Just bought 2 stradic FM’s (2500 & 3000) from you guys and absolutely love them! Super smooth and light. The shop is amazing btw, I’ll definitely be back 💯
@@tailwateroutfitters sir can I ask you wich model chose? I have a 7-30 gr rod so i`m definitely going with the 2500 one. But I don`t know if I should buy the HG one or the normal one. I fish in canary Islands in the coast and sometimes up in a Paddle board or kayak. Thanks in advance! I`d like to hearing from you guys
@@michaelfrankis When you own a Daiwa reel, then you'll understand certain shortcomings of Shimano reels. There are advantages and disadvantages so it comes down to personal preference. For big reels on big fish if we're talking about spin reels then it's Daiwa all the way. Overhead reels on big fish then Shimano but the Saltiga LD and Penn International reels are solid. On smaller spin and overhead reels I prefer Shimano due to the better line lay and drag sound, but the Daiwa Certate LT reels are probably the smoothest reels one can buy in any brand. Build quality is where Daiwa excels, along with better sealing (although mag seal), gear power and body rigidity due to monocoque design, line capacity & lighter weight (except for Saltiga LD reels) and technology, but Shimano excels in line lay, casting distance, mostly louder drag sound and smoothness even over a long period. I have all mid-high end reels from both companies. The 2020 Saltiga is the ultimate spin reel and 2013 Stella in 2nd place. I prefer the current Twinpower SW over the Certate SW only due to smoothness and weight, but the Exist LT and Certate LT reels are elite from other Shimano reels of that size range.
I have a BG MQ that I use for yellowtail and it is flawless. Get drag and power and super smooth. I had Stradics over the years and broke everyone and no longer even have one. The BG MQ worth a try.
I’ve been fishing Shimano exclusively for 25 years. They’ve always been solid choices. Since then, I’ve moved to Florida where I’ve mostly been fishing inshore saltwater flats and the last two Stradics I bought are having issues. The newest one is seized up right after the one year mark (one year warranty) and the Stradic I bought about two years ago had a broken drag clicker. However, it is still functioning. For the first time I’m looking as replacing them with Daiwa. Note- I do rinse and maintain my feels. All my reels look brand new.
A broken drag clicker spring is a 2 cent part.. could fail on a daiwa aswell.. I own a ballistic that broke inside.. i can turn the handle the rotor doesnt move.. now thats a faillure.. Daiwa is solid aswell.. just a bit more expensive overall.. and not better then the shimano.. so if u want to pay another 50 bucks to get a comparable daiwa go for it.
Great video! I still have the original Aero Stradic 2000. It's pearl white with a wooden handle and a aluminum spool and came with a spare. I've caught thousands of Bass on it. My P.B. 12.5 LB. Largemouth and believe it or not, a 140Lb. Tarpon (After a 3 hour fight). Now it's collecting dust because it weights 9.7oz. I have a few 18' Tatula's and 2 Stradic FL in the 1000 and 2500 sizes and just love my Stradics. I don't feel the need to get the FM. My FL''s are perfectly smooth with NO handle play.
I have an 89 wood handled Stradic. It was called the Aero back then. I broke my wooden single handle and replaced it with a Double handle Spirex! Still smooth like butter but the Anti Reverse gave out.
I think Daiwa would have something to say about that. Daiwa's MQ reels can house bigger main gears in smaller reels which make them a lot more powerful and possess greater body rigidity. Also magseal technology is way beyond what Shimano offer even though it requires Daiwa servicing. The 2020 Saltiga is the finest spin reel ever made even though I highly rate the 2013 Stella.
@@slyarsenalMQ is daiwas way of saying they don't want customers to service their reels. That won't go well with saltwater guys. While an oversized gear, I don't believe the MQ's, at least lower ones, have a particularly robust gearing. If what the above reviewer says is true of the certate I certainly wouldn't want one. I'm easy on my reels and they don't require much for service. Once I can't find any prior MQ daiwas, I'll be going to Shimano. MQ is a bad direction, just think if all manufacturers start making all products non serviceable.
@@tbauer2521 I'm a Saltwater fisherman both off the rocks and boat. My gear is exposed to a lot of harsh conditions so I prefer Daiwa. You can buy tools to open MQ reels which I have and ferro fluid can be bought on ebay. It's just most people who don't know how to service their own Daiwa gear complain about it, but then again, sometimes I have no time so I just get it serviced for a small price. If you're a light fisherman then why are you even concerned about servicing MQ reels. You'd only need to have the magseals checked every 5 yrs, but by then I'm already upgrading to the next flagship reel. There are a few reels such as the 2013 Stella which I kept and didn't bother buying a 2019 because it's not better imo. In smaller reels I love MQ , especially when it comes to squidding amd popping lures. Overall fighting fish on MQ reels is so much more a pleasure due to hardly any flex. As much as I like working swim lures with my twinpower sw 6k, when it comes to fighting big fish the certate sw 6k's body is a lot more sturdy. There are advantages and disadvantages of both brands. Try slidebaiting with a shimano reel when you're casting over 120m with a 10oz weight, then try it with an MQ reel. You tell me which is easier on the retrieve when you need to check your bait. I guess a lot of people don't use a myriad of fishing techniques to understand what's actually better depending on the application
Alot of loyal japanese shimano enthusiasts are rating the 24 Certate LT to be a superior reel compared to the Twinpower. It's a pretty close match up, but once you have a spin of the new airdrive reels you'll notice the difference.
I switched to Shimano back when the Stradic ci4+ launched in 2016. I now own a Stradic FL and ci4+, Vanford, and a Sahara. Along the way I picked up a Daiwa BG and Ballistic LT. In my experience, Shimano makes better reels. The BG has been great but my Ballistic LT was a bit of a disappointment. Not as smooth as any of the Shimano reels and I’ve had the bail snap shut when casting multiple times. I’ve wanted to try out an MQ reel from Daiwa but seeing as it’s hard to service one yourself is a bit of a turn off. Daiwa doesn’t sell an MQ side plate tool and doesn’t sell magseal oil. You’d have to buy non authentic tools and oil from eBay. Not to mention how expensive the non authentic stuff is. Hopefully they begin to sell or include an MQ side plate tool with their reels and sell the magseal oil.
Obviously this guy is a local and hasn't been around. In Canada, Shimano spinning reels have been king of the hill for freshwater fishing for 30+ years.
