@@nathanmontgomery7865 Well, it's a 25 minutes long video who contains what? 5 minutes of misinterpretation? Yeah, he should let the video available ^^' Or if he supress it, he should repost it without the half-sail part ^^
I've made a few mistakes in my videos over the years and I'd just like to correct a few of my inaccuracies and explain myself. From Dimetrodon-Half Sails to Quill Knobs I'll try to fix anything I've misreported. Thanks for watching! Paleo Profile coming soon!
Indeed, that's more than we can say about certain other people, like DAVID "PTEROSAURS ARE FLYING GECKOS THAT SOMEHOW EVOLVED FEATHERS INDEPENDENTLY FROM DINOSAURS, DODOS ARE FLIGHTLESS VULTURES AND ANDREWSARCHUS IS A GIANT TENREC" PETERS.
Sadly, a lot of times people use the fact that Trey sometimes say inaccurate/unpublished things so they can disprove things totally like: One thing that Trey said was false, it means that T. rex was certainly featherless (it's a possibility, but not certain) Each side likes to jump into a conclusion too quick without thinking too much
I'll alway point out that it's only human to make mistakes and as long as you realize and own up like Trey did here did. Also, that's just sad, I mean why are people so afraid of science?
Eagle In A Beanie Some people just really like their T Rex to look like the ones in the Jurassic Park films. Science be damned when you can have a cool monster to them.
Sinister Sweet What people don't realise is that dinosaurs aren't movie monsters like Godzilla or the Xenomorphs, they're animals. But apparently that's boring to them despite how popular shows like Walking with Dinosaurs were and that had dinosaurs acting like animals, not monsters.
Eagle In A Beanie Exactly. They should learn that they're not. Sure we can still have films like Jurassic Park in the public eye but make it clear that the dinosaurs in the franchise aren't actually the real thing.
Trey, can you please make a video, disproving a common mistake: Arthropods during Carboniferous increased in size ONLY because of the bigger ammount of oxygen. I am actually baffled by this mistake, several scientific sources adress it. I think you made that mistake during your paleo profile of arthropleura. Sources: "The Odonatoptera of the Late Permian Lodève Basin (Insecta)" Nel et al. 2008 "Active Regulation of Insect Respiration" Sláma 1999 (or better just google "tracheal breathing" in general) "Atmospheric oxygen level and the evolution of insect body size" Harrison et al. 2010 Some of my theories that can explain the growth of arthropods. 1. There were many natural niches needed to be taken by animals. Many vertebrates were still mostly aquatic, some amphibian. On the other hand, arthropods roamed the land quite freely. They had a good opportunity to diversify. No natural predators also helped. 2. Despite the famous belief that all arthropods instantly became small after Carboniferous is ridiculous. Most of the arthropds, especially members of Meganeuridae family still lived in late Permian. For example, the order of Meganisoptera. 3. And lets talk about molting. It is somewhat of a counterpoint to the growth because of oxygen. First, it is limited to a body size. Not only because of the added weight but also the simple problem of supporting a soft exoskeleton against gravity until it has hardened, and the increased time it takes to harden (since hardening after ecdysis works by polymerization of sklerotin, which is driven by oxygen iirc, and that is a purely passive process driven by diffusion, so a thicker exoskeleton takes exponentially longer to harden). 4. Scientists have already put 12 species of insects in a highly oxygenated artificial enviroment. 10 of the 12 species started to shrink in size. I am by no means a paleontologist, but I am pretty sure the oxygen thing was disproven.
To be able to say "hey, I was wrong, it was my mistake" and taking the responsibility for it, is one of the greatest characteristics you can have. Very few people take responsiblity for what they say or do, and our society offers you the chance to buy yourself out of situations like this (lawyers exist for this reason); but as some wise man once said, we learn from our mistakes. If you admit your "failiure", you can learn from it, and become better. I can highly appreciate this in any person.
Bravo. Always remember, your ability to address your errors with candor is what sets you above those who deny facts and reality. Never be reluctant to address your mistakes. Be excited to. It shouldn’t be a source of insecurity but pride! You have the balls to swallow your ego in the name of truth! On that note should you need to address this in the future id avoid the intro where you talk about your reluctance to bring yourself to acknowledge your errors. Own them. Which you do awesomely throughout the video. Again bravo.
You should make a video detailing bad "design" in biology. It is a very good argument against creationism. Life has many cases where an organ/system/structure in an organism has an obvious flaw that could have easily been noticed and corrected by something capable of building all the different species from the ground up. This is because natural selection slightly modifies existing body parts over small increments over a long period of time. This results in body parts with "designs" that have no benefit, but can have several disadvantages. Some good examples include the left recurrent laryngeal nerve, the appendix, and the vertebrate eye. I'm sure you could explain it in much better detail than I just did.
I know that, but I get the feeling a creationist will just say the usual "were you there?" and deny that those species were extinct millions of years before humanity. With bad "design" in biology you can find them in human bodies today. Humans were supposedly created independently in gods image, so why would there be these easily correctable flaws that are explained by descent from other organisms. Since you can directly observe these examples i don't know how the "were you there?" argument would be valid.
