KINGDOM OF THE PLANET OF THE APES | Film Threat Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- Chris Gore and Alan Ng review “Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes,” now playing in theaters.
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Wake me up when the girl boss-key to everything era is over. Until then, I'll watch re-runs
Same boat.
Not a girl boss.
Did you guys not see the trailer?
Ape 1:"Why are they hunting her?"
Ape 2:"Because she's important"
😂
Haha, that was me too. Looks like girl is the key to everything. I'm out.
@ifninomiko3883 same here. This movie looked so generic. I'll stop at Dawn of the Planet of the apes. That was a good movie, and good stopping place
@@ifninomiko3883If you consider her being able to get into a vault as being the key to everything then you’re right.
@joshg7136 I wasn't inclined to see this movie anyway, but the trailer drove the last nail into the coffin. Nothing Film Threat has said about the movie motivates me to spend money or time on it.
@@ifninomiko3883 Yeah, but I just completely disagree with the “she was a girl boss” narrative, or that she was the key to everything. She was a somewhat competent female character, but she did have flaws and limitations. In my opinion, she was actually a rare case of a female character done right.
She's the actual villain of the film. I feel like the movie suggested that.
After watching it this weekend, I also got that. After all that they went through to beat proximus, her actions at the end of the film made me really dislike her character.
@@GATX370 i hated her character & She ruined this movie
@@Choppacity80491she really did like omg it was so bad
Tropes that I am extremely tired of in today's movies.
1) Protagonists only have daughters or they'll have a son and a daughter but the daughter always overshadows the Son.
2) Girl bosses
3) Female characters that are there solely there to explain leftist exposition, like anything with an ism or phobia.
4) Action movies about guys getting revenge for their mommy's death.
5) forced diversity
6) Female superiority masquerading as inclusion.
7) The MCU comedy style being in almost every movie.
Pretty much anything and everything created for left-wing weirdos...
Every movie now. Like the plague. And it's our fault, remember that. LOL women don't know how to market shit to men. Just try to guilt them.
You know what would be a great subversive of expectations? The movie has all the same girlboss tropes you mentioned, but after like five minutes the movie focuses on her brother who is living in her shadow and always has to put up with her toxic, entitled attitude, but eventually he perseveres and succeeds at something she can't, which both humbles her and finally gets her to respect him.
Agreed. Sadly this is in 90% of every production today.
I've resorted to watching/re-watching older movies for that very reason.
Left wing weirdos are creating this crap im withi you man
Here here!
I noticed we have turned a corner in cinema - where every movie is now lead by a woman. Mad Max and Star Wars both passed the mantle from a man to a woman. Every leading role is now a female character.
Nova/Mae is not a leading character, she is rather a twist villain.
Which wouldn’t be so bad, if they weren't written like Mary Sues, or cardboard cutouts of feminist stock complaints, or self-inserts for Kotaku journalists.
@@Mouse_Metali was actually siding with Mae. Humans deserve to reclaim the dominance
I'm ready for some 80s90s male action hero films with female nudity!
But people loved Fury Road and even 10 years ago I recognized that it went from Mad Max led to Furiosa’s story. Nobody said shit. For 10 years people have been talking about how great the movie is.
What changed?
Good point: in the original Planet of the Apes, astronaut Taylor should have wondered why the apes spoke English. We learn at the end of the movie why... it's one of the most amazing -- and jaw-dropping -- movie endings.
I really liked the movie….UNTIL “Ciri” started doing the usual “Girlboss” tropes. (Knows everything, doesn’t apologise for anything, is entitled to everything etc). If this movie is set 300 YEARS after last one but acts like she’s come from Los Angeles 2024?.
Honestly by today's standards, I thought it was mild girl boss. However, I have a bad feeling about the trilogy going forward. I have a feeling it's going to get "more woke" in the next movie and the only "strong males" going forward will be apes. The ending had a lot of "modern audience" diversity. Which seemed weird because when we saw the "echo herd" they were all white-like people.
She is rather a scheming villain than a grrrlboss actually. She is a human equivalent of the ape villain Proximus. Both of them want their species to dominate and cage/wipe out the other species.
