all your work, I've learned so much 😊🙏
It may just be me... but I can't get your merch link to work. I did get it to open by deleting the front of the link and the back of the link though... makes me think it is just me.
Exactly, you can't just quote one verse out of context and expect to create a doctor and around it. Especially when you have to ignore half the New Testament. We explain what that verse actually means here. ruclips.net/user/shortsTwf3OMxGQsE?feature=share4
If you think that the deity of Christ is a small point, then, yes, they have the same beliefs. SDA's believe Jesus is God the Son, JW's believe he is a created being. I would call that a significant difference.
@@remnantime3672 They were heretics which is why EGW quickly changed her writings to try to affirm the trinity after James and Uriah and Joseph Bates died. She knew her cult would die off. All four are now in Hell
JW is like Uber and SDA is like Lyft. SDA pulled out of JW and did their own thing over disputes of bible interpretations. SDA founders inside of JW was adamant the sabbath day was Saturday hence the name. So in the beginning that was the only difference between the two. Now it’s a lot more different but probably the most similar to each other.
How the history of the catholic church. It's far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Why do you think they are having so much bad publicity. Pedophile priest, sex, money and power. Evil. They are mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Not good they will be repaid for all the evil they have done to innocent people
I am in crisis at the moment, I was baptized catholic, but strayed away from the faith, for many years, I've had bad experiences with priests, I won't go into detail, that was the final straw for me, and I left. It has never being explained to me what my faith entails. I have been with the JWs for a time now, they are lovely people, but I am beginning to realize that they are not what they portray themselves out, I was basically chastised recently for liking Ann Rice novels, and I was deterred from it. I am trying to distance myself from them, I am trying to leave in a tactful way, but I feel eventually I'll be shunned. Please help, I want to be reconnected to my Catholic faith, but I want to learn and be whole again. I am in such turmoil 🙏they are displaying classic cult like behavior.
That's because they are a cult. One of the biggest. I've known countless Jehovah's Witnesses believe, and their families never talk to them again. We interviewed a former Witness, a high up Witness in the watchtower who converted to Catholicism. You might be interested in his story and also in our other JW videos which we will link below. As for learning about Catholicism, you came to the right place! That's what we do! So many Catholics, former catholics, and other religions have said they've learned so much about Catholicism by watching our videos. So, you will learn a ton about the Catholic faith just by watching our videos too. We will link a few below to get you started. Of course, if you ever have any questions, let us know. Origin of the Catholic Church ruclips.net/video/lTWFu6ByR2Q/видео.html 0 Constantine did NOT start the Catholic Church: ruclips.net/video/9TjYdbHShJE/видео.html 10 Bible verses that Prove the Catholic faith: ruclips.net/video/bMIFdiUt0q4/видео.html 10 reasons I left the Catholic church. ruclips.net/video/vj3B-ytlwf8/видео.html 10 reasons I left the Catholic church. Part 2 ruclips.net/video/qrdGHL06kzA/видео.html Anti-catholic arguments: ruclips.net/video/lpc1Ev622DA/видео.html What Catholics believe about the Saints: ruclips.net/video/ZTKMXuhP-vE/видео.html What Catholics believe about Mary: ruclips.net/video/t9orgxZDUYs/видео.html JW VIDS Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/bL54-XoUVIA/видео.html History of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/gQtSXWREf90/видео.html The biggest error of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/2lma9la6ca0/видео.html A prominent Jehovah's Witness converts to the Catholic Church: ruclips.net/video/AIAgtiFNdXo/видео.html True Stories of talking to Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/S5PFfjA2tPE/видео.html
Learning about the catholic faith is easy nowadays. Just make sure to follow Trent horn, scott hann, steve ray, michael lofton from reason and theology. In regard to JW, there is no easy way to distance themselves from them.
Hello, I suggest going to RCIA adult faith formation at your Church. The classes start around labor day at pretty much every Catholic Church. You can learn the faith, meet the Priests and other people. Call your Church to find out more❤
Your dad doesn't believe Jesus is God either. When I had discussions with a JW he'd always spoke of passages in the bible such as Jesus praying to God the Father and aaking "so was Jesus praying to himself?" And he'd point to other passages showing that Jesus and the Father are clearly separate. Make sure that your dad understands that the Trinity teaches that God the Father and Jesus are not the same. They are 2 different persons.
Fun fact: I just had jehovah's witnesses come to my door this morning, and they'll be coming back, and also my usefulcharts chart on the Christian denomination family tree came in the mail, and I found out that SDA and JW both come from Miller, who I learned my freshman year of uni that failed predicting the end of the world. I thought "man, maybe this is a line of argument I can use against the JWs." And then now I just had the thought to find an anti-JW video and THIS VIDEO shows up in my feed. I'll definitely have to take notes and look at your other stuff on the JW's. Thank you and God bless!
The cults are losing followers. catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
After murdering Jesus 31AD and the apostles like Peter whom you crucified upside down in Rome, you proceeded to decimate the world during the Roman Dark Ages which lasted 538 -1798. The SDA and JWs are not guilty of shedding anyone's blood like you. Rev.17:5-6.
I think you're confused. Probably because he didn't study history. But it was the Pagan romance that killed the Jesus, not the Catholic Church that didn't even exist. In fact it was the Pagan Romans who killed Catholics for the first 300 years of Christianity until Constantine legalized Christianity allowed christians, Catholics to worship freely. So it wasn't the Catholic Church who persecuted, it was the Catholic Church who was persecuted. It was all early Catholics who died. There were no other Christians at that early time
@@CatholicTruthOfficial You are right I may have gotten confused. Thx. However: 1. The first church was installed in the garden of Eden was a Seventh -day Sabbath keeping church, the same church in which Jesus worshipped. Gen.2:1-3; Lk.4:16,31. 2. My church for 31 years, Catholic, emerged after 321AD, a cool 4320 yes after the original church. What happened 321 is that Babylonian Paganism of Rome entered the Lord's church after emo Constantine was converted. PAGANISM+SDA= UNIVERSAL (Catholicism). 3. Catholicism is primarily Babylonian Paganism, and that pagan spirit is the culprit in as far as bloodletting is concerned. Not everyone joined the new Christian religion including the Waldenses. These remnants bore the brunt of persecution. During the Dark Ages the Roman church burned almost all the Bibles, the source of spiritual light - hence the Dark Ages. 5. Roman Dark Ages lasted up to 1798 when Napoleon of France invaded Rome and took Pope Pius VI hostage. Protestantism which came through Martin Luther in 1530 suffered the Roman persecution. Many Europeans escaped death by running to the NewLands in America . 7. NB The first church on earth was not what people have been told.
No offense, but there was no church in the garden of eden. The _church_ wasn't started until New Testament times. Before that, it was the synagogue of God. Seventh-Day Adventists didn't exist until the 1800s when Ellen White learned from a Seventh-Day Baptist who proceeded the Adventists. 2. We believe that that church, the Catholic Church was started by Jesus. On the rock of Peter and the authority of the apostles. No other Christian Church goes back 2,000 years to Jesus. When Constantine legalized Christianity and allowed Catholics to worship freely without being persecuted, tortured, dismembered, and killed for 300 years, Christians came out of the tombs, underground, and out of the mines to worship Jesus Christ again. Constantine outlawed most of the Pagan stuff and refuse to let it have anything to do in the Christian church. He promoted christianity, not paganism and he didn't blend the two. Also he had no authority to do anything. He even admitted that he's not a theologian and he left church stuff to the church. So this conspiracy theory without a lick of proof that Constantine Blended paganism and Christianity is just a myth that's been endlessly repeated by Seventh-Day Adventists and baptists. 3. You say that not everyone joined this new religion including the walledensians. The waldensians came 9 centuries later. Protestant history is so limited. They take one group here and one group here and ignore the entirety of history. And in fact, waldensians were catholic. You should probably do some more research on this, actual research from like history books. 4. Another obvious conspiracy theory without any facts. And it all comes from your founder Ellen G white. She said that the Catholic church persecuted, people in the dark ages, and yet Seventh-day Adventist just follow suit rather than actually studying history and rather than following her delusions. She wasn't a historian and didn't know anything. That's why they can't ever mention anything. But what they won't tell you is that the Catholic Church started the university system in the middle ages, made the bible, copy the Bible for over a thousand years, translated it into different languages and protected it from being destroyed by Vikings and barbarians all throughout the middle ages. We also forwarded science for over a thousand years, brought the gospel around the world through missionary work, and created some of the most beautiful art, music, and architecture that the world has ever known. Actually the dark ages are said to last until about 1500s. Is the same problem with Jehovah's witnesses. And mormons. They only study history through their own Church's lens rather than actual history. But we challenge you to do that friend. Martin Luther invented doctrines that were never heard of in the history of the church. So of course he's going to be persecuted in the same way that Paul and Peter persecuted Heretics of the first century church and told Christians not even to talk to them and to shun them because they were teaching a different doctrine. Can you show us one place in the entire New Testament where Jesus tells us to keep the sabbath? Or paul? Or peter? Or anyone? All 10 commandments we are told to keep in the New Testament except the sabbath. Why do you think that is? Because it was part of the law of Moses which was fulfilled in Christ in the New Testament specifically says that we don't hold the Sabbath anymore, or new moons, or any of the other Jewish rituals and feasts. Things like circumcision, passover, and eternal ordinances that God said would last forever but were fulfilled in Christ..
Thx, I am not offended at all and hope you're not too. We are on duty! 1. Granted, education Science and technology is courtesy of Rome, where they say all the roads lead. No question about that, after all she is the end-time superpower (beast). 2. You are right the SDA church started after 1844. The first church in Eden was a Seventh -day Sabbath keeping church. 3. A church is where 2 or 3 congregate to worship in truth. Mt.18:20. It can be a home church but it doesn't have to be a mega organization. Cain and Abel worshipped even by making offerings to the Lord in the church setting. Gen.4:3-4. During Abraham's time there was a priest called Melchizedek to whom Abraham tithed. Gen.14:18. In the wilderness church Aaron and the Levites did the priestly work of the church. It's therefore not true that there was no church until the New Testament times. Before Babylonian captivity there was a temple in Jerusalem in the days of Prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah. After it's destruction around 685 BC, it was rebuild in the time of Nehemiah of the Old Testament times. Ezr.7. 5. Christ could not have started the Catholic church because He used to worship on the Sabbath long before the Catholic church was started. The likes of Peter and Paul were seventh-day Sabbath keepers. Jesus couldn't have changed His church because He is changeless. Heb.13:8. 6. What about Sabbath keeping command in the New Testament? Jesus did command it by example. Lk.4:16,31.There was no need to command it because all the Jews customarily kept it. But He taught them how to keep it even as He declared that He was the Lord of the Sabbath. Mk.2:23-28. The Sabbath is only but the 4th of the TEN moral and everlasting Commandments of God whose transgression is tantamount to SIN. Mt.5:17-18; 1Jn.3:4; Jam.2:9-11. The Sabbaths which were done away with are the 6 Jewish feasts of Lev.23:4 onwards. Col.2:14-17. 7. Constantine outlawed true Bible Sabbath keeping Christianity and promoted false or pagan Sabbath keeping Christianity on the venerable day of the pagan sun god of Babylon. In short, Constantine tried to kill Bible Christianity. Saturday Sabbath was moved to Sunday. The pagan idol of Semiramis holding baby Tammuz (both being the sun gods) subtly became Mary and baby Jesus. The 2nd commandment forbidding idol worship was then removed. But to retain the number at 10 the church Cathecism splits the 10th commandment into two!!!! This is blending the Lord's church with Paganism, something which you can't deny. OVER TO YOU with God's love. We're learning and unlearning, not hardlining. Thx and welcome in the name of the HEAVENLY Father. By the way, concerning the Roman persecution of the Dark Ages, the Pope will soon announce another final Sunday Law (Sunday rest by law ostensibly to mitigate Climate Change phenomenon). Everything is well laid out in Laodato Si and Laodato Deum. Like in the era of Constantine's Sunday law, Bible Sabbath keepers shall be stigmatized and persecuted for refusing to accept Sunday Sacredness. They won't be allowed to buy or sell unless they go Sunday, the venerable day of the sun god instead of the Sabbath of the Lord of the Bible.
As an SDA, four corrections to your video: 1. The SDA church has NEVER made a claim about the date of the second coming of Jesus. Yes, Miller did, and we grew up from it, but not Ellen White nor any other adventist leader fixed a date afterwards. 2. The 144 000. If they are literal or not is up to debate in the SDA, and Ellen G White didn´t believe to be one of them. Our interpretation is that those 144 000 are among the ones that survived the great tribulation. Also, we don´t believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, unlike JWs. 3. We don´t believe that the pope will lead a confederation against the SDA. We believe that the pope will be among the ones in the coalition, and that they will attack every faithful christian, including some catholics. 4. We don´t believe to be the only One True Church. We believe to be a continuation of the protestant reformation, with greater light, but not the only mean of salvation (Unlike JWs and... Catholics?) My own opinion: JWs are like the distant cousin who gives bad name to all your family. Even though we are similar in some things, many main things (like Jesus as God, for instance) are VERY different. Also, none JW would enter here without being disaffiliated. May God bless us all :)
Ok, and where do you believe the Bible came from or can you come to a different (reasonable) answer to the following… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!
@@sia9907 im sorry you read into something that is not there. My "!!!" (3 exclamation marks) are one for each person of the Trinity and have been a signature of mine for many years. But if you want to make it into something else that would be very unfortunate.
@@iguanapoolservice1461 We do believe we are the remnant church, and we do believe that the sabbath day will be something very important during the last days, but we don't believe that every true christian will become an SDA. We are not exclusivists.
Bryan thank you for all your great videos, help a lot!! This two sects are the same ideology from this other one that started in Los Angeles “Santology” 🤦🏻♀️
Well catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Haven't you seen news about all the pedophile priests, sex, money and power. Evil. They are mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Get payback for all the innocent people they have harmed. Including murder
No, it's the other things that make you a cult. Every religion tries to observe the commandments. Ironically, the official position of the 7th day Adventists is pro abortion. That would be breaking the commandment not to murder.
Dear friend Catholics have created there oven Bible with many different things you don’t find in the real Bible KJV they actually banned the KJV as a forbidden book Why ? And through time they have killed more people , maybe it is there way of Love your enemy. The gunpowder plot in England would have killed many more , but it was stopped. The thought of a Pope ( the Holy See) is another thing I have a big problem with . But it is easy to criticize others ET
The KJV is a VERY poor translation of the Holy Scriptures and in common with other protestant Bibles is deficient of7 books in the Old Testament, and another 2 books have chapters missing. It is the second worse of all translations, behind the JWs New World Translation..
@@michaelhaywood8262 words are cheap, many people things it is the true word of God. But you didn’t answer any of the other questions, about all the killing done by the Catholic Church in the past, was that the way they showed Gods love for us ET
Why did the Catholic church ban the KJV Bible? Because it was a bad version just as the Tyndale version was which is the reason the KJV was instituted in the 1st place and the reason Protestants did not use it for very long either. 🤷🏽♂ Now can you answer the following question for me… History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself? Peace!!!
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1st, Tim, 4:1-4, Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in latter times some shall depart from the faith , giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of DEVILS, v, 3, forbidding to marry , (celibacy) and commanding to abstain from some meats,( SDA) these verses shows that the catholic was the mentioned woman from Babylon and those who adopts her doctrines like trinity, were her children, and the SDA, is one of them,according to these scriptures,
I worked with a SDA, very strong convictions. He had a lot to say about the Catholic Church which brought me to Catholic Answers and learning about early church fathers. Here is the biggest issue, Jehovah’s Witnesses and SDA followers have strong convictions, with JWs convictions so strong they will even put their children’s health at risk (dumb). Before confession this week I observed children getting baptized, the adults didn’t even know the proper responses. Most Catholics are not faithful Catholics, they don’t learn the Bible and how that is applied in the Mass and traditions. 😢
Sadly this is true. Since Vatican II religious instruction in the Catholic community is watered down and pathetic. I had 2 great teachers in grammar school who led us through the Bible. I think about them all the time and I’m so grateful for having them.