The air bail on the Ballistic MQ might appear bigger but it's a hollowed bail, where the BG MQ has a solid bail. I wouldn't say the Air Bail is heavier. I feel you on the BG MQ being very solid, I fished the 3000 size BG MQ for a year and definitely love the big gear in a solid aluminum MQ housing. Love the content, you seem to know your stuff compare to a lot of other reel talkers on RUclips. Subscribed!
I still run my Stradic FJ from around 2014 lol. I used it a lot for 2-3 seasons then stopped fishing for years till this year (2024). So it’s still pretty fresh. But I chose a Stradic due to getting an overwhelming majority of recommendations for it over anything else.
i have the daiwa ballistic mq lt 2500d-xh and it is an absolutely amasing reel. I took it to saltwater and it did not flinch, there is absolutely no "start resistance" which is great when you havw 6.2:1 ratio, and the reeling itself is super smooth.
Even thought the ballistic mq bail wire is bigger, I think it’s hollow which is what promotes that easier startup . Daiwa reels seem to “break in” and develop handle play pretty quickly. That being said, I’ll probably always stick to Shimano for inshore applications. The Sustain is a killer reel if you are able and willing to pay up for it. I have a review video of the Sustain C3000Hg on my channel
Got into the fishing world around the early 2000’s was told you couldn’t go wrong with a Penn and an Ugly Stick.. lol thats here in S.Florida where it was available from Walmart to Sports Authority in addition to Bass Pro and the local shops.
Stradic FM is top notch hands down. Versatile reel with incredible smooth action but with torque power for a rather light reel. Big Bang for your Buck. Won't regret purchasing it if you must.
@@InshorePursuitFL It does indeed click more than the FL, however, not in the water. That is the only flaw that it has to my taste as well but it can be prevented with tweaking the drag I believe
I own several Shimano reels with the Stradic FM being one of them. The reason you sell so many Shimano reels is because they are just better. I have checked out a few of my friends Daiwa and Penn and they just don't compare. As a side note, if you're willing to spend a little over $400 and don't mind importing a reel from a Japanese retailer, the 2024 Shimano Vanquish is amazing and I absolutely love mine!
Stradic all day every day even on Sunday! I am a Shimano fanboy no denying it although historically I always equated "salt" to Penn and not Shimano. Daiwa makes great reels as well and I own a few including the basic BG which is a tremendous reel and value for what it is. In my humble opinion the sexiest reel ever made belongs to Daiwa and I don't own it. Wonder if the presenter knows what reel I am talking about?
How is that mq ? Any flex issues ? I tend to buy so many reels but daiwas LT reels are absolutely junk , their aluminum reels are fantastic. Haven't tried the mq yet but was told the mq material is updated to resolve / fix the lt reels flex issues and cheap quality feel issues
Out of the top of my head the Ballistic has a larger looking bail but it’s called the air bail and it’s actually lighter than the smaller diameter bail in the BG.
@@tailwateroutfitters also ballistic has the magseal and the BG doesn’t. Arguable as to much of a difference that really makes but it is something to note.
Fishing is funny...I went down the rabbit hole until I was spending 200 on a reel and even more on a rod, and at the end of the day....I still grab the $59 daiwa reel and $99 tatula rod combo I have 90% of the time. I just can't stay away from it.
love the butt hurt daiwa fanboys in the comments ahahaha its great. there is a good reason why almost everyone from all continents mainly fishes shimano
I have the stradic 2500 & 3000 FM. And absolutely love them. The only thing i didnt like about them was the new drag washers. Switched them out for carbon fiber washer and 10x better now. Im actually wondering how the daiwa mq reels are. I used alot of their reels too but sold majority of them. Their Aluminum reels are great but their LT reels are absolutely junk. I wouldnt tell a beginner to get an LT reel. Any flex issues Or cheap ish feeling with the MQ ?
I’ve heard of quite a few people swapping those drag washers. As far as flex issues in the BG MQ, personally I can’t answer that, but it definitely doesn’t feel cheap to me. The ballistic did a little bit, but not the BG MQ. I’d have to pull on some fish to see if it flexes.
@@tailwateroutfitters that's great to hear. I had the Fuego lt , back Bay lt , ballistic lt , EXIST and the exist is the only one I've kept. But the ballistic and Fuego lts felt like I bought a toy reel would flex on 3lb bass 🤦🏽♂️ 😂 Definitely like to hear your guys thoughts once you guys get to use the mq
If youve fished an exist the only comparable to it or even better at lower price point are shimano vanquish and daiwa luvias airity. Imo MQ series thats worth it are luvias airity, certate and saltigas. I like the feel, drag, castability, power, seal and weight of stradics, vanford and saragosa. If you service your own reel go with shimanos. MQ you need special tool and some will require ferro fluid for mag seals..
@@artificialslinger9730LOL 😂 The Exist comes from a different planet!!! Asian portal for some amazing prices. The new SHIMANO Twin Power FE or DIAWA Certate? I'm on the fence.
@@TroyCote yup that's where I shop for all my Shimanos and daiwas. It's crazy how much U.S. stores increase the prices. Absolutely insane That's definitely a tough call. I do tend to lean more Shimano then daiwa most the time. I do have a twin FE already pre ordered
Im sad my ci4+ had its gears melted and couldnt get it fixed. I hooked on a 42in red and after that it wouldnt even turn. I have a 4k stradic, 6k twin power SW, and 3k ballistic
My Pflueger Supreme XT costs $169, has a 6.2 gear ratio ,11 bearings, the same non existent 34" retrieve, a drag as good as any real on the market AND it still has an anti reverse lever. Why any one who actually fishes with spinning reals would buy one without an anti reverse lever is beyond me. The spinning reals greatest benefit is it's ability to back real went playing a big fish.
The vanford is like 20-30 bucks more if u look around (more like 140 vs180 bucks).. If u want lighter get that.. otherwize the stradic is fine for the money.. I own like 4 stradics.. couple of vanfords.. couple ballistics..
Has anyone noticed the Shimano reel has significant rotor vibration when you turn the handle quickly. And the spool will shake at the same time. I went through 6 Vanford and 5 stradic FL and 2 FM, they all have the same problem. Design problem? Quality control? I don't know. It might not bother some people but it bothers me. It is like the the steering wheel vibrate when tires arent balanace.
personally, shimano tends to be nicer looking... they have nice technology, look at the slow ocilation in the Stella FK, soon alot of their reels will have something unique. id have to fish both in order to compare.. but for now, i go with Stella. I have 3.