LA totally. Real girls like this would be totally moved to the back of the room in dire situations. Nobody would listen to them. But then again they are supposed to be special for being marginalized. It's their behavior that turns people off. LA women don't realize this because it's all fantasy. Even their daily lives, not just movie roles.
@@Mouse_Metal But lets be honest. She was a female actor playing a male part. Which is common today.
Women and bears?
Try women and apes....
Audiences are sick TO DEATH of woke girlboss crap. To the point now that even if the movie dosen't really have any of that nobody trusts them. Barbie was a perfect example. They took a beloved iconic toy for girls, marketed the movie as such, then when asses were in seats preached for 2 hours a bunch of man hating feminist woke girlboss crap! Fine. You made a shitload of money but at the cost of nobody trusts ANY movie now.
Barbie is the only woke movie that made money since Get Out popularized the genre.
I disagree with it being marketed like that though, yes it wasn’t marketed as being as woke as the movie ended up being, but they made it pretty clear with the adult humor and the 2001 space odyssey reference in the trailers that the movie wasn’t intended for little kids who play with Barbies
It was a freaking satire, and a damn good one.
I think it was well liked, unfortunately, so the wrong lessons were learned. At least the actresses didn’t win awards, like for that victim’s diatribe about how brutal it is to be female. That sounded like modern audience Oscar bait to me!
@@joshuacalkins yea, my issue was that they hijacked a toy that had absolutely nothing to do with girl boss misandry. They knew if it was just a satire and was advertised for what it is it would have flopped. So they used Barbie as the vehicle and marketed it as a girly satire movie about Barbie. Most people who went to see it only saw it was about Barbie and had no idea. So allot of people dont trust anything about movies now. No matter how much the trailers look like its woke free audiences think, and rightfully so, I know it's in there, and refuse to spend their money. Going to the movies is insanely expensive and there are tons of options with streaming, RUclips ect. for very cheap.
I thought Mae was the villain in the movie. She tries to kill all the apes when she detonated the bomb. She wants things how it used to be.
Its just like in Dawn, where the humans and the Apes have similar goals and issues. Like how they both had a character that was prejudiced causing problems, but both groups just wanted to survive. In this one, both groups wanted power to ensure they stay at the top of the food chain. Just one of them was more honest about it to the others. Mae was just like Proximus, and Noah was just like Willian H Macy's character (forgot the character's name, but he was the only other human there) as a simpathizer to the other side, willing to work with them for their own sake (ok, not as clear a parallel but you get what I mean).
I'm so over girlbosses and women knowing everything/lecturing men in general.
You obviously didn’t watch the movie, so your statement doesn’t apply here.
Admiral Genderstudies in the Last Jedi was soooo repulsive for the heterosexual male and female humans.
Chris Gore's beard for the win!
Underated comment
The lead actress is Ciri from The Witcher - “the girl who is the key to everything”. She is doing the same role in a different IP. But in movie form. That’s stunning and brave ? Guess it was her only chance to do a film.
I'm so pleased to see Chris back at full power!
He is fully armed and operational.
It's "Taylor," not "Tyler." The original Planet of the Apes, with Charlton Heston, was one of my most favorite movies from my childhood.
Yea, I just hard pass on basically all movies now a days unless they seem truly exceptional.
Chosen one girl bosses are just cancer in my brain.
For me, being 'the key to everything' means the writers could not construct a layered character. What happened to characters simply overcoming obstacles important for their growth?
Did you watch the film?
She isn't "the key to everything" though. Not in the traditional way at least. She could have been anyone. The only reason its her is because all the other Immune humans sent to the vault to recover something were killed off with her escaping as the last one. In the end she isn't even let back into the human settlement because its a quarantine zone, so she was left on her own.
Stuff like this is what scares me about Deadpool vs. Wolverine. Anybody wanna bet the movie ends with X-23/Girlverine saving Wade and Logans asses because she's just that damn good?
Welcome back Chris! You are jamming that unshaved look and sound great! :)
my favorite part was when she finds the statue of liberty at the end and then declares "this is what happens when men are left in charge. and dr zaius say "she is perfect". so powerful and so brave.
Dude, please tell me that doesn't really happen. I haven't seen it. Is your comment a satirical one?
