I had to blur multiple parts of the video and cut up (and ruin) the outro for copyright reasons. So, apologies to those seeing this video after the pinning of this comment. Hope y'all understand. Cya in the next video.
And let's not forget his performance in relief of injured Brady in the 2001 AFC Championship. They might not have made the superbowl without Bledsoe. Maybe not the way he expected to earn a championship ring, but he still played an important part that year.
@@TexasNationalist1836 wasn’t happy about losing his starting position while being the 100 million dollar arm, but he handled it with class. And like the other comment said, he really did finish that afc championship game.
@@johnchedsey1306 absolutely. This is going to sound stupid but it wasn’t until 2004 that I really believed in Brady. The Patriot missile was my favorite player, I still have his jersey and signature on my wall next to Brady’s.
@@TexasNationalist1836 There's some conflicted feelings in general. Bledsoe isnt super happy that his legacy is tied to being the guy before Brady, and naturally as a competitor and starter he has his pride which probably inspired at least a touch of jealousy. But he handled it like a professional by and large.
I still find it funny the Dolphins balked on Brees because of his injury but saw no issue going for Daunte Culpepper while he was still rehabbing a shredded knee.
Eh when Brees was going through it it was his throwing shoulder I believe. Knee injuries are no joke but you can recover. Throwing arm injury you might never be the same (spoiler, he was even better lol)
@@Radel623 Dude had messed up three ligaments in his knee so even by the standards of knee injuries that was a bad one, especially for a QB whose mobility was supposed to be one of his best assets.
I still find the Watson trade the single worst trade for a QB ever. They gave him record money, record guaranteed money, and when he isn't injured he forgot how to play ball. Cleveland could have done so much more with those draft picks. Epic fail on their part.
They also forced Baker Mayfield ( who lead them to their first playoff win in decades) to continue playing while he had a shoulder injury, and said he wasn’t a winner. Talk about a Browns move.
Even if Deshaun wasn't a predator, that trade would still be the worst in NFL history. The Browns gave Patrick Mahomes money to a guy who's barely a third stringer right now.
@@KTOfootball Maybe you should pay attention to the details and get it right. This kind of sloppy research is exactly why I'm not subscribed to you. Be better and stop spreading lies.
For those who are interested. The pick Denver for Jay Cutler received turned into Robert Ayers and Richard Quinn who they traded up for in 2009. Ayers was a rotational DE for 9 seasons, Quinn was a TE who played on special teams and was out of the league in three years. The bears pick at 84 the Steelers picked WR Mike Wallace who played for 10 years and had one pro bowl. In the 2010 draft Denver conducted a series of trades Which resulted in Philadelphia getting Brandon Graham, Seattle getting Earl Thomas, Denver got Demaryius Thomas, Dallas getting Dez Bryant, and New England getting Devin McCourty.
I'm an Eagles fan and I thought about going to see them play the Browns a couple weeks ago. I didn't because I hate Watson so much. He literally shouldn't be allowed to play, and I'm glad he physically can't right now
The picture at 23:15 is so unexpectedly funny. Jimmy G totally disheartened and lost in thoughts and the doctor(?) next to him is smiling like he’s at Sears getting family photos or something lol
@@tokivikerness8863 I think people forgot about how bad the Watson trade was for a minute, when Russ got traded to the Steelers with all that dead cap against Denver. Now with the recent Watson injury, everyone is back to talking about how that franchise is basically ruined for at least 4 or 5 years
Broncos are fortunate that Sean Payton and Bo Nix so far look promising. The dead cap however will always keep them a year behind from filling out the roster.
You and Flemlo are by far my favorite football channels. You do an amazing job of keeping me interested and I always watch the whole video!! Thank you for your guys hard work
The Alex Smith trade had a lot of positive impact for the Chiefs. He helped stable the franchise and mentor the next franchise QB that eventually turned into the dynasty. It worked out great for Smith but even better for the Chiefs
It’s such a trip seeing how grainy those Favre clips are. I remember watching those games as a kid and now they just seem like ancient history. Makes you feel old…
You should never trade high picks for a QB when you dont have the right Coaching Staff and surroundings to help him out. Thats why Only Stafford and Goff worked.
The thing is they usually think making these trades are a good idea in the first place because they think they already have that foundation. One QB away and all that jazz. Hell when Goff went to Detroit we thought that was where his career was going to die.
@@SuperMurray2009 the sample size for both Lance and Purdy indicated that Purdy was inarguably better than Lance at that point. Not really much point in keeping Lance after that.
The Lions didn’t want to move on from Stafford, coach Campbell & Holmes met with him and gave him the choice and he chose to leave. He was close to being a Niner too
Moral of the story: If the Eagles are offering up a QB, just say no. I know the video didn't cover Kevin Kolb or AJ Whathisname, but they always seemed to be on the good end of QB trades
I can only imagine what McNabb could have done with decent receivers. Throwing to guys like Pinkston, Thrash and FredEx really hampered his career. Outside of one season of TO McNabb had next to no help.
oh please....brady had moss but after him he had a bunch of nobodys and cast offs. mcnabb was traded to washington and couldnt even win the backup job.
@@graysonmichael8335 Wes Welker sure is noone Edelman never made a pro bowl so despite his SB mvp is still noone Gronk is just the best TE ever, but he doesn't rly count because hes not a reciever Yeah good point, Brady had no good recievers ever...
@zaneseibert thats debateable. maclin was an excellent receiver...djax was ok. but i agree branch was a very very good receiver. can you explain how we traded mcnabb, our starter...to the redskins and not only could he not win the starter job, but he couldnt win the backup job either. he was the THIRD STRING qb. from our starter one year, to the redskins emergency qb the next. if andy reid didnt draft mcnabb, and commit to him no matter how terribly he played or how much he failed...mcnabb wouldnt have lasted 5 years in the NFL. andy reid is the qb whisperer. Andy got AJ Feely PAID by miami, Feely WAS A BACKUP IN COLLEGE!!! Andy made him a rich man, and feely was throwing to those same horrible receivers here in philly. mcnabb wouldve been nothing without reid. id argue that akili smith wouldve played in more super bowls than mcnabb if we had drafted Smith at #2 instead of Mcchoke.