Crooks and crooks coconut grove service every reels, friday to next friday turn over for most maintenance, that is if no major repair required. The guys there know their stuff. I was getting my saltiga's serviced there as well, I remember a 6500 saltiga's costs around 75 to do a major overhaul without replacing parts. They have a technician collecting the reels on fridays and dropping the ones from the previous week. I am ready to do my daiwa's myself as well now.
I just lost mine in the water out on my brand new kayak for the first time… gone… I’m beyond upset about it.. maybe can hook me up with a new discounted Shimano Stradic???
Hey, what do you think about Shimano Vanford versus the Daiwa Ballistic MQ LT for an all-rounder. I am looking to purchase something that is best in both worlds.
@@1974DAVIDC daiwa is getting better but theres no heat on Shimano right now. Daiwas aluminum reels are fantastic, their lt reels are junk. Havent got to try the mq reels yet but looking for to trying them. Hoping they got the frame flex issues solved.
@@tailwateroutfitters I have had 6 Vanfords. Sold them all but 3. I kept both my 2000s and my 500. Sold both my 3000s and 2500. I honestly don't like the material the Vanford is made from. The old Stradic ci4s to me had a more durable and reliable material for their frames. Id honestly have them bump up to the sustain. It's about 1oz heavier then the Vanford but the frame is much better and don't have the " cheap " feeling to it
how is the handleplay and knobplay in the ballistic, the vanford is to much handlearm play but solid knob.. fm wiggly handlerarm play and knobplay.. hated vanford (was nice first month but all 4of mine broke down under a year..) ballistic or stradic fm( hand put 2 bearings in the knob i) 2500 size for a megabass p5 windbuster destroyer.. fishing perch in sweden..want the vanquish but dont have that kind of cash.. so its down to ballistic or the fm.. caldia seems nice BUT T HANDLE KNOB NOOOO THANKS
The ballistic feels pretty tight, but still has a slight play. It's definitely tighter than the 2020 Vanford. Very similar in that aspect to the stradic fm
Yes, it have sounds when you reel, also free play on handle... it is not as "smooth" as people say... i have daiwa reels and they are way smoother... than this.
@@InshorePursuitFL no, this is my first shimano reel... and i like daiwa better because is way smoother when you reel, on FM you feel that friction and hearing the noise when reel it.
@@chemareasalbaticieivery interesting I wonder if you would feel the same with the FL which I found to be extremely smooth. Which Daiwa reel do you typically fish and prefer
Carnegie said never be the one who invents a thing. Be the one who best markets the thing. He was the Elon Musk of his day. However, Shimano seems able to do both and with internet speed turnaround times it looks like that is the best strategy for putting gizmos in a box and selling them. Also Shimano has a huge r&d capacity due to their bicycle parts business where they command the market as well. Did you ever notice how much alike Ford, GM, Dodge, Toyota, and Hyundai cars and trucks look alike? That’s not an accident.
Czesc on mowi ze Daiwa i Stradic to jego wybur ale opstaje za Stradick .KOLEGO JAK MASZ OKAZIE KUP SOBIE DAIWA TATULA MQ LT I ZOBACZYSZ ZE TO JEST NAJLEPSZY WYBUR .POZDRAWIAM
I think it's so funny, The old Mustang vs Camaro!!! They both make incredible reels, I've used a ton of reels from both companies over 40+ years of fishing and honestly I can't choose a better brand. They're both covering all price points and the slower start up of the Shimanos feel better to me. More solid, more line manageable if that even makes sense. My favorite spinning reel is Still my 2006 Quantum pti 30. My father passed away and left it to me, and yes it's part of it, but go on tackle tours archives and it still might be the highest scoring reel ever!
I think all new daiwas have initially smoother feel over the shimanos, its the larger gear teeth more contact with the pinion gear, my bg feels as free spinning as my stradic fl but i still think shimano has the better gear material and design over time for sure, it feels more connected especially under heavy load my 08 and 13 stellas feel unusually smooth now after a few seasons and basic service. And they super easy ro service, daiwa makes it hassle to do basic service which is a shit business strategy. Shimano is just the gold standard just make sure you dont overpay tho half of shimanos lineup is redundant just so they can sell more reels every year unfortunately, the new stellas and twin powers dont hold a candle to the certate let alone the new saltiga but saragosa, stradic, vanford thunnus ci4 are class leading beasts and all you will ever need for 99% of people unless ur chasing monsters consistently then buy a used stella 2013 or new saltiga despite the service issue. Daiwa catalina and isla is underrated reel, but if you broke the fin nor lethal 100 is an unusually overbuilt boat reelz shit has insane gears and drag along with design that can hold that much drag. Also Skip the bg mq and saltist mq its basicly just a sealed bg. The regular bg does everything th same if you need sealing buy a saragosa
I have 150-200$ Which is best for surf spinning reel I will use real cut small fish or shrimps or calamari cut small pieces And looking for long distance I have daiwa bg60 it said Black Gold BG20 Heavy Action Saltwater Spinning reel 3 bearings Stainless Steel Ball Bearing,/ 4.7:1 gear ratio / 21.7 max drag , Its old so i was thinking maybe the reels are better
@@tailwateroutfitters will watch review ^^ i only have and tried daiwa bg60 bought it 2012 😂 later i knew daiwa good brand and can give to grand grand grand son
So much emphasis on color choice, I forgot that blue, silver and red was strictly for Shimano. No one else can use them lol, literally the most basic color choices for reels.
Shimano into salt? Daiwa into bass? I guess all my Coastal's aren't serious.... Where's the funny fat guy? At least he spoke truth. By the way the first iteration of the Ballistic was out years before the Vanford and one year before the CI4's that turned pink after a week's worth of sun.
