@@PureVikingPowers WTF his friends and classmates were holding real, engineering jobs years ago already, building Iphones. If he can't at the very least do a quality, _comprehensible_ Inception rip-off, what good is he. They probably cut off too much of the umilical cord when he was born. I hear thats where the maths, engineering and art quality glands are at. TL;DR I'm glad to see young minds still endulge in creativity. There is so much we need to know to be well prepared for current day society, its important that we make sure creativity still have good room. If we don't leave room for that, society and development stagnate. Then regress.
China has many projects to copy landscape, building style and tourist attraction from all famous places in the world so more tourists will pick this cheap option to visit China and spend more money.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3279196/Inside-507-million-fake-Venice-Chinese-tourists-flock-cloned-canal-city-man-waterways-gondoliers-copies-Renaissance-paintings.html. Here is the link. The city was projected by french architects. Great idea in my view.
They used the starwars theme at my wedding, before my wife entered with her dad (not the canteena theme). There is video evidence of me losing my shit on stage as I couldn't stop laughing
Plagiarism , Chinese phd student at a U.K university where i live was arrested and locked up for copying another's work . It's quite a serious thing at U.K uni's . Not too sure if the student was aware of thus fact , or just didn't consider it a big deal . Not sure how long he was imprisoned for , but was subsequently kicked out of U.K after release. Dad's money couldn't buy him out of trouble over here .
What you want to prove here? When a Chinese plagiarises, you are freaking surprised, " omg! Chinese all cheating". And if British cheats, you will say: "oh, he just a guy with bad charaters, it doesn't matter. Most of British will never cheat." In fact, during 3 years Undergraduate study, I reported 3 cases of cheating on exam. Two of them are British, one is Korean. Me and my friend may review together
The whole time they’re in the church art gallery I can’t help but imagine that Burk(the artist) is hiding behind one of the pillars or something bawling his eyes out as they tear into his life’s work.
I beg to differ. His art is so bad that I think he knows it's bad. If he were hiding in that church, listening to them, he'd be laughing in his sleeve.
+imhellag I want everything on bikes with head cams now. I feel like this format is so much more interesting than the typical cam in the face all the time.
Yo, I am a Chinese myself, and i find your videos about China are so so true and funny. Keep is up and i want to know more about my country from you :)
Great Video - I just wanted to mention further on the original creativity. I'm an Architect and Engineer - and it amazed me after venturing to China, that most of the signature awesome looking architecture was all boutique projects designed by western architects and in many cases the serious looking buildings engineered likewise by European, American or Australian firms. Do the locals hold any of this in their mind when so passionate about the cities they find themselves in?
There is a lot to be said for the "Mess with one of us, then you mess with all of us." attitude. We could do with some of that kind of instinctive unity in the west.
As an artist and just a guess, I suspect this chap/"artist" manages to sell that rubbish as the average easterner is not used to seeing talented western artwork.
This was great guys!! So awesome that you are like doing a visual podcast with this recording audio while riding the bikes. I've never seen anybody else here in the states ever do it like that as a produced edited video work to listen and watch. Super cool. I really appreciate your production quality.
LOL "Well done Burke you made it" I woke up at 3:20am and though "lets see what they guys have done today" I enjoy your gentle critique and gentle sarcasm, I've learnt a lot. You guys are really giving people an historical view of what China is like right now. Obviously as usual lots of love.
I live in lafayette louisiana and in 2002-4 they had this corner shop with a homemade 7-11 sign. a poorly designed one at that. it stayed there for a few months before they were forced to change the name. I'm not sure what year which is why I said 02-04. A lot of locally owned places steal names of big brands. for instance there is this huge skateboard company called Rukkus. well now we have a skates hop called Rukus with 1 k. that's just one example. or another is anything peanuts or scooby do. there's a towing company called scooby do that even has all the characters painted on the side of their trucks with the mystery machine van as well.
Excellent vids guys. Just found you today. I have been spending a lot of time in China over the last couple of years...up to four months at a time. Your comments and take aways are right on the money, and have helped me to see things even more clearly regarding my own experiences in China. Thanks!!
That has been a hallmark policy of the Chinese Government (acquiring Western companies) for a long time now, and it's actually quite smart. Because it is seemingly at the least, a legal (and more ethical) way to acquire Western technology.
I like your videos and ALWAYS give a *thumbs up*. I feel that it is the least I can do for you tubers who put so much time and effort into making quality content...such as you guys do. Much appreciated guys.
1:41 C-Milk pulls out an astonishing thesis about a connection to the chinese history. 2:28 Winston is thinking "wtf is this guy on about? supply and demand man".
The funniest thing here is a discussion about piracy with one guy whose name is Yolo swaggins... And actually my name is sol Cutta, his is derivative, mine is actual carbon copyright.. Hahah.. So there u have it.
Interesting about the star wars theme song. There used to be a series in China that used the Braveheart soundtrack, on a loop, for the entire episodes. Seriously. I had the same CD. It was literally just the CD, on a loop.
You guys are great! Thanks for filming your road travels, it's a unique and powerful way of seeing the Chinese landscape. I'm very interested in infrastructure, architecture, how people and nature interact across the earth, and you're showing it beautifully.
I had a junior chinese engineer working for me that when he was supposed to design a circuit he copied one that was already patented. I was suspicious because he completed the design far too quickly. Theother thing that drives me crazy with the Chinese is that they will continually tell me everything is fine until the day they are supposed to deliver and then they fail.
There was also the case with Sea-Gull 1963 chronographs. A decade ago or so Sea-Gull (=Tianjin Watch Factory) reissued one of their older models of watches that had been issued to PLA pilots in the 60s. It was a limited edition. However, a few years ago, these same watches popped up again, made by a few other companies (Red Star, for instance), but with the same, perfectly legit Sea-Gull movements (ST19). So it's kinda of a Chinese copy of a Chinese watch, but kinda not, since they all use legit ST19 movements. Then Sea-Gull decided to take advantage from the rising popularity of the 1963 chronograph (thanks to those other companies) and released another limited edition of the same chronographs, with small differences though, for 400$ when the other companies were selling it for 200 - 300$.
