I accompanied a friend who was a wreck to an AA meeting once and tried to tell people that I wasn't myself an alcoholic. Ha. On the whole, it's rather odd, it's better not to utter such an assertion.
Have you ever thought about making a "behind the scenes" video? I'd be very interested in how you prepare your bike adventures, how you decide for a route, how you set up cameras and microphones, how you prepare for the topic you talk about (it seems like you do prepare a general outline before?), how you cut the video, how you go through the hassle of uploading it from china,...
If you don't want to put it on youtube, make a really good and detailed video about it and put it on vimeo on demand. I wouldn't mind paying a dollar or two for that ;)
That would make for an interesting video. Afaik they either never read your message or took no notice and it’s a great shame. I also would have liked a ‘behind the scenes’ video too.
My father worked for Thyssen in Germany in a factory where basically all non-German workers were Portuguese. The other day a Chinese from Macau started working in the company and they took him to a Portuguese clubhouse next to the factory and drank withhim. It was crazy because he passed out they called emergency a helicopter took him to a hospital but he died. He was propably dead allready in the helicopter. Mom was realy angry at dad because he was there in the club. The Macau guy had family and all and died after his first day at work in Germany...
I’m sure he wasn’t forced into drinking the alcohol and was old enough to know the risks. It’s a great shame on his first day there, but those around him should not be made to feel guilty, unless they were literally pouring alcohol down his throat against his will.
@@AbsoluteMiniacGena I mean when you come from a culture where your manliness is based on how much you can drink you might be inclined to try to keep up. Bad shit.
it is so ironic that the country with arguably the most popular drinking culture has also the largest alcohol allergic group of the world, Asian glow, is actually very common among chinese people, it is basically acetaldehyde intoxication, and can be carcinogenic if the intoxicated person keeps drinking very often, because it can cause esophagus cancer.
Lee Ma I am 100% English and used to easily drink 10 pints of lager snakebite in a night back to when I was 18/19 and then I fell out with my drinking buddy as she married a man she knew was violent after he thumped me one night as I’d gone back to their home with her, I gave her the option to either leave with me or stay with him as I wasn’t going to risk having a night out only to get whacked by him again . She stayed with him and I quit drinking . I went on to marry myself and have children and so it was almost 20 years before I had alcohol again and I just cannot drink without getting excruciating aches which develop into pain in my arms. It happens after just a few sips of an alcopop yet never happened in my true drinking days of speed drinking and wet T shirt contests.
I'm half japanese ,and I definitely have this problem, as well. I'm the most lightweight drinker you've ever seen. 1 or 2 beers and it actually gets hard for me to breathe. My whole body gets really hot. If I drink a lot of hard liquor, I get itchy hives on my ankles.
What happens if you are at a business meeting and you cant drink? I quit drinking a few years ago and I just refuse to drink when someone offers. I usually say its a health problem, but in reality I'm a sober alcoholic and its a huge risk for me to have any amount, a risk i will never take. Can you explain that? Or do they see that as weakness?
They hinted on that in the video. It's like a lawyer where if you can't afford one one will be appointed to you. In the video they said you would have someone drink for you
I drink baiju only when I am eating spicy Hunan or Szechuan foods, and only in small sips. Baiju has a strong aroma which compliments the spicy Chinese foods. It is heavenly when enjoyed this way. It was never intended to be gulped or binge-drunk, just like a fine cognac for Europeans.
Spot on about the challenge drinking in China. I remember when I went to China to meet my wife's family and friends, every single night was like a challenge to see how much baijiu laowai could drink. Luckily at the time I was much younger and in good form so I could drink all of them under the table. For me though I enjoyed baijiu the first time I tried it. I tried to tell my wife I thought that it tasted like pineapple, but she didn't think so. Glad someone else thinks it tastes like pineapple as well.
I was too busy studying for my Chinese quiz that is due tomorrow and I missed your livestream!! oh, by the way, I am studying Mandarin because of you guys. You fellas are great. keep up the great videos.
This video reminds me of when I first went to visit my wife's family in the North East of China for Chinese New Year. One of her uncles got so drunk that he died. That was a shicking introduction to Chinese drinking culture.
Great video, guys! Discussing all kinds of things while showing us bits of China each time is a great idea. I enjoy the back-and-forth banter and the motorcycle footage equally well.
The most difficult thing in China can be finding a proper cold beer in some places, with many Chinese normally drinking their beer warm. They regard it too expensive to keep fridges running and just get used to it. When you then ask for a cold beer, they will often offer you a glass with ice cubes in it.
Also in people's homes, they often drink their beer warm, because they are used to doing that when they go out. Also experienced it in a nightclub in Quanzhou.
+Xiao Lin About two days ago in Hubei, was just the latest example. Not a poor family either, with the 00001 number plate for the region and curiously with a family link with a local brewery. However they went out especially to buy cold beer, as they had been drinking their beer straight from the carton on the floor, despite having a large fridge in the kitchen. Not the first or last such encounter I've had around many parts of China.
Totally true that. You often get bewildered looks from restaurant folks in Beijing when they brought you a warm beer and you are telling them (friendly) that you would like a cold one... then they either bring you another one they claim is cold (but isn't) or a glass with ice cubes in it. Well, it's about other beer drinking habits, on a side note: it also took me some time to get used to that warm water thing at restaurants )))
This is the only channel that would actually have a purpose for 360 filming (though mount it on the bike handle bar, not on your head, that would get people sick).
