"Weapons in the Church" with Doug Batchelor (Amazing Facts)
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2020
- "Weapons in the Church" with Doug Batchelor (Amazing Facts)
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This is why I am a Seventh Day Adventist. Common sense reigns in the Word of God. Thank you Pastor Batchelor
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AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE WE WILL SERVE THE LORD JUST MAKE IT RIGHT GOD BE THE GLORY FOREVER
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"Good sense." :)
Amen
I am not an Adventist but a Pentecostal Christian, I just stumbled across this message on RUclips.
I was very impressed with the Pastor's position on guns and also his love and passion for God's holy, precious, written Word.
Thank you for your message sir! God's blessings upon you and your ministry in Jesus' name.
Amen!🙏😇
@Charisma 101 False. Repent you are bearing false witness and is in danger of hell fire.
Charisma 101 you said no other religion has as many similarities. You know what I want to debate tour argument but you’ll have to give me some time. However first off. Seventh day Adventist’s don’t believe in eternal hell fire or Sunday worship. Two PINNACLE catholic teachings... so I can already debunk you on that 7th day Adventist’s are extremely similar to Catholics.
LionHeart-IV we do believe salvation by faith however we don’t believe that you can ask for forgiveness on killing someone then go back to killing again. And repeat the cycle because you aren’t asking to be forgives, it isn’t genuine. We also believe to keep the 7th day holy instead of Sunday. As that is a ten commandments and I’ll continue this later as I need to get back to the other guy.
Charisma 101 you know what my friend I’ll play your game. So let’s find some ground. Let’s say that Ellen G white is wrong and she is a false prophet ect. More importantly what the SDA church preaches is the Sabbath message (which will inevitably become why has the world decided to stop following Gods laws), the State of the dead, the trinity and the health message. So now we can focus on those 4 points since those 4 are usually the difference between 7th day Adventism and other Protestant groups. And we do believe that faith alone can save you. That’s usually where you guys try to twist the sabbath message into work related salvation. Anyways let’s focus on one thing at a time so let’s focus on why 7th day Adventist’s to believe in grace. But we also believe that weak faith is also fatal.
Every time i hear Doug i think i've heard the best from him.
Then while preaching a new sermon he educates me again.
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I stood up for Christ about 20 years ago because of Doug's sermon back then. And I watch this one today, about Voltaire (hilarious), and so much more history and efforts of principalities to crush Christianity, the popularity of the Bible and how it has magically survived because of God's power, and I have thought what Doug spoke in this sermon so many times. Just fantastic! Godbless Doug Batchelor and all his family and his work.
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Yes i agree, the bible is the most attacked book ever written, many have tried to destroy it and have failed, from the babylonian's to adolf hitler, to stalin and even today china and viet nam trying to ban it.
It will be interesting to see what happen's there.
@Charisma 101 The brethren will say I am arguing with you when I say that you are wrong. What I am doing is warning you that such accusations without facts is dangerous. Beware of being deceived and your soul end up destroyed.
AMEN
Amen 🙏
For the past month or more the Lord has been confirming to me over and over and over again that He is my refuge and protection. And for me to not fear the chaos, armies, fire, and calamity around me, because He is my shield. To not fear man, because He is God and is greater than man. We need to be drawing closer to God in deep prayer and communion with Him.
Those who live in Christ, need no weapons. God in my safe fortress.
I too have these thoughts and feelings! I don’t understand how we are to trust the Lord yet, carry our (lack of faith in our pockets/purse) I also have a problem with canning and storing up food for the time of famine, in the Bible if I recall correctly.. those who stored up food, were told from the Lord to do so. Unless we’re told, I don’t see it. Children of Israel had food provided all the time they were on their journey to Canaan land.
May I mention that tornadoes, earthquakes and all manner of disasters can wipe that stored food away!
This is the last generation, I believe where Jesus will return 🙏
I ask for prayer from those who will, please pray that the Lord help me to see and KNOW what it is to do that I’m lacking. Thank you and God Bless 🙏
I refuse to let this confuse me..I have ask Jesus Himself to guide me because He is my sure confidence of the way the truth and the light. I love but can’t trust man with my soul!
@Charisma 101 HE CLEAR WAS REFERING TO HIS WORD NOT WEAPONS ,THE 2 EDGE SWORD COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH IN REVELATION IS THE WORD OF GOD. WHEN PETER CUT OFF THE EAR OF THE MAN IN THE GARDEN JESUS HEALED HIM .REVELATION 19:15 THE DECIPLES AFTER THEY WERE CONVERTED NEVER PICKED UP A WEAPON, AND THEY WERE BEING PERSECUTED ON A DAILY BASIS SEE ACT CHAPTER 7 THE STONEING OF STEPHEN AND OTHER ACTS AGAINST GOD'S PEOPLE. WE TRULY HAVE TO RELY ON GOD HAVE YOU EVER WATCHED ISREAL OF THE ALPS BY LLCTINC? I KNOW YOU WOULD ENJOY THE RICH HISTORY OF GOD'S PEOPLE AFTER THE DECIPLES TIME PERIOD .THERE ARE 3 PARTS 💙💚❤💛💜GOD BLESS YOU RICHLY.
