Seventh-Day Adventist: Facts & Fables with Pastor Doug Batchelor
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2018
- It's one of the fastest-growing Christian denominations in the world-the Seventh-day Adventist Church. But even as Adventists grow in influence and public awareness, especially recently, not much is known and many myths and legends about them abound. Pastor Doug Batchelor "clears the air" in this special video presentation.
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Pastor Doug, I enjoy your sermons immensely. I like you, would love to sit down face to face and have a discussion on your views concerning the Sunday law and how they would come about in these last days. Just as you would love to talk to any minister on our beliefs as Seventh Day Adventist, I would love to discuss the last day events. Who knows maybe the Lord will open a path for the conversation. But it is of great concern to me. As an Adventist myself we hold all things in common in Jesus Christ our Lord. Wonderful New Heart Series you and staff have put out. Thank you so much. I have been very blessed in appreciation for God's guidance in your efforts and wish continued success in the Lord.
@Doug Batchelor Doug Batchelor, you state that the SDA never predicted a date for the second coming. Didn't Ellen White follow the movement that predicted. Didn't she, herself, state that in this scenario:
E.G. White prophesied the world would end in 1843, 1844, 1845 and 1851 : "Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." (Early Writings, p.57). AND "Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters which gave us the day and hour of Jesus coming. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Spirit." (Vol.1, p.59) NOTE: In this reference Mrs. White claims that the Lord gave her the day and hour of His coming. In Matthew 24:36, Jesus said, " But of that day and hour knoweth no man , no, not the angels in heaven, but my Father only ."
I am a true believer in going to church on Saturday because of Jesus example and because of the 10 commandments. I also am a true believer that Christ will come back as he promised. But I emphatically don't believe that Ellen White was a true prophetess of God. NO TRUE PROPHET OF GOD PREDICTS INCORRECTLY. THE SCRIPTURE TELLS US " If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him" (Deuteronomy 18:20-22,
@@RictorHeidi Dear friend, clearly you have taken Ellen Whites words out of context. It is true that Ellen White proclaimed the "world will end", but she never gave a date nor a time. Even today Adventist believe the world is going to end and end soon, that Jesus is even at the door. This has always been the belief of Adventist and Ellen White also. There is no "time" predicted on when that day will be. Secondly, while Ellen White was in vision and taken down to the end of time just before the second coming of Christ, she spoke of God's people who would witness Jesus's second coming after they had gone through the great time of trouble, after the time of Jacobs trouble, and the enemies of God were about to thrust forward and kill God's children. Then she describes that very moment and time, and references what was happening in both nature and the visible portents of Christ's coming. She mentions the darkness, the light breaking through every now and then, she mentions God's people looking up and then the earthquake and thunders that rolled through the atmosphere of heaven; in all this commotion she then says that they, the children of God, understood what those rolling peels of loudest thunder meant to them, that it was God's voice announcing the "day and the hour" of His coming. She also goes on to describe the wicked who sought to kill God's children as not being able to hear any of the words that God was speaking to His people. I think that maybe you should re-read early writings and compare them with other writings by Ellen White when she speaks of that same event. And carefully understand that she did not say she understood the "day or the hour" in her time, or that she knew the day or hour as God spoke it then, but those in the last day understood that God spoke the day and hour through the great peels of thunder to His people just before Christ's coming. To this day, Ellen White has never referred to any "day or hour" of God's announcement in any of her writings, none. Not once has she ever said what was heard by the voice of God at that moment. But only that those who heard it, understood the words of God's pronouncement of the day and hour. She was in vision, remembering seeing the things that would take place at a future time. She was not there literally, nor has she ever mentioned, or stated that "she" understood in her time the words that God spoke proclaiming the day or the hour. Only those alive in that future time and under those last hour moments in earth's history understood what God had told them. "The voice of God is heard from heaven, declaring the 'day and the hour' of Jesus coming, and delivering the everlasting covenant to His people. Like peals of loudest thunder His words roll through the earth. The Israel of God stand 'listening', with their eyes fixed upward. Their countenances are lighted up with His glory, and shine as did the face of Moses when he came down from Sinai. The wicked cannot look upon them. And when the blessing is pronounced on those who have honored God by keeping His Sabbath holy, there is a mighty shout of victory." GC. page 640. Moreover, she explains often 'why' the hour and day must be kept secret, because if people knew, they would neglect to prepare, and this is obviously God's intent. What good is knowing the day and trying to prepare in the last minute? It would save no one. The work would never have gotten done, characters would never have been formed for heaven, the work in daily trials and overcoming would be put off till the end if ever done at all if the day was many years in the future. There is so much to do now, both in good works, spreading the gospel, caring for the poor, indigent, the widow, the fatherless, and all charity. All these things that form character worthy of heaven, would all be put off and neglected. Man knows not the hour of His coming. We could die tomorrow or next week, then what of character? If put off waiting for 'that day' if all knew when it would be. All these things Ellen White admonished because she did not know the day or the hour, but was impressed and informed of the lack of character we all have that needs to be transformed by the indwelling spirit of Christ before its too late. Get ready! Get ready! Get ready! was her cry to us all.
Thank you Doug for faithfully and truthfully showing others what the Bible says about Seventh Day Adventist’s. God bless.