@@jimcol4986yeah thats not even remotely what happened in the movie. My man is just trolling.
i'm an old school Ape Man too. Naturally, first was best. But I'm particularly fond of the fourth one, where the Apes rebel.
Conquest is my favorite as well, especially the unrated cut.
Did anyone notice that at the end of movie, most of the humans that were intelligent were female?
Lets do an all girl boss movie!
How does it end because they all are perfect apparently?
it ends with them doing a sit down interview of each other where they gush over how great each of them is
Charlie's Angels, it's been done.
I was suspicious she would be a girl boss/key to everything character. That would kill the movie for me. The give away was the fact she was the only human in the trailers wearing pants and shoes.
That’s actually untrue. There’s another human in this film wearing pants and shoes.
@TrekBeatTK I just said from the trailer. That's all I saw. I just found it odd. Still going to watch this movie
Have not seen the movie, but apparently, there is a hidden conclave of humans who have "advanced" along side the apes, but in secret. She is kind of an advance scout to find out exactly what the apes are up to. Most of human kind devolved, thanks to the simian flu, but this conclave is either immune, or simply avoided getting infected. So there could be thousands of intelligent humans, or mearly a few hundred. Considering the success of this movie, I think we will find out in the sequal.
@@wimpymcsteel4458 She is seemingly immune, but clearly isn't allowed into the settlement in the end specifically because its a quarantine zone for humans. So she kind of gets a raw deal, considering all of the other immune people she lived with died so she is left alone.
@@johnnymedrano7081 I think they misrepresented the character a bit. She isn't really the key to everything outside of circumstances that could have made it anyone else. She was sent with a group of Immune people to the vault, but they were all killed by the villain Ape while she managed to escape (this is never shown, only explained through several moments). So everyone in that group was aware of the mission and any one of them could have been the key. So its not because she is a girlboss, at least in-universe. She is also shown to be in a bad state if it weren't for the mercy of the main character Ape helping her, which leads into her ending up back at the vault with him. the only real girlboss moment was her getting the jump on a decrepit old man, which isn't too ridiculous, so its up to you if that's too much. Also she is sort of a villain in a way, so she isn't perfect either. So I think she's a character that could be anyone and it would fit, it just so happens to be a girl.
Welcome back, Chris! Prayers continue.
Easy pass on this movie
I am so happy to see Chris back, he looks and sounds great!
Heart breaking to hear this movie went down this road.
I had the same experience as Alan back in 1985. Sat through the late showing of Police Academy 2, pretended I was invisible, stayed for the midnight premiere of Ladyhawke. I think mine had a better pay off.
they apparently outlawed decent white men in movies
Antiwhiteism and its underling antimaleism is horrible and immoral. Time to go free and work with love, hope and redemption for the wellbeing of westernkind.
We are a threat to the agenda.
Oh yeah like Deadpool and Wolverine. No decent white men jn that either right? Y’all just say whatever
@@alexlazzerly3677 As if Disney WANTED to make a Deadpool 3 movie and as if Deadpool 3 isn't popular BECAUSE is expected to reverse the common trend nowadays. Oh and Deadpool and Wolverine would be really offended if you called them decent
@@hectoraccented5312 The general public and most normal people don't watch movies because of the color of people's skin and their genders. Deadpool 3 is popular because it's Wolverine and Deadpool.
Female lead? In today’s Hollywood? Hard pass. Beyond done with the woke man hating girl boss nonsense.
I get that.
I can´t stand the grrrl boss trope but I don´t think she is one. She´s more like a twist villain.
I just avoid any movie made after 2015 to avoid girlbosses since it's like 99.9% of them.
@@Mouse_Metal so another girlboss then.
@@b-zoneonroku2020 She is not supposed to be a virtuous her-o and there is an explanation for her knowledge, so no.
I thought this was the girl from the new mad Max movie. . .
So they've evolved from angry college girl boss to been run through the wringer girl boss
How is she a girl boss?
@@joshg7136 it's a general term that refers to Mary Sue type of characters, meaning she's a Supergirl but she hasn't earned her powers, and even worse uses her position then to boss other characters around.
We've seen these insufferable characters replicating through films over the last decade, we're not only are they the greatest, somehow they lack any sense of humility or stoicism that usually accompanies great cinematic heroes, instead also placing themselves at the top of whatever social hierarchy exist between the characters. This of course renders the other characters into a meaningless position rather NPCs, and devalues the overall story as well.