Yeah, but then the usefulness of a 360° camera goes down. A fourth of the shot would just be a close-up of C-milk or Winston's torso. It should be helmet mounted, but also gyroscopically locked. Like a chicken's head.
during WWII my grandparents said the soldiers would drink ethanol or airplane fuel or torpedo fuel E85. and he would say don't do that you will go blind.
i'll be moving to china for work soon, and this is great to know, cheers for the videos guys, been a longtime subscriber so it's great to see videos like this one
I've always had a love hate relation ship with the drinking culture in China. Since I like in the Northeast, people drink very heavily all the time. Most meals start with baijui and then once that bottle is finished move on to beers. My problem is I don't go much for beer. Understatement - I hate beer with a vengeance and it hates me. Every other kind of drink is fine but not beer. So I would be fine at the beginning of the night, drinking the baijui, but once it finished, and the beers came out, I would refuse it. People would be all confused and a little insulted that I wouldn't continue drinking with them longer. I also, because of this, found out something interesting about baijui - Chinese people don't like the taste either. They drink it at the beginning to try to get a bit tipsy quickly. Once the bottle is empty, they want to move on to nicer, lighter, drinks. If I suggested that we continue drinking another bottle of baijui, I would get lots of very sad faces. Nobody wanted to keep drinking that all night. The best fun I had was two years ago at Xmas. I was having dinner with some rich business men who liked to try to out drink me. They could come close, but couldn't. The previous year, one of them had bought some absinthe in France and we got quite drunk on that, so this year I brought some Polish made Spirytus that is 98% by volume. That night they never got onto the beers. Before the bottle was empty, one of them threw up, then quietly stole the bottle off the table and flushed the last couple of shots down the toilet. My solution to the not drinking beer, was to bring my own drinks to the restaurant. All my Chinese friends and family have now got seriously into red wine and Scottish whisky. Also, the need to drink you under the table dissipates once they know you and have made you through up once. When people are new friends, they push to drink to the limit and beyond but once they have taken you to that limit, they will lay off and let you just get very drunk, not extremely drunk.
One day I was in a sideroad barbecue drinking with my colleagues from the school. And then one food courier, who was drinking alone on a separate table, heard that we were talking Russian. As it turns out, he had learnt Russian in university and could speak on a very elementary level, so he came up to us and he started talking to us. We drank beer together and after some time when beers finished he ordered a bottle of baijiu. We started drinking baijiu and got very drunk. After a bottle of baijiu he became very obsessive and obtrusive, wanted to continue this night with us. But we inderstood that he was very drunk and got out of control, so we paid the bill and told him we were going home. But he wanted to hang out with us wherever we went. We tried to hide from him around the corner when we went out of the food outlet and waited until he loses sight of us and goes away. Then we saw that he had spotted us around the corner and tried to run away, he started following us. It was scary being followed by some mad guy. Eventually, we we able to flag a taxi and got in. The moment we got in and set out, I could see from the window that this guy had almost got hold of us as he was following us. I could see him being 5 metres from the car and he was very furious that we ditched him
Great video guys, I didn't know fake alcohol even existed, it must be kinda scary going out to drink knowing you could come across that sort of stuff. The closest thing to fake alcohol where I'm from (Italy) is some home brewed liquor from WWII, when poor people used rubbing alcohol to make liquor cause it had some sort of chemical in it that made it taste good and it was inexpensive, but luckily nobody makes alcohol like that anymore. Btw I just bought Conquering Southern China, can't wait to watch it!
I don't drink at all, not because I'm super religious or anything, I just hate it. Hate the way I feel during and after drinking. Just listening to their drinking stories made me feel sick.
MegaZeroBlues I don't think being a drinker or being able to hold one's liquor is anything to really brag about... I always hated it when people try to pressure others to drink like a pig and they really put a lot of pressure on a person
Believe me in Russia and China its viewed as hard, but its a load of Bullshit, you destroy your liver, the reason you get high is cause your liver can't flush the poison out fast enough, I can't drink cause of Liver problems, I imagine those tough guys who can drink others under tables won't live long if they continue drinking, the Liver is so important to life and drinking is just abusing that organ.
Totally agree mate, until my mid twenties I used to go to the pub on weekends and get pissed with my mates on beers and cigarettes and it still is the thing to do here in the UK for people in their 20's sad for these guys, they'll realize this when in their 50's or even earlier.
My father (a retired chemical engineer from Newcastle Australia) went to China on numerous occasions throughout the 80's, often months at a time. He talked of many banquets with his Chinese work colleagues, the men using a spittoon and burping to show their enjoyment of the meal. But he never engaged in a drinking competition. By the sounds of it apart from the spitting and burping, the people were pretty conservative alcohol wise at least the ones he encountered. But the 80's were a different era I guess.
Mongolians do the same thing, I'm a Marine grunt, I pride myself on holding my liquor and being fairly well travled with this planet's bars and drinking dens. I have never been so blasted in my LIFE as when I went out drinking with the mongolians. There will be these little 90 pound mongolian chicks popping down vodka like its friggin water all night, and thats just their women. They dont take no for an answer either! youre like "no no, im too drunk" and they fill your glass and all start bullying, cajoling, and cheering you on, you aint leaving until you drink it. Then they fill it back up again.........
most guys i drank with in china had the intolerance thing. they could only manage around 1 or 2 beers before becoming totally red faced and wasted. i faced this 'challenge' you guys speak of while eating donkey with a bunch of people i just met. this one guy was drinking baijiu, i tried to keep up with him. and i did, until i got home that is. luckily they never found out how much i puked up so they thought i was great at drinking and had mad respect. that guy was not a typical red faced chinese guy, he was a baijiu master.
Its called Asian flush or Asian glow. Asians (+Native Americans) have trouble to metabolize alcohol because of a genetic variant that impairs production of an enzyme that helps metabolize alcohol in the liver. Other races use to produce enzyme Acetaldehyde dehydrogenase(ALDH) in a form called ALD2 while Asians's liver produce variant ALD2*2 that is only about 8% as efficient as ALD2 at metabolizing acetaldehyde (an alkohole metabolite).
just because they flush does not mean they are intoxicated. The number of std drinks to become tipsy is still the same...they just stay tipsy for longer. No big deal.
barrelrolldog, Do you know how odd and strangely funny it is to read someone state, "while eating donkey with a bunch of people I just met..." BTW, what are you going to do WITH ALL THAT TIME you saved by not capitalizing your "i's" and beginnings of sentences?
I enjoyed my stay in China (even as a black man), but yes, they drink A LOT in China and the thing that I hated seeing was (I'd hate to gross anyone out with what I'm about to say beware),but I hated seeing people vomit in restaurants WHILE I was eating. It was VERY VERY disgusting. That's the other thing that I'd say about Chinese drinking that would be a culture shock to some if a person is in China long enough.