I am a creationist but see evidence in species being related not evolved from like monkeys and elephants they are both from the kingdom mammalia but personally i see no way a monkey could evolve from an elephant or elephant to a monkey i am not saying evolution is dumb i just think everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe in it was nice sharing my opinion yet not spreading hate over evolutionists. Also thank you for your time
Regarding the thing about the proto-feather and filaments evolving independently or having a common ancestor, I think it could have been a bit of both, the mutation in the dna to create those could have appeared in a common ancestor of all dinosaurs, for example, but remain turned off or being incomplete, and as the species diverse, it eventually turned on, but by that point it has changed from one branch to the other, creating different kinds of filaments.
You came off as refreshingly logical and insightful. Ken Ham comes off like the raving idiot he is. You've never seemed dogmatic to the idea all dinosaurs had feathers. Who ever made that comment just wanted to make a personal attack on you because they didn't have any evidence to back up their criticisms of your videos and/or is the type of person that still complains about Pluto.
that's what i love about this type of channel: even if 98% of info is corret a little bit is still not and the youtuber is open to correct those mistakes and apologize remindind his/her viewers that he or she is a human
Yes, a new video! :D By the way, what microphone do you use for videos? Just curious! :) I hope to videos on these topics just like you! :) Keep up the great work my guy! :)
Henry Scott Well, it sounds like a "low" budget mic, something like a Blue Snowball. Had one before and recordings with it sounds like this if no post processing isn't applied.
Thank you for setting a good example! We need more people to have this kind of backbone! I once examined an audio mixing procedure advertised in a YT video, and after much back and forth exchanging ideas with other commentators under that video, I found out that it was faulty and described the error in detail. When I asked him to please correct his mistake - so that users who follow his advice do not copy it - the video's creator just went "meh" and remarked he was done with this topic and wanted to move on to another. So you can see my appreciation for what you are doing. More people need to learn that correcting yourself is a _good_ thing.
Well done, sir! You just gained a whole lot of credibility! Acknowledging one's mistakes is what brings us closer to science. I just hope you will now be more transparent regarding the certainty of the facts you show on your delightful videos! Cheers!
Thank you for going through and making all these corrections. I am really interested in prehistoric bio as well as paleontology in general. Unfortunately I don’t exactly have the time to do a ton of research on my own. Your vids are one of my main sources of information. I would never have known if your information had been bad! Thank u for owning up to it.
Trey, your work is so technically good that I now spot the flaws in a number of other channels I sometimes watch. I am a writer and researcher and am learning a lot from you beyond the subjects presented. I will be a better researcher because of what I have learned from your work. Any of us who present anything in this age of the internet must be open to new information, correcting mistakes and altering our work as research progresses. It is a great time to learn and study because we can all be part of the process and achieve great things if we stay humble and open.
Kakashi Hatake Don't be an idiot, they are just saying that they are happy whenever there is an upload of Trey's. You shouldn't have to call him that. >:(
Thank you very much for making a video like this. I know it must have been difficult, but corrections videos and admitting misinformation help to make a source so much more trustworthy and reliable. I've been here for so long, and watching your video types change and grow and seeing you find your niche and voice have been a wonderful experience. You have been and remain as one of my all-time favorite RUclips channels and sources of paleontological information.
Nothing to be ashamed off or embarrassed about. This is literally how science goes. It only shoes how serious someone is. It's about finding the truth, not about who is "the best" Thumbs up! It's actually even much smarter to admit you made some mistakes, than fight lies.
I know this is an old video now, but I still have to say, congratulations on not only admitting your mistakes, but also correcting them. That is an invaluable quality, and it also shows that you truly care about your fans and providing them with reliable info. Keep up the good work. Also I find your pronunciation of concavenator to be interesting.
So glad i watched this video! As someone who binge watched most of your channel this week and found it by your Cryptid videos, i was also later interested in your paleo vids (i'm a geologist myself) but really the tone of the older ones was borderline toxic sometimes, specially the ones about "EVERYTHING HAS FEATHERS!!!". As you said "feather" carries some strong meaning and dino fuzz, filaments, proto feathers are usually more accurate, specially outside of Coelurosauria. As Carl Sagan said "extraodinary claims require extraodinary evidence" and certainly we find more and more new evidence every day, but as men of science we must be patient and always try to show both sides of the argument. Anyway your newer videos show great progress and your channel is really entertaining!! Cheers!
Thank you Sir for doing this for me, I would never be able to work up enough energy to look through all those scientific papers and research and words and stuff like that. Prehistoric stuff is a hobby of mine but definitely not big enough to be like that, mostly because if my problems with remembering names, dates and Citing sources. So again I thank you.
this is why i love Dinos you never know what will come out next thats what make them special im 35 years old and im still learning about them. I found your page and thank you for what you doing i love to see whats new about the creatures that i love so much
I think mistakes in dinosaur videos should be expected. Not due to bad research, but due to the fact that our understanding is ever... evolving. Also, since we never saw them, interpretation is up for debate in many things.
Hey trey you almost got 200000 thousand subscribers are you going to do a special? God I remember when you only had a few videos my first video of yours was the indominous one I'm really happy for you for your hard work you deserve all of your subscribers being my favourite channels so cheers to your success!
this isn't technically a mistake but when introducing paleo profiles you suggest gastornis was carnivorous and preyed on early horses while must evidence points to them being largely herbivorous. The "gastornis preying on horses" myth (meme?) is relatively common and i think it might be helpful if you made a video overviewing what the animal was actually like
Science is self-correcting and very agnostic about a lot of things. It is good that you acknowledge that and get comfortable with "I don't know". Also, good science news always gets a paper if possible. Yes, I hate pay firewalls too, still either pay or say you don't know the specifics of the paper. Just site your sources and say according to... from reperable sources.
