Quit Call of Duty if you don't like SBMM

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @Bookofhumanity
    @Bookofhumanity 8 месяцев назад +21

    This was a hard watch

  • @salsaidy3307
    @salsaidy3307 8 месяцев назад +31

    We are quitting, its people like you who keep the game this way, defending activation is absolutely crazy

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад +2

      thats great i hope you found cool games without sbmm that you enjoy

    • @salsaidy3307
      @salsaidy3307 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@Jaynesslessly you are defending a $70 DLC, we are cooked

    • @salsaidy3307
      @salsaidy3307 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@Jaynesslessly nvm I just looked at your channel, I can see why

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@salsaidy3307 im defending it by telling people to stop buying and playing it?

    • @balencix1575
      @balencix1575 8 месяцев назад

      @@salsaidy3307gacha game player😭😭😭 no wonder he’s use to the anal pounding

  • @Avalangard
    @Avalangard 8 месяцев назад +9

    Why even have ranked then if we have SBMM. In league if you play a normal game the skill level is highly varied and the games are still enjoyable. Its because people are not trying their hardest since they know their opponents aren't tryhards and the stakes are very low. In CoD SBMM you are put against the biggest tryhards over and over again and get absolutely stomped because they are playing the most meta weapon and playing like their family is held hostage. You are probably a bad player who gets put into very easy lobbies

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад +1

      i mean the gameplay is right there and a run down of recent match history, you can decide whether im bad or not

    • @fr0ntend
      @fr0ntend 8 месяцев назад +1

      Same with rocket league. SBMM makes no sense in a world where ranked modes exist. In rocket league if you want a relaxing match with your friends, you queue a normal game. If you want tough opponents and to really try your hardest, you go in ranked.

  • @L2Ngaming
    @L2Ngaming 8 месяцев назад +8

    Your conclusion sums it up. If they don't like what COD has become, please have the balls to move on and play something else, forever...

  • @fahed2544
    @fahed2544 8 месяцев назад +5

    As a guy who used to buy cod every year back in xbox360, I can tell you why cod sucks now. It’s over complicated, they overdid the simple design, it’s overpriced, the client is needlessly complex and chaotic, and the player-base is weak for many cod games and game modes. COD excelled as an arcade shooter, zombies was fun too, but they overdid it way too much. CSGO is simple as hell and it’s still going strong. I don’t really play fps games anymore but if cod was good I’d definitely pop on once in a while

    • @Happyness117
      @Happyness117 8 месяцев назад

      Your old dude

    • @fahed2544
      @fahed2544 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Happyness117 everyone grows up, but unfortunately for you, not everyone grows smart :(

  • @SOFUBIS
    @SOFUBIS 8 месяцев назад +7

    Made it six minutes in and this video is already hurting my brain with how strawmanned it is. Maybe the rest of the video covers it, but I'm not giving the watchtime with how disingenuous the video has started out. EOMM has been the standard for years, since at least Cold War, we haven't had true SBMM in public matches for a good while now, so the fact that you're tackling a point that's already public knowledge as a "gotcha" is wild. Again, not giving the watch time, but I figure you go on to mention how it's actually EOMM now and lay into that issue, which is ultimately just arguing semantics when everyone is describing the issue exactly the same, just using the incorrect name.
    If my assumption happens to be wrong, then cool, maybe you did put some critical thought into the video, but my point how strawmanned the opening is still stands.

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад +1

      i only used it as a "gotcha" because theres people in these comments right this moment telling me every match feels like a sweaty ranked match despite the games not having true sbmm so despite being public knowledge, most people are still uninformed about the inner workings of the algorithm

    • @domzombie9946
      @domzombie9946 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Jaynesslessly people complaining about every match feeling like a sweating ranked match is not about people being misinformed. It shows that regardless if it is what you describe as "not having true sbmm", it is a flawed system that has driven people to become frustrated with COD. Trying to redefine the terms and saying something to the effect of "it isn't an issue with the game, you guys are just misinformed about what makes match making" does not suffice as an adequate answer to more and more people coming to the conclusion that casual COD does not feel as good as it could or did in the past.

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      ​@@domzombie9946 "feeling not as good" is incredibly subjective and not statistically quantifiable. sales and player retention metrics are consistently contradicting the narrative that games with sbmm are shedding players are dying

    • @domzombie9946
      @domzombie9946 8 месяцев назад

      @Jaynesslessly don't have time to sit around on youtube comments so to be brief i never speculated on the active player count or lifespan of any game in my statements.