Waking up 36 hours later, vomit all over your floor, pants half off. That's some serious shit right there. Can you even imagine how bad the vomit must've smelled after sitting on the floor for 36 hours?
I go to China for business. Yes there are business dinners where there is lots of alcohol but not that much where anybody gets sick or gets very drunk. Sometimes we even play table tennis afterwards although play suffers. Good times.
No good for me then...I only drink one beer or one glass of wine, then I stick to mineral water or diet cokes....I may lose face to the locals, but I keep my wits
*lol I am practically unable to get drunk and as soon as I tell someone that they instantly try and get me drunk.* _For reference: 10 bourbons shots/2 hour and I felt NOTHING (I'm 5'4" skinny girl, I don't drink)._ Passed all the drunk tests and everything. edit: *I always win drinking contests, so I guess thats good*
a while ago there was a guy in his mid-late 50s trying to buy a 6er in line ahead of me, & the 18 Y.O. cashier was giving him a hard time. He had a veterans cap on, & was understandably starting to get frustrated because he had a bum leg & would have to walk back to his car for his ID. I stepped in & told the cashier that this "young punk" was trying to get me to buy him beer out front for him & his young friends, & not to sell to him because he's clearly under 21. We all had a laugh, diffusing the situation, & the cashier relented after realizing how absurd it all was. It frustrates me, because when you have a 1000 stupid little rules like this to constantly be aware of, you can actually see people being stripped of their humanity & reason
+DavidRsaid lol so you want to live in a jungle with absolutely no laws? yes you can't sell using your personal property because you'll just like Chinese and views will have to worry about health safety.
Oh wow the ending was so badass! Your videos are really informative and I love the format, on all three channels. Keep doing the good work, have fun, stay awesome!
Excellent video explaining the drinking culture of china. Might be interesting to learn more about the culture of the boat river people eking out a living on the river.
The United States and the rest of the world. Have different definitions about what alcoholism is, i believe. In Europe you have to be dependent on alcohol, to function, To be designated as an alcoholic. I have more the feeling in the US frequent consumption or the amount. Is enough to get you labeled, as an alcoholic.
omg lol I live in a granny shack that I built in my granny's backyard with my dad. However it's very nice with my fish tanks and koi ponds and my pottery wheel right near by with my ballet floor on my roof adjacent to my rooftop garden xD
Is it OK to drink water while you drink at these meetings? I know if I split my drinking up water, alcohol, water alcohol and so on i can drink a hell of a lot more.
Hi, you two always have something interesting to say about living in China, I always look forward to watching any video you two create, thanks for all the hard work in putting them together, stay awesome.
Serious question here, I'm actually very curious about this. What is the general cultural and moral outlook on Marijuana, is it heavily frowned upon, do the police even care?
I was reading an interesting book about the one child policy. According to this book, the rising nationalism in China is encouraged by the government to keep all of those young single men loyal to the country. There was a revolt in the countryside, called the Nien Rebellion, by young single men the last time there was a huge gender imbalance.
Most Chinese are nationalists by nature for various reasons. Remember all the Kung Fu movies made by Bruce Lee which hold a strong pride of being China nationalist? Bruce is from Hong Kong and holds American visa. It has nothing to do with Chinese goverment
***** I cannot agree or disagree with your argument since I do not have the statistic, but still, these are three different things by definition. Personally I am nationalist but not racist. In terms of xenophobia, I consider myself to be realist, which in current world implies that any foreigner should be carefully checked on their ability to adapt life in China and deported at once when they commit crime, regardless of their race or belief or nationality.
You guys make a really bad day just that bit better, I started watching winston the churchill now onto C-milk then my wife found vivi's channel you are addictive. thanks for your uploads its a great distraction from crap in the world.
Hi guys, its pretty funny that this episode popped up. Because I have been binge watching your vlogs. To funny. I thin i will have a drink. Really like the content of your stuff, very thoughtful as im sure it has to be. Im in the great live free or die state of New Hampshire. Grew up in Brookline mass. About 40 blocks from Fenway park. Really enjoy your stuff. Thank you.
"If you live in a shack", I do, I live in a large tent in the woods in Virginia. The rent is too high here for me to afford my own place and I won't live with other people so thanks for that shout out guys.
how did you guys decide to merge your channels and go out in awesome biking adventures? is there a video on that? i think this format is a winner. i love this show
definitely ran into fake alcohol. It does not do the body good the next day. thankfully not much was consumed. But I can definitely second the statement about drinking in the north, everyone loves drinking in Beijing, and it can be a lot of fun.
Some neighbor was pointing to the couch and saying he let a friend stay there ;the next day when he went to wake him up on the couch he was all bluish and had died from drinking himself to death .. alcohol poisoning... it happens... for whatever reason not everybody vomits it all up out of their system.
In some way I am happy to live in Sweden where people have a habit to frown upon alcohol, which is fine for me as I am not drinking either, but not for moral reasons, but just because I never liked it (and especially not for boasting that I am a "man"). And that Swedish Anti-alcoholism has to do with history: until the 1930s, which is called the Poor Sweden Era, people were drinking themselves to death, leaving families behind, and some were even paid in alcohol instead of money ... then came the socialdemocrats and other movements for public health and they turned the rudder around, and still today 100 years later, Swedish people consider that era as a national shame and trauma. Of course, You will always find some people who dont give a shit about all that above, but again, they proove that they cannot deal with alcohol just because they are not used to it really. Finding a balance seems to be very difficult anywhere in the world. Thanks for the video, even if I watched it so late, I may think it would be still actual. Xiexie.
man i'm from Belgium, i think i would be the drinking god there lol. nothing to brag about, and i'm not an alcoholic. but in my younger years i remember finishing two bottles of rum and only had stuff like, talking on my phone and telling the person on the line with me i lost my phone cause its not in my pocket to check the time. heavier stuff i remember and i'm not proud of this... but i had drank a lot of stuff before hand that night. and i was stupid enough to down in one go half a bottle of whisky. and i remember drinking even more after that at some random music festival we decided to go to. that night i locked myself out of my car leaving the engine running and the lights on. so yeah i was still driving my car which is completely irresponsible. that is all in the passed now though. now i just drink a few trappists or abbey beer in the weekend with friends and call it a day :-).