The Stafford/Goff trade is already an unbelievable win/win trade. But if the Lions reach their first super bowl with Goff as their qb then I think that trade has to go down as the all time best, mutually successful deal in any pro American sport.
What makes the Deshawn Watson trade even worse is that they sold Baker out to Carolina for pennies on the dollar, Baker didn't do well there and got cut, went to play as a backup for the LA Rams and saved his career, then came here to Tampa Bay where he has finally gotten to show what he is capable of when a team, management, and fans believe in him. The Browns had their QB TWICE, once with Mayfield and the other with Joe Flacco who could have made a solid interim QB. Now they have Watson and Winston, and while Winston has a cannon for an arm, his decision making under pressure leaves a lot to be desired, ask any Bucs fan, we have been there before with him. We got a steal of a deal with Baker, even now with his 3 year contract its a steal.
It's crazy how 8 minutes into this video the biggest thing that pops off to me is how the New England Patriots could have had Clay Matthews instead of trading with Green Bay
The LA/Detroit trade should be studied by execs, coaches, and scouts for a generation to come. No small part of why Detroit fared so well was their scouting department who has been elite at finding quality players in the draft, the picks panned out in no small part because of them. If anything Goff was a bonus to the trade, the fact he worked out was both a pleasant surprise and also something still in the range of expected outcomes given his pedigree thus far, he just needed a solid environment and he found that on a team eager to prove themselves. LA's success was immediate and relatively self-evident. I won't say Detroit *won* the trade, but the fact the trade worked to their benefit as much as it did was the result of a lot of savvy.
As a Rams and Goff fan, I'm so happy for his success. I never got the hate he got when playing for the Rams. I love watching the Lions play. I hope they go far
Timestamps: 1:41 - Drew Bledsoe to Buffalo Bills 3:13 - Daunte Culpepper to Miami Dolphins 6:22 - Brett Favre to New York Jets 8:30 - Jay Cutler to Chicago Bears (Honorable Mention: Matt Cassel to Kansas City Chiefs) 11:20 - Donovan McNabb to Washington Redskins 14:06 - Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders 16:52 - Alex Smith to Kansas City Chiefs 19:00 - Sam Bradford to Vikings 21:36 - Jimmy Garoppolo to 49ers 24:15 - Matt Stafford to LA Rams 26:26 - Carson Wentz to Indianapolis Colts and Washington Commanders 28:37 - Russell Wilson to Denver Broncos 30:06 - Deshawn Watson to Cleveland Browns 33:27 - Matt Ryan to Indianapolis Colts 34:25 - Aaron Rodgers to New York Jets
The trade that sent Wentz to Indy was a conditional pick that became a 1st round pick. And they used that pick to eventually trade for AJ Brown. The Eagles ended up fleeting 2 NFC South franchises
The Groper Cleveland trade was probably the worst they traded away there future talent there franchise QB and gave away all there cap space for a guy who can't even throw for more than 300 yards in a game or win a game for that matter. It showed how bad of an owner Jimmy Haslam is and that the future of the Browns is gonna be back to sucking for probably the next 10 years. The worst trade of all time was the Herschel Walker trade thanks Vikings due to your incompetence. we got to listen to every Cowboys fan talk about how great the 90s were and "how bout them Cowboys". Yet still, after that dumb trade, people still do stupid trades cause there are a lot of stupid owners and gm's, I guess. Edit: I see alot of people saying the Groper Cleveland trade was the worst, but as a Cleveland fan, almost all of our trades or signing whatever have sucked. Like Bobby Mitchell to the Skins infavorer for Ernie Davis who didn't play cause of Cancer rip. Oh, and after that, we didn't resign Jim Brown. We also got rid of Ernst Byner only to watch carve the league up and win a ring, releasing Alex Mack, trading TJ Ward, whiffing on almost all of our 2010-2020 draft picks, drafting Tim Coach who wasn't mobile at all compared to McNabb, passing on Brady, trading down in the 2011 draft. Trading away hall of famer Paul Warfield for a 1st round draft pick that we wasted, along with trying to overpay for A.J. McCarron. Signing Andre Rison to a stupid amount of money, releasing Bernie Kosar, trading for Corey Williams, Signing Jeff Garcia, Signing Kenny Britt, and basically almost all free agents have sucked for the Browns or had little impact. And much, much more. Ever since Paul Brown was fired, we have been in a dying state.
I think the Watson trade is the worst, because the Browns are going to be stuck either with him, or the dead cap caused by him, at least in the Hershel Walker trade, there was no salary cap implemented at the time, so it was easier to get rid of him.
The browns have fared worse by far than the vikings did. Threw away a franchise qb in baker, turned the texans from a dumpster fire to contender overnight, and are absolutely fucked on the salary cap for the next 2 years. The vikings missed the playoffs 2 years, had 1 losing season, and then made the playoffs nearly every year for a decade
It’s still funny seeing Aaron Rodgers following in Brett Favre’s footsteps with the move to NYJ, if he goes to Minnesota after NYJ, it’ll be the funniest thing ever.
Feel bad for Alex Smith.... Was really a great QB but was always viewed as less even when his numbers and pro bowls said otherwise.... Was on a solid team TWICE and doing well both times.... There was nobody on any network even discussing benching him.... Really playing great ball... And a young QB comes in and has a hot performance when he is out.... Ends up in Washington.... Breaks his leg and goes on a 2 yr journey with like 50 surgeries on it and infection and muscle removal...... Makes a comeback and plays in front of his children once more before retiring.... 😢
Thanks for the UFL 2009-2012 mention! That league meant a lot to me during some rough years. I’ve always rooted for the underdogs. Anyway, great video!