Seems like you didn’t watch the whole video… I mentioned some of Daiwa’s saltwater specific reels. I also mentioned the ballistic was out before the vanford… but I can’t remember exactly when the ci4 and ballistic first came out
I have just opened s stradic 5000FM and found it very disappointing. All the gear used to turn the worm shaft are plastic, the main gear bearings are shot, that's the reason most Stradic FM sound as if something was touching, then the spool shaft end piece, that aluminum knuckle dragging on the worm gear is completely corroded and falling in pieces on mine, just bad aluminum can't resist humidity haha, the reel has never seen salt water. Had the reel 2 years and it is basically junk, I have Stradic 4000FI I use for branzino that stayed in the boat all season that are 15 years old and in better shape than this. Noisy, lots of play in handle meaning the gear clearance is too big or just approximative ( hold the rotor in one hand and turn the handle with the other), cheap insides. CI4, Vanford, SW are much better bang for the buck even at higher price tag. I have TP 4000 a real beauty inside and out. All the reviews saying a stradic as good as a stella is pure crap and a lie, a spheros sw as good as a stella don't spend your money on stella that is also pure crap and a lie..i had a complete set of spheros sw, right out the box some showed gear issues, misalignment, strange inconsistancies in the manufacturing that do not happen with saragosa (different factory? different quality control?) 5 months later and after being rinsed at every outing and often cleaned using penn reel cleaner (great product by the way) the paint was peeling of the rotor, reels had never been knocked, again pure crap. Managed to sell those for half their price after 6 months, no one was going to give me more than that. In opposition a 1k $ reel still resale 500 ten years later even with spare parts starting to fade. Buy one and keep it 10 years, the latest reel does not bring more fish.
I love my shimanos. But diawa does a few things better. I think if we could take a shimano and use a daiwa bail wire. Diawa handle. And the diawa gear setup. It would be the perfect reel.
You spend way too much time on how the reels look similar. I could not care less. I just want the best reel for the money. Also, the bail is not a thick wire on the Ballistic it is a hollow tube and is very light. I'll take the Procyon MQ over any of these for $50 less.
No. My Metaniums are just as smooth as my Steezs. Both are great companies, and I'd say they're on equal footing quality wise. Both companies produce the smoothest drags you can get in fishing reels....
@@tailwateroutfittersI agree Penn reels aren’t what they used to be (exception would be the Spinfisher/Slammer/Authority reels). i just meant they are the default saltwater brand. They don’t even really make freshwater stuff (Pure does now with how many brands they have bought).
I have zero experience with fishing.. sadly this video is close to useless.. doesn't explain differences nor what you get over 100$ reels.. like the most of videos..
I swore the title to this vid was best real for 200 bucks not “dude crying that Diawa is kicking shimanos butt in market share so im gunna complain they stole their color schemes”??? Who cares, there are certain colors that look good together (blue and gold, red and black etc) what’s it got to do with anything.
And wow would you look at that couple min in and wouldn’t you know both the Diawas are lighter with way more line capacity and more drag. Not to mention Mag seal… enough said
Just bought 2 stradic FM’s (2500 & 3000) from you guys and absolutely love them! Super smooth and light.
The shop is amazing btw, I’ll definitely be back 💯
Awesome man that's great to hear! Appreciate that!
only smooth when you have a fish on, not when youre reeling your jig back
Mine. Broke twice
@@tailwateroutfitters sir can I ask you wich model chose? I have a 7-30 gr rod so i`m definitely going with the 2500 one.
But I don`t know if I should buy the HG one or the normal one.
I fish in canary Islands in the coast and sometimes up in a Paddle board or kayak. Thanks in advance! I`d like to hearing from you guys
Good luck with the warranty
I prefer shimano simply because i can service them myself. Plus they have a worm gear for better line lay
I choose shimano and penn for the same reason, love the daiwa reels, just Don't want to own one
@@michaelfrankis When you own a Daiwa reel, then you'll understand certain shortcomings of Shimano reels. There are advantages and disadvantages so it comes down to personal preference. For big reels on big fish if we're talking about spin reels then it's Daiwa all the way. Overhead reels on big fish then Shimano but the Saltiga LD and Penn International reels are solid. On smaller spin and overhead reels I prefer Shimano due to the better line lay and drag sound, but the Daiwa Certate LT reels are probably the smoothest reels one can buy in any brand. Build quality is where Daiwa excels, along with better sealing (although mag seal), gear power and body rigidity due to monocoque design, line capacity & lighter weight (except for Saltiga LD reels) and technology, but Shimano excels in line lay, casting distance, mostly louder drag sound and smoothness even over a long period. I have all mid-high end reels from both companies. The 2020 Saltiga is the ultimate spin reel and 2013 Stella in 2nd place. I prefer the current Twinpower SW over the Certate SW only due to smoothness and weight, but the Exist LT and Certate LT reels are elite from other Shimano reels of that size range.
100% this is my reason for shimano
I have a BG MQ that I use for yellowtail and it is flawless. Get drag and power and super smooth. I had Stradics over the years and broke everyone and no longer even have one. The BG MQ worth a try.
I'm a Shimano fan but that composite frame just wreaks of cheap. Vanford should stay freshwater.
I’ve been fishing Shimano exclusively for 25 years. They’ve always been solid choices. Since then, I’ve moved to Florida where I’ve mostly been fishing inshore saltwater flats and the last two Stradics I bought are having issues. The newest one is seized up right after the one year mark (one year warranty) and the Stradic I bought about two years ago had a broken drag clicker. However, it is still functioning. For the first time I’m looking as replacing them with Daiwa.
Note- I do rinse and maintain my feels. All my reels look brand new.
A broken drag clicker spring is a 2 cent part.. could fail on a daiwa aswell.. I own a ballistic that broke inside.. i can turn the handle the rotor doesnt move.. now thats a faillure.. Daiwa is solid aswell.. just a bit more expensive overall.. and not better then the shimano.. so if u want to pay another 50 bucks to get a comparable daiwa go for it.
I just got a bass pro catalog in the mail I was so excited. Nostalgia trip
I’m sure it was amazing!
Great video! I still have the original Aero Stradic 2000. It's pearl white with a wooden handle and a aluminum spool and came with a spare. I've caught thousands of Bass on it. My P.B. 12.5 LB. Largemouth and believe it or not, a 140Lb. Tarpon (After a 3 hour fight). Now it's collecting dust because it weights 9.7oz. I have a few 18' Tatula's and 2 Stradic FL in the 1000 and 2500 sizes and just love my Stradics. I don't feel the need to get the FM. My FL''s are perfectly smooth with NO handle play.
I have an 89 wood handled Stradic. It was called the Aero back then. I broke my wooden single handle and replaced it with a Double handle Spirex! Still smooth like butter but the Anti Reverse gave out.
Shimanooooo … often imitated never duplicated 😎 great video boys. See y’all when that Twin Power FE comes!