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      @@domzombie9946 you didnt, but those metrics are evidence that despite the mass complaints the games are as commercially succesful as ever, which means that their systems are succesful at growing their games when the community likes to imply the opposite

  • @iRegGun9
    @iRegGun9 8 месяцев назад +2

    One of the main issues with SBMM (for me at least) is the time and connection part of it. Very interesting to me that you defend this SBMM system at all. When you consistently do well in a game like MW3 2023, you will eventually and gradually start getting worse queues for matches and you will eventually and gradually get a poorer connection. This is proven by plenty enough people that I don’t need to argue its validity. When I’m playing with my friends and we are doing very well..we shouldn’t end up with 3-4 minute queue times to get put in lobbies with people in Ireland and UK. We are from the east coast of the U.S. btw. But that’s exactly the type of thing that can, and does sometimes, occur. That is absolutely not okay and that absolutely never used to happen in CoD before a specific point in time. I’ve been playing this series since 2007 and I don’t play too much anymore because of these issues. I’m not interesting in being in a fairly even match if I have 100-150ms ping on top of ridiculous queue times. If the algorithm is so worried about all of these statistical factors that I have to have shit ping against people in Ireland because they can’t find me a suitable lobby in this whole country..that sounds an awful lot like a system that shouldn’t be in a game that they want people to have fun with. Because it’s not fun. I think a lot of people would agree with me or at least share similar frustrations. But I’ll just stick to these great single player games that keep coming out

  • @eastcoasthandle
    @eastcoasthandle 8 месяцев назад

    Hey, I want to thank you for providing the data explaining why and how you are "matched" with other players.
    This explanation does put credence that the term Skill Based Matchmaking is not wholly correct based on how they are
    matching you in lobbies with other players.

  • @iamGLOP
    @iamGLOP 8 месяцев назад +1

    sbmmoff has made this game feel like old cod lobbies. (ranked doesnt work, and Battle royal is iffy, the big map. multiplayer and resurgence is golden tho) i highly recommend

  • @ogGILMOURRR
    @ogGILMOURRR 8 месяцев назад +8

    Why does RUclips recommended these crusty room temperature IQ videos to me
    “I like call of duty and I’m tired of people complaining about my favorite whittle video game so I’m gonna make a 30 minute video complaining about them complaining because they complain too much” lol
    It’s almost like people have opinions on their own channels or something 🤷‍♂️

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      its cool to complain and have opinions, its lame as hell to complain based on uneducated and sensational popular narratives that are factually incorrect which harms the over all discourse

    • @ogGILMOURRR
      @ogGILMOURRR 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Jaynesslessly what is uneducated about it?
      Your definition of skill based matchmaking is its “skill”
      You said nothing we don’t already know and it sounds like you don’t even know how it fully works.
      And clearly it’s not cool to you for people to have opinions on a game they purchased on their own channels.
      People feel in love with cod before sbmm. They still love the formula but hate the predatory matchmaking in it. It’s not rocket science my guy

    • @OffSich
      @OffSich 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Jaynesslessly Bro we know Sbmm\Eomm is and has been ruining the game and other games in general. The game literally punishes u for not being a shitter. my bullets turn to marshmallows I die when I shoot first and dont miss a bullet. its already been proven the gamer is rigged. Hell they even have patents out for game manipulation etc. Dont need to go on....

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@ogGILMOURRRI think your the one that's undereducated! 🤡

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@JaynesslesslyDon't take him to seriously he's the same guy who lied one time during MWII he claimed Activision removed a core feature in that game which ofc is the kill cam the Feature is still in the game and it is still in MW3 so he did not backtrack made another video correcting himself he just doesn't care about being honest he cares about being a clone of blametruth so he can get views and subs he is a joke like the rest of them who produce the same kind of mediocre garbage every year! they're videos are of no substance and zero Nuance!

  • @motox20
    @motox20 8 месяцев назад +1

    The problem here is 2 fold, thinking you're the smartest person in the room and the condescending and rude attitude. No one thinks it works the way you think they do, of course it's based on more than skill, it's all people talk about. Talking down to people won't get them on your side, even if you make good points it won't matter. But you don't, so it doesn't...

  • @WeShibby
    @WeShibby 8 месяцев назад +4

    bad take

  • @Happyness117
    @Happyness117 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dude your great keep up the Great Work I absolutely hate it when old people bitch and whine about Sbmm when they are just horrible at the same lmao. Very interesting video btw love to see it.

  • @knuckleheadmcspazatron7575
    @knuckleheadmcspazatron7575 8 месяцев назад +4

    Most of us HAVE quit already. I am just frustrated because IW & Activision continue to hoodwink players into believing that this system isn’t extremely predatory. The system is designed to keep you addicted by forcing outcomes, and once you realize that it just takes the fun out of the game. Why play when nothing you do ever matters or makes a difference?
    Also, how can you defend a multi-billion dollar corporation that charges over $20 for an in-game cosmetic on a $70 title? That’s next level d* riding for an extremely predatory corporation lol

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      That's what you people say your vision of what cod matchmaking should be already exists the noobs have always been placed in lobbies with people of higher skill level whether if its they are reverse boosting or not the matchmaking system has not changed since than! this mentality of today with the hardcore playerbase is just them coping for no reason the youtubers do it for attention to revive they're already dying channels! now its about just hating cod not being nuanced about how to qritique cod every year its just the same garbage!