When Winston said he learned "Ni hao" from a Japanese anime I instantly thought Ranma 1/2 lol. Good channel you guys I've Been subbed to SerpentZA, Laowhy86, and Prozzie for a bit now (I'm catching up on some stuff I missed) and I got to say even though it seems you guys talk about a lot of bad stuff it still looks like a cool experience to come and stay in China for a visit. What I've found to be true is everybody talks a little smack about where they live anyways :P . With that said your adventures look really fun and I'm always learning something every video. So once again Tyvm for all the awesome content.
Death yeah they're like npcs in real life kinda like social justice warriors they all use the same insult,same ideology,same talking point,same opinions and same virtue signalling they have no creativity they just copy their insults and opinionslike sheeps
The low mounted camera makes me remember when I was just a small kid, riding with my father on his Vespa. I had to stand in front of the seat, hold on to the handle bars, and looking barely over the instrument. :-)
You two Brothers are a riot !LoL! Nice Job Fellas Great Work on the Video and Your first-hand LoOk into the Life of the Chinese people . You gave me a glimpse into their CrOoked ways in the realm of Piracy!LoL!Much Love to You Fellas, i Pray the Best for Both of You and Your Love Ones !!Keep Up the Excellent Work !!
Lucky my dad escaped China when he was a teenager around the cultural revolution time. He was very creative, inventive, also very unique and outspoken. I don’t think he would had survived in China if he stayed.
I really have taken great interest and great delight in watching your videos. I have learned more about China from watching your videos than I have from any other source. I am glad that you show all sides of China, not just the good or just the bad, but everything in a totally objective, not subjective manner. And I have given you a "thumbs up" on every single video that I have watched. And I have been watching your videos EVERY DAY (usually multiple videos on any given day) over the course of the past couple weeks, after I saw the first video. And, of course, I am a subscriber. Keep up the good work guys!
Hey SerpentZA and C-Milk, thanks for the video and I just wanted to say some things about Hallstatt (since I'm from Austria, born in Salzburg but living in Vienna now). They copied Hallstatt because it is said that is one of the most beautiful village (or city) you can visit in Austria. The church you visited in the copy village isn't a church at all. It looks from the outside like a church but it is missing a lot of things inside: the small water wells at the entrance, where the holy water is stored, the benches for people and the most important thing: there is no altar or a cross behind the altar. I went with my wife to real Hallstatt and we met a lot of Chinese tourists there. The strangest thing was they wanted to photograph our food that we ordered. You can also rent "Trachten", traditional clothings in the town, they even put an Asian person (can't tell if it was Japanese or Chinese) on the outside of the store as advertisement. It was very weird to see Chinese people in Trachten going around.
+Chris Dooley Different setting and that's about it. Doesn't sound like you have been to China but hey you still felt entitled to jump on the mainstream circle jerk.
Yeah, no. They're different worlds. I've spent a decent amount of time in both. I'd happily move to HK, I'll no longer even go to the mainland to see my in-laws
"gauges don't work on his bike" *The electronic gauge? Generally cameras don't have the same refresh rate as displays. Eg a camera shows a dot for what the eye sees as a "8".*
Dai Qibao His g-a-u-g-e-s... Google "gauge". they're the thing's that tell you how fast you are going and how many RPMs the engine is doing. The gigantic ROUND things attached to his handlebars. You don't own a vehicle do you? lol The electronic component is not a gauge, it's a scrolling advertisement for his website...
NorthernChev "The electronic component is a scrolling advertisement for his website." *Oh, okay. My best guess is it didn't work when we bought the bike and there's no point in fixing it.* *A reason can be to prevent odometer readings for a higher resale value. In Japan, video of a speed "gauge" above the posted limit can result in a fine delivered to the owner. On RUclips, videos of speeding odometer readings has been videos that where disabled.* *FYI The scrolling advertisement device looks very much like an electric speedometer.*
Dai Qibao ...you make a very good point about not running the odometer to keep resale value up. As well, you are right about posted videos above the speed limit. Thanks!
My wife grew up in Taiwan, and she actually forgot how to read certain characters after two years in the States. (Chinese is literally thousands of characters, and if you forget any of them, you have to look them up; unlike a phonetic language, there's no way to sound a character out.)
I teach Chinese exchange students from the mainland who are studying for their BA degree and I can't totally agree with you saying that they are always mindlessly copying everything. If I give them an assignment, they often do original and fun things. Maybe they are a bit more progressive, being foreign language students and such, but I don't think that they lack originality.
Why would anyone put effort into being original if there's no reward? Through lack of patent protection, China managed to freeload off of foreign innovations but also destroyed their own credibility and creative potential.
I just realized, Matt is very polite and addresses "Cmilk" but I very rarely hear Cmilk do the same. Obviously you guys have a format that you are adhering to. Its interesting that china as a country is behaving much like a greedy corporation absorbing great ideas and ingenious small companies over time or as they need it, paying off people for their great ideas or on the darker side simply killing off those who don't comply/playball.
Many years ago I lived and worked in Thailand, piracy was a massive issue back then as well. There was an IT mall called Pantip Plaza where you could literally buy anything IT related but would most likely be a pirate version lol. There were Thai language versions of Windows before Microsoft produced any. We discovered that when I rang Microsoft tech support regarding an issue with out Thai windows. The tech guy on the other end said We don't make a Thai language version currently.