Yessssirrr
I think Daiwa would have something to say about that. Daiwa's MQ reels can house bigger main gears in smaller reels which make them a lot more powerful and possess greater body rigidity. Also magseal technology is way beyond what Shimano offer even though it requires Daiwa servicing. The 2020 Saltiga is the finest spin reel ever made even though I highly rate the 2013 Stella.
@@slyarsenalMQ is daiwas way of saying they don't want customers to service their reels. That won't go well with saltwater guys. While an oversized gear, I don't believe the MQ's, at least lower ones, have a particularly robust gearing. If what the above reviewer says is true of the certate I certainly wouldn't want one. I'm easy on my reels and they don't require much for service. Once I can't find any prior MQ daiwas, I'll be going to Shimano. MQ is a bad direction, just think if all manufacturers start making all products non serviceable.
@@tbauer2521 I'm a Saltwater fisherman both off the rocks and boat. My gear is exposed to a lot of harsh conditions so I prefer Daiwa. You can buy tools to open MQ reels which I have and ferro fluid can be bought on ebay. It's just most people who don't know how to service their own Daiwa gear complain about it, but then again, sometimes I have no time so I just get it serviced for a small price. If you're a light fisherman then why are you even concerned about servicing MQ reels. You'd only need to have the magseals checked every 5 yrs, but by then I'm already upgrading to the next flagship reel. There are a few reels such as the 2013 Stella which I kept and didn't bother buying a 2019 because it's not better imo. In smaller reels I love MQ , especially when it comes to squidding amd popping lures. Overall fighting fish on MQ reels is so much more a pleasure due to hardly any flex. As much as I like working swim lures with my twinpower sw 6k, when it comes to fighting big fish the certate sw 6k's body is a lot more sturdy. There are advantages and disadvantages of both brands. Try slidebaiting with a shimano reel when you're casting over 120m with a 10oz weight, then try it with an MQ reel. You tell me which is easier on the retrieve when you need to check your bait. I guess a lot of people don't use a myriad of fishing techniques to understand what's actually better depending on the application
Alot of loyal japanese shimano enthusiasts are rating the 24 Certate LT to be a superior reel compared to the Twinpower. It's a pretty close match up, but once you have a spin of the new airdrive reels you'll notice the difference.
I switched to Shimano back when the Stradic ci4+ launched in 2016. I now own a Stradic FL and ci4+, Vanford, and a Sahara. Along the way I picked up a Daiwa BG and Ballistic LT. In my experience, Shimano makes better reels. The BG has been great but my Ballistic LT was a bit of a disappointment. Not as smooth as any of the Shimano reels and I’ve had the bail snap shut when casting multiple times. I’ve wanted to try out an MQ reel from Daiwa but seeing as it’s hard to service one yourself is a bit of a turn off. Daiwa doesn’t sell an MQ side plate tool and doesn’t sell magseal oil. You’d have to buy non authentic tools and oil from eBay. Not to mention how expensive the non authentic stuff is. Hopefully they begin to sell or include an MQ side plate tool with their reels and sell the magseal oil.
That’s a very helpful perspective on the two brands!
Obviously this guy is a local and hasn't been around. In Canada, Shimano spinning reels have been king of the hill for freshwater fishing for 30+ years.
Daiwa is not competition to Shimano in Europe as well for spinning or carp fishing as well :D they only hold ground on feeder fishing atm
Who tf are u and wtf is Canada stay in ur lane bud
The air bail on the Ballistic MQ might appear bigger but it's a hollowed bail, where the BG MQ has a solid bail. I wouldn't say the Air Bail is heavier. I feel you on the BG MQ being very solid, I fished the 3000 size BG MQ for a year and definitely love the big gear in a solid aluminum MQ housing. Love the content, you seem to know your stuff compare to a lot of other reel talkers on RUclips. Subscribed!
This is true, I should have mentioned that more clearly. Appreciate the comment!! $300 comparison is in the works!
@@tailwateroutfitters looking forward to it! do you guys do bait caster reviews?
They need to make the drag sound really loud, that way when you get a fish on everyone around you knows and gets jealous lol
I owned a stradic FC 4000.This was my most loved stradic ever.
I still run my Stradic FJ from around 2014 lol. I used it a lot for 2-3 seasons then stopped fishing for years till this year (2024). So it’s still pretty fresh. But I chose a Stradic due to getting an overwhelming majority of recommendations for it over anything else.
Shimano is owesome quality.. i use shimano biomaster 25 years play salt water now still smooth...no problem...💪💪💪
Wish you would have done the vanford in this video also. I picked one up for $189 after tax this fall clearance.
i have the daiwa ballistic mq lt 2500d-xh and it is an absolutely amasing reel. I took it to saltwater and it did not flinch, there is absolutely no "start resistance" which is great when you havw 6.2:1 ratio, and the reeling itself is super smooth.
Shimano stradic FH first year made was 2001, so it's 22 to 23 years old.I bought my first one in 2002 and still have it in excellent condition.
Even thought the ballistic mq bail wire is bigger, I think it’s hollow which is what promotes that easier startup .
Daiwa reels seem to “break in” and develop handle play pretty quickly.
That being said, I’ll probably always stick to Shimano for inshore applications. The Sustain is a killer reel if you are able and willing to pay up for it.
I have a review video of the Sustain C3000Hg on my channel
Love your video man before i buy something i just watch your video and i saved a lot of money 👍👍
Glad you liked it!
Got into the fishing world around the early 2000’s was told you couldn’t go wrong with a Penn and an Ugly Stick..
lol thats here in S.Florida where it was available from Walmart to Sports Authority in addition to Bass Pro and the local shops.
The new Tatula MQ for $199 is the best I have owned… yes I like it better than my Stradic
Stradic FM is top notch hands down. Versatile reel with incredible smooth action but with torque power for a rather light reel. Big Bang for your Buck. Won't regret purchasing it if you must.
You bought the new FM? I heard some complaints that the smoothness or it has a click upon reeling compared to the FLAny of this true?
@@InshorePursuitFL
It does indeed click more than the FL, however, not in the water. That is the only flaw that it has to my taste as well but it can be prevented with tweaking the drag I believe
I own several Shimano reels with the Stradic FM being one of them. The reason you sell so many Shimano reels is because they are just better. I have checked out a few of my friends Daiwa and Penn and they just don't compare. As a side note, if you're willing to spend a little over $400 and don't mind importing a reel from a Japanese retailer, the 2024 Shimano Vanquish is amazing and I absolutely love mine!