@@destinypirate How is she a girl boss trope though if she also was a damsel in distress on multiple occasions? Personally, I thought she was a very believable character. She was capable survivor in a post-apocalyptic world, but she also had flaws and limitations that grounded her to reality. I agree that there has been an influx of bad cases of girl bosses recently that have ruined movies. I just don't agree with Mae being a good example of that.
On certain angles Chris looks like Alec Baldwin 😂
Yes, he does😂 legion of memers. Let's go
Don't compare Gore to that asshat 😂😂.
That's what I was thinking lol
I saw the girl on the poster in the very front. And the trailer and I knew. Then said no thanks, instant turnoff. You did it to yourselves Hollywood.
Its really not that bad for this movie, she is more of a twist villain, playing on the preconcieved notions about her because she is a girl. Also she was part of a bigger group that was killed off, so it being just her is a circumstance that nearly gets her killed if it wasn't for the main character helping her. So she isn't really a girlboss or perfect. So its up to you if you want to give it a chance, but I don't think it was that bad.
A tale of NG the Merciless Bond-esque adventure sneaking in a movie showing & the return of Chris Gore was the high light of this video. Once I saw the Mae character in the commercials of the Planet of the Apes movie, I knew it wasn't for me & the review kind of helped solidifying my stance. I'll stick with my movie collection to get my Ape fix.
So great to see you back Chris!! Alan did great work but your voice was sorely missed.
Love to see Chris back!
It immediately starts with a funeral for Ceasar (not at all looking as old as he did in "War") with flowers and a pyre, in a cultural type of style the apes never would have had yet. I said, "Ok, this movie is already off on the wrong foot."
Note: The young actress playing Nova is the same actress from The Witcher. Lots of physical training for that and with this being a physical role, perhaps that was a big plus in casting?
She basically plays the same character
So happy to have you back in good health Chris.
What Wes Ball did with this movie astounded me! Continuing the story of Caesar by exploring his legacy as an almost religious figure was brilliant. On top of that the VFX were immaculate and the performances just as impressive. An epic return to this world that has me wanting a lot more!
Same here, don't know why everyone is saying this was a girl boss movie. She needed Noah's help during most of it and Noah's arc (no pun intended) elevated his character, not the other way around. Will definitely watch again.
@@ocgiggin Not to mention the reason for her importance is clear and doesn't set her up to be a girlboss. The reason she was sent out to the vault is because she is immune to the virus (she wasn't even let into the Human settlement in the end because they were a quarantine zone), she was also sent out with many other humans, but when they got there Proximus killed them all with just her escaping. Her escaping and discovering Noah is what lead Proximus to Noah's village. This isn't directly told to the viewer but is clearly laid out, Its simply explained to you out of order. So she could have been anyone.
@@GBDupreeWhat Hollywood has done - has consequences. That they are going to have to work hard to regain trust is totally fine. They can suffer. They made this environment. When they put it in everything - we see it in anything. They dont get to undo it for free. Trust is lost
Alan and Robert Meyer Burnett make a great team
Studios took massive losses within the last 8-9 months. Wonder if there will be a Hollywood left come November or December?
Hollywood studios are doing a sneaky thing- They're re-releasing old movies in theaters...to get people in seats, to make their portfolio look good, to make money w/o spending anything.
Splendid Video. Linda Harrison played the most iconic Nova ever.
Glad seeing you doing fine, Chris!!
Chris is a 'Serial Apist'!
I agree with their assessment. The end left me thinking, "oh great, more of the same."
They should just call the next one "Battle(s) for the Planet of the Apes" [wouldn't _that_ be original!?]
Although the visual and audio callbacks to the 1968 film were kinda cool.
I'm an apist too....ever since they started doing these CGI monstrosities I can't tell barely any of the apes apart....Ceasar was the only one who stood out and i found those movies boring....I got so sick of CGI fest movies very early on, i don;t mind CGI helping the movie or a CGI character but when the whole movie is like sky captain it's boring....I fell asleep halfway into sky captain, tried watching it from where i remember last and had no clue what was going on....bad bad bad movie....and they keep making crap like that
i hate the new trend of color grading too.....
wake me up when the movie biz starts making real movies again.....