@@jamesbarfield6870 ADVENTISTS Derek Prince on the definition of a parable: QUOTING
It’s good to be with you again at the beginning of a new week, sharing with you Keys to Successful Living, which God has placed in my hand through many years of personal experience and Christian ministry.
The title for my talks this week is “The Sheepfold.” It will help you to answer a very difficult, but also very important question: Who really are God’s people in this world? This picture of God’s people is found in a parable of Jesus in John 10.
But before we turn to the actual words of Jesus, it will be helpful to say a word about the nature and purpose of a parable. One of the great problems that we all have in apprehending spiritual truth is that we are tied to our senses. We tend to believe only those things which we see and feel and hear and touch and taste. *We think that these are the real things and it’s difficult for us to comprehend or to see the reality of things in another order. And yet we’re not really correct in saying that the things that we apprehend with our senses are the real things: they’re not. The things which are truly real and truly important are spiritual. And they are not apprehended by our senses.*
Let me just put before you some words of Paul on this subject. In 2 Corinthians 4:18:
*“So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen in eternal.”* (NIV) So what Paul is saying *is just the opposite of what we tend to think by nature.* He’s saying what *we can see is only temporary. It doesn’t last, it’s not permanent. It’s not fully real. But the fully real things are unseen. And he says we fix our eyes on what is not seen.* Again, a little further on in the same letter of Paul, 2 Corinthians 5:7, he says: “We live [or we walk] by faith, not by sight” (NIV). How can we fix our eyes on what is unseen. There is a deliberate paradox there, isn’t it? You can’t see the unseen. But the paradox is deliberate. *Paul is saying, “We’ve got to learn to think differently. The truly real things are the spiritual things that we don’t see.”*
Now, one way that the Bible helps us in this matter is through parables. *The parable is a story or a picture of something familiar, material, that everybody at the time of Jesus knew about, but its real truth is not in the natural or the material, it’s in the spiritual.* And everything in the natural corresponds to something else in the spiritual. *And so, the parable becomes a kind of MIRROR reflecting the spiritual and the unfamiliar.* In this way we proceed from the known to the unknown, *which is one of the basic principles of good teaching. And Jesus, of course, was the perfect teacher.* *NOW READ LUKE 16:19-31* LUKE 16:19-31 KJV - There was a certain rich man, which was - Bible Gateway*NOW READ LUKE 16:19-31*
*NOW READ LUKE 16:19-31*
The thing I love about pastor Doug is his truth message,but it is spoken with kindness and love 🙏❤️ I have fallen away from my love Jesus for years,I'm heartbroken,but because of me listening to this message and other videos I have from my brother Doug I'm going tomorrow to the local 7th Day Adventist Church to Fully Surrender my live to Jesus Again ... I know our Dear Heavenly Father Is Already Running Down The Path To Meet Me 🙏❤️😊 Lots Of Love To All ❤️
Sda is the most biblical church I've seen ✔💯
only because you don't know the scripture.
@@billclass5847 You don't know the Scripture.
@@JustinDAMusic You don't know of what you speak, my friend. It's you that doesn't know the scriptures.
Larry The Lobster. Amen i also agree because out of All religous groups, SDA Group is the closest to the bible due to my research in the scripture. And thats why i chose to be a part of the Sda movement because i believe salvation isnt a joke, we cannot serve God how we want to, its how God wants us to serve him. So im a proud Sda striving to live sinfree by the Grace of God🙏🏽. God deserves Total obedience not half way/lukewarmness Amen. God bless you
@C.D. Martins No, it's because you don't know the scriptures and some cult deceived you. Let's be honest. There is no such thing as sola scriptura, it's a pure fable scam to convince others they don't form their own opinion based on a very limited amount of knowledge. You don't fool God with that stuff.
I share the same reasons. I joined the Seventh-Day Adventist because it follows and teaches what the Bible says.
As an African Adventist Baha’i, there are no adequate words to express my gratitude to the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Due to my upbringing as Adventist, I revere Jesus Christ & His example of love. Also, I take healthful living seriously. Joining the Baha’i Faith’s community has only intensified my affection for the Adventist teachers who instilled in me a sense of sacred. I am the result of the message of Adventists & the example of its members. My adoration for Christ draws me towards Adventists & all Christians.
I started going to a SDA in April and was baptised Sept 17. I love this church and the people are so welcoming. They follow the Bible and we follow the ten commandments. We don't eat pork and worship on Sat. I am so glad God led me the way to this church.. praise God always.
You will not be saved if you eat pork or if you do not worship on Saturday?
What you eat or don’t eat is not a salvation issue. It’s a health issue.
@@tailiu223 check your spelling.
Amen. Praise God. I was baptized Saturday the 26th in SDA church.
10 - 3 - 23
Two days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I went to many churches and did not understand a word of the bible till i met the sda now i understand so much more Saturday is my Sabbat day i was BAPTISE in the Sda 6years now not sorry for a moment will die a Sda stay strong God Bless
The bible gets the feelings of his translators for that reason Wycliffe Bible is the most trustable
When I was a child I always passed the 7th day church on Sunday while walking to church on Sunday, it was not occupied. I'm happy to learn about your church
Lol why would it be occupied on Sunday
I want to thank you for your teaching about the 7th Day Adventist. I am very much interested in finding a local church and checking it out. I am a God fearing child of God who is disabled and would like to attend Church when able. Today I'm even more interested after listening to your sermon. Thank you and God Bless!!
