Hey there Salt Strong. Got a Question for ya. I'm looking to get a BG MQ 2500. Only thing is, I'm not a fan of the T-style knobs. Can I get a knob from the Ballistic MQ to replace the then T-style one on the BG MQ?
@@JedemPoKucama honestly the Ballistic MQ LT is my favorite of them all, but between the Saltist MQ & the BG MQ I'm taking the Saltist. It's the handle that gives it the edge for me.
Good job Justin, Daiwa is all I use too, like to mention that as far as the mag seal, it’s only on the main shaft,not the line roller bearing, like they used to,( which is where I think it’s needed more ). The Saltist Back Bay is my choice over the Fuego ( which flexes too much for me ) but those LT reels are smaller. My overall choice is the BG MQ 4000, it retrieves 2+ more inches for 8 tenths of an ounce more for the same price. Good job thanks.
Those retrieve numbers are dependent on how full the spool is of line. The retrieve rate is greater as your lure/bait gets closer to the reel and the spool fills with line.
@@bravoset10 Unknown at this point. Daiwa is trying their best to get products out to all Retailers as fast as they can. Salt Strong does offer a Notification List in their store so you can be given a heads-up when it returns to inventory.
The saltist uses a bushing for the line roller but the higher end reels use a bearing. What i have heard is they used a bushing because that is the most likely place where sand, etc will get to.
I’m going to go with the BG MQ, I was going to get a stradic, but this looks real good for the money! And I plan on mounting it on a Daiwa Beachcaster.
As you said, there’s a lot a variables. I have pretty bad arthritis in both hands. The Saltist MQ’s knob & and ease of reeling offsets a lot of the pain that I experience with other stock reels while wade and kayak (Autopilot 136) fishing. I really enjoyed your in-depth review.
Those knobs can be super helpful for many reasons! So glad to hear that you have found some relief from these knobs! Thanks for the nice comment! We appreciate the support!
I have a Daiwa mini might gold ultra lite that i purchased about 46 or 47 years ago and I still use it. I caught hundreds of fish with it, including big carp, walleye and the biggest pike of my life on this tiny reel.
I'll be honest, the BGMQ 4000d- xh has replaced my Stradic as my goto inshore reel. While my stradic is still a great reel, for the money, the bgmq is a better buy.
@@Jritchey1211 yes I do. I’ve had my MQ for almost a year. Did my maintenance on it. Zero water or sand in it. Lol. Only feed back I’d give to Daiwa is to make a fully sealed MQ with a brass main gear. Sell it at 349 and you’d start taking that van stall money lol.
Great break down. So many reels out there and it gets confusing. I come from a fly fishing background and I can’t get over how much value you get with spinning gear. A 300 dollar fly reel is going to be pretty basic and if you took it into the salt it’d be shot after one trip. I’m liking the value of this new spinning world I’ve entered.
bullbay isn't bad. Got rid of mine. It not my taste. But star rod or st Croix all day for me. Even I got legend inshore it a great rod I can feel everything with it. But I'm a shimano guy. But diawa isn't a bad reel.
@@calallen8786 thanks, I’ve always been a Shimano Bait caster person. In fact I own 4 of them ~ 2 4500 and 2 6500. They are wonderful trolling reals. For my reals I have been all about Penn. St. Croix is definitely a great rod. I try to keep an open mind but, it’s hard to try something else when you’re happy with what you use.
@@garywood8449 wouldn't hurt to try something new like bullbay. Everyone has it own preference. I own a stradic fk 4000, saragosa 8000, ci4 3000, Sedona 2500, all been great rod and reel but conventional had alot in the past had to move recently and sold all my conventional but got 1 from my pop which is diawa sealine either 4/0 or a 6 not sure. I can't get rid of that one since it was my pop, he passed in 2012 due to cancer. So I'm glad I was able to save it
I have a question Richard I bought two 2500 ballistic MQ and it’s not as smooth as the BG MQ or my saltiest. I haven’t put line on it because it’s that noticeable of a difference could that possibly be a manufacturing problem? If you could let me know why I’m having this problem I would appreciate it. I did buy it from SS. The other one I haven’t taking it out of the box yet so I don’t know if the other one has the same problem. Thanks
Years ago, I couldn't pass up the deal- I live an fish the outer banks, NC. A tackle shop had a deal, buy a reel, get one free- so I bought 2 Diawa sweepfire, 2500- I put them each on 7foot Shimano rods, an have been working great for 9 years- I mostly Gotcha plug with them off a pier, or jig and spoon from the beach for blues, and Spanish Macs. NO complaints here.
do you think I should get the certate or the ballistic mq for inshore? I wish they had ball bering handles. always been with daiwa, love their saltist mq 3000 for the boat.
