I love your vids man, the fact u spend so much time on research and editing and still pumping out those vids nearly every week is insane. Love the content keep it up
In competitive play sure i agree, but i climbed from silver to diamond with the old fiora with a 75% wr. So i know some things about the champ. This champion is supposed to max w and e-q-e-q. You have the ability to one shot carries with q a e a tiamat q a. Back when ignite top was meta, fiora was probably one of the most snowbally champ. You think she was badly designed, but think about the champions back then. Old poppy, sion, nunu etc. yeah she seemed to be badly designed compared to new champs now but she wasnt nearly as bad as you described in this video. There were literally players that got to high challenger with the old fiora.
@@rhinex383 Exactly, I remember playing her in Season 3 and her being incredibly busted. If you finished ravenous hydra on her she can basically heal to full health with one ultimate. She wins most skirmishes she fights. The poke on her Q early game was crazy, it was a guaranteed double poke. Just Q, step back to kite, Q. It made her impossible to flash away from too. I remember her dominating every solo que I fought her in, or if I played her.
Udyr doesn't really need much change though. I think it'd be cool if his character changed a bit more when he changed stances, and I feel like it'd be cool if his skills actually did something more than just change stances. Udyr is also a champion I wish would have 20 levels instead of 18, although only getting skill points for the last 2 levels. As for Udyr being forgotten, it has gotten loads of balance changes over the years, so it's not nearly as bad as Fiora.
That was like the only reason anyone played her. When the entire enemy team started collapsing on you and you're like yes, come closer my pretties. Unfortunately people started learning that splash damage can't splash if you're not standing right next to everyone else. So toward the end you'd ult and people would spread out immediately and you'd end up just using the entire channel on the tank or something.
@Lydia Köffler Her ultimate shouldn't allow her for more %health true damage. Honestly she should have something like Vayne R, ms toward champs and ad, but instead of invis q it gives like 25% tenacity, slow and cripple resistance, she is melee _carry_ after all?
@@Zenith07 as a Fiora Main i respect your fear and respect as to not take a match up against us... But fuck You, You end up forcing me to go Ornn and actually join teamfights
You got stunned under tower. You should keep in mind that a lot of champions can bait you into diving before rooting or stunning you for the tower to kill. Try playing Safer next time! Thank you GOSU.
Fartalone It is, but Riot wont ever do anything about it. Having a duo bot lane means you will most likely win lane due to synergy picks and better comm. Or having top/jg or mid/jg duo means you can co-ordinate ganks and invades better. Duo queue players will always have an advantage over solo players. Pretty bs that’s we will never have a “true soloQ” lobby
@@Aliens1337 its not that big pf a difference , you are just bad at game, so you are looking for excuses why others are good. If you know they are premades, then play around it
I mean, his kit is a bit old now. People don't play him because of that, even tho he's concept is really cool. He's getting a rework, I hope they don't make him overpower and then gut him. Cheers :)
@@GloomyGhost28 he is a ranged champ with 3 point and clickabilities without any depth in them. He is surely terribly designed for todays standard of having 20 passives + 15 different spells pressed into those 4 spell kits. :D
@@foresightfox1256 he is so old...he litteraly is only useful because of his point and click silence and fear..his W is useless outside of the jungle and thats litteraly ut
@@thefisherguy7269 y that why people started playing him support. He is just a point and click cc bot and that horrible champ design. I am hyped for voli and fiddle rework tho
Nowadays I feel Yasuo is much more hated than Teemo. Teemo's shrooms are super annoying but he's such a simple champion that you always kinda know what to expect, even if the Teemo player is terrible. But Yasuo always reminds me of that old meme: "Our Yasuo... Their Yasuo". You never get a Yasuo that does "just fine" in a game. He either styles super hard or feeds his ass off, there's no middle term. Yasuo players seem like they don't want to let themselves get carried. They either carry hard or feed their asses off trying to look good, bringing their team down the drain with them. Also, the fact that many Yasuos love to flash their mastery emotes after extremely underwhelming plays, like they just did something impressive, really doesn't help their reputation
@@psyclops973 I actually agree with this, I despise Yasuo more than Teemo, mainly on the fact that whenever you team up with a random Yasuo player it's a 50/50 "win or lose" game, they're either a toxic god or a toxic feeder, both annoying in their own right, there's never a middle ground.
Especially with the Dragon changes. Bot lane has infinitely more priority for junglers. The first rift you get top side is pretty awful, and it's never hardly used well / it's too weak to use well. Plus there isn't that many top laners besides Garen that terrify me if they're fed.
Sadly the way top works now is either both pick melee bruiser/tanks and have a fun time 1v1ing each other, or one picks Vayne/Neeko/Teemo/Gnar/Kennen and completly remove the fun out of the other opponent for about 12 minutes. Counterpicks are also way to impactful and to add salt to the wound Herald is 100 times less import than Dragons.
Is it possible to make documentary about Akali the Rogue Assasin.? Would Be interested and many others might be aswell. Still love all documents about champions. Thank You for making these to us.
When I started playing the game at season 2 my friends told me: You can only play with us when you are level 30. And so my alone journey of learning began
I've played league for over 9 years now and watched league content ever since, but tbh your content is my favourite league content. Your storytelling is great, your research and editing are sooo good and ialways get reminded of so many things i havent thought about in a long time (as e.g. tiamat fiora). One of the best things about your channel is your voice though. Its so calming, i just love to listen to 20-30 min videos after a long day and just relax and hear you talk about the game that i've played more than any other game. Keep up the great work. Your style of making videos i unique and incredibly good! :)
I don't really watch league content anymore, except for this channel. I still play the game pretty actively but most of the videos that aren't memes just put me to sleep. This channel keeps me awake and captivated.
@@CuriousityFTW I mean he went with the info he got, but it was false info because the majority of people who responded only played AD URF Malzahar. Hence the misinformation rework.