Hi Jerry! Did you find a church?
GODBLESS YOU friend
Hi Jerry, what area are you in? God bless you 🙏
@Doug Batchelor
I have known God for 20 plus years, but I kept falling away to sin. I was baptized a catholic, but stopped believing (not entirely of course) because of the abominations done to people at the pope’s behest. I felt betrayed, hurt, and disgusted at their hypocrisy. This is when I found you online. I have listened to many sermons by many preachers, you are my favourite!!! God keeps redirecting me to your sermons and a couple others. I enjoy yours the most because of the gentle discipline your voice administers. Thanks be to God for you, and may He bless you always.
Hello Mia, and thank you for your message! We invite you to email us at snunez@amazingfacts.org, we would like to be in contact with you to hear more about your testimony. It is wonderful to hear how the Lord is working in your life. May He continue to bless and guide you in to all truth.
- The Amazing Facts team
The more Adventist you become the more sin, you will do. you will lay sin upon sin and never escape it. You will become blinded to your sin, and pretend that Sabbath keeping will be enough. Even then, you will never keep the Sabbath, but in the depths of hypocrisy you will tell everyone you do. Mountains of sin will bury you because you walked away from the Grace of God.
You are not alone. Even we who grew up in the church have our struggles. Praise the Lord that He has given us the Bible and taught us to pray! He will give us the victory.
@@marvinmeeker584 *How many millions have died, blessing, praising and thanking God for their false teachers and false prophets which taught them.* Christ warned MANY false prophets would come and deceive MANY. Be it known unto you this day, the Adventists and their like, have made you a victim.
Pastor I am very much greatful for Your sermons!! Very uplifting and I am very Greatful to Our Heavenly Father for a classmate who invited me to hear the Heritage Singners and also a Pastor who was having an Evangelistic Series and at the of the series I was baptize. I use to go to a Presbyterian Church in my country with my Family!! I am so happy to be part of God's family that want to obey HIS COMMANDMENTS AND PROCLAIM THE GOOD NEWS THAT JESUS IS COMING SOON TO RESCUE US FROM THIS VERY POLLUTED WORLD!!
God bless this programme may it reach far and wide. In Jesus name Amen.🙏🕊❤💒
ive learned alot from doug batchelor
And hopefully even more from the Bible 😊🙏🏼
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Me too !! I thank God for this ministry!! ❤️
@@babel1980adam look, bumkis, we don't worship Pastor Doug. We do, however, love how he explains it to us. So why don't you ninkompoops get a better carp! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@babel1980adam you're so pompous to assume we don't! 🥺🙄🙄
I really wanna thank you Pastor Doug for this video
I have watched this so many times. Happy to be a SDA and still learning. ❤
You want to learn more ? I have posted 24 different Adventist beliefs that is rooted in the Bible each one about 1:30 hours. If you watch that then you can answer anyone that attacks SDA church.
@@Sirder Yes, I am interested.
@@vettaj9752 Ok I am glad to hear how can I give you the link without any one else to see .
This was very informational. Everything he stated I was taught. I was listening and it felt like 15 mins. I really enjoyed hearing about my religion. I am so happy.
Doug is a Fantastic Teacher of the Bible. Love you Brother.
I thank you pastor Doug for your desription of our beliefs which is very very important for us SDA-ist to explain practically to others who we really are.
Praise the Lord, blessed be the Lord o' my soul. Hallelujah! Amen😇🤍🙏
This is my very first Seventh Day Adventist sermon that I have watched. Thank you for this introduction. The only Bible that I use is the KJV. No commentary or references. Sola Scriptura.
Welcome! Thank you for your comment. May God bless you as you study His word. - The Amazing Facts team
Praise God for you! Praying for you.
Very good work thank you watching from SouthAfrica 🙏🙏🙏😘
Thank you, Pastor Doug! Really needed
Thank you the sermon! I am glad to be able to watch this!
I learned a lot from you pastor Doug 👏🙏
Praise the Lord! May God bless and guide you on your walk with Him.
- The Amazing Facts team
Grateful for your sermons.
Glad to hear this. Every time I say I am Adventist I take a deep breathe because so many confuse us J witness
We are not saved by our works; we are saved because Christ died. But works are important. We are judged by our works . Works are evidence of our loyalty.
Thank you so much for this pastor 🙏🏾
Oh my gosh I’m in tears… my testimony is similar to this pastor. I’m 59 and have been a part of several churches as I moved and I prayed and prayed for the Lord to please show me THE TRUTH, because I couldn’t figure out who was right!! The DOOR SWUNG OPEN and God guided me to the SDA! 🙌🏼❤️… A few years ago he convicted me of Sat Sabbath…. So it all just pulled together!
I prayed for truth about a year ago and God is showing me new truth every day and I can’t get enough. SDA is truth. Keep searching the world, God bless you.
@@MichaelMckamieHunger4truth WORD right?
@@MichaelMckamieHunger4truth that’s so cool Michael… glad you are on board. Is there a SDA in your area? I have one close by that I’m thinking about visiting.
Yes I have one in my town and three more about thirty miles away. I have been to two of them so far.
