ID, AR, NCS THE IGEM :G: 11 QUIZ. gas unsafe situations procedure what gas engineers need to know.
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2021
- Derek in part 1 of 2 gives us a quiz on the unsafe situations procedure IGEM /G/ 11. in this video you can class the situations as ID, AR, NCS and do you need to riddor the situation..
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• ID, AR, NCS PART 2 IGE...
Link to part 2
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Link for part 2 if you want more 👍🏻
Keep it coming Derick. Terrific.👍
please do more, really enjoyed this.
Top notch as usual... 🙌👏👍👨🔧
This is a great video Derek please do some more.
Many thanks
Excellent video, well explained . more like this please .
As usual straight forward,to the point, informative.Thanks Derek.Appreciate the time you take to put these clips together.👍
Another top video thanks always enjoy your vids.
Loving these IGEM quiz questions. Great revision 👍
Another great video. Please do it again with different scenarios. Really helpful . Thank you Derek
The condense terminating into sink really ID!?! Surely that's only if trap is empty on boiler could siphon pop. I was always told AR at most. But was told years back by a gas safe technical it's OK as a temporary measure as has a siphon so can't release poc. Infact just looking back at IGEM 6.2 it does say evidence of leakage so I'm still saying AR on this 1
Condensate as I understand it is NOT a product of combustion otherwise all condensate lift pumps would be ID. This pipe dripping into the sink is not even NCS in my opinion.
At risk unless poc are over 10ppm
Great video
yes defiantly more of this type, and thanks for the time spent doing them.
Brilliant, keep it coming! amazing what you overlook and I’ve been in the game over 25yrs
Very good Derek keep them coming
Great examples of unsafe situations. 👍
Thanks Derek great video👍 I would love some more 🙏
great video
Looking forward to starting my retraining with Tomkat next year in Feb I will be watching all these training videos over and over again & making notes Derek explains everything so well 👍🏻
Excellent videos good information thank you Dark ❤❤❤❤
Great examples.Thank you and add some more please if you can Derek.
Top class as usual Derek
Loving the quizzes pal👍 9/10 for me question 7 I had as ID and riddor reportable. Thanks for your time and efforts it’s much appreciated
good wee video , its good to keep up with current standards
Great revision, thank you 👍👍👍
Great video, it's nice that we get the answers within a few seconds rather than days later👍
Really good info on these kind of situations. If I’m honest I wouldn’t let any of them go. Because it just don’t feel right when you see things you wouldn’t do yourself. For somoene to come behind you and say why did you leave that or you should if id’d that one thing I was taught while learning was don’t give anyone a case against you be called a nuisance for switching it off. Than the be called another jailed gas fitter
🤘🤓🤘enjoyed this
Great video Derek, as always
Thanks,mate. Very informative
Great training video Derek 👍🏻
Top man. Another great video
Thank you Derek very helpful video. Always coming across similar issues trying to think what is best classification.
Thank you 👍 for all your hard work to help the gas safe engineers keeping there knowledge up to date .
In my opinion about the flue connected to out side with drain pipe , I think this should be ID and RIDDOR for simple reasons : Safety is better than sorry!!! The combustion air is hot air and it's going to build up inside the pipe to the point it will find exist and that's going to be at the boiler case and then inside the room , the open windows where the pipe coming out will help to delay the dangers for longer time because of the fresh air incoming , but not removing the combustion product completely .
Great vids mate thanks
Excellent video Derek, the toilet pipe flue definitely looks bangers & I would definitely ID it, how the hell would someone fit something like that, it looks to ridiculous. Great video and yes definitely would love to see more videos like this. Thanks.. 😀😀👍👍
Again a really instructive video and well delivered. There are often grey areas that we have to deal the stance I take is I am the last one there and absolutely take no chances
Excellent 👍👍
Davison here...love the video. Thanks
Best channel on RUclips
Thanks Derek..
If in doubt whether to AR or ID, better to ere on the safe side and ID.
Either way making installation safe before further use is essential having advised the responsible person of the situation and risks.
In the case of an ID, if you believe the responsible person is likely to continue using the appliance I would notify the emergency provider.
Don't forget to issue warning notices.
Top video from top man!
In that situation though you can leave yourself open to being sued/prosecuted. If you ID an appliance that is only deemed AR, and the occupier refuses you to cap off and you call the gas transporter to come and dig the main up, not only are you going to have to foot the bill for the gas to be re-connected but should the occupier come down with any health issues due to the gas being cut off, YOU are going to be in front of a Magistrate/Crown court for not competently carrying out the correct procedures as set out in the GIUSP.
Derek bring these quiz back they’re so good
Quality content 👊🏽
Love your channel. Quite helpfull
Please do more . I love it !!
Top video 😄😄
Thank you Derek , Mohamed Hassan
I’ve had learn a lot from you man,,, I really appreciate you for your nice teaching all about Gas, I study Gas in the logic for treading in west of London, there is like an Agancy for making money ,nothing els,, but after following you I do understand many things ,
God bless you,🌷🌷
Your videos have helped me get through my Gas safe course bud. Thank you
Did you do your CCN1?
The last example with short flues is in Hammersmith&Fulham. I'm working on this contract for the last 12 years (as a plumber though). They extended the flues now. Great video Derek please do some more all of my family watch it including kids.
Cheers will do 👍🏻
Hi Derek, thank you SO much. I've got my exams soon and really struggle with just reading, so this test is such a great way to learn and help make it stick. Going to look if you have others like this. :)
If you go onto my channel you will find quite a few in the ACS revision
thank you tom
Thanks Tom
Brilliant video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
cant believe the dodgy flue system consisting of a beautiful pan connector is no a id
wouldnt you class that as a inappropriate gas fitting mind boggling great video as always mate
Top man😀😀
last one was a good one.from my first look i said AR...For me i who run boiler and assess how its products of its products realeased and if they a point of concern.