@@pattimears200 HI YOUR CORRECT ON THE WEAPONS ,BUT GOD TOLD US THRU SISTER WHITE WE ARE TO STORE UP FOOD. THEN AT THE BIG TIME OF TROUBLE HE WOULD PROVIDE OUR BREAD AND WATER💜💜💜💜
Sherry Sherry thank you! Does that not contradict itself? I ask with love not argument 🙏
I feel very blessed to be able to listen to Pastor Doug’s sermons. Praise God ❤️
“When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are safe.” Luke 11:21
“A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.” Proverbs 22:3
There is a time and place for everything, still knowing our trust is in the Lord
There's no contradiction in the Scriptures!
The contradictions are with human misunderstanding of the Scriptures!
You might double check that concept. Jeremiah 8:8... The written word can lead you to the Living Word. The Living Word is perfect, the written word is not.
@@MyJesusSaves what does that mean to you?
I tell you, this is why the Slain Lamb who has Risen said: "Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away."
@Smokey 420 love you my brother or my sister... You got it right!
@Charisma 101 😅 lol
You be Cool...
*mic drop*
God bless you more Pastor Doug! From Philippines🙏💜😇
Many blessings to all who hear & understand the Word spoken.
@Michael heathman San Francisco South Bay Area. Let’s meet
We have holy angels who can smack down anyone who intends harm to us
No gun can beat that!
True, but David didn't throw an angel at goliath
Creeping Death I don’t really understand how you can make that out of what he said... Every human being is in the hands of God. God allows persecution and mistreatment of His children. He allowed Paul and Peter to be executed, Stephen to be stoned and many martyrs to die.
However, often the death of His children is prevented by His holy angels. Look at the story of Elisha and his servant where God send legions of angels to fight the army of the Syrians.
True Christianity is a complete trust on God’s plan for you. Jesus told us to love our enemies. Do we show love to them by killing them? Violence by man is never an act of love to the neighbor, its an act of love to self.
God promises to take care of His children when they are in danger, as long as they put trust in Him. “The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.”
Psalms 34:7
I know quite some experiences where God intervened for His children that do not carry weapons. If we truly put our faith in Him, He will work for us.
@@oorahjoe But God was with him. I think sometimes in unforeseen situations God will send an angel to keep us from harm BUT in the case of David, God was teaching him to trust. His experience in these matters proved the heart of David and developed in him courage, fortitude and faith.
@Creeping Death To the true faithful ones yes, they do posses somewhat of an invincibility. God will send His angels to guard and protect from evil Angel's. This would be much easier than doing things in our own strength. The Angel's are there to protect and guard from Satans assaults. But God gave us free will to ask for His help...whether atheist or Christian if we seek him, He will help. Yes many are persecuted, just as in the days of the Bible but God got them through...and some of course were martyrs.
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: for fear has torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18 KJV.
I agree. But being prepared or taking practical measures doesn't mean one is fearful.
@@soldier4christ BEAUTIFUL 💜💛❤💚💙
@@soldier4christ SPOKEN LIKE OUR LORD KING JESUS THE CARNAL MIND IS EMNITY TOWARDS GOD EMNITY MEANS HATRED!!! GOD BLESS YOU RICHLY.💜💛❤💚💙
@@soldier4christ Amen, brother! Right on target! Good job!
@@soldier4christ Amen, sister. You go, girl! Preach it!
This year 2020, we who look for the 2nd Advent are expecting special Prophetic fulfilment. Knowing and living Bible, Christ formed within us; is what we need. God takes care of the rest.
Lazy, no practicality is where that idea stems from.
One of her prophecies claim we will have our spiritual equipment taken away. So best to work on learning and knowing the Bible the best we can now. 😁👍
Im pentecosta Encouraging me about faith Thanks alot ptr doug batchelor Godbless us All
I need to hear the Word of God from Doug in these dangerous times with America and Iran and all that...
You ain't lying brother .
Mathew 24:6 and a few verses after. Gods plan will come to pass. As scary as it seems, everything happens according to his will. Keep eyes on the Father and will keep your heart strong
here are two cleanings in our church egw said 2 times Jesus cleansed the temple on earth i believe God gone clean the outer court of our life and our inner soul life the last is our mind. ruclips.net/video/Y-B_0HVGc7Y/видео.html
You need to let the Holy Spirit lead you. Don’t put your faith in pastors and their interpretations. Not all pastors are right all the time. Ellen white even said she was a lesser light and pointed to Gods word. Pastor Doug is a lesser light. He must decrease and Christ must increase.