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By looking at the specs and features of the Ballistic and the Saltist. It seems that the Saltist is a Ballistic in Aluminum, especially in the 4000. I fish Sebastian inlet plus the river amd ocean. Would you recommend the saltist over the Ballistic?
Thanks for the video. I’m still unclear of the main differences between the Saltist and ballistic. Can these reels be used underwater? Or just the occasional dunk/sprayed ?
I would not advise dunking/using ANY of these reels underwater. That should only be reserved for "Fully Sealed" reels like Van Staal, ZeeBas, Tsunami SaltX and others.
Less than 2 years in, a year of rivers and only a few beach fishing trips and my pinion bearing on my BG MQ is shot from corrosion despite rinsing. Thankfully the grease in the bearing saved the bottom end, but the fact it corroded to almost seizing while the clutch only discolored is not a good sign.
I came from a Saltist 4000 sold it I now got a Ballistic 4000 MQ on a Diawa 9 feet Team surf rod the cement grey/red . I can cast far with it don’t get tired
great video, enjoyed every second. i tend to bg for rigidity and low cost, also for greater life span, smtg to rely on in any kind of situation. if i need to spin 1000s then there is plenty of lightweight cheap alternatives in my bag. one question remains: some people says that a ratio of 6.2 means weaker pull when the lure sticks in moss or smtg, so a 5.x ratio may increase the power of your reel for such a situation. what about that?
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Iv been using the daiwa BGMQ 3000 for a year and the saltist MQ since august in the surf. The BG MQ is like the regular BG but much more refined and not as oversized and much lighter etc., however I find myself being extra careful with it on the surf and thus only use mainly when I’m gonna pier fish or fish from rocks . The saltist MQ 2500 I have been using hard on the surf it’s taken waves bumps and so much more and it’s still smooth as day one I highly recommended both
@@raynman6466 you couldn’t go wrong with the Saltist for that , but it want more protection and better internals and sealed better I would recommend you get the Daiwa certate
@@Jaortega805 do you know of any articles or videos that show daiwas sealing in detail? I can find barely anything that actually states exactly what on the reel is sealed and how sealed it is
Hi Justin, one quick clarification. The Ballistic MQ does not have the screw-on cap and o-ring to house the AR clutch. I wish it did and I don't know why Daiwa omitted this feature. Instead it has a Flat-ish cap... Think BG with magseal.
Hi thank you for this video. It was great and now I am about to purchase the Ballistic 2500 for inshore redfish/trout of my kayak. What rod would you recommend pairing with it? Looking btw 100 to 200 dollars. I throw mostly soft plastics and topwater. Probably use 10 lb braid. Thank you!!! You guys have awesome content.
@@FLFlatsmaster The TFO Pro has an advantage over the Banshee for kayak fishing because it has a shorter butt. Also, it will have a much better hookup performance assuming this angler is using lures since its tip is stronger than the 6-12 Banshee that has a very soft tip (great for live bait, but not good for many soft plastic lures).
@@FLFlatsmaster Yes, the Banshee can be excellent for lighter lures. The issue comes up when the soft plastics are rigged weedless where the hook point needs to be set through plastic as well as the fish before the fish realizes what they ate isn't natural. As for the butt length, the TFO is only 9 inches from butt of the rod to the lowest point where the reel arm enters the reel seat on the rod. For the above reasons, I stand behind the recommendation stated above for a kayak angler who is using lures - the TFO Pro will save money while having better performance for a kayaker using weedless soft plastics.
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Love my Saltist MQ 5000, I'll be upgrading my other combos with the various Saltist reel sizes soon. Just don't mount them on cheap rods, kind of defeats the purpose of having a solid reel IMO
Wish they made a 6k ballistic MQ . And for 300usd with zinc gears wished at least they have a sealed roller bearing. -_- me personally wud save up 100 more and get a Certate or Luvias Airity. Better gears and sealed roller bearing.
@@aaronhiggs ikr if at least they made the roller bearing mag sealed and keep zinc gears i wud insta buy the saltist mq. I still prefer the saragosa on this price range. Better gears and sealed roller bearings. But at 400 certate and luvias airity is darn great for the price.
You seem to be suggesting that the Ballistic will flex in situations that the all-aluminum body MQ and Saltist won't. Is this from experience or do you just feel that would be the case?
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I just destroyed my BG reel trying to service it because 2 screws were over torqued by manufacturer, while waiting for new body 🙂figured it is time for a new salt water reel. I love my ballistic ex400H reel. Have saltist 450 which is a little faster but double the weight and I do not know what fish will have a chance against that tank. Now you really picked my interest with this little 300 saltist which should be smaller and lighter than my ballistic. My only concern is that I like using heavier braid (so I do not cut my fingers), and this thing is rated for 20 @220 yards. So the question is will I be able to put 150 yards of 40lb or 30lb braid on it and how will it flow? Price vice it is about $60 difference and I take rigid body as it may work better on bruiser blues.