I wasn't even subscribed before this video, and now I am. Takes some real guts to admit mistakes, especially in public. Wish there were more of you out there.
Hey Trey have you ever considered doing a profile series on the beings within the works of HP Lovecraft? Maybe talking about how they could possibly evolve or how they function? There are alot of websites out there that go into the possible science of this and it's really interesting stuff that I think your viewers would find interesting!
My science teacher doesn't wanna believe dinosaurs had feathers. He is also my art teacher, and we did a dinosaur related projects. He then discribed a t-rex to have a crocodile like thicc tail, and scales. He told this to the whole class, and then I tried to correct him, and he wanted proof, I gave him a source, saying how alot of theropods had feathers and then he gave me a thing saying how saurapods all had scales, and same with theropods
The only other mistake I can think of was you mentioning the age-old "pterosaurs couldn't swim" thing in your Jurassic World review. Ironically, the diving Pteranodons was one of the few _accurate_ things about JW's pterosaurs XD Great video btw! I've been developing a strong liking toward Dimetrodon in particular recently, probably because we talked about it a bit in my recent geology class. My personal favorite interpretation of Concavenator's quill knobs is as anchoring points for long display spines--I have a book that portrays it as such, and it's a book I recommend to you, Trey, as it's REALLY cool (even though it has inaccuracies of its own--skim-feeding tapejarids? Really?). The book's called "Ancient Earth Journal: Early Cretaceous" and it's the first in a series of books that basically present themselves as field journals from the time of the dinosaurs. Their dinosaurs and other creatures are _mostly_ accurate (again, skim-feeding tapejarids, plus a slightly outdated Utahraptor, but then the findings about Utahraptor's weird anatomy weren't out at the time) and they're refreshingly portrayed as _actual ANIMALS_ rather than "BIG POWERFUL BEASTS ZOMG". Oh, and recently the second book in the series came out, focusing on the Late Jurassic.
I remember when I found your chanel nearly 3 years ago. I can say that, since then you came a long way. And even if you haven´t publicly acknowledge these mistakes before it´s clear to me that you learn from them. I hope that you stay awsome as you have been until now.
I think it's awesome that you come back to correct these mistakes. I wouldn't know otherwise. It really shows your effort and dedication to facts :) I appreciate ya!
I love your channel and it's refreshing to have someone who is rational and willing to make a video like this for the sake of encouraging better scientific understanding vs the desire to be right. I guess I'm accustomed to RUclipsrs being unwilling or uninterested in that sort of thing, so it's refreshing to have a channel that offers information on some hobby or interest of mine that isn't plagued by content creators who are intentionally misleading or do not grow from mistakes
You know, don’t feel so bad about how you were on those videos. You were merely trying to let out some information that will help see things in a whole different light. In fact, you’ve inspired me to generate ideas for my paleoart so they’ll be how I want them. Science changes every time, and also our view points of it, so you’re probably not the only guy here. You’re still a great - no pun intended - Explainer. Keep up the great work, everybody still loves you! And umm, I would really like a video explaining the new dinosaur family tree, with the theropods being placed with the ornithischians in a new order called the Ornithoscelida, while sauropods and herrerasaurs are in the Saurischia. I don’t get it. Are you looking forward to it?
The fact that you said concavenator had bird like scutes on its feet also support the ancestral feathers hypothesis, as they only appear on creatures that once had feathers.
It's just great that you're even able to access and interpret some of these papers to help make your videos... Thank you for your efforts ! PS: 09:35 I think Duane Nash must have some terrifying fever dreams...
I've waited 2 years so you could finally correct the Dimetrodon's sail error. I can die hapily now. PS: I was Lapis Lazuli Fan back then if you remember.
It's good you made this video, it's nice to see people admit their mistakes, correct them and grow as a person, you make great content and just gained a new subscriber.
Hey everyone makes mistakes, your still awesome you know I just have a question that’s been bugging me for awhile, what exactly is your channel mascot anyway?, ceratosaurus?
Wow you really gained my respect now. It's hard to point out our own mistakes and learn from them, congrats! And thank you for being respectful with your views by producing this video
You are without question among the best serious science providers I have ever found on the internet. Limited to the area of paleontology I honestly can not think of anyone better!
This is pne of the videos i like to see form educational channels, or any channel in general. Its the greatest sign of growth. I hope to see more videos from you, i enjoy them all.
While it is true that I have previously had a bias against feathers, I believe I've matured from this and deeply apologize for childish accusations I made before. I'm also very glad you've taken the time to go back and fix your own mistakes, it does take some courage to admit flaws like that. And for the 15:50 topic, who the Hell would say that? Honestly
Not Gary definitely! In fact the vast majority of Christians believe in evolution. Catholicism which makes up the majority of Christians has made it clear they have nothing against evolution; the past three to four popes have embraced it
That is why I have much more respect for Catholics than other denominations. They are much more intelectually honest and rational.... at least the majority is.
+Not Gary, Imagine God trying to explain evolution to the Israelites through the prophets. It would come across as more far-fetched than the Garden of Eden
Tyrannosaurus Rex T.rex was probably feathered but there is a chance that it could have been scaly since Yutyrannus and Dilong are actually pretty far off on the phylogenetic line.