Stradic all day every day even on Sunday! I am a Shimano fanboy no denying it although historically I always equated "salt" to Penn and not Shimano. Daiwa makes great reels as well and I own a few including the basic BG which is a tremendous reel and value for what it is. In my humble opinion the sexiest reel ever made belongs to Daiwa and I don't own it. Wonder if the presenter knows what reel I am talking about?
I got a daiwa bg MQ 4k for about a year and caught a 30 no problem
That's great to hear!
How is that mq ? Any flex issues ? I tend to buy so many reels but daiwas LT reels are absolutely junk , their aluminum reels are fantastic. Haven't tried the mq yet but was told the mq material is updated to resolve / fix the lt reels flex issues and cheap quality feel issues
@@artificialslinger9730 they are a good reel for the 200$ dollar range i had mines for about a year and I leave in the keys so I always put it to work
Out of the top of my head the Ballistic has a larger looking bail but it’s called the air bail and it’s actually lighter than the smaller diameter bail in the BG.
True, that’s a good point
@@tailwateroutfitters also ballistic has the magseal and the BG doesn’t. Arguable as to much of a difference that really makes but it is something to note.
Fishing is funny...I went down the rabbit hole until I was spending 200 on a reel and even more on a rod, and at the end of the day....I still grab the $59 daiwa reel and $99 tatula rod combo I have 90% of the time. I just can't stay away from it.
Shimano is a world leader in gear manufacturing for bikes so they know gears better. Everyone will follow, copy them. That said I love Daiwa also.
Shimano is that good and reasonably priced, that no-one runs with them in bike gearing
The defacto standard of quality and price
@@grantsmith505 True 😊
love the butt hurt daiwa fanboys in the comments ahahaha its great. there is a good reason why almost everyone from all continents mainly fishes shimano
I would like to see Shimano Vanford vs DAIWA 21 emeraldas air lt3000s-cxh
I have the stradic 2500 & 3000 FM. And absolutely love them. The only thing i didnt like about them was the new drag washers. Switched them out for carbon fiber washer and 10x better now.
Im actually wondering how the daiwa mq reels are. I used alot of their reels too but sold majority of them. Their Aluminum reels are great but their LT reels are absolutely junk. I wouldnt tell a beginner to get an LT reel.
Any flex issues Or cheap ish feeling with the MQ ?
I’ve heard of quite a few people swapping those drag washers. As far as flex issues in the BG MQ, personally I can’t answer that, but it definitely doesn’t feel cheap to me. The ballistic did a little bit, but not the BG MQ. I’d have to pull on some fish to see if it flexes.
@@tailwateroutfitters that's great to hear. I had the Fuego lt , back Bay lt , ballistic lt , EXIST and the exist is the only one I've kept. But the ballistic and Fuego lts felt like I bought a toy reel would flex on 3lb bass 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
Definitely like to hear your guys thoughts once you guys get to use the mq
If youve fished an exist the only comparable to it or even better at lower price point are shimano vanquish and daiwa luvias airity.
Imo MQ series thats worth it are luvias airity, certate and saltigas. I like the feel, drag, castability, power, seal and weight of stradics, vanford and saragosa.
If you service your own reel go with shimanos. MQ you need special tool and some will require ferro fluid for mag seals..
@@artificialslinger9730LOL 😂 The Exist comes from a different planet!!! Asian portal for some amazing prices. The new SHIMANO Twin Power FE or DIAWA Certate? I'm on the fence.
@@TroyCote yup that's where I shop for all my Shimanos and daiwas. It's crazy how much U.S. stores increase the prices. Absolutely insane
That's definitely a tough call. I do tend to lean more Shimano then daiwa most the time. I do have a twin FE already pre ordered
Im sad my ci4+ had its gears melted and couldnt get it fixed. I hooked on a 42in red and after that it wouldnt even turn. I have a 4k stradic, 6k twin power SW, and 3k ballistic
Shimano/Daiwa -Ford/Chevy both excellent, just preference
Great video. Thank you for not being obnoxious. The best reel review I have seen.
Appreciate it! Super glad you enjoyed it!
My Pflueger Supreme XT costs $169, has a 6.2 gear ratio ,11 bearings, the same non existent 34" retrieve, a drag as good as any real on the market AND it still has an anti reverse lever. Why any one who actually fishes with spinning reals would buy one without an anti reverse lever is beyond me. The spinning reals greatest benefit is it's ability to back real went playing a big fish.
Ballistic MQ all day!!! air bail, air rotor, air drive, Mag seal. The MQ HAS larger gearing for more torque. Not even a competition🙌🎣🎣
Is the Ballistic a good option for freshwater bass fishing ?
Good comparison forgot to mention warranty and service turn around 👍
Just got a chinese reel thats insane quality so smooth the handle will start moving by itself 80$ feels like $500 reel no joke
The vanford is like 20-30 bucks more if u look around (more like 140 vs180 bucks).. If u want lighter get that.. otherwize the stradic is fine for the money.. I own like 4 stradics.. couple of vanfords.. couple ballistics..
Has anyone noticed the Shimano reel has significant rotor vibration when you turn the handle quickly. And the spool will shake at the same time. I went through 6 Vanford and 5 stradic FL and 2 FM, they all have the same problem. Design problem? Quality control? I don't know. It might not bother some people but it bothers me. It is like the the steering wheel vibrate when tires arent balanace.
Yes, i just got mine today...and i have the same issue, free play in the handle and noise when you reel...
The new stradics are supposedly rubbish from what I hear , but my old fa 4000 stradic is awesome and still going
I think the older Stradic Fj with the pearl white paint and chrome accents looked way nicer than these new all stainless colored stradics.
I would always choose a newer model over an older model .
Do u know where I can get a bail for the white stradic reel? Thanks
personally, shimano tends to be nicer looking... they have nice technology, look at the slow ocilation in the Stella FK, soon alot of their reels will have something unique. id have to fish both in order to compare.. but for now, i go with Stella. I have 3.
I use Daiwa Baitcaster reels , Shimano Spincaster reels, and of course Okuma rods!!. Salmon has no chance!
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The daiwa ballistic is my favorite spinning reel i own, thing kicks ass
Do you have a Stradic to compare it as well? Salt water or fresh water?
We’re to the point now where all of these reels will give you basically the same fishing experience. Pick the one you think looks the prettiest.