Eh idk if you can say they were all duds at 11:11 There was like 3 trades involved with that 2010 First Rounder but they eventually ended up with Demaryius Thomas
I guess the general rule of thumb here is don’t trade for a Philly QB. McNabb was cooked, and the Eagles got Nate Allen (above average safety who only left due to a better deal from Oakland) and Nick Foles (his 27-2 season was pretty special + his later Super Bowl) Bradford turned into Derek Barnett who recovered the Brady fumble in the Superbowl and Sweat who is an above average DE. Wentz turned into a pair of pro-bowl WRs in AJ Brown and Smith, a potential All Pro DT in Jalen Carter and potentially another starter in Cooper DeJean.
wentz being with reid will resucitate his career. sitting on the bench is helping him. sometimes serious knee injuries take years to get right. if mahomes is ever hurt, watch wentz win them a supe. wentz was special when he was healthy
Sean Peyton doesn't get the criticism he deserves for the Russel Wilson situation. Coaches are supposed to put their players in a position to succeed. Not take a QB who built a HOF career on scrambling and improvising, then stuff him into a precise timing, pocket passing system. Not to mention the scapegoating that went on.
As a niners fan I always look back at Alex Smith I can’t help but smile His career was so dramatic and yet his prime was underrated and his leadership and ability to adapt is unmatched
I never really got it either. I kept hearing about his potential in Denver but never really felt like I saw it in action and him comparing himself to John Elway when he hadn't won anything with them didn't help my opinion of him either. I always remember how South Park made fun of him back in the day. "you suck right now, but my dad says you could be good some day"
He had over 4,500 yards his last year in Denver, but the number of interceptions should have been a red flag. That and the fact that Denver was willing to trade him after only his third season. I have to admit that I liked the trade at the time, but yeah, we got fleeced big time.
If I remember right, Washington didn’t have a #1 WR when McNabb got there. They had Santana Moss who was a slot WR playing #1 and Chris Cooley at TE who retired not long after… Shanahan needed someone to blame for losing all those close games that year so they threw McNabb under the bus. After all he did for the Eagles when he was young and in his prime, McNabb deserved 1 more year in Philly with Jeremy Maclin, D Jack, Brent Celek and Shady.
Nah, a dynasty was with born in Dallas with that trade. It hasn’t surpassed, not yet at least. If the Texans go on to win a couple chips, then we’ll talk. It would cool to see it happen to another team from Texas.
The thing in the Herschel trade is that it was so lopsided that one team became significantly worse and the other became a dynasty. Until these Texans become a dynasty, or even a serious contender for a decade with Anderson and Stroud as future HoF it won't be worse. But hey, 2nd worse is something.
The pre-2000 one for me is John Hadl to the Packers. We gave up way too much for an aging qb and it probably hurt his chances to get into the Hall Of Fame! Thanks for another great video!
I know this is supposed to be pre-2000, but there’s one trade in 1998 that is worth mentioning. The Chargers moved up from 3 to 2 to take Ryan Leaf. It cost them Their first and second in 1998, their first in 1999, and Pro Bowl return man Eric Metcalf. The 1998 first was a bust (Andre Wadsworth). But, the 2nd rounder became Pro Bowl CB Corey Chavous and the 1999 first was Pro Bowl WR David Boston. For Ryan Leaf…..
McNabb carried the eagles on his back, and they traded him like it was his fault. 14 season with Andy Reid, and they couldn't win. Now, his is one of the best coaches in the NFL. 🤷🏿♂️
I’ll have to correct you on the Bradford season in 2016. The reason it wasn’t successful is because Adrian Peterson got injured and then our offensive line got destroyed. We were trotting out backups to backups at every position on the line. It got so bad we had to ask Jake Long whose knees were completely shot to come out of retirement to try and buy Bradford more than a second to throw the ball. The reason he led in completion percentage that year was because the offensive coordinator had to call quick pass plays because he couldn’t call long developing plays because Bradford would immediately get killed.
As a giants fan, it’s crazy to me how people forget the Giants were bad 5 years before DJ even got here. Sure the guy isn’t good but we haven’t had a good o line in a decade or even a decent receiving core since the odell days
IIRC it would have forced the Jets to give GB three 1st-round picks if the Jets traded Favre to MN. Releasing him after he “retired” was the best option.
As a broncos fan it’s worth noting that the longtime ownership under the beloved Pat Bowlen had ended, and with his children among others squabbling over the team it went up for sale - with the Wilson trade (they also pursued Rodgers) being a big part of increasing the sale value with the story being sold that this was a buy and win a Super Bowl quickly kind of team if they had an all pro QB
I knew Mcnabb was a dummy from his wonderlic score but I was shocked when I saw him away from Andy Reid, it was like he forgot (or rather never knew) how to play QB. I understood why he wasnt afraid to trade him to Washington. Props to Andy Reid btw for getting the most of out his QBs. Mcnabb, Alex Smith, Michael Vick, Favre, and Mahommes. We’ve seen what happens when he gets a hold of great ones but we also saw how he was able to elevate the ones that weren’t quite there.
ding ding ding ding!!!! you are the winner!!!! btw...mcnabb never knew how to play qb. without reud he wouldve been a collossal bust. we shouldve drafted akili smith
McNabb didn’t just lose a super bowl with the eagles. He partied the week leading up to the big game and was throwing up from dehydration during the second half. Spygate didn’t do shit. If he took that as seriously as he should have eagles would have pulled it out, but he didn’t. What a fraud. Thank God Nick Foles made up for it over a decade later.
Please cover the Carson Wentz trade tree. It’s absolutely nuts what the Eagles ultimately turned Carson Wentz into AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Jalen Carter, and Cooper DeJean. I mean there’s a lot of Howie Roseman maneuvering in between, but I highly recommend covering it in more depth.
Lions moved on because Stafford wanted out. Which was totally understandable from his point of view and honestly, it made sense for the Lions as well. I wasn't all that shocked when they announced he asked to be traded. It worked for both teams. Rams got their Super Bowl and the Lions are one of the best teams in the league now and definitely used those picks to help stack their team.