The first time I heard Seventh day Adventist, is when I signed up scuba diving classes where I lived still live the same town this was the year 83 or 84. So the class was I think about seven or eight persons. I am Armenia and the other person that was Armenian also was Seventh day Adventist. But I didn’t know that until after two months of classes we were gone go do open dive in the ocean, this person he’s name was Graig said he can’t go because he keep the Sabbath Holy. Because it was two days event Saturday and Sunday. Pastor Doug has been in the church this person use to belong to. And if I tell you how I became Adventist. You See how GOD works in miraculous ways.
Thank you Pastor Doug you have been such an encouragement and truthful Minister to so many people around you world I pray that God keep you safe and keep on preaching God's word 🙏
This is my first time watching a vid from this guy, but he’s good 👍🏻
I converted to Judaism from Pentecostalism. I had a problem with what they taught vs what the tanakh said. I have a problem refuting what you teach. Keep up the good work 👍
Let the holy spirit guide you into truth, open the power of the word and keep your heart open..
You mentioned Holy Spirit do they believe speaking in tongues?
@@gabbysgospel No, seventh day Adventists do not believe in speaking in tongues, meaning babel that no can understand or interpret.
Jesus promises: whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father and I too will love him and show myself to him. 14:21
Jesus replied. If anyone loves me he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him and we will come to him and make our home with him. John 14:21
I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe.
I really notice outside of the sda church is a lot of confusion.
Thank you pastor Doug.
I was raised a 3rd generation SDA who taught there is only one God, the Father, and Jesus Christ his only begotten son. In 2012 the Church “took a firm stand” and adopted the trinity into their tenets. Paul tells us in 2 Tim 4:3-4 The time will come when they shall NOT ENDURE sound doctrine but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears. And they shall turn their ears away from truth, and shall be turned unto fables (myths).
Thank you Pastor Doug!
I'm a Sunday worshiper but I believed in the 7day Sabbath I fellow the teaching of the Bible about Ssbbath I start to attend the SDA on.Sabbath ,. they're loving ❤️ and Caring and kind people .them.welcome you with a open Arms
Amen from Cape Town South Africa SDA
PLEASE PRAY FOR ME
Hope you are doing well, Charlie!
We are a commandment keeping people who believe in thus saith the Lord! Amen
2nd corinthians 3 6 for christ have made us able ministers of the new covenant not the letter which killeth but of the spirit which gives
Hebrews 8 13 BY CALLING THIS COVENANT NEW HE MADE THE FIRST OBSOLÈTE AND WAT IS OBSOLETE IS OUTDATED AND WILL PASS AWAY
@@charnelallan7159 you’re not making any sense! If you’re trying to tell me that the law of God is obsolete, you’re not making ANY sense, no matter what you quote from the Word of God.
@@TheHolyAvatior Hebrews 8 13
BY CALLING THIS COVENANT NEW HE MADE THE FIRST OBSOLÈTE AND WAT IS OBSOLETE IS OUTDATED AND WILL PASS AWAY
@@charnelallan7159 you’re using Hebrews to let me know that the Law of God, His holy laws that is His constitution, is now deleted? You are fooling yourself! Please read the word with sense. God’s law will never be obsolete! It’s stands forever. No matter what you quote still doesn’t give you any ground that the Law of God is obsolete. So if the law is abolished, so we can sin all we want, right? Please use your brain, think ! Peace be unto you! Please read the same chapter but look at verse 10. That will tell you what the new covenant is! God place His laws in our heats instead of on tablets of stones. That’s what the new covenant is!! Not His destroying His law?? Are you serious!? Why?
Thank You Pastor.
God Bless
My church💪💪
Amen and Amen 🙏🙌
Thank you pastor Doug
Amen
If you want to know how much a Seventh-Day Adventist is a Bible Christian, compare videos. For instance, go to one of Doug batchelors 12 minute videos and notice how many scriptures he uses in that time frame. I was watching One recently, "Can a non-Christian be saved". The video is a little over 12 minutes and contains about 20 scriptures to back up the claim. Now, go to most any other denomination and watch one of their hour long videos. They may use, what five scriptures during the whole sermon. The typical SDA sermon talks about scripture and uses scripture for its base. This is so with the foundational Seventh-day Adventist churches mostly. Foundational refers to those who still believe as the Pioneers did of our faith back in the 1800s. Maranatha!
Amen.
YES, TO YOU!!!
Pray that our flight will not come in winter or on the sabbath. Matthew 24:20
Jesus answered: My teaching is not my own it comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do Gods will he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. John 7:16-17
Jesus gave them this answer: I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
It's Saturday people, the Jews had it right all these years !
Saturday sunset to midnight is the 8th day of the week and that's not the Sabbath.
The Sabbath existed before there was a Jew. Read Genesis chp1.
@@a.lavernefilan1888 you are confusing the calendar wìth Biblical days. The Biblical Sabbath starts at sunset Friday not sunset Saturday.
@@a.lavernefilan1888 not sure where you learned about calendars but there aren't 8 day ones. Sabbath begins on sundown Friday night until sun set Saturday night.
I believe in most of this, the only thing I can't get behind is jesus being a seventh day Adventist. My main concern is putting him in a box. He is much greater than that
i beleive the sabbath is on saturday, but thats about it. but i like doug batchlor
@@porstmouthstreetpreachers7686 he is good, the Sabbath technically starts when the sun sets Friday and ends on sunset Saturday. It goes back to Genesis, first night and day, day one
@@jmhowell70 who is good, freind?