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I have a Diawa Saltiest 5000 and love it. It's a perfect reel for fishing Grouper and Snapper off deeper reefs in Miami and Key Largo etc... Here's my confusion, I just ordered the Diawa Saltist MQ 5000 and it's TINY compared to the non MQ model. It looks like a reel you'd spool with 10lb test. Why would this 5000 class be so much smaller than the other 5000 class????
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I just heard that these reels use pot metal zinc gears. Really hoping that is a rumor and not true. If so that is very disappointing, even the cheaper brands offer brass and aluminum at $150 price points.
I bought a Daiwa Over There 11ft ML/M and when looking for a light reel, ended up with a Shimano Vanford 5K (surf fishing light lure casting outfit) I looked at the Daiwa BG MQ but a zinc gear in a premium reel is pathetic especially in this day and age. I really dig Daiwa rods, but their reels (unless you're in the top echelon of models) seem to fall short of the mark. The Vanford on the Over There looks better too and the whole combo is about ~500g which is incredible and I can cast slugs in the surf all day
Any recommendation on a reel size for the saltist mq for fishing live baits around bridge pilings for snook in FL and striper fishing up in the northeast? I do most of my fishing from a kayak and sometimes from shore. I’m leaning towards the 6000. Thanks for the great info!!
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In Ont Canada Shimano has jacked their prices up. 2500 Stradic is 289.99 plus 13% tax Just picked up the BG MQ. 259.99. Plus tax. Headed to SW Florida to test it out on some trout and snook. My BG3000 is a tank so this new MQ might feel better out of a kayak
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The best thing about BG MQ is that it doesn't have magseal 👍, make so much easier for DIY maintenance. I can save a ton of money by not sending it to daiwa for yearly maintenance. I has fuego 4k, the shipping and services to replace magseal, grease and oil cost 70% of the price of the real. With bg mq take me only 20 minutes to clean & new grease, oil. Most people overlooked that most important issue.
In your opinion, which reel in the market provides the longest casts? I'm not talking about among these three reels, I'm talking about any reel that provides the longest casts.
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I recently bought Penn reels, both the Slammer and the Spinfisher in the 4500 size! The slammer was launched by what I am thinking was a sharkand in the surf for maybe 10 - 15 minutes! The drag assembly was free of sand and water, the drive assembly was contaminated by water but totally free of sand! However to area between the rotator and the reel body was full of sand, you might think that on a reel costing close to 300.00 dollars, more attention might be paid to this area! The sand contamination in this area locked my reel up tight after maybe 10 turns of the handle after retrieving my outfit from the surf!
I am interested in building my first spinning setup for Inshore fishing in Louisiana, I am seriously considering the Saltist MQ, but I am torn between the 3000 and the 4000 Reels, as far as a Rod goes I am looking at the 7" to 7' 6" St Croix or the G Loomis medium heavy/fast action style rods. Any suggestions on which would be the better Reel for my intended use? I primarily fish Inshore Flats via boat, and I do some dock fishing as well in our wildlife areas in Cameron Parish.
3000 +10lb braid for artificials and casting all day. 4000+20lb braid for all around fishing. Ive paired my 3k reels with 7'6 M st croix avid inshore for casting distance and sensitivity. And 4k with 7' MH avid inshore for power to horse around quickly. St croix are abit stiffer imo than othe rod companies but great rods in my experience.
@@aaronhiggs if im fishing flats 6 to 8lb braid is so much fun on my 1k reel. The area i fish at theres so much structures such as oyster beds, mangroves, piling, rocks etc and 8lb frays so much easier. =)
This really goes to show how slow and behind Daiwa is at their North America game. Japan had the first MQ in the form of morethan in 2017, rest of the world got the Exist and subsequently the Luvias/certate MQs. And multiple MQ variants based Exist (e.g. airity) and Luvias (e.g. Caldia) cover from top tier fresh water to budget universal applications now world wide. Americans on the other hand only has 3 BG MQ’s for salt water and that kage MQ that only 5 people in total bought 😂😂😂
sugar coating everything where the bottom line is barrings 6-8- and 9 lol thats why ea is smoother then the other where the saltist is the best bang over all DIAWA SPINNING REELS hands down where shimano's ci4 was its best over all
The reason I just won't buy these is they basically decided they don't want you servicing them yourself. They don't even give you the MQ body wrench in the box and they don't sell the Daiwa magseal liquid. You can buy third party fluid but that's always a risk. I don't want to have to send this reel into Daiwa every year to be serviced when it's a 15 minute job myself.