I've become a big fan of your videos and really love them. I agree with your views on this copying thing but I have to disagree that that "European" village has nothing to offer. I would love to visit it just for the fun novelty factor. I wonder if any of the restaurants there actually are in service because if they have enough traffic it seems it would be a great idea to have them actually serve food. Here in America, we have a town that has cheap, scaled down, replicated structures of other cities, such as Paris, New York, and Egypt, all within the same block...Las Vegas.
But Las evgas is an actually FUNCTIONING CITY. Those replicas are there just for show not like in China actually trying to make people believe it's Chinese
That's just a touristcity, Las Vegas, though and it's riddled with whores and homeless. Go take a walk at 6 in the morning along the strip and they're sprawled out sleeping off hangovers in the gutters like cockroaches.
@@qweqqweq2090 sure, it’s a dump once you leave the hotels, but it’s a fully functional city. it’s got stores, it’s got restaurants, it’s got car dealerships, it’s got suburbs, it’s got apartments, all with a population of over half a million, unlike these fake “utopian” abandoned chinese cities.
I watched a few of your videos and impressive by your stating of facts. For most people who do not like to know the truth because it hurts. There are people like you guys straight way to point out the trouble and will be people there to give the solutions to solve. BTW, It's cool to be a person to find problems and providing the facts.
I lived in Jingzhou for a year back in 2004, and I built a computer and specifically hunted for a legitimate version of Windows as well and could not find a single legitimate version at all either.
As you guys are into bikes, there is this famous Indian bike from Bajaj..called Pulsar..launched in 2001..as it became popular in India...there was a chinese version of it called Gulsar
piracy and copyright violations are pretty common in China , which I think is not good for startup innovation but good for simulation and learn to adapt. I currently live in US , most American think China is barely a copycat and definitely hate this part of Chinese culture.
I think it's a good way for chinese businesses to take their first steps so to speak, like a test run - where they can take apart a popular product, see how it works, what makes it popular and other things. I like to show people an old radio my grandparents had at their house, which was made in japan after the war - but was basically a very basic radio put together from american parts, then you see the products coming out of japan today, which are usually unique to a specific company, developed over many years and of a high quality.
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The US are the thieves of the world. Edison stole his ideas, the Wright brothers were patent trolls. The CIA steals European designs and passes them on to US industry. Crooked two faced fuckwits.
I am very Fortunate. I knew this about Chinese culture. I have learned to manage my Supply Chain and Create a Black Box around everything is Work with.
the reason we protect IP is to foster innovation. The fact is the biggest cost with a new invention is the huge amounts of time capital investment and risk in developing the new invention. If someone else does all the heavy lifting and takes all the risk and you get to steal the reward, no one will bother innovating and the society stagnates. In the west we often credit our success to the printing press but china had it centuries before. It was mostly patents and intellectual property that spurred innovation in the west and allowed us to leap centuries ahead of china and the lack of IP is why china didn't advance at all between the 12th century and 19th century.
That copy Austrian village looked quite good quality construction compared to other developments you guys have showed. Those buildings looked very well maintained. i wonder if that still holds up today, 3 years later.
I started watching your shows yesterday and enjoy them and the others that you guys do. I've never been out of the US and I am unable to travel due to health issues so you guys are my way of enjoying China and even New York... (even though I live about 2 hrs from New York, New York...) The one I enjoyed the most so far is the Christmas video on Laowhy86. I have liked most every video I have watched and subscribed to most of your channels. Hope to see more and thank you for doing what you guys do.
Nice video as always, I really enjoy watching it. About the 'Running Man' thing, I want to provide some background knowledge. The reality show '奔跑吧, 兄弟' was originated from the Korean show 'Running Man', and the Korean company who created this show also made this Chinese version by cooperating with the local channel. The background music used in this show, actually any show in Chinese TV program, is authorized by Universal Music Publishing group, through a company called 松巴音乐. You can find the information here: www.songba.org/about.asp, if you are interested, but unfortunately, it is only in Chinese. I would say piracy in China is definitely a big problem, such as the cars, the brands, the electronics stuff etc. But in recent few years, copyright of the TV shows and music is more and more addressed, especially in big media companies. I actually can find more Chinese TV shows for free on youtube rather than Youku and IQiyi because of the copyright issue.
Thank you. I appreciate the insight from Matt at ~1:50 - it is an articulate description / rationalization of some background behind the concept of putting society over the individual versus the opposite here in the US (and admittedly being willing to greatly harm our society to protect individual rights). Having traveled to China many times on business, I've had a lot of exposure to China, but lack the cultural insight that comes from "living China". I've found a lot about China that I respect, even wish we could learn from SE Asian cultures (although, China has become scarier over the past 2-3 years since I was last in Shanghai), but there are these topics that are so counter to my own cultural identity, that they are simply hard to explain / rationalize / understand. Also, what's the history behind C-Milk?
2:00 well that's not exactly true. In the United States at least, ideas are not intellectual property-tangible expressions of ideas are. 5:40 at least you got a better operating system
M VGA no one except poor and uneducated farmer wanna buy this stupid car. I didn't mean anything bad for chinese farmer, i mean there are quite a lot of man in village know nothing about car brands. Whatever, It is a joke in China. You won't see it often on the road. Infact i never see any real one on the road. I am in beijing.
@Ben Daulton Piracy is very beneficial to the economy, why would you wanna stop it? Let the stupid people buy knockoffs. If they won't, it's the pirating company's problem. Bad people getting in trouble in both cases, it's a win-win.
This village is ridicilous and cool at the same time. I remember watching some pictures on the web few years ago i think, i'm not sure. Or maybe that was another place in China with a same concept heheh. When chinese knock-offs are good, i don't mind buying them, and right now chinese industry starts to actually produce good stuff, for example i'm a happy huawei honor 6 owner and i know a lot of people here in Europe who switched to this system by now. Probably gonna try that Xiao Mi action camera this year i think, since i sold my GoPro and need another such camera this summer. Can't wait when China will start making good photo gear, it will happen eventually. So far i only own YongNuo flash which i'm happy with.
omg what Winston said about legit copies of windows, that has been on my mind for awhile.... I remember years ago just thinking... do people in china actually buy windows lol
Hi Guys! I like your bikes, what brand they r? And I start following your shows for a week or so, and I can't get enough! Well done! Ok, I am embarrassed by my english, yours is spuer trouper!
