Dangers when installing boilers in a cellar or basement. How to install a condensate / PRV pump.
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- Derek in this video take a look at the dangers of installing a gas boiler in a cellar or a basement. Derek also guides us through the installation and wiring of a condensate pump with PRV compatibility. Gas training ACS revision
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Much appreciated Derek, learned so much from you over the years, please keep making these videos, BRILLIANT! as usual!
Next video from Derek about cellar and basament .GRATE INFO FROM YOU .THANK YOU DEREK
Derek, I suggested this subject for a video about a week ago. I don't know if it was because of me, but thank you anyway for doing it so quickly. Great content as always 👍
Great minds think alike. But it was already in the can. If you have any other suggestions let me know 👍🏻
@@tomkatgastraining Thanks, Derek. I will be sure to post any other suggestions I have.
Thanks Derek great video 👍
Top video again Derick 👌
Useful tips for anyone considering this. I've got a system boiler and Unvented cylinder in a cellar. Flue exits the cellar into a side alley 300mm above ground level with a guard and plume kit. A condensate pump is below the boiler and discharges through the same wall into a waste pipe above ground. I also have a high temp/pressure relief pump which handles the cylinder relief (also water storage tank overflow and mains prv relief) through the same wall via copper and discharge onto the ground so is visible. I've had to replace the condensate pump once due to waste pipe blockage causing it to burn out. There is not much choice on high temp/pressure relief pumps and the most popular one had a design fault which caused it to burn out and flood the cellar. The design has since changed and I'm now looking to replace it. It's nearly £850 + Labour to install and is only needed to run in emergencies. Due to inactivity it can seize up if not regularly maintained!!
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if you send the live down the wire for the cut off to the pump this has no earth running with it. so is this allowed as I would have thought you would need a earth to travel with the live wire for safety I am not an electrician and just curious. Also if you cut the power to the boiler due top the pump no longer working then the frost protect would no longer work so which would be better a bit of condensate or a frozen boiler? Whats your thoughts
There would be no problem connecting an earth at the pump or the junction box. As for the boiler freezing the regs are quite clear in turning of the power guessing they don’t care about the boiler freezing.
As mentioned it's good practise to wire an audible high level alarm along with shutting the boiler down. And if no one is home during the day or it's a rental property you could also wire a smart sensor that sends out a phone notification, email etc. A £30 indoor webcam pointed at the whole setup is also a good idea to check remotely.
Vaillant do remote prv and so do ideal on the logics 👍
I spoke to ideal and they said to blank off the prv and fit 2.5 bar prv as a remove prv. Aslo vaillant used to do a kit so u could do a similar thing
Can you drill a hole in a concrete floor and run the condensate into the hole and thus into the gravel below?
I have seen this damage the concrete around the hole so I wouldn’t
That damn condensate pipe. Always the problem! 😂
New vokera allow prv
Jesus whats next danger of fitting a boiler on a wall 😂
Thanks for the new video idea 😋
What about the cold car garage or the attic
@@stephendoherty8291 done the attic
Just wear a jumper. Heating your homes is dangerous guys.
@@ecstaticasom watch you don’t poke yourself in the eye putting your jumper on it’s dangerous 😋
@Tomkat Gas Training
Inconsistency in saying: 1kw providing 0.1 litre of condensate. kw is a rate of power whereas litre is a quantity of liquid (measured by volume).
You either need to say: 1kwH provides 0.1 litre -or- something like 1kw of boiler heating creates 0.1 litres per hour (or whatever the rate is).
Dear Derrick this criticism is not directed at you there are lots of RUclips videos on how to fit gas appliances do you think it is safe to give general public information on gas work ie how to do tightness test and how gas rate plus lots more information from different plumbing and heating Engineers i retired a year ago from plumbing and heating and stop my gas safe registration i know lots of competent people who can read and follow manufactures instructions we all know it is illegal work on gas if you are not registered what like to ask you should heating Engineers stop posting RUclips videos it appears to me none registered people would have a go at doing their own work and do gas safe allow these videos so my question is do you think heating Engineers should stop giving information to general public this not a criticism of your self many thanks
I am as guilty as anyone else in this situation. As a plus people will have a go whether there are RUclips videos or not. Even boiler manufacturers put out RUclips videos but I understand your concern
I'm general public but also have an engineering background so find these videos really helpful and insightful. I am comfortable with most end user related things but would never touch anything gas related. But it's a valid point as there will always be a few idiots who may attempt it. It's probably good practise to put a warning/disclaimer on such videos to make it clear, to cover yourself at least.