  • @theorangeonion381
    @theorangeonion381 8 месяцев назад +4

    glad somebody finally said it.. if you dont like it then dont play it.

    • @Happyness117
      @Happyness117 8 месяцев назад

      Yay your actually smart lol

  • @L2Ngaming
    @L2Ngaming 8 месяцев назад +2

    This guy makes a video from a different prospective saying to stop buying the game if dont like it
    Talks about Sbmm,
    shows evidence that sbmm is NOT technically what it is from a source from EAce
    He gets bombarded by a bunch of people who hates COD(probably still bought MWIII anyway) . Even some content creator joined the bashing.
    It's crazy to me.
    It's sums up the COD community : bashed the game and whoever disagrees
    Pathetic.. Last time looking at the comments section so dont expect a reply from me. Deuces..

  • @ajcool_3806
    @ajcool_3806 8 месяцев назад +1

    guy spent so much time researching to be wrong still

  • @s2e902
    @s2e902 8 месяцев назад

    Its sad that this topic isn’t ever going to reach casuals

  • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
    @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

    its funny that the same cod youtubers who they're entire career is hating everything call of duty say that they want to advocate to protect bad players while in the same note reverse boosting to have a good time thats actually sad af nobody should reverse boost! *Coulgh* blametruth!

  • @Awksi
    @Awksi 8 месяцев назад +3

    I already quit call of duty lmao, that shit is TRASH

    • @Kev_Intense
      @Kev_Intense 8 месяцев назад +1

      And yet here you are, watching a video about it and then commenting to tell all of us that you've quit.

    • @isopropyltoxicity
      @isopropyltoxicity 8 месяцев назад

      I literally only play the Xbox 360 cods, haven't touched a game pass bo2 except bo3 for zombies in a long time

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      News flash nobody cares that you quit cod! 😂

    • @Awksi
      @Awksi 8 месяцев назад

      @@Kev_Intense I only clicked on the video to comment that cod is trash. I watched less than 30 seconds of the actual video lmao. Defending sbmm is hilarious to me, something I could never take seriously. Btw I left the comment as a response to the video’s title, not to brag about quitting cod or something lmao. Its a tiny yt channel so I only thought the creator would read the comment.

    • @Awksi
      @Awksi 8 месяцев назад

      @@TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 That’s not the point bozo. The point of my comment is that I don’t care about the creators argument. He’s titled the video “Quit COD if you don’t like SBMM” so I commented to say I already did, I don’t respect him enough to even listen to his argument. People that defend these dogshit triple A games are less than zoo animals to me.

  • @6lammer
    @6lammer 8 месяцев назад

    The community needs to learn how to take an L. I get called a cheater daily because I killed someone in Warzone. When I solo queue my teammates call cheats constantly after pushing a 1v4 with two plates. Sometimes you lose. Sometimes you do something stupid and fuck yourself over. Get used to it. I did.

  • @golevka
    @golevka 8 месяцев назад

    i wish everything wasn't a stupid fucking acronym

  • @balencix1575
    @balencix1575 8 месяцев назад

    i disagree with most of what you said but mostly that there was a lobby shopping culture, normal people (not cc) just played and if we got a good lobby stayed in it

  • @papasalvo
    @papasalvo 8 месяцев назад

    I'm not a COD player or a COD fan at all but can we just talk about the fact that these games have had a SBMM system for over a decade at this point and even before it was effectively known as SBMM there was always a matchmaking system it was never a free for all.
    No one knows what a SBMM free game actually looks/feels like and even if u want to call that proto SBMM a SBMM free game THAT WAS OBER A DECADE AGO there is no actual way u perfectly remember that shit it's all nostalgia goggles.
    More importantly again they have been using this over a decade at this point there is no amount of complaining that will get then to stop so why the hell do people still complain as if this is something new and unexpected

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      Its the content creators you gotta blame spreading false narratives about when Sbmm first existed blaming how bad they are on devs and Everyone else! they sound like wingsofredemption when he plays Rainbowsixe blame everyone else but your skill they will be upset over cod being to hard for them than if you disagree with they're stupidity they will tell you you Suck off activision and say your first cod was probably MW19 and that they would beat you in a game that they not only hate but they are not good at! its honestly depressing!