Great video Trey. Good to see you're actively taking steps to improve your channel and yourself. It's not easy to admit you're wrong but it's a good thing that you did it. I look forward to your future videos. P.S It may be a good idea to go into your old videos putting in corrections in the form of annotations and/or in the description. But I understand that would probably take a long time so maybe even a link to this video?
It's always good to challenge your own viewpoints and opinions. Either you reinforce what you already believe, or you gain a new understanding and can discard the things that no longer make sense to consider as facts. If you refuse to question your beliefs or look into a particular subject more, you should always ask yourself why. Usually the answer is that we are so attached to something; an explanation, a specific way of reasoning, et cetera... That we don't want to admit we might have trumpeted not the truth, but a misconception at best or a complete and utter falsehood at worst.
I Respect a man who can Correct himself
I respect the intelligence behind that decision as well.
Same here
Same.
@@troysmall5482 Yeah thats true buuuttt..Those inaccurate videos are still on his channel.
@@nathanmontgomery7865 Well, it's a 25 minutes long video who contains what? 5 minutes of misinterpretation? Yeah, he should let the video available ^^'
Or if he supress it, he should repost it without the half-sail part ^^
Good science must always recognise mistakes and rectify them. Looking forward to the next vid.
Science who does not recognise mistakes are not science ^^
I've made a few mistakes in my videos over the years and I'd just like to correct a few of my inaccuracies and explain myself. From Dimetrodon-Half Sails to Quill Knobs I'll try to fix anything I've misreported. Thanks for watching! Paleo Profile coming soon!
Who's profile?
Trey being compared to ken ham!? Thats stupid.
Hey trey. Is this video a response to this guy? ruclips.net/video/ec3ibpwUw40/видео.html if so what an awesome response it is.
I thaut you'd be the next Einstein
TREY the Explainer dude make an instagram already
It takes a big man to say he's wrong, but it takes a great man to explain how he's wrong. YOU SIR ARE A GREAT MAN!
Correction A great explainer
war is a racket
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Damn... I just got done bro sciencing about half sails at a party... Now I have to throw a bro science retraction party.... I'm so ashamed....
#feelsbadman
OOF
Damn. Feels bad
I have a friend who did the same thing with slow T. Rex
Lol
At least you acknowledge your mistakes!
Indeed, that's more than we can say about certain other people, like DAVID "PTEROSAURS ARE FLYING GECKOS THAT SOMEHOW EVOLVED FEATHERS INDEPENDENTLY FROM DINOSAURS, DODOS ARE FLIGHTLESS VULTURES AND ANDREWSARCHUS IS A GIANT TENREC" PETERS.
ClassicSpace-Guy unlike Jake Paul.
LinkieLinkGameing His whole life is a mistake.
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LMAO pterosaurus don't have feathers they have pycnofibers.
8 feather nazis lile you liked your fanboy comment.
Bloodmoon Alpha But some spinos were probably quad :(
Sadly, a lot of times people use the fact that Trey sometimes say inaccurate/unpublished things so they can disprove things totally like:
One thing that Trey said was false, it means that T. rex was certainly featherless (it's a possibility, but not certain)
Each side likes to jump into a conclusion too quick without thinking too much
I'll alway point out that it's only human to make mistakes and as long as you realize and own up like Trey did here did.
Also, that's just sad, I mean why are people so afraid of science?
Eagle In A Beanie Some people just really like their T Rex to look like the ones in the Jurassic Park films. Science be damned when you can have a cool monster to them.
Sinister Sweet What people don't realise is that dinosaurs aren't movie monsters like Godzilla or the Xenomorphs, they're animals. But apparently that's boring to them despite how popular shows like Walking with Dinosaurs were and that had dinosaurs acting like animals, not monsters.
They act like hollywood invented dinosaurs
Eagle In A Beanie Exactly. They should learn that they're not. Sure we can still have films like Jurassic Park in the public eye but make it clear that the dinosaurs in the franchise aren't actually the real thing.
It's obvious that all your mistakes were made because you were being controlled by an owl.
James Lamp III the owl's co helper was a basking shark
The leader was an owlsking shark
A Barnsking Shaowl to be scientifically precise @@justindorthewonderwizard645
Sorry i forgot this was a scientific community i wont make the mistake again Dr.22289
Finally a funny owl joke
Trey, can you please make a video, disproving a common mistake: Arthropods during Carboniferous increased in size ONLY because of the bigger ammount of oxygen. I am actually baffled by this mistake, several scientific sources adress it. I think you made that mistake during your paleo profile of arthropleura.
Sources:
"The Odonatoptera of the Late Permian Lodève Basin (Insecta)" Nel et al. 2008
"Active Regulation of Insect Respiration" Sláma 1999 (or better just google "tracheal breathing" in general)
"Atmospheric oxygen level and the evolution of insect body size" Harrison et al. 2010
Some of my theories that can explain the growth of arthropods.
1. There were many natural niches needed to be taken by animals. Many vertebrates were still mostly aquatic, some amphibian. On the other hand, arthropods roamed the land quite freely. They had a good opportunity to diversify. No natural predators also helped.
2. Despite the famous belief that all arthropods instantly became small after Carboniferous is ridiculous. Most of the arthropds, especially members of Meganeuridae family still lived in late Permian. For example, the order of Meganisoptera.