No Sir, all metals bend, I deal with small , large and Extremely Large metal forms everyday. When it comes to any of these Three, they will flex in any and all applications, but it will come down to your or anybody's ability to adapt under pressure if that scenario presents itself. That instinct nature to back off the drag on the fly and slow fight a big fish rather than trying to thoroughbred horse the fish in because the premise is, "I've got Zaion LT baby, Light and Tough, Can't be beat., WRONG! No lie deceased as she may be now, I had a hardened step granny, finess and wear down a monster 62lbs flat head catfish on old-school 10lbs test, long before braid even came out, or existed. She had that patience and control and out of all the fish we caught, that big mamma jamma was the only one that had half body and tail outside the 5 gallon bucket.
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Hey there Salt Strong. Got a Question for ya. I'm looking to get a BG MQ 2500. Only thing is, I'm not a fan of the T-style knobs. Can I get a knob from the Ballistic MQ to replace the then T-style one on the BG MQ?
@@rrw2gonefishing I don't know but you can get a Gomexus one for it on Amazon like I did with my Shimano vanford.
If I start thinking my reel is " too heavy" , I hit the Gym.
Good rundown.
Thanks.
I have 2 x BG MQ 4000, 2 x Saltist MQ 3000 and 1 x Ballistic MQ LT 4000. They are all great reels. Glad to see Daiwa stepping up its game.
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Which one is your favorite? BG MQ or the Saltist MQ? Is it worth the price difference?
@@JedemPoKucama honestly the Ballistic MQ LT is my favorite of them all, but between the Saltist MQ & the BG MQ I'm taking the Saltist. It's the handle that gives it the edge for me.
Good job Justin, Daiwa is all I use too, like to mention that as far as the mag seal, it’s only on the main shaft,not the line roller bearing, like they used to,( which is where I think it’s needed more ). The Saltist Back Bay is my choice over the Fuego ( which flexes too much for me ) but those LT reels are smaller. My overall choice is the BG MQ 4000, it retrieves 2+ more inches for 8 tenths of an ounce more for the same price. Good job thanks.
Those retrieve numbers are dependent on how full the spool is of line. The retrieve rate is greater as your lure/bait gets closer to the reel and the spool fills with line.
Thanks for the time Justin.
I'm very impressed with the Saltist and the BGMQ.
will be please to order a 4000 Saltist when available
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@@Saltstrong Any idea when you guys are going to have the 3000 and 4000 Saltist in stock?
@@bravoset10 Unknown at this point. Daiwa is trying their best to get products out to all Retailers as fast as they can. Salt Strong does offer a Notification List in their store so you can be given a heads-up when it returns to inventory.
The saltist uses a bushing for the line roller but the higher end reels use a bearing. What i have heard is they used a bushing because that is the most likely place where sand, etc will get to.
Thanks for sharing!
@@Saltstrong preferably a Delrin bushing? Justin?
I’m going to go with the BG MQ, I was going to get a stradic, but this looks real good for the money! And I plan on mounting it on a Daiwa Beachcaster.
Thanks for watching!
As you said, there’s a lot a variables. I have pretty bad arthritis in both hands. The Saltist MQ’s knob & and ease of reeling offsets a lot of the pain that I experience with other stock reels while wade and kayak (Autopilot 136) fishing. I really enjoyed your in-depth review.
Those knobs can be super helpful for many reasons! So glad to hear that you have found some relief from these knobs! Thanks for the nice comment! We appreciate the support!
I have a Daiwa mini might gold ultra lite that i purchased about 46 or 47 years ago and I still use it. I caught hundreds of fish with it, including big carp, walleye and the biggest pike of my life on this tiny reel.
I also caught a 36 inch rainbow with the Daiwa mini might gold ultra lite.
Sweet!
I'll be honest, the BGMQ 4000d- xh has replaced my Stradic as my goto inshore reel. While my stradic is still a great reel, for the money, the bgmq is a better buy.
I know you put your reels through the ringer, too. Great feedback, Aaron 👌
@@Jritchey1211 yes I do. I’ve had my MQ for almost a year. Did my maintenance on it. Zero water or sand in it. Lol. Only feed back I’d give to Daiwa is to make a fully sealed MQ with a brass main gear. Sell it at 349 and you’d start taking that van stall money lol.
@@aaronhiggs we can only wish lol
@@ShinkiZer0 right? I wished someone would make a great quality, penn 702 style reel like the van staal at 348. They would kill it.
stradic all day for me
Great video Justin! So much info, you answered a lot of my questions. I'm looking to replace my Abu reels. Thanks Salt Strong.
We're glad that you found the video helpful! 💪
Great break down. So many reels out there and it gets confusing. I come from a fly fishing background and I can’t get over how much value you get with spinning gear. A 300 dollar fly reel is going to be pretty basic and if you took it into the salt it’d be shot after one trip. I’m liking the value of this new spinning world I’ve entered.
So glad that you are finding this helpful! 💪
Thank you so much! I am not purchasing today, but I will add a Diawa Saltist 3000 to my arsenal this year. Also plan to match it with a Bull Bay.