Suggestions can you the NFC East: The Musical Chairs of a Division as in every team won the division from 2005 to 2023 without any repeated winner since the early 2000s Eagles ( 2001 to 2004)
Chiefs fan here I got nothing but love and respect for Alex Smith. That guy has been through so much and gave his heart and soul to Kansas City. We can’t thank him enough.
If Alex Smith was the 10th overall pick and not the first, he wouldn’t be looked upon nearly as negatively. All in all, he had an above average career.
Lions and Rams are a definition of a win-win trade. We got a SB and Stafford has been a plus to our offense even with the injuries and up and down play of the team as a whole. Lions seem set for a bright present and future with Goff finding a home that could lead them to the same prize. Quite happy how it worked out.
You can’t base what a team did with draft picks to determine who got the better deal. If a team botches first round picks, that’s on them. You could look at who they passed up immediately in said draft.
I had to blur multiple parts of the video and cut up (and ruin) the outro for copyright reasons. So, apologies to those seeing this video after the pinning of this comment. Hope y'all understand. Cya in the next video.
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I was wondering why it was blurred out.
Figured. The outro is hilarious now ngl.
The end jump scared me.
ALL GOOD GET YOUR MONEY UP!!!
The Browns had finally stopped being the Browns for a few years. Then the Deshaun trade brought them right back
All they had to do was stick it out with Baker
The Browns, will always find a way to be the Browns….
This isn’t you average normal brownsness… this is advanced brownsness
@@aaronsams8605baker wouldn’t be what he is if they did
Most browns fans wanted to keep baker
All fairness, Bledsoe was extremely gracious when Tom took over, and mentored him as a backup for that year
I always thought Bledsoe held resentment and was angry when Brady took over
And let's not forget his performance in relief of injured Brady in the 2001 AFC Championship. They might not have made the superbowl without Bledsoe. Maybe not the way he expected to earn a championship ring, but he still played an important part that year.
@@TexasNationalist1836 wasn’t happy about losing his starting position while being the 100 million dollar arm, but he handled it with class. And like the other comment said, he really did finish that afc championship game.
@@johnchedsey1306 absolutely.
This is going to sound stupid but it wasn’t until 2004 that I really believed in Brady. The Patriot missile was my favorite player, I still have his jersey and signature on my wall next to Brady’s.
@@TexasNationalist1836 There's some conflicted feelings in general. Bledsoe isnt super happy that his legacy is tied to being the guy before Brady, and naturally as a competitor and starter he has his pride which probably inspired at least a touch of jealousy.
But he handled it like a professional by and large.
I still find it funny the Dolphins balked on Brees because of his injury but saw no issue going for Daunte Culpepper while he was still rehabbing a shredded knee.
Eh when Brees was going through it it was his throwing shoulder I believe. Knee injuries are no joke but you can recover. Throwing arm injury you might never be the same (spoiler, he was even better lol)
@@Radel623 Dude had messed up three ligaments in his knee so even by the standards of knee injuries that was a bad one, especially for a QB whose mobility was supposed to be one of his best assets.
Helps when you're throwing to Moss and Carter
From time to time I think about this trade. I wonder what could’ve been had DB went to Miami? The Saints were god awful when he got there.
@@MrMusick84 Hell Saban probably never goes to Alabama if Brees was with Miami, so this effects the CFB landscape too.
I still find the Watson trade the single worst trade for a QB ever. They gave him record money, record guaranteed money, and when he isn't injured he forgot how to play ball. Cleveland could have done so much more with those draft picks. Epic fail on their part.
it's the Browns.. they were desperate, and it honestly seemed like a good move at the time.. nobody knew yet that Deshaun was completely washed
And he was a public relations nightmare given his sexual predator behavior.
They also forced Baker Mayfield ( who lead them to their first playoff win in decades) to continue playing while he had a shoulder injury, and said he wasn’t a winner. Talk about a Browns move.
Worst thing is that before that the Browns had drafted and traded pretty well for a few years. They were cooking (well, baking).
Yea we suck for that..... there's nothing I can even make a joke about. At least we're not Carolina I guess
Deshaun has to be the worst trade regardless of positions
Hershall Walker , Buddy
@@CalCambridge Hershell at least didn't actively drag the team down by being there and have NFL fans openly rooting for the Vikings to fail.
@@CalCambridgethe video is post 2000, buddy
@@lt_johnmcclaneah give him a break.. reading isn't for everyone
@@lt_johnmcclane FUCK 🤦🏾♂️ , Your Right ..
Even if Deshaun wasn't a predator, that trade would still be the worst in NFL history. The Browns gave Patrick Mahomes money to a guy who's barely a third stringer right now.
ONG BRO please get him off my team, they know wtf they are doing. Could've kept Flacco and developed Thompson
Worst trade in NFL history is a reach. The worst has to be the Saints trading all their draft picks just to trade up to draft Ricky Williams.
@DakotaFuqua The Saints gave up entirely too much for Ricky, but he was at least a decent player for them. Deshuan has been awful from the get-go.
This is at least an example for teams in the future to put in injury clauses to these massive contracts.
@@melvinshine9841of course you call the Black Man a predator you ignore rhe browns mediocre coach and O Line and Owner
23:52 the Patriots got absolutely fleeced considering the pick they got was from 10 years in the past.
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Freddie my boy. I got some fudge in my drawers
Whoops 😂 I meant to put 2018 2nd round pick.
@@KTOfootball Maybe you should pay attention to the details and get it right. This kind of sloppy research is exactly why I'm not subscribed to you. Be better and stop spreading lies.
@@encycl07pedia- it is not that deep holy
For those who are interested. The pick Denver for Jay Cutler received turned into Robert Ayers and Richard Quinn who they traded up for in 2009. Ayers was a rotational DE for 9 seasons, Quinn was a TE who played on special teams and was out of the league in three years. The bears pick at 84 the Steelers picked WR Mike Wallace who played for 10 years and had one pro bowl. In the 2010 draft Denver conducted a series of trades Which resulted in Philadelphia getting Brandon Graham, Seattle getting Earl Thomas, Denver got Demaryius Thomas, Dallas getting Dez Bryant, and New England getting Devin McCourty.