@judgedrekk2981
The first one I thought was an interesting reboot, I can't even remember anything about the 2 sequels, it all seemed the same.
as much as Tim Burton's Ape's has its problems and deserved mockery, it at least had the tone mostly of an old classic Planet of the Apes series film. I just don't care for anything in this modern reboot. I'd rather have humans in ape suits and the tone of the original series.
Good to see Chris back
Welcome Back Frank! We missed you buddy.
The craziest thing about this is how good the visuals are for the budget vs the disney movies its half the price of them
When did lee marvin from paint your wagon get on film threat?
what a surprise from Disney !
Hail to Chris Gore ! Good to have you back buddy ! We all missed you !! Good to hear your takes on movies always.
I didn’t know there was an Apes animated tv show. Love the series but thought this movie was just unnecessary.
Pretend I'm invisible 🤣🤣💯👍 that's funny done the same. I love the Original Ape films 2nd is ropey
This Gurlbozz is gonna be the Key to Unite the Human & Ape Clans together.
My favorite part of this video was Chris saying “she is part of something bigger” followed by “again, no spoilers”. Saying “she is part of something bigger” is a spoiler!
I guess at least Freya Allan has the bodytype of a woman who has been starving in the post apocalypse for a while
Heston's name in the original was Taylor, not Tyler. They say his name like, fifty fucking times in that movie.
Sounds like this film is getting us ready for a Mary-Sue-athon in the upcoming sequels! I hope not, but knowing where Hollywood is today, it wouldn't surprise me.
FRANK GORE IS BACK! HUZZAH!
When Chris said the trilogy movies were just “entertaining” and nothing more, I almost cried. Those movies were so freaking good and with good stories! I’m not sure why those movies are so underrated and it hurts that some people just view them as “meh.” Were we watching the same movies?! Also, you look so damn good in a beard. I’m not sure why you ever cut it off. The silver hair and beard fits you so well that I’ve suddenly become attracted to you. Like, WTF?
How long before hollywood stops beating **this** trope to death?
Will we find out that noa distant direct descendants from Caesar in future sequels because he lookalike Caesar and does noa have Caesar birthmark?maybe noa was adopted so maybe he was from raka clan?
I haven't seen this movie yet, but from everything I heard in the reviews so far this sounds like it would lead to the events of the original movie. Am I wrong?
Its heavily implied at the end the human settlement makes contact with the astronaut in the original (it could be just another settlement, but they show a picture of a astronaut right after with the apes using a telescope so that seems heavily implied). But its strange that the world doesn't quite feel like its at that point yet (the apes aren't wearing human like clothes yet for example, as well as there being some intellegent humans left). So maybe one more movie to set it up, OR they are going to do something slightly different for a remake?
Just watched ladynight. It was really good and I was pleasantly surprised. I hope it does well because this new story is definitely worth exploring. I definitely recommend...
13:52 isn't that because they only take on as many projects as they can handle and don't rush their artists which is why it looks so good in the first place
Please tell me that the next movie is where they discover an underground community of mutants who worship a nuclear warhead, which explodes bringing an end to this franchise.
Basically every film from the franchise in the recent years has been great. But you clearly didn’t watch any of them so you don’t know shit.
Well, maybe not mutants, but the quarantine zone shown at the end may have a warhead hidden in there. lol
same planet , just in the future
Welcome back Frank, go FNT!!!!!!!!
Hail Chris, Alan and Film Threat!!!!!!!
They should have CG in Charlton Heston.
Freya Allen said she sides with the Apes. Because, you know, the movies are real... *rolls eyes*
That was my biggest complaint is it felt long-- followed up by I did sorta miss a Taylor character arriving in a crash landing. Open to see where this goes thought.
Thank you Alan and Chris! I really appreciate you watching these movies so I don't have to. I will not pay to see a movie you give 6.5/10. It's just not worth my time and money. And I agree, why do these movies have to be 2-3 hours long? CUT!📢🎬
WILL DO
Nice beard bro
Did Chris Gore accidently kill Santa Claus?