Wow ive become to really enjoy your videos guys! Definitely subbed! You both really shed light on the way of living in China wow! PS why did you guys decide to live in China? You guys shit on China quite a bit lol.
As the first generation growing up in the digital era, I have seen so much in terms of piracy and how companies fought against it and struggled to survive. In the 1990s, there were some Chinese gaming studios that tried to do business by selling copies of their games. But they died one after one because people could download 'free' version shortly after the official launch. The very few studios that lived to today have a successful title of series and a solid fan base that chooses to buy the game instead of downloading 'free' versions. That's why majority of Chinese gaming industries are just copying some western games without putting effort into design of their own game.
Not recently. Historically, they were innovators. The scripts of other languages of the region are all based on Chinese. People copied Chinese chopsticks, Chinese pottery, Chinese martial arts, Chinese religion... but now China copies the west.
Burke's art is probably the worst art I've ever seen on display, but I will freely admit that it's far better than anything I could ever draw, believe it or not.
Somewhere in China there is a copy of this vid.
there is also a copy of you, perfect in every way.... probably, just don't look at it too hard
pretty sure they already put it on youku
watchingitallhere I think this is a pirated copy that we just watched!?
How bad is piracy in China.....lets ask our host Captain Jack Sparrow
...a copy of this *show* even...
"That one kid that made a cheesy horror film" bless that child.
Hey, at least he tried lol.
@@NYJGreatness Yes maybe he's special needs we have no idea & who mocks a child anyhow
@@PureVikingPowers WTF his friends and classmates were holding real, engineering jobs years ago already, building Iphones. If he can't at the very least do a quality, _comprehensible_ Inception rip-off, what good is he. They probably cut off too much of the umilical cord when he was born. I hear thats where the maths, engineering and art quality glands are at.
TL;DR I'm glad to see young minds still endulge in creativity. There is so much we need to know to be well prepared for current day society, its important that we make sure creativity still have good room. If we don't leave room for that, society and development stagnate. Then regress.
@@PureVikingPowers wtf are u talking about
He probably wasn't even Chinese!
I lived in Dalian (NE China) for 11 years. They have recently completed a fake Venice there, complete with gondolas.
Tammi Craft as an Italian the words of this phrase are beating me up violently
Out of all places in China, why Dalian? A Venice that freezes over, genius
truly the peak of counterfeit
China has many projects to copy landscape, building style and tourist attraction from all famous places in the world so more tourists will pick this cheap option to visit China and spend more money.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3279196/Inside-507-million-fake-Venice-Chinese-tourists-flock-cloned-canal-city-man-waterways-gondoliers-copies-Renaissance-paintings.html. Here is the link. The city was projected by french architects. Great idea in my view.
They used the starwars theme at my wedding, before my wife entered with her dad (not the canteena theme). There is video evidence of me losing my shit on stage as I couldn't stop laughing
That’s glorious
What if it was on purpose?
Plagiarism , Chinese phd student at a U.K university where i live was arrested and locked up for copying another's work . It's quite a serious thing at U.K uni's . Not too sure if the student was aware of thus fact , or just didn't consider it a big deal . Not sure how long he was imprisoned for , but was subsequently kicked out of U.K after release. Dad's money couldn't buy him out of trouble over here .
+Jon Byrne Haha, that'll teach him
What you want to prove here? When a Chinese plagiarises, you are freaking surprised, " omg! Chinese all cheating". And if British cheats, you will say: "oh, he just a guy with bad charaters, it doesn't matter. Most of British will never cheat." In fact, during 3 years Undergraduate study, I reported 3 cases of cheating on exam. Two of them are British, one is Korean. Me and my friend may review together
+Terry Wheel They're not trying to prove anything. They are just showing us how it really is. That's what I watch for...
He wasn't just plagiarizing that's not something you'd be locked up for, he was either selling the answers to others or he stole the questions.
Kal El a lot of people in the west dislike Apple, BTW. only certai elite and rich people like Apple because their shit is so overpricds
The whole time they’re in the church art gallery I can’t help but imagine that Burk(the artist) is hiding behind one of the pillars or something bawling his eyes out as they tear into his life’s work.
I beg to differ. His art is so bad that I think he knows it's bad. If he were hiding in that church, listening to them, he'd be laughing in his sleeve.
You wouldn't download a car!
Download the plan specs.
download the specs and print it out on a 3D printer
You wouldn't shoot a policeman, and then steal his helmet.
Stealing a car is a crime, just like murder!
Id download 1 if i coiuld
IN '68-'72 I LIVED IN JAPAN, EXTENSIVELY TRAVELING ASIA. YOUR VIDS REMIND ME OF MY ADVENTURES, THANK YOU!
love love love the format, content, and chemistry between the hosts, great new segment guys.
+imhellag thanks buddy!!!
+laowhy86 Foreigner scumbag! That's what you really are. You heard, bumbaclot!?
+imhellag
I want everything on bikes with head cams now.
I feel like this format is so much more interesting than the typical cam in the face all the time.
Joseph Lee, must be a real bitch, having a forieners first name!
Totally agree! Very creative with very to the point content along with the rides!!!
Microsoft should start including anti-CCP messages in pirated copies of Windows. That should do it. 😅
YEEES LOL
Dude, this is actually brilliant
They will pirate that too and add propaganda there 😂
@Niki Georgiev The Chinese. Everyone there, even the government use a pirated copy.