Agreed
Great video 😊 would like to se a comparison Abu ambassadeur beast/ shimano tranx 300 / daiwa tatula 300
Thats true that all companies copy the original one. In all products on earth
THANK YOU!
I only use shimano and diawa, I’ve never sold a shimano but sold many of my diawa’s 🤔
They both make killer reels, but i find myself leaning to shimano overall
@@tailwateroutfitters same
I ben fishing with Shimano for 40 years Shimano is the best u can't beat that brand 😊
Good morning, I live in Miami and I can't find a good place to repair or maintain my Shimano reels, if you could help me I would appreciate it.
Hey! I’m not sure in your area, but over here, Betts Fishing Center has a phenomenal service and repair center
Crooks and crooks coconut grove service every reels, friday to next friday turn over for most maintenance, that is if no major repair required. The guys there know their stuff. I was getting my saltiga's serviced there as well, I remember a 6500 saltiga's costs around 75 to do a major overhaul without replacing parts. They have a technician collecting the reels on fridays and dropping the ones from the previous week. I am ready to do my daiwa's myself as well now.
What about all the gomexus power knobs they're all so conveniently the same colors😂
That ballistic mq it’s 🔥🔥🔥 super smooth reel
Yes, its better than the Vanford
I just lost mine in the water out on my brand new kayak for the first time… gone… I’m beyond upset about it.. maybe can hook me up with a new discounted Shimano Stradic???
Nooo!!! Sign up for our mailing list on the website and you can get 10% off a Stradic! Or anything else you like
Hey, what do you think about Shimano Vanford versus the Daiwa Ballistic MQ LT for an all-rounder. I am looking to purchase something that is best in both worlds.
Personally, I would grab the Vanford. I think it feels better, and the big bail wire on the ballistic looks a little goofy to me
Lets be realistic Shimano is feeling the heat from Daiwa there both great reels but as far as smoothness it's Daiwa for me
@@1974DAVIDC daiwa is getting better but theres no heat on Shimano right now. Daiwas aluminum reels are fantastic, their lt reels are junk. Havent got to try the mq reels yet but looking for to trying them. Hoping they got the frame flex issues solved.
@@tailwateroutfitters I have had 6 Vanfords. Sold them all but 3. I kept both my 2000s and my 500. Sold both my 3000s and 2500. I honestly don't like the material the Vanford is made from. The old Stradic ci4s to me had a more durable and reliable material for their frames.
Id honestly have them bump up to the sustain. It's about 1oz heavier then the Vanford but the frame is much better and don't have the " cheap " feeling to it
@@artificialslinger9730 Its the exact same material... Ci4+
how is the handleplay and knobplay in the ballistic, the vanford is to much handlearm play but solid knob.. fm wiggly handlerarm play and knobplay.. hated vanford (was nice first month but all 4of mine broke down under a year..) ballistic or stradic fm( hand put 2 bearings in the knob i) 2500 size for a megabass p5 windbuster destroyer.. fishing perch in sweden..want the vanquish but dont have that kind of cash.. so its down to ballistic or the fm.. caldia seems nice BUT T HANDLE KNOB NOOOO THANKS
The ballistic feels pretty tight, but still has a slight play. It's definitely tighter than the 2020 Vanford. Very similar in that aspect to the stradic fm
I saw some reviews that the new FM is not as smooth out of the box and has a ticking noise once per revolution or something. Any truth to this?
Bad eggs are possible, but I’ve never noticed that in any of the hundreds we’ve sold.
Yes, it have sounds when you reel, also free play on handle... it is not as "smooth" as people say... i have daiwa reels and they are way smoother... than this.
@@chemareasalbaticiei interesting because I have the FL and it’s the smoothest reel I have ever felt. Have you cranked the FL?
@@InshorePursuitFL no, this is my first shimano reel... and i like daiwa better because is way smoother when you reel, on FM you feel that friction and hearing the noise when reel it.
@@chemareasalbaticieivery interesting I wonder if you would feel the same with the FL which I found to be extremely smooth. Which Daiwa reel do you typically fish and prefer
the shimano nasci is the best budget spinner ive owned
What about Penn?
Carnegie said never be the one who invents a thing. Be the one who best markets the thing. He was the Elon Musk of his day. However, Shimano seems able to do both and with internet speed turnaround times it looks like that is the best strategy for putting gizmos in a box and selling them. Also Shimano has a huge r&d capacity due to their bicycle parts business where they command the market as well.
Did you ever notice how much alike Ford, GM, Dodge, Toyota, and Hyundai cars and trucks look alike? That’s not an accident.
The stradic is amazing.
Prefer Shimano spin and Daiwa bc.
Always liked daiwa better. Anytime I tried another brand I always ended up going back to daiwa.
Hej.Jestem z Polski nie mówię po angielsku właśnie chcę zakupic stradic 2000 lub daiwa Baliistic który jest lepszy według Ciebie?
Czesc on mowi ze Daiwa i Stradic to jego wybur ale opstaje za Stradick .KOLEGO JAK MASZ OKAZIE KUP SOBIE DAIWA TATULA MQ LT I ZOBACZYSZ ZE TO JEST NAJLEPSZY WYBUR .POZDRAWIAM
Your a Shimano fanboy bro but it’s ok I still got luv for u ha love the vids man
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I think it's so funny, The old Mustang vs Camaro!!! They both make incredible reels, I've used a ton of reels from both companies over 40+ years of fishing and honestly I can't choose a better brand. They're both covering all price points and the slower start up of the Shimanos feel better to me. More solid, more line manageable if that even makes sense. My favorite spinning reel is Still my 2006 Quantum pti 30. My father passed away and left it to me, and yes it's part of it, but go on tackle tours archives and it still might be the highest scoring reel ever!
I bought so many Daiwa over the years but always end up selling them away.
No one makes a quality reel like Daiwa, I mean even there low end reels are top notch imo.