I do think it's sad that even a lot of the most intelligent people feel the need to intoxicate themselves in order to have a good time a lot of the time. Alcohol is a poison and it should not be consumed at all by anyone. Then again it's not the only poison people use, it's kinda weird alcohol is the most normalized one though.
One girl I knew during school drank every single weekend. I never got why, because she is incredibly intelligent, chose the biology classes, so she knew all the downsides, but nevertheless she drank until she passed out or had to puke. I guess she had problems. I mean if someone is addicted I get that, however even an addict doesn't drink until he, or in this case she, pukes.
Listening to C-milk how he cracked his nuts while trying to ride his bike through yet another obstacle on yet another place where biking is not supposed to happen - priceless.
I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I was very surprised when I first moved to the South to see that you can buy alcohol in supermarkets and that you can get beer in any convenience store which is unheard of where I came from
With aerial shots in middle of your bike ride got me thinking for a while if your bike could fly also.. since it is China anything is possible, may be they have invented flying bikes..
Looks like you got another drone? If I recall you had to send the 1st one back after the evaluation? Thanks for the info I went ahead and picked up a DJI Phantom 4 after seeing your footage.
Hay guys really enjoyed that episode as in Australia just like Germany we have one of the biggest if not biggest drinking cultures in the world. Just recently had a Christmas party for work and we have a lot of mostly Chinese girls and a couple of guys from our warehouse. My secret is before a big night have a couple of glasses of milk to line the stomach and a good meal and I can sink one after the other with if you can a glass or two of water as not to dehdrate. At my Work Christmas party one girl that I liked(that's how I got watching both your channels and this one only lasted about 3 champagnes and a few spirts and bang gone.) Only one girl lasted as long as I did she was a good drinker but bang gone the guys forget it useless. Though most of them where from Taiwan is there any difference between the mainland and Taiwanese Chinese people. Now that would be a good comparison on any subject.
My best memories of drinking were in southeast Asia in Indonesia, just sitting by the dive shop pool, literally on the main street, just getting wasted.
Here in the U.S. (in my experience) drinking sometimes does become competitive as you guys are saying. I'm not fond of drinking as much as the next guy, so I used to get shit from my friends all the time for only having 2-3 beers in my early 20s. I don't think it's that different. I went to a small gathering for the Chinese New Year a few years ago hosted by my friends family (who are main-landers.) So much Píjiǔ and "Ganbei"s all around. Every 5 seconds was another Ganbei. lol I couldn't hang.
3:30 "I am not an alcoholic". That's what every alcoholic would say, Winston. :)
Quitters never win and Winners never quit!
I accompanied a friend who was a wreck to an AA meeting once and tried to tell people that I wasn't myself an alcoholic. Ha. On the whole, it's rather odd, it's better not to utter such an assertion.
Yes! indeed.english man in China.
@@marvinmartian7281 Not English South African 🇦🇫
@sneksnekitsasnek'Dorky' 😂
"gave us a lot of corona"
17:49 - They ... gave us copious amounts of corona, which is not my favorite.
Here in the 2020 hellscape as well I see
They knew 0.0
Corona beer
These were simpler times lad....
Have you ever thought about making a "behind the scenes" video? I'd be very interested in how you prepare your bike adventures, how you decide for a route, how you set up cameras and microphones, how you prepare for the topic you talk about (it seems like you do prepare a general outline before?), how you cut the video, how you go through the hassle of uploading it from china,...
agree!!!!!
+1
Definitely! I'd love to see that!
If you don't want to put it on youtube, make a really good and detailed video about it and put it on vimeo on demand. I wouldn't mind paying a dollar or two for that ;)
That would make for an interesting video. Afaik they either never read your message or took no notice and it’s a great shame. I also would have liked a ‘behind the scenes’ video too.
My father worked for Thyssen in Germany in a factory where basically all non-German workers were Portuguese. The other day a Chinese from Macau started working in the company and they took him to a Portuguese clubhouse next to the factory and drank withhim. It was crazy because he passed out they called emergency a helicopter took him to a hospital but he died. He was propably dead allready in the helicopter. Mom was realy angry at dad because he was there in the club. The Macau guy had family and all and died after his first day at work in Germany...
thats crazy
I’m sure he wasn’t forced into drinking the alcohol and was old enough to know the risks. It’s a great shame on his first day there, but those around him should not be made to feel guilty, unless they were literally pouring alcohol down his throat against his will.
@@YungMonie007 in Marocco?
@@AbsoluteMiniacGena I mean when you come from a culture where your manliness is based on how much you can drink you might be inclined to try to keep up. Bad shit.
@@bigwendigo2253 I come from islamic culture where we successfully banned that shitty drug
I really like how you guys hand off the conversation between each other so well.
it is so ironic that the country with arguably the most popular drinking culture has also the largest alcohol allergic group of the world, Asian glow, is actually very common among chinese people, it is basically acetaldehyde intoxication, and can be carcinogenic if the intoxicated person keeps drinking very often, because it can cause esophagus cancer.
Lee Ma I am 100% English and used to easily drink 10 pints of lager snakebite in a night back to when I was 18/19 and then I fell out with my drinking buddy as she married a man she knew was violent after he thumped me one night as I’d gone back to their home with her, I gave her the option to either leave with me or stay with him as I wasn’t going to risk having a night out only to get whacked by him again . She stayed with him and I quit drinking . I went on to marry myself and have children and so it was almost 20 years before I had alcohol again and I just cannot drink without getting excruciating aches which develop into pain in my arms. It happens after just a few sips of an alcopop yet never happened in my true drinking days of speed drinking and wet T shirt contests.
I'm half japanese ,and I definitely have this problem, as well. I'm the most lightweight drinker you've ever seen. 1 or 2 beers and it actually gets hard for me to breathe. My whole body gets really hot. If I drink a lot of hard liquor, I get itchy hives on my ankles.
What happens if you are at a business meeting and you cant drink? I quit drinking a few years ago and I just refuse to drink when someone offers. I usually say its a health problem, but in reality I'm a sober alcoholic and its a huge risk for me to have any amount, a risk i will never take. Can you explain that? Or do they see that as weakness?