Just copy paste the June 4th incident and voila China aint gonna copy your stuffs anymore
Burkhard Eiswaldt, who's apparently been living in China since 1988, is a self proclaimed artist from Germany
I'm a simple man. I see Mass Effect reference I upvote.
Upvote? Do you think this is Reddit? Get out of here. Go back to Reddit. Shoo. Piss off.
Edit: thank you for the gold kind stranger
@3:40 "OTHER professors?? 😂😂😂
So basically the Chinese population are akin to the Borg collective.....individualism is frowned upon and the collective whole is everything.:)
yep that's basically it
Great analogy.
Prepare to be assimilated. All your unique qualities shall be added to the collective. Resistance is futile.
Yo, I am a Chinese myself, and i find your videos about China are so so true and funny. Keep is up and i want to know more about my country from you :)
Great Video - I just wanted to mention further on the original creativity.
I'm an Architect and Engineer - and it amazed me after venturing to China, that most of the signature awesome looking architecture was all boutique projects designed by western architects and in many cases the serious looking buildings engineered likewise by European, American or Australian firms.
Do the locals hold any of this in their mind when so passionate about the cities they find themselves in?
There is a lot to be said for the "Mess with one of us, then you mess with all of us." attitude. We could do with some of that kind of instinctive unity in the west.
Someone already forgot 9/11
But, usually no one lifts a finger for each other there for what we can see in these videos.
As an artist and just a guess, I suspect this chap/"artist" manages to sell that rubbish as the average easterner is not used to seeing talented western artwork.
this really is some of the best stuff on youtube right now.
This was great guys!! So awesome that you are like doing a visual podcast with this recording audio while riding the bikes. I've never seen anybody else here in the states ever do it like that as a produced edited video work to listen and watch. Super cool. I really appreciate your production quality.
+Branden BZ Aguilera you are welcome. and thanks for watching, mate!
I love how honestly you are talking about everything , it is so refreshing .
I like foggy weather.
Good topic, this riding-and-talking format is engaging.
+j6663000 Glad you like it mate, we're happy with the way it's turning out
this is one of the most interesting channels on YT.
I've learned a lot about China from your channel keep up the good work guy and love those bikes.
LOL "Well done Burke you made it" I woke up at 3:20am and though "lets see what they guys have done today" I enjoy your gentle critique and gentle sarcasm, I've learnt a lot. You guys are really giving people an historical view of what China is like right now. Obviously as usual lots of love.
Individualism drives true economic growth.
I live in lafayette louisiana and in 2002-4 they had this corner shop with a homemade 7-11 sign. a poorly designed one at that. it stayed there for a few months before they were forced to change the name. I'm not sure what year which is why I said 02-04. A lot of locally owned places steal names of big brands. for instance there is this huge skateboard company called Rukkus. well now we have a skates hop called Rukus with 1 k. that's just one example. or another is anything peanuts or scooby do. there's a towing company called scooby do that even has all the characters painted on the side of their trucks with the mystery machine van as well.
I remember 'KLC' in some old Winston videos. KLC coffee + old scooter ;) Great video as always chaps!
Excellent vids guys. Just found you today. I have been spending a lot of time in China over the last couple of years...up to four months at a time. Your comments and take aways are right on the money, and have helped me to see things even more clearly regarding my own experiences in China. Thanks!!
The Chinese company that purchased Segway made their money off stealing Segways idea. Piracy works I guess.
@Oggy Cheap labor overcomes intelligent forethought.
That has been a hallmark policy of the Chinese Government (acquiring Western companies) for a long time now, and it's actually quite smart. Because it is seemingly at the least, a legal (and more ethical) way to acquire Western technology.
When you buy the company it comes with the details.
432423429482 True story
Thanks for the up on Schlong, they're hilarious, and unexpectedly good!
I like your videos and ALWAYS give a *thumbs up*. I feel that it is the least I can do for you tubers who put so much time and effort into making quality content...such as you guys do. Much appreciated guys.
+Stray Cat Thank you! The encouragement you give more than helps us want to keep making these
You have my subscription and like. Your willingness and unabashed honesty to tackle a tough part of Chinese culture has earned my respect.
1:41 C-Milk pulls out an astonishing thesis about a connection to the chinese history. 2:28 Winston is thinking "wtf is this guy on about? supply and demand man".
+Yolo Swaggins exactly ;)
+Yolo Swaggins lol they are both correct
The funniest thing here is a discussion about piracy with one guy whose name is Yolo swaggins... And actually my name is sol Cutta, his is derivative, mine is actual carbon copyright.. Hahah.. So there u have it.
i'm chinese living in europe and i been binge listening to this show for a few days, very interesting : D
Interesting about the star wars theme song. There used to be a series in China that used the Braveheart soundtrack, on a loop, for the entire episodes. Seriously. I had the same CD. It was literally just the CD, on a loop.
+Joshua Bray that is hilarious
I am new to your channel but must say how much I am enjoying learning about China through your eyes.
Nice N7 jacket! Fellow Mass Effect fan? :)
+Jakub Zeman you guessed it
You guys are great! Thanks for filming your road travels, it's a unique and powerful way of seeing the Chinese landscape. I'm very interested in infrastructure, architecture, how people and nature interact across the earth, and you're showing it beautifully.
I had a junior chinese engineer working for me that when he was supposed to design a circuit he copied one that was already patented. I was suspicious because he completed the design far too quickly. Theother thing that drives me crazy with the Chinese is that they will continually tell me everything is fine until the day they are supposed to deliver and then they fail.
The new opening song is great. Fits the channel so well. Keep it up guys! Stay awesome!