Great pairing! 🔥
bullbay isn't bad. Got rid of mine. It not my taste. But star rod or st Croix all day for me. Even I got legend inshore it a great rod I can feel everything with it. But I'm a shimano guy. But diawa isn't a bad reel.
@@calallen8786 thanks, I’ve always been a Shimano Bait caster person. In fact I own 4 of them ~ 2 4500 and 2 6500. They are wonderful trolling reals. For my reals I have been all about Penn. St. Croix is definitely a great rod. I try to keep an open mind but, it’s hard to try something else when you’re happy with what you use.
@@garywood8449 wouldn't hurt to try something new like bullbay. Everyone has it own preference. I own a stradic fk 4000, saragosa 8000, ci4 3000, Sedona 2500, all been great rod and reel but conventional had alot in the past had to move recently and sold all my conventional but got 1 from my pop which is diawa sealine either 4/0 or a 6 not sure. I can't get rid of that one since it was my pop, he passed in 2012 due to cancer. So I'm glad I was able to save it
Nice breakdown Justin!!! Thanks for the information
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I grew up during the 1970's, and Diawa was my choice of reels im still using diawa rels and amlooking for 2 types one for live bait one for lures.
Daiwa has reliable inshore fishing options for all applications!
I have a question Richard I bought two 2500 ballistic MQ and it’s not as smooth as the BG MQ or my saltiest. I haven’t put line on it because it’s that noticeable of a difference could that possibly be a manufacturing problem? If you could let me know why I’m having this problem I would appreciate it. I did buy it from SS. The other one I haven’t taking it out of the box yet so I don’t know if the other one has the same problem. Thanks
Years ago, I couldn't pass up the deal- I live an fish the outer banks, NC. A tackle shop had a deal, buy a reel, get one free- so I bought 2 Diawa sweepfire, 2500- I put them each on 7foot Shimano rods, an have been working great for 9 years- I mostly Gotcha plug with them off a pier, or jig and spoon from the beach for blues, and Spanish Macs. NO complaints here.
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P.S. Yes I personally have gotten spoiled with a round handle.
saltist mq is the same weight bec ball handle is more heavy than t handle
Thank you for information, may know BG MQ is left and right handle?
You can adjust the handle to whichever side is most comfortable.
Excellent explanation video !!! Very well done
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do you think I should get the certate or the ballistic mq for inshore? I wish they had ball bering handles. always been with daiwa, love their saltist mq 3000 for the boat.
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By looking at the specs and features of the Ballistic and the Saltist. It seems that the Saltist is a Ballistic in Aluminum, especially in the 4000.
I fish Sebastian inlet plus the river amd ocean. Would you recommend the saltist over the Ballistic?
I have the ballistic lt mq. Im a bit disappointed with the anti reverse berring. During cold weather use it tends to fail
Good feedback!
Saltist MQ or the Shimano sustain? Look at both which one should I choose in the 4000 size?
I want a smooth drag
Thanks for the video. I’m still unclear of the main differences between the Saltist and ballistic.
Can these reels be used underwater? Or just the occasional dunk/sprayed ?
I would not advise dunking/using ANY of these reels underwater. That should only be reserved for "Fully Sealed" reels like Van Staal, ZeeBas, Tsunami SaltX and others.
Wondering what kind of fishing your doing underwater
for the price you should be able to fish in a volcano
@@annabanna666 I feel like that was his next question can I use these on the sun's surface or just lunch into orbit?
@@annabanna666 these are pretty inexpensive reels. The most expensive is the Saltist MQ which is like $300.
Less than 2 years in, a year of rivers and only a few beach fishing trips and my pinion bearing on my BG MQ is shot from corrosion despite rinsing. Thankfully the grease in the bearing saved the bottom end, but the fact it corroded to almost seizing while the clutch only discolored is not a good sign.
Excellent breakdown! I own a 4000 Saltist mq I use for blackfish, striper, and bluefish. I love it so much I’m going to buy another one!
Thank you!
I am not interested in mag sealed anything so makes my choice easy cheers .
Honestly, I’m the same way. I like having the solid gasket more than the mag seal tbh.
Now you have to compare the Saltist to the new Caldia SW...they seem like the same thing to me
Very happy with my BG4000, but a Saltist is under the radar! 😄
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I came from a Saltist 4000 sold it I now got a Ballistic 4000 MQ on a Diawa 9 feet Team surf rod the cement grey/red . I can cast far with it don’t get tired
Nice!
Thanks Justin! You da man
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Hi. I bought BG MQ 2500 reel two days ago. Can this reel handle metal jigs from 10 to 25 grams on 254 cm 10-32 gram ex fast rod?
It's called the Pflueger Supreme XT., $179 and it has an anti reverse switch.
I never see you guys catch flathead do you have them over there
We don't - closest comparison might be catfish or flounder!
