DIALED S2-EP17: First time upgrading suspension? Start here | FOX
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2020
- After receiving his new suspension upgrade, Jake talks with Jordi to walk through the initial installation and setup of his new Fox 38 and Float X2.
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I lost it when the rubber mallet head flew off haha
"my screwdriver is not long enough" - 1min later - uses longest screwdriver imaginable to take crown race off 😂
😂😂🤷♂️
That screwdriver tip was great though, never knew about that and makes a fork oil change so much easier.
@@tarekith I like using a big hex key 10mm works pretty well for me
I like how Jordi's pretty chill through the process..while Jake looks like he's gonna hurt himself or break something! 🤣..well it's a success and it's looking sweet! 🤙
Not my bike...I had nothing to worry about!
Hurting myself and breaking stuff sums up my entire mountain biking experience. 😂
I am really enjoying this series. Great content!
Cheers! thanks for sharing and thank you for watching 👊
That shock is more expensive than my bike lol
Only took a lockdown and cancelled world cups to get Jake a set of fox suspension
Jake youre killing it! You'er literally making an all time series out of nearly nothing haha! Love the vids guys.
We can second this comment, keep up the great work Jake! 👊
Nice series, it's nice to see videos of a rookie (sorry Jake) doing all the stuff, it's a good example and it's the most people cases! Good work guys!
Super glad to hear it, thanks!! And no worries, I fully embrace my rookie-ness 😂🤘
We can't all be Jordi, glad you're enjoying the series, thanks for watching! 👊
This video was definitely helpful as I am looking to build a new enduro bike. Jordi is incredible. Everytime I see a video of his, I try to soak up everything I can
that intro 👌😍
Great programme👍...I was taking a note all the Jordi's points📝👌.
Jake you are so dangerous💥 for the mallet and screw driver too😃...well we learn and you assemble the new toys, good deal!
Thanks guys for another great🕑 time👍
Haha, thanks for sharing and watching! 👊
Thanks for the continued vids...
Awesome video. Fox Rules!
i'm realling digging this videos
Love it!! ✌🏼🍻
That was a great episode. Those 38’s look amazing. I’m going to get a pair for my eeb. Everyone needs a Jordi in there life 😂. I can imagine the advice is sagely no matter what the subject 😆
👍 Nice guys 👍
Thanks for posting this, it was helpful. Even though I'm riding a 20 year old Rocky Mountain 26er with a bottom of the line fox float in the rear and a rockshox duke fork lol. I'm in desperate need of an entire bike upgrade haha.. ✌
As I sit here with a brand new X2 and 36..... like wtf. This was helpful, thanks!
and they are upgrading the Rockshox!
You need backyard takeover Jordi! Great vids.
Cheers from PERU!
Cheers Peru! 👊
I was scrolling through and then saw the moving thumbnail and was like “wait... that’s Jake Frew!” Then I knew I had to watch it😂
What's up Ethan! Thanks man!! 😂😂🙏
🗣️ yea good gia a the guy #ridefox Jake the of the #foxdialed .Master Jordi Cortés the first time upgrading Supension #dialed start here. Saluds from chile 🇨🇱 thanks guy's 🗣️sicke
Cheers Cristobal & Thank you for watching 👊
Loved watching it. So much details and making easy for users to learn from it. Yay! But i have a question: can someone put a fox 38 ( for 29er) on a 27.5 frame? If yes, What changes? Pls pls let me know!
Legend has it everytime Jordi sees a rockshox fork he grows another gray hair
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I just upgraded my suspension, too. And by "upgraded", I mean "checked the air pressure".
Haha that's what I like to hear!!
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Hey guys, I’m trying to upgrade my suspension as well with pretty much the same exact thing 230x60mm Float X2 and 170mm 38 (just a 29” fork) and I’m wondering if you had an idea as to if the pistachio colorway is going to be available again? It seems that most places are out of stock already, and from my understanding it’s a limited run, so they’re probably gone. Any hope of Fox making more “limited runs”? 😬
Young people are not mechanically inclined these days so good to see him doing this
from a dino chart I have seen on the new 38 , the high speed compresion dial doesnt do much .. It has like 25% adjustment against the old grop2 damper.