Yet John the Baptist was sent to declare the truth before His Coming.
Love you Doug. You are God's chosen voice for the whole world .Keep up the good work.
PRAISE OUR HEAVENLY FATHER'S MIGHTY POWER TO SAVE US AND PROTECT US IN THIS *TROUBLE TIMES WE ARE SECURE THAT JESUS IS OUR MASTER GUIDING US!! " ONE DAY A TIME IS HIS PEACEFUL COUNSIL "!!
Thank Jesus for your Witness Brother Doug. I pray for your success in bringing the Word to more lost souls like you did for me. Amen
Thank you pastor Doug.
Praise God for Pastor Doug!!!! What an incredible teacher he is. Wow.
Not sure if everyone commenting heard the sermon fully but he did say that at their church they do take practical security measures that " they don't advertise". Common sense doesn't just fly away when you enter the church and I'm thankful that we have men that are willing and courageous to protect the children and all others in the church.
Psalm 144:1, Luke 22:36, Psalm 82:3-4, 1Tim5:8, James 4:7. Defending and protecting your life and the lives of those you care about is respect toward God's gift of life!
If God commands thou shalt not kill, its ok to defend ourselves. As for vengeance, that belongs to God sayeth the Lord. Those who kill with the sword will be killed by the sword.
Also the Husbands duty.
Doug Batchelor is my sermon every Saturday SABBATH🗽🇺🇸🌈📖🙏😇💒⛪😎👼 🇮🇱 ✝ ✡🗺🌎
Thank you Pastor Doug for sharing this teaching from the Lord God all mighty.
Right. Blessings and salvation in Christ Jesus only carry on
Lovely sermon, to god be the glory
Good sermon. Thanks Pastor.
God has promised, if we go Godward, God the controller of destiny of all nations, shall raise up friends to fight our battle for us.
Destiny??????
Who are these "friends" going to be who fight ''our'' battles?
@Michael Heathman I am not an Adventist. I sometimes listen to their sermons. I do not condemn anyone by my remark. This is just my understanding of things!
@@oorahjoe angels and legions of light!
Its better to have it & not need it,than to need it & not have it!
The early church had roman armie s attack them&others,yet they did NOT take up arms against any of them!!
I highly thank this man i was in prisión 15 years ago and i read the amazing facts magazines they changed my life untill now ive still havent seen elswere such wheapons of truth to win souls and wake souls .i thank this man
Thank you God fir this powerful message that shows that you are our salvation!!’
I am inspired & value so much, the teachings on this site, along with materials for study, & motivation to worship God. God continually bless this ministry for the glory of God in Jesus name.
Is it true that there was a British combat unit in the WW 2, whose commanding officer required his men to read Psalm 91 daily, committing it to memory. I have heard that it was the only combat unit that suffered no casualties during the war.
IT IS WONDERFUL MESSAGE I LOVE IT
Hordes of evil hide in darkness. If we have more Light, they cannot hide in darkness. And God's Light reveals them.
Psalms 119:105 (KJV) Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
Isaiah 9:8 (KJV) The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.
People are trusting to themselves and their weapons to protect and defend them. It is God who defends his people. We are to love and forgive those who hate us. We are all as lambs to the slaughter, martyrs for our Lord if He so chooses. We are not called to defend ourselves by taking the life of others, rather to depend on God for our safety. His armies, His angels, camp about those who fear and believe upon His name. Leave the fight to God, and leave the judgment of unjust acts to Him. He will not let them go unpunished.
@Charisma 101 Brother, I suggest you compare the 4 gospel accounts on this topic. Concerning this same situation, Jesus also said: But one of the men with Jesus pulled out his sword and struck the high priest’s slave, slashing off his ear. “Put away your sword,” Jesus told him. “Those who use the sword will die by the sword. Don’t you realize that I could ask my Father for thousands of angels to protect us, and he would send them instantly?
Matthew 26:51-53 NLT Was he contradicting himself? Or did he mean something else? Was he using figurative language? Regardless, the overwhelming weight of evidence points to Jesus not wanting his disciples to resort to violence, we are to plead our case with God.
@Charisma 101 The people who came after Jesus that night were not carrying weapons to defend themselves, they were using them to persecute. By telling Peter to put away his sword, Jesus was telling him that it was pointless to use it. Furthermore, he told him that those who fight using weapons shall die. If he so chose, Jesus could have prayed to God and God would have sent angels to defend them, rendering their plans for defending themselves using weapons meaningless.
Doing anything similar to something that an evil person is doing is unwise. However, people are free to follow whatever they think is right.
@@soldier4christ We are not officially in time of trouble. I suspect Pastor Batchelor was suggesting there were hired guards in the church rather than members who were armed. But again I am just guessing at the true meaning.