They hinted on that in the video. It's like a lawyer where if you can't afford one one will be appointed to you. In the video they said you would have someone drink for you
I'm really enjoying your videos. I've been binge watching all day. Thank you!
There is so much echo in this episode
Agreed - its weird when their audio is normally so good.
It's a fairly old episode so I'm sure that has something to do with the quality
and i thought it was on purpose to imitate drunkiness
They often had bother with their intercoms
There's no echo, you're just drunk! Go home!
I drink baiju only when I am eating spicy Hunan or Szechuan foods, and only in small sips. Baiju has a strong aroma which compliments the spicy Chinese foods. It is heavenly when enjoyed this way. It was never intended to be gulped or binge-drunk, just like a fine cognac for Europeans.
Spot on about the challenge drinking in China.
I remember when I went to China to meet my wife's family and friends, every single night was like a challenge to see how much baijiu laowai could drink. Luckily at the time I was much younger and in good form so I could drink all of them under the table.
For me though I enjoyed baijiu the first time I tried it. I tried to tell my wife I thought that it tasted like pineapple, but she didn't think so. Glad someone else thinks it tastes like pineapple as well.
I was too busy studying for my Chinese quiz that is due tomorrow and I missed your livestream!!
oh, by the way, I am studying Mandarin because of you guys. You fellas are great.
keep up the great videos.
why you want to learn mandarin?
+King of HuaQiangBei Same reason for why you want to learn English. Hehe.
save the world?
Cyraxsify save the world?
English or Spanish is better to learn than Mandarin, because it's spoken in more countries. Mandarin is primarily only spoken in China.
This video reminds me of when I first went to visit my wife's family in the North East of China for Chinese New Year. One of her uncles got so drunk that he died. That was a shicking introduction to Chinese drinking culture.
Great video, guys! Discussing all kinds of things while showing us bits of China each time is a great idea. I enjoy the back-and-forth banter and the motorcycle footage equally well.
The most difficult thing in China can be finding a proper cold beer in some places, with many Chinese normally drinking their beer warm. They regard it too expensive to keep fridges running and just get used to it. When you then ask for a cold beer, they will often offer you a glass with ice cubes in it.
they dont have in family mart fridges?
Also in people's homes, they often drink their beer warm, because they are used to doing that when they go out. Also experienced it in a nightclub in Quanzhou.
+Xiao Lin About two days ago in Hubei, was just the latest example. Not a poor family either, with the 00001 number plate for the region and curiously with a family link with a local brewery. However they went out especially to buy cold beer, as they had been drinking their beer straight from the carton on the floor, despite having a large fridge in the kitchen. Not the first or last such encounter I've had around many parts of China.
Totally true that. You often get bewildered looks from restaurant folks in Beijing when they brought you a warm beer and you are telling them (friendly) that you would like a cold one... then they either bring you another one they claim is cold (but isn't) or a glass with ice cubes in it. Well, it's about other beer drinking habits, on a side note: it also took me some time to get used to that warm water thing at restaurants )))
I always drink my beer warm. Especially lagers that don't have much flavor to begin with.
This is the only channel that would actually have a purpose for 360 filming (though mount it on the bike handle bar, not on your head, that would get people sick).
Yeah, but then the usefulness of a 360° camera goes down. A fourth of the shot would just be a close-up of C-milk or Winston's torso.
It should be helmet mounted, but also gyroscopically locked. Like a chicken's head.
during WWII my grandparents said the soldiers would drink ethanol or airplane fuel or torpedo fuel E85. and he would say don't do that you will go blind.
i'll be moving to china for work soon, and this is great to know, cheers for the videos guys, been a longtime subscriber so it's great to see videos like this one
I've always had a love hate relation ship with the drinking culture in China. Since I like in the Northeast, people drink very heavily all the time. Most meals start with baijui and then once that bottle is finished move on to beers. My problem is I don't go much for beer. Understatement - I hate beer with a vengeance and it hates me. Every other kind of drink is fine but not beer.
So I would be fine at the beginning of the night, drinking the baijui, but once it finished, and the beers came out, I would refuse it. People would be all confused and a little insulted that I wouldn't continue drinking with them longer.
I also, because of this, found out something interesting about baijui - Chinese people don't like the taste either. They drink it at the beginning to try to get a bit tipsy quickly. Once the bottle is empty, they want to move on to nicer, lighter, drinks. If I suggested that we continue drinking another bottle of baijui, I would get lots of very sad faces. Nobody wanted to keep drinking that all night.
The best fun I had was two years ago at Xmas. I was having dinner with some rich business men who liked to try to out drink me. They could come close, but couldn't. The previous year, one of them had bought some absinthe in France and we got quite drunk on that, so this year I brought some Polish made Spirytus that is 98% by volume. That night they never got onto the beers. Before the bottle was empty, one of them threw up, then quietly stole the bottle off the table and flushed the last couple of shots down the toilet.
My solution to the not drinking beer, was to bring my own drinks to the restaurant. All my Chinese friends and family have now got seriously into red wine and Scottish whisky. Also, the need to drink you under the table dissipates once they know you and have made you through up once. When people are new friends, they push to drink to the limit and beyond but once they have taken you to that limit, they will lay off and let you just get very drunk, not extremely drunk.
One day I was in a sideroad barbecue drinking with my colleagues from the school. And then one food courier, who was drinking alone on a separate table, heard that we were talking Russian. As it turns out, he had learnt Russian in university and could speak on a very elementary level, so he came up to us and he started talking to us. We drank beer together and after some time when beers finished he ordered a bottle of baijiu. We started drinking baijiu and got very drunk. After a bottle of baijiu he became very obsessive and obtrusive, wanted to continue this night with us. But we inderstood that he was very drunk and got out of control, so we paid the bill and told him we were going home. But he wanted to hang out with us wherever we went. We tried to hide from him around the corner when we went out of the food outlet and waited until he loses sight of us and goes away. Then we saw that he had spotted us around the corner and tried to run away, he started following us. It was scary being followed by some mad guy. Eventually, we we able to flag a taxi and got in. The moment we got in and set out, I could see from the window that this guy had almost got hold of us as he was following us. I could see him being 5 metres from the car and he was very furious that we ditched him
Great video guys, I didn't know fake alcohol even existed, it must be kinda scary going out to drink knowing you could come across that sort of stuff. The closest thing to fake alcohol where I'm from (Italy) is some home brewed liquor from WWII, when poor people used rubbing alcohol to make liquor cause it had some sort of chemical in it that made it taste good and it was inexpensive, but luckily nobody makes alcohol like that anymore.