After Vatican 2, there was a perfect storm that hit the church where 50000 nuns left the church, 10000 priests, the sexual rebellion, anarchy, scientism, the new age movement, and other things. The church went through a horrible time and never really recovered. Live and many of the liberal theologians told normal way people in the Catholic Church just to ignore ithe Pope and the other guys in Rome, and so people started leaving the church and doing their own thing. Consequently, liberals and modernists have passed on their garbage theology and satanic false beliefs down through the seminaries. , Catholic schools, and religious education programs. Our church has been under attack for 50 years. But there is a huge resurgence in revival going on as well now.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial do you recommend attending the pre Vatican II mass? I attended my first Latin Mass recently and while I was impressed with how the dress code was followed and the reverence for the Eucharist, it also gave me a greater appreciation for my Pastor’s gospel message during his homily.
@@sia9907Yes, but truth matters and why would we want to deny someone the fullness of truth? There is so much depth and beauty in Catholicism that Protestants miss.
Ex SDA here. I find information provided in this video superficial and inaccurate. From an average Catholic perspective the two may seem very similar or nearly identical, but the real life differences are far from that. The SDAs and JWs do have common roots in the Millerite movement and they both believe in their exclusivity of holding the complete truth. However, the SDAa are much more open to ecumenism and generally speaking they maintain good relationships with other Protestant churches. I live in Czechia, where Baptists are not so well known like in the US. I recently heard a Baptist pastor explaining to the group of visitors in a Baptist church, that Baptists are close to other Protestant churches in Czechia, and among others he named the SDAs. He even recommended people to go there, because the SDA house of prayer happened to be nearby. In my city a mainline Protestant church once had their gatherings in the SDA church building, because their own was under construction. The local SDA community helped them, because Adventists worship on Saturday while the Protestant church had services on Sundays and their beliefs were quite close. In my country, an SDA scholar is the head of the Bible research department at a non Adventists faculty of theology (Faculty of Hussite Theology). I could give you more examples like that. These things would be unthinkable with the JWs, because they strictly distance themselves from any contacts to all other churches. The JWs have their own translation of the Bible, while the SDAs use other commonly available translations, that are used by other Christians. Also, there is a lot more freedom of thinking and openess to criticisim in the SDA church. The SDAs didn't predict the end of the world multiple times. You got this wrong. The SDAs originate from one Millerite group, which adopted spiritual interpretation of the year 1844, but after that never atempted to make more predictions. The SDA church was founded in 1863. The JWs however, made predictions for the years 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975. The JWs don't have the same doctrine about the heavely sanctuary or the investigative judgement like the SDAs. There is some similarity because both groups adopted some sort of spiritual interpretation of the 1844 and 1914 failed predictions, but they definitely do not use the same words. Today, the SDAa don't put much stress on the 2nd comming of Jesus compared to the first years of their existence. They seem to focus more on other thing such as healthy life style. Don't get me wrong, the eschatology is still present in the SDA church today, but not very strongly (at least in my country). The SDAs don't believe in the literal meaning of the number 144000 in the Book of Revelation. The deal with this book a lot and they draw serious conclusions from it, but they basically consider Revelation to be a book of symbols. Last but by no means least: You mentioned that both JWs and SDAs believe they are the only Church with complete truth or revelation. Also, you included information on the importance of private revelations claimed by E. G. White and Ch. T. Russel. You aso said: "They [all cults] hyperfocus on one thing that makes them correct and everyone else is wrong." This is spot on and I completely agree with you. But the very same thing can be said about the Roman Catholic church. The RCC believes they are the only true church giving some validity to Orthodox churches and very little to Protestants. The SDAs base their exclusivity mainly on Sabbath and the complete biblical set of Ten Commandments, refraining from unclean meats and alcohol (Human body is the temple of the Holy Spirit). The RCC stresses the importance of the Eucharist and other sacraments, Papacy and holy tradition. The list is not complete, but I won't go into details here. The SDAs believe in the Divine revelation of Ellen White, while in the RCC there are numerous modern day revelations of the Virgin Mary. Not all of them are officially recognized by the RCC, but both recognized and unrecognized revelations have a huge influence on the Catholic believers. The (hyper)focuses and revelations are clearly different, but the principle in JW, SDA and RC doctrines and religious practice is similar if not the same. I hope that comment will help both the author and the viewers.
I am a Seventh-Day Adventist. To be honest, as I walk on this path, I observe many adventists subscribe to E.G White more than the Bible (hence, the SDA reform) when my church claim to to be Sola Scriptura, which mean Bible alone. Sometimes it makes me sad because when I need to defend that we only use the Bible for our beliefs, White comes in on the topic. Nonetheless, White said that if her writings contradict the truths of the Bible, we follow the Bible. So that's what I am doing. Her writings are great but the Bible must be the priority. I think SDA is the most accurate with the Bible, you cannot find fault in their beliefs because it's always from the Bible, "Thus, saith the Lord." But when the Bible is overshadowed by some other writings, that's where problem arises, atleast for me.
Thank you for the comment. It is true that some of the Adventists go by the bible, although, as you've said, many go by Mrs white. With that being said, all Protestant denominations, of which The Seventh-Day Adventists are only one of thousands, they all go by the Bible alone. They all go solely by the Bible. SDAs are not the only ones. Lutheran's we're the ones who invented the Bible alone. And also calvinists, presbyterians, and all the rest go by the bible. The Fatal flaw in all of them though is that there was no Bible for the first 400 years of christianity. So Christians went by the church Christ established and not the bible. It was the church that made the Bible in the first place. Second, there's no place in scripture where it says to only go by the Bible. Jesus also says to listen to the church. And he said if we don't listen to the authority of the church then we reject him and God who sent him. Just some things to think about. God bless.
can you give some examples where the Bible is overshadowed by some of Ellen G. Whites writings? Or things that she has a false view on? I want to look it up and study it for myself.
Wow, coming from the catholic beliefs with its known pagan history, practices with idols, wars, and horrendous cruelty beyond belief and the worship of images, wealth beyond the kings, and here you sit in the seat of judgement without a wince or a cringe while condemning mothers for hoping and teaching it is true. Now that's just stunningly impressive, hence why your religion is steeped in politics as Gods means of communication and leadership to the masses which will as you suggest, will never end.. Dear God, you mean that what you pray for in the lords pray... will never be a reality and that is your hope condemned for ever with human rulers liars, thieves and criminals and war mongers... Taxi...!
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Do you have specifics on The Church of Christ that you mentioned? I discovered their teachers think we are going to Hell but not necessarily our friends in the pews.
@@CatholicTruthOfficialhave you done research on the Local Church of Witness Lee. Have their own “Recovery” version Bible . Are extremely anti Catholic and are growing super fast in college campuses as they pretend to be benign Christian Clubs. I am losing my daughter to their indoctrination and it has been a spiritual battle since Oct ‘22. 😢
What I don’t understand people like you brother always talk about what Adventist say but never say what you say The fact is that JHW have more with Protestantism than SDA Tell me what you believe in, catholic worship idols that’s Cultic
We showed in the video that Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses have so many core doctrines in common because they came out of the same failed man-made sect. You didn't prove that wrong. You didn't give any evidence. And Catholics don't worship idols. That just shows you haven't studied anything for yourself.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial my brother we only typing on this, we should have a verbal conversation and you will see how much I know and how much I studied A lot of the evangelical churches believe that Catholics are not Christians, VODDIE BAUCHUM JOHN MacARTHUR GINO JENNINGS just to name a few and even former Adventist themselves Like I said in my last comment everything that Adventist teaches I can prove it in the Bible can you say the same
do not know what he was smoking, but this is not something from the Bible and definitely not taught in the SDA church. Some weirdos can be found in every denominations, when you look long enough. It is not truthful to base your whole worldview on 1 bad encounter. Imagine someone would to the same thing about your church? would this be fair?
I've been a member of the Seventh Day Adventist church 55 years. A Jehovah's witness came to my house and we studied together for 10 years. I also know something about catholic beliefs. I can say that the Jehovah's Witness doctrine is a whole lot farther off from my beliefs than even catholic teachings. I don't see how you can say we are the same. We are definitely not.
Definitely not. We showed those core doctrinal beliefs between the 2 religions period you can't find that with the Catholic Church and Jehovah's witnesses.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial if you want to convince somebody please stay with the truth, instead of making connections where none are. The Adventist church has as much in common with Jehovas Witnesses, as Catholic church has in common with Jehovas Witnesses. -> not very much.
They are not the same although they take many of their teachings from the 7th Day Adventist and the 2nd Day Adventist Early in its development, the Bible Student movement founded by Charles Taze Russell had close connections with the Millerite movement and stalwarts of the Adventist faith, including George Storrs and Joseph Seiss. Although both Jehovah's Witnesses and the Bible Students do not identify as part of the Millerite Adventist movement (or other denominations, in general), some theologians categorize these groups and related sects as Millerite Adventist because of their teachings regarding an imminent Second Coming and their use of specific dates.
How can a persecuting power debunk a prophetic power? to the person presenting this video, answer this one question. Who persecute the Saints of God from A.D 538 to A.D 1798 ? for time and times and the dividing of time. Danie 7 :25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time". A day for a year in Bible prophecy. (Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:4-6). Revelation 11:2 "But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 30 days in a month 42X30 using the day year principle. which power rule and persecute decenters for 1260 years"? The lord knows this time was very important he gave it 6 times in the bible. Revelation 11:2. Revelation 13:5, Revelation 11:3-4, Revelation 12:6, Revelation 12:14 and Daniel 7:25 (time, times and half a time. = 3.5 years) only one power fit this. The Papacy>
Does the idea that the 'dead saints' can't hear our prayers somehow come from the idea of soulsleep? I have always been curious about it because it's so widespread among Protestants but I don't understand how they arrived at it. I believe the Bible is very clear about the fact that the saints in heaven are very much alive and aware of what is going on on Earth.
This is very good question! If dead saints can’t hear our prayers than many doctrines in Roman Catholic Church are falsified. So it’s necessary to defend such belief. But what is really the teaching of the Bible? Or why some christian theologians believe different? I prefer you to read “old” book (1958) from Oscar Cullmann, the well-known New Testament scholar, who wrote a book entitled “Immortality of the Soul Or Resurrection of the Dead? The Witness of the New Testament”.
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Playing devil's advocate: why would God let most of humanity in the dark and only share his revelation with a tiny group of people in the Levant for thousands of years?
Internet archives “ The Sabbath Question From The Roman Catholic Standpoint as stated by the “Catholic Mirror “ 1894 Was Jonah a false prophet? He prophesied the doom of two cities and yet it didn’t happen. I find it interesting that Rome admits the S.D. Adventist have the truth. Not the GC SDA’s today. But what was the true church who now has become corrupt by accepting Rome’s Trinity doctrine and have become intoxicated by it to drunk to wake up.
When dealing with the Churches of Christ, which did reintroduce me to baptism as a sacrament, I tried to fund where there was a great sliding away from original Church beliefs and I couldn't find it. It did lead me to consider that one should be able to trace a line of people and beliefs back to the Apostles. Cults and so on spring up that do not have this.
Its interesting that the Churches of Christ come from the restoration movement but are so different from SDAs and JWs. They do all share a lot of anti-catholocism but the CoC is actually pretty close to Catholic beliefs on a lot of things.
@davidf5089 Churches of Christ were more of a reaction to normal Protestantism. Due to this, they likely end up more aligned with the Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches. Actually more Orthodox than Catholic. I would argue that anything Amerucan Restoration at its core is NOT. Protestant is historically Reformed plus Ababaptist.
And another thing. Gov Body removed a member, YET they preach to their crew that Gov Body members are approached and appointed by an angel of God and are chosen of the 144 thousand. Then, by this claim, how can they remove a member? BTW Hebrew does not have vowels so the name Jehovah is also made up by them. What is soul sleep. First I have heard of this
In Latin America several "evangelical" denominations believe in soul sleep. Here most early protestant preachers were Baptists but with time Adventists came and intermingled with latino protestants and their doctrine became a melange.
Independent Baptist follow the original Scriptures from the Hebrew Masoretic Text and the Greek Textus Receptus. Facts from the book defending the KJV of 1611. catholicism started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Real Bible believers follow the Apostle Paul because he was chosen by Jesus Christ as the Apostle to the gentiles. I follow Paul because he follows Jesus Christ. Our Lord and Saviour.
I know this isn't related to the video but you should get Allen Parr on for a Protestant vs catholic debate. He goes as far as to say catholics aren't saved.
Founder of JWs CT Russell was an atheist. He couldn't accept an all loving God could create a dispensation where 95 percent of human souls are punished eternally born in ignorance. Russell walked into an Adventist meeting and his faith was restored. The dead souls sleep unconscious in the grave not tortured forever.
late me ask 1 question jhon Calvin the Protestantism most theologyical scholars what is the point of there false teaching and most not list Arian the great heretic in history he is knowledgeable so what is the point for theological training that is pointless 🤔!!!???
You don't quote the Bible why? JW don't observe the sabbath Gen. 1 JW don't believe Lev. 11. JW. Don't believe Jesus Christ is interceding for us Heb. 1 JW don't believe the spirit of prophecy Rev.19:10 and so on.
Thank you for the comment. Why would we quote the Bible when we are just doing a comparison between the 2 religions? We mentioned there were some differences of course, what the similarities, distinct uncanny similarities are very interesting.
It should base on what the two churches believe. You cannot talk about what two different religions believe without justifying what they believe with Bible quotations as a Bible believing Christian.
We don't need to say whether their beliefs are justifiable or not according to the Bible, that's not the scope of this video. We were just comparing and contrasting their beliefs.
Honestly I did not know they both come from the same person. I knew they were originated from Protestantism but not THAT closely related. Sounds kinda like they being 2 sisters.
I’ve been thinking about writing a book onSDA have no idea where to start. I grew up and was raised in the SDA Church I feel like many more videos need to be made to help these people see the light. It is easy for them to dismiss it since it’s just coming from the “antichrist”
I grew up and was raised in Roman Catholic Church and now I’m member of SDA Church. ☺️ And I know why am I here where I am. ☺️ And my son and nephew will be baptised next friday. 🙏🙈😇
Jtr, We have made several videos on the 7th day. Adventists, including interviewing some former members who are now Catholic, make sure to check out those videos in our description section below.
@@IzidorPokrivacweak Catholics left for Sects. Strong Christians become Catholics because in their quest for truth- it is just undeniably that the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church ⛪️ is the only church founded by Jesus Christ, our almighty God Himself. 🙏.✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿
(I'm a seventh day)we are not the same in doctrine we believe in the trinity the father, the son, and the holy spirit they don't (jw). from what i heard in this video i understand that as a catholic you have to defend your belife.1 peter 3:15 . prophecy is something that we must study and not just neglect . Jesus himself was a prophecy(issah 53). A lot of your comparison we not on point like the evangelism that's something that we all need to do.
@@CatholicTruthOfficialdont agree with that we have diffrent doctrine also you mention that alot of the first adventist didnt have no theology studys in the bible we see peter was a simple fishermen
Your lack of Bible knowledge lack of knowledge about Adventists is rather astounding and very sad to see. Please do much better research and Bible study.