3. And lets talk about molting. It is somewhat of a counterpoint to the growth because of oxygen. First, it is limited to a body size. Not only because of the added weight but also the simple problem of supporting a soft exoskeleton against gravity until it has hardened, and the increased time it takes to harden (since hardening after ecdysis works by polymerization of sklerotin, which is driven by oxygen iirc, and that is a purely passive process driven by diffusion, so a thicker exoskeleton takes exponentially longer to harden).
4. Scientists have already put 12 species of insects in a highly oxygenated artificial enviroment. 10 of the 12 species started to shrink in size.
I am by no means a paleontologist, but I am pretty sure the oxygen thing was disproven.
Кирилл Дектярев
Wait, really? Damn, I thought I was smart when I watched the damacracy...
Justin Ferrell Thanks! :)
This is one thought that always crossed my mind! i upvote this comment...
KTM Trooper Thank you, man.
_SiBI _ Yeah, perhaps I should rephrase my initial statement, oxygen did make them bigger, but it was not the only factor.
To be able to say "hey, I was wrong, it was my mistake" and taking the responsibility for it, is one of the greatest characteristics you can have. Very few people take responsiblity for what they say or do, and our society offers you the chance to buy yourself out of situations like this (lawyers exist for this reason); but as some wise man once said, we learn from our mistakes. If you admit your "failiure", you can learn from it, and become better. I can highly appreciate this in any person.
Bravo. Always remember, your ability to address your errors with candor is what sets you above those who deny facts and reality. Never be reluctant to address your mistakes. Be excited to. It shouldn’t be a source of insecurity but pride! You have the balls to swallow your ego in the name of truth! On that note should you need to address this in the future id avoid the intro where you talk about your reluctance to bring yourself to acknowledge your errors. Own them. Which you do awesomely throughout the video. Again bravo.
You should make a video detailing bad "design" in biology. It is a very good argument against creationism. Life has many cases where an organ/system/structure in an organism has an obvious flaw that could have easily been noticed and corrected by something capable of building all the different species from the ground up. This is because natural selection slightly modifies existing body parts over small increments over a long period of time. This results in body parts with "designs" that have no benefit, but can have several disadvantages. Some good examples include the left recurrent laryngeal nerve, the appendix, and the vertebrate eye. I'm sure you could explain it in much better detail than I just did.
I know that, but I get the feeling a creationist will just say the usual "were you there?" and deny that those species were extinct millions of years before humanity. With bad "design" in biology you can find them in human bodies today. Humans were supposedly created independently in gods image, so why would there be these easily correctable flaws that are explained by descent from other organisms. Since you can directly observe these examples i don't know how the "were you there?" argument would be valid.
they'd of course mention that all of that came from the "curse". You can't beat creationism with science because it's not at all scientific.
"God just put that so-called flaw there to test you," they also tend to say.
Like the fact that babirusas have tusks that can grow into their own skull and kill them
I am a creationist but see evidence in species being related not evolved from like monkeys and elephants they are both from the kingdom mammalia but personally i see no way a monkey could evolve from an elephant or elephant to a monkey i am not saying evolution is dumb i just think everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe in it was nice sharing my opinion yet not spreading hate over evolutionists. Also thank you for your time
I'm actually really happy about that Dimetrodon one. Your video on the halfsail version was somewhat hard to believe
0:53 Attack on Giraffatitan?
Yep lol.
I think it might actually be "Attack on Titanosaur" but either way the pun is awesome XD
Ha. Nice mem
Attack on Anatotitan
Shaokang 'Sounder' Yuan ^^
Bro, your animation has so much damn charm!
HappiestSadGuy ^^ thanks!
I aree
Hear Hear!! I loved that little AOT dinosaur animation at the beginning
Regarding the thing about the proto-feather and filaments evolving independently or having a common ancestor, I think it could have been a bit of both, the mutation in the dna to create those could have appeared in a common ancestor of all dinosaurs, for example, but remain turned off or being incomplete, and as the species diverse, it eventually turned on, but by that point it has changed from one branch to the other, creating different kinds of filaments.
You came off as refreshingly logical and insightful. Ken Ham comes off like the raving idiot he is. You've never seemed dogmatic to the idea all dinosaurs had feathers. Who ever made that comment just wanted to make a personal attack on you because they didn't have any evidence to back up their criticisms of your videos and/or is the type of person that still complains about Pluto.
>Type of person who still complains about Pluto
So... Jerry Smith?
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Wrongggg Trey is feather fanboy and they have a couple of evidences to support the criticism.
that's what i love about this type of channel: even if 98% of info is corret a little bit is still not and the youtuber is open to correct those mistakes and apologize remindind his/her viewers that he or she is a human
Lethal Croc he’s a he
Can’t u tell by the voice
"I hope this video is short"
Lol I don't, you're beyond entertaining.
Yes, a new video! :D By the way, what microphone do you use for videos? Just curious! :) I hope to videos on these topics just like you! :)
Keep up the great work my guy! :)
Henry Scott Well, it sounds like a "low" budget mic, something like a Blue Snowball. Had one before and recordings with it sounds like this if no post processing isn't applied.
It's the built-in microphone within his iPhone 4. Not even kidding! Don't worry, he gets a new microphone in his newest video.
It' very interesting indeed! I always thought the quality was somewhat good, so I was certainly surprised! XD
R0ckBott0m you need a life
Trey, we need a barn owl special.
MattGarZero fossil record history of (barn) owls!
Also Trey, I like long videos
It’s useful when playing a game, or doing mein schoolwork
And sleeping
Derptank thats mean...