@@lightdragoon88 I can forgive changes made based on "false info." That being said: I absolutely cannot say the same for how he went completely radio silent for the 1.5-2 years where everyone was saying they hated Malzahar and that he needed a revert. I'll never forget that, let alone forgive it.
"Forgotten fighters, named Fiora" That alliteration got me absolutely hooked into these documentary style videos. WOW! Your voice is so calming, and your research so alarming. Absolutely keep doing what you do.
damn this makes me miss old fiora so much. I remember learning to play her and perfecting a build on her that allowed carrying in any situation, AD+crit always did it for me 😭 but I love playing new fiora, she was my most played champ before the rework and still is after. one of the best reworks alongside irelia.
@@Jackdiddly1 it wasnt toxic. shit just the passive proc from pantheon would cancel the entire ult. meanwhile you have yi with his q literally up every few seconds. most of her kit was underpowered at the time but still could be enjoyable if you tried to master her.
Bro i've said it before, your videos are amazing. But now i realize that your music taste is sth else. Every time u upload a video a bunch of new tracks get added to my playlist.
Man, I can't stress how good these videos are. The quality of your content is just amazing, I'm always excited to watch your new vids. Keep up the good work, man!
Wow this came out really quick! I've watched all your documentary's at least twice, this is probably my favourite league content out there! (Sorry gbay) you've done vidoes on all these bruisers/carries, you should mix mix swirl mix it up with some singed. he's a champ with some long history, from mana stacking to full tank and now the full healing unkillable singed, it always seems like no matter what items/runes are strong, singed can find a way to use it. and for the last 2 seasons he's had a really strong winrate at all ranks, even topping the top lane winrate, but always a low pick rate, desipte barely any buffs or nurfs. Even when proguides puts singed as the best top lane pick, his pickrate barely goes up. I know me and the other singed mains on reddit would love to tell you what we think about playing singed over the years. Keep up the amazing content :D
I'm some lv 20 noob that hardly plays LoL, hard to get into after all the FPS I played. However I asked my friend one day if Fiora was any good, and he showed me some simple stuff. So I tend to play her when I hop now and then. Thanks for the video and history. :)
I love this video! With my experience as a Gold Fiora main, she is easily one of the most fun and rewarding champion to play. She is easy to learn, and because of the high skill-cap she has, each game you play with her only makes you a better player! This video really helped motivate me, even more, to become better with her!
*Fiora player since 2012, Explaining the Royal Guard Change and why it was actually really good* The rework to the Royal Guard actually made it one of my favourite skins for her. Based on the Royal French Guard, the rework version has a much better usage of the Royal Blue that was used to identify these guards. THEY FIXED HER HAT TOO! She used to look like a Pirate with the old hat, a symetrical flat and wide hat. New hat? Boom. The hat's bend on the left side allows her to downstrike with the wrist without cutting her hat in half. They also quite literally put a feather in her cap. Some people may be upset that they removed the cleavage from the skin, but honestly it makes more sense to me to represent the esteemed duelist of House Laurent serving now as a Royal Guard with a more sophisticated and dignified look. Fiora doesn't care about drawing attention with looks, but with actions and it's a small change that helps push that message. It also aligned the Splash Art and colour pallette to be more with the Three Musketeer Theme and when we finally recieve our third Musketeer we will have Fiora, Twisted Fate and some Mystery Champion as a Skin Trio which is a pretty cool idea tbh. When compared to 750RP for Nightraven which while okay is just Fiora if the Art Direction was "more red, more black, more cleavage", the option for 520RP to get a Royal Guard with an actual Duelist's Cap is really special for some players.
I love the research you spend on these man, as a Fiora main myself I am honestly so glad she got reworked so long ago. If she was still the same way, I would've hated her design so much.
Fiora is the bruiser that even bruiser players hate: 1. Good dueling/lane pressure due to buffs 2. Godly split pushing due to buffs 3. A stat check passive and ultimate And still no nerfs because of her wr
-b... bu... bu... but she is difficult! -surely. Well, it was eith old Conq with true damage, but still. 9 lvl, me Urgot and Fiora, she had vamp scept and tiamat, me had phage and bramble west. She missed parry, she rarely hit vitals aside some from her ult, and still just outright smashed me without too much health lost and destroying FOUR ZOGGING PLATES, while I respawn and went to line. She needs items? She needs skill? REALLY?
@@bobbygeorge9181, in this case it makes even less sense. What's the point of existance of this champ? Be annoying not only by kit, but also because the things you can counter her is kinda minor, like slow, reducing attack speed, reducing heal (dd, ravenous hydra and bloodthirster won't get it either). Saying it other way - all defensive items' cost efficiency would be sent to hell. But all this just for annoying your opponent SO hard that even Teemo got amazed. Brilliant game design, just a holy hell toxic champ, who is just toxic, because all this stuff as a result anyway don't win games. And while I thought there is nothing more genius than that, Vayne steps in... Having the only problem Fiora is so idiotic champ - true percent damage.
@@mohamedezubeik8892 Adcs broken top (i.e Lucian, Vayne)? Absolutely. But I don't think adcs when playing as actual adcs are that broken as a role. Maybe some individual champions like Kai'Sa. But I'm no expert either way🤷♂️🤷♂️
I really enjoy these videos. I'm glad Gbay started this trend of League Documentaries because this really gives me a nostalgia trip. I can watch these with my girlfriend and give her my insight about living through all this. She just goes "wow that's fucking stupid" and I would just say "I KNOW I LIVED THROUGH IT".