You didn't even watch the video, so why would we take anything you said seriously? It's typical of 7th day adventists just to insult people rather than offer actual facts or even name one thing we said that was incorrect.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I would not have commented if I had not watched the video. There is not space here to show all the places you are incorrect here, but here's a few things. The Adventist church has not predicted the date of the second coming. You are way off in what you think we believe on the 144,000, and Ellen White did not believe that she was for sure one of the 144,000. We believe the 144,000 (either literal or symbolic)(I believe it is symbolic) are the group of God's people who are alive to see the second coming, and will be translated to Heaven without tasting death. This is what the Bible teaches (Rev. 6:17; 7:1-4; 15:2,3). Ellen White never taught, nor do we believe, that we need her writings to properly understand the Bible. Much of your video is spent in just making silly comparisons. Are you aware that John the Baptist, Jesus, and the 12 disciples were also not trained theologians or pastors?? Of course we are to go door to door sharing the gospel, because that is what Jesus taught us to do! Are you aware that there are many common beliefs between Adventists and other denominations, including Catholics? So does that make them the same denomination?? You ridicule us for always preaching that Jesus is coming soon?? Please read Rev. 22:12,20. I would encourage you to spend much more time in earnest Bible study, instead of spending your time ignorantly bashing what you know very little about. All of the reformers knew that the papacy was the antichrist, and for good reason, because the Bible plainly reveals this to be true. A careful study also reveals how the Catholic church and it's pagan doctrines rose out of the ancientcity of Pergamum, which if where the Bablonian priests fled to and continued their religion in. These pagan doctrines were then adopted by the Catholic church. This is why the Catholic church is full of sun and moon worship symbols, and also many other pagan gods and symbols. I pray that somewhere within you, you want to know truth and that you will study these things out and learn the truth from the Bible alone.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you forgot to mention that Catholic Church changed Gods law. This is a terrible offence to God and will be severely punished for doing so 🙏
@@CatholicTruthOfficial by the way your wrong about sda They keep the commandments of God and follow the Bible that is why you don’t like them. Jehovah witness have their own bible and don’t believe Jesus is God so they are totally different and can’t be compared at all so learn what a false prophet is before you accuse them to be false teachers. You have no fact to accuse Sda to be teaching contrary to the Bible but Catholic Church admit they changed Gods law
@@CatholicTruthOfficial friends don’t fear Sda but fear the mark of the Beast which will impose a mark to whoever worship the Beast and receive the 7 last plagues and who is the Beast that will impose this worship? Study revelation 13 and Daniel 7 to know who that beast is so you don’t receive this mark 🙏
No, for most of the Seventh-day Adventist history, which is really short compared to most churches, they have not followed God's commandments. In fact the official position of the SDa "church" was pro-abortion. They were staunchly for abortion up until very very recently. And that breaks the commandant of murder and they had no problem doing so. So it's hypocritical that they claimed others break the Commandments while they freely do so themselves. Also it was Christians in the New Testament who worshiped on the Lord's day, and all Christians down through history.
So you would rather be in a religion that rejects the Trinity and doesn't even know Who God is? That says a lot. At least the papacy is in the Bible, the Jehovah's witness believes are not.
They are rich from just what you described. Started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. History of murder and deception. Pedophile priests,sex, money and power
Hi some of your point with Exaggeration 🤔 mistake point 1, the end time theology shearing is william miller that is true but SDA are not the same at investigation judgment (IJ) with JW it's only teachs the SDA Church your mistake point 2, christ coming of eventually is again is different JW Say jesus was come with no one seen him 19th century i'm sure the date and year and SDAs teach that christ will come and every person sees him when he comes Mistake 3,even the soul sleep and Michael theology is some of are different for ex.soul sleep SDA teachs when a person die his unconsciously sleep not perish but the JW says its perish and recreated and even Michael the archangel JW used for creation SDAs are not there definition is different Mistake point 4,i can say on SDAs states you say they are not skilled with theological way or interpretation of bible and exegesis and mainly history's fact, so on that don't affected the theology of SDA IJ,soul sleep,prophecy interpretation SDAs the theological exegesis are more depending history and fact in other denominations like(east Orthodox ,Catholics,more Protestant ism are not constant agreement in prophecy history interpretation and your criticism is more attacking the church
SDA’s do not do door to door evangelism. It’s a lot more lax. The only thing is keeping the sabbath is literally the 4th commandment. The cognitive dissonance that allows believe to ignore the 4th commandment is comical.
The doctrines on hell and soul sleep is early christian and is true biblically. I am Catholic but I support no hell and soul sleep and I am willing to point of verses
Those words have nothing to do with soul sleep. You need to learn the meaning of them, especially if you claim to be Catholic friend. They have to do with the waiting place in the Old Testament and where we get the English word today, Purgatory.
You make me laugh. :D If you really want to “teach” people about what someone believes and what not, I suggest you to invite person who is representative of some belief. I was raised as Roman Catholic believer and now I’m member of Seventh Day Adventist Church. And I know what I believe and what I don’t believe. ☺️ First you said that I believe in restored Church of Christ and that SDA Church is original Church. I don’t. ☺️ I know that you believe that you’re in original Church of Christ (whatever that means). Don’t you? 😅 And you believe that you’re right, don’t you? 🤭 You described yourself. Doesn’t Roman Catholic Church believes in visions and divinely inspirations of some people (Anne Catherine Emmerich, Marie Martha Chambon, Bernadette Soubirous… etc. etc.)?☺️🤭You know that you believe that. You described yourself. But I know, you’re right and you’re member of original Church and I’m cultist. SDA Church never predicted the date of Christ return. And I don’t believe in date predictions. Jesus said that no one knows the hour and the day. But I firmly believe that Jesus will come second time as He promised! And you want to make your listeners to believe that JW and Adventists are the same. 😅😂 I had many conversations with JW and we don’t agree with many fundamental beliefs of Christianity. Jesus is God in flesh! Eternal Son of God. That is clear teaching of the Bible and Jesus alone! You can make apparent similarities of anything to anything. ☺️ I just read about similarities of communism and Catholicism in the Middle Ages. Are they really the same because of some similarities? You know the answer. ☺️ But I know, you’re right and I’m cultist. Do you think that apostoles and Jesus were obsessed with end times, because Jesus said 2000 years ago, that He will come soon? Primary message is NOT end time! Primary message is JESUS alone! He is The Message, the way and the truth and the life! You said that I believe in literal 144000 people, a governing body in heaven. I don’t. ☺️ Please invite someone representative to say to you what someone really believes! And you accused others to missrepresent Roman Catholic beliefs? You described yourself, because you missrepresent others beliefs. 😒 Are you really honest? Or do you have some others motives? God knows your heart. I hope that you don’t believe that because Jesus and his followers worship on Sabbath/Saturday that they were obsessed. 🤭 I don’t believe that you’re obsessed because you worship mainly and primarily on Sunday. ☺️ Roman Catholic Church is without evangelization literature? 🤭 You’re really funny. But I know, you’re right and I’m cultist. But I understand your “hatred”. Because I also “hated” all other people that weren’t Roman Catholics. I understand you. I know that you don’t even notice it. I also didn’t. But God’s Spirit can change your heart. I will pray for you. 🙏
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, you left the true church of Jesus Christ for a sect that started in the 1800s like mormons and Jehovah's witnesses. Sad, they come on, most catholics who left the Faith had no idea what they believed before they left. Also, during that whole entire diatribe, you didn't point out anything that was wrong in the video. We showed how the 2 religions are very similar and have unique beliefs that very few others do. So there's no problem with the video. Unfortunately, we would never invite a 7th day Adventist on, because they are completely irrational. Only once forever on our pages are yelling at us, screaming at us, incapable of dialogue, condemning us to hell, calling us the anti Christ, and all of the rest of their anti-Catholic nutcase jargon. The difference between visions and the Catholic Church and visions in those 2 religions are that the visions are had. Primarily by the founder, nobody in the Catholic Church claimed to have 12000 visions and traveled to other planets to meet old prophets like Ellen White did. To any rational person outside the Adventists, it's just ludicrous. At the mention, the adventists are probably of the worst religions to get factual correct, which is why we made two whole videos about their errors regarding Catholicism.
You keep saying that you don't believe this or that. But does not matter. What matter is what your religion teaches. For example, can you categorically say that the '144000 governing body' is not your church's teaching? You practice a 'cafeteria' religion if you don't believe some of your church's teachings because you pick what you only want to believe.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial. I know that you believe that you’re the only true church. Such exclusivism is typical for many in the world. It’s not necessary bad as such, but when you believe that your organisation is the only and necessary for salvation that is very dangerous and leads to fanatism and to other dangerous thoughts and actions. I know why I left Roman Catholicism and why I joined the SDA Church. You wrote that I didn’t point out anything that was wrong. 😅 I will not repeat myself. Obviously you didn’t read my comment. For you, I’m sectarian and completely irrational, incapable of dialogue, but Christ call me friend and brother. Christ gives me human value. I was and I will pray for you. 🙏
Yes, we do believe the Catholic church is true. Otherwise, why would we be part of it? You make it sound like many churches can be correct. But Jesus only started one church, not many. He has but one body. And only one goes back 2000 years; the Catholic Church. You left the one true church that Jesus started for one that was started in the 1800s by a woman alongside hundreds and hundreds of others that were started in the 1800s but don't have the beliefs of the early Christians. You really think Jesus would wait 1800 years to make everything correct. That's the same argument Jehovahs witness make. Wow, a surprise haha. And Mormons make and Christian Scientists and the Church if Christ, etc. You are a sectarian, but we still love you. SDAs are one of but thousands of churches that emerged in the 1800s. If that's not sectarianism, I don't know what is.
My aunt has been in the JW cult for years and they bleed her dry of money, time, and thought. Please pray for her because she was a devout Catholic for a long time and I don't want to see her stay with those liars for the rest of her life.
I did not know J.W demand money or have fee's or even a collection box passed around, I thought it was all 'voluntary given' as one sees fit, or able discreetly...? I always saw that practice as a catholic duty you know, the bag is passed along the rows required by the richest religion on the planet?
@@matrix5062they used to be voluntary donations but the last decade they r really putting emphasis on giving 💰 more and more….. I can see the changes and recently left. That seriously when I first really understood I’m in a CULT try to leave peacefully…. You can’t and u loose ur loved ones. Our daughter no longer speaks to us…. Very sad indeed how powerful the brainwashing is and they justify it from the Bible!
Where does the Bible say that? It doesn't, it says listen to the church. Let's have the reason of why there are so many religions out there that all disagree and contradict each other.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Why are you so aggressive? What are you talking about? It says all though the bible to feed off the Word of God and keep you eyes on our Lord Jesus brother. The whole Bible points to Jesus! God bless you.
We agree with you that it says that we should feed off the word of God. However, your error resides. In the fact that it doesn't only say that. Jesus also said listen to the apostles and their authority. Are you ignoring all of those Bible verses that I gave you? :)
Yeah how can it be that Gods name is jehovah,when the holy writings came from the hebrews,Israelites or Jews who are the same people whom God had chosen from all other nationalities and communicated to them of all the Holy writings that they had from God.And never ever read one part of the scriptures stating that God said to Moses that my name is jehovah,instead he said tell my people I Am That I Am!!!!!! Yeah Alleluia Hosanna In Excelsis Deo
Use to be a jw now catholic actually my whole family was a catholic first my mom left the catholic church first because she didn't know the faith as well as she should have otherwise she wouldn't have left for a cult also jws are the split off group from charles Russell's Bible students jws split in 1931 joseph Rutherford took the name jehovahs witnesses at that time you are spot on as for there beliefs keep up the work you do
I have family that have left their Catholic Faith and are now Jehova Witnesses, SDAs and other similar cults. It breaks my heart and pisses me off at the same time. They are very intelligent, well-read, etc but believe all this kookines.
But did they know their Catholic faith before they left? It would be hard to believe that people could leave their faith that they knew. Well, for a kookie religion that doesn't make sense. Although Jehovah's witnesses are pretty good at explaining it in a way that seems to make sense.
@@marcihf217. Don’t be sad. 🙈 I was also raised in Roman Catholic Church and Roman Catholic family. I wanted to be priest. I knew my Roman Catholic beliefs. I had many conversations with other priests. Now I’m also member of SDA Church. I still believe in the same God and Jesus as before. 🙈 At first it was shock for my family and community. I was labeled Satanist. But I know in my heart that I followed Jesus that lead me to where I’m now. Today we are in good relations with my family and other people with Roman Catholic background. We appreciate each other. I know that the only Saviour is Jesus! Not institution or Church. Keep faith in Jesus. And yes, you can be also educated former Roman Catholic and now SDA. 🙈 Pray for them and yourself and don’t be affraid that they’re lost. 😇
March, Keep praying for them hard. And keep avangelizing them in love. As you know, catholics who leave the Faith didn't actually understand their Faith before they left, and so the first religion that came to their door wasn't easy sell. That's why we must challenge them. I almost lost my Faith once 2 to the Jehovah's witnesses but unlike most people who just run away quickly, I did a very deep study into the Catholic Faith and also the other religions as well just to make sure and I realized that the Catholic Church was the only true church of Jesus and the only one that goes back 2000 years.
I'm from Slovakia, a predominantly Catholic country; I encountered the JW's when I was like 6 years old, a classmate of mine in preschool was telling me about the end of the world that is coming and only those who know the Bible will be saved. I remember I was thinking I'm safe because I had my children's Bible and have read all of it 😅. My mum explained to me about the JW's, this girl's mum was apparently one. They were actually viewed as a dangerous cult in my country back then. It was at the time of the fall of the Communist regime. The girl's mum unfortunately died by falling out of her window, we all thought it was connected.
Currently the JW's are one of the registered religions in my country, meaning they get government subsidy for the ministers' pay. However they are still viewed as a cult, mostly because of their beliefs about blood transfusions etc.
The SDA also operate here but they're an even smaller minority. They have a better reputation because some of their members are big at promoting healthy lifestyle and vegetarian cuisine. One of the biggest and oldest producers of vegetarian food esp. made from soy in the country was actually founded by a SDA.
We also have a very small minority of evangelical churches and they are usually viewed as cults too, esp the charismatic and prosperity gospel ones.
A very different situation than in the US I suppose 😅
good to hear that.
Thanks for that perspective, eye opening.
SDA and JW both use cult-like tactics on their members, like instilling fear, creating an elitist attitude, and operating in a secretive fashion. Both of these groups will hound you if you try and leave because they believe you are making a grave mistake. SDA are taught to fear Catholics and the Catholic Church. They also target predominantly Catholic countries and believe abortion is a valid choice.
@@barborazajacova7633 can I asked you one thing what is the first day of the week...we know one week got 7 day..and what is the first day Mon, Tues, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday which one...?
I am glad that I was raised Catholic. It is a lot less confusing.
I was raised protestant (my parents still are) and converted to catholicism though Bryan's videos. Things make way more sense now. No more mental gymnastics to fit what I believe or what different protestants teach but now just what the church teaches and has taught for 2000 years
We ALL need to follow JESUS. BC WHY do Catholics call priests FATHER? with all due? JC LITERALLY said call no man "father" BUT HEAVENLY father v IVE LEARNED JC is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS the answer. His words are the ISH.
@@ski6703 Do you call your dad "father" or your teacher "teacher" because under the logic of "call no man father" you can't call your biological father "father". Bryan has a video addressing this very thing. Look at the entire section and put it in context. Jesus is speaking of the Pharisees. Remember Jesus also said "honor your father and mother."
I used to say the same thing till a looked at in full context.
@ski6703 Jesus also literally told you to cut off your hand and cut out your eye if it causes you to sin, and he also said you literally must hate your family in order to be his disciple. Jesus often spoke in what's known as Rabinic Hyperbole, where he uses extreme statements just to make a point even though they are not literal statements. Same thing with calling no man, father. And we know this because men are called father from the beginning of the New Testament until the end, both in a physical way and a spiritual way. 1 cor. 4:15
@@CatholicTruthOfficial That is the advantage of coming from an Apostolic Church - you have information like you just posted passed down from elders to clarify your understanding of the Bible.