Not really.
"mein schoolwork". I had a german flashback, thanks xD
DED Raion
I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing...
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Dude you should really remake the Cthulhu Mythos video. It's one of your best videos, but the audio was really bad.
Thank you for setting a good example! We need more people to have this kind of backbone!
I once examined an audio mixing procedure advertised in a YT video, and after much back and forth exchanging ideas with other commentators under that video, I found out that it was faulty and described the error in detail. When I asked him to please correct his mistake - so that users who follow his advice do not copy it - the video's creator just went "meh" and remarked he was done with this topic and wanted to move on to another. So you can see my appreciation for what you are doing. More people need to learn that correcting yourself is a _good_ thing.
Well done, sir! You just gained a whole lot of credibility! Acknowledging one's mistakes is what brings us closer to science. I just hope you will now be more transparent regarding the certainty of the facts you show on your delightful videos!
Cheers!
Thank you for going through and making all these corrections. I am really interested in prehistoric bio as well as paleontology in general. Unfortunately I don’t exactly have the time to do a ton of research on my own. Your vids are one of my main sources of information. I would never have known if your information had been bad! Thank u for owning up to it.
It's ok, Trey, we still love you
*secretly gets out the pitchforks*
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Trey, your work is so technically good that I now spot the flaws in a number of other channels I sometimes watch. I am a writer and researcher and am learning a lot from you beyond the subjects presented. I will be a better researcher because of what I have learned from your work.
Any of us who present anything in this age of the internet must be open to new information, correcting mistakes and altering our work as research progresses. It is a great time to learn and study because we can all be part of the process and achieve great things if we stay humble and open.
To acknowledge one's own mistakes is a mark of maturity
Just spent all day rewatching a bunch of your old videos, great to see a new one right afterwards.
I squeal every time I see trey upload!
Kakashi Hatake Don't be an idiot, they are just saying that they are happy whenever there is an upload of Trey's. You shouldn't have to call him that. >:(
DragonSlayer X28 I thats great, I do too, love them dinosaurs! :3
Thank you very much for making a video like this. I know it must have been difficult, but corrections videos and admitting misinformation help to make a source so much more trustworthy and reliable. I've been here for so long, and watching your video types change and grow and seeing you find your niche and voice have been a wonderful experience. You have been and remain as one of my all-time favorite RUclips channels and sources of paleontological information.
Random Thought for a Random Video: Pirates of the Cambrian
The Lasagniac Ha I like that!
Oh my God. I accidently read that as Pirates of Cannibalism. Waaaaaaay different video.
Nothing to be ashamed off or embarrassed about. This is literally how science goes. It only shoes how serious someone is. It's about finding the truth, not about who is "the best" Thumbs up! It's actually even much smarter to admit you made some mistakes, than fight lies.
"Early me was a huge jerk."
This statement applies to everyone. I wouldn't worry about it.
"Experience is simply the name we give to our mistakes." - Oscar Wilde
I know this is an old video now, but I still have to say, congratulations on not only admitting your mistakes, but also correcting them. That is an invaluable quality, and it also shows that you truly care about your fans and providing them with reliable info. Keep up the good work. Also I find your pronunciation of concavenator to be interesting.
So glad i watched this video!
As someone who binge watched most of your channel this week and found it by your Cryptid videos, i was also later interested in your paleo vids (i'm a geologist myself) but really the tone of the older ones was borderline toxic sometimes, specially the ones about "EVERYTHING HAS FEATHERS!!!". As you said "feather" carries some strong meaning and dino fuzz, filaments, proto feathers are usually more accurate, specially outside of Coelurosauria.
As Carl Sagan said "extraodinary claims require extraodinary evidence" and certainly we find more and more new evidence every day, but as men of science we must be patient and always try to show both sides of the argument.
Anyway your newer videos show great progress and your channel is really entertaining!! Cheers!
Thank you Sir for doing this for me, I would never be able to work up enough energy to look through all those scientific papers and research and words and stuff like that. Prehistoric stuff is a hobby of mine but definitely not big enough to be like that, mostly because if my problems with remembering names, dates and Citing sources.
So again I thank you.
this is why i love Dinos you never know what will come out next thats what make them special im 35 years old and im still learning about them. I found your page and thank you for what you doing i love to see whats new about the creatures that i love so much
I think mistakes in dinosaur videos should be expected. Not due to bad research, but due to the fact that our understanding is ever... evolving. Also, since we never saw them, interpretation is up for debate in many things.
Thanks man, it takes a lot of courage to admit when you've been wrong, if anything, my respect for you is greater now
Hey trey you almost got 200000 thousand subscribers are you going to do a special? God I remember when you only had a few videos my first video of yours was the indominous one I'm really happy for you for your hard work you deserve all of your subscribers being my favourite channels so cheers to your success!
Face reveal!? Lol
Henry Scott hell ya......
Marcus Machado hell nah...
Er, 200 million subscribers might be asking for a bit much....
Andrew Suryali ha. Two hundred thousand thousand
I’ve got a lot of respect for someone who’s in this field specifically who can go back and correct themselves
this isn't technically a mistake but when introducing paleo profiles you suggest gastornis was carnivorous and preyed on early horses while must evidence points to them being largely herbivorous. The "gastornis preying on horses" myth (meme?) is relatively common and i think it might be helpful if you made a video overviewing what the animal was actually like
Leo Morris in soviet russia, bird eat horse
Things Relevant to nerdom but in no place in the world, horse eats bird
@retf8977 I know it's and old comment, but... there are loads of videos of horses eating baby birds, they'll do it quite happily.