Jesus was Jewish. Jesus is God! Have a blessed day.
I am the good shepherd my sheep hear my voice and they follow me. Jesus said. I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned he has crossed over from death to life. Ask the Father if his teachings were spoken through Jesus?
Amen Amen!
I just watched that movie about Desmond Doss the other day. I am not a 7th Day Adventist, but in High school I had a friend who was....So I wanted to find out more about them. She told me No make up, No dancing, No pork. I understand the make up and pork, but I remember somewhere where David(?) was dancing in joy before the Lord. Will be checking out more of this to find out.
We don't believe in a worldly provocative type of dance.
@@johnriggs3143 quote---We don't believe in a worldly provocative type of dance. unquote
QUOTE the bible that says David was dancing provocatively.
God said NOTHING to David. But David's wife did. When she complained to David, of course God heard. His reply? Because you have complained about David's joyus dancing to my glory, you will never have a child. (She was baren) . She never got pregnant.
@@mitchellosmer1293 David rejoiced and danced, but not provocatively! Do you even know what it means? Its definition is to Angrily or Sexually display displeasure or sexual pleasure. David did neither one when rejoicing.
@@johnriggs3143 quote--- David rejoiced and danced, but not provocatively! Do you even know what it means? unquote
VERY OBVIOUS you Mis-understood my comment!!!
I NEVER said David danced provocatively!
HIs wife complained to him that his underbody was showing (no underwear) when he went up the steps. Gods was angry at her. She had been barren and because of her complaint, she remained barren.
--provocatively
#1---in a way that causes anger or another strong reaction, especially deliberately.
"she argued provocatively that business owners should put profit before passion"
#2---in a manner intended to arouse sexual desire or interest.
"you don't need to dress provocatively to attract attention".
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@@mitchellosmer1293 True, but I stand by my first comment, we don't believe in a provocative nature as SDAs.
I remember reading about a 19th century preacher who would keep sulfur in his pocket and while describing the fires of hell would drop some and trample it. His congregation would say his description was so graphic that they could actually smell it!
Let me tell you a true story. There was a young man who was on a college football team as the quarterback now this team was always ranked in the top 10 in most national rankings the coach put him down as a second string quarterback and he became angry and he left the school. When he left he took the playbook of all the plays that the team used offensively and defensively. He went to a new school and became the starting quarterback. As it turned out this boys team faced his old team in a bowl game. His coach had the playbook. Now this boy was an excellent quarterback he had the other teams play book the coach knew it and yet in that ball game they lost 48 to 0. So even with the playbook he was not successful. The other team just had more talent more determination and a very good coach. Now it is also the truth you are in possession of God’s playbook the Bible and even if you have it you don’t know how to use it. You have to be inspired by the Holy Spirit and he ain’t doing it.
Pastor Doug looks nice in this suit.🤩
Facts
I like to see him debate William Bell on the book of revelation.
Thank God 89
Sad last Sabbath our sda pastor claimed Pastor Doug to be legalist...😞
Praying of our local church's pastors and leaders. God keep us all.
A SDA pastor said another SDA pastor is a legalist??
Hahahaha
Go to another church!
When we die our body will to dust and our spirit will return to God Who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12: 7. At death Jesus nailed to the cross all the confessed sins of the believers in Him, and said” it it finished”, it is nor partially done it was ended. No more.finished.
Por favor (please) colocar legenda ou dublar em PORTUGUÊS do Brasil!
If one's job makes it impossible to get to church services on Saturday, which Sunday church denomination is the second-best in the eyes of SDA?
Absolutely non. It's either you observe the Sabbath or burn in hell. That's pretty much what they say without saying it. This church is cult based. There doctrines seems convincing but are based of "works" which the Bible doesn't support for salvation. They would deny it but their attitude and actions says otherwise.
@Charles Dada
Hey! Great question. Speaking fron personal experience -the best thing to do in this case is to honor God and His word. Take this issue up in prayer and ask God to open a door for you at your job that allows you to be faithful to God with The Sabbath.
Be active with this. Look for what other options you have. Some jobs are very accommodating and don't require much, but in the case that is impossible with man, that's ok, it's possible with The LORD.
He says in Psalms 37:4 delight yourself in The LORD first, and He will give you the desire of your heart.