I was sda, glad iam home now with my family. Never regretted making that decision. Humble catholic rite here❤❤
Welcome home!!! I was SDA for 3 years and then I found the Catholic Church.
@robertstephenson6806yes,U right❤
Iniserat and Hanna welcome home! Praise be to God! Thank you, Jesus, for your grace and mercy.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Amen brother, thanks for all you do!
@CatholicTruthOfficial Hi @Bryan there's a brother called Myles Christian YT channel @Answering Adventism he's very knowledgeable well studied and very cordial he's an X SDA has dedicated his ministry to helping SDA get out. Would be very edifying and helpful if you two would interact and talk about SDA. Thank you and GOD Bless your family and you. Robert from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
So sad I was caught up in this evil cult of J. W. For 19yrs. Worst mistake of my life. Did me so much family damage. Blessed to be back in the Catholic Church almost 9yrs ago. Thanks to E.W.T.N The Journey Home started me back on my journey back to the Catholic Church. Thank you Brian. I enjoy your wonderful knowledge as well .God bless you.
Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties of the cult. That's why we make these videos because many people just don't know. We are glad that you got out, though and have been home for 9 years. Praise God!!🙌
catholicism is far worse mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
Thank you Brian. God bless you.
@@georgeo785 this is a lie.
As exJw this is really fun to learn new thing about my ex religion. I knew there was connection, but I never knew more about it, when I was there. After I left I become an atheist and many JWs that I know are like me or dont want to join to any other religion. I ponder is it also like this with ex member of SDA or if theyll leave they rather like to go to join to other religion.
Hope you come back. My dad left and didn’t go to other churches and went back after 30 years of devoting himself to his career only to be betrayed in the end and lost his job. Now he’s been back for 10 years and I never seen him happier. I was never baptized but I’m a believer. My goal this year is to be baptized as a JW. Hope you come back. There’s a reason a lot of JW don’t go no where else. We’re pretty unique and I’m not ashamed of it. People say I’m in a cult but that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it.
My dad and his wife are Jehovah’s witnesses. Recently my dad and I have been arguing about the Trinity. I’m a Protestant. But I’m interested in Catholicism, but that neither here nor there. I know my dad is worried about my salvation, he only wants what he believes is best for me, and I’m glad he cares enough to argue with me. I believe the trinity is correct, but honestly I don’t know enough to defend it and it is complex. I also believe that it’s not really my place to argue with my dad about his faith. But I want to know the truth for myself. I’ve gone to Catholic Answers, but again it’s a complex topic. Do you guys have any advice here?
G’day Preston, I am an Australian cradle Catholic. The below might assist you.
God is Love
To understand YHWH in a nut shell is to understand LOVE. Jesus in the Gospels teaches us to love one another as He loves us, to pray for our enemies and those who persecute us.
YHWH does not need us to love Him. He was perfectly happy with His own company before Creation. Yet, He created us to love, worship and glorify Him.
If YHWH is LOVE, who did He love before He created the angels or man? He loved YHWH Himself: the lover, God the Father; the beloved, God the Son. The love between the Father and the Son is so intimate, powerful, unlimited and eternal - the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Ghost.
Marriage is modelled on the Blessed Trinity: the bride and groom consummate their love, generating a third person, where the life of the Holy Ghost is planted in their child. This is an imperfect analogy, as the Holy Ghost eternally proceeds from the Father and the Son, just as the Son is eternally begotten by the Father.
What then (in this world) IS “love”?
LOVE is a conscious decision and action by anyone wanting happiness for another, to the point of dying for that person. A fruit of me loving my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, is me loving you, my neighbour (even though you might despise and hate me) praying for you, wanting the best for you and praying that you will come to heaven with me.
The most profound question that can be asked is: “why did YHWH make us?” The only explanation that makes any sense to me is that it is YHWH’s nature to share His love. Any human relationship gets to a point, where one says to the other, “show me, you love me.”
The Son vowed to the Father, “I will demonstrate My Love for You, by creating the physical universe and becoming a man. By my example, man will love and glorify You for eternity. I will demonstrate Our Love with man, to the point that I will allow man to kill me in the most painful, humiliating way possible. I will demonstrate total love of You, to man and how to glorify You, My Father.
Creation, included the heavenly beings, we know of as angels. God created angels with free will, to worship and glorify Him and to carry messages to man.
Before the creation of time and matter, the Blessed Trinity revealed to the angels the plan between the Father and the Son. Lucifer, proud, powerful and beautiful, refused to bow to the Son, as the God-man, who’s dignity was below the angels. One third of the angels sided with Lucifer, who, with Lucifer, were expelled by the archangel Michael from God’s presence.
Prior to creating the angels, eternal YHWH, who exists outside of creation, time and matter, knew (not predestined) and permitted history to unfold.
In the Garden, YHWH or more specifically God the Son, communed with Adam and Eve, among the animals, birds and insects, giving them everything they needed for happiness and to freely know, worship and glorify Him. Lucifer, now satan (the adversary), who hated God, His creation, His flesh in the Son, took the physical form of a familiar animal from the Garden. He tricked Adam and Eve through their pride into eating of the Tree of Knowledge. Their eyes were instantly opened, so that they could know good and evil.
YHWH did not kill Adam and Eve for their sin and rebellion. Instead, in love, He promised them a Redeemer, from their own flesh, who will crush the head of the serpent.
The Son, the New Adam, demonstrating His love for the Father, freely took the place of Adam and accepted the penalty of Adam’s and all man’s sin on the cross. Jesus’s covenantal sacrifice restored the Original Innocence of man, lost by Adam.
Adam’s Original Sin closed the gates of heaven to man. The New Adam’s love sacrifice, life, death and resurrection destroyed death and opened heaven’s gates, enabling man to once again have a loving relationship with YHWH.
Have you read the sections in the catechism on the subject? They are at paragraph 249-267, but really the whole section called Profession of Faith deals with the Trinity in places. The Trinity is the God I know, the God I pray to and worship. But explaining it to a friend in the kind of specificity and completeness your question deserves is beyond me. God bless! ❤️🙏♥️
I would recommend looking up @Jimmy Akin, Dr. Brant Pitre on the Trinity
Presto - Good job, defending your face period keep it up. keep praying for your dad and loving him.
It's easier to prove the divinity of Christ as a first step to explaining the Trinity, so that's usually where I start, and we have a whole article on that if it helps. catholictruth.org/jesus-is-god/
We also have an article on mormon to deny the Trinity and a lot of the misconceptions that dem and Jehovah's witnesses bring up. catholictruth.org/answering-a-mormon-on-the-trinity/
Your dad doesn't believe Jesus is God either. When I had discussions with a JW he'd always spoke of passages in the bible such as Jesus praying to God the Father and aaking "so was Jesus praying to himself?" And he'd point to other passages showing that Jesus and the Father are clearly separate. Make sure that your dad understands that the Trinity teaches that God the Father and Jesus are not the same. They are 2 different persons.
I learned so much that I didn't know, Bryan. And I've been studying both sects for awhile as I have friends in both. Thank you & God bless you! ☺️🙏
You're very welcome!
catholicism is far worse
Just brilliant discussion keep it coming
I am Catholic the only one of my siblings who attends church now, I have been helping out in my local church since Easter 2000. I have a neighbour who is a jehovah witness and married to a church of ireland man. I knew about her religion and growing up from when I moved to a town to when we moved to the countryside we had one or two jehovah witness members visit trying to convert us. It lasted a few months until my mom got bored and invite them in telling them she was not moving religions but would make them tea talk of anything else. 😂 They would come in and for years mom was friends with them. They would now and then leave a magazine, a calendar every year to make out they were trying to convert my mom to others in their local hall.
I had no idea jehovah witnesses was so similar to seven days adventists.
In Cork City Ireland the synagogue closed down early 2000s. There was not enough male members to keep it open. A beautiful part of the city used to be known as the Jewish sector and the park there is called Shalom park. The old synagogue a few years back became a seven days advetists church.
I spoke in Ireland and gave a retreat there. I enjoyed speaking to the Irish people And teaching them the Catholic Faith.
catholicism started by emperor constantine around 325 AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
@@georgeo785 😂😂 it started the night of the last super. That is seen as the first mass. Cannot believe you actually believe the lies you wrote about the Catholic religion. Catholic Truth have a videos on how the Catholic church began.
@@thebigloc1 the funny part is you actually believe that. How many stories have you been told. The first Christian are mentioned at Antioch and the church of real believers started after Jesus died and not before but of course you wouldn't know this because you don't read the Bible. Your told what to believe. You know what they say about the last laugh. It's not going to be funny when and if you ever do find out the truth. I love imoges
Not enough jews to keep a synagogue open?
Restorationism. Its like a whole branch of churches coming out of the 19th century or end of the 18th. My sister is a die hard JW and I have attended both JW and SDA churches, but never joined. I can see some similarities and some differences, but the deep seated animosity toward Catholics is rampant in their teachings. It's as if they could put aside their differences and make their own united front against anyone that questions or disagrees with their belief construct and dogmas. It's really sad to that any religion alters someone's thinking to reject their own family members especially when people need help.
Yes, I heard from former members, the Mormons are very helpful unless you leave and it is over. I must say I have known many that are not like that, some are relatives and otheres, good friends
SDA believe that Ellen White’s writings are infallible. That alone should make them question. They use a lot of cult like techniques.
They aren't as bad as the catholic church started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. You should look at videos about their history and look at the problems they have now. Pedophile priests, sex, money and power. Evil
My husband (and his family) are SDA. Two years ago he tried to ban all holidays. I told him if I wanted to live that way I would have joined the JW. I never realized how similar those 2 churches are.
You learn something new everyday!
Great video!
It's important to remember that the people that attend these sects believe they are Christians, believe in God and in Christ, and are more often than not good loving people; they are simply misguided or have been led astray. I was raised as JW, and after 20 years of wanting nothing to do with religion while recovering from the first 20 of trauma, I can tell you I am glad to have found the Catholic Church. It was the good example of everyday people as well as friends and family that led me to learn more and take my first RCIA class. So, keep this in mind: your example can help others!
Just FYI even the Catholic Church says the Adventists are in fact Christians
Part of that soul sleep doctrine comes from ecclesiastes 9:5
Edit to add i am a former JW. I used to knock on doors trying to convert people. I could talk for hours about the mental gymnastics witnesses go through to stay in "the truth"
That is interesting.
Yes,the Bible uses the term sleep to denote death. 2 Timothy 3:16. Jesus says that Lazarus is asleep, but the disciples had another idea,they thought he was taking rest,but Jesus said he was dead. Sleep = dead,many of the Old Testament prophets used the term to denote death. Dead means dead.
The person who is not receptive to the Gospels is dead while alive.
catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
@@georgeo785 liar. You would know if you actually saw any of Bryan’s videos.
My wife's uncle is a SDA pastor. His little church was "famous" for billboards and newspaper articles against the catholic church in the 90s. I enjoy refuting his nonsensical claims.
Two major things in common are that their founders had Arian/semi Arian beliefs just like the Jehovah Witnesses. This is why they both believe Jesus is literally Michael the archangel.
This is one of their own theologians who sat in the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventists. They oversee the whole SDA church in the world from Silver Spring Maryland. Their founder's Christology and Pneumatology were incorrect.
"Our pioneers clearly held Arian or semi-Arian views in regard to the person of Christ. They understood “firstborn over all creation” (Col 1:15) and “only begotten Son” (John 3:16) in a literal sense. The Father, therefore, was first and superior, and the Son, who had a beginning sometime in eternity, was subordinate to the Father. A corollary of this view was the belief that the Holy Spirit is an influence or the power of God, but not a person." (Gerhard Pfandl, Biblical Research Institute, The Doctrine of the Trinity Among Seventh-day Adventists; Journal of the Adventist Theological Society, 17/1 (Spring 2006): 160-179)
"Among the prominent pioneers who initially rejected the Trinity were Joseph Bates, James White, J. N. Loughborough, R. F. Cottrell, J. N. Andrews, and Uriah Smith. Bates and White retained an anti-Trinitarians view from the Christian Connection Church from which they emerged. Bates’ own confession in 1868 was that “it was impossible for [him] to believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, was also the Almighty God, the Father, one and the same being,”[1] and James White wrote against the doctrine in the Review and Herald in1855. For Loughborough, this doctrine was “contrary to common sense, … contrary to scripture,” and of pagan origin,[2] and Cottrell condemned it for its Catholic roots and its relation to the rice of the papacy.
Moving to the exegetical arguments, J. N. Andrews interpreted “having neither beginning of days” in Hebrews 7:3 as symbolic, since none but the Father were eternal, Jesus Himself having had “at some point in the eternity of the past …a beginning of days.”[3] In 1865 Uriah Smith believed that Christ was “the first created being.”[4] Expressions like “firstborn over all creation”[5] and “only begotten Son”[6] were taken in a literal sense, contributing to the idea that Christ was subordinated to the Father."
Thank you for sharing.
Well l follow the Apostle Paul because Jesus Christ chose him to be the Apostle to the gentiles. The catholic church started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Judgement Day for all the innocent people they have murdered and negatively affected. Pedophile priests,sex, money and power.
@@georgeo785 I can tell you haven't read the bible. Might want to focus on that before you start regurgitating whatever church "history" your protestant pastor told you.
1 Corinthians 3: 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
@@johnsix.51-69 l hear your typical told what to say response all the time. Brainwashed people like you aren't all owed to read or think for yourself. I bet you use a Bible put together by agnostics that took the writings from Alexandria Egypt. A terrible place. A type of the world that God told Israel to stay away from. If your church is so good why are you the only one with all the scandals pedophile priests pregnant nuns coverups by the higher ups and the pope. The person you call father when Jesus Christ said call no man father. Real Christians have one Father and He is God. You make an honest Christian regurgitate. Ha ha. Regurgitate sounds like something a cult follower would say. Martin Luther tried to warn people about your cult
I was raised a JW and have family still very much involved with the religion. I remember we passed a Romanian Seventh Day Adventists church on the way to the Kingdom Hall and when I would ask my relatives or other members about them since they looked so similar in terms of dress. The answer I got was “oh they are like Pentecostals” and they use that broad brush on a lot of other Protestant religions and you go on and don’t question or research because that’s a big “no no!” It’s not till I left that you realize how similar they are to the Witnesses also recently a colleague of mine from the Philippines told me they sounded a lot like “Iglesia de Cristo” that’s gaining a lot of traction.
Salli, If you're interested and don't live too far away I can send you a free book. It's written by a former member of the governing body who exposed the whole organization and one of the best books to refute the Jehovah's witnesses. If interested email us: Info@catholictruth.org
They are what happens when a zealously religious person is in a deserted place, separated from his neighbors by miles of forest, divorced from the Apostolic or any other tradition, free to peruse the Scriptures during long, brutal winters. Invariably he will either be deranged or a heretic at the end. Quite possibly both.
Interesting!
I actually came across someone like that in the comments under another Catholic channel. The guy claimed he got a supernatural encounter with God when he was isolated on an oil rig or something. Had been an atheist before that. Had nothing but a Bible and by reading it he arrived to a kind of Calvinist view of Christianity. He debated the Catholic view from that standpoint. It was very interesting. People have all kinds of experiences. That's why it's important to remember that even if we have authentic encounters or revelation from the Holy Spirit we always filter it through our own person and we can easily get into error. That's why the Catholic Church discerns private revelation in light of the Bible and Church teaching. I use that principle too, as best as I can because I'm not a theologian, but I make sure to study my faith well.