That's also the beauty of doing videos for YT. If you make a mistake people will let you know, and as harsh as it may seem at times, it's worth it.
takes a real man to admit they were wrong, or a real woman I guess. Signs of true intelligence, thanks for the inspiration
It is really good that you showed your not above correcting past mistakes you may have made .
Science is self-correcting and very agnostic about a lot of things. It is good that you acknowledge that and get comfortable with "I don't know". Also, good science news always gets a paper if possible. Yes, I hate pay firewalls too, still either pay or say you don't know the specifics of the paper. Just site your sources and say according to... from reperable sources.
I am saying it. This guy is better than Game Theory
Dont hate you, your videos are entertaining and informative and love your art style plz keep it up
I wasn't even subscribed before this video, and now I am. Takes some real guts to admit mistakes, especially in public. Wish there were more of you out there.
Hey Trey have you ever considered doing a profile series on the beings within the works of HP Lovecraft? Maybe talking about how they could possibly evolve or how they function? There are alot of websites out there that go into the possible science of this and it's really interesting stuff that I think your viewers would find interesting!
My science teacher doesn't wanna believe dinosaurs had feathers. He is also my art teacher, and we did a dinosaur related projects. He then discribed a t-rex to have a crocodile like thicc tail, and scales. He told this to the whole class, and then I tried to correct him, and he wanted proof, I gave him a source, saying how alot of theropods had feathers and then he gave me a thing saying how saurapods all had scales, and same with theropods
Does he deny that flamingos have feathers?
The only other mistake I can think of was you mentioning the age-old "pterosaurs couldn't swim" thing in your Jurassic World review. Ironically, the diving Pteranodons was one of the few _accurate_ things about JW's pterosaurs XD
Great video btw! I've been developing a strong liking toward Dimetrodon in particular recently, probably because we talked about it a bit in my recent geology class.
My personal favorite interpretation of Concavenator's quill knobs is as anchoring points for long display spines--I have a book that portrays it as such, and it's a book I recommend to you, Trey, as it's REALLY cool (even though it has inaccuracies of its own--skim-feeding tapejarids? Really?). The book's called "Ancient Earth Journal: Early Cretaceous" and it's the first in a series of books that basically present themselves as field journals from the time of the dinosaurs. Their dinosaurs and other creatures are _mostly_ accurate (again, skim-feeding tapejarids, plus a slightly outdated Utahraptor, but then the findings about Utahraptor's weird anatomy weren't out at the time) and they're refreshingly portrayed as _actual ANIMALS_ rather than "BIG POWERFUL BEASTS ZOMG". Oh, and recently the second book in the series came out, focusing on the Late Jurassic.
Subscribed because of this video. Very mature outlook and happy to see you keep evolving in the future
Christmas came early this year
Edit: Btw whatever/whenever you post, I will still become ecstatic
Unless we're judging by department store standards, in which case it's almost a month late.
I remember when I found your chanel nearly 3 years ago. I can say that, since then you came a long way. And even if you haven´t publicly acknowledge these mistakes before it´s clear to me that you learn from them. I hope that you stay awsome as you have been until now.
You know you’ve herd it all when you hear the term feather nazi
I think it's awesome that you come back to correct these mistakes. I wouldn't know otherwise. It really shows your effort and dedication to facts :) I appreciate ya!
Paleo profile about T.Rex?
I'm pretty sure everyone knows the t.rex
How about Daspletosaurus Horneri instead? It's the newest Tyrannosaur species and one of the most important finds of 2017
Tyrannosaurus Rex he's already done like 3 of those
TheHegend cool.
Too popular
I love your channel and it's refreshing to have someone who is rational and willing to make a video like this for the sake of encouraging better scientific understanding vs the desire to be right. I guess I'm accustomed to RUclipsrs being unwilling or uninterested in that sort of thing, so it's refreshing to have a channel that offers information on some hobby or interest of mine that isn't plagued by content creators who are intentionally misleading or do not grow from mistakes
You know, don’t feel so bad about how you were on those videos. You were merely trying to let out some information that will help see things in a whole different light. In fact, you’ve inspired me to generate ideas for my paleoart so they’ll be how I want them. Science changes every time, and also our view points of it, so you’re probably not the only guy here. You’re still a great - no pun intended - Explainer. Keep up the great work, everybody still loves you!
And umm, I would really like a video explaining the new dinosaur family tree, with the theropods being placed with the ornithischians in a new order called the Ornithoscelida, while sauropods and herrerasaurs are in the Saurischia. I don’t get it. Are you looking forward to it?
This video was a good idea, and I appreciate that you're not only admitting your mistakes, but doing your best to clear the air.
The fact that you said concavenator had bird like scutes on its feet also support the ancestral feathers hypothesis, as they only appear on creatures that once had feathers.
It's just great that you're even able to access and interpret some of these papers to help make your videos...
Thank you for your efforts !
PS: 09:35 I think Duane Nash must have some terrifying fever dreams...
I've waited 2 years so you could finally correct the Dimetrodon's sail error. I can die hapily now.
PS: I was Lapis Lazuli Fan back then if you remember.
It's good you made this video, it's nice to see people admit their mistakes, correct them and grow as a person, you make great content and just gained a new subscriber.