Derek you are a legend in the Gas industry 😎
Part 2 part 2 part 2 part 2 part 2.... 😄
Good video
Can you make more videos like this it really does help cheers
Great video as always. Just one thing though, I spoke to Gas Safe on the flue integrity question when I encountered a similar situation and I was told the flue integrity test was actually a commissioning test and their was no obligation to carry one out on a landlord's certificate. Apparently as long as the ratio and co ppm are fine it's okay.
But for peace of mind and best practices what would you do. Also if you have concerns about the flue the integrity test could help you identify a fault so it’s not just a commission test. We train it as best practice like we do with the sweep test 👍🏻
Forgive for this dumb question what is ppm I know what co is. I’ve probably done PPm a thousand times, could just Google it I guess. I think it’s testing
@@salcarlito5319 it's parts per million mate. That's what our flue gas analysers measure carbon monoxide concentration in.
What excellent video. you are master teacher. I really love your video, either. My son, who is 10 years old, enjoys😂 watching it
There's some dodgy stuff out there Derek LOL ......ace video cheers pal.
You’re the man, subscribed long time ago and of course thumbs up mate. My only advice to make your channel boom is make your videos shorter. That’s not a criticism, if you, it’s the attention span of the people of today. I watch your videos in full cos I have a keen interest and I like your information v much.
Jon-Paul Ward that boiler with the water pipes routed through the window!!!!!! Shocking stuff!
👍 full marks
The balcony example i have seen, a classic client answer is " it has been like that for years, never a problem" OR "It was installed before those regulations" !!!!
I totally agree Derek
You’re the best 😆
Thanks
Hi Derik thank you for sharing this videos on you tube, I find them really helpful, could you do a video for site risk assessment if possible
Great video. What about the vented sofit on the one with the Worcester flue??
The flues terminating into the enclosed passage way is a tricky one as it also depends which way the wind is blowing on the day for ID OR AR. I’ve had this before and always ID them .
You need more training 😄 termination flue clearances are in most training books. Big table
@Copper Skills You've got to be trolling 🤣 I refuse to believe you're serious hahaa which way the wind is blowing!
Brilliant video. Can you do more of these
Look out for Monday’s video 👍🏻
Thank you, Nikola Ditsov
thank you
No doubt about it ID
Great videos and quiz to get the brain working.
Toilet pipework flue definitely be I.D as would fall under serious flueing deficiency as described in 6.1 the table of examples is a non exhaustive list and are examples. I find it best to use 6.1 and 6.2 descriptions of I.D or A.R.
Also condensate pipework into sink surely would be dependent on trap depth installed at boiler and if the manufacturer allows an air gap internally etc.
I.D all day long, imagine the FGA readings let alone the flue....
Top video. Straight to the point. Very informative. I found this really engaging as it got me thinking quiet a bit. It got me thinking that much that I was pausing it so I had more than two seconds 🤣. The document you were referring to is that available for us to download etc? Thanks Derek. Much appreciated. 👍🏻
Asian Jon. Training.
Yes it is mate
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numer 5 ID all day long ....:)
Ha love these, if only to contradict lol, yes gsuip state inappropriate fitting ie push fit is I.d. and riddor but if you think about it and about 4:47 in you say "could" as opposed to "is" so really it's just 'ar', - that said lol never use plastic fittings on gas, I think its more to do withstanding heat in fire conditions or blowing off due to low gas pressure compared to water pressure
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Brill video yet again could you do some more on these situations and the procedure you would take once you have catorgarised them. Ie would you Isolate appliance disconnect appliance form gas supply ect
Thank you
You seen Monday’s video 😜👍🏻
I like the conservatory example in your video. What about if a builder during works damaged an appliance which made it unsafe? I am thinking ID section 1.5 of unsafe situations and possibly RIDDOR the builder?
Please do more
With RIDDOR reportable cases it's difficult to prove who's installed the pipework/fittings . I don't think HSE would investigate much into the inappropriate fittings used on pipework. No gas safe registered person in their right mind would use push fit fittings, would they 😯. A builder, handyman or kitchen fitter maybe.
Either way it's hard to prove who carried out the work as HSE rarely prosecute the culprits.
If it were a G.S.R person, they'd most probably loose their licence. Or if people die as a consequence of negligence then it's a jail term.
Excellent work Derek, really enjoyed this 😊
I completely agree with you but riddor is also used to see if our industry is in a bad place but because most engineers don’t riddor the HSE thinks our industry is safe but as we all know we cover up for non registered by just fixing the problem. Thanks for watching and your great comment cheers 👍🏻
@@tomkatgastraining HSE are the Governing bodies of Gas Safe, aren't they? They own Gas Safe and all it's rights. This is what I previously read anyway. Is this correct?
@@rayc1503 as far as I am aware the HSE is a safety Body for the government and gas safe is like the police force for gas but gas safe don’t have the powers to prosecute it’s the HSE that takes you to court not gas safe. The HSE is for all safety issues not just gas so not to sure if they would have anything to do with gas safe
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Can you please do more like this video
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Great video as usual sir, I can't wait watching the rest of them. Just a quick question: where it will be possible to get a copy of that book which you been using, please let me know. Thanks again
You can download it free from IGEM
ID that any day anytime
On the one with all the drainage fittings on the flue, surely the combustion would read crap as it’s pulling products of combustion back into the burner.
When you mention testing if CO products is no more then 10ppm what device do you use? Analyser or CO detector?
the one where they have bodged the flue out the window, AR means it could potentially become unsafe, but I would say it is immediately unsafe as the boiler would not combust or function correct so would have to be ID