I tested stuff and found some experiences artificially generated and must be tested to get true or false. You can't believe everything including experiences anymore...
The Bible has been corrected and corrupted and things have been removed that explained more information on unclear subjects...
How do you feel about Abraham he was called a friend of God. I think he did really well and is in Heaven right now for his faith
Interesting- the perception is that all these different religions break away from the Catholic church. No. They are breaking away from each other.
Exactly. Offshoots of offshoots of offshoots.
catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Their history is of murder and deception. Pedophile priests, sex, money and power
I was an sda and i used to believe that ALL Sunday keeping churches get the mark of a beast as Ellen White wrote. Im glad God opened my eyes when I started reading my Bible without others telling me how to understand it. Though it's tough when your family see you as if you were drifting away from the truth
Praise God!!! Keep praying for your family.
When I studied with the witnesses the one glaring problem I noticed is the michael is jesus thing. The prophet Daniel and John the revelator both saw visions of the son of man and the archangel michael. It's just too much of a coincidence that neither prophet noticed they were the same person.
I asked the Jehovah's Witnesses to show me. Where in the Bible that Jesus was Michael, the archangel. They said that Jesus had the voice of an archangel. So I said, how does that make him Michael? How does that make him an archangel? How is that not symbolic since it also says he has eyes of fire and other symbolic descriptions?
@@CatholicTruthOfficiallooks at multiple discrepancies and descriptions to complete connections side by side. The bible had cannon, fannon works and did not hold a certain weight...etc. all you do is get a biblical concordance and look up variations of words per culture to understand modern syntax and linguistics. You will find the truth completely different...no Christian org has the full cannon version or understood fannon works...etc
The Catholic Faith merch / store shop still not working???? I’ve been checking everyday- still not working… i wonder if you guys are doing something.
The Catholic Church was founded on hundreds of lies the first of which is the apostle Peter started the Roman Catholic Church. LOL
Thank you CT Team!
Our pleasure!
I am a practicing Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, Apostles Creed believing Christian. If I don't believe in Transubstantiation, Purgatory (which require the treasury of merit and indulgences), Infallibility of the Pope, or typical Roman Catholic Dogma. Will I still be saved and go to heaven?
Great!! That's a great start! It's not the fulness of the faith, and we can talk about those other things, but transubstantiation was found among the earliest Christians, as well, for example. Nobody knows who is going to be saved but God alone, so we cannot say. But we can say that Jesus started the Catholic Church and wants everyone to be part of that Church. To be outside the Church is usually to be outside Christ since he is the head and the church is the body. Some Catholics don't believe everything either. Or, should I say, don't understand everything. We can always seek deeper understanding for those things we don't fully understand. Hope that helps.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I am glad to hear that you specifically don't outwardly condemn non Roman Catholics Christians. There were many ideas that came to be believed by the early Christians as gnostic belief crept in creating the requirement for ecumenical councils between all of the church bishops to route our heresy. I would account people like Augustine of Hippo, who was a gnostic philosopher, for injecting these types of mystic ideas to explain the unexplainable. These ideas were not all widely accepted, The Bishop of Rome, originally the of Eastern Orthodox Church, continued to push these ideas and claimed supremacy over the "Church" which resulted in the Great Schism in 1054 and birth of the Roman Catholic Church. The Catholic Church you mention that Jesus started is not todays Roman Catholic Church even though they can certainly claim ancestral heritage. The Original Church was described as both Orthodox and Catholic by definition. Having said that, I believe that all Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, Apostles Creed believing Christians, which includes Roman Catholics and others, will not be excluded from heaven based on the deviations of their dogmas.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thank you very much for your response. I have been interested in asking questions to an authoritative Catholic source. I believe many Trinitarian, Nicene Creed, believing denominations exclude others for, what I would consider, traditions that are subjectively interpreted. As long as the beliefs and traditions do not deviate or negate any portion of the Nicene Creed, Churches were deemed to be members of the body of Crist in 325 AD. Even though the Word of God has been preserved, interpretations vary. It appears you have a similar belief based on your response.
I would say that the original Church was/is orthodox, catholic, and apostolic (little letters); Not Catholic, which implies Roman Catholicism that broke away from the Orthodox Church in 1054 during the Great Schism. I think we also have to be careful when we validate an idea based on the age of it if it is not directly, specifically, and unequivocally from the mouth of Jesus or the Apostles. It could be argued that Augustine of Hippo introduce many mystic ideas into the Church due to his Gnostic Philosophic background, which was popular at the time. Variations occur over time and through different forms of reformation/renewal which are interpretations that seem to be based on our human need to explain the unexplainable. Unfortunately, some were created and/or used to differentiate groups as the catholic (One True) church, meaning the others are not. Some groups go further to say that you can not be saved unless you are part of there specific denomination.
Again, thank you for your time.
Are the Mormons included too?
They have different beliefs, but are part of the same branch of restorationism. Riddled with false prophecies and the same old line " we are the true church with God's salvation in here " Lots of doctrinal changes, mental gymnastics, cognitive dissonance, and finger pointing at other churches as false.
Us SDA shouldn’t be included in here. We are NOT the JW or Mormon. Do your research.
When I was at Ohio State University I love debating JW’S and Mormons etc.
The catholics are far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
Catholic truths seems to not really understand the beliefs of seventh day adventists at all, notice how he ignores the most obvious difference between the sda church and jehovas witnesses which is the fact that jws reject the trinity while sdas agree about the trinity. That is a huge difference that this man ignored. Furthermore he makes claims about how sda chuches have different beliefs about hell, of course we do, because we go by scripture unlike catholics. Let me begin by making the strongest argument that hell is not “eternal torment” rather “eternal destruction”. Matthew 10:28 reads “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” Notice how that verse says God can destroy both body and soul in hell, not eternally torment… furthermore revelations mentions a second death 4 times as what will happen to the wicked, not eternal torment, you see it in revelations 2:11, 20:6, 20:14, and 21:8. Last time I remember when you die you seize to exist, the first death we all experience including the righteous, but the second death is reserved for the wicked as said in revelations… I will also prove that soul sleep is biblical as well in my further rebuttal. Meanwhile I will keep proving with more verses that hell in the bible is about a second death, perishing, or destruction, not eternal torment. John 3:16 reads “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Notice how that verse reffers to perishing of those who reject Jesus, while those who accept him have everlasting life, that verse does not mention eternal torment for people who reject Jesus Christ, rather perishing for them. Malachi 4:verse 1 reads “For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” What does it mean to burn something up? And to not leave root nor branch? It means the wicked will be destroyed, not tormented eternally. Furthermore verse 4 reads “And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.” That verse says the wicked will be ashes under the feet of the righteous, not eternally tormented. Also what is the wages for sin? Death, not eternal torment, this is said in Romans 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Notice how verse after verse reffers to the punishment of the wicked as destruction, a second death, or perishing, not eternal torment. I already know the arguments catholics make to try and justify their false belief of eternal torment and I welcome any catholic who reads this to post those verses so we can go over them in context. I already know the most common arguments include the rich mans parable, revelations 14:11, the verse about the worm, the fire of hell being called eternal ect… please catholics I welcome you to make those arguments. Now I will prove that soul sleep is a true doctrine, ecclesiastes 9:5-6 reads “For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.” Wait that verse tells us the dead “know nothing”, it does not say they are being eternally tormented at all. The best proof of eternal sleep/soul sleep actually comes from Jesus himself regarding the ressurection of lazarus. John 11:11-14 reads “These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.” Notice how Jesus himself reffers to lazarus as being asleep as he is dead, he does not say he is in heaven, nor in eternal torment. 1 thessalonians 4:16 reads “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” Wait, that verse is regarding the second coming of Jesus, it clearly tells us that the dead in christ will rise first, it does not say anything about the dead in christ having already risen. Revelations chapter 20 I reccomend all of you people read it, tells us in verse 5 that those dead who did not rise after Jesus came back will not rise after 1,000 years have finished…. The wicked however will remain in their grave until the day of judgement according to matthew 13:41-42 which reads “As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.” That verse tells us the angels of God will gather the wicked at the end of the world. Also the sabbath is something the seventh day adventists take seriously, because it is the 4th commandment written in the law of God aka the ten commandments, I already have rebutted catholic truths answers regarding the sabbath which he has failed to address with an accurate response. I challenge all catholics to prove me wr
So you go by the Bible but what SDA founder had anything to do with determining the Canon of scripture? I'll answer.. nobody. Where did you get the Bible? The Catholic Church. Where did you get the doctrine of the Trinity. The Catholic Church. You already trust the authority of the Catholic Church , Ms White was not a prophet of God. Why would you follow that woman?😮
@@R.C.A.T You do realize that the first christian church followers where under persecution in Rome right, after constantine the catholic church started coming to power after the ruler justinian which passed down power to the papacy. The catholic church would kill/excommunicate anybody who went against their teachings? The catholic church deemed anybody that did not follow and obey their teachings a “heretic” and either excommunicated them or burned them at the steak. Have you never learned about what the catholic church did to the waldesians, Jan hus, thomas hitton, and anybody who did not obey the catholic churches traditions/teachings? Maybe if the catholic church did not murder people who did not abide by their teachings during the dark ages. then the biblical doctrines that expose the catholic church could have been popular teachings back then. Also the bible scriptures where not given to us by the catholic church, they where simply recognized by the catholic church. Those scriptures where authoritative because of who had wrote them, not because the catholic church gave them to us, the catholic church simply recognized what was already authentic. And the catholic church did not give us the bible, the old testament was part of the bible, yet the old testament was not given to us by the catholic church, the jews had the old testament established prior to the catholic church. And the trinity is a concept found in scripture not a concept made by the catholic church… we can see the concept of God having a spirit even in the old testament in the first page of Genesis. We can see Jesus claiming the ability to forgive sins and equating himself with God in the new testament. Simply be reading the ghospels and pauls writtings you get the concept of the trinity. The teaching of the trinity is found in scripture, it does not come from the carholic church. Now how about you debate my main point? You claim purgatory is real yet the bible does not support that teaching at all. Are you just going to openly ignore to give any rebuttal to all the verses I quoted regarding soul sleep or eternal torment? Begin by explaining to me what matthew 10:28 means? Wait the catholic church claims the soul is eternal and cannot be destroyed, but matthew 10:28 tells us “And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to DESTROY both soul and body in hell.” Funny how the teachings of the catholic church do no align with bible scripture. If the teachings of ellen G white align with the bible scriptures then I believe her, if they do not then I do not believe her. So instead of trying to deflect from the points I make how about you address how come every single verse I mentioned in my main comment contradicts the concept of purgatory, eternal torment, and hell and heaven right after death?
@@R.C.A.Tanyhow do you care to debate the sabbath or eternal torment? Adress the comments I made in my response, please tell me what I got wrong regarding soul sleep or eternal torment when the bible clearly teaches that?
This is somewhat off topic Bryan but I'd love to see you debate Gavin Ortlund PHD from Truth Unites. He's a protestant apologist and I can't help thinking it would be a fascinating exchange as you are both so knowledgable, if opposed. In my opinion you had the upper hand with Mike Gendron (as much as I admire his sincerity) but I'm guessing that Gavin has a deeper theological base. It's not that I want to see a theological fight as such...more that it could be valuable in clarifying key differences between Catholicism and Protestantism. And from two men with very strong background in apologetics. Anyway just a thought! Thank you for all your work, I've learned so much 😊🙏
We can consider it, but I think Trent horn debated him recently if I'm not mistaken.
keep teaching us, I have learned a lot from you. thank youl
Very interesting. Thank you sire.
Very welcome
It may just be me... but I can't get your merch link to work. I did get it to open by deleting the front of the link and the back of the link though... makes me think it is just me.
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"By grace you're saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is a gift of God: Not of works, that no man may glory." Eph 2: 8-9
Keep going onto eph 2:10. In fact, keep going onto the WHOLE bible, stop cherry picking, unless ur a great lover of cherries?
Exactly, you can't just quote one verse out of context and expect to create a doctor and around it. Especially when you have to ignore half the New Testament.
We explain what that verse actually means here. ruclips.net/user/shortsTwf3OMxGQsE?feature=share4
We swim in water. Crocodiles swim in water. Don't go near crocodiles. Let's go swimming.
Exactly. I follow Paul because he follows Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour and not some denomination started by crazy and wicked people
Catholic, how do you go to heaven, what you have to do? What bible tells us about statue worship?
SDA never accept they fail .. they don’t blame themselves for all false predictions, they actually blame God or their prophet’s angel
If you think that the deity of Christ is a small point, then, yes, they have the same beliefs. SDA's believe Jesus is God the Son, JW's believe he is a created being. I would call that a significant difference.
The founders of SDA didn’t believe Jesus was God
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Sda pioneers believe that Jesus is the literal son of God ❤
@@remnantime3672 They were heretics which is why EGW quickly changed her writings to try to affirm the trinity after James and Uriah and Joseph Bates died. She knew her cult would die off. All four are now in Hell
JW is like Uber and SDA is like Lyft. SDA pulled out of JW and did their own thing over disputes of bible interpretations. SDA founders inside of JW was adamant the sabbath day was Saturday hence the name. So in the beginning that was the only difference between the two. Now it’s a lot more different but probably the most similar to each other.
@@palmtrees6228 JW actually came from SDA. They all are false prophets
I know the history of both. Thanks for sharing this video. God bless
How the history of the catholic church. It's far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Why do you think they are having so much bad publicity. Pedophile priest, sex, money and power. Evil. They are mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Not good they will be repaid for all the evil they have done to innocent people
I am in crisis at the moment, I was baptized catholic, but strayed away from the faith, for many years, I've had bad experiences with priests, I won't go into detail, that was the final straw for me, and I left. It has never being explained to me what my faith entails. I have been with the JWs for a time now, they are lovely people, but I am beginning to realize that they are not what they portray themselves out, I was basically chastised recently for liking Ann Rice novels, and I was deterred from it. I am trying to distance myself from them, I am trying to leave in a tactful way, but I feel eventually I'll be shunned. Please help, I want to be reconnected to my Catholic faith, but I want to learn and be whole again. I am in such turmoil 🙏they are displaying classic cult like behavior.
That's because they are a cult. One of the biggest. I've known countless Jehovah's Witnesses believe, and their families never talk to them again.
We interviewed a former Witness, a high up Witness in the watchtower who converted to Catholicism. You might be interested in his story and also in our other JW videos which we will link below.
As for learning about Catholicism, you came to the right place! That's what we do! So many Catholics, former catholics, and other religions have said they've learned so much about Catholicism by watching our videos. So, you will learn a ton about the Catholic faith just by watching our videos too. We will link a few below to get you started. Of course, if you ever have any questions, let us know.
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Constantine did NOT start the Catholic Church: ruclips.net/video/9TjYdbHShJE/видео.html
10 Bible verses that Prove the Catholic faith: ruclips.net/video/bMIFdiUt0q4/видео.html
10 reasons I left the Catholic church.
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10 reasons I left the Catholic church. Part 2
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Anti-catholic arguments: ruclips.net/video/lpc1Ev622DA/видео.html
What Catholics believe about the Saints: ruclips.net/video/ZTKMXuhP-vE/видео.html
What Catholics believe about Mary: ruclips.net/video/t9orgxZDUYs/видео.html
JW VIDS
Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/bL54-XoUVIA/видео.html
History of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/gQtSXWREf90/видео.html
The biggest error of the Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/2lma9la6ca0/видео.html
A prominent Jehovah's Witness converts to the Catholic Church: ruclips.net/video/AIAgtiFNdXo/видео.html
True Stories of talking to Jehovah's Witnesses: ruclips.net/video/S5PFfjA2tPE/видео.html
Learning about the catholic faith is easy nowadays. Just make sure to follow Trent horn, scott hann, steve ray, michael lofton from reason and theology. In regard to JW, there is no easy way to distance themselves from them.