I have already addressed this at our church. If ever we are attacked, members are to throw everything loose at the intruder so as to distract him or her making in easier for one of us to tackle and subdue the evil doer. Those hymnals would deliver a serious blow if tossed by the average adult or even teenaged boy.
What can you tell when Evildoers don’t care about no one but themselves, very close what had happened on lsraelitas on October 07/2023 can you explain it, l think God said help yourself and l will help you, unfortunately there it’s Good and Bad we end to defend aurselbs and the woman and children, think the Evil did in lsrael, kill inocent defendless Elderly, woman and children, your coment it’s out of love bcs unfortunately Evil exist
The angels of God, thousands upon thousands, ... guard us against evil and press back the powers of darkness that are seeking our destruction. Have we not reason to be thankful every moment, thankful even when there are apparent difficulties in our pathway?-My Life Today, 171
I believe strongly .in the Seventhday Adventist teaching I believe the Seventhday Adventist church is my Heavenly Fathers true church
Self-defense is not murder:
"If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process, the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder." Exodus 22:2
Thank you Doug!!!!!! Amazing Facts!!!!!!
He said let me tell you, what the BIBLE!! says..
Before leaving the house for labor, all the family should be called together; and the father, or the mother in the father's absence, should plead fervently with God to keep them through the day. Come in humility, with a heart full of tenderness, and with a sense of the temptations and dangers before yourselves and your children; by faith bind them upon the altar, entreating for them the care of the Lord. Ministering angels will guard children who are thus dedicated to God.-Child Guidance, 519
Charisma what is a scapegoat?
Sorry but that is not true. She consistently said she was NOT a prophet. You might want to do better research my friend.
It is the Bible that says Satan is the one responsible for the evil that sin brought into this world. He will ultimately pay for all of this in that he will be banished for a thousand years and then destroyed in a lake of fire. All those who didn't allow Jesus blood to cover their sins will perish with him. It is Jesus and his sacrifice that saves and that alone!
Amen!
Very inspiring message for the last day's From Mrs M, Barrett Jamaica.
Thank you for joining us! May God bless you. - The Amazing Facts team
Very good info about the Bible, loved it. Rwalls Ky.
I am reading the missing books now like Enock and others and i have learned more and come closer to God. I highly recommend this to every person. 😊
how do you know these books are credible?
Good for you for making the right choice and having the gumption to put it on youtube!
thanks
Glory to God Almighty Powerful for today
Awesome
God is awesome
Yes I do believe this way myself. I'm a pastor here in yuma az. We have one church here in yuma. The men picking up the offering were arms
I listened through and I didn't hear Pastor Doug saying we must use guns in church. If anything he spoke about the Bible as a shield and two- edged sword.
Amen
a very calm pastor but the preach is full of content ,sinks to my mind
I grew up a seventh day adventist. Went to an adventist school. And somewhere along the way I became a sinner trying to hang on to what bit of convoluted knowledge I had & no understanding. I know God kept at me, I recall many times being whispered back to the adventist family. Early in the pandemic, living surrounded by adventist churches, I was inspired to began looking for worship online. I had heard of pastor doug but had never listened to his sermons. I've been greatly rewarded by following his many sermons & presentions. However, I tried starting to read the Bible & I can't seem to find the message as you did while in the cave. I am working on my prayer life & listen constantly to you and a few others online. I just can't seem to get into a good Bible reading program. HELP!
Try Steps to christ
Also The Desire Of Ages, about the life of Jesus.. it's special.. it can give you incredible hope.. it did to me.
I am a Seventh Say Adventist, have a concealed carry permit and wrestle with this issue all the time. I feel I am weak for not trusting my safety to God, but then I wonder if He might be using me if I had to protect someone else.
As far as carrying in church, that's something that I cannot yet do. It just feel wrong, even if it's not.
Here is some help...
While they were rebuilding the wall, they faced threats from Sanballat the Horonite and Tobiah the Ammonite. What did Nehemiah require of the people?
Nehemiah 4:18 (KJV) For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.
Nehemiah 4:17 (KJV) They which builded on the wall, and they that bare burdens, with those that laded, every one with one of his hands wrought in the work, and with the other hand held a weapon.
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As for me? I have never carried a weapon and see no need for it, for I FULLY trust in God. I follow Christ, you could say. 🙂
He carried no weapon, but the sword- which was His Word.
Ephesians 6:17 (KJV) And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
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But that is just me. 🙂 I fully trust God for my protection.
"Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6."
That being said, know your state's self-defense laws. Educate yourself on the legal and moral responsibility to stop a lethal threat. Learn where not to be to prevent being forced to defend yourself or others. Study how to deescalate various high-stress situations for the benefit of all involved.