The XH models speed makes a huge difference in the surf. I really like the 2500 Saltist, but it is way too slow for my specific needs.
Awesome Daiwa comparison review
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great video, enjoyed every second. i tend to bg for rigidity and low cost, also for greater life span, smtg to rely on in any kind of situation. if i need to spin 1000s then there is plenty of lightweight cheap alternatives in my bag. one question remains: some people says that a ratio of 6.2 means weaker pull when the lure sticks in moss or smtg, so a 5.x ratio may increase the power of your reel for such a situation. what about that?
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Efectivamente. Es como una bicicleta, a mayor desarrollo más velocidad y menos fuerza.
Iv been using the daiwa BGMQ 3000 for a year and the saltist MQ since august in the surf. The BG MQ is like the regular BG but much more refined and not as oversized and much lighter etc., however I find myself being extra careful with it on the surf and thus only use mainly when I’m gonna pier fish or fish from rocks . The saltist MQ 2500 I have been using hard on the surf it’s taken waves bumps and so much more and it’s still smooth as day one I highly recommended both
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So a saltist mq can take a dunk in the drink? I've been trying to find a good SEALED lightweight 2500 for kayak and beach fishing
@@raynman6466 you couldn’t go wrong with the Saltist for that , but it want more protection and better internals and sealed better I would recommend you get the Daiwa certate
@@Jaortega805 do you know of any articles or videos that show daiwas sealing in detail? I can find barely anything that actually states exactly what on the reel is sealed and how sealed it is
Hi Justin, one quick clarification. The Ballistic MQ does not have the screw-on cap and o-ring to house the AR clutch. I wish it did and I don't know why Daiwa omitted this feature. Instead it has a Flat-ish cap... Think BG with magseal.
Hi thank you for this video. It was great and now I am about to purchase the Ballistic 2500 for inshore redfish/trout of my kayak. What rod would you recommend pairing with it? Looking btw 100 to 200 dollars. I throw mostly soft plastics and topwater. Probably use 10 lb braid. Thank you!!! You guys have awesome content.
@@FLFlatsmaster thank you!!! Gonna purchase soon!
We love the TFO (fishstrong.com/collections/saltwater-rods)!
@@FLFlatsmaster The TFO Pro has an advantage over the Banshee for kayak fishing because it has a shorter butt. Also, it will have a much better hookup performance assuming this angler is using lures since its tip is stronger than the 6-12 Banshee that has a very soft tip (great for live bait, but not good for many soft plastic lures).
@@FLFlatsmaster Yes, the Banshee can be excellent for lighter lures. The issue comes up when the soft plastics are rigged weedless where the hook point needs to be set through plastic as well as the fish before the fish realizes what they ate isn't natural.
As for the butt length, the TFO is only 9 inches from butt of the rod to the lowest point where the reel arm enters the reel seat on the rod.
For the above reasons, I stand behind the recommendation stated above for a kayak angler who is using lures - the TFO Pro will save money while having better performance for a kayaker using weedless soft plastics.
Which reel and what size is best for flounder fishing off the jersey shore?
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Love my Saltist MQ 5000, I'll be upgrading my other combos with the various Saltist reel sizes soon. Just don't mount them on cheap rods, kind of defeats the purpose of having a solid reel IMO
I hate seeing $400 reels on $50 rods, it's amazing. Gotta feel that bite to put the high end reel into action.
Wish they made a 6k ballistic MQ . And for 300usd with zinc gears wished at least they have a sealed roller bearing. -_- me personally wud save up 100 more and get a Certate or Luvias Airity. Better gears and sealed roller bearing.
That’s the point. I’d they had better gears and a roller (which always fails In saltwater reels imho ) they would just be certates lol
@@aaronhiggs ikr if at least they made the roller bearing mag sealed and keep zinc gears i wud insta buy the saltist mq. I still prefer the saragosa on this price range. Better gears and sealed roller bearings. But at 400 certate and luvias airity is darn great for the price.
Do i send the MQ reels back to Daiwa in case i need to service them or accidentally dunk it underwater?
You can find a Daiwa authorized service shop if that happens, and we would suggest they service it for you. 💪
You seem to be suggesting that the Ballistic will flex in situations that the all-aluminum body MQ and Saltist won't. Is this from experience or do you just feel that would be the case?
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Great reveiw bro
Is the ballistic 2500 size the same body as the 3000 just with a smaller spool?
Yes, very similar in size. The 3000 is ever-so-slightly larger, but it's marginal at best.