@@angelvalentinmojica6967 thank you for your advice 🙏
@@CatholicTruthOfficial greatly appreciate all of your words and links, God bless you 🙏
Hello, I suggest going to RCIA adult faith formation at your Church. The classes start around labor day at pretty much every Catholic Church. You can learn the faith, meet the Priests and other people. Call your Church to find out more❤
Thank you bryan,learned a lot
Your dad doesn't believe Jesus is God either. When I had discussions with a JW he'd always spoke of passages in the bible such as Jesus praying to God the Father and aaking "so was Jesus praying to himself?" And he'd point to other passages showing that Jesus and the Father are clearly separate. Make sure that your dad understands that the Trinity teaches that God the Father and Jesus are not the same. They are 2 different persons.
Was this comment for a particular thread?
Fun fact: I just had jehovah's witnesses come to my door this morning, and they'll be coming back, and also my usefulcharts chart on the Christian denomination family tree came in the mail, and I found out that SDA and JW both come from Miller, who I learned my freshman year of uni that failed predicting the end of the world. I thought "man, maybe this is a line of argument I can use against the JWs." And then now I just had the thought to find an anti-JW video and THIS VIDEO shows up in my feed. I'll definitely have to take notes and look at your other stuff on the JW's. Thank you and God bless!
The cults are losing followers. catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
After murdering Jesus 31AD and the apostles like Peter whom you crucified upside down in Rome, you proceeded to decimate the world during the Roman Dark Ages which lasted 538 -1798. The SDA and JWs are not guilty of shedding anyone's blood like you. Rev.17:5-6.
I think you're confused. Probably because he didn't study history. But it was the Pagan romance that killed the Jesus, not the Catholic Church that didn't even exist. In fact it was the Pagan Romans who killed Catholics for the first 300 years of Christianity until Constantine legalized Christianity allowed christians, Catholics to worship freely. So it wasn't the Catholic Church who persecuted, it was the Catholic Church who was persecuted. It was all early Catholics who died. There were no other Christians at that early time
@@CatholicTruthOfficial You are right I may have gotten confused. Thx. However: 1. The first church was installed in the garden of Eden was a Seventh -day Sabbath keeping church, the same church in which Jesus worshipped. Gen.2:1-3; Lk.4:16,31. 2. My church for 31 years, Catholic, emerged after 321AD, a cool 4320 yes after the original church. What happened 321 is that Babylonian Paganism of Rome entered the Lord's church after emo Constantine was converted. PAGANISM+SDA= UNIVERSAL (Catholicism). 3. Catholicism is primarily Babylonian Paganism, and that pagan spirit is the culprit in as far as bloodletting is concerned. Not everyone joined the new Christian religion including the Waldenses. These remnants bore the brunt of persecution. During the Dark Ages the Roman church burned almost all the Bibles, the source of spiritual light - hence the Dark Ages. 5. Roman Dark Ages lasted up to 1798 when Napoleon of France invaded Rome and took Pope Pius VI hostage. Protestantism which came through Martin Luther in 1530 suffered the Roman persecution. Many Europeans escaped death by running to the NewLands in America . 7. NB The first church on earth was not what people have been told.
No offense, but there was no church in the garden of eden. The _church_ wasn't started until New Testament times. Before that, it was the synagogue of God. Seventh-Day Adventists didn't exist until the 1800s when Ellen White learned from a Seventh-Day Baptist who proceeded the Adventists.
2. We believe that that church, the Catholic Church was started by Jesus. On the rock of Peter and the authority of the apostles. No other Christian Church goes back 2,000 years to Jesus.
When Constantine legalized Christianity and allowed Catholics to worship freely without being persecuted, tortured, dismembered, and killed for 300 years, Christians came out of the tombs, underground, and out of the mines to worship Jesus Christ again. Constantine outlawed most of the Pagan stuff and refuse to let it have anything to do in the Christian church. He promoted christianity, not paganism and he didn't blend the two. Also he had no authority to do anything. He even admitted that he's not a theologian and he left church stuff to the church. So this conspiracy theory without a lick of proof that Constantine Blended paganism and Christianity is just a myth that's been endlessly repeated by Seventh-Day Adventists and baptists.
3. You say that not everyone joined this new religion including the walledensians. The waldensians came 9 centuries later. Protestant history is so limited. They take one group here and one group here and ignore the entirety of history. And in fact, waldensians were catholic. You should probably do some more research on this, actual research from like history books.
4. Another obvious conspiracy theory without any facts. And it all comes from your founder Ellen G white. She said that the Catholic church persecuted, people in the dark ages, and yet Seventh-day Adventist just follow suit rather than actually studying history and rather than following her delusions. She wasn't a historian and didn't know anything. That's why they can't ever mention anything. But what they won't tell you is that the Catholic Church started the university system in the middle ages, made the bible, copy the Bible for over a thousand years, translated it into different languages and protected it from being destroyed by Vikings and barbarians all throughout the middle ages. We also forwarded science for over a thousand years, brought the gospel around the world through missionary work, and created some of the most beautiful art, music, and architecture that the world has ever known.
Actually the dark ages are said to last until about 1500s. Is the same problem with Jehovah's witnesses. And mormons. They only study history through their own Church's lens rather than actual history. But we challenge you to do that friend.
Martin Luther invented doctrines that were never heard of in the history of the church. So of course he's going to be persecuted in the same way that Paul and Peter persecuted Heretics of the first century church and told Christians not even to talk to them and to shun them because they were teaching a different doctrine.
Can you show us one place in the entire New Testament where Jesus tells us to keep the sabbath? Or paul? Or peter? Or anyone? All 10 commandments we are told to keep in the New Testament except the sabbath. Why do you think that is? Because it was part of the law of Moses which was fulfilled in Christ in the New Testament specifically says that we don't hold the Sabbath anymore, or new moons, or any of the other Jewish rituals and feasts. Things like circumcision, passover, and eternal ordinances that God said would last forever but were fulfilled in Christ..
Thx, I am not offended at all and hope you're not too. We are on duty! 1. Granted, education Science and technology is courtesy of Rome, where they say all the roads lead. No question about that, after all she is the end-time superpower (beast). 2. You are right the SDA church started after 1844. The first church in Eden was a Seventh -day Sabbath keeping church. 3. A church is where 2 or 3 congregate to worship in truth. Mt.18:20. It can be a home church but it doesn't have to be a mega organization. Cain and Abel worshipped even by making offerings to the Lord in the church setting. Gen.4:3-4. During Abraham's time there was a priest called Melchizedek to whom Abraham tithed. Gen.14:18. In the wilderness church Aaron and the Levites did the priestly work of the church. It's therefore not true that there was no church until the New Testament times. Before Babylonian captivity there was a temple in Jerusalem in the days of Prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah. After it's destruction around 685 BC, it was rebuild in the time of Nehemiah of the Old Testament times. Ezr.7. 5. Christ could not have started the Catholic church because He used to worship on the Sabbath long before the Catholic church was started. The likes of Peter and Paul were seventh-day Sabbath keepers. Jesus couldn't have changed His church because He is changeless. Heb.13:8. 6. What about Sabbath keeping command in the New Testament? Jesus did command it by example. Lk.4:16,31.There was no need to command it because all the Jews customarily kept it. But He taught them how to keep it even as He declared that He was the Lord of the Sabbath. Mk.2:23-28. The Sabbath is only but the 4th of the TEN moral and everlasting Commandments of God whose transgression is tantamount to SIN. Mt.5:17-18; 1Jn.3:4; Jam.2:9-11. The Sabbaths which were done away with are the 6 Jewish feasts of Lev.23:4 onwards. Col.2:14-17. 7. Constantine outlawed true Bible Sabbath keeping Christianity and promoted false or pagan Sabbath keeping Christianity on the venerable day of the pagan sun god of Babylon. In short, Constantine tried to kill Bible Christianity. Saturday Sabbath was moved to Sunday. The pagan idol of Semiramis holding baby Tammuz (both being the sun gods) subtly became Mary and baby Jesus. The 2nd commandment forbidding idol worship was then removed. But to retain the number at 10 the church Cathecism splits the 10th commandment into two!!!! This is blending the Lord's church with Paganism, something which you can't deny. OVER TO YOU with God's love. We're learning and unlearning, not hardlining. Thx and welcome in the name of the HEAVENLY Father. By the way, concerning the Roman persecution of the Dark Ages, the Pope will soon announce another final Sunday Law (Sunday rest by law ostensibly to mitigate Climate Change phenomenon). Everything is well laid out in Laodato Si and Laodato Deum. Like in the era of Constantine's Sunday law, Bible Sabbath keepers shall be stigmatized and persecuted for refusing to accept Sunday Sacredness. They won't be allowed to buy or sell unless they go Sunday, the venerable day of the sun god instead of the Sabbath of the Lord of the Bible.
As an SDA, four corrections to your video:
1. The SDA church has NEVER made a claim about the date of the second coming of Jesus. Yes, Miller did, and we grew up from it, but not Ellen White nor any other adventist leader fixed a date afterwards.
2. The 144 000. If they are literal or not is up to debate in the SDA, and Ellen G White didn´t believe to be one of them. Our interpretation is that those 144 000 are among the ones that survived the great tribulation. Also, we don´t believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, unlike JWs.
3. We don´t believe that the pope will lead a confederation against the SDA. We believe that the pope will be among the ones in the coalition, and that they will attack every faithful christian, including some catholics.
4. We don´t believe to be the only One True Church. We believe to be a continuation of the protestant reformation, with greater light, but not the only mean of salvation (Unlike JWs and... Catholics?)
My own opinion: JWs are like the distant cousin who gives bad name to all your family. Even though we are similar in some things, many main things (like Jesus as God, for instance) are VERY different. Also, none JW would enter here without being disaffiliated.
May God bless us all :)
Ok, and where do you believe the Bible came from or can you come to a different (reasonable) answer to the following…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Peace!!!
@@sia9907 im sorry you read into something that is not there. My "!!!" (3 exclamation marks) are one for each person of the Trinity and have been a signature of mine for many years. But if you want to make it into something else that would be very unfortunate.
Sdas don't believe they are the "remnant church "? They don't believe that in the end all(true believers) will accept the sabbath and become sdas?
@@srich7503 I've never mentioned anything about the bible canon. I don't see the relevance of your question.
@@iguanapoolservice1461 We do believe we are the remnant church, and we do believe that the sabbath day will be something very important during the last days, but we don't believe that every true christian will become an SDA. We are not exclusivists.
Good explanations keep it up✝️
Bryan thank you for all your great videos, help a lot!! This two sects are the same ideology from this other one that started in Los Angeles “Santology” 🤦🏻♀️
You mean Christian science or scientology.. Totally different religions derived from Christianity
Well catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Haven't you seen news about all the pedophile priests, sex, money and power. Evil. They are mentioned in Revelation the city on seven hills. Get payback for all the innocent people they have harmed. Including murder
Wanting to obey all 10 commandments instead of 8 or 9 doesn't make u a cult
No, it's the other things that make you a cult. Every religion tries to observe the commandments. Ironically, the official position of the 7th day Adventists is pro abortion. That would be breaking the commandment not to murder.
Dear friend Catholics have created there oven Bible with many different things you don’t find in the real Bible KJV they actually banned the KJV as a forbidden book Why ? And through time they have killed more people , maybe it is there way of Love your enemy. The gunpowder plot in England would have killed many more , but it was stopped. The thought of a Pope ( the Holy See) is another thing I have a big problem with . But it is easy to criticize others ET
The KJV is a VERY poor translation of the Holy Scriptures and in common with other protestant Bibles is deficient of7 books in the Old Testament, and another 2 books have chapters missing. It is the second worse of all translations, behind the JWs New World Translation..
@@michaelhaywood8262 words are cheap, many people things it is the true word of God.
But you didn’t answer any of the other questions, about all the killing done by the Catholic Church in the past, was that the way they showed Gods love for us ET
Why did the Catholic church ban the KJV Bible? Because it was a bad version just as the Tyndale version was which is the reason the KJV was instituted in the 1st place and the reason Protestants did not use it for very long either. 🤷🏽♂
Now can you answer the following question for me…
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, not only did they not agree but their list of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time. So, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century, just 75 years AFTER the council of Nicaea which began the Trinitarian docrtine, and then with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved these scriptures by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us, show us, who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
Peace!!!
Hey Brother Bryan what can you say about Iglesiya Ni Cristo that was founded by Felix Manalo?
In a nutshell: They are a cult. They are not even Christian because they reject the Trinity.
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How about Lord's Recovery by Witness Lee
@@ericfernandez1940 Hi. When did that organization started?
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1st, Tim, 4:1-4, Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in latter times some shall depart from the faith , giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of DEVILS, v, 3, forbidding to marry , (celibacy) and commanding to abstain from some meats,( SDA) these verses shows that the catholic was the mentioned woman from Babylon and those who adopts her doctrines like trinity, were her children, and the SDA, is one of them,according to these scriptures,
I worked with a SDA, very strong convictions. He had a lot to say about the Catholic Church which brought me to Catholic Answers and learning about early church fathers. Here is the biggest issue, Jehovah’s Witnesses and SDA followers have strong convictions, with JWs convictions so strong they will even put their children’s health at risk (dumb). Before confession this week I observed children getting baptized, the adults didn’t even know the proper responses. Most Catholics are not faithful Catholics, they don’t learn the Bible and how that is applied in the Mass and traditions. 😢
Sadly this is true. Since Vatican II religious instruction in the Catholic community is watered down and pathetic. I had 2 great teachers in grammar school who led us through the Bible. I think about them all the time and I’m so grateful for having them.
How were people taught before Vatican II?
After Vatican 2, there was a perfect storm that hit the church where 50000 nuns left the church, 10000 priests, the sexual rebellion, anarchy, scientism, the new age movement, and other things. The church went through a horrible time and never really recovered. Live and many of the liberal theologians told normal way people in the Catholic Church just to ignore ithe Pope and the other guys in Rome, and so people started leaving the church and doing their own thing. Consequently, liberals and modernists have passed on their garbage theology and satanic false beliefs down through the seminaries. , Catholic schools, and religious education programs. Our church has been under attack for 50 years. But there is a huge resurgence in revival going on as well now.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial do you recommend attending the pre Vatican II mass? I attended my first Latin Mass recently and while I was impressed with how the dress code was followed and the reverence for the Eucharist, it also gave me a greater appreciation for my Pastor’s gospel message during his homily.
@@sia9907Yes, but truth matters and why would we want to deny someone the fullness of truth? There is so much depth and beauty in Catholicism that Protestants miss.
Ex SDA here. I find information provided in this video superficial and inaccurate. From an average Catholic perspective the two may seem very similar or nearly identical, but the real life differences are far from that.
The SDAs and JWs do have common roots in the Millerite movement and they both believe in their exclusivity of holding the complete truth. However, the SDAa are much more open to ecumenism and generally speaking they maintain good relationships with other Protestant churches. I live in Czechia, where Baptists are not so well known like in the US. I recently heard a Baptist pastor explaining to the group of visitors in a Baptist church, that Baptists are close to other Protestant churches in Czechia, and among others he named the SDAs. He even recommended people to go there, because the SDA house of prayer happened to be nearby.
In my city a mainline Protestant church once had their gatherings in the SDA church building, because their own was under construction. The local SDA community helped them, because Adventists worship on Saturday while the Protestant church had services on Sundays and their beliefs were quite close.
In my country, an SDA scholar is the head of the Bible research department at a non Adventists faculty of theology (Faculty of Hussite Theology).
I could give you more examples like that. These things would be unthinkable with the JWs, because they strictly distance themselves from any contacts to all other churches.