Amen!🙏💜
Thanks Elder Doug. A spirit-filled sermon to start the most important decade of History....2020 onwards. You were fired today with the Holy Ghost. God bless you According to Heb 6:10
love
John18:36 “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”
Matt26:52 ..Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Guns have no place in the congregation...period! A plain thus saith the Lord.......
Our church has a number of armed deacons and Elders at every service. If you come to us with evil intentions, you are not leaving.
Being meek doesn't mean to be weak, God help those who help themselves and others
I believe that as long as I’m in the will of God He is my PROTECTOR!! If it is His will that I die at the hands of a sick minded person then His will be done..
That church where this happened had already come to the conclusion and “believed” that they needed armed security men in their services... so it was unto them as they believed..
“ Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword” ( Matt.26:52)
If my church believes it’s up to congregation to protect them selves or worse yet, hired guns, then I’m gonna find myself another church and pray for those that trust in man..
I firmly believe this is a heart issue.. and once again God is revealing the hearts of His people..
I pray that your heart is fully ready and trusting in the Lord. When distress comes to your life, do not show your human side as many will be watching your examples and your comment here may stand as a reminder to you.
Max JNB .. Amen! Oh the stories I could tell you... to God be ALL THE GLORY!
Max JNB .. sir you do know when your time comes to die NOTHING will prevent it, right?
I pray that your heart is ready and trusting the Lord now to keep you in all the afflictions of life. We may fail Him but He will never fail us!
Sister Becky, please know I am not saying this in a way to attack or offend you but it truly is a question I had while reading your comment. Do you wear a seatbelt in a car? Do you lock your doors or windows of your home at night? Do you lock your car before you go to bed? Why? Can’t God protect you from all this? I don’t say this as a way to mock or belittle our Lord I’m ANY MANNER! I know He can do anything with our without our “help.” But what I am saying is believing and trusting in God does not mean we should not exercise the common sense the Lord has given us.
J R .. and so your saying it’s common sense to carry a gun in a church? And no worries you haven’t offended me! But I think you guys that are comparing seatbelts & locking doors to bringing guns into a Sanctuary need more of the Holy Spirit!! Because there is a big difference! I don’t know, perhaps it’s because I was raised to reverence God’s house that I cannot believe we should ever fear going to church to the point that we need to carry guns with us!
Greatfull Glory Kapaglaum
Psalms 44:5-8
"5 Through thee will we push down our enemies: through thy name will we tread them under that rise up against us.
6 *For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.*
7 *But thou hast saved us from our enemies,* and hast put them to shame that hated us.
8 In God we boast all the day long, and praise thy name forever. Selah."
I was a Sheriffs Deputy when I was younger, am excellent marksman/woman...I can hit a pin head from 200 miles away...LoL...not really but I'm pretty good.
I have a CCW, conceal carry weapons permit....BUT I had NEVER taken my weapon/gun to church.. I know someone who takes one in her purse, has NEVER learned how to shoot it OR load it...but she claims SHE will save people if someone starts shooting in the church...I was sooo upset, angry I asked she NOT bring her weapon because if she starts shooting, she WILL hurt/kill others...when she refused AND the pastor at that church failed to back me up, we changed churches..
God doesn’t want us to even commit murder that’s one of the commandments. If I have to die being who am I as a Christian so be it. I will die believing in the holy lord Jesus Christ 🙏🏻
That's right God doesn't want us to commit murder. So why do SDA'S support abortion and actually practice it too ? They will perform abortions for any reason at the SDA hospital in Loma Linda CA and their other hospitals. What about the commandment thou shall not kill' ? Jeremiah 1:5 God said I knew you when I formed you in the womb and sanctified thee . God created those babies and SDA doctors and nurses murder them for money . SDA is the only religious group that practice this wickedness . Very strange for a people that claim to obey the 10 commandments !
I think Pastor Doug explained this beautifully. Should we have trust in God? Yes! Does that mean we don’t practice common sense in this day and age? No. Sadly with the way the world is now, guns do have a place in a church. For those who say they don’t I would say tell that to all the people who died in the Sutherland Springs church shooting. I would also ask those same people who say we should trust in God (TRUE!) and not use our common sense that the Lord gives us, do you wear a seatbelt in a car? Why? Don’t you trust God will protect you? Do you lock your doors and windows at night before you go to bed? Why? Don’t you trust God will protect you? The word tells us we should not tempt God, and I whole heartedly agree with that. But as a gun owner I do not believe that having trust in God means you should not be practical.
Well said
This day and age is no different than any before it. As it was in the days of Noah and of Lot, so it is now. Because people are living in fear does not make it ok to take the life God has given. Guns are different than other protective devices brother. A seat belt cannot be used by someone to attack someone else and cause death. I would never point a gun at another person with the intent to killI, Jesus has not called me to do that. It is God who defends his people. We are to love and forgive those who hate us. We are all as lambs to the slaughter, martyrs for our Lord if He so chooses, like any other Christian who has been murdered before us. We are not called to defend ourselves by taking the life of others, rather to depend on God for our safety. His armies, His angels, camp about those who fear and believe upon His name. Leave the fight to God, and leave the judgment of unjust acts to Him. He will not let them go unpunished.