Justin what is the main. Gear made out of ?, brass-or cast zinc? Wish you had a link for sale of these reels to,your store! Thanks george
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I just destroyed my BG reel trying to service it because 2 screws were over torqued by manufacturer, while waiting for new body 🙂figured it is time for a new salt water reel. I love my ballistic ex400H reel. Have saltist 450 which is a little faster but double the weight and I do not know what fish will have a chance against that tank. Now you really picked my interest with this little 300 saltist which should be smaller and lighter than my ballistic. My only concern is that I like using heavier braid (so I do not cut my fingers), and this thing is rated for 20 @220 yards. So the question is will I be able to put 150 yards of 40lb or 30lb braid on it and how will it flow? Price vice it is about $60 difference and I take rigid body as it may work better on bruiser blues.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm trying to decide between the Daiwa Saltist 6000 and the Shimano Sustain FJ 5000.
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I have a Diawa Saltiest 5000 and love it. It's a perfect reel for fishing Grouper and Snapper off deeper reefs in Miami and Key Largo etc... Here's my confusion, I just ordered the Diawa Saltist MQ 5000 and it's TINY compared to the non MQ model. It looks like a reel you'd spool with 10lb test. Why would this 5000 class be so much smaller than the other 5000 class????
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I just heard that these reels use pot metal zinc gears. Really hoping that is a rumor and not true. If so that is very disappointing, even the cheaper brands offer brass and aluminum at $150 price points.
BG MQ 3k or Saltist MQ 3k for kayaking for striped bass?
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Which Daiwa bg model reel is perfect for fresh water fishing in 5000 series ?
( bg5000 magsealed, bg5000 airbail, or 5000mq series )
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Anyone heard about Daiwa GT ARK? I can see them for sale but nothing on Daiwa website or anywhere?
Not recommended daiwa GT ark for Asian market 😅
I bought a Daiwa Over There 11ft ML/M and when looking for a light reel, ended up with a Shimano Vanford 5K (surf fishing light lure casting outfit)
I looked at the Daiwa BG MQ but a zinc gear in a premium reel is pathetic especially in this day and age.
I really dig Daiwa rods, but their reels (unless you're in the top echelon of models) seem to fall short of the mark.
The Vanford on the Over There looks better too and the whole combo is about ~500g which is incredible and I can cast slugs in the surf all day
Thank you for checking it out and for the feedback. We are happy to hear you found a reel you like!
Any recommendation on a reel size for the saltist mq for fishing live baits around bridge pilings for snook in FL and striper fishing up in the northeast? I do most of my fishing from a kayak and sometimes from shore. I’m leaning towards the 6000. Thanks for the great info!!
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What Rod would you pair with the ballistic mq 2500 for open water inshore fishing for red/trout from a kayak?
We love the TFO (fishstrong.com/collections/saltwater-rods)!
I need a reel with line capacity and pick up surf fishing for big tarpon and jacks off the beach. Is the 14k MQ capable?
Some would say that's almost overpowered! A lot use 8K size!
@@Saltstrong thank you for the insight and advice
Hola me llamo Mario, soy de Perú, Gracias por el vídeo, me gustó mucho y fué muy ilustrativo...! Saludos y éxitos para Uds.
Thanks for watching!
In Ont Canada Shimano has jacked their prices up. 2500 Stradic is 289.99 plus 13% tax
Just picked up the BG MQ. 259.99. Plus tax. Headed to SW Florida to test it out on some trout and snook. My BG3000 is a tank so this new MQ might feel better out of a kayak
Have a great trip!
I want the best for the money to surf fish??
The BG is likely the best option of the 3 for the surf
where do you think the KAGE LT fits into this lineup?
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Thanks bud, good demo.
No problem 👍
What's in those long brown Daiwa boxes?
More reels! It is just inventory we haven't opened to place on the shelves for our shipping crew to fulfill orders from.
Strong and durable aluminum , or light Zion V and Mag-Seal, OR... ALL of the best features ! Wow; choices, choices, choices.
Thanks for watching!
Is the saltist really worth $100 more than the bg mq?
Just got to weight the pros and cons and see which is the right fit for your needs and budget!
Epic review!
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The best thing about BG MQ is that it doesn't have magseal 👍, make so much easier for DIY maintenance.
I can save a ton of money by not sending it to daiwa for yearly maintenance. I has fuego 4k, the shipping and services to replace magseal, grease and oil cost 70% of the price of the real. With bg mq take me only 20 minutes to clean & new grease, oil.
Most people overlooked that most important issue.
Can you service them? I was told that you’re not able to service MQ reels cause they’re single piece body.
Any chance you guys review the Penn Pursuit IV
I’ve got one. Great reel at that price point; only issue I have with it is flex at the stem. Feels more flexible at the stem than a pursuit 3.
Good video, Justin! 👍
Good analytical review.
Thank you!
In your opinion, which reel in the market provides the longest casts? I'm not talking about among these three reels, I'm talking about any reel that provides the longest casts.
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What is the ball bearing for? the more bearing on the reel market more stronger thanks for your information on this reels.