The JWs have their own translation of the Bible, while the SDAs use other commonly available translations, that are used by other Christians.
Also, there is a lot more freedom of thinking and openess to criticisim in the SDA church.
The SDAs didn't predict the end of the world multiple times. You got this wrong. The SDAs originate from one Millerite group, which adopted spiritual interpretation of the year 1844, but after that never atempted to make more predictions. The SDA church was founded in 1863.
The JWs however, made predictions for the years 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, 1925 and 1975.
The JWs don't have the same doctrine about the heavely sanctuary or the investigative judgement like the SDAs. There is some similarity because both groups adopted some sort of spiritual interpretation of the 1844 and 1914 failed predictions, but they definitely do not use the same words.
Today, the SDAa don't put much stress on the 2nd comming of Jesus compared to the first years of their existence. They seem to focus more on other thing such as healthy life style. Don't get me wrong, the eschatology is still present in the SDA church today, but not very strongly (at least in my country).
The SDAs don't believe in the literal meaning of the number 144000 in the Book of Revelation. The deal with this book a lot and they draw serious conclusions from it, but they basically consider Revelation to be a book of symbols.
Last but by no means least: You mentioned that both JWs and SDAs believe they are the only Church with complete truth or revelation. Also, you included information on the importance of private revelations claimed by E. G. White and Ch. T. Russel.
You aso said: "They [all cults] hyperfocus on one thing that makes them correct and everyone else is wrong."
This is spot on and I completely agree with you. But the very same thing can be said about the Roman Catholic church. The RCC believes they are the only true church giving some validity to Orthodox churches and very little to Protestants.
The SDAs base their exclusivity mainly on Sabbath and the complete biblical set of Ten Commandments, refraining from unclean meats and alcohol (Human body is the temple of the Holy Spirit). The RCC stresses the importance of the Eucharist and other sacraments, Papacy and holy tradition. The list is not complete, but I won't go into details here.
The SDAs believe in the Divine revelation of Ellen White, while in the RCC there are numerous modern day revelations of the Virgin Mary. Not all of them are officially recognized by the RCC, but both recognized and unrecognized revelations have a huge influence on the Catholic believers.
The (hyper)focuses and revelations are clearly different, but the principle in JW, SDA and RC doctrines and religious practice is similar if not the same.
I hope that comment will help both the author and the viewers.
I am a Seventh-Day Adventist. To be honest, as I walk on this path, I observe many adventists subscribe to E.G White more than the Bible (hence, the SDA reform) when my church claim to to be Sola Scriptura, which mean Bible alone. Sometimes it makes me sad because when I need to defend that we only use the Bible for our beliefs, White comes in on the topic. Nonetheless, White said that if her writings contradict the truths of the Bible, we follow the Bible. So that's what I am doing. Her writings are great but the Bible must be the priority. I think SDA is the most accurate with the Bible, you cannot find fault in their beliefs because it's always from the Bible, "Thus, saith the Lord." But when the Bible is overshadowed by some other writings, that's where problem arises, atleast for me.
Thank you for the comment. It is true that some of the Adventists go by the bible, although, as you've said, many go by Mrs white. With that being said, all Protestant denominations, of which The Seventh-Day Adventists are only one of thousands, they all go by the Bible alone. They all go solely by the Bible. SDAs are not the only ones. Lutheran's we're the ones who invented the Bible alone. And also calvinists, presbyterians, and all the rest go by the bible.
The Fatal flaw in all of them though is that there was no Bible for the first 400 years of christianity. So Christians went by the church Christ established and not the bible. It was the church that made the Bible in the first place. Second, there's no place in scripture where it says to only go by the Bible. Jesus also says to listen to the church. And he said if we don't listen to the authority of the church then we reject him and God who sent him. Just some things to think about. God bless.
can you give some examples where the Bible is overshadowed by some of Ellen G. Whites writings? Or things that she has a false view on? I want to look it up and study it for myself.
Wow, coming from the catholic beliefs with its known pagan history, practices with idols, wars, and horrendous cruelty beyond belief and the worship of images, wealth beyond the kings, and here you sit in the seat of judgement without a wince or a cringe while condemning mothers for hoping and teaching it is true. Now that's just stunningly impressive, hence why your religion is steeped in politics as Gods means of communication and leadership to the masses which will as you suggest, will never end.. Dear God, you mean that what you pray for in the lords pray... will never be a reality and that is your hope condemned for ever with human rulers liars, thieves and criminals and war mongers... Taxi...!
Wow, unbelievable! Thank you for all these details. they are certainly anti-Catholic in my experience, and those other ones too!
Yes, ironically, the two of the most rabidly anti-catholic religions.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Do you have specifics on The Church of Christ that you mentioned? I discovered their teachers think we are going to Hell but not necessarily our friends in the pews.
We will be doing a video on them sometime in the future.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Figgers...
@@CatholicTruthOfficialhave you done research on the Local Church of Witness Lee. Have their own “Recovery” version Bible . Are extremely anti Catholic and are growing super fast in college campuses as they pretend to be benign Christian Clubs. I am losing my daughter to their indoctrination and it has been a spiritual battle since Oct ‘22. 😢
What I don’t understand people like you brother always talk about what Adventist say but never say what you say
The fact is that JHW have more with Protestantism than SDA
Tell me what you believe in, catholic worship idols that’s Cultic
We showed in the video that Seventh-Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses have so many core doctrines in common because they came out of the same failed man-made sect. You didn't prove that wrong. You didn't give any evidence. And Catholics don't worship idols. That just shows you haven't studied anything for yourself.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial my brother we only typing on this, we should have a verbal conversation and you will see how much I know and how much I studied
A lot of the evangelical churches believe that Catholics are not Christians, VODDIE BAUCHUM JOHN MacARTHUR GINO JENNINGS just to name a few and even former Adventist themselves
Like I said in my last comment everything that Adventist teaches I can prove it in the Bible can you say the same
The most insane thing a SDA member told me is that Jesus is coming in a spaceship during His 2nd coming , take just SDA members to heaven 😂
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Where is that in the Bible?😄
do not know what he was smoking, but this is not something from the Bible and definitely not taught in the SDA church.
Some weirdos can be found in every denominations, when you look long enough. It is not truthful to base your whole worldview on 1 bad encounter. Imagine someone would to the same thing about your church? would this be fair?
I've been a member of the Seventh Day Adventist church 55 years. A Jehovah's witness came to my house and we studied together for 10 years. I also know something about catholic beliefs. I can say that the Jehovah's Witness doctrine is a whole lot farther off from my beliefs than even catholic teachings. I don't see how you can say we are the same. We are definitely not.
Definitely not. We showed those core doctrinal beliefs between the 2 religions period you can't find that with the Catholic Church and Jehovah's witnesses.
@@sia9907Apparently you're not from Jesus. You judge people falsely like you're from the devil.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial if you want to convince somebody please stay with the truth, instead of making connections where none are.
The Adventist church has as much in common with Jehovas Witnesses, as Catholic church has in common with Jehovas Witnesses. -> not very much.
They are not the same although they take many of their teachings from the 7th Day Adventist and the 2nd Day Adventist Early in its development, the Bible Student movement founded by Charles Taze Russell had close connections with the Millerite movement and stalwarts of the Adventist faith, including George Storrs and Joseph Seiss. Although both Jehovah's Witnesses and the Bible Students do not identify as part of the Millerite Adventist movement (or other denominations, in general), some theologians categorize these groups and related sects as Millerite Adventist because of their teachings regarding an imminent Second Coming and their use of specific dates.
What did you smoke bro before making this video?, Learn to share
How can a persecuting power debunk a prophetic power? to the person presenting this video, answer this one question. Who persecute the Saints of God from A.D 538 to A.D 1798 ? for time and times and the dividing of time. Danie 7 :25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time". A day for a year in Bible prophecy. (Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:4-6).
Revelation 11:2 "But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months. 30 days in a month 42X30 using the day year principle. which power rule and persecute decenters for 1260 years"? The lord knows this time was very important he gave it 6 times in the bible.
Revelation 11:2. Revelation 13:5, Revelation 11:3-4, Revelation 12:6, Revelation 12:14 and Daniel 7:25 (time, times and half a time. = 3.5 years) only one power fit this. The Papacy>
Does the idea that the 'dead saints' can't hear our prayers somehow come from the idea of soulsleep? I have always been curious about it because it's so widespread among Protestants but I don't understand how they arrived at it. I believe the Bible is very clear about the fact that the saints in heaven are very much alive and aware of what is going on on Earth.
@@menjuu1408. You’re wrong that soul sleep is only believed from Jw and adventist. There are theologians that believe that also.
Like 5% of so-called Christians believe in soul sleep.
This is very good question! If dead saints can’t hear our prayers than many doctrines in Roman Catholic Church are falsified. So it’s necessary to defend such belief.
But what is really the teaching of the Bible? Or why some christian theologians believe different? I prefer you to read “old” book (1958) from Oscar Cullmann, the well-known New Testament scholar, who wrote a book entitled “Immortality of the Soul Or Resurrection of the Dead? The Witness of the New Testament”.
I also suggest to read Wikipedia article “Christian mortalism”, section “Modern scholarship”.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial. You wrote: “… so-called Christians.” Do you really believe that they’re not Christians? 😮
Catholic and Jehovah Witnesses are more similar to each others. They both worship the sun god Sunday.
I don't think you've ever studied either religion if that's your best argument. It's rather silly and based on no facts. Please do better.
I'm sure this was an error, but at about 4:55, you say "theological training", but the words on the screen say "physiological training"!
Oops. Thanks for pointing that out.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial No worries!
Please make a video on oneness pentecostals.
We plan to.
Very well said. Thank you Boss Mercier.. 👍👍💕💕
Just wondering why my messages for you keep disappearing.
@@marietav7342 huh? There are sometimes, our messages didn't appear even in FB, or late at least 2weeks.. 😅😅
@@LuminousTwinHearts I thought you blocked me that is why my messages for you keep disappearing. I asked myself, "What offense did I do to him for him to block me. Have you blocked people? Me, none so far. Oftentimes I am the one who gets blocked by people haha because they got irritated by me. I realized I have a talent in teasing and irritating people. Hahaha.
@@marietav7342 why oh why? Should I block you😅😅? May mga oras Hindi ako nakakatanggap Ng reply notification from FB too..
Sa system na nila Yun.. by the way, moderator na Rin ako sa program ni Brother Wendell Talibong, kaya mga sulpot beware, or else I'll block or mute them.. lol 🤣🤣😂😂
@@LuminousTwinHearts Paano ka naging ganun? Nag-apply ka? Good for you. I know deep in your heart, you want to serve the Lord.
Playing devil's advocate: why would God let most of humanity in the dark and only share his revelation with a tiny group of people in the Levant for thousands of years?
Internet archives “ The Sabbath Question From The Roman Catholic Standpoint as stated by the “Catholic Mirror “ 1894
Was Jonah a false prophet? He prophesied the doom of two cities and yet it didn’t happen. I find it interesting that Rome admits the S.D. Adventist have the truth. Not the GC SDA’s today. But what was the true church who now has become corrupt by accepting Rome’s Trinity doctrine and have become intoxicated by it to drunk to wake up.
When dealing with the Churches of Christ, which did reintroduce me to baptism as a sacrament, I tried to fund where there was a great sliding away from original Church beliefs and I couldn't find it. It did lead me to consider that one should be able to trace a line of people and beliefs back to the Apostles. Cults and so on spring up that do not have this.
Its interesting that the Churches of Christ come from the restoration movement but are so different from SDAs and JWs. They do all share a lot of anti-catholocism but the CoC is actually pretty close to Catholic beliefs on a lot of things.
@davidf5089 Churches of Christ were more of a reaction to normal Protestantism. Due to this, they likely end up more aligned with the Catholic Church and Orthodox Churches. Actually more Orthodox than Catholic. I would argue that anything Amerucan Restoration at its core is NOT. Protestant is historically Reformed plus Ababaptist.
And another thing. Gov Body removed a member, YET they preach to their crew that Gov Body members are approached and appointed by an angel of God and are chosen of the 144 thousand. Then, by this claim, how can they remove a member? BTW Hebrew does not have vowels so the name Jehovah is also made up by them. What is soul sleep. First I have heard of this
In Latin America several "evangelical" denominations believe in soul sleep.
Here most early protestant preachers were Baptists but with time Adventists came and intermingled with latino protestants and their doctrine became a melange.
Independent Baptist follow the original Scriptures from the Hebrew Masoretic Text and the Greek Textus Receptus. Facts from the book defending the KJV of 1611. catholicism started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. Real Bible believers follow the Apostle Paul because he was chosen by Jesus Christ as the Apostle to the gentiles. I follow Paul because he follows Jesus Christ. Our Lord and Saviour.
I know this isn't related to the video but you should get Allen Parr on for a Protestant vs catholic debate. He goes as far as to say catholics aren't saved.
Send us an email please. Info@catholictruth.org
Sent you an email
Please discuss why a JW parent would shun its non JW child who loves its mother deeply?
Founder of JWs CT Russell was an atheist. He couldn't accept an all loving God could create a dispensation where 95 percent of human souls are punished eternally born in ignorance. Russell walked into an Adventist meeting and his faith was restored. The dead souls sleep unconscious in the grave not tortured forever.
Good video
late me ask 1 question jhon Calvin the Protestantism most theologyical scholars what is the point of there false teaching and most not list Arian the great heretic in history he is knowledgeable so what is the point for theological training that is pointless 🤔!!!???
I Love it it’s amazing to be alert, not let any other impostors get in into our brains
Yes catholicism is far worse started by emperor constantine around 325 AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures
No surprise that a catholic would be bothered by acknowledging the correct sabbath when their pope (God on earth) Constantine changed the day.
Constantine changed nothing. Christians worshiped on Sunday for centuries before Constantine. How do you explain that?
5:13 Are you saying, "exit Jesus"?
He’s saying exegesis. It means a critical explanation or interpretation of a text, especially of scripture.
You don't quote the Bible why? JW don't observe the sabbath Gen. 1 JW don't believe Lev. 11. JW. Don't believe Jesus Christ is interceding for us Heb. 1 JW don't believe the spirit of prophecy Rev.19:10 and so on.
Thank you for the comment. Why would we quote the Bible when we are just doing a comparison between the 2 religions? We mentioned there were some differences of course, what the similarities, distinct uncanny similarities are very interesting.
It should base on what the two churches believe. You cannot talk about what two different religions believe without justifying what they believe with Bible quotations as a Bible believing Christian.
We don't need to say whether their beliefs are justifiable or not according to the Bible, that's not the scope of this video. We were just comparing and contrasting their beliefs.
Honestly I did not know they both come from the same person. I knew they were originated from Protestantism but not THAT closely related. Sounds kinda like they being 2 sisters.
I’ve been thinking about writing a book onSDA have no idea where to start. I grew up and was raised in the SDA Church I feel like many more videos need to be made to help these people see the light. It is easy for them to dismiss it since it’s just coming from the “antichrist”
I grew up and was raised in Roman Catholic Church and now I’m member of SDA Church. ☺️ And I know why am I here where I am. ☺️
And my son and nephew will be baptised next friday. 🙏🙈😇
Jtr, We have made several videos on the 7th day. Adventists, including interviewing some former members who are now Catholic, make sure to check out those videos in our description section below.
@@IzidorPokrivacyou left because you didn’t know your faith.