There was also the case with Sea-Gull 1963 chronographs. A decade ago or so Sea-Gull (=Tianjin Watch Factory) reissued one of their older models of watches that had been issued to PLA pilots in the 60s. It was a limited edition. However, a few years ago, these same watches popped up again, made by a few other companies (Red Star, for instance), but with the same, perfectly legit Sea-Gull movements (ST19). So it's kinda of a Chinese copy of a Chinese watch, but kinda not, since they all use legit ST19 movements. Then Sea-Gull decided to take advantage from the rising popularity of the 1963 chronograph (thanks to those other companies) and released another limited edition of the same chronographs, with small differences though, for 400$ when the other companies were selling it for 200 - 300$.
When Winston said he learned "Ni hao" from a Japanese anime I instantly thought Ranma 1/2 lol. Good channel you guys I've Been subbed to SerpentZA, Laowhy86, and Prozzie for a bit now (I'm catching up on some stuff I missed) and I got to say even though it seems you guys talk about a lot of bad stuff it still looks like a cool experience to come and stay in China for a visit. What I've found to be true is everybody talks a little smack about where they live anyways :P . With that said your adventures look really fun and I'm always learning something every video. So once again Tyvm for all the awesome content.
Lets call it what it is. STEALING
are you one of the tribesmen who thinks having their picture taken steals their soul?
Death yeah they're like npcs in real life kinda like social justice warriors they all use the same insult,same ideology,same talking point,same opinions and same virtue signalling they have no creativity they just copy their insults and opinionslike sheeps
The low mounted camera makes me remember when I was just a small kid, riding with my father on his Vespa. I had to stand in front of the seat, hold on to the handle bars, and looking barely over the instrument. :-)
china is not a market but a factory :)
HotZetiGer basically
HotZetiGer Not a proper one either.
HotZetiGer Yeah your right
You two Brothers are a riot !LoL! Nice Job Fellas Great Work on the Video and Your first-hand LoOk into the Life of the Chinese people . You gave me a glimpse into their CrOoked ways in the realm of Piracy!LoL!Much Love to You Fellas, i Pray the Best for Both of You and Your Love Ones !!Keep Up the Excellent Work !!
Lucky my dad escaped China when he was a teenager around the cultural revolution time. He was very creative, inventive, also very unique and outspoken. I don’t think he would had survived in China if he stayed.
I really have taken great interest and great delight in watching your videos. I have learned more about China from watching your videos than I have from any other source. I am glad that you show all sides of China, not just the good or just the bad, but everything in a totally objective, not subjective manner. And I have given you a "thumbs up" on every single video that I have watched. And I have been watching your videos EVERY DAY (usually multiple videos on any given day) over the course of the past couple weeks, after I saw the first video. And, of course, I am a subscriber. Keep up the good work guys!
Anyone else find this sad? I find this sad.
+crackedcookies for me the saddest part was that there's a grown man trying to sell his finger paintings to unsuspecting Chinese people as "art"
+serpentza BURKE!
picasso and the rest ''artists'' sold their shit for millions , well maybe afdter their death....but still their shitty paintings worth millions
Maybe they are copys too..
tuna asserole
Hey SerpentZA and C-Milk, thanks for the video and I just wanted to say some things about Hallstatt (since I'm from Austria, born in Salzburg but living in Vienna now). They copied Hallstatt because it is said that is one of the most beautiful village (or city) you can visit in Austria. The church you visited in the copy village isn't a church at all. It looks from the outside like a church but it is missing a lot of things inside: the small water wells at the entrance, where the holy water is stored, the benches for people and the most important thing: there is no altar or a cross behind the altar. I went with my wife to real Hallstatt and we met a lot of Chinese tourists there. The strangest thing was they wanted to photograph our food that we ordered. You can also rent "Trachten", traditional clothings in the town, they even put an Asian person (can't tell if it was Japanese or Chinese) on the outside of the store as advertisement. It was very weird to see Chinese people in Trachten going around.
I'm coming to China soon from UK cant wait to see the culture
And a year later how’d you like it? Did you go to the mainland or HK? I lived in Hong Kong and it’s worlds different
+Chris Dooley
Different setting and that's about it. Doesn't sound like you have been to China but hey you still felt entitled to jump on the mainstream circle jerk.
Yeah, no. They're different worlds.
I've spent a decent amount of time in both. I'd happily move to HK, I'll no longer even go to the mainland to see my in-laws
how was it? :D
One of the best and most insightful vids you guys have made. Appreciated the honesty about how you learned the language at the end too.
So.... I've noticed episode after episode that Winston's gauges don't work on his bike. Am I seeing this correctly?
"gauges don't work on his bike"
*The electronic gauge? Generally cameras don't have the same refresh rate as displays. Eg a camera shows a dot for what the eye sees as a "8".*
Dai Qibao His g-a-u-g-e-s... Google "gauge". they're the thing's that tell you how fast you are going and how many RPMs the engine is doing. The gigantic ROUND things attached to his handlebars. You don't own a vehicle do you? lol The electronic component is not a gauge, it's a scrolling advertisement for his website...
NorthernChev "The electronic component is a scrolling advertisement for his website."
*Oh, okay. My best guess is it didn't work when we bought the bike and there's no point in fixing it.*
*A reason can be to prevent odometer readings for a higher resale value. In Japan, video of a speed "gauge" above the posted limit can result in a fine delivered to the owner. On RUclips, videos of speeding odometer readings has been videos that where disabled.*
*FYI The scrolling advertisement device looks very much like an electric speedometer.*
Dai Qibao ...you make a very good point about not running the odometer to keep resale value up. As well, you are right about posted videos above the speed limit. Thanks!
I saw that too....
My wife grew up in Taiwan, and she actually forgot how to read certain characters after two years in the States. (Chinese is literally thousands of characters, and if you forget any of them, you have to look them up; unlike a phonetic language, there's no way to sound a character out.)
I teach Chinese exchange students from the mainland who are studying for their BA degree and I can't totally agree with you saying that they are always mindlessly copying everything. If I give them an assignment, they often do original and fun things. Maybe they are a bit more progressive, being foreign language students and such, but I don't think that they lack originality.