Good seeing Chris gore, hope you're doing well. Now Get your arse back on fnt 😆
This video and the comments are acknowledging what I’ve been thinking in regards to Mae: once she spoke and gave her backstory, I got very concerned. I did like how she and Noa worked together. Though I’m getting concerned about the sequel: the director has confirmed that Mae will be back.
If Mae is back - I'm out.
What concerned you about it? It clear she was sent with a group of people because they were the only immune ones, if that helps explains anything.
I would like to bring Mark Walberg in this franchise. Not as the Tim Burton character Planet of the Apes character, but as the M. night Shayalamen “Happening” character. 😅
eagle eggs...your crasy!
All the apes needed to wear the original uniforms from the original planet of the apes series!
I lost the girl's respect when she endangered the apes in the climax.
She actually tried to kill them. She didn't want them to find the human stuff. Then in the end she was ready to shoot the good ape noa.
@@rayvonvelez3129 She is a twist villain. She wanted to annihilate the apes to keep humans the dominant species, just like the ape villain Caesar Proximus wanted to keep the apes the dominant species.
You were supposed to lose respect for her. She is a human equivalent of Proximus Ceasar.
I'm sure WETA has more work than they can handle. ILM is definitely not the industry leader that they used to be. I still have the first 2 ILM hardcover books, just revolutionary in special effects. re: runtime, does it seem like movies don't have as many deleted scenes anymore? Because they aren't editing the movies down, they're putting it all in, hence the longer runtimes.
Yes... I'm also over Vagsplaining.
Booked my advance screening for Furiosa on IMAX .... can't wait...
Cris, you look good
chill on why everyone knows the same language, we the audience need to know what their saying.
the very first one from Charles Heston's time is still the best and the mask thing wasn't stupid, it's what they had at the time!
the story is basic and what we seen many times at the movies, the effect was amazing, the girl did seems too fine tuned and it showed why at the end of the movie. the human stuff in the storage area did seemed to be in too perfect condition after two centuries.
there could be a sign that the orangutan and the evil ape might still be in for the next movie.
She's no Linda Harrison that's for sure.
I actually was on her side. Humans deserve to reclaim the dominance on the planet
I'm gonna end it at Dawn of the Planet of the apes. I think that was a good one. They're really dragging this out way too long
I feel like the story was wrapped up perfectly with War Of The Planet Of The Apes. I have no enthusiasm to watch this.
It was disappointing. I loved the Caesar trilogy, but won't be coming back for two more rounds of... this.
I enjoyed the ape aspects of the movie but the human elements were a complete distraction. This movie could have worked without the humans, though I’m not sure what they would have done for a sequel.
Bro these comments are so toxic, I mean Freya wasn't that bad (she wasn't a captain marvel type boss babe) and why ya'll ignore all the effort these folks have put into the super polished CG... It looked stunning thru the whole movie... It's a spectacle... Please people appreciate the good things too ;)
Also remember that the past few years most CG was rushed in the movies. For me this was a breath of fresh air to see something so gorgeous.
I stopped reading your comment at "toxic".
Mae is no Nova...
I was hoping the astronauts would be in this one. If they're not in the next film and the end doesn't set that up, then I'll just keep losing interest in this franchise.
When does Chris Gore come back???
He’s home ❤
@@Doggieworld3Show Who?? no beard
@@Doggieworld3Show ♥♥
I'm the first person to hate woke and I'm quick to catch it in movies. Honestly to me the only "woke" moments happened in the last scene. I was thoroughly entertained and enjoyed the movie a lot. Everyone needs to stop being so sensitive.
meme : see the poster then added br**zer brand
Remember the old star? Sex assault guy?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
I haven't seen it.
I don't like that she's called Nova.
It's too big a coincidence.
She is referred to as Nova because the Orangutang is following the tradition of naming humans that, but then she reveals her name is May. So Nova is just the name some Apes use for humans because of the legend of Caesar includes him befriending a girl he named Nova.
@@GBDupreeso there's also a Nova in the other prequels?
I had been referring to the original Planet of the Apes.
Girlboss is present but she doesn’t ruin the movie because she’s not the good guy, the Ape still is. She’s wrong in her opinion and she’s wrong in what she did.
I prefer that to her being overly heroic. But she’s annoyingly waif-like and young. She’s not fighting grown men.