Yaaaahn. 🥱
I would like to hear you on this actually. If I break down what you've Said in this content of the video in what I believe are contradicting points of the Bible and occurances of the history in particular to Ellen's contradictions within her words and behaviors, would you be willing to state your position in view and possibly articulate my fallacies objectively with the Bible? Your response will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
In relying on the Bible alone you can be misled. The reason is there was a significant church before the Bible was even assembled approximately the beginning of the fifth century. How did the entire Roman empire become Christian before the Bible was constructed. It happened through the church which Saint Ignatius of Antioch referred to as the Catholic Church he died in 107AD. During the time before the Bible the church relied on councils to determine right from wrong and Christian and catholic doctrines the first few councils are in the book of acts. There we discover that Gentiles did not have to follow Jewish law. No circumcision no dietary restrictions none of those old 613 laws . Also during this time especially in the very first century while St. John the apostle was still alive Christians used to meet in the synagogues and riots
occurred because they were both celebrating their weekly service in the same building. So councils were formed and they ruled through
the Holy Spirit instead of using Saturday as a day of worship to use Sunday as the day of worship honoring the resurrection of Jesus. And so from the first century on all Christians have celebrated the Lords day on Sunday. Do you see why using the Bible only you are narrow minded as to 😢 church history and councils councils came before the Bible the church came from the Councils and even the Bible says the pillar of truth is the church. Now I always watch your programs on television I enjoyed them until recently a matter of fact yesterday when you said some terrible things about the Catholic Church. In the book of Job God threw out Satan for being an accuser and that’s what you are starting to be an accuser of the Catholic Church which was started by Jesus when he gave Peter the keys to the kingdom the ability to bind and To loose. Why do you think every time Simon Peter is mentioned in the Bible they refer to him as Simon Peter Simon the rock A rock is
Neuter it is not masculine or feminine. Learn your grammar objects are
neuter human beings and animals are male or female. It is only second time that God change the name of a human being for 18:43 specific purpose. Don’t be Lucifer don’t accuse because if you do you will be admonished. One last very important point you use the Bible as your sole source of doctrine. So do other Protestant churches use the Bible as their sole source of doctrine therefore there are 50,000 Protestant denominations using the same Bible to determine their own doctrines. How can that be there is only one Holy Spirit That guides Christianity there is not 50,000 holy spirits just one. So what appears to be is a completion of Jesus who said a house divided against itself will soon fall. It is also evident. That you don’t even follow the Bible but make your own doctrins. It sounds and is clear that your church was started by Lucifer and he’s doing a good job too. Remember Lucifer knows the Bible Word for Word. That is why you need a church and an authority to interpret scripture. You ain’t it.
I don't eat pork, I don't worship mary nor do I pray to mary. When I Pray, I Pray to Father God through King Jesus Christ (I ask King Jesus Christ to whisper my Prayer in Father God's "ear").
Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.”
The Jewish celebration of
Sabbath (Shabbat) begins at sundown on Friday evening and lasts until sundown on Saturday.
Catholic,
Protestant, and Orthodox Christians go to church on Sunday, treating it as the Lord’s Day instead of Saturday to honor the day Christ rose from the dead.
The old covenant.
The Sabbath it’s not a Jewish day everybody calls it a Jewish day and Jewish holidays when they are Biblical feast and the Sabbath is a biblical set aside day that God prescribed at the beginning of time those are his days the Jews are the only ones that keep it
You can’t read that in the scripture that Jesus said to change the 7th day Sabbath to 1st day of the week because it’s my resurrection.
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I agree, the closest church I want to be at is at the foot of Jesus......first class seatings.
Do not give Holy things unto dogs or casts your pearl before swines least they trample them under their feet and turned against you and rend you. Amen.
With regard to everlasting torment, I see Scripture to say exactly this with regard to the devil, the beast, and the false prophet in Revelation 20:10.
We see similar words in Rev. 14:9-12 from the 3rd Angel for any man who worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or on his hand...
In the Geneva Bible of the Reformers, in the chapter titles given in Psalms 49, which are not Scripture, the Reformers say "everlasting torments" for judged worldly misers.
Am I missing something? Why do the Adventists say not eternal torment for the damned specifically mentioned here?
Ezekiel 28:19 says the devil will be brought to ashes and never shall he be anymore, for anyone to think or believe that Christ would completely destroy the Father of sin yet burn unbelievers for eternity is not rational.
@johnriggs3143 I don't understand your comment. One says no torment, yet Scripture says torment. I'll stick with Scripture. I thought Adventist's did also. So, why are they saying something that is opposite what Scripture plainly says, or am I missing something here? Also, what does rational have to do with God's words. It is man that is irrational, and thinks they have reason, which is opposite God's will.
Throughout Scripture, God tells us the wicked will be punished severely if they don't change their ways. It's a promise. Those who reject God are sent a strong delusion. I think God's words are very clear and substantial on this point. Why teach, assume, or reason otherwise?
This may help you. Review Luke 16:19-31; the story from Jesus of the rich man and the beggar, Lazarus, and Abraham.
What would you think if thos man will not talk to am old SDA friend? Yep!
Eight Day Adventists church, ( first Day Adventists) . Read LEVITICUS 23. The whole chapter. And decipher, the whole convercation.
Doug says there will be no eternal hell and torment for people. Be cautious on what they preach.
Hell is the grave.
How is it fallen angels leave most alone? Fallen one third have taken most of my things but not most christians have this issue.
Because most Christians follow churchianity they’re not actual Christians they’re all feel good people so the devil doesn’t have to bother them
Margaret Briley
Listen up, I've got a story to tell
About the Great Disappointment, and what it means to dwell
In a world of truth, where Ellen's words are pure
She's got prophecy too, and her message is sure
Never say you're saved, don't make that mistake
Christ died for your past sins, but your future's up for stake
Investigative judgment, it's a time to face the truth
Christ is still working, to fix all your mistakes
Ellen's words are true, and her teachings are clear
She's a voice of reason, in a world filled with fear
She's always been there, to guide us on our way
And her words will always, be with us every day
Never say you're saved, don't make that mistake
Christ died for your past sins, but your future's up for stake
Investigative judgment, it's a time to face the truth
Christ is still working, to fix all your mistakes
The Great Disappointment, it's a time to reflect
On the path we've chosen, and the choices we neglect
It's a time to repent, and turn to Christ our King
And in His grace, our future we can bring
Never say you're saved, don't make that mistake
Christ died for your past sins, but your future's up for stake
Investigative judgment, it's a time to face the truth
Christ is still working, to fix all your mistakes
So don't be discouraged, and don't lose hope
With Christ by your side, you can learn to cope
And never say you're saved, until the end of time
With Christ working to fix your mistakes, you'll always shine.