Her passive is exactly what Riot says they want to avoid having, rng. If they can fix her passive I would find her much more enjoyable both to play and play against
Thank you for putting consistent effort into these and i enjoy having a meal while i watch them. I specifically remember re watching the riven and yasuo ones until more came out. For your next documentey i would love to see azir as he would be quite interesting. Cheers
From a former Fiora main: old fiora was so fun and rewarding in top lane when you would win because you were usually overmatched at the champion level. I dont enjoy the new fiora at all :(
@@kaisercreb so basically The same Lunge The Parry turned into an actually useful skill that requires timing The E turned into an AS and crit instead of movespeed and AS And the ult went from being Yi's Q to an actually useful ultimate Na mate, You just liked to stack Tiamat and ult for easy penta
I played old fiora for a bit when I was a noob at the game too. Now that I've had the new fio for 5 years I don't really miss it but I did remember thinking the old fio was kinda cool. She's still my go to carry top lane pick for all the reasons mentioned in the video
As a former Bruiser Fizz onetrick, I would love to see an essay about Fizz‘ history. He was so good as a midlaner in S3/4. I remember every pro game beeing Fizz vs Kassadin mid. Nowadays he is just a solo q pick and he got so many changes to his kit
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz She was just special for me. I mean i started playing league in season 4 and i fell in love with fiora I got to silver with her and even if she was bad or good i was enjoying the gameplay. Its just not the same anymore.
As an old fiora main, I was really upset by the rework, and while she did never get competitive, but she was a VERY effective pub smasher. Even without Tiamat stacking, A single Tiamat was enough to decimate a teamfight in a corridor.
I used to main old Fiora 😭 I was a one trick Fiora player, she was so fun. I remember with the right runes and masteries I would cheese the top laner with 109 AD at lvl 2 with red pot, bonus W AD, and using the mastery that would give 5 AD after using ignite
I was around for fiora's release. I can tell you on solo queue, she was insane. She ate everything. But she was item dependant after early game, no one ignored tiamat, no one ignored bloodthirster. then we had some adjustments and bug fixes and she felt odd. after that, she kind of became a weaker riven - you just didnt want to face her because she felt tedious to face, and was tedious to play.
Fio as a champ currently is an aggravatingly simple duelist masquerading as a champ with a high skill ceiling when in reality shes been buffed to the point where she has lost any discernible identity of her own.
A good Fiora is like Darius where if your a melee and pick into her, you kind of get dicked all lane and all you can hope for is being more useful than her in team fights.
@@ClassicBeatBox the difference is that Darius has actually clear weaknesess. Darius needs to be fed to be relevant in his team. If he is not, it is very easy to outscale him. Has no mobilite, you can play around his Q, and if he fails his E, you have a window of almost 25 seconds to punish him. And the most important part, you are not force to fight him. In he other hand, Fiora has a passive that doesnt seem like it was designed to be in a PvP game giving her healing and free poke, harasment, and being lane bully. Lets not forget que if it hits que spot, she gets SM to back off and make it hard for you to punish her for engaing. You dont know how to fight her and you want to play a safe laning phase? Surprise, you cant tank yourself because her poke also makes true demage, so you like it or not, you have to fight her and build health and ofensive. Also becareful with dying or going to base, because now 2 of her abilities helps her to take towers faster. Meanwhile, Shen players (yes, one of my mains) cant hit towers with their Qs. Meanwhile, Fiora players can fill their ego while thinking about how pro they are for hitting a weakspot of the size of ¼ the the enemy's radius, making them stay back and not being able to farm just only because of she existing. So she not only is a lane bully, but she also can snowball and has good scaling. Sorry if you are a Fiora main and I offend you with the "ego" comment. I know not all players are like this, but I, and a lot other players really have stand a lot of cocky players, and a huge of they are Fiora mains jerking off over the thought of good duelists they are. Of course, she can be beaten, but the case change a lot when you fight against an actually good Fiora player. And again, you can beat her, but that doesnt take away how unfun it is to play against her, and how horribly designed she is for League being a PvP game.
Whenever I watch any of these "forgotten" or "OP" champ videos... I start feeling old... Having only really played from late beta to early S4, all these "forgotten" champs were constantly played when I played this game.
Make one of every champ, i want Kog Maw the forgotten Adc. Top 5 least played champs, banrate. Absolut outdated compared to newer adc like kaisa xayah and aphelios.
Funny how some group of people always say "I prefer old Fiora/I love old Fiora/I only play old Fiora and I want her back" but in reality, no one played her until she got a rework XD
Hey Exil, just a request/question here, but have you ever thought about doing a documentary on Yorick? From being voted the most unfun champion to play AND play against, to his rework going silent for several years, to his triumphant return and subsequent nerfs and his current mediocrity (he's not great, but he's not bad), I'd love to see you tell the story of my favorite champion.
For me Fiora Is perfect for now, riot should not touch her for a moment because she is actually balanced. Well now she just need a Legendary skin that it. Your video was very nice keep it up :)
Loving these vids! I've been playing for a few years, since Yorick's rework. So seeing the history I missed out on is really something, and I really enjoy it. Here's a concept for a vid- You mention the whole thing about how pro play to single queue is vastly different, and that's true! And this applies to champs too. Some that are D tier in ranked are considered popular bans or picks in pro. And because of this, have had kits changed drastically to effect pro play, but crippling the champ in solo. Who am I talking about? Tahm Kench. I love this guy dearly but he's been tough to use lately! And so many changes, history, and having one heck of a shake up in how often he's been picked in pro and ranked, ect. Think about it! :)
I'd love to see a video on tiamat. It's such an interesting item and has loads of cool interactions. One of my favorites being the Alistar bug where tiamat would cancel the w knockback so you could q for an even longer cc combo
@@bater1762 I still play him just because of his look he is kinda strong and kinda weak he is both If they would rework him or bring back his revive passive people would truly be picking him cause he can fight
@@paradoxwraith5275 no the revive passive is just shit tbh i think they just need to give him some more dmg and hell some armor or something cause he WILL be shit on by any ranged/tank or bruiser if they have seen an aatrox before
I love your vids man, the fact u spend so much time on research and editing and still pumping out those vids nearly every week is insane.
Love the content keep it up
thank you!!!!