@@IzidorPokrivacweak Catholics left for Sects. Strong Christians become Catholics because in their quest for truth- it is just undeniably that the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church ⛪️ is the only church founded by Jesus Christ, our almighty God Himself. 🙏.✌🏿✌🏿✌🏿
@@sia9907 most probably he was drawn by propaganda and lies SDA use. Otherwise only those who don’t know their faith “ ignorance” leaves Catholic
(I'm a seventh day)we are not the same in doctrine we believe in the trinity the father, the son, and the holy spirit they don't (jw). from what i heard in this video i understand that as a catholic you have to defend your belife.1 peter 3:15 . prophecy is something that we must study and not just neglect . Jesus himself was a prophecy(issah 53). A lot of your comparison we not on point like the evangelism that's something that we all need to do.
We didn't say you were the exact same, we said you have many or most of the same core doctrines and beliefs.
@@CatholicTruthOfficialdont agree with that we have diffrent doctrine also you mention that alot of the first adventist didnt have no theology studys in the bible we see peter was a simple fishermen
You have some different doctrines, that is true, but a large, very large number of them as we showed in this video are the exact same.
Your lack of Bible knowledge lack of knowledge about Adventists is rather astounding and very sad to see. Please do much better research and Bible study.
You didn't even watch the video, so why would we take anything you said seriously? It's typical of 7th day adventists just to insult people rather than offer actual facts or even name one thing we said that was incorrect.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I would not have commented if I had not watched the video. There is not space here to show all the places you are incorrect here, but here's a few things. The Adventist church has not predicted the date of the second coming. You are way off in what you think we believe on the 144,000, and Ellen White did not believe that she was for sure one of the 144,000. We believe the 144,000 (either literal or symbolic)(I believe it is symbolic) are the group of God's people who are alive to see the second coming, and will be translated to Heaven without tasting death. This is what the Bible teaches (Rev. 6:17; 7:1-4; 15:2,3). Ellen White never taught, nor do we believe, that we need her writings to properly understand the Bible.
Much of your video is spent in just making silly comparisons. Are you aware that John the Baptist, Jesus, and the 12 disciples were also not trained theologians or pastors?? Of course we are to go door to door sharing the gospel, because that is what Jesus taught us to do! Are you aware that there are many common beliefs between Adventists and other denominations, including Catholics? So does that make them the same denomination?? You ridicule us for always preaching that Jesus is coming soon?? Please read Rev. 22:12,20. I would encourage you to spend much more time in earnest Bible study, instead of spending your time ignorantly bashing what you know very little about. All of the reformers knew that the papacy was the antichrist, and for good reason, because the Bible plainly reveals this to be true. A careful study also reveals how the Catholic church and it's pagan doctrines rose out of the ancientcity of Pergamum, which if where the Bablonian priests fled to and continued their religion in. These pagan doctrines were then adopted by the Catholic church. This is why the Catholic church is full of sun and moon worship symbols, and also many other pagan gods and symbols. I pray that somewhere within you, you want to know truth and that you will study these things out and learn the truth from the Bible alone.
False prophets friends study the Bible. Catholic Church is breaking the commandments of God 🙏🏻
Yes, seventh day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses are false prophets which both came out of the same failed movement.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you forgot to mention that Catholic Church changed Gods law. This is a terrible offence to God and will be severely punished for doing so 🙏
@@CatholicTruthOfficial by the way your wrong about sda They keep the commandments of God and follow the Bible that is why you don’t like them. Jehovah witness have their own bible and don’t believe Jesus is God so they are totally different and can’t be compared at all so learn what a false prophet is before you accuse them to be false teachers. You have no fact to accuse Sda to be teaching contrary to the Bible but Catholic Church admit they changed Gods law
@@CatholicTruthOfficial friends don’t fear Sda but fear the mark of the Beast which will impose a mark to whoever worship the Beast and receive the 7 last plagues and who is the Beast that will impose this worship? Study revelation 13 and Daniel 7 to know who that beast is so you don’t receive this mark 🙏
No, for most of the Seventh-day Adventist history, which is really short compared to most churches, they have not followed God's commandments. In fact the official position of the SDa "church" was pro-abortion. They were staunchly for abortion up until very very recently. And that breaks the commandant of murder and they had no problem doing so. So it's hypocritical that they claimed others break the Commandments while they freely do so themselves. Also it was Christians in the New Testament who worshiped on the Lord's day, and all Christians down through history.
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Welcome!
I’d rather be a JW any day than a Catholic. They believe in the papacy which no one on the Bible believed they. No one treated Peter like a pope.
So you would rather be in a religion that rejects the Trinity and doesn't even know Who God is? That says a lot. At least the papacy is in the Bible, the Jehovah's witness believes are not.
We worship 365 days a year, you can always find a Catholic Mass somewhere.
Amen!
They are rich from just what you described. Started by emperor constantine around 325AD mix roman tradition and pagan idolatry with some Bible scriptures. History of murder and deception. Pedophile priests,sex, money and power
Hi some of your point with Exaggeration 🤔
mistake point 1, the end time theology shearing is william miller that is true but SDA are not the same at investigation judgment (IJ) with JW it's only teachs the SDA Church
your mistake point 2, christ coming of eventually is again is different JW Say jesus was come with no one seen him 19th century i'm sure the date and year and SDAs teach that christ will come and every person sees him when he comes
Mistake 3,even the soul sleep and Michael theology is some of are different for ex.soul sleep SDA teachs when a person die his unconsciously sleep not perish but the JW says its perish and recreated
and even Michael the archangel JW used for creation SDAs are not there definition is different
Mistake point 4,i can say on SDAs states you say they are not skilled with theological way or interpretation of bible and exegesis and mainly history's fact, so on that don't affected the theology of SDA IJ,soul sleep,prophecy interpretation SDAs the theological exegesis are more depending history and fact in other denominations like(east Orthodox ,Catholics,more Protestant ism are not constant agreement in prophecy history interpretation
and your criticism is more attacking the church
SDA’s do not do door to door evangelism. It’s a lot more lax. The only thing is keeping the sabbath is literally the 4th commandment. The cognitive dissonance that allows believe to ignore the 4th commandment is comical.
The doctrines on hell and soul sleep is early christian and is true biblically. I am Catholic but I support no hell and soul sleep and I am willing to point of verses
Stop lying, ur not a Catholic. For the love of God, plz be honest.
Not, it's not Biblical. Bible says people are in heaven. Rev. 6:9
@@essafats5728 I am a catholic
@@CatholicTruthOfficial every heard of the keywords: Sheol, Gehenna, Hades
Those words have nothing to do with soul sleep. You need to learn the meaning of them, especially if you claim to be Catholic friend. They have to do with the waiting place in the Old Testament and where we get the English word today, Purgatory.
You make me laugh. :D
If you really want to “teach” people about what someone believes and what not, I suggest you to invite person who is representative of some belief.
I was raised as Roman Catholic believer and now I’m member of Seventh Day Adventist Church. And I know what I believe and what I don’t believe. ☺️
First you said that I believe in restored Church of Christ and that SDA Church is original Church. I don’t. ☺️
I know that you believe that you’re in original Church of Christ (whatever that means). Don’t you? 😅
And you believe that you’re right, don’t you? 🤭
You described yourself.
Doesn’t Roman Catholic Church believes in visions and divinely inspirations of some people (Anne Catherine Emmerich, Marie Martha Chambon, Bernadette Soubirous… etc. etc.)?☺️🤭You know that you believe that.
You described yourself.
But I know, you’re right and you’re member of original Church and I’m cultist.
SDA Church never predicted the date of Christ return. And I don’t believe in date predictions. Jesus said that no one knows the hour and the day.
But I firmly believe that Jesus will come second time as He promised!
And you want to make your listeners to believe that JW and Adventists are the same. 😅😂 I had many conversations with JW and we don’t agree with many fundamental beliefs of Christianity. Jesus is God in flesh! Eternal Son of God. That is clear teaching of the Bible and Jesus alone!
You can make apparent similarities of anything to anything. ☺️ I just read about similarities of communism and Catholicism in the Middle Ages.
Are they really the same because of some similarities? You know the answer. ☺️
But I know, you’re right and I’m cultist.
Do you think that apostoles and Jesus were obsessed with end times, because Jesus said 2000 years ago, that He will come soon?
Primary message is NOT end time! Primary message is JESUS alone! He is The Message, the way and the truth and the life!
You said that I believe in literal 144000 people, a governing body in heaven. I don’t. ☺️ Please invite someone representative to say to you what someone really believes! And you accused others to missrepresent Roman Catholic beliefs?
You described yourself, because you missrepresent others beliefs. 😒
Are you really honest? Or do you have some others motives? God knows your heart.
I hope that you don’t believe that because Jesus and his followers worship on Sabbath/Saturday that they were obsessed. 🤭 I don’t believe that you’re obsessed because you worship mainly and primarily on Sunday. ☺️
Roman Catholic Church is without evangelization literature? 🤭 You’re really funny.
But I know, you’re right and I’m cultist.
But I understand your “hatred”. Because I also “hated” all other people that weren’t Roman Catholics. I understand you. I know that you don’t even notice it. I also didn’t. But God’s Spirit can change your heart. I will pray for you. 🙏
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately, you left the true church of Jesus Christ for a sect that started in the 1800s like mormons and Jehovah's witnesses. Sad, they come on, most catholics who left the Faith had no idea what they believed before they left. Also, during that whole entire diatribe, you didn't point out anything that was wrong in the video. We showed how the 2 religions are very similar and have unique beliefs that very few others do. So there's no problem with the video. Unfortunately, we would never invite a 7th day Adventist on, because they are completely irrational. Only once forever on our pages are yelling at us, screaming at us, incapable of dialogue, condemning us to hell, calling us the anti Christ, and all of the rest of their anti-Catholic nutcase jargon.
The difference between visions and the Catholic Church and visions in those 2 religions are that the visions are had. Primarily by the founder, nobody in the Catholic Church claimed to have 12000 visions and traveled to other planets to meet old prophets like Ellen White did. To any rational person outside the Adventists, it's just ludicrous. At the mention, the adventists are probably of the worst religions to get factual correct, which is why we made two whole videos about their errors regarding Catholicism.
You keep saying that you don't believe this or that. But does not matter. What matter is what your religion teaches. For example, can you categorically say that the '144000 governing body' is not your church's teaching?
You practice a 'cafeteria' religion if you don't believe some of your church's teachings because you pick what you only want to believe.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial. I know that you believe that you’re the only true church. Such exclusivism is typical for many in the world. It’s not necessary bad as such, but when you believe that your organisation is the only and necessary for salvation that is very dangerous and leads to fanatism and to other dangerous thoughts and actions.
I know why I left Roman Catholicism and why I joined the SDA Church.
You wrote that I didn’t point out anything that was wrong. 😅 I will not repeat myself. Obviously you didn’t read my comment.
For you, I’m sectarian and completely irrational, incapable of dialogue, but Christ call me friend and brother. Christ gives me human value.
I was and I will pray for you. 🙏
@@IzidorPokrivacfollow history and you will confirm the truth that it is the only Church established by Jesus Christ himself.
Yes, we do believe the Catholic church is true. Otherwise, why would we be part of it? You make it sound like many churches can be correct. But Jesus only started one church, not many. He has but one body. And only one goes back 2000 years; the Catholic Church. You left the one true church that Jesus started for one that was started in the 1800s by a woman alongside hundreds and hundreds of others that were started in the 1800s but don't have the beliefs of the early Christians. You really think Jesus would wait 1800 years to make everything correct. That's the same argument Jehovahs witness make. Wow, a surprise haha. And Mormons make and Christian Scientists and the Church if Christ, etc.
You are a sectarian, but we still love you. SDAs are one of but thousands of churches that emerged in the 1800s. If that's not sectarianism, I don't know what is.
Make video on the church of Christ
We will
@@CatholicTruthOfficialthanks ,,,👍👍,,,, I will be waiting
My aunt has been in the JW cult for years and they bleed her dry of money, time, and thought. Please pray for her because she was a devout Catholic for a long time and I don't want to see her stay with those liars for the rest of her life.
I did not know J.W demand money or have fee's or even a collection box passed around, I thought it was all 'voluntary given' as one sees fit, or able discreetly...? I always saw that practice as a catholic duty you know, the bag is passed along the rows required by the richest religion on the planet?
@@matrix5062they used to be voluntary donations but the last decade they r really putting emphasis on giving 💰 more and more….. I can see the changes and recently left. That seriously when I first really understood I’m in a CULT try to leave peacefully…. You can’t and u loose ur loved ones. Our daughter no longer speaks to us…. Very sad indeed how powerful the brainwashing is and they justify it from the Bible!
So just keep your eyes on Jesus and study your Bible for yourselves.
Where does the Bible say that? It doesn't, it says listen to the church. Let's have the reason of why there are so many religions out there that all disagree and contradict each other.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
Why are you so aggressive?
What are you talking about?
It says all though the bible to feed off the Word of God and keep you eyes on our Lord Jesus brother.
The whole Bible points to Jesus!
God bless you.
We agree with you that it says that we should feed off the word of God. However, your error resides. In the fact that it doesn't only say that. Jesus also said listen to the apostles and their authority. Are you ignoring all of those Bible verses that I gave you? :)
People say that we should only go by the Bible, and our concern is that that's completely unbiblical and we want people to know that.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial your whole channel is based on division brother.
There is No error in keeping the Word of God.
Soul sleep is taught in the bible and was the belief of early Christianity and Judaism.
And I don't think you even spoke about Michael being Jesus.
True
Ironically we have a video coming out on that topic Sunday regarding the Jws.
Yeah how can it be that Gods name is jehovah,when the holy writings came from the hebrews,Israelites or Jews who are the same people whom God had chosen from all other nationalities and communicated to them of all the Holy writings that they had from God.And never ever read one part of the scriptures stating that God said to Moses that my name is jehovah,instead he said tell my people I Am That I Am!!!!!! Yeah Alleluia Hosanna In Excelsis Deo
exSDA to catholic convert here! Going through RCIA 🎉
Your vids are very educational
Use to be a jw now catholic actually my whole family was a catholic first my mom left the catholic church first because she didn't know the faith as well as she should have otherwise she wouldn't have left for a cult also jws are the split off group from charles Russell's Bible students jws split in 1931 joseph Rutherford took the name jehovahs witnesses at that time you are spot on as for there beliefs keep up the work you do
Thank you so much for sharing. God bless you!
I have family that have left their Catholic Faith and are now Jehova Witnesses, SDAs and other similar cults. It breaks my heart and pisses me off at the same time. They are very intelligent, well-read, etc but believe all this kookines.
But did they know their Catholic faith before they left? It would be hard to believe that people could leave their faith that they knew. Well, for a kookie religion that doesn't make sense. Although Jehovah's witnesses are pretty good at explaining it in a way that seems to make sense.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I thought they did. Not so sure anymore.
@@marcihf217. Don’t be sad. 🙈 I was also raised in Roman Catholic Church and Roman Catholic family. I wanted to be priest. I knew my Roman Catholic beliefs. I had many conversations with other priests. Now I’m also member of SDA Church. I still believe in the same God and Jesus as before. 🙈
At first it was shock for my family and community. I was labeled Satanist. But I know in my heart that I followed Jesus that lead me to where I’m now. Today we are in good relations with my family and other people with Roman Catholic background. We appreciate each other.
I know that the only Saviour is Jesus! Not institution or Church. Keep faith in Jesus. And yes, you can be also educated former Roman Catholic and now SDA. 🙈
Pray for them and yourself and don’t be affraid that they’re lost. 😇
March, Keep praying for them hard. And keep avangelizing them in love. As you know, catholics who leave the Faith didn't actually understand their Faith before they left, and so the first religion that came to their door wasn't easy sell. That's why we must challenge them. I almost lost my Faith once 2 to the Jehovah's witnesses but unlike most people who just run away quickly, I did a very deep study into the Catholic Faith and also the other religions as well just to make sure and I realized that the Catholic Church was the only true church of Jesus and the only one that goes back 2000 years.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thank you for the advice. 🥰❤