You are mm y pastorruth
Thanks for the great messages I want to let you know adventist medical care is the expensive more than the Catholic medical service even the education sector why they make business to the top pay their workers the lowest why
Dear Pastor Doug Bachelor: I agree with most all of your teachings and beliefs; however, I cannot find TRUTH in that which is taught about SATURDAY! Jesus kept a Lunisolar Calendar, given by His Father at Sinai; the FOURTH COMMANDMENT OF THE TEN! You and I know about the changes from LuniSolar to Solar deity Julian, and then 1000 years later generally, the Gregorian Calendar, which has no part of the LuniSolar Calendar which began with the NEW MOON DAY, a different day of the week of that calendar, all on its own, as numbers of burnt offerings obviates. If this were not the case, I would not still be keeping the Lunisolar calendar, and the Sabbaths found in so keeping! I cannot find locally anyone within your denomination who will speak to me on this topic, for we both know, Sabbath days under the LuniSolar calendar CHANGE, but not only were the Hebrews - lastly the Jews - living this way, but most importantly, Jesus Christ walked in this same calendar, although because He was the Son, our Saviour, His sinless life differed from the leaders of the Jewish Sanhedrin in many ways on their Sabbaths. We know who changed this 4th commandment's calendar: Constantine, and his son, Constantius! Why then does the Church you speak for, walk after the orders of these two Emperors, when NOTHING about the days "Saturn's Day and Sun'sDay" mean anything to true Bible believers. We are taught to walk in the footsteps of Christ, and He did not walk in a Solar deity Calendar, and yet, all true believers are to walk in Christ's manner, Who sinned not. PEOPLE need to know why Adventists follow the Roman Way as to the true calendar, when all else concerning her teachings, are surely incorrect, but after the spiritual enemy's commands? I keep the LuniSolar calendar, because a student of the Scriptures, and want to live eternally that I might live with Father, Son and all of the angels, and all of the saints who have been saved from eternal death. Thak you for your answer, and bless you and your people!
If you take the Bible literally and believe we "sleep" in the grave after death, why did Jesus tell the man on the cross next to him that he would be with him in paradise "today"?
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He did not say that he would be with him today, he said I say to you today, that is he spoke to him that day. you have to learn the language of the Hebrew to understand what you’re reading you cannot go by your English translation. Yeshua was in the grave for three days so there is no way the man could have been with him
All.who think.that when.jesues return.he and gathered up all Nation.in.his kingdom.,, worship Not goin to take place on Sunday the 1st day ,, it goin be on the Sabbath day,,, the Bible said that in ISAIAH ,,, God Said all Nation.will Come before him.worship him.on.that Sabbath day
You will know them by their fruits.
The foundational truth is belief is Love of LORD God and neighbour, and belief in Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah.
It is written; .. ever studying but not getting to understand, sees their eye are blind & ears deaf.
It is sad that majority of all protestant denominations are offshoots of their mother, the Roman Catholic Church.
All are now following man made doctrines and ceased following the doctrine of Jesus Christ the Son of God, the LORD and creater of heaven and earth.
I live in an Adventist community, great people, but SDA started with a false prophecy, continued with a false prophet, and proclaims a false gospel. If you get away from their false prophets addition to scripture, and just read the Bible, you will see the True Gospel of Jesus. God bless you on your journey.
Doug Batchelor, you state that the SDA never predicted a date for the second coming. Didn't Ellen White follow the movement that predicted. Didn't she, herself, state that in this scenario:
E.G. White prophesied the world would end in 1843, 1844, 1845 and 1851 : "Now time is almost finished, (1851) and what we have been 6 years in learning they will have to learn in months." (Early Writings, p.57). -AND- "Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters which gave us the day and hour of Jesus coming. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Spirit." (Vol.1, p.59) NOTE: In this reference Mrs. White claims that the Lord gave her the day and hour of His coming. In Matthew 24:36, Jesus said, " But of that day and hour knoweth no man , no, not the angels in heaven, but my Father only ."
I am a true believer in going to church on Saturday because of Jesus example and because of the 10 commandments. I also am a true believer that Christ will come back as he promised. But I emphatically don't believe that Ellen White was a true prophetess of God. NO TRUE PROPHET OF GOD PREDICTS INCORRECTLY. THE SCRIPTURE TELLS US " If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him" (Deuteronomy 18:20-22,
heidi rictor Hello Hedi, Please watch this video it answers your question. About 20 seconds into the video it quotes Ellen White speaking about this topic.
@@stepstochrist4820 what video? You didn't add a video to watch and the video I've comment on doesn't address it.
heidi rictor I cannot find that quote, I’am interested as to the context of this quote. So if you can link it for me I would really appreciate it. The context of why she said this, I think is crucial.