I think all new daiwas have initially smoother feel over the shimanos, its the larger gear teeth more contact with the pinion gear, my bg feels as free spinning as my stradic fl but i still think shimano has the better gear material and design over time for sure, it feels more connected especially under heavy load my 08 and 13 stellas feel unusually smooth now after a few seasons and basic service. And they super easy ro service, daiwa makes it hassle to do basic service which is a shit business strategy. Shimano is just the gold standard just make sure you dont overpay tho half of shimanos lineup is redundant just so they can sell more reels every year unfortunately, the new stellas and twin powers dont hold a candle to the certate let alone the new saltiga but saragosa, stradic, vanford thunnus ci4 are class leading beasts and all you will ever need for 99% of people unless ur chasing monsters consistently then buy a used stella 2013 or new saltiga despite the service issue. Daiwa catalina and isla is underrated reel, but if you broke the fin nor lethal 100 is an unusually overbuilt boat reelz shit has insane gears and drag along with design that can hold that much drag. Also Skip the bg mq and saltist mq its basicly just a sealed bg. The regular bg does everything th same if you need sealing buy a saragosa
you know egg beaters have not seen much technology leaps when the main talking point is color schemes for 5 min of the review.
I have 25 yo Stratics no Diawa has ever made it 10.
I have 150-200$
Which is best for surf spinning reel
I will use real cut small fish or shrimps or calamari cut small pieces
And looking for long distance
I have daiwa bg60 it said Black Gold BG20 Heavy Action Saltwater Spinning reel
3 bearings Stainless Steel Ball Bearing,/ 4.7:1 gear ratio / 21.7 max drag ,
Its old so i was thinking maybe the reels are better
In that price, I would chose the Shimano Spheros SW
@@tailwateroutfitters is it for thro bait so far from the beach/shore ?
@@tailwateroutfitters will watch review ^^ i only have and tried daiwa bg60 bought it 2012 😂 later i knew daiwa good brand and can give to grand grand grand son
@@purplefurture6960 Yep
So much emphasis on color choice, I forgot that blue, silver and red was strictly for Shimano. No one else can use them lol, literally the most basic color choices for reels.
Shimano into salt? Daiwa into bass? I guess all my Coastal's aren't serious.... Where's the funny fat guy? At least he spoke truth. By the way the first iteration of the Ballistic was out years before the Vanford and one year before the CI4's that turned pink after a week's worth of sun.
Seems like you didn’t watch the whole video… I mentioned some of Daiwa’s saltwater specific reels. I also mentioned the ballistic was out before the vanford… but I can’t remember exactly when the ci4 and ballistic first came out
I have just opened s stradic 5000FM and found it very disappointing. All the gear used to turn the worm shaft are plastic, the main gear bearings are shot, that's the reason most Stradic FM sound as if something was touching, then the spool shaft end piece, that aluminum knuckle dragging on the worm gear is completely corroded and falling in pieces on mine, just bad aluminum can't resist humidity haha, the reel has never seen salt water. Had the reel 2 years and it is basically junk, I have Stradic 4000FI I use for branzino that stayed in the boat all season that are 15 years old and in better shape than this. Noisy, lots of play in handle meaning the gear clearance is too big or just approximative ( hold the rotor in one hand and turn the handle with the other), cheap insides. CI4, Vanford, SW are much better bang for the buck even at higher price tag. I have TP 4000 a real beauty inside and out. All the reviews saying a stradic as good as a stella is pure crap and a lie, a spheros sw as good as a stella don't spend your money on stella that is also pure crap and a lie..i had a complete set of spheros sw, right out the box some showed gear issues, misalignment, strange inconsistancies in the manufacturing that do not happen with saragosa (different factory? different quality control?) 5 months later and after being rinsed at every outing and often cleaned using penn reel cleaner (great product by the way) the paint was peeling of the rotor, reels had never been knocked, again pure crap. Managed to sell those for half their price after 6 months, no one was going to give me more than that. In opposition a 1k $ reel still resale 500 ten years later even with spare parts starting to fade. Buy one and keep it 10 years, the latest reel does not bring more fish.
I love my shimanos. But diawa does a few things better. I think if we could take a shimano and use a daiwa bail wire. Diawa handle. And the diawa gear setup. It would be the perfect reel.
You spend way too much time on how the reels look similar. I could not care less. I just want the best reel for the money. Also, the bail is not a thick wire on the Ballistic it is a hollow tube and is very light. I'll take the Procyon MQ over any of these for $50 less.
thanks for your opinion!
Fish don't care what kind of rod or reel you have. Get bite!
the bail on the daiwas is hollow.
Shimano = Louis Vuitton 🗣️
Daiwa = Walmart💀
You sell more Stradics because there are so many Shimano fanboys.
You was payed by shimano, diawa makes a better reel then them you take the bg second and the ballistic last come on !!??
Na, I’ve never been paid to make content. We sell these and just make content to help people decide which gear to buy!
Shimano fanboy deluxe…
We like the other guy on your channel
Shimano did it first Daiwa did it better
Blasphemy!
Daiwa all day...can't beat the certate.
They are now selling a 24 certate, but that's a lot more expensive.
@@Corza10 it really feels like twice the reel though
Shimano still does it better
You can spend your money all the time about reel
FL > FM
Except Daiwa blows Shimano out of the water for reel quality on most of their reels. Penn is default for saltwater by the way. That’s all they do.
Yea, but they’re not even close to the quality that they used to be. Pure fishing is hurting bad
@@tailwateroutfitters100% Penn isn’t close to Shimano / Daiwa in quality or design
No. My Metaniums are just as smooth as my Steezs. Both are great companies, and I'd say they're on equal footing quality wise. Both companies produce the smoothest drags you can get in fishing reels....
@@tailwateroutfittersI agree Penn reels aren’t what they used to be (exception would be the Spinfisher/Slammer/Authority reels). i just meant they are the default saltwater brand. They don’t even really make freshwater stuff (Pure does now with how many brands they have bought).
tell me you know nothing about reels without telling me you know nothing about reels 😂
I have zero experience with fishing.. sadly this video is close to useless.. doesn't explain differences nor what you get over 100$ reels.. like the most of videos..
Dumb. Thicker does not equal heavier. Ballistic bail is lighter than the other two.
Fanboy lol
For sure
Loll Shimano sucks!!! Go Daiwa you'll get the same with the legalis for a hundred dollars!
I swore the title to this vid was best real for 200 bucks not “dude crying that Diawa is kicking shimanos butt in market share so im gunna complain they stole their color schemes”??? Who cares, there are certain colors that look good together (blue and gold, red and black etc) what’s it got to do with anything.
And wow would you look at that couple min in and wouldn’t you know both the Diawas are lighter with way more line capacity and more drag. Not to mention Mag seal… enough said
Imagine crying in a comment about a reel. Everyone has their own opinions and preference, just like yourself. Thanks for the laugh though…😂😂😂