Gustavo Ontiveros brother I bring up the statement because it is an example of a precautionary measure that people take in case something bad happens ie a car accident. Why take precautions on anything if you are trusting in God to protect you?
Desmond doss didn't use a gun but God protected him.
Thank you, The power of God's love, is unstop-able, even during a battle in a world war. Very good example.
There is a difference between protecting the flock and seeking out a wolf to kill.
Check out the testimony of Phodidas Ndamayugabe (misspelled his name) at GYC. This sounds like something straight out of the Old Testament. He only trusted in Jesus
Yet David did used a sword......as well as countless faithful through the Bible including the prophet Samuel who "...hewed Agag to pieces before the Lord..."
He didnt cut him to pieces using sharp language it was done with a weapon. Defending against evil is just common sense and our God is a God of sense and reason. IS 1:18
Elijah killed the prophets of Baal, too, but that was before Jesus came along and said that HE would have mercy and not sacrifice. Translation: He prefers that a child of God BE KILLED rather than KILL someone else. That way the child of God gets to be like the thief on the cross (with him in paradise that very day) instead of cutting off another person's chance to repent.
"And he who hath no sword, let him sell his garments and buy one"-
Luke 22:36
Trust in God or rely on weapons for our safety against our enemies?
Ezra 8: 21-23 - NKJV
"21 Then I proclaimed a fast there at the river of Ahava, that *we might humble ourselves before our God, to seek from Him the right way for us* and our little ones and all our possessions.
22 *For I was ashamed to request of the king an escort of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy* on the road, because we had spoken to the king, saying, *“The hand of our God is upon all those for good who seek Him,* but His power and His wrath are against all those who forsake Him.”
23 So we fasted and entreated our God for this, and *He answered our prayer."*
@@chavdartodorov1731 I trust in what Pastor Doug Batchelor said; we have a God given right to self defense. Period. If someone uses a weapon for nefarious purposes... yes, God will judge. But, you have the right to protect yourself and your family from evil, as Doug quoted many scriptures to back that up.
ANOTHER NAME OR REFERENCE FOR SWORD IS THE WORD OF GOD THE BIBLE ,NOT A WEAPON OF PHYSICAL DESTRUCTION ❤💚💙💖💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@@sheepseven7588 Nope. Jesus was talking about a physical sword. You wouldn't "sell your garments" to buy "the word", that makes zero sense. You don't know what you're talking about. People like you call an AR15 a "machine gun". 🙄
Jesus never even suggested that His disciples were going to "overcome the Roman army with two swords," but that a weapon was needed to protect themselves from common criminals. For we all are required to co-labor with our Creator is everything. So while we trust in Jesus, we also must do our part.
Hey did Pastor Batchelor preach anything on The Synagogue Shooting in Pittsburgh, that left 11 people Dead on The Sabbath?
That should us made every Seventh Day Adventist's & Seventh Day Baptists alert after that transpired.
Ezra 8: 21-23 - NKJV
"21 Then I proclaimed a fast there at the river of Ahava, that *we might humble ourselves before our God, to seek from Him the right way for us* and our little ones and all our possessions.
22 *For I was ashamed to request of the king an escort of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy* on the road, because we had spoken to the king, saying, *“The hand of our God is upon all those for good who seek Him,* but His power and His wrath are against all those who forsake Him.”
23 So we fasted and entreated our God for this, and *He answered our prayer."*
Chavdar Todorov .. Glory!
Being armed in these last days is just plain wise. David didn’t go against Goliath empty handed and the Lord was with him. A weapon doesn’t necessarily mean a lack of faith, it is just a practical step. The commandment is properly translated do not murder, not do not kill. Ecc 3:3 tells us there is a time and purpose for everything, this includes a time to make war and to kill. The strong man doesn’t allow his house to be plundered. Remember the thief comes both to steal and to kill(John 10:10)
The angels appointed to minister to the children of God have at all times access to His presence.-The Great Controversy, 512, 513.
Common sense! You’re so right.
If that "Cap" gets put on during this year, it takes us into the LOUD CRY, to be followed by the 7 Last Plagues, and then the Glorious Appearing of our Lord. No 🔫 can keep me safe at Church. Only God can.
What happened to those individuals in the church that day sir?
Loved this sermon
I don't like the fact that he said that it was okay to, "Not just trust the Lord" in reference to the story. Also, don't ask don't tell? That may have been a joke, however that is a serious comment.