How'd you just know that? ANyway, thankful for B. Graham as an Eagles fan!
Bless the Browns for taking heat off the Russell Wilson trade.
For real! 😂
Bless the browns for taking watson instead of Atlanta
What is wrong with you people who keep hating on Russ? Dude hasn't even played bad since he's been traded and you idiot casuals keep talking shit.
I wonder if that looked bad because of Russ or because of Hackett. Russ is starting to cook again in Pittsburgh.
@@eccehomer8182 I mean, he was still mediocre at best in the second year in Denver.
33:13 The graphic is incomplete. The Browns also gave away their dignity in the Deshaun Watson trade.
I'm an Eagles fan and I thought about going to see them play the Browns a couple weeks ago. I didn't because I hate Watson so much. He literally shouldn't be allowed to play, and I'm glad he physically can't right now
Nah man he not a predator man he made a mistake there were I criminal charges
He got hit with a money grab period leave the black man alone but this is America
@@moalston4203LOL
The picture at 23:15 is so unexpectedly funny. Jimmy G totally disheartened and lost in thoughts and the doctor(?) next to him is smiling like he’s at Sears getting family photos or something lol
Crazy how the watson trade has completely overshadowed the also historically bad wilson trade
Not complaining as a broncos fan tho lol
I think most people see it the other way.
@@tokivikerness8863 I think people forgot about how bad the Watson trade was for a minute, when Russ got traded to the Steelers with all that dead cap against Denver. Now with the recent Watson injury, everyone is back to talking about how that franchise is basically ruined for at least 4 or 5 years
@@tokivikerness8863 comments suggest otherwise
Broncos are fortunate that Sean Payton and Bo Nix so far look promising. The dead cap however will always keep them a year behind from filling out the roster.
@@envymeh_ tbh the 1/3 dead cap hit makes this rebuild year more impressive, hopefully they make some smart moves next off-season
You and Flemlo are by far my favorite football channels. You do an amazing job of keeping me interested and I always watch the whole video!! Thank you for your guys hard work
Five Points Vids is great too
@mrterp04 most definitely
I still miss the show they had togeether
I love the graphics you used in the video. They reminded me a lot of late 2000s early 2010s Madden and NFL Network.
The Alex Smith trade had a lot of positive impact for the Chiefs. He helped stable the franchise and mentor the next franchise QB that eventually turned into the dynasty. It worked out great for Smith but even better for the Chiefs
Mahomes credited Smith for learning and perfecting his craft
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Just a mistake I noticed. You showed that the 49ers got a 2006 2nd round pick for Alex Smith when the trade actually happened in 2013.
And Jimmy G trade
There’s a few of them throughout, not a huge deal but still a little annoying going ‘wait what years?’
Thanks for letting me know. Things slip past my eyes after so many hours of editing 😅
@@KTOfootballaye dont sweat it kto ur videos still are some of the best on youtube
@@KTOfootballstill the goat, amazing content man
The Watson trade is definitely the worst. The Browns were on the way up and now they are right back to being a tire fire
It’s such a trip seeing how grainy those Favre clips are. I remember watching those games as a kid and now they just seem like ancient history. Makes you feel old…
You should never trade high picks for a QB when you dont have the right Coaching Staff and surroundings to help him out. Thats why Only Stafford and Goff worked.
The thing is they usually think making these trades are a good idea in the first place because they think they already have that foundation. One QB away and all that jazz. Hell when Goff went to Detroit we thought that was where his career was going to die.
49ers had everything in place. Lance just got hurt and didn’t have time to develop
@bigbearkat2010 True
@@xdlmao42 That and they gave up on him
@@SuperMurray2009 the sample size for both Lance and Purdy indicated that Purdy was inarguably better than Lance at that point. Not really much point in keeping Lance after that.
The Lions didn’t want to move on from Stafford, coach Campbell & Holmes met with him and gave him the choice and he chose to leave. He was close to being a Niner too
Moral of the story: If the Eagles are offering up a QB, just say no. I know the video didn't cover Kevin Kolb or AJ Whathisname, but they always seemed to be on the good end of QB trades
AJ Feeley lmao 😅
Eagles or Packers 😂
You're not kidding, Wentz flamed out in Indianapolis, and Folles in Chicago both organizations still struggling at the position
I can only imagine what McNabb could have done with decent receivers. Throwing to guys like Pinkston, Thrash and FredEx really hampered his career. Outside of one season of TO McNabb had next to no help.
Not to disrespect to Brian Westbrook, but if your team's best receiver is a runningback you seriously need to fix your offense.
oh please....brady had moss but after him he had a bunch of nobodys and cast offs. mcnabb was traded to washington and couldnt even win the backup job.
@@graysonmichael8335 Wes Welker sure is noone
Edelman never made a pro bowl so despite his SB mvp is still noone
Gronk is just the best TE ever, but he doesn't rly count because hes not a reciever
Yeah good point, Brady had no good recievers ever...
@@graysonmichael8335 Deion Branch was better than any receiver McNabb had other than TO.
@zaneseibert thats debateable. maclin was an excellent receiver...djax was ok. but i agree branch was a very very good receiver.
can you explain how we traded mcnabb, our starter...to the redskins and not only could he not win the starter job, but he couldnt win the backup job either. he was the THIRD STRING qb. from our starter one year, to the redskins emergency qb the next.
if andy reid didnt draft mcnabb, and commit to him no matter how terribly he played or how much he failed...mcnabb wouldnt have lasted 5 years in the NFL. andy reid is the qb whisperer. Andy got AJ Feely PAID by miami, Feely WAS A BACKUP IN COLLEGE!!! Andy made him a rich man, and feely was throwing to those same horrible receivers here in philly.
mcnabb wouldve been nothing without reid. id argue that akili smith wouldve played in more super bowls than mcnabb if we had drafted Smith at #2 instead of Mcchoke.