@Poke Poke so what do you like, stay far away in the back throwing ranged 'poke'.
true true so much effort in a weekly video love this..😀
In competitive play sure i agree, but i climbed from silver to diamond with the old fiora with a 75% wr. So i know some things about the champ. This champion is supposed to max w and e-q-e-q. You have the ability to one shot carries with q a e a tiamat q a. Back when ignite top was meta, fiora was probably one of the most snowbally champ. You think she was badly designed, but think about the champions back then. Old poppy, sion, nunu etc. yeah she seemed to be badly designed compared to new champs now but she wasnt nearly as bad as you described in this video. There were literally players that got to high challenger with the old fiora.
@@rhinex383 Exactly, I remember playing her in Season 3 and her being incredibly busted. If you finished ravenous hydra on her she can basically heal to full health with one ultimate. She wins most skirmishes she fights. The poke on her Q early game was crazy, it was a guaranteed double poke. Just Q, step back to kite, Q. It made her impossible to flash away from too. I remember her dominating every solo que I fought her in, or if I played her.
Title: "Forgetten Fighter named Fiora"
Me matching with a Fiora and losing 4 times in a row: "sure.."
Lol.
Bro you just sucks
@@MrSoso1050 and u swallow bro
@@Aralent_6470 lol
@@Aralent_6470 aaaand now let someone else explain what is worse HA!
I was waiting for the Hashinshin clip:
"WHY IS FIORA UNBANNED"
But it didn't come
*RIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTERSTRIKE!!!*
*RIGHT THROUGH THE BANNING PHASE*
Or "Can't do anything about fiora, GOD FUCKING HELP US IF WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT FIORA"
*but nobody came..*
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To like this comment..
"WHAT IS GOD"
"the Champion the League of Legends forgot"
*cries in udyr*
in low elo he and master yi make everyone cry haha
they must've forgot x)
@@pnpem El trucco.
Udyr doesn't really need much change though. I think it'd be cool if his character changed a bit more when he changed stances, and I feel like it'd be cool if his skills actually did something more than just change stances. Udyr is also a champion I wish would have 20 levels instead of 18, although only getting skill points for the last 2 levels.
As for Udyr being forgotten, it has gotten loads of balance changes over the years, so it's not nearly as bad as Fiora.
Cries in pre-rework Mordekaiser
Fiora : swing her blade
Hashinshin : *very angry streamer complaints*
Hashishin: *Complains in Hashishin*
He is right 90 percent of the time
Unstoppable by the way
@@rasmusmalmberg6468 bruh you guys are still on that?
@@rasmusmalmberg6468 LMAO
The old Fiora ult was one of the most satisfying abilities to use in League imo
Agreee i miss it
I wasnt playing at the time but it sure looked op as fuck lmao
They didn't care about us common players they only cared about pro😢
as an ex fiora main I agree her ult was fun to use.
That was like the only reason anyone played her. When the entire enemy team started collapsing on you and you're like yes, come closer my pretties.
Unfortunately people started learning that splash damage can't splash if you're not standing right next to everyone else.
So toward the end you'd ult and people would spread out immediately and you'd end up just using the entire channel on the tank or something.
Bruh how can you say Fiora is the champion rito “forgot” when Skarner exists. Hasn’t even gotten a skin in 4-5 years.
The better question is who is Skarner?
@@kensei_anime why is Skarner??
Ornn has fewer skins
Forgot refers to buffs and nerfs and competitive viability.
Rwdphotos Ornn got one leaked I think
"Being terrible is relative" *shows fiddlesticks*
:( feelsbadman
:C
I kinda like fiddle , always fuck with yi or any high mobi champ XD
Fiddle is getting reworked lol
I love Fiddlesticks :(
And I'm A F R A I D his rework will succ
@@toretronio9030 he looks badass in the concepts
Fiora: Get's damage to towers so she can splitpush, has true damage to murder tanks.
Aatrox:
Gets his revive taken away and made useless by an 800 gold item
Well fiora can easily smash an aatrox with some skill
Fiora outright murdered old aatrox as well
I wish fiora to stop existing more than than fing YASUO
@Lydia Köffler Her ultimate shouldn't allow her for more %health true damage. Honestly she should have something like Vayne R, ms toward champs and ad, but instead of invis q it gives like 25% tenacity, slow and cripple resistance, she is melee _carry_ after all?
"All of the other AD carries had at least some stint in competitive play"
*Proceeds to list broken AP variations for melee carries*
I miss old fiora ult :'(
OMG HELLO THERE HAHAHA I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
@@djasuncion cringe
@@idontknowwhatimdoingexcept5463 cRiNgE
@@djasuncion ikr
Wow didnt know you played league and keep up the good work
I might be extremely late but the fact you reply to comments makes me happy knowing you truly engage with your community
:) glad to just communicate with all the supporters of the videos. Thank you!
I remember playing her with 6 Bloodthirsters. having 600ad and 120% lifesteal was so good.
Exil: "Fiora is a forgotten champion"
Hash: To this day still bans Fiora whenever he is toplane
Not really...He also ONLY plays toplane so your comment dont make sense
jadeKind i dont blame him honestly, I ban Fiora 80% of the time, 20% on vayne.
Fuck fiora tho.
@@Zenith07 as a Fiora Main i respect your fear and respect as to not take a match up against us... But fuck You, You end up forcing me to go Ornn and actually join teamfights
@@Dr_Weirdoo Doesn't Fiora completely counter Ornn tho?
@@funfofa yeah but he bans fiora
0:18 GOSU really just said "If your opponent has low HP, make an attempt to kill him" XD
omg now Iam enlightened
You got stunned under tower. You should keep in mind that a lot of champions can bait you into diving before rooting or stunning you for the tower to kill.
Try playing Safer next time!
Thank you GOSU.
@@Illegiblescream Pro tip: You complete the game by winning
Exil: “it will boost your confidence”
Yeah because having an AI telling me what to do sure makes me feel good about myself
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Most people say this ai is cheating
@@Scyclo then duo queue is cheating too
Fartalone It is, but Riot wont ever do anything about it.
Having a duo bot lane means you will most likely win lane due to synergy picks and better comm. Or having top/jg or mid/jg duo means you can co-ordinate ganks and invades better.