Check 8:50
Listen to the rest of his message. Trusting in God doesnt mean you throw practicality to the wind. Do you sleep with the front door unlocked? When you're driving, do you stop at stop signs? The point is, practicality on this Earth doesn't mean you're not faithful. Don't be so quick to be outraged before you give a modicum of thought to the topic.
Many will agree,a boat floats, But then will battle each other why it floats. and a boat can sink,as well as people If they only wonder why. Eph:5---Eph:6 I love. Expose evil---Protection against evil. Along with the Bible I also love The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance.
Shall be done my Lord.. in Jesus Name..#StarRealm26
Can someone please tell me why the comments on this video being censored?
Several have disappeared!
Dear Heavenly Father please open our eyes and change the intentions of our hearts and minds to match Your will. In Jesus Christ name I pray. AMEN!
I know. Some of mine have disappeared. I guess I'm just not well-aligned with the teachings of the World Church Organization. That's good, because it's a narrow way that leads to eternal life, "and few there be that find it." But the broad way is the one that leads to destruction, many enter into it and occupy it. That's my paraphrasing.
Besides, next they'd be wanting me to support the One World Order if I was one of them.
This is why we need to avoid the internet and social media that can be censored.
@@lewis2553 I agree. God bless you and your family in the name of Jesus Christ.
Hello could you please send the link to that Marenethe book …
Thank you…
thank you pastor doug… for once again... taking the high road. our church has a member that is also a police officer. I HOPE HE CONCEAL CARRIES. I'm assuming he would.
While on my laptop I was lead from my study of the great controversy book to start reading Maranatha. While studying Maranatha I was lead to pull up RUclips on my TV Roku and played this sermon while still reading you mention the Maranatha book! Brother Doug Batchelor, is there a way I can email or speak with you?
@Michael Heathman Have you read this book? If so, please could you outline the demonic cultic sections so that I can be as well informed as you are. Otherwise, please pray that the Lord will remove the scales that the enemy has placed over your eyes.
Amen, the Holy Spirit truly moves on our hearts at just the right time.
This is in response to Darren
@Michael Heathman The mere fact that you are so angry and bitter telling everyone about being judgemental and yet judging and pronouncing judgement on others reflects the issues you have. You are angry and aggressive, hardly the Christ- like character you appear to claim others are lacking. Look to the Word and the mirror will reflect what needs to be sorted out in your life and then once the Lord has had His way, you will no longer be used by the enemy. May God bless you as you fight your personal battles and strive to be part of God's kingdom as we are all striving to be.
Michael Heathman I’m going to guarantee you that you won’t make it with your attitude. Don’t know what your issue is but you need to take your negativity elsewhere. I’m a proud SDA and nobody will ever change that. Not even the trolls.
I keep missing the videos because for me its night
"you wont overcome the roman army with 2 swords"... simson probably would say, give me two donkey heads
Is there an Adventist chat room on utube?
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I'm astonished by what I'm hearing Doug saying about "church security and defend ourselves" . I can hardly believe the perspective added to the word of God 😮
See the book of Nehemiah. Jump to chapter 4
These were men of God, STRONGLY DEVOTED to God, yet...
@@ricardoleslie9811 what is it with Nehemiah? A nation defending itself or a an individual acting up very entitled as he was a nation?
@markwhite6981 I see that you have not read the 16th Bible Book. I will leave you to read it, with the Holy Spirit's invitation as you read...
... for He will lead you into all truth (John 14 verses 16 & 17; John 16 verse 13)
@@ricardoleslie9811 john 14:16+ applies more to you. If you are for guns conversion to Christ is urgently needed.
Are you for guns or against guns at the individual level? That's where the mind troubles begin for many PROFESSED christians
The Swiss Guard is overwhelmingly not armed.
Gods people rebuilt the temple working with one hand and a sword in the other. If there was no present danger, they might've used two hands to work.
I'm not superstitious but I do carry a bible with me everywhere I go.
He gives the holy truth as it is written and he adds nothing or take from its lines.
All of the Apostles but one perished by the hands of man. How many of them fought with the sword? They stood their ground with faith and obedience... God knows all and sees all... How many members where carrying? How many members were walking by faith in God? How many walked with faith in the gun? It was revealed. Let us repent.
LouQuain Loud .. and not one died before their time.
@Charisma 101 Then how does all of these things come together? Jesus says in Matthew 5:44-45
44“But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
45“that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Jesus speaks only on loving and doing the will of the Father, no where does Jesus condones violence. He wouldn't even speak on behave of fighting the Romans who abused the Jews. Man attempts to justify his own desires by allowing their hearts to be deceived by Satan, as he attacks our desires.
Matthew 16:23
23¶But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.”
We must be strong in our faith like the three Hebrew boys.
Daniel 3:16-18
16¶Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego answered and said to the king, “O Nebuchadnezzar, we have no need to answer you in this matter.
17“If that is the case, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and He will deliver us from your hand, O king.