Can you do a set up for xc bikes now that xc is becoming a little gnarlier and full suspension is almost the norm? It would be interesting to see through Jordi's experience with the WC XC athletes how a suspension setting leaning more towards pedaling efficiency is like
Pls ask jordi where can mortals get tools to take apart clean and assamble again the fox float X2. As Im used to service my suspension on my own.
what i would wish for is a series on the shim stack tuning. when in bought my bike it came with a light tuning. after having massive bottom out problems even with full spacers and hsc set to a point which is a big no no i went to the fox support an after a few talks it turned out the manufacturer of my bike did a custom light shim stack tuning. send my shock in. they reshimed it to medium and now everything is fine. honestly a light tuning should only be allowed if a customer wishes for it. this issue did cost me a lot of nerves and nearly lost my hope into fox products
when is say massive bottom out problem i'm talking about a x2 230x60 300 psi 5 spacer and hsc 3 clicks from fully closed problem. wrong shim stack tuning as wished from the bike manufacturers. so no fox problem itself but would be worth a video how this can affect the overall performance
What bike stand is that? It looks pretty solid and isn’t flopping around.
I just used a cut off wheel on my 38s
Really enjoyed the video 👍 Can you do a review on the new fox transfer 2021 w/ updated lever, please?
You ask Fox to do a review on their dropper post? I think I can guess what the outcome of that "review" will be. ☆☆☆☆☆
I guess it’s not really our thing to do reviews. I’d rather make content that applies to doing things for yourself
Can’t wait to get my pistachio fox 38 just hope there is no hold-up in shipping from the US the UK as they are only coming over in batches of 10 ☹️
We can't wait for you to get it too! enjoy the new fork!
Why would you use a file? no curb around?
Great video as always love the series.
😂😂 hahaha, oh man, well played. Thanks Brandon 🤙
Ah yes. The Sam Pilgrim school of bicycle mechanic-ing
This question is for Jordi, will the Fox 38 fix the issue with creaky stansions in the CSU. It's amasing to me that both Fox and Rockshox have such a weak construction of their forks. I have a friend that has replaced the whole upper part of the fork including the steertube, CSU and stantions 4 times on his Fox 36. I've done the same thing twice on my Rockshox Yari.
We are both big guys at around 100kg and we ride enduro/bike park and we need a fork that can take a punch!!
Is the Fox 38 the answer to our prayers?
what about buying an off the shelf float x2 when my frame has a custom tune with their fox specced bike. how can I source the same custom tune?
I bought new coil for my meta am and i need 20x10 hardware to mount it. Do i need to buy new bushings and how to install it do i need to give it to a bike mechanic?
Nice video! Awesome swap! By the way when setting up rebound, which one first? The high speed or the low speed? Maybe it doesn't matter? Thanks for your answer ✌
I’d probably go low first but it’ll be a fair bit of back and forth to get it right
@@jordicortes4993 thanks!
Cheers Tom, and thanks for watching! 👊
Jordi @Jordi Cortes, setup question. How do you recommend changing your susp. settings for a trail with steep rocky chutes? I have tried decreasing my sag in the fork and increasing lowspeed damping in the fork. My goal is to have more support so my front wheel is less likely to dive or get caught in a hole. Am I on the right track? Any further recommendations to increase confidence in this situation. Thanks!!
Follow the process. We’re not here to tell you what settings to run, were here to teach you how to do it yourself!
@@jordicortes4993 yes, that's why I'm looking for a general big picture answer. I thought you would enjoy a question that is different than how do you set your initial sag :)
How much will upgrading from 170mm to a 180mm fork affect handling of my bike?
Is that a Tallboy?? The manual on my wife's said it's not compatible with a coil shock, but apparently it is!!
There’s a bike check on that you know?
Is it the same procedure if you want to set on a new complete bike?
Essentially, yes
Hey guys, sorry for being late to the Dialed party, I'm currently binge watching all episodes from the beginning. You now have a Fox customer for life!
What's the best way to determine steerer tube length when you don't have a previous fork to measure against and/or the geometry is different than your previous bike? Cheers and thank you for all the effort you put into this series!!