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      i agree, theres always this chase for "wow wish COD was like the good old ones again" when objectively something like OG mw2 was horrendous balance wise . if that game released today people would be complaining about sbmm matching them vs commando pro+noob tube sweats

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@Jaynesslessly I call that selective outrage its the nostalgia lense they have that they refuse to get rid of

  • @malikelliott8652
    @malikelliott8652 8 месяцев назад

    Responding to the title "pleeease".... i quit my all time favorite game gears of war because the devs and community was fucking up the core game. You can do it too. Lmfao. Streamers are literally helping devs kill games and collecting the money by playing something they dont like and more.

  • @NoodlesRuns
    @NoodlesRuns 8 месяцев назад

    Definitely doesn't seem fair to use data from a different game three years removed. Also how can you say "COD's matchmaking doesn't [heavily base on skill]" when at 6:47 you're showing the charts indicating a correlation? There are plenty of other valid arguments to take, such as "People have years of practice playing so the average skill is up" or "PC accessibility and popularity has increased". I can follow the anti-smurf argument, as someone who smurfs in CS it definitely is frustrating for others so I'm encouraging my friends to play unranked with me, but the problem is that playing in harder lobbies doesn't feel like a reward, it feels like a punishment in part due to just the volatility of game-to-game performance.

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      cold war is the last game where player data can be extracted so its impossible to do data collection in more recent games and its assumed they still use the same system. volatility is what people ask for when they disavow sbmm because their core argument is that "every match is sweaty i want randomness", so despite there being "skill influences", theres still high volatility in opponent and teammate skill, which emulates the "random" lobbies people loved so much in older games

  • @colbygargiulo101
    @colbygargiulo101 8 месяцев назад

    ranked play is supposed to be sbmm why put it in public’s

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      ranked play doesnt use sbmm's algorithm, i talked about it in the video. not to mention ranked is basically a different game with 90% of core content banned

    • @colbygargiulo101
      @colbygargiulo101 8 месяцев назад

      @@Jaynesslessly okay but for any normal person playing ranked it feels exactly like skill based match making. Lowest level bronze be carrying the higher levels some how. why is everyone good now. Every single game is a struggle to win in ranked or public now. just not fun. if your super competitive all around the get at it

  • @OffSich
    @OffSich 8 месяцев назад +2

    Meat riding Activision like ur getting paid for free is crazy. Hows the boot taste?

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад +2

      i mean i literally said that people should stop supporting activision if they dont like what they are doing to the games lmao, i'd love to see their sales plummet but people keep buying the games

    • @ninesixworm
      @ninesixworm 8 месяцев назад +1

      you are also people though

    • @L2Ngaming
      @L2Ngaming 8 месяцев назад +2

      why whenever someone disagrees with someone, that person brings up the " oh you're a fanboy" ?
      So bashing COD is cool but if someone disagrees, oh hes being paid?
      Childish behavior

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@L2Ngamingi alwaus get told that im getting paid by Activision if i agree with any dumb argument they make! they always claim cod is dying for the past decade and cod is still going even if the player numbers go up and down it does not mean that cod is somehow dying it just means a lot of ppl leave and return thats just like any game in existance! now are there other games that have higher player numbers than games like cod? of course but thats not a point to prove that people are leaving cod! thats such a dumb argument to make with almost zero proof!

    • @Happyness117
      @Happyness117 8 месяцев назад

      @@L2Ngamingyeah some people are just absolute idiots

  • @brainsmasher4205
    @brainsmasher4205 8 месяцев назад +4

    And what about turning a corner and your bullets all of the sudden turn into marshmallows? Or the fact that in any other game I run a 10-20 ping but cod I’m 100-200ping? You need to open your eyes. We are more mad about the gameplay manipulation than anything else!! And if you don’t think that’s real then you’re too slow to see it!!!

    • @Jaynesslessly
      @Jaynesslessly  8 месяцев назад

      its possible that connectivity is a legitimate issue, i don't know why we are blaming match making for that tho when the recorded data proves the difference is marginal between skill levels. maybe theyd actually improve servers and connectivity if people complained about that instead of sbmm

    • @brainsmasher4205
      @brainsmasher4205 8 месяцев назад

      @@Jaynesslessly you are completely blind. They mess with your ping to manipulate your gameplay. COD is the only game where one match I have 150ping and then 50 ping on the next. It even say in their blog post about sbmm that there goal is to make you win just enough so you want to keep playing. The outcome of the matches are determined before you even start the match.
      You are a sheep or your blind!

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@brainsmasher4205isn't that how matchmaking works?

    • @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277
      @TheRealNotaFortnitegamer277 8 месяцев назад

      @@brainsmasher4205your explaining what the vast majority of people want a matchmaking system the puts you in lobbies based on varied skill level!