Btw I just bought Conquering Southern China, can't wait to watch it!
Both of you guys are FULL of vitality. Congrats!
I don't drink at all, not because I'm super religious or anything, I just hate it. Hate the way I feel during and after drinking. Just listening to their drinking stories made me feel sick.
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I don't think being a drinker or being able to hold one's liquor is anything to really brag about... I always hated it when people try to pressure others to drink like a pig and they really put a lot of pressure on a person
Believe me in Russia and China its viewed as hard, but its a load of Bullshit, you destroy your liver, the reason you get high is cause your liver can't flush the poison out fast enough, I can't drink cause of Liver problems, I imagine those tough guys who can drink others under tables won't live long if they continue drinking, the Liver is so important to life and drinking is just abusing that organ.
After like mid 20s I realized drinking is so pointless. It just weakens me and moves me away from my goals
Totally agree mate, until my mid twenties I used to go to the pub on weekends and get pissed with my mates on beers and cigarettes and it still is the thing to do here in the UK for people in their 20's sad for these guys, they'll realize this when in their 50's or even earlier.
My father (a retired chemical engineer from Newcastle Australia) went to China on numerous occasions throughout the 80's, often months at a time. He talked of many banquets with his Chinese work colleagues, the men using a spittoon and burping to show their enjoyment of the meal. But he never engaged in a drinking competition. By the sounds of it apart from the spitting and burping, the people were pretty conservative alcohol wise at least the ones he encountered. But the 80's were a different era I guess.
Mongolians do the same thing, I'm a Marine grunt, I pride myself on holding my liquor and being fairly well travled with this planet's bars and drinking dens.
I have never been so blasted in my LIFE as when I went out drinking with the mongolians.
There will be these little 90 pound mongolian chicks popping down vodka like its friggin water all night, and thats just their women.
They dont take no for an answer either! youre like "no no, im too drunk" and they fill your glass and all start bullying, cajoling, and cheering you on, you aint leaving until you drink it. Then they fill it back up again.........
BREEKI BRO I read that Mongolia has a bar for every 200 people there. It's a huge problem there.
This is so fucking true oh Lord.
most guys i drank with in china had the intolerance thing. they could only manage around 1 or 2 beers before becoming totally red faced and wasted. i faced this 'challenge' you guys speak of while eating donkey with a bunch of people i just met. this one guy was drinking baijiu, i tried to keep up with him. and i did, until i got home that is. luckily they never found out how much i puked up so they thought i was great at drinking and had mad respect. that guy was not a typical red faced chinese guy, he was a baijiu master.
Its called Asian flush or Asian glow. Asians (+Native Americans) have trouble to metabolize alcohol because of a genetic variant that impairs production of an enzyme that helps metabolize alcohol in the liver. Other races use to produce enzyme Acetaldehyde dehydrogenase(ALDH) in a form called ALD2 while Asians's liver produce variant ALD2*2 that is only about 8% as efficient as ALD2 at metabolizing acetaldehyde (an alkohole metabolite).
just because they flush does not mean they are intoxicated. The number of std drinks to become tipsy is still the same...they just stay tipsy for longer. No big deal.
barrelrolldog, Do you know how odd and strangely funny it is to read someone state, "while eating donkey with a bunch of people I just met..." BTW, what are you going to do WITH ALL THAT TIME you saved by not capitalizing your "i's" and beginnings of sentences?
It really depends which part of China you go to.
ezra limm, they do not get intoxicated. Instead, they get ill from the booze.
I enjoyed my stay in China (even as a black man), but yes, they drink A LOT in China and the thing that I hated seeing was (I'd hate to gross anyone out with what I'm about to say beware),but I hated seeing people vomit in restaurants WHILE I was eating. It was VERY VERY disgusting. That's the other thing that I'd say about Chinese drinking that would be a culture shock to some if a person is in China long enough.
Fascinating ! Great video, one of my favourites
Waking up 36 hours later, vomit all over your floor, pants half off. That's some serious shit right there. Can you even imagine how bad the vomit must've smelled after sitting on the floor for 36 hours?
these riding around shooting the shit videos are simply awesome guys. kudos to you
I go to China for business. Yes there are business dinners where there is lots of alcohol but not that much where anybody gets sick or gets very drunk. Sometimes we even play table tennis afterwards although play suffers. Good times.
I was actually almost drunk, in china watching this video ;)
Thanks for the tips guys. Love your channels. Keep it up.
All the best
Just watched 2 episodes of Conquering Southern China, good stuff lads! I'm already saddened I only have 50mins left.
Awesome Vblog concept, nice to watch and listen, interesting stuff too.. well done.
"living shack" god damn it I spilled my tea
great episode!
fake beer when beer is so easy to make? as a home brewer this saddens me.
Its usually real beer just not branded/counterfeit.
No good for me then...I only drink one beer or one glass of wine, then I stick to mineral water or diet cokes....I may lose face to the locals, but I keep my wits
Two drinks for me. My Mum was always counting even when I was in my 50's.
*lol I am practically unable to get drunk and as soon as I tell someone that they instantly try and get me drunk.*
_For reference: 10 bourbons shots/2 hour and I felt NOTHING (I'm 5'4" skinny girl, I don't drink)._
Passed all the drunk tests and everything.
edit: *I always win drinking contests, so I guess thats good*
@@knowledgeiskey1319 watch your liver
@@tashajoykin5192 lol thx, dw i dont drink, maybe once a year, just as an experiment.