After such a quick and detailed answer from Fox I guess you're not a life-time customer anymore?.. ))
@ka81alex Said the guy a year late to the comment. 🤣🙄
My local shop charges ~$550 CAD parts/labour for fork + shock + seat post rebuilds. Fox recommends this be done once a year at the least. I have 2 bikes so this adds up quickly to ~$1000+/year on suspension service.
Question:
Does a full rebuild need to be done yearly, if not how can I tell when I need a full rebuild?
I'm going to start servicing the fork myself but shock/seat post look intimidating. Any other tips or suggestions to save cash?
Thanks Jordi and Dialed! You own!
If you ride regularly than once a year for a complete rebuild. And the small services like lower leg service for the fork and an air can service for the shock maybe every 2/3 months. But it depends on the weather conditions and how often you ride a bike. If you ride it every day for 6 hours than you should be fine with the service times i mentioned above, but if you ride it less often let's say maybe 3 times a week, than you can do small services every 4 months. But those numbers are just suggestions. Cheers from Croatia
@@dominikgrbac1764 Thanks for the suggestion! I guess performance and time are the key. I'm going to try learn as much as I can but fuck do those damper/spring rebuilds look tedious! Also need to budget all the tools I lack :(
If you don't have the tolls for the rebuilds, try to get your hands on the essential tools for the small services as I mentioned before. Also nowadays the Internet is full of information about suspension service and rebuild tutorials. Start of slow and steady. Don't get stressed out on it. Go with the flow😅🤟
@@dominikgrbac1764 Hahah true and at least FOX has sick rebuild guides like this: www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=947
Does the standard star nut fit in the new oval steerer?
Yup
Hi,
I have enquiries regarding the 2021 Fox 36 Grip2 29" Oil Volume. I'll be converting the 160mm travel 29" fork to 140mm travel with Fox Racing 36mm EVOL Air Shaft assembly 2021.
Oil volume for 160mm travel is 40cc Fox Racing Shox Suspension Oil 5WT PTFE on the damper side and 10cc Fox Racing Shox Suspension Oil 20wt Gold on the air side.
How about shorter travel 140mm? Are the oil volumes the same?
I have a 2019 Performance 34 Float with a Grip, 3-position damper and would like to know if I could upgrade the damper to the new 2021 Grip2 for the 34 ?
Yup
Thanks Jordi. It's good that you guys empower the do it yourself riders out there. This will create a lot of brand loyal customers 😁
Meanwhile I'm waiting for my new 36 and DPX2 shock. 🥺
Nice, hope it shows up soon for ya👊
If they did them in 1 1/8 straight steerer I would consider them
If you only knew how I inserted the starnut on my fork last week...🤫
😬🙉
is that fork white or phistacho
Is homie chilling Santa Cruz giving the guy the low down? Shit
Jordy still seems a bit annoyed from Loris :D
Video title should be How to change rockshox to Fox.
Wow genius
What is Jake's height and weight? Would be good to know.
It seems a bit odd that Jake had a set a Rockshox on his bike beforehand, when he works with Fox. Just an observation, seems strange?
Why?
@@jordicortes4993 fake jordi
Oliver Hallam incorrect
Are those white 38's???
Pistachio! along with "rootbeer" for the 36 and "battle ship grey" for the 40 are the limited edition colors for the new forks. 👊
make more pistachio 38s
Good morning sir arbor na lang old suspension fork
He sounds like jack black not gona lie
I need a FOX40 but i don't have money😶
poor old jordy
people in the future will be so confused why they are not meeting in person
New 36 and 38 looks like fucking RST
Yah just buy the 2021 fox set up and go I debt 30 grand
In debt
Maybe if you guys didn’t over the price the shit out of these parts I could upgrade but nooooo
yo can i have your old fork pls
Hope fork works better than looks. New look is bad👎🏻
Hey thanks, such a helpful comment.
@@jordicortes4993 yeah, my MAGURA Boltron looks 10 times better. Unfortunately magura looks better than works🤣
How the fvk he became a rad mtb rider without knowing these things???
toop zezoca
time to sell my car
Firs time upgrading suspension? Congratulations on selling your house
He is getting on and off the bike like a girl .... Man, what are you doing ?
So many RUclipsrs have a problems with GoPro. Thanks god I didn't buy this shit camera
looks unprofesh seeing other cameras/cam-men
Nice name. Rockshox