Hey everyone makes mistakes, your still awesome you know
I just have a question that’s been bugging me for awhile, what exactly is your channel mascot anyway?, ceratosaurus?
Ryaquaza 1 thanks man! And used to know it, it's a rather obscure theropod I'll have to ask kosemen
Ryaquaza 1 It's Dippersaurus Pinecus! LOL
Wow you really gained my respect now. It's hard to point out our own mistakes and learn from them, congrats! And thank you for being respectful with your views by producing this video
Here's a new one: The appearance of an unexplicable extra u in Concavenator to make it Concuavenator (or Conquavenator) whenever you say that word ;-)
You are without question among the best serious science providers I have ever found on the internet. Limited to the area of paleontology I honestly can not think of anyone better!
"This is hopefully a short video, or at least I hope it's short"
*Looks at video time length*
Me: nope
XD
the perfect intro you need is your dinosaur being made in a lab at Jurassic park and going on a rampage correcting the other dinosaurs.
Dimetriodons are still my second favorite "Dinosaur" (Im pretty sure they don't classify as dinosaurs) My favorite is the Therizinosaurus.
It's awesome people like Trey makes videos like these, so educative, I just discovered them. It takes a wise man to recognize that he was wrong.
Wait, wait was that Attack on titanosaur?? I love it.
kyoryraptor 1984 Just let the joke work man, please.
Irate Gamer k
Irate Gamer good use of dinosaur names
I like that everyone is really excited about your uploads. Keep em coming!
I'm glade you made a correction video. That is very mature of you.
This is why I like watching you, you correct yourself unlike other people that will not be named.
Fan art? Fan intro? Hell yeah
Your channel is criminally underrated. Love your videos
*_god walks in my science class to learn what "evolution" works_*
It's good that you acknowledge your mistakes like every RUclipsr should but not many do
Next Paleo Profile: Helicoprion?
This is pne of the videos i like to see form educational channels, or any channel in general. Its the greatest sign of growth. I hope to see more videos from you, i enjoy them all.
1:09 --- Prey items of the mighty Aegyptius ?
While it is true that I have previously had a bias against feathers, I believe I've matured from this and deeply apologize for childish accusations I made before. I'm also very glad you've taken the time to go back and fix your own mistakes, it does take some courage to admit flaws like that.
And for the 15:50 topic, who the Hell would say that? Honestly
6:41
"Who put you on the planet? Ech!"
Note: I'm quoting the picture if you didn't know
Dude, your videos are awesome. Thank you for clarifying the few mishaps. I'm looking forward to watching more.
Is it okay that I'm a Christian, but I cannot deny the evidence for evolution?
Not Gary
It's awesome!
Not Gary definitely! In fact the vast majority of Christians believe in evolution. Catholicism which makes up the majority of Christians has made it clear they have nothing against evolution; the past three to four popes have embraced it
That is why I have much more respect for Catholics than other denominations. They are much more intelectually honest and rational.... at least the majority is.
TREY the Explainer that's good, I thought I was just weird like that. Thanks for replying!
+Not Gary, Imagine God trying to explain evolution to the Israelites through the prophets. It would come across as more far-fetched than the Garden of Eden
It shows considerable maturity to recognise and correct an error.
My sister thinks T.Rex is 100% pure scaly. Please help :(
Tyrannosaurus Rex call 911
Trey has a video dedicated to exactly this. Check his playlists. Or search for "Trey Explainer Tyrannosaurus Rex feathers."
Tyrannosaurus Rex
Found it! ruclips.net/video/uM5JN__15-g/видео.html
Tyrannosaurus Rex T.rex was probably feathered but there is a chance that it could have been scaly since Yutyrannus and Dilong are actually pretty far off on the phylogenetic line.
It's possible. It's really not certain to what extent T. rex was feathered, if at all. It however, did evolve from feathered ancestors.
Welcome back man. I binge watch the hell out of your videos and I'm glad to see you post again
*Short video*
Nope XD
The Great Wolf xd
ecks dee
Tub Guy XD
The Great Wolf 24th letter and 4th letter
Great video Trey. Good to see you're actively taking steps to improve your channel and yourself. It's not easy to admit you're wrong but it's a good thing that you did it. I look forward to your future videos.
P.S It may be a good idea to go into your old videos putting in corrections in the form of annotations and/or in the description. But I understand that would probably take a long time so maybe even a link to this video?
SOMEONE COMPARED YOU TO KEN FUCKING HAM!! THE GAY BOAT GUY!!! Seriously, god damn.
PS the term feather nazi is hilarious
shortfuse87 • but the scaly soviets will take you down xd
shortfuse87 • this is feather nazi repelent - ruclips.net/video/U06jlgpMtQs/видео.html
AND ITS LEGIT TOO!
Lol, this entire thing
'The term feather nazi is hilarious'
Yes, it's great.
This is very mature of you. To err is human, but it takes real guts to admit your mistakes and grow from them.
Please make a video about the biology of the Monsters in monster hunter please?
It's always good to challenge your own viewpoints and opinions. Either you reinforce what you already believe, or you gain a new understanding and can discard the things that no longer make sense to consider as facts. If you refuse to question your beliefs or look into a particular subject more, you should always ask yourself why. Usually the answer is that we are so attached to something; an explanation, a specific way of reasoning, et cetera... That we don't want to admit we might have trumpeted not the truth, but a misconception at best or a complete and utter falsehood at worst.