26:16 some of the best drafting from a trade ever
The Stafford/Goff trade is already an unbelievable win/win trade. But if the Lions reach their first super bowl with Goff as their qb then I think that trade has to go down as the all time best, mutually successful deal in any pro American sport.
What makes the Deshawn Watson trade even worse is that they sold Baker out to Carolina for pennies on the dollar, Baker didn't do well there and got cut, went to play as a backup for the LA Rams and saved his career, then came here to Tampa Bay where he has finally gotten to show what he is capable of when a team, management, and fans believe in him.
The Browns had their QB TWICE, once with Mayfield and the other with Joe Flacco who could have made a solid interim QB. Now they have Watson and Winston, and while Winston has a cannon for an arm, his decision making under pressure leaves a lot to be desired, ask any Bucs fan, we have been there before with him.
We got a steal of a deal with Baker, even now with his 3 year contract its a steal.
AMONGUS!!!🤯0:52
My brain is cooked
Skibidi
😐 im laughing my ass off rn
It's crazy how 8 minutes into this video the biggest thing that pops off to me is how the New England Patriots could have had Clay Matthews instead of trading with Green Bay
The LA/Detroit trade should be studied by execs, coaches, and scouts for a generation to come.
No small part of why Detroit fared so well was their scouting department who has been elite at finding quality players in the draft, the picks panned out in no small part because of them. If anything Goff was a bonus to the trade, the fact he worked out was both a pleasant surprise and also something still in the range of expected outcomes given his pedigree thus far, he just needed a solid environment and he found that on a team eager to prove themselves.
LA's success was immediate and relatively self-evident. I won't say Detroit *won* the trade, but the fact the trade worked to their benefit as much as it did was the result of a lot of savvy.
As a Rams and Goff fan, I'm so happy for his success. I never got the hate he got when playing for the Rams. I love watching the Lions play. I hope they go far
A rare trade where honestly both teams are happy with the results
Timestamps:
1:41 - Drew Bledsoe to Buffalo Bills
3:13 - Daunte Culpepper to Miami Dolphins
6:22 - Brett Favre to New York Jets
8:30 - Jay Cutler to Chicago Bears (Honorable Mention: Matt Cassel to Kansas City Chiefs)
11:20 - Donovan McNabb to Washington Redskins
14:06 - Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders
16:52 - Alex Smith to Kansas City Chiefs
19:00 - Sam Bradford to Vikings
21:36 - Jimmy Garoppolo to 49ers
24:15 - Matt Stafford to LA Rams
26:26 - Carson Wentz to Indianapolis Colts and Washington Commanders
28:37 - Russell Wilson to Denver Broncos
30:06 - Deshawn Watson to Cleveland Browns
33:27 - Matt Ryan to Indianapolis Colts
34:25 - Aaron Rodgers to New York Jets
Your videos always remind me why I was such a massive football fan. You breathe of the spirit of real football, it’s in the smell.
As a Giants fan when I saw the "NY" logo I thought of Eli vs Danny Derps as well.
0:52 WHILE FOOTBALL IS STILL WHAT?!
Among us
@ AMOGUS
Say that again
@@adamrose6969 ….is still among us…
The trade that sent Wentz to Indy was a conditional pick that became a 1st round pick. And they used that pick to eventually trade for AJ Brown. The Eagles ended up fleeting 2 NFC South franchises
The Groper Cleveland trade was probably the worst they traded away there future talent there franchise QB and gave away all there cap space for a guy who can't even throw for more than 300 yards in a game or win a game for that matter. It showed how bad of an owner Jimmy Haslam is and that the future of the Browns is gonna be back to sucking for probably the next 10 years. The worst trade of all time was the Herschel Walker trade thanks Vikings due to your incompetence. we got to listen to every Cowboys fan talk about how great the 90s were and "how bout them Cowboys". Yet still, after that dumb trade, people still do stupid trades cause there are a lot of stupid owners and gm's, I guess.
Edit: I see alot of people saying the Groper Cleveland trade was the worst, but as a Cleveland fan, almost all of our trades or signing whatever have sucked. Like Bobby Mitchell to the Skins infavorer for Ernie Davis who didn't play cause of Cancer rip. Oh, and after that, we didn't resign Jim Brown. We also got rid of Ernst Byner only to watch carve the league up and win a ring, releasing Alex Mack, trading TJ Ward, whiffing on almost all of our 2010-2020 draft picks, drafting Tim Coach who wasn't mobile at all compared to McNabb, passing on Brady, trading down in the 2011 draft. Trading away hall of famer Paul Warfield for a 1st round draft pick that we wasted, along with trying to overpay for A.J. McCarron. Signing Andre Rison to a stupid amount of money, releasing Bernie Kosar, trading for Corey Williams, Signing Jeff Garcia, Signing Kenny Britt, and basically almost all free agents have sucked for the Browns or had little impact. And much, much more. Ever since Paul Brown was fired, we have been in a dying state.
I think the Watson trade is the worst, because the Browns are going to be stuck either with him, or the dead cap caused by him, at least in the Hershel Walker trade, there was no salary cap implemented at the time, so it was easier to get rid of him.
The browns have fared worse by far than the vikings did. Threw away a franchise qb in baker, turned the texans from a dumpster fire to contender overnight, and are absolutely fucked on the salary cap for the next 2 years.
The vikings missed the playoffs 2 years, had 1 losing season, and then made the playoffs nearly every year for a decade
15:55 the browns saw this and thought “yeah let’s hire Hue”
It’s still funny seeing Aaron Rodgers following in Brett Favre’s footsteps with the move to NYJ, if he goes to Minnesota after NYJ, it’ll be the funniest thing ever.
It's like Rogers can't get Favre out of his head.
Carson palmers demands weren't more money, they were what any ceo would do to turn a company around. The owner just said no. Wow lol.
The Watson trade might actually be worse than the Hershel Walker trade. That's impressive.