18“But if not, let it be known to you, O king, that we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up.”
@Charisma 101 I understand your response. I apologize if I had offended you, but it wasn't my intention. The idea that many are putting their faith in the weapon is a concern, yet it is the law therefore it is just. So may we pray that an event, such as the one that brought us to this discussion won't happen again. I am not politically driven, nor do I push an agenda. So the only bias I have is to the New England Patriots and the OKC Thunder. But I love the Lord and I desire to do his will and understand his word. May you take care and God bless.
@Charisma 101 Thank you for your reply. I don't know any prophets, but the Lord has revealed things to me. I wouldn't have known it to be of the Lord if I didn't have a relationship with Him. I know the Father and I love Him. I try to pray to Him about everything, because I am nothing without Him. Prayer is powerful. More powerful than a firefighter, police officer, or ambulance. It's even more powerful than a gun. I don't understand all the Bible but I have witnessed the power prayer. When my Aunt died in the hospital, it was prayer that woke her up. When my niece was pronounced dead, it was the Holy Spirt who brought her back, but through prayer. When my daughter tried to take her life, it was through prayer and faith that she was made whole. I'm not a prideful person, nor do I consider myself to be that intelligent, but the Lord took me trough Three Deployments in Iraq and one to Afghanistan. It wasn't the trucks, rifles, or our wits. It was prayer and faith. I will forever be grateful for his grace and mercy.
Pastor you said you have place to go when we are supposed to flee to the mountians, you have a house in the wilderness, some cannot afford to have that. So what are they suppose to do? It takes money to have a house Evan now
Pastor Doug where in the new testament does it say that sword/gun is ok in the sanctuary
All the evidence you are giving is from the old testament
I have followed you for years and have great respect for your knowledge of the word but this is the first time I have questioned what you say
Help us understand
Because the only weapon drawn I know of in the new testament is when Peter drew his sword and Jesus rebuked him if there is anything I miss help me
God bless
Hi I can't speak for pastor Doug but I hope you do understand that every part of God's word wether old or new testament is important and has equal value and weight. God say not one drop of the word will pass away until All is fulfilled not just new testament please study the whole word. Bless you
What about the clergy response team
Clergy Response Teams? Do you recognize this name -- "Pastor Revere"?
Mass murder attacks on houses of worship are becoming more and more frequent.
"I don't think there is a moral dilemma to having... armed security at religious gatherings... justice and protection does not stop happening once you enter the church. It's still a domain of common sense. Where there is times of increased danger then you might need increased security.
I trust in the Lord,.. but we also take practical measures here that we don't advertise. Let's just call it 'Don't Ask Don't Tell.' I don't want anyone living in fear." Pastor Batchelor
When David was running from King Saul he went to a church to acquire the sword of Goliath for protection, along with holy bread to eat. You can read about this event in the 21st chapter of 1 Samuel.
More lethal weapons in the church:
"You Levites, form a bodyguard around the king and keep your weapons in hand. Kill anyone who tries to enter the Temple. Stay with the king wherever he goes." 2 Chronicles 23:7
Evil Joab was executed inside the church:
King Solomon gave the command, “...Kill him there beside the altar and bury him. This will remove the guilt of Joab’s senseless murders from me and from my father’s family." 1 Kings 2:31
the Bible mentions warrior preist. one of David's mighty men was a Levite.
The Roots of America's Revolutionary War:
While it is undetermined just when the colonists began having issues with their English masters, the causes of dissension between England and her 13 American colonies were many. Thomas Jefferson listed some of them in the Declaration of Independence. We can go back to at least the Sugar Act of 1764 which established taxes on not only sugar but a host of other goods. After that came the Stamp Act (more taxes), the Quartering Act, (requiring colonists to house and feed British troops), and a host of other burdensome taxes. For this, the colonials resisted, and there were demonstrations, one of the most famous being the Boston Tea Party. Yet, none were enough to push the colonists to open rebellion.
Then, on April 18, 1775, British General Thomas Gage sent 700 troops to Concord, Massachusetts. On the dawn of the 19th, 70 average men, farmers, clerks, storekeepers, and the like stood fast and faced the might of the British army at Lexington Green. History does not record who fired the first shot, the one Ralph Waldo Emerson called 'the shot heard round the world,' but we know it lead to the first time in history in which the British army was defeated by common citizens.
And what sin, what transgression did the British commit to incur this armed conflict? They had come for their firearms, powder, and shot. Their own government was trying to disarm them. The first battles of the Revolutionary War were fought over gun control. So let this be a lesson to all that follows - true patriots will never allow themselves to be disarmed, for to do so is tantamount to a loss of security, freedom, and indeed would lead to slavery, as history has witnessed many times.
Armed man/women = Citizen
Unarmed man/women = Subject
Disarmed man/women = Slave