Duo queue players will always have an advantage over solo players. Pretty bs that’s we will never have a “true soloQ” lobby
@@Aliens1337 its not that big pf a difference , you are just bad at game, so you are looking for excuses why others are good. If you know they are premades, then play around it
This guys voice, holy shit i could listen for hours. Great video!
thank you!!
Feels bad that there are a lot of people haven’t played the old Fiora. She felt good
Thomas Hoang i miss it
I quitted for 4 years and came back like 3 months ago. I miss the old leagues so much, such a good times
My favorite part of old fiora was her attack speed lol
@@dicorockhimself try those runes whi give you atk speed on fight.
one of the best champs i ever play in 10 years of league. never touched her again after her dogshit rework
_"Fiora is now the best split pusher in game"_
Yorick: *So, what's my purpose?*
Fiora got her game-feel and aesthetic gutted. In exchange she got viability in a different archetype. That's a monkey paw wish if I've ever seen one.
yeah id much rather have the old fiora that sucked that i loved to play other than the new one that i ignore
„being terrible is relative”
*shows Fiddlesticks*
as a Fiddle main i got offended
I mean, his kit is a bit old now. People don't play him because of that, even tho he's concept is really cool. He's getting a rework, I hope they don't make him overpower and then gut him. Cheers :)
@@GloomyGhost28 dont worry his rework is coming
@@GloomyGhost28 he is a ranged champ with 3 point and clickabilities without any depth in them. He is surely terribly designed for todays standard of having 20 passives + 15 different spells pressed into those 4 spell kits. :D
@@foresightfox1256 he is so old...he litteraly is only useful because of his point and click silence and fear..his W is useless outside of the jungle and thats litteraly ut
@@thefisherguy7269 y that why people started playing him support. He is just a point and click cc bot and that horrible champ design. I am hyped for voli and fiddle rework tho
Can I get Gosu to tell me to stop trying to fight my lane opponent when I'm behind because damn someone needs to
League of Legends's most hated champion - Teemo Documentary
Yasuo?
@@pebblebrowser You hate playing against Teemo but you hate playing eith Yasuo
Nowadays I feel Yasuo is much more hated than Teemo. Teemo's shrooms are super annoying but he's such a simple champion that you always kinda know what to expect, even if the Teemo player is terrible. But Yasuo always reminds me of that old meme: "Our Yasuo... Their Yasuo". You never get a Yasuo that does "just fine" in a game. He either styles super hard or feeds his ass off, there's no middle term. Yasuo players seem like they don't want to let themselves get carried. They either carry hard or feed their asses off trying to look good, bringing their team down the drain with them.
Also, the fact that many Yasuos love to flash their mastery emotes after extremely underwhelming plays, like they just did something impressive, really doesn't help their reputation
@@aomda355 Truth
@@psyclops973 I actually agree with this, I despise Yasuo more than Teemo, mainly on the fact that whenever you team up with a random Yasuo player it's a 50/50 "win or lose" game, they're either a toxic god or a toxic feeder, both annoying in their own right, there's never a middle ground.
"...top lane a *fun* and *important* role."
Sorry but this is just straight up not true lol
Top lane is just a 1v1 aram gamemod
@@allesarfint found the ADC player
@@shprite781 Jokes on you, I suck in every rol specially ADC
Especially with the Dragon changes. Bot lane has infinitely more priority for junglers. The first rift you get top side is pretty awful, and it's never hardly used well / it's too weak to use well. Plus there isn't that many top laners besides Garen that terrify me if they're fed.
Sadly the way top works now is either both pick melee bruiser/tanks and have a fun time 1v1ing each other, or one picks Vayne/Neeko/Teemo/Gnar/Kennen and completly remove the fun out of the other opponent for about 12 minutes. Counterpicks are also way to impactful and to add salt to the wound Herald is 100 times less import than Dragons.
"The Forgotten Fighter"
The Forgotten Project: "Write that down, Write that down!!"
Did you guys see the new Riot Forge games? An RPG?? Ekko Platformer? Wow.
Ekko platformer?? I'm hyped now
Is it possible to make documentary about Akali the Rogue Assasin.? Would Be interested and many others might be aswell. Still love all documents about champions. Thank You for making these to us.
Yeah pro guides post it
@@user-qj7iw1ix5m yes for sure Akali will get one, im thinking in the next month or so
Fifth
i remember back in the day we called fiora the richman's master yi
I Player for almost 9 years and never heard about it lol
Who? Who called her that? I never heard that before.
When I started playing the game at season 2 my friends told me: You can only play with us when you are level 30. And so my alone journey of learning began
LOL oh my god your friends are so mean
@@Exil22 Yes they were. Since no one told me how the game works I still remember I used to build Statik on Nautilus and Tiamant on Graves
@@Ravenerpo On Season 2 and 3 yes. But it had no effect at all.
Back when graves was a real adc with 500 attack range
Sonny Sahatoo 550*
I never forgot old fiora is my fovourite campion very sad to let her go T_T
me too man
god damn i missed old fiora ult it was so fun in that days when i was playing league.
Fiora used to be my fav champ before the rework and still is... I love this champ but I don't play her anymore.
Have a nice day Kellen!
thank you, you too!
I feel like Gangplank is more like ranged with a minor in melee after the laning phase. And even then, through most of it
I've played league for over 9 years now and watched league content ever since, but tbh your content is my favourite league content.
Your storytelling is great, your research and editing are sooo good and ialways get reminded of so many things i havent thought about in a long time (as e.g. tiamat fiora).
One of the best things about your channel is your voice though. Its so calming, i just love to listen to 20-30 min videos after a long day and just relax and hear you talk about the game that i've played more than any other game.
Keep up the great work. Your style of making videos i unique and incredibly good! :)
I don't really watch league content anymore, except for this channel. I still play the game pretty actively but most of the videos that aren't memes just put me to sleep. This channel keeps me awake and captivated.
Exil's channel is literally Riot's archives of shame - the documentary
*Forgotten Fighter named Fiora*
Me being stupid: If she was forgotten then how do you remember her name if people forgot about her?
you know what, you may have got me there.