Phil Shary that was from c-milk's experience so....
Someone probably told them not to emulate others' work when in the west.
Why would anyone put effort into being original if there's no reward? Through lack of patent protection, China managed to freeload off of foreign innovations but also destroyed their own credibility and creative potential.
Phil Shary Yeah he didn't say "mindlessly copying everything" lmao at least listen
I just realized, Matt is very polite and addresses "Cmilk" but I very rarely hear Cmilk do the same. Obviously you guys have a format that you are adhering to.
Its interesting that china as a country is behaving much like a greedy corporation absorbing great ideas and ingenious small companies over time or as they need it, paying off people for their great ideas or on the darker side simply killing off those who don't comply/playball.
1:46 7:59 8:13 8:28 12:15 basically
You have to much free time, dont you?
LoL, you can say that.
i love timestamps
Me too
2:22 “Piracy and copying things was never ever frowned upon because individual thought was never appreciated”. Spot-on.
At 2:20 the guy driving the wrong way on the freeway. 😧
I want to say I deeply appreciate all of these videos you put out.
11:20
Schlong is a real band.
Those a real tracks.
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Many years ago I lived and worked in Thailand, piracy was a massive issue back then as well. There was an IT mall called Pantip Plaza where you could literally buy anything IT related but would most likely be a pirate version lol. There were Thai language versions of Windows before Microsoft produced any. We discovered that when I rang Microsoft tech support regarding an issue with out Thai windows. The tech guy on the other end said We don't make a Thai language version currently.
I've become a big fan of your videos and really love them. I agree with your views on this copying thing but I have to disagree that that "European" village has nothing to offer. I would love to visit it just for the fun novelty factor. I wonder if any of the restaurants there actually are in service because if they have enough traffic it seems it would be a great idea to have them actually serve food. Here in America, we have a town that has cheap, scaled down, replicated structures of other cities, such as Paris, New York, and Egypt, all within the same block...Las Vegas.
But Las evgas is an actually FUNCTIONING CITY. Those replicas are there just for show not like in China actually trying to make people believe it's Chinese
That's just a touristcity, Las Vegas, though and it's riddled with whores and homeless. Go take a walk at 6 in the morning along the strip and they're sprawled out sleeping off hangovers in the gutters like cockroaches.
@@qweqqweq2090 sure, it’s a dump once you leave the hotels, but it’s a fully functional city. it’s got stores, it’s got restaurants, it’s got car dealerships, it’s got suburbs, it’s got apartments, all with a population of over half a million, unlike these fake “utopian” abandoned chinese cities.
Love the N7 jacket, brother.
China is hilarious. Greetings from Taipei... im also here 10 years.
Taiwan is immoral for exporting large quantities of swindlers
Taiwai is real china or is it?
they are not hilarious they are repulsive.
I watched a few of your videos and impressive by your stating of facts. For most people who do not like to know the truth because it hurts. There are people like you guys straight way to point out the trouble and will be people there to give the solutions to solve. BTW, It's cool to be a person to find problems and providing the facts.
I lived in Jingzhou for a year back in 2004, and I built a computer and specifically hunted for a legitimate version of Windows as well and could not find a single legitimate version at all either.
As you guys are into bikes, there is this famous Indian bike from Bajaj..called Pulsar..launched in 2001..as it became popular in India...there was a chinese version of it called Gulsar
piracy and copyright violations are pretty common in China , which I think is not good for startup innovation but good for simulation and learn to adapt. I currently live in US , most American think China is barely a copycat and definitely hate this part of Chinese culture.
I think it's a good way for chinese businesses to take their first steps so to speak, like a test run - where they can take apart a popular product, see how it works, what makes it popular and other things. I like to show people an old radio my grandparents had at their house, which was made in japan after the war - but was basically a very basic radio put together from american parts, then you see the products coming out of japan today, which are usually unique to a specific company, developed over many years and of a high quality.
The US are the thieves of the world. Edison stole his ideas, the Wright brothers were patent trolls. The CIA steals European designs and passes them on to US industry. Crooked two faced fuckwits.
Seán O'Nilbud Nutcase
I am very Fortunate. I knew this about Chinese culture. I have learned to manage my Supply Chain and Create a Black Box around everything is Work with.
the reason we protect IP is to foster innovation. The fact is the biggest cost with a new invention is the huge amounts of time capital investment and risk in developing the new invention. If someone else does all the heavy lifting and takes all the risk and you get to steal the reward, no one will bother innovating and the society stagnates.
In the west we often credit our success to the printing press but china had it centuries before. It was mostly patents and intellectual property that spurred innovation in the west and allowed us to leap centuries ahead of china and the lack of IP is why china didn't advance at all between the 12th century and 19th century.
That copy Austrian village looked quite good quality construction compared to other developments you guys have showed. Those buildings looked very well maintained. i wonder if that still holds up today, 3 years later.
Love your N7 jacket.
I started watching your shows yesterday and enjoy them and the others that you guys do. I've never been out of the US and I am unable to travel due to health issues so you guys are my way of enjoying China and even New York... (even though I live about 2 hrs from New York, New York...) The one I enjoyed the most so far is the Christmas video on Laowhy86. I have liked most every video I have watched and subscribed to most of your channels. Hope to see more and thank you for doing what you guys do.
Schlong is actually a real band lol, I had to look it up :D
Really cool commentary with motorcycle riding!