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Why cant you answer a question, instead of them them to another site filled with adds.
I recently bought Penn reels, both the Slammer and the Spinfisher in the 4500 size! The slammer was launched by what I am thinking was a sharkand in the surf for maybe 10 - 15 minutes! The drag assembly was free of sand and water, the drive assembly was contaminated by water but totally free of sand! However to area between the rotator and the reel body was full of sand, you might think that on a reel costing close to 300.00 dollars, more attention might be paid to this area! The sand contamination in this area locked my reel up tight after maybe 10 turns of the handle after retrieving my outfit from the surf!
Thank you so much.
You're welcome! Hope it was helpful!
Great video
Thanks for watching!
Camaraman, plz stop moving.
A tripod would be nice lol
I think I go a with the bg I fish for musky in fresh water the mag seal would not matter
But what do I need to catch a yellow tail?
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I like the Saltist MQ but not that blue.
good job bro
Thanks
Never heard of the ballistic, must not have been released in Australia yet
It might not have yet but we love it here!
I am interested in building my first spinning setup for Inshore fishing in Louisiana, I am seriously considering the Saltist MQ, but I am torn between the 3000 and the 4000 Reels, as far as a Rod goes I am looking at the 7" to 7' 6" St Croix or the G Loomis medium heavy/fast action style rods. Any suggestions on which would be the better Reel for my intended use? I primarily fish Inshore Flats via boat, and I do some dock fishing as well in our wildlife areas in Cameron Parish.
3000 +10lb braid for artificials and casting all day. 4000+20lb braid for all around fishing. Ive paired my 3k reels with 7'6 M st croix avid inshore for casting distance and sensitivity. And 4k with 7' MH avid inshore for power to horse around quickly. St croix are abit stiffer imo than othe rod companies but great rods in my experience.
@@ShinkiZer0 pretty much. I like going to 2500s and 8lb suffix 835 on my artificial set up.
@@aaronhiggs if im fishing flats 6 to 8lb braid is so much fun on my 1k reel. The area i fish at theres so much structures such as oyster beds, mangroves, piling, rocks etc and 8lb frays so much easier. =)
@@ShinkiZer0 big same. I love throwing 8lb on my 2000 size penn battle 3 and my 6’6” ml calico jack rod.
You can’t go wrong with a saltist paired with any st croix rod. Best warranty in the business (15 years) and best of all Made in the USA 🇺🇸!
Diawa is decent for spinning except saltiga! But love their conventional. But I'm shimano guy all day long!
This really goes to show how slow and behind Daiwa is at their North America game. Japan had the first MQ in the form of morethan in 2017, rest of the world got the Exist and subsequently the Luvias/certate MQs. And multiple MQ variants based Exist (e.g. airity) and Luvias (e.g. Caldia) cover from top tier fresh water to budget universal applications now world wide. Americans on the other hand only has 3 BG MQ’s for salt water and that kage MQ that only 5 people in total bought 😂😂😂
If the Daiwa saltiest cost $300 for $300 or $200 more I’ll buy the van staal for surf
Van Staal is a great reel as well.
sugar coating everything where the bottom line is barrings 6-8- and 9 lol thats why ea is smoother then the other where the saltist is the best bang over all DIAWA SPINNING REELS hands down where shimano's ci4 was its best over all
I have Saltist and is made in China.
Daiwa makes some of the best inshore spinning reels out there!
The reason I just won't buy these is they basically decided they don't want you servicing them yourself. They don't even give you the MQ body wrench in the box and they don't sell the Daiwa magseal liquid. You can buy third party fluid but that's always a risk. I don't want to have to send this reel into Daiwa every year to be serviced when it's a 15 minute job myself.
Thanks for your feedback!
Cant finish this vid, sry. Angle, focus stand point.
Dude is just reading off the box. like no one else can do that
Saragosa 5000
That is a good one!
Buy all 3 😂
Yep! Can't ever have enough!
Saltiga or nothing 😎
Go with what you're comfortable with!
Once you are rich
You left out the biggest difference between the reels!
I'll take the solid feel of the aluminum body and deal with the little increase in weight!
Thanks for checking out the video!
No Sir, all metals bend, I deal with small , large and Extremely Large metal forms everyday. When it comes to any of these Three, they will flex in any and all applications, but it will come down to your or anybody's ability to adapt under pressure if that scenario presents itself. That instinct nature to back off the drag on the fly and slow fight a big fish rather than trying to thoroughbred horse the fish in because the premise is, "I've got Zaion LT baby, Light and Tough, Can't be beat., WRONG! No lie deceased as she may be now, I had a hardened step granny, finess and wear down a monster 62lbs flat head catfish on old-school 10lbs test, long before braid even came out, or existed. She had that patience and control and out of all the fish we caught, that big mamma jamma was the only one that had half body and tail outside the 5 gallon bucket.