Brees and Brady in the same division would have been so awesome
*prime Brees & Brady
Feel bad for Alex Smith.... Was really a great QB but was always viewed as less even when his numbers and pro bowls said otherwise.... Was on a solid team TWICE and doing well both times.... There was nobody on any network even discussing benching him.... Really playing great ball... And a young QB comes in and has a hot performance when he is out.... Ends up in Washington.... Breaks his leg and goes on a 2 yr journey with like 50 surgeries on it and infection and muscle removal......
Makes a comeback and plays in front of his children once more before retiring.... 😢
Thanks for the UFL 2009-2012 mention! That league meant a lot to me during some rough years. I’ve always rooted for the underdogs. Anyway, great video!
Eh idk if you can say they were all duds at 11:11
There was like 3 trades involved with that 2010 First Rounder but they eventually ended up with Demaryius Thomas
I guess the general rule of thumb here is don’t trade for a Philly QB.
McNabb was cooked, and the Eagles got Nate Allen (above average safety who only left due to a better deal from Oakland) and Nick Foles (his 27-2 season was pretty special + his later Super Bowl)
Bradford turned into Derek Barnett who recovered the Brady fumble in the Superbowl and Sweat who is an above average DE.
Wentz turned into a pair of pro-bowl WRs in AJ Brown and Smith, a potential All Pro DT in Jalen Carter and potentially another starter in Cooper DeJean.
wentz being with reid will resucitate his career. sitting on the bench is helping him. sometimes serious knee injuries take years to get right. if mahomes is ever hurt, watch wentz win them a supe. wentz was special when he was healthy
Sean Peyton doesn't get the criticism he deserves for the Russel Wilson situation.
Coaches are supposed to put their players in a position to succeed. Not take a QB who built a HOF career on scrambling and improvising, then stuff him into a precise timing, pocket passing system. Not to mention the scapegoating that went on.
As a niners fan I always look back at Alex Smith I can’t help but smile
His career was so dramatic and yet his prime was underrated and his leadership and ability to adapt is unmatched
That Watson trade is the worst trade of all time. The contract is even worse.
9:14 we gave up THAT much for Jay freakin cutler?
I never really got it either. I kept hearing about his potential in Denver but never really felt like I saw it in action and him comparing himself to John Elway when he hadn't won anything with them didn't help my opinion of him either. I always remember how South Park made fun of him back in the day. "you suck right now, but my dad says you could be good some day"
Damn
Denver though didn’t exactly turn their draft picks into a bargain
I didn’t start watching the bears till 2010 so I didn’t realize what we gave up for him
He had over 4,500 yards his last year in Denver, but the number of interceptions should have been a red flag. That and the fact that Denver was willing to trade him after only his third season. I have to admit that I liked the trade at the time, but yeah, we got fleeced big time.
We should’ve known about McNabb in Washington. If you can’t look competent at QB with the Shanahans then it’s time to hang it up.
If I remember right, Washington didn’t have a #1 WR when McNabb got there. They had Santana Moss who was a slot WR playing #1 and Chris Cooley at TE who retired not long after… Shanahan needed someone to blame for losing all those close games that year so they threw McNabb under the bus.
After all he did for the Eagles when he was young and in his prime, McNabb deserved 1 more year in Philly with Jeremy Maclin, D Jack, Brent Celek and Shady.
@@BIGZphillybirdfanSantana was absolutely a WR1
You always bring the quality content, been a fan for years. Love to see it!
Going to see your Browns play Thursday night against my Steelers! Thanks for your content bro man
Imo, one if your best videos ever. One of my faves along with the Hue Jackson vid.
32:43 I think it’s safe to say that the Deshaun Watson trade has eclipsed the Herschel Walker trade as the worst of all time!
Nah, a dynasty was with born in Dallas with that trade. It hasn’t surpassed, not yet at least.
If the Texans go on to win a couple chips, then we’ll talk. It would cool to see it happen to another team from Texas.
The thing in the Herschel trade is that it was so lopsided that one team became significantly worse and the other became a dynasty. Until these Texans become a dynasty, or even a serious contender for a decade with Anderson and Stroud as future HoF it won't be worse. But hey, 2nd worse is something.
The pre-2000 one for me is John Hadl to the Packers. We gave up way too much for an aging qb and it probably hurt his chances to get into the Hall Of Fame! Thanks for another great video!
BLESSED DAY!!
As a browns fan it’s Deshaun without a doubt
I know this is supposed to be pre-2000, but there’s one trade in 1998 that is worth mentioning. The Chargers moved up from 3 to 2 to take Ryan Leaf. It cost them Their first and second in 1998, their first in 1999, and Pro Bowl return man Eric Metcalf. The 1998 first was a bust (Andre Wadsworth). But, the 2nd rounder became Pro Bowl CB Corey Chavous and the 1999 first was Pro Bowl WR David Boston.
For Ryan Leaf…..
Woo was waiting for the next upload 😎👍
The Goat has uploaded 💯💯
Calling Jay Cutler Mediocre is crazy disrespectful, thats the greatest bears QB of all time.
1 Cutler
2 McMahon
3 Grossman
4 Douglass
5 Fields/ Trubisky
If Justin fields and Money Mitch are in the top 5 then I’m pretty sure the 4 in front of them are mediocre
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Love ur vids KTO, keep up the good work. God bless.
Perfect Thursday night prewatch to a shootout between 2 of the best QBs rn🔥🔥
Love your video KTO and keep up the great work you are awesome
McNabb carried the eagles on his back, and they traded him like it was his fault.
14 season with Andy Reid, and they couldn't win. Now, his is one of the best coaches in the NFL. 🤷🏿♂️
This video was amazing!
desharvey watstein will never play again
Rams lions was a great organization trade everybody won
It’s funny how Favre went to the jets after leaving from the packers, then arod
Hopefully we'll see Rodgers in Minnesota next year to complete things.
@ lol he won’t, they’ll have McCarthy back and Sam as backup buy it would be cool
@Landon.25 😂😂😂
You ain't lying! They saw Rodgers go to the Jets and said, "Oh hell no! We are NOT repeating that history! Get a QB now!"