Absolutely brilliant vids from you guys. Love what you do:-))
I went on a road trip to New Mexico and i was surprised by how you can't buy beer or any alcohol from convenience stores
a while ago there was a guy in his mid-late 50s trying to buy a 6er in line ahead of me, & the 18 Y.O. cashier was giving him a hard time. He had a veterans cap on, & was understandably starting to get frustrated because he had a bum leg & would have to walk back to his car for his ID. I stepped in & told the cashier that this "young punk" was trying to get me to buy him beer out front for him & his young friends, & not to sell to him because he's clearly under 21. We all had a laugh, diffusing the situation, & the cashier relented after realizing how absurd it all was. It frustrates me, because when you have a 1000 stupid little rules like this to constantly be aware of, you can actually see people being stripped of their humanity & reason
a man in america just got out of prison after 3 years. His crime?
Selling lobsters in the wrong bag...
***** This is why Trump is winning, he's anti establishment, and the establishment is anti citizen
+DavidRsaid lol so you want to live in a jungle with absolutely no laws? yes you can't sell using your personal property because you'll just like Chinese and views will have to worry about health safety.
+RasputinReview lol you mean he's against himself? IQ lever below 50.
Oh wow the ending was so badass!
Your videos are really informative and I love the format, on all three channels.
Keep doing the good work, have fun, stay awesome!
I swear you have the best video intro on RUclips.
I saw gasoline-汽油 label next to the disel 柴油。。。so what happened to that part of fueling story ? Still scratching my head……
Excellent video explaining the drinking culture of china. Might be interesting to learn more about the culture of the boat river people eking out a living on the river.
this is such great times guys. bikes your mate and being able to talk and record. my dream
All alcoholics say their not alcoholic.
denial is the first sign. if you admit you are an alcoholic, you are. if you deny it, you are.
The United States and the rest of the world. Have different definitions about what alcoholism is, i believe. In Europe you have to be dependent on alcohol, to function, To be designated as an alcoholic. I have more the feeling in the US frequent consumption or the amount. Is enough to get you labeled, as an alcoholic.
Alcoholic: Somebody who drinks more than me
Erueti Foster Oh damn! Mr. Moral Man sure told you us 😉
Erueti Foster Oh damn! Mr. Moral Man sure told us 😉
man I love you guys, someday I hope to meet you! Life is long and I am patient!
omg lol I live in a granny shack that I built in my granny's backyard with my dad. However it's very nice with my fish tanks and koi ponds and my pottery wheel right near by with my ballet floor on my roof adjacent to my rooftop garden xD
I really liked this video! you guys were pretty spot on about the drinking culture, and you're right, it can be fun as hell!
Is it OK to drink water while you drink at these meetings? I know if I split my drinking up water, alcohol, water alcohol and so on i can drink a hell of a lot more.
Anthropology major here appreciating you guys more than you know
Love that i found this channel. I ride a yamaha fz7, traveled all over, from vienna to anchorage. And I drink!
Hi, you two always have something interesting to say about living in China, I always look forward to watching any video you two create, thanks for all the hard work in putting them together, stay awesome.
Nice ride and good info what more could you ask for. The drone shot at the end was very cool. Thank you guys .
Serious question here, I'm actually very curious about this.
What is the general cultural and moral outlook on Marijuana, is it heavily frowned upon, do the police even care?
I've finally gotten round to buying my copy of Conquering Southern China, I look forward to watching it cheers guys!
I was reading an interesting book about the one child policy. According to this book, the rising nationalism in China is encouraged by the government to keep all of those young single men loyal to the country. There was a revolt in the countryside, called the Nien Rebellion, by young single men the last time there was a huge gender imbalance.
now, government is encouraging two children for each family.
Most Chinese are nationalists by nature for various reasons. Remember all the Kung Fu movies made by Bruce Lee which hold a strong pride of being China nationalist? Bruce is from Hong Kong and holds American visa. It has nothing to do with Chinese goverment
***** racism is not nationalism
***** I cannot agree or disagree with your argument since I do not have the statistic, but still, these are three different things by definition. Personally I am nationalist but not racist. In terms of xenophobia, I consider myself to be realist, which in current world implies that any foreigner should be carefully checked on their ability to adapt life in China and deported at once when they commit crime, regardless of their race or belief or nationality.
Rude John. now that's generalization Mr sexpat
The floating shack thing was interesting. Lakes back home in America used to be like that years ago.
You guys make a really bad day just that bit better, I started watching winston the churchill now onto C-milk then my wife found vivi's channel you are addictive. thanks for your uploads its a great distraction from crap in the world.
I love the music at the beginning.
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST CHANNELS ON RUclips, THANKS-YA'LL STAY AWESOME ^_=)!
No alcohol on a sunday? Defo not a rule in Britain, we spend all day drinking and watching football xD
Hi guys, its pretty funny that this episode popped up. Because I have been binge watching your vlogs. To funny. I thin i will have a drink. Really like the content of your stuff, very thoughtful as im sure it has to be. Im in the great live free or die state of New Hampshire. Grew up in Brookline mass. About 40 blocks from Fenway park. Really enjoy your stuff. Thank you.
on a binge watch of this guys vids. good shit
Great video. Cmilks story about getting a raise after that binge was hilarious
I love the way drone shots are added so casually.
Good job guys. (Though I don't drink alcohol.)
"If you live in a shack", I do, I live in a large tent in the woods in Virginia. The rent is too high here for me to afford my own place and I won't live with other people so thanks for that shout out guys.
Id love to see an episode on marihuana culture in China, u know, laws, growing, smoking etc. Cheers from Chile! lova ya both guys
Great video and live stream earlier. I hope to meet up with you guys sometime after I arrive in Guangzhou in November.
Best channel on RUclips guys, Bravo!
When you guys showing us the inside of Hospitals?
Cheers!
Great video guys. As always, the drone shots look awesome ;)
how did you guys decide to merge your channels and go out in awesome biking adventures? is there a video on that?
i think this format is a winner. i love this show
oh and how the fuck do you get those aerial views and shots from far away, wtf?!
basteagui I asked myself all the same things lol
Lekker!
definitely ran into fake alcohol. It does not do the body good the next day. thankfully not much was consumed. But I can definitely second the statement about drinking in the north, everyone loves drinking in Beijing, and it can be a lot of fun.