Nice video as always, I really enjoy watching it. About the 'Running Man' thing, I want to provide some background knowledge. The reality show '奔跑吧, 兄弟' was originated from the Korean show 'Running Man', and the Korean company who created this show also made this Chinese version by cooperating with the local channel. The background music used in this show, actually any show in Chinese TV program, is authorized by Universal Music Publishing group, through a company called 松巴音乐. You can find the information here: www.songba.org/about.asp, if you are interested, but unfortunately, it is only in Chinese. I would say piracy in China is definitely a big problem, such as the cars, the brands, the electronics stuff etc. But in recent few years, copyright of the TV shows and music is more and more addressed, especially in big media companies. I actually can find more Chinese TV shows for free on youtube rather than Youku and IQiyi because of the copyright issue.
+tiabilly thanks for the insight! very good follow up for the viewers!
Thank you. I appreciate the insight from Matt at ~1:50 - it is an articulate description / rationalization of some background behind the concept of putting society over the individual versus the opposite here in the US (and admittedly being willing to greatly harm our society to protect individual rights). Having traveled to China many times on business, I've had a lot of exposure to China, but lack the cultural insight that comes from "living China". I've found a lot about China that I respect, even wish we could learn from SE Asian cultures (although, China has become scarier over the past 2-3 years since I was last in Shanghai), but there are these topics that are so counter to my own cultural identity, that they are simply hard to explain / rationalize / understand. Also, what's the history behind C-Milk?
2:00 well that's not exactly true. In the United States at least, ideas are not intellectual property-tangible expressions of ideas are.
5:40 at least you got a better operating system
Watched everyone of your episodes, awesome content!! next time you are in the states stop by norfolk Va. and come ride with us!
HOLY SHIT! I knew piracy was bad in China but I never imagine it was this bad. Pirated Vehicles? UNBELIEVABLE!
M VGA no one except poor and uneducated farmer wanna buy this stupid car. I didn't mean anything bad for chinese farmer, i mean there are quite a lot of man in village know nothing about car brands. Whatever, It is a joke in China. You won't see it often on the road. Infact i never see any real one on the road. I am in beijing.
Pirated Chevy's and yet people still get mad at trump for adding tariff's.
@Ben Daulton Piracy is very beneficial to the economy, why would you wanna stop it? Let the stupid people buy knockoffs. If they won't, it's the pirating company's problem. Bad people getting in trouble in both cases, it's a win-win.
I just liked because you said thanks for liking. I have lived in China for more than 9 years- good videos guys. I am in Jinhua and Nanjing. Cheers!
This village is ridicilous and cool at the same time. I remember watching some pictures on the web few years ago i think, i'm not sure. Or maybe that was another place in China with a same concept heheh. When chinese knock-offs are good, i don't mind buying them, and right now chinese industry starts to actually produce good stuff, for example i'm a happy huawei honor 6 owner and i know a lot of people here in Europe who switched to this system by now. Probably gonna try that Xiao Mi action camera this year i think, since i sold my GoPro and need another such camera this summer. Can't wait when China will start making good photo gear, it will happen eventually. So far i only own YongNuo flash which i'm happy with.
Really like to follow up with you two, there is chemistry here that makes this video series possible.
Man if those students did that here in the Netherlands every student would fail aha
Yeah that gets you expelled in the USA. Copying a sentence or two gets you in trouble, but if you copy 90% of a paper you are done.
felt like the echo was mad loud in that art gallery church you guys weren't tripping about Burke listening in?? lol dope!
omg what Winston said about legit copies of windows, that has been on my mind for awhile.... I remember years ago just thinking... do people in china actually buy windows lol
Hi Guys!
I like your bikes, what brand they r?
And I start following your shows for a week or so, and I can't get enough!
Well done! Ok, I am embarrassed by my english, yours is spuer trouper!
Wow ive become to really enjoy your videos guys! Definitely subbed! You both really shed light on the way of living in China wow!
PS why did you guys decide to live in China? You guys shit on China quite a bit lol.
Today, this video is EXACTLY 1 year old. Happy birthday video!
11:24 Haha, love the number 7. Fistfull of pancreas 😂😂 And by the way @ADVChina
this is my favorite video thus far 😁👍🏻
man this channel is so eye opening
It took me over a year to realise c-milk is jizz. XD
I prefer collectivism over individualism. There's also a replica Venice in Qatar.
Individualism is what Chinese need. Like you said, it was buried in Confucianism.
And you gonna bring it with restrictive, creativity hurting "copyrights"? Yeah, good luck with that.
As the first generation growing up in the digital era, I have seen so much in terms of piracy and how companies fought against it and struggled to survive. In the 1990s, there were some Chinese gaming studios that tried to do business by selling copies of their games. But they died one after one because people could download 'free' version shortly after the official launch. The very few studios that lived to today have a successful title of series and a solid fan base that chooses to buy the game instead of downloading 'free' versions.
That's why majority of Chinese gaming industries are just copying some western games without putting effort into design of their own game.
Do the Chinese have any original thoughts or ideas?
Nero0 lol good question
Nero0 Yes.
Besides gunpowder? ;P
Not recently. Historically, they were innovators. The scripts of other languages of the region are all based on Chinese. People copied Chinese chopsticks, Chinese pottery, Chinese martial arts, Chinese religion... but now China copies the west.
Apparently they also had their own kind of abacus. Very beautiful poetry too. They also gave it their own twist to buddhism (zen)
1:20 I love the decorations on the lamp poles. 😍
Nice vedio！ Can you make a vedio in chengdu please～
+袁泊育 If we're up in Chengdu for whatever reason (it's thousands of KMS away), then we'll make a vid! :)
+serpentza Thank you I love your vedio（≧∇≦）～ Actually chengdu is my homecity，so wish you can visit it too！🎉
+袁泊育 we would love to go!
Don't want to interfere with your enthusiasm or anything but it is *video not vedio, carry on!
Great video!!! Thanks guys.
Burke's art is probably the worst art I've ever seen on display, but I will freely admit that it's far better than anything I could ever draw, believe it or not.
I was quite surprised by the crafting that the recreation Church had, hope it stands up to closer inspection?