*checks notes* Uhh just drink the kool-aid please
@@Exil22 Averdrian is the real forgotten champion.
big brain time
The misinformation rework: Malzahar
I still hate Repertoire for that one.
@@CuriousityFTW I mean he went with the info he got, but it was false info because the majority of people who responded only played AD URF Malzahar. Hence the misinformation rework.
@@lightdragoon88 I can forgive changes made based on "false info."
That being said: I absolutely cannot say the same for how he went completely radio silent for the 1.5-2 years where everyone was saying they hated Malzahar and that he needed a revert.
I'll never forget that, let alone forgive it.
@@CuriousityFTW now that....I can agree with.
I'd love a Teemo video^^
Love the videos and the style! Keep it up.
thank you! Teemo will get a video for sure!
.... for real
"Forgotten fighters, named Fiora"
That alliteration got me absolutely hooked into these documentary style videos. WOW! Your voice is so calming, and your research so alarming. Absolutely keep doing what you do.
damn this makes me miss old fiora so much. I remember learning to play her and perfecting a build on her that allowed carrying in any situation, AD+crit always did it for me 😭 but I love playing new fiora, she was my most played champ before the rework and still is after. one of the best reworks alongside irelia.
Honestly I hope they bring the old Fiora ultimate back. That was one of the coolest ultimates.
Yi q :am i a Joke to u
It was a toxic ability
new fiora but with her old ult...dude you wouldnt even be able to play she would be 100% banned
@@pauldumont1442 she will hit all 5 enemies vitals in one ult
@@Jackdiddly1 it wasnt toxic. shit just the passive proc from pantheon would cancel the entire ult. meanwhile you have yi with his q literally up every few seconds. most of her kit was underpowered at the time but still could be enjoyable if you tried to master her.
Hey, I really like these type of videos and as a former Poppy main before the rework. I love to see a video about Poppy. Keep up the great work!
I will do poppy for sure!!
Browczarski poppy is assassin.
The Forgotten Fighter Fiora? How about the Forgotten Champion Skarner
Huh? Who's that??
Bro i've said it before, your videos are amazing. But now i realize that your music taste is sth else. Every time u upload a video a bunch of new tracks get added to my playlist.
Man, I can't stress how good these videos are. The quality of your content is just amazing, I'm always excited to watch your new vids. Keep up the good work, man!
Imagine a voice screaming at me throughout the game no thank you got my teammates for that
Riot 8 years ago: Lets make shit champs
Riot now: lets make overtuned champs
I'd love to see the community reaction of a new champion release having old Fiora's ultimate. Imagine Reddit lmao.
Wow this came out really quick!
I've watched all your documentary's at least twice, this is probably my favourite league content out there! (Sorry gbay)
you've done vidoes on all these bruisers/carries, you should mix mix swirl mix it up with some singed. he's a champ with some long history, from mana stacking to full tank and now the full healing unkillable singed, it always seems like no matter what items/runes are strong, singed can find a way to use it. and for the last 2 seasons he's had a really strong winrate at all ranks, even topping the top lane winrate, but always a low pick rate, desipte barely any buffs or nurfs. Even when proguides puts singed as the best top lane pick, his pickrate barely goes up. I know me and the other singed mains on reddit would love to tell you what we think about playing singed over the years.
Keep up the amazing content :D
I'm some lv 20 noob that hardly plays LoL, hard to get into after all the FPS I played. However I asked my friend one day if Fiora was any good, and he showed me some simple stuff. So I tend to play her when I hop now and then. Thanks for the video and history. :)
A Jax documentary would be cool. In my opinion he's one of the most iconic characters in League, almost as much as Ryze or Ahri.
"feels like a friend"
19:13 "Bramble vest"
Hashinshin: REEEEEEEEE
Best channel on youtube ! The way you speak, the content, the research everything is perfect keep going bro !!
I love this video! With my experience as a Gold Fiora main, she is easily one of the most fun and rewarding champion to play. She is easy to learn, and because of the high skill-cap she has, each game you play with her only makes you a better player! This video really helped motivate me, even more, to become better with her!
I remember when I played her in season 2, she was OP af.
*Fiora player since 2012, Explaining the Royal Guard Change and why it was actually really good*
The rework to the Royal Guard actually made it one of my favourite skins for her. Based on the Royal French Guard, the rework version has a much better usage of the Royal Blue that was used to identify these guards.
THEY FIXED HER HAT TOO! She used to look like a Pirate with the old hat, a symetrical flat and wide hat. New hat? Boom. The hat's bend on the left side allows her to downstrike with the wrist without cutting her hat in half. They also quite literally put a feather in her cap.
Some people may be upset that they removed the cleavage from the skin, but honestly it makes more sense to me to represent the esteemed duelist of House Laurent serving now as a Royal Guard with a more sophisticated and dignified look. Fiora doesn't care about drawing attention with looks, but with actions and it's a small change that helps push that message.
It also aligned the Splash Art and colour pallette to be more with the Three Musketeer Theme and when we finally recieve our third Musketeer we will have Fiora, Twisted Fate and some Mystery Champion as a Skin Trio which is a pretty cool idea tbh.
When compared to 750RP for Nightraven which while okay is just Fiora if the Art Direction was "more red, more black, more cleavage", the option for 520RP to get a Royal Guard with an actual Duelist's Cap is really special for some players.
i was gonna laugh at you for having an AI as a friend
but i remembered that i have no friends
good video btw👌
Yo this doubtfire should edit for you more! It’s so good
I love the research you spend on these man, as a Fiora main myself I am honestly so glad she got reworked so long ago. If she was still the same way, I would've hated her design so much.
Fiora is the bruiser that even bruiser players hate:
1. Good dueling/lane pressure due to buffs
2. Godly split pushing due to buffs
3. A stat check passive and ultimate
And still no nerfs because of her wr
-b... bu... bu... but she is difficult!