Watch the trifecta happen with Jordan Love going to the Jets after his stint in GB 😂
I’ll have to correct you on the Bradford season in 2016. The reason it wasn’t successful is because Adrian Peterson got injured and then our offensive line got destroyed. We were trotting out backups to backups at every position on the line. It got so bad we had to ask Jake Long whose knees were completely shot to come out of retirement to try and buy Bradford more than a second to throw the ball. The reason he led in completion percentage that year was because the offensive coordinator had to call quick pass plays because he couldn’t call long developing plays because Bradford would immediately get killed.
Should we consider the Watson trade being worse than Ricky Williams' and Hershel Walker's?
Yes.
Imo Ricky's yes, but Herschel's not yet
you missed 2018 Alex Smith to Washington and 2022 Carson Wentz to Washington, both disasters!
Neither of those were really “blockbuster” I’d say. But it’s only a matter of opinion.
Alex Smith didn't do too bad in DC - still beloved in some ways
@@SeaPython1972 They had Matt Ryan to Colts, that definitely wasn't blockbuster.
did you even watch the video ? 2018 Alex Smith is at 17:01
2022 Carson Wentz is at 26:35
@@HonchoHarley that's Smith to KC and Wentz to Colts. smh! did you even watch the video?
Watson will go down as the worst trade/deal in the history of sports
Funny how these allegers are people you wouldn't sleep with in the first place.....just going after that money grab
As a giants fan, it’s crazy to me how people forget the Giants were bad 5 years before DJ even got here. Sure the guy isn’t good but we haven’t had a good o line in a decade or even a decent receiving core since the odell days
Broncos: "I can't believe we made the worst trade ever. Well almost... Thank God you're here so nobody talks about us"
Browns: "..."
There was also some clause in the Favre deal where he couldn't be traded to the Vikings
IIRC it would have forced the Jets to give GB three 1st-round picks if the Jets traded Favre to MN. Releasing him after he “retired” was the best option.
SAC STATE MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥 stingers up
I think it is funny that Daniel Jones looks like the guy who would play Eli Manning in a movie.
Bro that’s a perfect description lol
Isn’t Aaron Rodger’s situation the exact same as Brett Favre’s? Leaving from the Packers to the Jets around 40 years old.
Only difference I guess is that Rodgers wanted to only go to the Jets and Favre didn’t really care, he just wanted off the Packers.
If Favre never tore his bicep and rotator cuff, I fully believe the Jets make the AFC Championship game that year
As a broncos fan it’s worth noting that the longtime ownership under the beloved Pat Bowlen had ended, and with his children among others squabbling over the team it went up for sale - with the Wilson trade (they also pursued Rodgers) being a big part of increasing the sale value with the story being sold that this was a buy and win a Super Bowl quickly kind of team if they had an all pro QB
Bills getting Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Sheppard was a steal
I knew Mcnabb was a dummy from his wonderlic score but I was shocked when I saw him away from Andy Reid, it was like he forgot (or rather never knew) how to play QB. I understood why he wasnt afraid to trade him to Washington. Props to Andy Reid btw for getting the most of out his QBs. Mcnabb, Alex Smith, Michael Vick, Favre, and Mahommes. We’ve seen what happens when he gets a hold of great ones but we also saw how he was able to elevate the ones that weren’t quite there.
ding ding ding ding!!!! you are the winner!!!! btw...mcnabb never knew how to play qb. without reud he wouldve been a collossal bust. we shouldve drafted akili smith
reid elevated aj feely (an many others)....miami traded for feely and paid him starters money. feely was a backup in college lol
Packers getting Mathew’s and raji by giving up farve is amazing for that organization
Especially given Matthew’s game-changing forced fumble in SB 45.
Ending the video with a Jordan Love highlight is *chefs kiss*
McNabb didn’t just lose a super bowl with the eagles. He partied the week leading up to the big game and was throwing up from dehydration during the second half. Spygate didn’t do shit. If he took that as seriously as he should have eagles would have pulled it out, but he didn’t. What a fraud. Thank God Nick Foles made up for it over a decade later.
I had no idea this was a new video 🤣 ive been watching it for at least 20 minutes now
Please cover the Carson Wentz trade tree. It’s absolutely nuts what the Eagles ultimately turned Carson Wentz into AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Jalen Carter, and Cooper DeJean. I mean there’s a lot of Howie Roseman maneuvering in between, but I highly recommend covering it in more depth.
So he handled that trade well
Lions moved on because Stafford wanted out. Which was totally understandable from his point of view and honestly, it made sense for the Lions as well. I wasn't all that shocked when they announced he asked to be traded. It worked for both teams. Rams got their Super Bowl and the Lions are one of the best teams in the league now and definitely used those picks to help stack their team.
Suggestions can you the NFC East: The Musical Chairs of a Division as in every team won the division from 2005 to 2023 without any repeated winner since the early 2000s Eagles ( 2001 to 2004)
Wow, no Jordan Love highlight I guess
The Deshaun Watson trade will go down in history as one of the worst decisions made by *ANY* NFL team.
137 million was the biggest contract in nfl history?!? Crazy how much things have changed
Chiefs fan here I got nothing but love and respect for Alex Smith. That guy has been through so much and gave his heart and soul to Kansas City. We can’t thank him enough.
If Alex Smith was the 10th overall pick and not the first, he wouldn’t be looked upon nearly as negatively. All in all, he had an above average career.
When u here this voice u no it’s boutta be a banger
0:52 football… is what? everywhere I go… IT… haunts me…
Lions and Rams are a definition of a win-win trade. We got a SB and Stafford has been a plus to our offense even with the injuries and up and down play of the team as a whole. Lions seem set for a bright present and future with Goff finding a home that could lead them to the same prize.
Quite happy how it worked out.
You can’t base what a team did with draft picks to determine who got the better deal. If a team botches first round picks, that’s on them. You could look at who they passed up immediately in said draft.
The Stafford Goff trade is the best trade of all time, both fitting their new teams and coaches better and bringing success.
27:13 I still cant believe that was a real play
11:35 HOLLON MAN WHATS THAT GLORIOUS BEAT PLAYING 😭🔥