说的很好~ 我有个朋友以前在学校喝酒，买到了假酒，昏过去了，吐了一地。几个哥们帮他清理了一晚上都没睡觉。（我能听懂你说的所有英文，但是懒得打英文，每次都用中文回复，不介意吧哈哈哈 :）
@advchina you can drink in public in the United States if you're in my home town, New Orleans.
Damn, now I need a drink.
1 is too many ,1000 drinks is not enough
Chill, wait at least until 10am. Only alcoholics drink before 10h (right?).
I have a question about the seafood coming out of China. is it SAFE to eat. Thanks guys.
I would be cautious, the waters are often polluted near and around China
What types of difficulties could a sober man encounter in China as a result of not drinking? Have you any advice for this case?
youd probably be seen as weak but eh who cares what other people think. Do what you want
Great video. You two guys make great videos. I wish you both all the best in the future. God bless everyone.....
Some neighbor was pointing to the couch and saying he let a friend stay there ;the next day when he went to wake him up on the couch he was all bluish and had died from drinking himself to death .. alcohol poisoning... it happens... for whatever reason not everybody vomits it all up out of their system.
They have petrol there, did you see 汽油?
In some way I am happy to live in Sweden where people have a habit to frown upon alcohol, which is fine for me as I am not drinking either, but not for moral reasons, but just because I never liked it (and especially not for boasting that I am a "man"). And that Swedish Anti-alcoholism has to do with history: until the 1930s, which is called the Poor Sweden Era, people were drinking themselves to death, leaving families behind, and some were even paid in alcohol instead of money ... then came the socialdemocrats and other movements for public health and they turned the rudder around, and still today 100 years later, Swedish people consider that era as a national shame and trauma. Of course, You will always find some people who dont give a shit about all that above, but again, they proove that they cannot deal with alcohol just because they are not used to it really. Finding a balance seems to be very difficult anywhere in the world.
Thanks for the video, even if I watched it so late, I may think it would be still actual. Xiexie.
Nice video! What are you filming with (on your chest)?
+Isaac Vandenberg gopro hero 4
I love that you can use the bike path
you can buy alcohol at any time at any place in England? 24/7 we have clubs open till 12am the next day. no Sunday drinking?
HA! the kazaam reference caught me off guard and got a good laugh outta me.
Someone got it!
man i'm from Belgium, i think i would be the drinking god there lol. nothing to brag about, and i'm not an alcoholic. but in my younger years i remember finishing two bottles of rum and only had stuff like, talking on my phone and telling the person on the line with me i lost my phone cause its not in my pocket to check the time. heavier stuff i remember and i'm not proud of this... but i had drank a lot of stuff before hand that night. and i was stupid enough to down in one go half a bottle of whisky. and i remember drinking even more after that at some random music festival we decided to go to. that night i locked myself out of my car leaving the engine running and the lights on. so yeah i was still driving my car which is completely irresponsible. that is all in the passed now though. now i just drink a few trappists or abbey beer in the weekend with friends and call it a day :-).
I do think it's sad that even a lot of the most intelligent people feel the need to intoxicate themselves in order to have a good time a lot of the time. Alcohol is a poison and it should not be consumed at all by anyone. Then again it's not the only poison people use, it's kinda weird alcohol is the most normalized one though.
One girl I knew during school drank every single weekend.
I never got why, because she is incredibly intelligent, chose the biology classes, so she knew all the downsides, but nevertheless she drank until she passed out or had to puke. I guess she had problems.
I mean if someone is addicted I get that, however even an addict doesn't drink until he, or in this case she, pukes.
Listening to C-milk how he cracked his nuts while trying to ride his bike through yet another obstacle on yet another place where biking is not supposed to happen - priceless.
I'm originally from Pennsylvania and I was very surprised when I first moved to the South to see that you can buy alcohol in supermarkets and that you can get beer in any convenience store which is unheard of where I came from
Great job! Keep up the awesome work
The story of C-Milk stepping in to help out his father-in-law and keep the flag high seemed kinda sweet to me.
With aerial shots in middle of your bike ride got me thinking for a while if your bike could fly also.. since it is China anything is possible, may be they have invented flying bikes..
i have never actually tried drinking binge. whats it taste like?
Another great story guys. Dongbei people and Inner Mongolians sure do like a drink. Normal drinking baijiu anywhere from 25% to 67% alcohol.
Looks like you got another drone? If I recall you had to send the 1st one back after the evaluation? Thanks for the info I went ahead and picked up a DJI Phantom 4 after seeing your footage.
Borrowing a Phantom 3 now, it's not nearly as good but we have it for another week
Rather apt that the duration of your video is also the name of a well known Mad Dog fortified wine.
It happens here. You drink until you drop or with older men, until you fall asleep.
Hay guys really enjoyed that episode as in Australia just like Germany we have one of the biggest if not biggest drinking cultures in the world. Just recently had a Christmas party for work and we have a lot of mostly Chinese girls and a couple of guys from our warehouse. My secret is before a big night have a couple of glasses of milk to line the stomach and a good meal and I can sink one after the other with if you can a glass or two of water as not to dehdrate. At my Work Christmas party one girl that I liked(that's how I got watching both your channels and this one only lasted about 3 champagnes and a few spirts and bang gone.) Only one girl lasted as long as I did she was a good drinker but bang gone the guys forget it useless. Though most of them where from Taiwan is there any difference between the mainland and Taiwanese Chinese people. Now that would be a good comparison on any subject.
My best memories of drinking were in southeast Asia in Indonesia, just sitting by the dive shop pool, literally on the main street, just getting wasted.
What location is this?
Great video! How does it come this is filmed in 21/9 but the other videos are filmed in 16/9?
Here in the U.S. (in my experience) drinking sometimes does become competitive as you guys are saying. I'm not fond of drinking as much as the next guy, so I used to get shit from my friends all the time for only having 2-3 beers in my early 20s. I don't think it's that different.
I went to a small gathering for the Chinese New Year a few years ago hosted by my friends family (who are main-landers.) So much Píjiǔ and "Ganbei"s all around. Every 5 seconds was another Ganbei. lol I couldn't hang.