-surely. Well, it was eith old Conq with true damage, but still. 9 lvl, me Urgot and Fiora, she had vamp scept and tiamat, me had phage and bramble west. She missed parry, she rarely hit vitals aside some from her ult, and still just outright smashed me without too much health lost and destroying FOUR ZOGGING PLATES, while I respawn and went to line. She needs items? She needs skill?
REALLY?
emarythomp she won’t be nerfed late game because she cannot win the game. She’s a lane bully but late game she is horrendous. It’s a trade off
@@bobbygeorge9181, in this case it makes even less sense. What's the point of existance of this champ? Be annoying not only by kit, but also because the things you can counter her is kinda minor, like slow, reducing attack speed, reducing heal (dd, ravenous hydra and bloodthirster won't get it either). Saying it other way - all defensive items' cost efficiency would be sent to hell. But all this just for annoying your opponent SO hard that even Teemo got amazed.
Brilliant game design, just a holy hell toxic champ, who is just toxic, because all this stuff as a result anyway don't win games.
And while I thought there is nothing more genius than that, Vayne steps in... Having the only problem Fiora is so idiotic champ - true percent damage.
Fiora makes toplane a living hell for everyone, maybe except the mages.
Anyone else think adc’s are kinda broken or just me?
@@mohamedezubeik8892 Adcs broken top (i.e Lucian, Vayne)? Absolutely. But I don't think adcs when playing as actual adcs are that broken as a role. Maybe some individual champions like Kai'Sa. But I'm no expert either way🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@mohamedezubeik8892 ADCs do have some degree of counterplay, since most people who play ADC top don't respect their opponents
When you're so antisosial that you need an AI to replace your need for friends
I really enjoy these videos. I'm glad Gbay started this trend of League Documentaries because this really gives me a nostalgia trip. I can watch these with my girlfriend and give her my insight about living through all this. She just goes "wow that's fucking stupid" and I would just say "I KNOW I LIVED THROUGH IT".
Exil the legend. Cant tell you how happy I get when I see your video in my homepage.
Her passive is exactly what Riot says they want to avoid having, rng. If they can fix her passive I would find her much more enjoyable both to play and play against
Tryndamere says hi.
Gangplank level one all in with like 2% crit chance
her passive always has the same pattern tho.
Her passive is very predictable, you should do some research on it :)
I'm still waiting for the Ohmwrecker homage video.
In all seriousness though, absolutely well played in grinding these videos man much love!
Ooooh that would be a good one, and thank you!
When I read forgotten, I thought you would talk about Oorn
He is also forgotten and for sure will make the list at some point. He needs a video!
ornn is not at all forgotten
@@Exil22 i dont think so, hes currently one of the highest winrate toplaners right now
Rek'sai is for me one of the most forgotten champions. Flawless art and gameplay design but only 2 skins in 5 years and no one seems to play her.
@@Dusty-iv5tt In high elo she is a monster
yo this dudes videos are actually so fire, keep making them
Thank you for putting consistent effort into these and i enjoy having a meal while i watch them. I specifically remember re watching the riven and yasuo ones until more came out. For your next documentey i would love to see azir as he would be quite interesting. Cheers
*Who needs Voice Assistant*
when you have Exil
When your enemy is low health, try to kill them.
S3 player be like
Her R was like
"master yi, who is that?"
thanks for putting the music in the description!
The production quality of this is amazing
From a former Fiora main: old fiora was so fun and rewarding in top lane when you would win because you were usually overmatched at the champion level. I dont enjoy the new fiora at all :(
Thats what i as a new Fiora player like to call...
"The Yi Syndrome"
You don't like old fiora, You just like the braindead ult Fiora had
@@Dr_Weirdoo you're a potato she was a fun fencer.
@@kaisercreb so basically
The same Lunge
The Parry turned into an actually useful skill that requires timing
The E turned into an AS and crit instead of movespeed and AS
And the ult went from being Yi's Q to an actually useful ultimate
Na mate, You just liked to stack Tiamat and ult for easy penta
New fiora carried me up to d3 last season Compared to g1 and p3 on past seasons.
can we have a video about wukong? The Minion with a passive that gets outclassed by an item?
100% he needs a video, I know that he had some experimental changes in 2019 and they scrapped them, he has a super interesting story
@@Exil22 you could wait for the planned rework to come out... they already have his abilities ready, im kinda sure his rework is coming soon
"Tank ekko toplane"
Compared to some things I've seen, thats pretty tame.
I mean tank ekko was even meta for some time
I played old fiora for a bit when I was a noob at the game too. Now that I've had the new fio for 5 years I don't really miss it but I did remember thinking the old fio was kinda cool. She's still my go to carry top lane pick for all the reasons mentioned in the video
As a former Bruiser Fizz onetrick, I would love to see an essay about Fizz‘ history. He was so good as a midlaner in S3/4. I remember every pro game beeing Fizz vs Kassadin mid. Nowadays he is just a solo q pick and he got so many changes to his kit
The old Fiora was very pretty 😻
Pretty, pretty brutal
calm down son, its just a drawing
You got me crying. I miss the old fiora too much.
why?
why?
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz She was just special for me. I mean i started playing league in season 4 and i fell in love with fiora I got to silver with her and even if she was bad or good i was enjoying the gameplay. Its just not the same anymore.
@@shrixers7899 her gameplay update seems pretty on point to me...
well at least you didn't get aatrox'ed
As an old fiora main, I was really upset by the rework, and while she did never get competitive, but she was a VERY effective pub smasher. Even without Tiamat stacking, A single Tiamat was enough to decimate a teamfight in a corridor.
I used to main old Fiora 😭 I was a one trick Fiora player, she was so fun. I remember with the right runes and masteries I would cheese the top laner with 109 AD at lvl 2 with red pot, bonus W AD, and using the mastery that would give 5 AD after using ignite
I was around for fiora's release.
I can tell you on solo queue, she was insane. She ate everything.