@@stepstochrist4820 I'm a bit confused by your question. Plus you didn't answer my question. You stated for me to watch a video that answers my question yet you didn't provide a link for said video. Additionally, every quote from my original question came with backing as to where to find it in either Ellen White's books or the Bible. Blessings
heidi rictor I tried looking for the quote you stated but I can’t find it
14:10 you've stated that hopefully you all know bible and history.. what does the context of what you were talking about have anything to do with the Bible? Ellen Gould Harmon absolutely did set the date of the second coming of Christ btw, fyi.
Oh brother~! You are saying that Ellen did not teach that for those that worship on Sundays are tide to Mark of the beast?
Some go to church just so they will get a church service when they die.Thats what one couple said.Sad.
Where are Elijah and Enoch?
According to the scriptures they should be the only two that has been risen off of the Earth before death and brought up to the throne room
sabbath is jesus Matthew 12
read the whole chapter
they will pick and choose parts of the bible to miss direct you read gospel and the letters they tell a different story. We are not under law but grace . Live by the law you are judge by the law. Romans 2 12
Yes he is Lord of the Sabbath but he never told you to quit keeping it it is something he always kept and so did his disciples
Why do different some SDA have different diets ?
Because there is freedom in Christ. 😁😁😁
@@musicmanucsj what happened to be of one mind and Spirit.
@@musicmanucsj so cults have freedom in Christ SDA JW LDS ect....
Because we have free will ❤
@ 3:00-3:29 Doug quotes a little girl that tells the truth about what Adventist' teach about Catholics and the crowd laughs, because they know it's true. Doug doesn't deny it, just says he was worried about "public image" .
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I think you didn't get the joke. This is to debunked the myths about Adventism. One of which is that we hate Catholics.
He did say he didn't know if this actually happened or not, but it was not meant to be taken literally.
I've heard this joke being told so many times, for so long.
And it's funny, not because it's true, but because of people who are looking from the outside to criticize rather than to know and understand, they hear an SDA talking about the papacy and end time prophecy and they quickly go "oh they hate catholics!"
I've never heard anyone say the reformers hated catholic believers, everyone understood they loved the church, wanted to reform it and were against what the papacy was doing. They literally preach the papacy is the antichrist and no one ever says they hated Catholics.
@@joelrios4051 What a bunch of nonsense. No one would ever dung you all say about Catholics that you all do. You call them every foul name ever imagined from an evil heart and murderous heart. I watched a video of Doug Batchelor helping this poor girl be saved from the "pagan sun worship" of the Catholics. When I pointed it out, they quickly took it off RUclips. You all openly profess "Sunday worship is the mark of the Beast" Which is to imply we worship SATAN. The whole idea behind this Adventist Sabbath keeping stuff is pure marketing and a shameful scam. The Adventist know they don't keep the Sabbath according to the commandment. Moreover, Jesus and 10 commandments are *no more* than a tool to get you to join the SDA. They will do anything to get you to join the SDA .
You all make every false promise in order to get members, including the following:
* The promise of a Seal of God * IF they keep the Sabbath.
* A promise of escaping the tribulation, no where promised to the Adventist's in scripture.
* A promise that they can automatically claim to keep the 10 commandments, when they know it isn't true.
* A promise of winning a free ticket to be one of the 144, 000.
* A promise that God will never leave the Adventist Church, nowhere found in the bible.
* A promise of Eternal life for being Sabbath keepers.
* A promise of a rapture of the Adventist church, nowhere found in scripture.
The Adventist use every trick in the book to get you to join! Everlasting shame on these people!
To gain acceptance, and a following, the Adventist's will say anything! They will tell you, that "Oh we believe lot's of people who don't keep the Sabbath will be saved" , when the teach is the same sin a murder and worshiping Satan.
The Adventist will tell you they believe in salvation through Christ alone, what they don't say in that is that they mean as long as you are a Sabbath keeping Jew, as Christ was.
The Adventist will say, "Oh we love the Catholics" , while they call them Satan Worshipers.
The Adventist will say, they do good on the Sabbath day, when what they really mean, is they break the Sabbath commandment and do and speak all manner of evil against Christianity in order to exalt themselves.
Like the 10 commandments, For all this bluster and bovarism by the Adventists and others about Sabbath keeping, THEY DON’T keep the Sabbath either. They just SAY they do!
Haters aren't going to heaven, only those who love ye one another.....I don't hate anyone....but learned love concurs All! Bye the way you are loved!
And which denomination do you subscribe to, “pastor”.?
I am an ex Seventh Day Adventist and I quit because the SDA puts Ellen White's writings above God's word Let's summarizing the essential facts of Ellen's injury from a medical standpoint, one finds the following:
At age nine, Ellen received a projectile-type blunt injury to the nasal area of the face and fell to the ground.
She was immediately unconscious.
There was severe and prolonged bleeding, and she was carried to a nearby store.
After a brief interval of consciousness, she becomes unconscious again; this lasted for some three weeks.
When she regained consciousness, she had no recollection of what had taken place.
She noticed that her face was markedly deformed at that time.
After regaining consciousness, she was confined to bed for "many weeks" and was reduced "almost to a skeleton."
Any neurologist will tell you that this would cause seizures and the seizures caused hallucinations or "visions" as you would call them. She wasn't a prophet. She was just a human being with a severe head injury.
Adventistism to me is like Job's friends trying to explain why Sunday keeping Christians are wrong, only for the Lord almighty to rebuke them in the end.
More like the other way around. Your insights mean nothing without Biblical evidence.