But she was item dependant after early game, no one ignored tiamat, no one ignored bloodthirster.
then we had some adjustments and bug fixes and she felt odd.
after that, she kind of became a weaker riven - you just didnt want to face her because she felt tedious to face, and was tedious to play.
Exil: the forgotten champion, Fiora
Riot: guess we need to buff her again
Edit, this would be a joke-incase the top four comments didnt know
Please no...
Buff her again? Thats the height of stupidity
Lmao
Watch the vid to the end bruh
Pls not
The fact that the old fiora’s ult still gives me nightmares
KOKONUT I wanna meet the person who designed that mechanic 😂😂😂
Oh and let’s make hydra be able to proc with it too 💀
@@zelthehoopa good thing we're rid of tha---- oh wait, Master Yi exists.
Fizz and master yi, vladmirwere her prime counters.
Fio as a champ currently is an aggravatingly simple duelist masquerading as a champ with a high skill ceiling when in reality shes been buffed to the point where she has lost any discernible identity of her own.
A good Fiora is like Darius where if your a melee and pick into her, you kind of get dicked all lane and all you can hope for is being more useful than her in team fights.
@@ClassicBeatBox the difference is that Darius has actually clear weaknesess. Darius needs to be fed to be relevant in his team. If he is not, it is very easy to outscale him. Has no mobilite, you can play around his Q, and if he fails his E, you have a window of almost 25 seconds to punish him. And the most important part, you are not force to fight him.
In he other hand, Fiora has a passive that doesnt seem like it was designed to be in a PvP game giving her healing and free poke, harasment, and being lane bully. Lets not forget que if it hits que spot, she gets SM to back off and make it hard for you to punish her for engaing.
You dont know how to fight her and you want to play a safe laning phase? Surprise, you cant tank yourself because her poke also makes true demage, so you like it or not, you have to fight her and build health and ofensive. Also becareful with dying or going to base, because now 2 of her abilities helps her to take towers faster. Meanwhile, Shen players (yes, one of my mains) cant hit towers with their Qs.
Meanwhile, Fiora players can fill their ego while thinking about how pro they are for hitting a weakspot of the size of ¼ the the enemy's radius, making them stay back and not being able to farm just only because of she existing.
So she not only is a lane bully, but she also can snowball and has good scaling.
Sorry if you are a Fiora main and I offend you with the "ego" comment. I know not all players are like this, but I, and a lot other players really have stand a lot of cocky players, and a huge of they are Fiora mains jerking off over the thought of good duelists they are.
Of course, she can be beaten, but the case change a lot when you fight against an actually good Fiora player. And again, you can beat her, but that doesnt take away how unfun it is to play against her, and how horribly designed she is for League being a PvP game.
Whenever I watch any of these "forgotten" or "OP" champ videos... I start feeling old...
Having only really played from late beta to early S4, all these "forgotten" champs were constantly played when I played this game.
I love these types of videos. I’m still fairly new so learning about the history of some of these champs is amazing! Keep up the good work :)
Finally my girl got some love
I took Fiora to Diamond 1 in S3, I wish I could play her old version somehow. :(
Make one of every champ, i want Kog Maw the forgotten Adc. Top 5 least played champs, banrate. Absolut outdated compared to newer adc like kaisa xayah and aphelios.
Kogmaw...ad?
Where do u life? On moon!?
Apmaw was a thing not ad
@@ItsJustKaya you don't remember the good old days of machine gun kog?
5.0 attack speed with the broken rage blade and better on hit in general.
Funny how some group of people always say "I prefer old Fiora/I love old Fiora/I only play old Fiora and I want her back" but in reality, no one played her until she got a rework XD
Hey Exil, just a request/question here, but have you ever thought about doing a documentary on Yorick? From being voted the most unfun champion to play AND play against, to his rework going silent for several years, to his triumphant return and subsequent nerfs and his current mediocrity (he's not great, but he's not bad), I'd love to see you tell the story of my favorite champion.
No one forgot her, what are you on about, she's basically an autowin in lane
yeah wtf lmao forgotten? nah bro dominates every time shes picked.
she is stronger now
i take it you didn't finish the video?
EpilepticRabbit True!
@@Marssnowable i take it that you didn't rread the title of this video
For me Fiora Is perfect for now, riot should not touch her for a moment because she is actually balanced. Well now she just need a Legendary skin that it.
Your video was very nice keep it up :)
I remember, when i was still starting
When Kassadin is OP
She was the perfect Counter. As long player din't fed
Lol kassadin is a he, his daughter is even Kaisa.
he's saying fiora's the counter
@@liandry3315 lololol
@@Martin-yh7vi and even if kassadin was a girl having a daughter is not a trait only males can have lmao
Loving these vids! I've been playing for a few years, since Yorick's rework. So seeing the history I missed out on is really something, and I really enjoy it.
Here's a concept for a vid- You mention the whole thing about how pro play to single queue is vastly different, and that's true! And this applies to champs too. Some that are D tier in ranked are considered popular bans or picks in pro. And because of this, have had kits changed drastically to effect pro play, but crippling the champ in solo.
Who am I talking about? Tahm Kench. I love this guy dearly but he's been tough to use lately! And so many changes, history, and having one heck of a shake up in how often he's been picked in pro and ranked, ect. Think about it! :)
I'd love to see a video on tiamat. It's such an interesting item and has loads of cool interactions. One of my favorites being the Alistar bug where tiamat would cancel the w knockback so you could q for an even longer cc combo
when i hear bad desigh am laughing in aatrox that has no identity
aatrox main here. He has two a's in his name just cause th developers dont want you to forget about him
@@bater1762 I still play him just because of his look he is kinda strong and kinda weak he is both
If they would rework him or bring back his revive passive people would truly be picking him cause he can fight
@@paradoxwraith5275 no the revive passive is just shit tbh i think they just need to give him some more dmg and hell some armor or something cause he WILL be shit on by any ranged/tank or bruiser if they have seen an aatrox before
Draintanking?
@@bater1762 or just give him his stack dash back and some armor